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700 Club Interactive: “Whose Land Is It? Palestinian Claims” – July 30, 2015

A look at the Palestinian claims to the West Bank and Jerusalem, including ancestry, religion, and the “right of return”. Read Transcript


Gordon: THE REAL

STORY BEHIND THE LAND OF

PALESTINE.

WHY SHOULD WE CALL IT

THAT?

Gordon: AND THE

CLAIMS TO THE TERRITORY.

THIS IS NOT QUITE

HISTORICALLY TRUE.

Gordon: SO WHO REALLY

OWNS THIS SACRED LAND?

TO CALL THE JEWISH

OCCUPYERS IN THEIR OWN

HOME, THIS IS REALLY A

UNIQUE TRAVESTY OF

HISTORY.

Gordon: FIND OUT ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

IT THE MOST VOLATILE LAND

DISPUTE EVER IN HISTORY.

BOTH JEWS AND PALESTINIAN

ARABS CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF

THE BIBLICAL LANDS OF

JUDEA AND SAMARIA, KNOWN

TODAY AS THE WEST BANK.

PALESTINIANS CLAIM THEIR

ANCESTORS HAVE LIVED THERE

FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS,

LONG BEFORE THE JEWS.

BUT IS THAT CLAIM

SUPPORTED BY HISTORY?

> IN 1969, ISRAELI PRIME

MINISTER GOLDA MEIR MADE

HEADLINES WITH THIS

COMMENT: "THERE IS NO SUCH

THING AS THE PALESTINIAN

PEOPLE.

IT IS NOT AS IF WE CAME

AND THREW THEM OUT AND

TOOK THEIR COUNTRY.

THEY DIDN'T EXIST."

GOLDA'S STATEMENT WAS

CONTROVERSIAL, BUT AS IT

TURNED OUT, MANY ARAB

LEADERS AND HISTORIANS

AGREED WITH HER.

IN 1937, ARAB LEADER ONI

ABDUL HADDI MADE THIS

STATEMENT TO THE BRITISH

PEEL COMMISSION: "THERE IS

NO SUCH COUNTRY AS

PALESTINE.

PALESTINE IS A TERM THE

ZIONISTS INVENTED.

THERE IS NO PALESTINE IN

THE BIBLE.

PALESTINE IS ALIEN TO US."

NEARLY A DECADE LATER,

ARAB HISTORIAN PHILIP HIDI

AGREED.

IN HIS TESTIMONY TO THE

ANGLO-AMERICAN COMMITTEE,

"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS

PALESTINE IN HISTORY.

ABSOLUTELY NOT."

IN 1956, A SAUDI

REPRESENTATIVE TO THE U.N.

STATED: "IT IS COMMON

KNOWLEDGE THAT PALESTINE

IS NOTHING BUT SOUTHERN

SYRIA.

SYRIA."

AND MORE RECENTLY, SEREN

DICTATOR al-ASSAD GAVE

THIS LECTURE TO P.L.O.

LEADER YASSER ARAFAT:

"NEVER FORGET THIS ONE

POINT: THERE IS NO SUCH

THING AS A PALESTINIAN

PEOPLE.

THERE IS NO PALESTINIAN

ENTITY.

PALESTINE IS AN INTEGRAL

PART OF SYRIA."

WITH THE PEEL

COMMISSION OF 1936, THE

BRITISH GOVERNMENT

OFFERED, FOR THE FIRST

TIME, THE PARTITION OF THE

LAND.

THE PARTITION OF PALESTINE

INTO A JEWISH PALESTINE

AND INTO AN ARAB

PALESTINE.

WE WERE ALL PALESTINIANS

BECAUSE THIS WAS THE

NATURE OF THIS

ADMINISTRATIVE UNIT,

PALESTINEA.

NOW THE PALESTINIANS ARE

OWNING THIS BUT IT IS NOT

QUITE HIS CLE HISTORICALLY TRUE.

Gordon: SO LET'S TAKE

A LOOK.

Gordon: MANY

PALESTINIAN ARABS,

INCLUDING A ARAFAT, CLAIMED

TO BE DESCENDENTS OF THE

ANCIENT CANAANITES.

