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The Watchman: Sunni and Shia Jihadists Battle

On this week's edition of The Watchman, we sit down with leading Middle East analyst Elliot Chodoff to discuss the ongoing battle between Sunni and Shia jihadists in the region and what it means for America and Israel. We're also joined by ... Read Transcript


Erick: AND WELCOME TO

"THE WATCHMAN."

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

FINALLY DONE IT.

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION,

ALONG WITH OTHER WORLD

POWERS, HAS STRUCK A

DISASTEROUS NUCLEAR DEAL

WITH IRAN.

AND IT COULDN'T COME AT A

WORSE TIME.

THE IRANIAN REGIME AND ITS

PROXIES ARE ON THE MARCH

ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST AND

GAINING STRENGTH EVERY

DAY.

AT THE SAME TIME, ISIS IS

SEEKING TO EXPAND ITS

BLOODY CALIPHATE ACROSS

THE REGION, AND THESE TWO

JIHADIST POWER HOUSES ARE

FIGHTING EACH OTHER.

SO WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING

ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST

RIGHT NOW?

AND WHO HAS THE UPPER

HAND.

JOINING US TODAY TO MAKE

SENSE OF IT ALL IS ONE OF

THE WORLD'S LEADING MIDDLE

EAST ANALYSTS.

ELLIOT CHODOFF IS FOUNDER

OF MIDEAST ON TARGET, AND

A MAJOR IN THE ISRAEL

DEFENSE FORCES RESERVE.

ELLIOT, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

Eric: GOOD TO SEE YOU

ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND.

YOU'RE BASED IN ISRAEL.

YES.

Erick: AND YOU'RE A

COMBAT VETERAN, SO YOU

KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT.

A LITTLE BIT.

Erick: LET'S START

WITH IRAN.

WE WANT TO GET INTO THE

IDEOLOGY.

ELLIOT, IT IS IN THE NEWS,

OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A HOT

TOPIC, THIS IRAN NUCLEAR

DEAL.

TELL US HOW IT EMPOWERS

THE IRANIAN REGIME?

IT EMPOWERS THEM A

NUMBER OF WAYS: FIRST OF

ALL, GOING NUCLEAR OR

BEING CAPABLE OF GOING

NUCLEAR GIVES THEM POWER

OPPORTUNITIES THEY

WOULDN'T HAVE HAD BEFORE.

BUT I THINK THAT LONG

BEFORE THAT, WE SAW THE

REJOICING IN IRAN.

THEIR FOREIGN MINISTERS

ARE LAUGHING.

Erick: LAUGHING.

THE ICONIC PHOTOGRAPH OF

THEM LAUGHING.

FOR THEM IT IS A

VICTORY.

IT STARTS BY EMPOWERING

THEM TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

AND ALL OF THIS TALK OF

REGIME CHANGE NOW TAKES A

STEP BACK.

IT WAS NEVER IMPOSSIBLE,

BUT A STEP BACK AWAY FROM

THAT.

HERE EVERYBODY LOVES A

WINNER.

AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO WERE,

SAY, MARGINALLY OPPOSED MY

SHIFT.

IT IS ALL SHIFTING HERE IN

THAT SENSE.

Erick: IN THEIR

FAVOR.

IN THEIR FAVOR,

OBVIOUSLY.

WE USE THE 1930s

PARALLELS VERY OFTEN.

I THINK THERE IS MUCH TO

BE LEARNED FROM THEM

WITHOUT SAYING, OKAY,

WE'RE IN THE 1930s --

NO, WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE IN 2015.

BUT THERE ARE PATTERNS WE

CAN LOOK AT.

THE FACT THAT HITLER WAS

ELECTED.

HE WAS ELECTED BY A

MINORITY, BUT A LARGE

MINORITY.

AND HOW HE GAINS POWER,

HOW HE GAINS POWER WITHIN

HIS SYSTEM.

