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The 700 Club - September 1, 2015

Author Hugh Ross, Ph.D. is setting out to prove that science supports the Biblical story of Earth’s creation. Plus, Pamela was losing her hearing and prayed for a miracle. Read Transcript


A REVIVAL AT AN

UNLIKELY PLACE.

I WAS, LIKE, MAN, THIS

GUY IS LEGIT.

Wendy: THIS PREACHER

IS HEADING INTO THE PUBLIC

SCHOOLS.

THIS GANG-BANGER SAYS,

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO BE

SAVED?

Wendy: AND THE ADMEN

ARE CHEERING HIM ON.

PLUS...DOES SCIENCE

ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE

BIBLE?

ONE ASTRO PHYSICIST HAS

EVIDENCE THAT COULD END

THE DEBATE ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

TERRY, IF YOU WERE GOING

TO NAME A CHEVROLET S.U.V.

THAT WAS REAL FANCY, WHAT

WOULD YOU CALL IT?

Terry: I'D HAVE TO

THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE

I'D WANT SOMETHING REALLY

CREATED.

Pat: IT IS CALLED AN

DENALI.

Terry: A DENALI.

Pat: AND GUESS WHAT?

WE JUST NAMED THE HIGHEST

PEAK IN NORTH AMERICA --

Terry: VERY CREATIVE.

Pat: A DENALI, SO IT

IS A BIG CHEVROLET,

INSTEAD OF MT. MCKINLEY,

AND THE PEOPLE IN OHIO ARE

FURIOUS BECAUSE THEY HAVE

TAKEN AWAY THEIR

PRESIDENT.

ANYHOW, IF YOU WANT TO

CLIMB ONE -- I DON'T KNOW

IF K-2 -- I HAVE A JACKET,

BUT THAT'S THE FARTHEST

I'M GOING UP THE SLOPES.

LET ME ASK YOU

SOMETHING ELSE THE

PRESIDENT DID, I IS THE END

OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

AS HAND BECAUSE OF GLOBAL

WARMING?

THAT'S WHAT OUR PRESIDENT

SAID.

HE SCARED THE DAY LIGHTS

OUT OF US.

I'M SURE WE NEED MASSIVE

GOVERNMENT SPENDING

BECAUSE WHOLE COUNTRIES

WILL BE UNDER WATER.

YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE

GASPING FOR BREATH, AND

THEY'LL BE FLOATING IN

FROZEN ICE THAT IS NOW

MELTING.

THE PROBLEM IS THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE JUST

NOT WORRIED.

AND A LOT PEOPLE -- AND

I'M ONE OF THEM -- JUST

DOESN'T BUY IT.

Terry: THE PRESIDENT

SPOKE IN ALASKA ON CLIMATE

CHANGE, AND HE SAYS IT IS

THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE

UNITED STATES, AS DALE

HURD HAS THE STORY.

Reporter: THE TRIP IS

INTENDED TO REFOCUS

ATTENTION ON BLIEMENT CLIMATE

CHANGE.

PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYS IF

THE CLIMATE ISN'T DEALT

WITH FAST, ENTIRE

COUNTRIES COULD END UP

UNDER WATER.

President Obama: THE

FACT IS CLIMATE IS

CHANGING FASTER THAN OUR

EFFORTS TO ADDRESS IT.

THAT, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, MUST CHANGE.

WE'RE NOT ACTING FAST

ENOUGH.

Reporter: THE

PRESIDENT SAYS THE SCIENCE

OF CLIMATE CHANGE GETS

CLEARER EVERY DAY AND

PROVES IT IS NO LONGER A

DISTANT THREAT.

AND THE PRESIDENT IS

CORRECT THAT ALASKA'S

CLIMATE IS CHANGING.

SUMMER SNOW IS FORECAST

FOR THIS FRIDAY.

ALASKA'S CLIMATE HAS BEEN

CHANGING FOR A LONG TIME.

THE POSTER CHILD FOR

CLIMATE CHANGE IN ALASKA,

THE MENDENHAL GLACIER,

WHICH IS MELTING, WAS

ALREADY MELTING IN THE

1700s, AND ACCORDING TO

SCIENTISTS RETREATED ONE

MILE BY THE 1900s.

SOME SAY ALASKA HAS BEEN

WARMING RECENTLY BECAUSE

OF A REVERSAL IN THE

PACIFIC DECATAL

OSKILLATION.

STILL, MR. OBAMA SEEMED TO

WARN HIS POLITICAL

OPPONENTS NOT TO IGNORE

WHAT HE HAS CALLED THE

NUMBER ONE THREAT TO THE

UNITED STATES: CLIMATE

CHANGE.

President Obama: ANY

SO-CALLED LEADER WHO DOES

NOT TAKE THIS ISSUE

SERIOUSLY OR TREATS IT

LIKE A JOKE, IS NOT FIT TO

LEAD.

ON THIS ISSUE, OF ALL

ISSUES, THERE IS SUCH A

THING AS BEING TOO LATE.

THAT MOMENT IS ALMOST UPON

US.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE

TODAY.

Reporter: BUT REGULAR

AMERICANS DO NOT TAKE THE

ISSUE SERIOUSLY.

A GALLOP POLL THIS YEAR

ABOUT THE ISSUES AMERICANS

ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT

HAD CLIMATE CHANGE DEAD

LAST.

DALE HURD, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, YOU KNOW,

IF THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO

DO SOMETHING, HE'S GOT TO

FORCE CHINA AND INDIA INTO

THE FOLD BECAUSE THEY ARE

THE BIG POLLUTERS.

IT IS NOT THE UNITED

STATES.

BUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS

MAKE A MAJOR GRAB TO TAKE

OVER MORE OF AMERICAN

INDUSTRY.

HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE

COAL INDUSTRY.

HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE

GAS-POWERED ELECTRIC

INDUSTRY.

HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE

MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES.

HE WANTS THE GOVERNMENT TO

CONTROL IT ALL.

AND IT WILL BE IN THE NAME

OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

I'M GOING TO KEEP YOU FROM

THIS HORRIBLE THING THAT

IS LURKING AT YOUR

DOORSTEP.

IT IS ALL SMOKE SCREEN TO

MASK A -- WELL, AN

INTERVENTIONIST AGENDA.

HE HAS TRIED TO TAKE OVER

THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY,

AND HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD

JOB OF TAKING IT OVER.

HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE

FINANCIAL INDUSTRY.

HE WANTS CONTROL OF

EVERYTHING.

THAT IS THE PROGRESSIVE

AGENDA.

SO, ANYHOW, THAT'S THE WAY

IT IS.

> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

PEOPLE WERE WARNING, THE

RECENT SUPREME COURT

DECISION GIVING

CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION

TO THE MARRIAGE OF TWO

HOMOSEXUAL MEN OR TWO

LESBIAN WOMEN, THAT WAS

QUESTIONABLE.

AND CHIEF JUDGE ROBERTS

SAID IT VERY WELL: WHO DO

WE THINK WE ARE COMING

DOWN WITH SOMETHING THAT

HAS BEEN AN ESTABLISHED

NORM OF SOCIETY FOR

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF

YEARS?

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN

TO SEE THE FALLOUT AS

THERE WILL BE PERSECUTION

TIME AND TIME AGAIN

AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE WHO

DISAGREE WITH THE

PREVAILING VIEW THAT

SODOMY TO BE THE LAW OF

THE LAND AND SHOULD BE

PRACTICED OPENLY AND

WITHOUT ANY RESTRAINTS

WHATSOEVER.

WELL, A CHRISTIAN CLERK IN

KENTUCKY IS STILL DEFYING

A BAN, THAT SHE WILL NOT

GIVE LICENSES TO SAME-SEX

COUPLES.

BUT THE SUPREME COURT JUST

RULED AGAINST HER.