A COMPELLING ARGUMENT.

EVEN AS RECENTLY AS MAY OF

2014, A P.A. SPOKESMAN

STATED THAT THE

PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN IN

THE LAND FOR 5,000 YEARS.

BUT HISTORY SHOWS THERE IS

NO WAY THE PALESTINIANS

COULD BE RELATED TO THE

CANAANITES BECAUSE THE

CANAANITES WERE ALMOST

COMPLETELY OBLITERATED BY

THE ISRAELITES IN THE

13th CENTURY B.C.

THE FEW THAT REMAINED WERE

ASSIMILATED INTO ISRAELITE

CULTURE.

AND PALESTINIANS CLAIM THE

ANCIENT PHILISTINES ARE

THEIR ANCESTORS, AND THEY

TAKE THEIR NAME FROM THE

TRIBE OF GOLIATH.

BUT DO THEY ACTUALLY SHARE

D.N.A.?

THE PHILISTINES WERE A

SEA-FARING PEOPLE WHO CAME

FROM CRETE, THE LARGEST OF

THE GREEK ISLANDS.

THE PHILISTINES GOT

THEIR NAME FROM THE HEBREW

WORD, CHRISTIN, WHICH

MEANS INVADERS.

PALESTINE MEANS INVADED

LAND.

WHY SHOULD WE CALL IT

THAT?

Gordon: WHEN THE

PHILISTINES INVADED ISRAEL

AND THE 12th CENTURY

B.C., THEY NEVER SETTLED

IN JERUSALEM, HEBRON, OR

JERICHO, ALL CITIES TODAY

CLAIMED BY THE

PALESTINIANS.

BY THE SEVENTH CENTURY

B.C., THE PHILISTINES HAD

BEEN ASSIMILATED BY THE

ASSYRIANS, AND THEN

CONQUERED BY THE

BABYLONIANS.

FROM THERE THEY

DISAPPEARED FROM THE PAGES

OF HISTORY.

AND EXPERTS SAY NO ONE

ALIVE TODAY COULD PROVE

PHILISTINE LINEAGE.

BUT IF THE PALESTINIANS

WANT TO CLAIM THEM, THEY

WOULD HAVE TO HAVE

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEIR

REAL ANCESTORAL HOMELAND

IS NOT ISRAEL, BUT THE

GREEK ISLAND OF CRETE.

THE PALESTINIANS MAY NOT

HAVE GOTTEN THEIR D.N.A.

FROM THE PHILISTINES, BUT

THEY DID GET THEIR NAME.

WHEN THE ROMAN EMPEROR

HIDRIN CONQUERED THEM IN

1835, HE WAS DETERMINED TO

ERADICATE EVEN THE MEMORY

OF THE JEWS, AND ERASE

THEIR CONNECTION TO THE

LAND OF ISRAEL.

SO HADRIN RENAMED THE

REGION AFTER THEIR

ENEMIES, CALLING IT SYRIA

PALESTINEA.

SO IF THEY'RE NIGHT

CANAANITES AND THEY'RE NOT

PHILISTINES, WHO ARE THE

PALESTINIANS?

BIOLOGICALLY, THEY SHARED

D.N.A. WITH SAUDIS,

IRAQIS, SYRIANS, AND

JORDANIANS.

SIMPLY PUT, THEY'RE ARABS.

NEVER IN HISTORY WAS

THERE A PALESTINIAN NATION

OR A PALESTINIAN STATE.

AT THAT TIME NOBODY WAS

THINKING IN LINES OF A

PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

THEY WERE ALL ARABS.

Gordon: BEHIND ME IS

ONE OF THE MOST

CONTROVERSIAL PIECES OF

REAL ESTATE IN THE WORLD.

THE TEMPLE MOUNT IS THE

HOLIEST SITE IN JUDAISM,

AND THE THIRD HOLIEST IN

ISLAM.

MUSLIM TRADITION SAYS THAT

MUHAMMAD TRAVELLED HERE ON

HIS FAMOUS NIGHT JOURNEY.

AND THAT TRADITION FORMS

THE BASIS FOR THE

PALESTINIAN'S CLAIM TO

JERUSALEM.