OPPOSITION BY HIS GENERAL

STAFF, BUT WHEN HE

SUCCEEDS, AND HE SUCCEEDS

IN AUSTRIA AND HE SUCCEEDS

IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA, IT

BECOMES HARDER AND HARDER

TO OPPOSE HIM BECAUSE HE

IS A WINNER; MAYBE HE HAS

IT RIGHT.

SO WHEN THE AYATOLLAHS AND

THE ROUHANIS COME BACK AND

HE SAYS, LOOK, WE TOLD YOU

WE'D BE ABLE TO GET THEM

TO BACK DOWN.

SO LET'S SAY WHATEVER

SMALL GROUP OF TRUE --

I'LL CALL THEM LIBERAL

DEMOCRATS IN IRAN, FOR

LACK OF A BETTER TERM,

THEY'LL STILL BE THERE.

BUT THE SMALL CORE IS NOT

WHAT CAUSES REGIME CHANGE,

OR EVEN POLITICAL CHANGE.

WHERE IS THAT LARGE

CENTER?

AND THAT LARGE CENTER HAS

NOW MOVED, ON PURELY

PRACTICAL TERMS -- IT IS

NOT ALL ABOUT IDEOLOGY --

MORE TOWARDS THE REGIME.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WE LOOK AROUND

THE REGION, AND HERE THERE

IS ONE MORE STEP OF THE

UNITED STATES AND EUROPE

STEPPING BACK, EASING UP.

IRAN SHOWING THAT IT CAN

MAKE THE MOVE.

Erick: FILLING THE

VACUUM.

FILLING THE VACUUM IS

ONE THING.

BUT JUST SORT OF MOVING

TOGETHER WITH THE WEST

BACK AND THEM FORWARD, AND

YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY

OF ALL OF THOSE POSSIBLE

HANGERS-ON IN THE MIDDLE

SAYING, HEY, THIS IS THE

TEAM TO GO WITH.

BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IN THE

BLOODY MIDDLE EAST, YOU

DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE

LOSING SIDE.

Erick: IRAN IS THE

STRONG HORSE.

THAT'S IT AND YOU GO

WITH HIM.

Erick: THE SUCCESS

BREEDS ATTRACTION.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE SAW THAT WITH ISIS.

Erick: AND NOW ISIS

ON A SIMILAR BUT SEPARATE

TRACK, IS GAINING STRENGTH

AND FOLLOWERS.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON ISIS

AND ITS RISE?

IRAN AND ISIS -- THEIR

REGIONAL AMBITIONS ARE

SORT OF BUMPING UP AGAINST

EACH OTHER.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN

PUT THEM ON THE SAME

LEVEL.

ISIS, WITH ALL OF THEIR

HORRENDOUS BLOODY TRACK

RECORD, IT'S NOT A GLOBAL

STRATEGIC THREAT.

THEY'RE WHAT I CALL A

SECURITY THREAT.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE A

DISTINCTION.

THEY CAN KILL A LOT OF

PEOPLE.

RWANDA, A LOT OF PEOPLE

GOT KILLED.

AND I SAY THAT NOT

OFFHANDED AT ALL.

Erick: ABSOLUTELY.

IRAN IS A NATION STATE

WITH A BALLISTIC MISSILE

PROGRAM.

EXACTLY.

AND I WOULD EVEN TAKE IT A

STEP FURTHER.

I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING

AT THE MODERN MIDDLE EAST,

EVEN THE NATION STATE

CATAGORIZATION MAY BE

OBSOLETE.

Erick: SYRIA, IRAQ,

DO THEY EXIST ANYMORE?

SYRIA, IRAQ, LEBANON

HAS BEEN GONE FOR DECADES.

YOU HAVE A FEW HANGERS-ON,

LIKE JORDAN, BUT THEY'RE

NOT SERIOUS PLAYERS.

SAUDI ARABIA ARE LARGELY

FINANCIERS.

THEY BUY ASSISTANCE.