AND JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT

STORY.

Joseph: THAT'S RIGHT,

PAT.

THE CONTINUED REFUSAL TO

ISSUE MARRIAGE LICENSES

COMES AFTER THE SUPREME

COURT RULED AGAINST THE

KENTUCKY COUNTY CLERK, WHO

STOPPED ISSUELY THEM

BECAUSE OF HER CHRISTIAN

CONVICTIONS AND OPPOSITION

TO GAY MARRIAGE.

THE CLERK'S OFFICE DENIED

MARRIAGE LICENSES TO

SAME-SEX COUPLES.

KIM DAVIS HAD STOPPED

ISSUELISSUING ALL MARRIAGE

LICENSES AFTER THE SUPREME

COURT LEGALIZED GAY

MARRIAGE.

HER REFUSAL MEANS SHE

COULD FACE FINES OR EVEN

JAIL TIME.

DAVIS' ATTORNEY SAYS SHE

IS AWARE OF THE

CONSEQUENCES.

> THE STATE DEPARTMENT

HAS RELEASED 7,000 MORE OF

HILLARY CLINTON'S E-MAILS,

AND MORE THAN 125 OF THEM

CONTAIN CENSORED,

CLASSIFIED MATERIAL.

THE E-MAILS COME FROM

CLINTON'S TENURE AS

SECRETARY OF STATE, WHEN

SHE USED A PERSONAL E-MAIL

SERVER, INSTEAD OF SENDING

THEM THROUGH PROTECTED

STATE DEPARTMENT METHODS.

THE ISSUE HAS HURT

MRS. CLINTON BADLY IN THE

POLLS, WITH VOTERS

FREQUENTLY DESCRIBING HER

AS A LIAR AND DISHONEST.

PAT?

Pat: THERE WILL BE A

CONTINUOUS DRIP OF THOSE

DOCUMENTS, AS THEY'RE

RELEASED EVERY MONTH OR

SO.

HER CAMPAIGN IS IN

TATTERS.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE

IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT BACK

ON TRACK.

I DON'T SEE HOW SHE IS

GOING TO DO IT.

BUT THE THING MAYBE

THEY'RE TRYING TO COVER

UP -- AND IT WOULD BE

DEVASTATING IF IT IS

TRUE -- DID SHE, AS

SECRETARY OF STATE,

SOLICIT GIFTS TO THE

CLINTON FOUNDATION FROM

COUNTRIES WITH WHOM SHE

WAS DEALING?

WITH SOVEREIGN FUNDS, ETC.

THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW

AND WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT.

> WELL, THERE IS GOOD

NEWS FOR A DEAR FRIEND OF

OURS, GOVERNOR BOB

McDONALD OF VIRGINIA.

THE SUPREME COURT RULED IN

HIS FAVOR IN A MATTER.

IT IS JUST A MINOR MATTER,

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

JOHN?

John: PAT, FORMER

VIRGINIA GOVERNOR BOB

McDONALD WILL NOT HAVE

TO GO TO PRISON WHILE THE

SUPREME COURT CONSIDERS

WHETHER TO REVIEW HIS

APPEAL ON CORRUPTION.

IT OVERRULES A LOWER COURT

DECISION THAT HE WOULD

HAVE TO REPORT TO PRISON.

McDONALD HAS UNTIL EARLY

NOVEMBER TO ASK THE HIGH

COURT TO CONSIDER HIS

CASE.

HE AND HIS WIFE WERE

ACCUSED OF GRANTING FAVORS

FOR WEALTHY BUSINESSES IN

EXCHANGE FOR GIFTS AND

HOPE.

> MARK LEVINE, THE

POPULAR RADIO SHOW HOST

AND AUTHOR HAS WARNINGS.

THE GOVERNMENT IN

WASHINGTON IS GETTING TOO

BIG AND OPPRESSIVE, AND HE

SAYS IT IS TAKING AWAY

YOUR FUTURE.

AND IT APPEARS PEOPLE ARE

LISTENING.

HIS BOOK HAS HIT NUMBER

ONE ON THE "NEW YORK

TIMES" BEST-SELLER LOOK.

DAVID BRODY RECENTLY SAT

DOWN WITH HIM FOR A CLOSER

LOOK AT HIS LATEST

MESSAGE.

David: ON THE RADIO,

MARK LEVINE PULLS NO

PUNCHES WITH HIS

LISTENERS.

WE'RE FIGHTING FOR THE

CONSTITUTION.

WHAT ARE THEY FIGHTING

FOR?

TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY FROM

US.

David: IN HIS LATEST

BOOK "PLUNDER AND DECEIT,"

HE HAS A WARNING FOR

AMERICA, TAKING DIRECT AIM

AT WHAT HE SAYS IS A

GROWING POWERFUL FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT.

IT IS TRANSITIONING

INTO SOMETHING THAT IS

MORE OPPRESSIVE AND

COERCIVE, AND IT IS

TRANSITIONING INTO

SOMETHING THAT IS NOT

CONSTITUTIONAL.

David: HE SAYS IT IS

THE NEXT GENERATION THAT

WILL BE IN THE

CROSS-HAIRS.

THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE

BOOK, A CLINICAL FACTUAL

DISECTION OF HOW LIBERAL

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

POLICIES ARE RUINING THE

FUTURE.

FUTURE GENERATIONS

DON'T PHONE.

THEY DON'T EXIST YET.

SO THEY KEEP STEALING FROM

THEM AND ROBBING FROM

THEM.

WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING

TO HAVE LIMITED LIBERTY,

LIMITED OPPORTUNITY AND

LIMITED WEALTH CREATION.

AND WE'RE SPENDING IT ALL

TODAY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS

REALLY UNBELIEVABLE, THAT

WE ARE STEALING FROM

UNBORN BABIES.

David: ONE OF

LEVINE'S EXAMPLES OF THE

DANGERS AMERICA AND THE

NEXT GENERATION FACE:

SOCIAL SECURITY.

IT NEEDS STRUCTURAL

CHANGES TO SURVIVE, AND

WHILE SOLUTIONS TO CHANGE

IT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR

YEARS, NOTHING IS BEING

DONE.

NOT ONLY THAT, LEVINE LAYS

OUT THE CASE THAT SOCIAL

SECURITY IS ALREADY

TECHNICALLY BANKRUPT.

I DON'T EVEN THINK

PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE THESE

BENEFITS KNOW WHAT IS

GOING ON.

MANY DON'T KNOW THAT THE

MONEY DOESN'T EXIST.

ALL OF THAT MONEY THEY

PAID INTO THE SYSTEM,

THERE IS NO SYSTEM.

THAT MONEY WAS TAKEN AND

SPENT THE SECOND IT WAS

TAKEN ON OTHER GOVERNMENT

PROJECTS AND OTHER

GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.

David: SO WHERE DOES

THIS LEAVE THE NEXT

GENERATION?

WHAT CAN BE DONE?

HOW DO YOU GET YOUNGER

AMERICANS, THE NEXT

GENERATION, IF YOU WILL,

INVOLVED IN THESE ISSUES

AND TO TAKE NOTICE OF WHAT

IS GOING ON IN THIS

COUNTRY?

ONE AT A TIME.

THERE ARE MILLIONS AND

MILLIONS OF PARENTS AND

GRANDPARENTS KNOW EXACTLY

WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS

COUNTRY, AND THEY KNOW, AS

I KNOW, INTUITIVELY, AND

THROUGH INTELLECT, THAT

THE COUNTRY IS HEADED IN A

VERY BAD PLACE.

AND IT IS MOVING THERE

VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

David: LEVINE SEE IN THE HOME, DURING THE

HOLIDAYS, AT THE DINNER

TABLE, AT THE BREAKFAST

TABLE, IF THEY'RE YOUNGER,

WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR

KIDS TO BED -- THOSE ARE

THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE

AS PARENTS AND

GRANDPARENTS HAVE MORE

INFLUENCE ON OUR CHILDREN

AND GRANDCHILDREN THAN WE

COULD POSSIBLY KNOW.