ARABS CLAIM JERUSALEM AS

THE ISLAMIC CITY OF

ALKUDS, BUT THERE IS NO

RECORD THAT THE PROPHET

MUHAMMAD HAD EVER BEEN

THERE.

AND EVEN HIS ARMIES DIDN'T

ARRIVE THERE UNTIL FIVE

YEARS AFTER HIS DEATH.

THE CITY OF JERUSALEM

ISN'T MENTIONED EVEN ONCE

IN THE QURAN.

WHILE THE HEBREW BIBLE

MENTIONS IT MORE THAN 600

TIMES.

IN MUHAMMAD'S LIFETIME, IT

WAS A FAIRLY UNIMPORTANT

CITY IN THE BIZANTINE

EMPIRE.

IT WAS A CHRISTIAN CITY

WITHOUT A SINGLE MOSQUE.

WHEN THE MUSLIMS CONQUERED

JERUSALEM, THEY CHOSE TO

BUILD THEIR MOSQUE ON THE

JEWISH TEMPLE MOUNT,

BELIEVING IT TO BE A HOLY

SITE.

THERE THEY BUILT THE DOME

OF THE ROCK AND THE ALOXA.

HIS NAME WAS COPIED FROM

THE STORY OF THE NIGHT

JOURNEY IN THE QURAN.

SEVERAL MUSLIM SCHOLARS

PLACED THE CONSTRUCTION OF

THE MOSQUE AROUND 690.

MUHAMMAD DIED IN 632.

SO HOW COULD MUHAMMAD'S

FAMOUS NIGHT JOURNEY HAVE

TAKEN HIM TO A MOSQUE IN

JERUSALEM THAT WOULDN'T BE

BUILT UNTIL AFTER HIS

DEATH?

THE QURAN DOESN'T MENTION

JERUSALEM.

IT SAYS THAT MUHAMMAD'S

DREAM FLIGHT TOOK HIM TO

AL-AQSA, WHICH MEANS THE

FARTHEST PLACE.

EARLY ISLAMIC SCHOLARS

INTERPRETED THAT TO MEAN A

HEAVENLY PLACE, OR THE

COURTYARD OF ALLAH.

THAT ALL CHANGED AS ISLAM

EVOLVED INTO A POLITICAL

FORCE.

DURING THE CRUSADES, THE

MUSLIM GENERAL, SALADINE,

CHANGED ISLAMIC TRADITION

TO STRENGTHEN THE MUSLIM

CLAIM TO JERUSALEM.

HE STATED THAT MUHAMMAD'S

FLIGHT TOOK HIM NOT TO

HEAVEN, BUT TO THE AL-AQSA

MOSQUE IN JERUSALEM.

AND TODAY THE JEWISH

TEMPLE MOUNT IS ALSO THE

THIRD HOLIEST SITE IN

ISLAM, SECOND ONLY TO THE

ARABIAN CITIES OF MECCA

AND MEDINA.

MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT ONCE

THEY CLAIM A PIECE OF

LAND, IT BELONGS TO ISLAM

FOREVER.

STILL, AT THE BEGINNING OF

THE 20th CENTURY,

ISLAMIC LEADERS

ACKNOWLEDGED THE TEM POLL TEMPLE

MOUNT'S JEWISH HISTORY.

IN 1984, THE SUPREME

COUNCIL PUBLISHED THIS.

IT SAYS THE TEMPLE IS

BEYOND DISPUTE.

THIS, TOO, IS THE SPOT,

ACCORDING TO THE UNIVERSAL

BELIEF, ON WHICH DAVID

BUILT THERE AN ALTER UNTO

THE LORD.

THE PAMPHLET ALSO

DESCRIBES THE UNDERGROUND

CHAMBER THE CRUSADERS

CALLED SOLOMON'S STABLES.

IT DATES PROBABLY AS FAR

BACK AS THE CONSTRUCTION

OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE.

IN 1927, A STRONG

EARTHQUAKE DAMAGED THE

MOSQUE.

AND DURING RENOVATIONS,

ARCHEOLOGISTS ANALYZED THE

STRUCTURE.