EVEN SAUDI ARABIA AND

YEMEN CAN BARELY HANDLE IT

THEMSELVES.

THEY HAVE TO BRING EGYPT

IN.

SO I'M SEEING A MIDDLE

EAST THAT HAS NOT STATE

FAILURES BUT STATE SYSTEM

FAILURES.

AND I THINK IT IS THE

FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING

SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON

THIS LEVEL.

THE ATTEMPT TO IMPOSE THE

WESTERN STATE SYSTEM, WHAT

IS CALLED THE WESTERN

SYSTEM OUT OF THE TREATIES

OF 1648 -- DIDN'T TAKE

HOLD.

I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL

NEVER COME BACK.

I DON'T DO PROPHECY.

IT'S A DANGEROUS BUSINESS.

Erick: YEAH.

[LAUGHTER]

BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY,

WITH A REGION THAT

INCLUDES A GOOD PART OF

NORTH AFRICA AND ALL OF

THE WAY EASTWARD INTO

AFGHANISTAN.

AND INTO EVEN THE TRIBAL

AREAS OF PAKISTAN, WHERE

THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY NO

TRUE STATES IN THE CLASSIC

SENSE.

AND WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD

ARE FLEDGLING EMPIRES, AND

NOT COINCIDENTALLY, IN THE

GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS OF

TRADITIONAL EMPIRES.

WE'RE SEEING IRAN, PERSIA,

TURKEY, THE OTTOMANS, AND

I WOULD ADD EGYPT TO THAT,

WITH RUSSIA SORT OF

FLOATING IN THERE IN THE

BACKGROUND.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

IMPERIAL, NOT STATE.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD

EXAMPLE TO DESCRIBE IT, OF

COURSE EGYPT IS A STATE,

AS ARE IRAN AND TURKEY.

BUT EGYPT IS PLAYING THIS

GAME, IF YOU WILL, WITH A

REGIONAL EGYPTIAN

PERSPECTIVE, NOT AN ARAB

PERSPECTIVE, NOT A

SUNNI-MUSLIM PERSPECTIVE.

I'M NOT SAYING THOSE DON'T

MATTER, BUT THAT IS NOT

WHERE IT IS COMING FROM.

IT IS BEHAVING AS THE

EGYPTIAN EMPIRE HAS BEEN

BEHAVED.

AND IRAN IS BEHAVING AS

THE PERSIAN EMPIRE HAS

BEHAVED.

TURKEY LIKEWISE.

STATE SYSTEMS ARE -- TAKE

THE EUROPEAN STATE

SYSTEM -- GEOGRAPHICALLY

INTERLOCK PERFECTLY AND

NEATLY.

YOU COULD EVEN USE THE

AMERICAN FEDERAL STATE

SYSTEM.

THERE IS NO SPACE BETWEEN

THE STATES.

THERE IS A LINE, AND

YOU'RE EITHER ON THIS SIDE

OF IT OR THAT SIDE OF IT.

WHEN YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE,

YOU'RE HERE.

WHEN YOU'RE ON THAT SIDE,

YOU'RE ON ANOTHER ONE.

IN IMPERIAL ZONES, THERE

ARE GAPS.

THERE IS THE CENTER OF THE

EMPIRE.

AND AS YOU GO OUT TO THE

PERIPHERY, THINGS GET

FUZZIER AND FUZZIER.

EVERY EMPIRE HAS THAT.

THE RESULT IS -- AND

ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S

WORLD -- THERE IS A VACUUM

AND SOMETHING RISES UP.

IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL IN

THE 18th CENTURY, LOCAL

BEDOWIN ROSE TO POWER

WITHIN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE

BECAUSE THE EMPIRE

COULDN'T EXTEND ALL OF THE

WAY.

AND LIKEWISE HERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THE

RISE OF THAT IS IN PART

EXACERBATED, ACCELERATED,

BY THOSE WEAK ZONES.