David: HE BELIEVES

CHANGE WON'T COME FROM

WASHINGTON.

JUST LIKE IN REVOLUTIONARY

WAR DAYS, CHANGE COMES

FROM WE, THE PEOPLE,

BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IDEAS

STIR UP ACTION THAT LEAD

TO CONSEQUENCES.

I THINK TENS OF

MILLIONS OF US ARE

EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT

WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS

GOING.

MAYBE WE'RE IN THE

MAJORITY, MAYBE NOT.

BUT THERE ARE TENS OF

MILLIONS OF US, AND THAT'S

A BIG ARMY OF PEOPLE.

IF TENS OF MILLIONS OF US

REALLY TAKE THIS

SERIOUSLY, YOU DON'T KNOW

WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THIS.

David: DAVID BRODY,

CBN NEWS, WASHINGTON.

John: THANKS, DAVID.

PAT, THAT'S A REALLY

ENGAGING CONVERSATION.

Pat: IT IS A CALL TO

ACTION BY A VERY

ARTICULATE GENTLEMAN.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE

17,000 PEOPLE IN THE

REVOLUTION THAT OVERTURNED

THE CZARIST REGIME OF

RUSSIA.

IT DOESN'T TAKE A HUGE

ARMY.

IT TAKES A GROUP OF

DEDICATED PEOPLE TO A

CAUSE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS.

AND IN THE CASE OF

AMERICA, THE CAUSE IS

RIGHTEOUS.

THIS GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF

CONTROL.

WE'VE LOST THE

CONSTITUTION.

WE'VE LOST THE BIBLICAL

FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY.

OUR COURTS HAVE DONE ER

IRREPARABLE HARM TO THE

MORAL FABRIC OF THIS

NATION.

THEY HAVE GIVEN US AS MANY

AS 55 MILLION ABORTIONS.

THE SLAUGHTER HAS BEEN

UNPARALLELLED.

THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING

OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.

THIS WASTING OF

RESOURCES -- IT GOES SO

FAST IT IS HARD TO KEEP UP

WITH.

IT USED TO BE

$17 TRILLION, AND NOW I

THINK IT IS $18 TRILLION

AND MOUNTING AS FAST AS IT

CAN.

AND NOBODY IS STOPPING IT.

TERRY, YOU'RE THE YOUNGER

GENERATION.

I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO

DO SOMETHING.

Terry: VERY YOUNG.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: HERE IS A

GLIMMER OF HOPE FOR YOU.

COMING UP, WE'RE GOING TO

TAKE YOU TO THE HOTTEST

CLUB ON CAMPUS, THE BIBLE

CLUB.

THE PRINCIPALS PULLED

ME INTO THEIR OFFICE AND

HE SAYS, WHATEVER YOUR

DOING, KEEP DOING IT

BECAUSE GANGS HAVE BEEN

COMING TO OUR COUNSELLING

OFFICES SAYING, WE DON'T

WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR

GANG NO MORE.

HELP US.

Terry: MEET THE MAN

BEHIND "ONE VOICE,

OPPORTUNITY MISSION," AND

SEE HOW HE IS LEADING A

REVIVAL ACROSS

CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC

SCHOOLS.

Pat: IT IS BACK TO

SCHOOL TIME ACROSS THE

NATION, AND FOR THOUSANDS

OF STUDENTS IN PUBLIC

SCHOOLS IN CALIFORNIA,

THAT NOT ONLY MEANS BACK

TO CLASS, BUT BACK TO

BIBLE CLUBS.

THOSE CLUBS ARE GROWING

ACROSS THE GROWING STATE,

AND SAVING SOME TEENAGERS

FROM GANGS, DRUGS, AND

EVEN DEATH.

OUR EFREM GRAHAM WENT OUT

TO TAKE A LOOK.

AND HERE IS WHAT HE CALLED

A HIGH SCHOOL REVIVAL.

Efrem: CALIFORNIA,

BEST KNOWN FOR ITS SANDY

BEACHES, MOVIE-MAKING, AND

HOLLYWOOD'S RICH AND

FAMOUS.

THIS MAN IS PRAYING FOR

THE GOLDEN STATE TO BE

KNOWN FOR A GREAT REVIVAL.

BRIAN BARCELONA SPEAKS AT

HIGH SCHOOL BIBLE CLUB

MEETINGS, AND STUDENTS ARE

PAYING ST-JEAN.

ATTENTION.

GANG-BANGERS INCLUDED.

THERE WAS THIS AWKWARD

PAUSE IN THE ROOM AND THIS

GANG-BANGER STANDS ON HIS

FEET, AND HE SAID, WHAT DO

I HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED.

THE PRINCIPALS PULLED ME

INTO THEIR OFFICES, AND HE

SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

YOU'RE SAYING AND DOING IN

THESE MEETINGS, BUT

WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING,

KEEP DOING IT.

BECAUSE GANGS ARE COMING

TO OUR COUNSELLING OFFICES

SAYING, WE DON'T WANT TO

BE.

Pam: OBE PART OF OUR GANGS KNOW

MORE.

HELP US.

SO LITERALLY, WHAT "ONE

VOICE" DOES IS COME

ALONGSIDE THE STUDENT AND

SAY, WHAT ARE YOUR DREAMS?

IF MONEY WASN'T AN ISSUE,

IF TIME WASN'T AN ISSUE,

WHAT WOULD YOU BELIEVE FOR

GOD TO DO IN YOUR SCHOOL?

Efrem: IN SIX YEARS,

GOD HAS GROWN BRIAN'S

REACH FROM ONE SCHOOL TO

MORE THAN 20, AND

THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS.

THAT WAS AWESOME.

I WAS, LIKE, MAN THIS GUY

IS LEGIT.

THE BIGGEST CHANGE, I

WOULD SAY MY ATTITUDE.

BECAUSE I USED TO EITHER

LET THINGS GET TO ME --

I ASKED HIM TO PRAY FOR

ME, AND LIKE THERE I CRIED

SO MUCH.

I KNEW THAT I WAS DOING SO

WRONG.

Efrem: HUNDREDS

ATTEND BIBLE CLUB MEETINGS

AS ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL.

ONE OF THE ONLY SCHOOLS

WITH A PLANNED PARENTHOOD

CLINIC ON TYPE.

FREE PIZZA DRAWS IN SOME

FIRST-TIMERS.

BUT THE MESSAGE BRIAN

PREACHES KEEPS THEM COMING

BACK.

HE ENCOURAGED ME TO

SEEK GOD MORE AND TO SEEK

THIS DEEPER RELATIONSHIP.

AND I REALLY LEARNED A LOT

AND GAINED WISDOM FROM

THEIR TEACHINGS.

I LOVE THAT THEY BRING

JESUS INTO MY LIFE BECAUSE

NOW I'M SO MUCH MORE

POSITIVE, THE WAY I SEE

THINGS, THAN BEFORE.

I LOVE BIBLE STUDY.

LITTLE BY LITTLE,

COMING TO THE LOVE CLUB,

PRAYING AND WORSHIPPING,

IT HAS HELPED ME, LIKE,

FIND MYSELF.

Efrem: BIBLE CLUB

LESSONS AT ONE SCHOOL LED

STUDENTS TO TAKE A TRIP TO

THE BEACH TO BE BAPTIZED.

MANY PEOPLE WOULD SAY, AND

YOU HINTED AT THIS, HOW ON

EARTH IS THIS HAPPENING IN

A PUBLIC SCHOOL?

WELL, EVERY SCHOOL IS

ALLOWED CLUBS, THE CHESS

CLUB, ISLAM CLUB, CATHOLIC

CLUB, MATH CLUB.