THEY FOUND BEAMS MADE FROM

CEDAR OF LEBANON AND

CYPRUS, DATING AS FAR BACK

AS THE NINTH CENTURY B.C.,

AROUND THE TIME OF KING

SOLOMON, WHO USED THOSE

VERY MATERIALS TO BUILD

THE FIRST JEWISH TEMPLE.

THE EXCAVATIONS ALSO

UNCOVERED A JEWISH RITUAL

BATH FROM THE SECOND

TEMPLE, AND A MOSAIC

BELIEVED TO BE PART OF A

BIZANTINE CHURCH.

MOST HISTORIANS AGREE, THE

JEWS WERE HERE FIRST.

BUT THE ARABS WILL ARGUE

THAT THEY WERE HERE THE

LONGEST, AND THE SO-CALLED

RIGHT OF RETURN HAS BEEN A

CONSTANT THEME IN EVERY

MIDDLE EAST PEACE SUMMIT

SINCE 1948.

FROM THE CRUSADES UNTIL

THE 19th CENTURY, THE

ARAB POPULATION HAD ONLY

GROWN FROM AROUND 200,000

TO 300,000.

ARAB GROWTH WAS STAGNANT.

AND POPULATION EXPERTS SAY

IT WOULD HAVE STAYED THAT

WAY, EXEMP EXCEPT FOR ONE THING:

THE ARRIVAL OF THE JEWS.

WITH THE WAVES OF JEWISH

IMMIGRATION STARTING IN

1882, ARABS STARTED

FLOODING INTO THE

PALESTINE FROM NEIGHBORING

COUNTRIES.

AND THEY CAME FOR TWO

REASONS: ONE, TWO ENJOY A

HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING

IN PALESTINE; AND, TWO, TO

FIGHT THE IMMIGRATION OF

THE JEWS WHO MADE THAT

STANDARD OF LIVING

POSSIBLE.

BY 1948, THE ARAB

POPULATION OF PALESTINE

WAS 1.3 MILLION.

THE BRITISH GOVERNOR OF

THE SINAI ONCE REMARKED,

"IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO

MAKE A CASE FOR THE MISERY

OF THE ARABS.

IF AT THE SAME TIME THEIR

COM PATRIOTS FROM

ADJOINING STATES COULD NOT

BE KEPT FROM GOING IN TO

SHARE THAT MISERY."

SOME SAY IF THE

PALESTINIANS WANT A LEGAL

RETURN TO THEIR COUNTRIES

OF ORIGIN, THEY WOULD HAVE

TO RETURN TO PLACES LIKE

EGYPT, IRAQ, MOROCCO, AND

SYRIA, BUT NOT TO ISRAEL.

TODAY MANY WORLD LEADERS

CALL ON ISRAEL TO RETURN

TO ITS 1967 BORDERS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT

HISTORY, THOUGH BORDERS

AREN'T FROM 1967.

IN FACT, THEY'RE NOT EVEN

REAL BORDERS.

THE BORDERS OF THE WEST

BANK ARE IN ARMSTIST LIES,

WHICH WERE CREATED BY THE

RESULTS OF THE WAR OF

1948.

AND AT THE END OF THE WAR,

THIS IS WHERE THE ARMIES

STOOD STILL.

THIS IS HOW THE, QUOTE,

UNQUOTE, BORDER OF 1967 OR

OF 1949 WAS CREATED.

SO THE 1967, WHICH IS THE

ARMISTIST LINE SERVED AS A

BORDER BETWEEN ISRAEL AND

THE STATE OF JORDAN.

AND THE STATE OF JORDAN

ALSO ANNEXED THE WEST

BANK, AND IT BECAME PART

OF JORDAN.

Gordon: WHEN JORDAN

OCCUPIED THE WEST BANK AND

EAST JERUSALEM IN 1949,

THE JEWS WERE ETHNICALLY

CLEANSED FROM BOTH PLACES.

AT LEAST 30 SYNAGOGUES

WERE DESTROYED.

AND JEWS WERE BANNED FROM

HOLY SITES, LIKE THE

WESTERN WALL.