SO WE HAVE THE ISIS, THE

HOUTHIS, THE HEZBOLLAH,

THE DOZENS OF GLOBAL

JIHADI ORGANIZATIONS THAT

ARE OPERATING, MOST OF

WHICH NOBODY HAS EVER

HEARD OF BECAUSE THERE ARE

200, 300 MEMBERS IN SYRIA,

KILLING EACH OTHER AND

KILLING OTHERS AND THAT

SORT OF THING.

SO THAT'S A -- I WOULD SAY

THAT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF

STATE SYSTEM BREAK DOWN.

IT IS NOT SIMPLY THAT

SYRIA HAS BROKEN DOWN.

IT IS THAT EVERYTHING

AROUND IT HAS BROKEN DOWN.

Erick: YEAH.

BECAUSE THE WORLD

SYSTEM IS A STATE SYSTEM,

IRAN CAN'T MOVE OVERTLY

YET, NOR CAN TURKEY.

SO THEY USE PROXIES.

Erick: IRANIANS ARE

THE MASTER.

WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT HERE.

STANDARD FOR MORE WITH

ELLIOT.

STICK AROUND.

DAVID

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE TALKING TO ELLIOT,

FOUNDER OF "MIDEAST ON

TARGET."

ELLIOT, A QUESTION I'M

ASKED A LOT BY PEOPLE

THESE DAYS IS: WHY ARE

ISIS AND IRAN FIGHTING

EACH OTHER?

THEY BOTH HATE AMERICA.

THEY'RE BOTH JIHADIST

ENTITIES.

WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING EACH

OTHER?

THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS

POWER.

AN ASSOCIATED ANSWER WOULD

BE THE SUNNI-SHI'ITE

DIVIDE, BUT ASSOCIATED.

THAT'S NOT REALLY WHERE

IT'S AT.

I THINK ONE OF THE

MISTAKES WE MAKE -- AND I

WATCH AND READ MUCH

ANALYSIS, IS TO BREAK IT

DOWN INTO THOSE PURELY

RELIGIOUS LINES.

IT'S THE SUNNIS AND THE

SHI'ITES AGAINST EACH

OTHER, THE HATFIELDS AND

THE McCOYS AND THAT

EXPLAINS IT ALL.

WHEN I LOOK AT A SITUATION

LIKE THE MIDDLE EAST,

THEY'RE NOT JUST THE

MIDDLE EAST.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASK

MYSELF IS: DOES THIS MODEL

OR YARDSTICK OR THIS LENS

GIVE ME A GOOD REPETITIVE

CONSISTENT RESULT WHEN I

APPLY IT TO THE SITUATION?

WHEN I SAKE THE

SUNNI-SHI'ITE ONE, THE

ANSWER IS NO.

BECAUSE IF IT DID, I

WOULDN'T HAVE CASES LIKE

IRAN, WHICH IS SHI'ITE,

SUPPORTING HAMAS, WHICH IS

SUNNI, SUPPORTING THE

TALIBAN, WHICH IS SUNNI.

HEZBOLLAH, WHICH IS AN

IRANIAN PROXY, AND SHI'ITE

SUPPORTS HAMAS, WHICH IS

SUNNI.

ISIS WHICH IS SUNNI,

FIGHTING THE KURDS IN

KOBANI, WHICH IS SUNNI.

IF I JUST ASK THE

QUESTIONS, IS IT THE SUNNI

VERSES THE SHI'ITES,

ANSWER IS NO, AND THE

MODEL ISN'T WORKING FOR

ME.

THERE ARE TOO MANY FOR ME.

SO YOU ASK, WHAT IS IT?

TO ME IT IS POWER, BUT IT

IS EXPANDING POWER.

WE USED THE WORD FASCISM

BEFORE.

AND THESE ARE FASCIST

REGIMES OR ORGANIZATIONS.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE -- I AM

SURE, TUALLY, THAT THE

STATE/NON-STATE DIVIDE HAS

VERY LITTLE VALUE TODAY.