THERE ARE ALSO BIBLE

CLUBS.

THE WHOLE THING IS IT HAS

TO BE STUDENT-LED.

Efrem: SOME SCHOOL

STAFF MEMBERS EMBRACE THE

CLUBS BECAUSE THEY SEE

IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR

STUDENTS' ATTITUDES,

BEHAVIORS, AND GRADES.

BRIAN HAS SEEN EVEN BIGGER

CHANGES.

THERE WAS AN ANONYMOUS

LETTER LEFT IN THE

CLASSROOM WE WERE MEETING

IN, TO THE BIBLE GUY WHO

PREACHED -- THEY DIDN'T

EVEN KNOW MY NAME.

IT READ "YESTERDAY NIGHT,

I WAS PLANNING ON KILLING

MYSELF.

BUT DURING SCHOOL I WENT

TO YOUR MEETING, AND I

FOUND HOPE, AND TODAY I'M

ALIVE."

Efrem: THE LETTER HIT

HOME.

IT WAS ALSO A YOUTH GROUP

MEETING THAT SAVED BRIAN'S

LIFE WHEN HE WAS 16.

WERE YOU A CHRISTIAN IN

HIGH SCHOOL?

I WAS NOT UNTIL MY

SENIOR YEAR.

Efrem: WHAT HAPPENED?

MY SENIOR YEAR, I WAS

AN ATHEIST BEFORE THAT,

DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD.

I HAD SEEN SO MUCH

HYPOCRISY IN THE CHURCH

GROWING UP.

MY FAMILY USED TO GO, AND

THEN THEY STOPPED.

I THOUGHT, THERE IS NO WAY

THERE COULD BE A GOD.

I MOVED IN WITH MY MOM,

AND RAN INTO AN OLD-TIME

FRIEND NAMED ALBERT.

HE STARTS INVITING ME

EVERY WEEK TO THE YOUTH

GROUP.

FINALLY HE SAYS, IF YOU

COME TO THE YOUTH GROUP

TONIGHT, I WILL BUY YOU A

JAMBA JUICE.

I SAID, FREE JAMBA JUICE,

WHAT TIME ARE YOU GOING TO

PICK ME UP.

I STOOD UP IN THAT CHURCH

AND I SAID, JESUS, I DON'T

KNOW IF YOU'RE REAL.

I'VE HEARD YOU DIED ON THE

CROSS, BUT IF YOU'RE REAL,

I DARE YOU TO TOUCH ME.

AS SOON AS I SAID THAT, I

FELT THIS CRAZY LOVE COME

OVER MY BODY.

AND I JUST STARTED

WEEPING.

Efrem: THE ATHEIST

BECOME A BELIEVER, AND GOD

HAS USED BRIAN TO REACH

YOUNG PEOPLE SINCE THAT

DAY.

HE SAYS IT IS NOT BECAUSE

HE IS GOOD, BUT BECAUSE HE

IS AVAILABLE.

EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, THE JESUS

MOVEMENT STARTED IN

CALIFORNIA AND SPREAD

ACROSS AMERICA.

MAYBE IT WILL HAPPEN

AGAIN.

LET US FERVENTLY HOPE SO.

TERRY?

Terry: STILL AHEAD,

HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED HOW

OLD OR HOW BIG THE

UNIVERSE IS?

ONE EXPERT WEIGHS IN.

BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THAT,

CHRONIC EAR PAIN IS CURED

AFTER NEARLY 10 YEARS.

BEING ABLE TO HEAR

TODAY, I LOVE HEARING WILD

NOISES OR JUST KIDS JUST

BEING KIDS.

I LOVE IT.

Terry: FIND OUT HOW

SHE STAVED OFF HEARING

LOSS.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: YOU'RE WATCHING

"THE 700 CLUB," AND WE'RE

GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

REMEMBER, HUGH ROSS IS

COMING UP, TALKING ABOUT

THE UNIVERSE.

I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS I

WANT TO ASK THIS NOTED

ASTROPHYSICIST.

I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT

FASCINATING.

FIRST OF ALL, HAVE YOU

EVER HAD THAT ANNOYING

RINGING IN YOUR EARS.

PAMELA EDWARDS KNOWS THE

FEELING.

SHE SUFFERED WITH IT FOR

10 LONG YEARS.

IN FACT, IT GOT SO BAD

THAT SHE SPENT HER DAYS

FEELING DIZZY AND

DISORIENTED.

AND SHE WAS ALSO LOSING

HER HEARING, UNTIL SHE

HEARD TERRY, ON THIS

PROGRAM, GIVE A WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE.

I HAD TO KEEP ASKING

PEOPLE, HUH?

THEY WOULD TALK, AND I

COULDN'T REALLY HEAR THEM.

IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY

SOFT.

Reporter: BEFORE SHE

STARTED HAVING HEARING

LOSS, PAMELA EDWARDS HAD

BEEN DEALING WITH EAR PAIN

FOR YEARS.

SHE REMEMBERS WHEN IT

STARTED.

IT WAS JUST AN ACHE,

JUST A REAL SLOW ACHE IN

MY LEFT EAR.

I WENT TO THE PHYSICIAN,

AND HE WAS, LIKE, LET'S

UNPLUG THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLEAN

YOUR EAR OUT.

IT SEEMED LIKE NOTHING

HAPPENED.

HE CLEANED IT, AND I WAS

OKAY, I GOT MY EARS

CLEANED.

I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF

IT.

I JUST GOT MY EARS

CLEANED.

Reporter: THE PAIN

WOULD COME AND GO WITH THE

SEASONS.

THE WEATHER WOULD

CHANGE, LIKE SUMMER, AND

EVERYTHING WAS FINE.

BUT IT PROGRESSIVELY GOT

WORSE AND WORSE OVER THE

PERIOD OF TIME.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY,

SHE STARTED HAVING

PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING

PEOPLE.

IF THEY WERE ON MY LEFT

SIDE OF ME, I COULDN'T

REALLY HEAR.

I HAD TO LOOK AT THEM IN

THE FACE.

THAT'S WHEN I STARTED

READING THEIR LIPS.

Reporter: THEN IN

JUNE 2015, SHE TURNED ON

"THE 700 CLUB."

SO I STOPPED WHAT I WAS

DOING, AND I DID TURN IT

UP.

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO

COME TIME FOR THE PRAYER.

AND TERRY, SHE HAD A WORD

OF KNOWLEDGE.

Terry: YOU'VE BEEN

EXPERIENCING DEAFNESS IN

ONE OF YOUR EARS, BUT JUST

A LOSS OF HEARING THAT IS

GRADUALLY GETTING WORSE.

GOD IS HEALING THAT

CONDITION FOR YOU.

YOU'RYOUR EARS WILL SUDDENLY

OPEN AND YOU'LL HAVE CLEAR

HEARING AGAIN.

I SAID, I TAKE THAT AS

MINE AND I RECEIVE IT IN

THE NAME OF JESUS. AND MY

EARS STARTED POPPING.

YOU KNOW, LIKE A POPCORN,

BUT NOT THAT FREQUENTLY,

BUT JUST A POP.

AND IT JUST POPPED.

Reporter: HER HEARING

IMPROVED EVERY DAY.

SHE REALIZED HER HEARING

HAD BEEN RESTORED.

SINCE THEN, PAMELA HAS HAD

NO EARACHES, AND SHE CAN

HEAR EVERYTHING JUST FINE.

BEING ABLE TO HEAR

TODAY, I LOVE HEARING LOUD

NOISES OR JUST KIDS BEING

KIDS.

I LOVE IT.

DON'T GIVE UP IN PRAYING

AND BELIEVING GOD.

BECAUSE GOD'S WORK IS

TRUE.