WHILE PALESTINIAN ARABS

LIVING THERE AUTOMATICALLY

BECAME JORDIAN CITIZENS.

SO ISRAEL CAN'T GO BACK TO

THE SO-CALLED '67 BORDERS

FOR THREE REASONS: ONE,

BEFORE 1967, THE WEST BANK

WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDAN,

NOT BY THE PALESTINIANS.

AND JORDAN'S ANNEX SATION ANNEXATION OF

IT VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL

LAW.

TWO, THE LAND WAS LEGALLY

PROMISED TO THE JEWS BY

THE BRITISH MANDATE OF

1922.

AND, THREE, THERE WAS NO

PALESTINIAN STATE IN 1967,

OR EVER.

AS GOLDA MEIR ONCESETTE ONCE SAID,

"HOW CAN WE RETURN THE

OCCUPIED TERRITORIES?

THERE IS NO ONE TO RETURN

THEM TO."

THE TERM "OCCUPATION"

IS WHEN YOU POSSESS

SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT

YOURS, OR WHICH IS SOMEONE

ELSE'S.

THIS IS NOT THE CASE OF

THE WEST BANK.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

OCCUPATION, YES, THERE

WERE MANY OCCUPATIONS OVER

THE WEST BANK, STARTING

WITH THE BABYLONIANS AND

ASSYRIANS AND GREEKS AND

ROMANS, ALL THE WAY TO THE

OTTOMANS AND TO THE BRITS.

TO CALL THE JEWS OCCUPYERS

IN THEIR OWN HOME, THIS IS

REALLY A UNIQUE TRAVESTY

OF HISTORY.

THE WEST BANK WAS NEVER

HELD BY THE PALESTINIANS.

THEY WERE NEVER

SOVEREIGNS.

IN FACT, THERE WAS NO

OTHER SOVEREIGN OVER THE

WEST BANK THAN THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

Gordon: WELL, ON

TOMORROW'S PROGRAM WE'RE

GOING TO EXAMINE THE

JEWISH CLAIMS TO THE WEST

BANK, AND NOT JUST WHAT IS

IN THE BIBLE.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT HOW

THE JEWS CAME TO EXIST.

AND ALSO HOW THEY CAPTURED

THE WEST BANK AND THEN

STARTED TO DEVELOP THE

LAND.

WELL, YESTERDAY WE

FINISHED UP THE "THE HOPE"

SERIES, ALL ABOUT THE

REBIRTH OF ISRAEL.

SO IF YOU MISSED AN

EPISODE OR YOU WANT TO SEE

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HAVE TO DO IS GO TO

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WELL, COMING UP, WE'LL BE

ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS,

SO STAY WITH US.

BUT, FIRST, A LESSON IN

COEXISTENCE AT ONE OF THE

TOP UNIVERSITIES IN

ISRAEL.

IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU

COULD BE A MODEL BETWEEN

JEWS, ARABS, WHATEVER --

IS THAT TRUE?

HOPEFULLY.

I THINK SO.

OF COURSE.

Gordon: HEAR HOW

THESE STUDENTS ARE LIVING

IN PEACE WITH ONE ANOTHER

WHEN WE COME BACK.

Gordon: IT AN

OUTSTANDING UNIVERSITY IN

THE WEST BANK IN ISRAEL.

WHERE ISRAELI, JEWISH, AND

ARAB STUDENTS WORK AND

STUDY TOGETHER.

SO WHY HAS THE U.S. STATE

DEPARTMENT BOYCOTTED IT.

SCOTT ROSS BRINGS US MORE

ON THAT STORY.

Reporter: THIS IS

ARIAN UNIVERSITY, LOCATED

IN THE HILLS OF BIBLICAL

SAMARIA.

ESTABLISHED IN 1982, THE

SCHOOL SOUGHT TO IMPROVE

HIGHER EDUCATION HERE,

ESPECIALLY IN THE

SCIENCES, ENGINEERING, AND

HEALTH.

WE'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF

NOW A PARTICLE

ACCELERATOR.

YES.

Reporter: WHAT IS THE

PURPOSE OF A PARTICLE

ACCELERATOR?

DOES EVERYONE NEED ONE?