WHAT IS MORE OF A STATE,

LEBANON OR HEZBOLLAH?

Erick: GOOD POINT.

SYRIA, THE ISLAMIC

STATE CONTROLS MORE OF

SYRIA IN TERMS OF AREA.

SO THEY'RE ALL CALLED

POLITICAL SYSTEMS,

POLITICAL ACTORS.

SOME ARE MORE STATE, SOME

ARE LESS STATE.

BUT IT IS BASICALLY ABOUT

POWER.

WE HAVE IMPERIAL WANNABES

BECAUSE NONE OF THEM ARE

EMPIRES YET.

Erick: IRAN STANDS IN

THE WAY OF ISIS, AND ISIS

STANDS IN THE WAY OF IRAN.

EXACTLY.

AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM

DRAW THEIR IDEOLOGY FROM

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

BUT, HERE AGAIN, IT'S NOT

ABOUT MY MODERATE OR LESS

MODERATE OR MORE RADICAL

OR LESS RADICAL.

I USE THE NAZI EXAMPLE

AGAIN.

THEY DRAW FROM THE NAZIS.

THEY ARE NOT NAZIS.

THE NAZIS WERE NAZIS.

WHEN HITLER CAME TO POWER,

THERE WERE TWO POWERFUL

MILITARY.

AT ONE POINT HITLER WENT

TO ONE AND GAVE ORDERS TO

WIPE OUT THE OTHER.

OKAY.

DOES THAT MAKE THE S.A.

MODERATE?

Erick: EXACTLY.

GREAT PARALLEL.

THERE ARE NO MODERATE

NAZIS OR MODERATE

JIHADISTS.

EXACTLY.

BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING

THIS WAY OR THAT WAY.

I THINK TO A CERTAIN

EXTENT ON A POLICY LEVEL,

WE'RE OVER MICROANALYZING

THIS.

Erick: IT WAS SO

GREAT HAVING YOU ON THE

SHOW TODAY.

TELL US WHERE WE CAN FIND

MORE OF YOUR WORK.

RIGHT NOW OUR SITE IS

DOWN.

WE WERE VISITED BY HACKERS

FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.

PEOPLE CARE.

IF THEY GOOGLE MY NAME,

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS

IT.

Erick: AND YOU'RE ON

THE SPEAKING CIRCUIT HERE

IN THE UNITED NATIONS.

KEEP AN EYE OUT, FOLKS.

ELLIOT CHARDOFF.

WE'LL DO IT NEXT TIME IN

ISRAEL.

I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU

TO IT.

Erick: COMING UP, A

NEW BOOK CALLED "CATCH THE

JEW."

THAT'S RIGHT, "CATCH THE

JEW," BUT IT IS PRO

ISRAEL.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WANT

TO MISS THIS GUESS, COMING

UP.

STICK AROUND.

CHARGERS

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WELL, IT IS THE NUMBER ONE

BEST-SELLING BOOK IN

ISRAEL, AND IT BLOWS THE

LID OFF HOW THE UNITED

STATES GOVERNMENT AND THE

EUROPEAN UNION ARE HELPING

ISRAEL'S ENEMIES.

"CATCH THE JEW" IS A

CHRONICLE OF THE AUTHOR'S

JOURNEY THROUGH THE HOLY

LAND, AND YOU WOULDN'T

BELIEVE WHAT HE FOUND.

TUBIA, THANK YOU FOR

JOINING US.

THANK YOU, ERICK, FOR

HAVING ME.

Erick: I LOVE THE

BOOK, "CATCH THE JEW."

THAT'S A PROVOCATIVE

TITLE, A GREAT COVER.

IT IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT

PEOPLE THINK.

THEY PROBABLY THINK, IS

THIS AN ANTI-SEMITIC BOOK.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS

HILARIOUS.