REGARDLESS IF YOU DON'T

SEE ANYTHING, YOU CONFESS

THE WORD OF GOD AND IT

WILL HAPPEN.

Pat: WELL, IT'S GOING

TO HAPPEN FOR YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PRAYING

FOR PEOPLE IN JUST A

MOMENT.

HERE IS SOMEBODY, LYDIA,

LIVES IN THE CITY OF

FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA.

SHE HAD PROBLEMS IN HER

LEGS.

THE DOCTOR SAID, KEEP YOUR

LEGS ELEVATED.

TERRY HAD THIS WORD,

"SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM

WITH YOUR VEINS.

YOUR SKIN IS GOING TO

RETURN TO NORMAL."

OLIVIA CLAIMED THE WORD

AND THE BLOTCHES

DISAPPEARED AND SHE HASN'T

HAD ANY TROUBLE SINCE.

Terry: THIS IS LYDIA,

WHO LIVES IN L.A., AND SHE

WAS HOSPITALIZED AND WENT

INTO A DEEP COMA.

THE DOCTORS DIDN'T EXPECT

HER TO LIVE, BUT SHE DID.

HE WARNED THEM THERE WOULD

BE SEVERAL SIDE EFFECTS

AND SHE WON'T FULLY

RECOVER.

HER AUNT CALLED "THE 700

CLUB," AND AFTER EIGHT

DAYS SHE WOKE UP AND IS

DOING JUST FINE.

GIVE GOD THE GLORY, FOLKS.

Pat: TERRY AND I ARE

GOING TO JOIN HANDS.

WHEREVER YOU ARE, I WANT

YOU TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH

GOD.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.

HIS NAME, THE LORD, IN

HEBREW, MEANS HE WHO

CAUSES EVERYTHING TO BE.

HEALING FOR YOU WITH THE

GOD WE SERVE IS NOTHING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO REACH

OUT AND ASK HIM BECAUSE HE

LOVES YOU.

FATHER, I JOIN WITH TERRY

RIGHT NOW.

AND WE BELIEVE GOD

TOGETHER IN THE NAME OF

JESUS.

SOMEBODY HAS A RUPTURED

SPLEEN THE LORD HAS JUST

HEALED IN JESUS' HOLY

NAME.

Terry: SOMEBODY WITH

SERIOUS PANCREATIC

PROBLEMS, GOD IS HEALING

YOU RIGHT NOW.

JUST RECEIVE THAT.

Pat: OH, YOU'VE GOT A

SWOLLEN TONGUE.

IT ALMOST WANTS TO GO OUT

OF YOUR MOUTH.

YOU'RE IN AGONY.

RIGHT NOW PUT YOUR HAND

OVER YOUR MOUTH IN JESUS'

NAME.

IN THAT TOUCH, THAT TONGUE

IS HEALED.

Terry: SOMEONE ELSE

WITH A KIDNEY PROBLEM.

IT IS JUST ONE KIDNEY, BUT

IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

GOD IS HEALING THAT FOR

YOU.

YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL A

WARMTH WRAP AROUND THE

BACK.

Pat: SOMEBODY HAS A

DEEP VEIN THROMBROSIS

PROBLEM IN YOUR LEG.

GOD IS HEALING MOST OF

THOSE BLOOD CLOTS, AND THE

VEINS ARE GOING TO BE

HEALED, AND THE SWELLING

WILL GO DOWN IN JESUS'

NAME.

Terry: THERE IS

SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU HAVE --

IT IS LIKE SOME KIND OF

CONDITION IN YOUR SINUSES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS,

BUT YOU CAN'T BREATHE

WELL.

YOU CAN'T SMELL WELL, YOUR

FOOD DOESN'T TAKE RIGHT.

TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND

EXHALE THROUGH YOUR NOSE.

YOUR SMELL AND YOUR WHOLE

NOSE HAS OPENED UP.

Pat: WE COME BEFORE

THE LORD AND BELIEVE GOD

FOR YOU.

WHATEVER IT IS, THE

FINANCES, YOUR FAMILY,

WHATEVER NEEDS YOU HAVE,

IN THE NAME OF JESUS, MAY

THE POWER OF GOD TOUCH YOU

NOW.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AMEN.

AMEN.

PLEASE CALL US AND TELL US

WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

YOU RECEIVE SOMETHING FROM

THE LORD, YOU TAKE HOLD OF

IT, AND YOU THANK HIM FOR

IT.

OKAY.

Terry: STILL AHEAD,

WE'RE GOING TO TURN THE

CLOCK BACK, WAY BACK, TO

THE BEGINNING OF THE

UNIVERSE.

DOES IT POINT TO A CREATOR

OR JUST RANDOM CHANCE?

FIND OUT WHEN WE RETURN.

Wendy: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE 700 CLUB."

THE 6-FOOT STATUE KNOWN AS

BIG MOUNTAIN JESUS CAN

REMAIN ON U.S. FOREST

SERVICE PROPERTY IN

MONTANA.

A THREE-JUDGE PANEL FROM A

FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS

REJECTED A LAWSUIT AGAINST

THE STATUE.

IT WAS BROUGHT BY THE

FREEDOM FROM RELIGION

FOUNDATION.

THE COURT RULED IT SERVES

A PRIMARILY SECULAR

PURPOSE.

AND THE STATUE IS ERECTED

ON A SKI SLOPE IN THE

FLATHEAD NATIONAL FOREST

IN 1954 BY THE KNIGHTS OF

COLUMBUS.

IT HONORS WORLD WAS TWO

VETERANS WHO FOUGHT IN THE

ALPS.

IT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE

NATIONAL REGISTER OF

HISTORIC PLACES.

A PRO-LIFE GROUP HAS

WON A LEGAL VICTORY OVER

OBAMACARE.

A FEDERAL JUDGE RULED THAT

"MARCH FOR LIFE" DOES NOT

HAVE TO PROVIDE COVERAGE

FOR ABORTIO ABORTION-INDUCING

DRUGS AS PART OF HIS

HEALTH CARE, EVEN THOUGH

OBAMACARE SAYS THEY DO.

"MARCH FOR LIFE" HOLDS AN

ANNUAL PROTEST FOR THE ROE

VS. WADE DECISION.

THE COURT RULED THAT

GROUPS DO NOT NEED TO HAVE

RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO

CHALLENGE THE MANDATE.

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB" RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: YOU CAN SEARCH

THE WRITINGS OF THE GREAT

SAINTS ALL THE WAY BACK TO

AUGUSTINE.

WHEN DID THE UNIVERSE

BEGIN?

AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE

TO GET HERE?

THESE QUESTIONS AND MORE

ARE ONES THAT OUR GUEST,

HUGH ROSS, HAS SPENT HIS

LIFE TRYING TO ANSWER.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: MODERN

SCIENTISTS HAVE MADE SOME

ASTOUNDING DISCOVERIES

ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE

UNIVERSE.

BUT MANY OF THESE

SO-CALLED FINDINGS ARE

SUBJECT TO DEBATE.

ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO

CREATION AND THE BEGINNING

OF TIME.

THAT LEADS CHRISTIANS WITH

A TOUGH QUESTION: DOES

MODERN SCIENCE AGREE WITH

THE BIBLE.

HUGH ROSS HAS SPENT

DECADES SHOWING HOW

SCIENCE SUPPORTS THE

BIBLE.

CREATION, WAS IT SEVEN

DAYS AS WE KNOW IT?

OR MUCH LONGER?

Pat: DR. HUGH ROSS IS

HERE.

HIS LATEST BOOK IS CALLED

"A MATTER OF DAYS."

DR. ROSS, IT'S SO GOOD TO

HAVE YOU BACK ON "THE 700

CLUB."

PEOPLE LOVE TO HEAR FROM

YOU.

THANK YOU.

Pat: HEY, LISTEN,

LET'S JUST GET TO THE BIG

STUFF.