WE HAVE ONE IN EVERY

HOME.

YOU HAVE A MICROWAVE OVEN,

AND YOU HAVE A PARTICLE

ACCELERATOR AND IT CREATES

THE RADIATION.

Reporter: THIS

PROFESSOR TOLD ME THERE

ARE ONLY A FEW OF THESE

MACHINES IN THE WORLD.

THE MAIN RESEARCH WE

HAVE ACTUALLY OCCURRING

HERE NOW IS CANCER

RESEARCH.

WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT

THAT PARTICULAR RADIATION

CAUSES CANCER CELLS TO

KILL THEMSELVES.

Reporter: KILL

THEMSELVES?

YES.

Reporter: PUT THEM ON

A SUICIDE MISSION?

EXACTLY.

BUT ALL OF THE HEALTHY

CELLS ARE ALIVE AND WELL.

Reporter: THE

UNIVERSITY'S HOME IS

ARIEL, WHAT SOME CALL A

WEST BANK SETTLEMENT AND

TERRITORY PALESTINIANS

WANT FOR A FUTURE STATE.

IT IS ALSO A LAND PROMISED

TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS AN

ETERNAL INHERITANCE IN THE

BIBLE.

BUT YOU HAVE BEEN

BOYCOTTED AT TIMES.

WE HAVE BEEN BOYCOTTED.

Reporter: WHO IS

BOYCOTTING YOU?

EUROPEAN GOVERNMENTS

AND THE U.S. STATE

DEPARTMENT.

Reporter: DESPITE THE

POLITICS, THE UNIVERSITY

REPRESENTS A MODEL FOR

CO-EXISTENCE.

15,000 ISRAELI JEWISH AND

ARAB STUDENTS STUDY HERE

TOGETHER WITHOUT A

PROBLEM.

I SPOKE TO THE VARIETY OF

THE STUDENTS, SHIRA, A

JEWISH WOMAN FROM NEW

YORK, ELIAH RON, A RESERVE

SOLDIER, YASSER, AN

ISRAELI ARAB, AND YOSI,

WHO'S FAMILY IMMIGRATED

FROM ETHIOPIA.

Reporter: WHY DID YOU

CHOOSE TO COME HERE?

I WAS LOOKING FOR A

GOOD SOCIOLOGY PROGRAM,

AND I FOUND IT HERE.

IT IS PROFESSIONAL, OF

COURSE.

AND ESPECIALLY IN THE

COMMUNICATIONS.

THE PEOPLE HERE ARE SO

WARM AND HAPPY, AND THE

TEACHERS, TOO.

IT IS A SMALL UNIVERSITY.

THEY CAN GIVE GOOD CARE TO

EVERY STUDENT THEY SEE.

Reporter: DO YOU

AGREE WITH WHAT HE IS

SAYING ABOUT THE

ATMOSPHERE AND THE

RELATIONSHIP?

YES.

MY RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER

PEOPLE IS VERY GOOD.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY

PROBLEM WITH ANYONE HERE.

Reporter: DO ANY OF

YOU GET ANY HASSLES OR

PROBLEMS FROM FAMILY

MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU'VE

CHOSEN TO COME TO SCHOOL

HERE?

THERE ARE A LOT OF

HOSTILE ARABS AROUND HERE.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF

INCIDENTS AROUND HERE.

SO THE PARENTS ARE AFRAID

FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

Reporter: IT WOULD

SEEM THAT YOU COULD BE A

MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE

COUNTRY, BETWEEN JEWS,

ARABS, WHATEVER.

IS THAT TRUE?

HOPEFULLY.

I THINK SO.

OF COURSE.

IN MY APARTMENT, THE

NEXT DOOR IS ARAB PEOPLE,

AND WE HAVE A GOOD

RELATIONSHIP.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT

ALL.

Reporter: ARE YOU

SURPRISED BY HOW EFFECTIVE

YOU GUYS ARE?

I'M NOT SURPRISED.

I HELPED TO BE PART OF THE

SYSTEM HERE THAT SENDS A

MESSAGE TO EVERYONE.