IT IS SERIES SERIOUS, BUT IT IS A

GREAT JOURNEY.

IT IS THE NUMBER ONE

SELLING BOOK IN ISRAEL.

YES.

Erick: TELL US, FIRST

OF ALL, WHAT INSPIRED YOU

TO WRITE THIS BOOK.

WHAT INSPIRED ME TO

WRITE A BOOK IS I'M A

JOURNALIST FROM GERMANY

AND I'D BEEN ASKED BY MY

EDITOR FROM THE BOOK

PUBLISHING COMPANY A FEW

YEARS AGO -- SHE LIKED TO

SHE MY ARTICLES IN, LIKE,

THE NEW YORK TIMES IN

GERMANY, A LITTLE MORE

BRAIN NE.

BRAINY.

AND SHE ASKED ME TO WRITE

A BOOK ABOUT GERMANY,

WHICH I DID, WHICH WAS A

HUGE HIT.

AND A LONG-TIME

BEST-SELLER.

AND MY PUBLISHER ASKED ME

TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT

ISRAEL.

HE SAID, BASICALLY, YOU

CAME TO OUR COUNTRY, YOU

TRAVELLED HERE, AND YOU

FOUND WHAT YOU FOUND,

BASICALLY THAT MOST

GERMANS TODAY HAVE

ANTI-SEMITIC GERMANS.

Erick: STILL?

ABOUT 80%.

NOW, LET'S SEE WHAT YOU

FIND IN YOUR COUNTRY.

Erick: YOU'RE AN

ISRAELI NATIVE.

SO IN THE BEGINNING I

SAID NO, BECAUSE WHAT ARE

YOU GOING TO HIDE FROM

ISRAEL?

THERE ARE GOD KNOWS HOW

MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN

WRITTEN THERE.

WHAT CAN YOU MAKE NEW?

HE CONVINCED A JEW BY

OFFERING HIM MORE MONEY.

HEY, I'LL DO IT.

Erick: TUVIA IS

JEWISH, BY THE WAY.

AND SO WE WENT THERE,

AGAIN WITH MY WIFE, AND IT

WAS AMAZING WHAT I FOUND.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING.

THE IDEA OF WRITING THE

BOOK --

Erick: EVEN BEING

BORN AND RAISED THERE?

EVEN BEING BORN AND

RAISED, AND I LEFT 33

YEARS EARLIER.

AND THE COUNTRY I LEFT IS

NOT THE COUNTRY I CAME

BACK INTO.

WHEN I LEFT THERE WAS THE

ARAB AND THE JEW.

THE COUNTRY I CAME BACK

TWO HAD THREE TRIBES: THE

ARAB, THE JEW, AND THE

EUROPE.

AND THE MINOR THE AMERICAN, BUT

THAT'S BASICALLY THE

WESTERNER.

THERE ARE MILLIONS AND

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

BASICALLY WHAT IT IS

CALLED IS THE PEACE AND

LOVE INDUSTRY.

AND, MIND YOU, EUROPEANS

ARE BASICALLY FUNDED BY

THE GOVERNMENT.

ANIT IS BASICALLY

GOVERNMENTS FUNDING IT,

AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE

EUROPEANS, AND SOME OF

THEM AMERICANS.

AND THEIR JOB IS ONE: TWO

MAKE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE

EAST.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

SO I INFILTRATED THOSE

ORGANIZATIONS.

AND WHAT I FOUND OUT IS

TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THEIR JOB IS TO

DESTABILIZE ISRAEL, TO

MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO

ARAB ALIVE WHO DOES NOT

HATE ISRAEL.

IF THERE IS AN ARAB WHO

STILL TRUSTS THE JEWS,

THEY TELL HIM, DON'T TRUST

THE JEW.

AND THERE ARE OTHER

THINGS.

THEY GO AROUND AND SCAN

THE LAND, AND THEY FIND

AND IDENTIFY JEWS WHO ARE

SELF-HATING.