HOW OLD IS THE UNIVERSE,

AS FAR AS YOU KNOW?

13.79 BILLION YEARS,

GIVE OR TAKE .05.

Pat: 13.79 BILLION --

YOU'VE GOT IT THAT

PRECISE.

WE WERE THERE IN THE

SENSE THAT WE ASTRONOMERS

LOOKED BACK IN TIME.

THE FARTHER AWAY WE

LOOKED, THE FARTHER BACK

IN TIME WE SEE.

Pat: WHAT IS THE

EVIDENCE?

THIS IS A BIG JUMP, ALMOST

FOUR BILLION YEARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF TIME.

HOW DO WE KNOW IT?

WITH THE EARTH, THAT'S

4.5662 BILLION YEARS.

WE KNOW IT TO THAT DEGREE

OF PRECISION BECAUSE OF A

NUMBER OF METHODS.

Pat: GIVE ME ONE OR

TWO.

URANIUM AND THORIUM

ESTABLISH IT TO THAT

POSITION.

Pat: HOW DO YOU DO

THAT?

YOU LOOK AT URANIUM AND

THORIUM GO TO THREE

ISOTOPES OF LED.

LELEAD ONLY COMES FROM

THOSE.

YOU LOOK AT THE QUANTITIES

OF THE LEAD YOU HAVE, AND

THE QUANTITIES OF THE

ISOTOPES OF URANIUM AND

THORIUM, AND YOU GET SIX

INDEPENDENT MEASURES OF

THE AGE OF THE EARTH AND

THEY ALL AGREE.

Pat: YOU'VE GOT

DINOSAURS ABOUT 75 MILLION

YEARS OR SO.

WHEN DID MAN, HOMOSAPIENS,

APPEAR ON THIS PLANET, DO

YOU THINK?

HUMANS ARE RELATIVELY

RECENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE

TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS

AGO, WHEN GOD CREATED ADAM

AND EVE, AND ALL

HUMANITIES DESCENDED FROM

THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS.

I'M ON BOARD WITH MY

FRIENDS WHO SAY HUMANITY

IS RECENT.

Pat: BUT WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING IS -- GOD DID THE

REST OF IT, TOO, DIDN'T

HE?

HE DID.

ALL THAT WAS IN

PREPARATION FOR HUMAN

BEINGS.

GOD LITERALLY TOOK HIS

TIME TO PACK THE EARTH

WITH AS MUCH LIFE AS

POSSIBLE AND AS LONG AS

POSSIBLE THAT THE LAWS OF

PHYSICS WOULD PERMIT.

WHY?

SO WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF

THE BIODEPOSIT RESOURCES

THAT WE NEED TO FILL THE

GREAT COMMISSION IN

THOUSANDS OF YEARS RATHER

THAN MILLIONS OF YEARS.

Pat: HOW BIG IS THIS

UNIVERSE?

IT'S BIG.

WE'RE TALKING BILLIONS OF

LIGHT YEARS ACROSS.

WE CAN MEASURE THE SIZE OF

THE UNIVERSE.

WE KNOW THE EXPANSION RATE

OF THE UNIVERSE.

AND YOU DIVIDE THOSE TWO,

AND IT GIVES YOU THE AGE

OF THE UNIVERSE.

THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO

MEASURE THE AGE OF THE

UNIVERSE.

BECAUSE THE BIBLE TELLS US

IT HAS A BEGINNING.

IT HAS A BEGINNING OF

MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, AND

TIME.

IT STARTED SMALL, AND HAS

EXPANDED TO THE SIZE WE

SEE TODAY.

Pat: THE BIG BANG,

WAS IT SO DENSE WE CAN'T

EVEN CONCEIVE OF THE

DENSITY AND IT SUDDENLY

EXPLODED AND OUT OF THAT

CAME EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT?

THAT'S THE BASIC

PICTURE, AND THE BIBLE

TAUGHT IT FIRST.

THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT ME TO

FAITH IN CHRIST, AS A

YOUNG ASTRONOMY STUDENT,

THAT THE BIBLE THOUSANDS

OF YEARS AGO ACCURATELY

PREDICTED ALL OF THE

FUNDAMENTAL FEATURES THAT

WOULD BE CALLED BIG BANG.

NO ASTRONOMER HINTED THAT

THE UNIVERSE HAD THESE

CHARACTERISTICS BUT FOR

THOUSANDS OF YEARS THE

BIBLE SAID THERE ARE

PHYSICS THAT DON'T CHANGE.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE BASIC

OF DECAY.

WHICH MEANS AND IMPLIES

THAT THE UNIVERSE GETS

COLDER AND COLDER AS IT

GETS OLDER AND OLDER.

Pat: YOU FOUND THE

RED SHIFT OR WHATEVER THAT

THE UNIVERSE IS ACTUALLY

EXPANDING?

YES.

Pat: AND IT KEEPS ON

GOING?

BUT THERE ARE 11

PASSAGES IN THE BIBLE THAT

TOLD US THOUSANDS OF YEARS

AGO THAT WE LIVE IN A

UNIVERSE THAT CONTINUOUSLY

EXPANDS.

YOU KNOW, HOW GOD

STRETCHES OUT THE HEAVENS.

AND THE HEBREW VERB THERE

IS NATAH, WHICH MEANS THE

EXPANSION OF WHAT IS BEING

DESCRIBED.

IT IS DESCRIEKD I DESCRIBED IN ALL

THREE HEBREW FORMS.

SO THE BIBLE IS LITERALLY

TEACHING WE LIVE IN AN

EXPANDED UNIVERSE.

Pat: I'M TAKING ALL

OF THAT AND TRYING TO

PROCESS IT.

I SAW A PICTURE THAT WAS

TAKEN FROM ONE OF THESE

SPACE SATELLITES THAT WE

HAVE RUNNING AROUND, AND

IT SHOWS THIS PIN DOT IN

SPACE, AND THAT WAS US.

YES.

Pat: HOW MANY STARS

ARE IN THE UNIVERSE?

THERE ARE ABOUT

50 SEXTILLION STARS IN THE

OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE.

Pat: 50 SEXTILLION?

>50 BILLIONTRILLION?

THAT'S 23 ZEROS AFTER

THE ONE.

THE SUN REPRESENTS A

FRACTION -- A FRACTION OF

ALL OF THE STARS WE SEE

ARE SUN-LIKE.

MOST STARS ARE SMALLER

THAN THE SUN, AND A FEW

ARE BIGGER THAN THE SUN.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS

WE KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE

HAS BEEN DESIGNED.

IT TAKES A VERY SPECIAL

KIND OF STAR TO HAVE IT

ADVANCE LIGHT.

Pat: RE LIVE I WE LIVE IN A

SOLAR SYSTEM, AND THE

SOLAR SYSTEM IS PART OF A

GALAXY.

ARE WE SECOND RIGHT

GALAXY?

HOW BIG IS OUR GALAXY?

OURS IS A BIG GALAXY,

BUT IT IS NOT A SUPER

SIZED GALAXY.

THE SIZE OF THE UNIVERSE,

THE MASS OF THE UNIVERSE,

MUST BE FINE TUNED TO AN

EXQUISITE DEGREE IN ORDER

TO GET A PLANET ON WHICH

LIFE IS POSSIBLE.

SO WE MUST LIVE ON A

UNIVERSE EXACTLY THE SIZE

WE OBSERVE, OTHERWISE WE

WOULDN'T BE HERE.

Pat: I UNDERSTAND IN

THE MATTER DEALING WITH

THE BIG BANG HAD BEEN OFF

BY A FRACTION OF AN ATOM,

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO

MUCH GRAVITY AND IT

WOULDN'T HAVE EXPANDED, OR

ELSE THERE WOULDN'T HAVE

BEEN ENOUGH AND IT WOULD

HAVE BLOWN APART.