PEOPLE REMEMBER THIS PLACE

FROM BAD TIMES, HARSH

TIMES, WHEN THINGS WERE

ROUGH, OR BAD PUBLICITY IN

THE NEWS.

BUT NO ONE REALLY COMES

HERE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS,

SO THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW.

Reporter: THAT'S WHY

WE'RE HERE.

NOW MAYBE WE'LL CHANGE

SOMETHING BECAUSE I THINK

THAT PEOPLE REALLY THINK

THAT IT IS A VERY HARD --

OR NOT A SAFE PLACE, BUT

THAT IS NOT TRUE.

Reporter: CHANCELLOR

UGOU ORGAD CREDITS THE

UNIVERSITY'S SUCCESS TO

CREATING AN INFORMAL

ATMOSPHERE WHERE STUDENTS

SEE EACH OTHER EYE TO EYE.

DO YOU HAVE MANY CONFLICTS

HERE IN THE UNIVERSITY?

THANK GOD, NOT AT ALL.

THERE WAS NO ONE EVENING

OR ONE DAY OF TENSION

BETWEEN JEWS AND ARABS

THAT STUDY HERE.

Reporter: DESPITE ITS

CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH AND

PASTORAL SETTING, SOME SEE

ARIEL UNIVERSITY AS A

CONTROVERSIAL PLACE.

HAVE YOU HAD PROBLEMS WITH

THE INTERNATIONAL

COMMUNITY OR WITH OTHER

ISRAELIS?

WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS

WITH OTHER UNIVERSITIES

AND RESEARCH INSTITUTES.

WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS WITH

MANY GOVERNMENTS, FIRST OF

ALL IN EUROPE AND PART OF

THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT,

I.E., THE STATE DEPARTMENT

THAT TRIES TO BOYCOTT US,

FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY.

Reporter: WHY?

BECAUSE THEY THINK WE

DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT, AS

JEWS, TO LIVE HERE IN

SOMALIA.

Reporter: DO YOU HAVE

HOPE FOR THE FUTURE FOR

PEACE FOR ISRAEL?

I'M SURE ONE DAY WE ARE

GOING TO HAVE PEACE WITH

OUR ARAB NEIGHBORS, BASED

ON THE UNDERSTANDING THAT

TO STAY, WE HAVE TO FIND A

WAY TO DEAL IN PEACE.

Reporter: SCOTT ROSS,

ARIEL UNIVERSITY, SAMARIA.

Gordon: AN EXAMPLE TO

US ALL OF HOW YOU CAN

ACHIEVE PEACE IN THE

MIDDLE EAST.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO

BE INFORMED.

IF YOU WANT TO GET THE

LATEST INFORMATION FROM

ISRAEL, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO

IS GO TO OUR WEBSITE:

cbnnews.com.

CLICK ON "INSIDE ISRAEL,"

AND THERE YOU'LL GET THE

LATEST UPDATES AND STORIES

FROM OUR ISRAELI BUREAU.

BE INFORMED.

WE HAVE SO MANY HEADLINES

COMING OUT ABOUT THE

MIDDLE EAST, AND BE

INFORMED ABOUT HOW DID

ISRAEL COME TO BE?

WHAT ARE THE INTERNAL

TENSIONS THERE NOW?

WHAT ARE ARE THE MAJOR

TIDES, IF YOU WILL, MOVING

THROUGH THAT SOCIETY?

WHAT IS ALL OF THIS ABOUT

THE WEST BANK AND THE

BOYCOTT, DIVESTMENT,

SANCTION MOVEMENT?

BE INFORMED ABOUT IT

BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO

SAY, WHAT ARE THE ROOT

CAUSES HERE?

WHAT HAPPENED?

WHAT IS THE HISTORY?

WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL

SOLUTIONS?

AND WE ALL NEED TO PRAY

FOR THE PIECE OF

JERUSALEM.

WELL, WE ARE "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," AND WE WANT

TO INTERACT WITH YOU.

SO LET'S GO OVER TO

JESSICA IN CHAT AND SEE

WHAT IS HAPPENING ONLINE.

GORDON, WE HAVE A FEW

QUESTIONS.