THEY MEET THEM, AND THEN

THEY SAY, MR. MOSES, HOW

MUCH MONEY DO YOU NEED FOR

YOUR ACTIVITIES?

WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

THEY FUND THOSE

SELF-HATING JEWS.

IT IS FRIGHTENING --

Erick: IN SINISTER.

IT IS BASICALLY

ANTI-SEMITISM -- SINISTER.

ANTI-SEMITISM PURE.

Erick: AND THEY'LL BE

THE FIRST ONES WHO SAY

WE'RE NOT ANTI-SEMITIC.

WE'RE ANTI-ZIONIST --

EXACTLY.

THANK YOU.

EVEN A GROUP, FOR

EXAMPLE,

DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS.

I CAUGHT THEM GOING TO

VILLAGES TRYING TO INVENT

DISEASES THAT DO NOT

EXIST, THAT ARE NOT THERE,

ALL FOR ONE PURPOSE: TO

LATER BLAME THE JEWS.

I FOLLOWED JOURNALISTS

FROM MAINSTREAM MEDIA --

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT

EXTREMIST MEDIA.

FROM MAINSTREAM, EUROPEAN

AND AMERICAN MEDIA, AND I

SAW HOW THEY MANIPULATED

THEIR INTERVIEWEES TO SAY

THINGS AGAINST JEWS OR

AGAINST THE ISRAELI

GOVERNMENT OR AGAINST

SETTLERS.

I HAVE IT ON RECORD, BY

THE WAY.

Erick: IT'S ALL IN

THE BOOK.

I HAVE VIDEO.

Erick: METICULOUSLY

DOCUMENTEDMENT.

YES.

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DO THIS

OTHERWISE.

SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS

AND PEOPLE MENTIONED IN

THIS BOOK HAVE TONS OF

MONEY AND SCRIBES OF

LAWYERS.

IF YOU ASCRIBE TO THEM

ANYTHING YOU CANNOT TRUE

OR YOU CANNOT PROVE,

YOU'LL SEE THEM IN COURT.

Erick: AND TUVIA HAS

A VERY SOLID JOURNALISTIC

BACKGROUND.

AND, NUMBER TWO, THIS IS

SO READABLE.

THIS IS EVIL WHAT THEY'RE

DOING.

THEY DON'T BELIEVE EVIL

EXISTS, BUT IT IS WRITTEN

IN SUCH A WAY -- IT IS SO

READABLE AND IT IS

ACTUALLY ENTERTAINING,

DARE I SAY, THE WAY IT IS

WRITTEN.

IT ASKS TODAY

QUESTIONS.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE

CONSERVATIVE SIDE SAY IT

IS AGAINST MUSLIMS -- WHAT

THIS BOOK SHOWS YOU, AT

LEAST WHEN IT APPLIES TO

ISRAEL, THE ISLAMIC

ANTI-SEMITISM, AT LEAST IN

THAT AREA, IS NOT IN-BORN.

IT IS BASICALLY BEING PAID

FOR.

Erick: BY EUROPE AND

THE WEST.

BY EUROPEANS AND

AMERICANS WHO RETRAIN THEM

TO BE ANTI-SEMITIC.

Erick: A QUICK

DISCLAIMER, THERE IS SOME

SALTY LANGUAGE IN THE BOOK

"CATCH THE JEWS."

BEING FROM PHILADELPHIA,

I'M NOT THE MOST EASILY

OFFENDED GUY, AND I

BELIEVE TUVIA HAS A

POWERFUL MESSAGE.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PICK

THE BOOK UP.

STAY TUNED FOR PART TWO IN

AN UP COMING EPISODE OF

"THE WATCHMAN."

Erick: WELL, THANKS

FOR JOINING US ON "THE

WATCHMAN" THIS WEEK.

UNTIL NEXT TIME, GOD BLESS

YOU AND REMEMB, NEVER

HOLD YOUR PEACE.

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