IS THAT THE IDEA?

YEAH.

THERE ARE TWO FEATURES.

IF THE UNIVERSE WAS ANY

BIGGER THAN IT IS, IT

WOULD EXPAND TO SLOWLY AND

YOU WOULD GET NOTHING BUT

BLACK HOLES AND LIFE WOULD

BE IMPOSSIBLE.

BUT IF IT IS NOT BIG

ENOUGH, THE UNIVERSE

EXPANDS SO MUCH THE STARS

DON'T FORM AT ALL.

SO IT HAS TO BE JUST THE

RIGHT SIZE.

Pat: I'M LOOKING AT

THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAVE

TAKEN FROM THE HUBBLE, OF

THIS ENORMOUS, GIGANTIC

STAR CLUSTERS, AND I'M

THINKING OF GOD.

AND I'M THINKING OF THIS

LITTLE TINY PLANET WE SIT

ON.

AND WHERE IS HE?

HOW DOES HE MANAGE ALL OF

THIS STUFF?

IT IS HUGE.

IT'S HUGE, AND IT IS

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I

THINK WE'RE IMPRESSED THAT

THERE HAS TO BE A GOD

BEHIND THOSE BECAUSE HE IS

CONTROLLING EVERYTHING.

AND EVERYTHING MUST BE

CONTROLLED SO THAT WE

HUMAN BEINGS CAN

EXISTENCE, AND SO THAT WE

HUMAN BEINGS HAVE THE

RESOURCES WE NEED TO

FULFILL THE PURPOSE FOR

WHICH GOD CREATED US.

Pat: YOU'RE SAYING

THAT THE WHOLE UNIVERSE

WAS SET UP AS A BACKDROP

FOR HUMANITY?

EXACTLY, SO THAT WE CAN

EXIST AND FULFILL OUR

DESTINY.

Pat: WE'VE GOT A STAR

FOR THE SUN, WE'VE GOT AN

INNER CORE THAT BALANCES

THE SHIFTING THINGS --

WHAT ELSE DID HE DO FOR

US?

WE'VE GOT OCEANS AND

WATER -- WHERE DID THAT

COME FROM?

ALL OF THE PLANETS, FOR

EXAMPLE, WE SEE IN OUR

SOLAR SYSTEM, EACH ONE

PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN

MAKING THE PLANET EARTH.

WE NEED THE ENTIRE SOLAR

SYSTEM TO BE EXACTLY THE

WAY IT IS.

WE ALSO NEED THE HISTORY

OF LIFE ON PLANET EARTH.

GOD CREATED THE FIRST LIFE

3.8 BILLION YEARS AGO.

AND HE CAREFULLY DESIGNED

THE WHOLE HISTORY OF

LIGHT.

WHY?

SO WE HUMAN BEINGS, WHO

ARE CREATED LAST OF ALL,

WILL HAVE EVERYTHING WE

NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL

THE GOOD NEWS OF SALVATION

OF JESUS CHRIST.

Pat: I AGREE WITH ALL

OF THAT, BUT WE'RE SO

TINY.

IF THIS UNIVERSE IS A

FLASHBACK OUT IN THE GREAT

BIG UNIVERSE -- IF THIS

PLANET IS A LITTLE

FLASHBACK, WE'RE ON THE

FLASHBACK.

HERE I AM SITTING IN THIS

STUDIO, AND WE'RE JUST A

LITTLE FLASHBACK.

KEEP IN MIND A STAR IS

JUST A GIANT BALL OF GAS.

EVERY HUMAN BEING IS WAY

MORE THAN A GIANT BALL OF

GAS.

WE'RE NOT ONLY PHYSICAL,

WORRY SOULISH AND

SPIRITUAL.

WE'RE THE EPITOME OF GOD'S

CREATION.

'TIMA TIME WILL COME WHEN WE

WILL RULE OVER THE ANGELS

THEMSELVES.

SO THE GREATEST COMPONENT

IN ALL CREATION.

Pat: WILL WE HAVE THE

POWER THEN AS HUMAN

BEINGS -- I GUESS THAT'S

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -- TO

CONTROL PLANETS?

THE SIZE DOESN'T MAKE ANY

DIFFERENCE --

THAT IS NOT PROMISING

US WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE

TO CONTROL PHYSICAL

CREATION.

HE DOES THAT.

BUT HE SAYS IN THE NEW

CREATION, WE'LL BE THERE

WITH HIM MANAGING IT, AND

WE'LL BE TEACHING AND

INSTRUCTING THE ANGELS.

BECAUSE GOD SET UP THIS

UNIVERSE AND SUCH A WAY WE

GET TO DIRECTLY EXPERIENCE

THE GRACE OF GOD.

THE ANGELS HAVE TO WATCH

IT.

WE GET TO EXPERIENCE IT.

AND SO WE'RE BEING TRAINED

AND EQUIPPED, THANKS TO

THE WAY GOD DESIGNED THE

PHYSICS OF THE UNIVERSE,

AND THE SIZE OF THE

UNIVERSE, IN SUCH A WAY WE

CAN FULFILL OUR FUTURE

ROLES IN THE NEW CREATION.

Pat: WHEW!

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I

DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET

EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BUT I

DO.

THE PLAN OF GOD FOR YOU,

AND YOU'RE SO IMPORTANT.

IN THIS TINY LITTLE SPACE

WE'RE IN, IN THIS HUGE

CREATION, GOD WHO DID IT

THINKS WE'RE SPECIAL.

WHY DO YOU SPEND YOUR TIME

ARGUING WITH THESE CLOWNS

THAT WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT

6,000 YEARS, WHEN YOU'VE

GOT THIS VAST PLAN PLEA OF PA PANOPLY

ABOUT THE CREATION.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING

ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THE

BIBLE AND THE CHRISTIAN

FAITH, AND OFTEN WHAT GETS

IN THE WAY IS THIS

CONTROVERSY OVER THE

LENGTH OF THE CREATION

DAYS.

I'M MOTIVATED TO TAKE AWAY

THE STUMBLING BLOCK THAT

PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM

SEEING THESE POWERFUL

SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES FOR

THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AND

THE TRUTH OF THE

SCRIPTURE.

Pat: ISN'T IT SORT OF

PETTY ARGUING WHETHER

USHER WAS RIGHT, E-

>RIGHT --

THAT'S PART OF THE

POINT.

THE BIBLE EMPHASIZES WHO

CREATES AND HOW HE

CREATES.

IT IS NOT IMPORTANT FOR

SALVATION WHEN HE CREATES.

Pat: AND THE

SALVATION --

THIS IS NOT A SALVATION

ISSUE.

IT IS AN EVANGELISM ISSUE.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE SAYING IF

THE BIBLE TEACHES US 6,000

YEARS, AND MY SCIENCE

TELLS ME THAT IS NOT TRUE,

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE

CHRISTIANITY THE THOUGHT

OF THE DAY.

GOD GAVE US TWO BOOKS, THE

BIBLE, SCRIPTURES, AND THE

BOOK OF NATURE.

THEY'RE DESIGNED TO

SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER AND

COOPERATE ONE ANOTHER.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO SHOW

PEOPLE HOW THE TWO BOOKS

AGREE.

Pat: AS FAR AS THE

AGE, ANYBODY, THE OIL

BUSINESS -- YOU'RE DOWN

DRILLING INTO THESE ZONES

THAT WERE THERE, LAID DOWN

TENS OF MIX OF SUN AND

CLOUMILLIONS OF YEARSAGO, AND ANYBODY DEALING

WITH THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE

AND DEALING WITH GEOLOGY

SEES THE ROCK STRUCTURES

AND SO FORTH -- THEY HAVE

TO BE.

YOU'VE GOT A BOOK -- LET

ME PROMOTE YOUR BOOK.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS

BOOK IS COLLECT ALL OF THE

DATA ON THE BIODEPOSIT

RESOURCES OF THE EARTH.