THIS ONE SAYS, "I LOVE AND

SUPPORT ISRAEL, BUT THERE

ARE SOME THINGS I'M

CONFUSED ABOUT, SHOULDN'T

WE LOVE GENTILES,

INCLUDING PALESTINIANS,

JUST AS WE LOVE THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

SHOULDN'T WE ALSO BE

PASSIONATE ABOUT BEING

CHRIST-LIKE TO THE

PALESTINIANS?

I BELIEVE GOD DESIRES

THEIR SALVATION AS MUCH AS

HE DOES THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

AM I WRONG ABOUT THIS?"

Gordon: YOU ARE

EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT THIS.

GOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT ALL

OF HIS CHILDREN.

HE DESIRES THAT NONE

SHOULD PERISH, BUT ALL

SHOULD COME TO THE SAVING

KNOWLEDGE OF HIM.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE

SAYS.

AND PAUL ADDS TO IT.

HE SAYS THAT HE PRAYS FOR

ALL MEN EVERYWHERE.

AND WHEN YOU START

UNDERSTANDING THAT, AND

THEN UNDERSTANDING GOD'S

HEART, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT

PRAY FOR PEOPLE.

AND YOU CAN'T HELP BUT

HELP PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF

THEIR IDEOLOGY, REGARDLESS

OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

GOD LOVES THEM, AND WE

SHOULD LOVE THEM, TOO.

YES, ISRAEL HAS A SPECIAL

PLACE, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT

BIBLE VERSES, "MANY ARE

CALLED, FEW ARE CHOSEN."

AND THAT'S SPECIFIC THAT

THEY WERE CHOSEN TO CARRY

THE ORICLES OF GOD.

GOD COMMUNICATED THE BIBLE

THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE,

THROUGH THE PROPHETS.

AND TODAY THEY ARE THE

CHILDREN OF THE PROPHETS.

AND SO WE HONOR THEM.

AND WE HONOR WHAT GOD DID

FOR THEM.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED

TO LOVE EVERYONE.

SO DO THAT.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

LET'S GO BACK TO JESSICA

FOR ONE MORE QUESTION.

WELL, GORDON, JOHN

SAYS, "I JUST WATCHED THE

PIECE ABOUT THE LAND

CLAIMS IN PALESTINE.

HOW SHOULD WE, AS

CHRISTIANS, PRAY FOR

PALESTINE?

HOW DO WE PRAY FOR THE

JEWS?"

GORDON?

Gordon: WHEN PRAYING

SPECIFICALLY FOR

PALESTINE, PRAY FOR PEACE.

THE BIBLE SAYS PRAY FOR

THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

AND WHEN YOU PRAY WITH

THAT, YOU'RE COMING INTO

ACCORD WITH WHAT THE BIBLE

COMMANDS US TO DO.

PRAY FOR THE PALESTINIANS.

PRAY FOR THEIR HEARTS TO

TURN, THAT THEY COULD LIVE

IN PEACE.

PRAYER FOR THE JEWISH

PEOPLE, THAT THEY WOULD

NOT LOSE HOPE AND LOSE

FAITH.

THAT THEY WOULD REMAIN

ESTABLISHED.

BUT PRAY ESPECIALLY THAT

THERE WOULD BE PEACE

THERE.

I THINK THE MORE THAT WE

WORK TOWARDS PEACE, AND

NOT TOWARDS VIOLENCE, NOT

TOWARDS TERRORISM, NOT

TOWARDS PROTEST, BUT HOW

CAN WE LIVE IN PEACE, HOW

CAN WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR

AS OURSELVES, PRAY THAT

AND PRAY IT SPECIFICALLY

AND REPEATEDLY, AND YOU

WILL FULFILL THIS

COMMANDMENT.

WELL, THIS IS ALL OF THE

TIME WE HAVE.

AND THE CLOSING VERSE IS

THAT SAME COMMANDMENT.

IT'S FROM PSALM 122: "O

JERUSALEM, MAY THERE BE

PEACE WITHIN YOUR WALLS

AND PROSPERITY IN YOUR

PALACES.

FOR THE SAKE OF MY FAMILY

AND FRIENDS, I WILL SAY

MAY YOU HAVE PEACE."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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