I THINK WE'RE THE FIRST

ONES TO ACTUALLY

ACCUMULATE ALL OF THE

DATA.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE WEALTH

OF THE BIODEPOSITS ACROSS

THE EARTH, THE NATURAL GAS

AND THE CLATH RATES, THIS

IS CLEAR IT IS NOT LAID

DOWN IN JUST THOUSANDS OF

YEARS.

THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH OF

IT.

MORE OVER, WE NEED ALL OF

THOSE BIODEPOSITS TO

LAUNCH CIVILIZATION AND BE

ABLE TO CREATE THE GREAT

COMMISSION.

IT IS A MESSAGE YOU SEE IN

PALMS AND PROVERBS AND

JOB.

I THINK THE CONTROVERSY

WOULD BE RESOLVED QUICKLY

IF WE WOULD GET PEOPLE TO

INTEGRATE EVERYTHING THE

BIBLE SAYS ABOUT CREATION.

Pat: YOU POINTED TO

THIS ONE GROUP, A GUY WHO

IS A FORMER PROFESSOR OF

VIRGINIA TECH.

HE SAYS YOU CAN'T BE A

PREACHER OR AN EVANGELIST

OR A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER

IF THEY DON'T GO ALONG

WITH ALL OF THIS 6,000

YEAR STUFF.

WELL, THAT'S THE

PROBLEM.

BUT IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM

FOR THOUSANDS OF YEAR.

IT IS INTERESTING HOW

CHRISTIANS HAVE DIVIDED

OVER THE NO NON-ESSENTIALS OF

THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

IN THE FIRST CENTURY,

PEOPLE WERE SAYING YOU

HAVE TO BE CIRCUMCISED TO

BE A CHRISTIAN.

AND NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE

SAYING IT HAS TO BE

THOUSAND OF YEARS TO BE

ESSENTIAL.

IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL.

Pat: HE WHO CAUSES

EVERYTHING TO BE -- THAT'S

HIS NAME.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS

BOOK -- I MAY USE THE TERM

EXHAUSTIVE BECAUSE I TRIED

TO READ IT.

IT IS EXHAUSTING.

IT HAS EVERY SINGLE

ARGUMENT YOU EVER HEARD

HAVING TO DO WITH SIX DAYS

VERSES THIS EXPANDING

UNIVERSE.

DR. ROSS -- NOBODY HAS PUT

A COMPILATION TOGETHER

EVER.

THIS IS IT?

THIS IS THE MOST

COMPLETE COMPILATION.

Pat: IT IS CALLED "A

MATTER OF DAYS," IF YOU

WANT TO GET INTO.

INSTEAD OF ARGUING IT, WHY

DON'T WE JUST SAY, HOW DO

YOU GET SAVED?

YOU GET SAVED THROUGH

JESUS CHRIST.

AND THE BIBLE IS THERE TO

LEAD US AND TO FIND HIM.

NOT TO ARGUE ABOUT

USHERING 6,000 YEARS.

DR. ROSS, I LOVE WHAT YOU

DO.

THANK YOU.

Pat: GET A COPY.

IT IS AVAILABLE AT

DOT-COMS.

Pat: "A MATTER OF

DAYS."

TERRY, WE'VE GOT A FEW

MINUTES LEFT.

DID YOU GET ALL OF YOUR

QUESTIONS ANSWERED?

Terry: ALL OF THEM.

AND HE IS FASCINATING.

> STILL AHEAD, QUESTIONS

FROM OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE.

MARISSA SAYS, "I PRAYED

AND ASKED GOD TO HEAL MY

HUSBAND, BUT HE DIED THIS

YEAR.

WHY DIDN'T GOD HEAL HIM?"

PAT IS GOING TO TACKLE

THAT AND MORE, LATER ON

TODAY'S SHOW.

SO DON'T GO AWAY.

Terry: WELL, LET US

TAKE THESE LAST FEW

MINUTES TO ANSWER SOME OF

THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL

SENT IN.

PAT, THIS FIRST ONE COMES

FROM MARISSA.

SHE SAYS, "WE PRAYED AND

PRAYED FOR HEALING FOR MY

HUSBAND, CHARLIE.

HE DIED ON JULY 1st THIS

YEAR.

WHY DIDN'T GOD HEAL HIM?

HE WAS A WONDERFUL PERSON

AND WE MISS HIM."

Pat: THERE ARE SOME

MYSTERIES, AND I DON'T

KNOW THE ANSWER TO ALL OF

THEM.

BUT WE KNOW IF A PERSON IS

IN CHRIST, DEATH IS NOT

THE END.

IT IS THE ULTIMATE

HEALING.

WHEN YOU BECOME A

SPIRITUAL BEING AND YOU'RE

UNITED WITH THE CREATOR

FOR ALL ETERNITY, THAT'S

THE REAL HEARING.

YOU GET FREE FROM THIS

BODY THAT IS FULL OF PAIN

AND CANCER AND MISERY, AND

YOU GET INTO A NEW BODY.

GOD CAN RESHAPE THE BODY A

LITTLE BIT, AND I'VE SEEN

THAT DONE.

Terry: THIS IS JAMAI,

WHO SAYS, "ARE WE AS

CHRISTIANS STILL UNDER THE

LAW OF MOSES, OR IS THERE

A NEW LAW, SUCH AS THE LAW

OF CHRIST?"

Pat: THERE IS THE LAW

OF CHRIST.

AND THE BIBLE SAYS THE LAW

IS A SCHOOL MASTER.

PENTAGOGOS IS KIND OF A

TUTOR, TO LEAD US TO

CHRIST.

IT SHOWS US WHAT SIN IS

AND IT SHOWS US THE

DEMANDS OF GOD.

WE'RE NOW NOT UNDER LAW,

BUT UNDER GRACE.

PAUL SAYS, YOU'VE FALLEN

FROM GRACE.

AND YOU THINK BY KEEPING

THE LAW YOU'LL BE SAFE.

BUT IT IS STRICTLY THE

GRACE OF GOD.

SO WE'RE UNDER GRACE, NOT

UNDER LAW.

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, THE

MORAL COMMANDS OF THE 10

COMMANDMENTS, THE LAWS

HAVING TO DO WITH SEXUAL

IMMORTALITY, THE LAWS

HAVING TO DO WITH HONEST

AND DECENCY AND THAT YOU

SEE IN THE 10

COMMANDMENTS, THAT STAYS

THROUGH.

WE, AS CHRISTIANS, ARE

UNDER THE MORAL

CONSTRAINTS OF A RIGHTEOUS

LAW.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

Terry: MIKE SAYS, "I

KEEP HEARING ABOUT A BUNCH

OF STUFF THAT IS SUPPOSED

TO HAPPEN ON

SEPTEMBER 23rd.

WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE

IN REGARDS TO PROPHECY?"

Pat: THE CLOCK IS

DOWN TO 11:59.

I THINK THINGS ARE GETTING

READY TO WRAP UP.

WE HAVE JONATHAN CAHN WHO

TALKS ABOUT SHMITA.

MAYBE HE CAN CLARIFY SOME

OF THE THINGS HE'S BEEN

WRITING.

I THINK THE EARTH IS

HURTLING TOWARDS SOME

FINAL CONCLUSION.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

MATTHEW 18: 19: "IF TWO OF

YOU AGREE ON EARTH

CONCERNING ANYTHING THEY

ASK, IT WILL BE DONE FOR

THEM BY MY FATHER, WHICH

IS IN HEAVEN."

WELL, TOMORROW WE'VE GOT

THE GUIDE TO ISIS.

YOU'LL LOOK FORWARD TO

MEETING ROBERT SPENCER.

UNTIL THEN, WE'LL SEE YOU

TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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