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Obama Secures Support to Press On with Iran Nuke Deal – September 4, 2015

This week on Jerusalem Dateline: President Obama secures support for Iran nuclear deal; critics say it will let Iran cross nuke threshold; plus does ISIS really have a plan to conquer the world? and migrants flood Europe will Europe still be Europe Read Transcript


Chris: THIS WEEK ON

"JERUSALEM DATELINE,"

PRESIDENT OBAMA CROSSES

THE THRESHOLD WITH THE

PRESIDENTIAL VETO ON THE

IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL.

BUT CRITICS SAY THE

AGREEMENT WILL LINK IRAN

ACROSS THE NUCLEAR

THRESHOLD, AND PUT ISRAEL

AND THE UNITED STATES IN

PERIL.

PLUS, ISIS, WHAT YOU

SHOULD KNOW.

DO THEY REALLY HAVE A PLAN

TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD?

AND EUROPE PLACES A WAVE

OF MIGRANTS, AND SOME

WONDER IF EUROPE WILL

STILL BE EUROPE WHEN THE

FLOOD SUBSIDES.

HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "JERUSALEM

DATELINE." I'M CHRIS

MITCHELL.

THEY CHANT DEATH TO

AMERICA IN IRAN, EVEN SO,

PRESIDENT OBAMA JUST GOT

ENOUGH VOTES THIS WEEK SO

HIS NUCLEAR DEAL CAN PASS

THE SENATE.

THAT'S DESPITE WARNINGS

THE PLAN WILL CLEAR THE

WAY FOR IRAN TO BUILD

NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

EVEN AFTER THEY'VE MADE AN

AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED

STATES AND FIVE OTHER

WORLD POWERS.

IRAN'S LEADERS ARE STILL

MAKING IT CLEAR THEY

CONSIDER THE U.S. THE

GREAT SATAN.

GEORGE THOMAS HAS THE

STORY.

George: AT THE STATE

DEPARTMENT, OFFICIALS

CONTINUE TO STRESS THE

PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT,

THAT THE U.S. WOULD STILL

IMPOSE FURTHER SANCTIONS

SHOULD IRAN CHANGE ITS

BEHAVIOR TOWARDS THE DEAL.

AND THAT THE PLAN WOULD

PREVENT IRAN FROM BECOMING

A NUCLEAR POWER.

WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR

ABOUT WHAT THIS AGREEMENT

IS ABOUT.

IT IS ABOUT STOPPING IRAN

FROM GETTING A NUCLEAR

WEAPON.

George: BUT OPPONENTS

LIKE RETIRED GENERAL JERRY

BOYKIN SAYS THE DEAL WILL

ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPOSITE

EFFECT.

THIS IS, IN FACT, A

PATHWAY TO IRAN HAVING A

NUCLEAR WEAPON.

George: BOYKIN AND

NEARLY 2 OTHER RETIRED

GENERALS AND ADMIRALS

APPEALED TO CONGRESS IN A

LETTER LAST WEEK TO REJECT

THE DEAL.

BOYKINS SAYS THE AGREEMENT

ALSO GIVES IRAN ACCESS TO

MORE MONEY TO FUND TERROR

GROUPS AROUND THE WORLD.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A

LARGE AMOUF MEY,

$150 BILLION -- I'VE HEARD

ESTIMATES OVER A FIVE-YEAR

PERIOD THAT RUN AS MUCH AS

$700 BILLION -- THAT IS

GOING TO GO INTO THE

COFFERS OF A VERY ROGUE

ISLAMIC REGIME, WHO IS THE

BIGGEST SPONSOR OF

TERRORISM.

THAT MEANS THAT HEZBOLLAH,

HAMAS, AND OTHER TERRORIST

ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO

GET A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH

THEY CAN USE AGAINST THEIR

TWO PRIMARY ENEMIES, WHICH

IS ISRAEL AND AMERICA.

George: AS CHANCES OF

STOPPINGHE DEAL DWINDLE,

REPUBLICANS ARE PLANNING

TO PUSH NEW LEGISLATION

FOR SANCTIONS, TARGETING

THE FINANCES OF IRANIAN

INSTITUTIONS THAT SUPPORT

TERROR.

ONE OF THEM IS TEHRAN'S

ELITE MILITARY UNIT, THE

ISLAMIC REVOLUTIONARY

GUARDS.

ON TUESDAY, THE UNIT'S

COMMANDER ISSUED THIS

WARNING.

AMERICA IS STILL THE

GREAT SATAN.

George: A SENTIMENT

THAT WAS ALSO ECHOED THE

SAME DAY DURING THE

OPENING SESSION OF IRAN'S

POWERFUL CLERICAL BODY.

THIS NUCLEAR DEAL, WILL

UNDER, NO CIRCUMSTANCES,

ALTER OUR COUNTRY'S

FOREIGN POLICY.

THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF

IRAN CONSIDERS THE U.S.

ITS NUMBER ONE ENEMY.

George: GEORGE

THOMAS, CBN NEWS.

Chris: SENATOR TOM

COTTON FROM ARKANSAS IS

ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN

CRITICS OF THE IRAN

NUCLEAR DEAL.

HE VISITED ISRAEL THIS

WEEK AND EXPLAINED TO US

WHY HE SAYS THIS AGREEMENT

MAY BE ONE OF THE WORST IN

AMERICAN HISTORY.

SENATOR COTTON, THANK YOU

FOR BEING WITH US RIGHT

NOW.

IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE

WITH YOU.

Chris: WHAT DO YOU

SEE AS THE FLAWS IN THE

IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL?

THERE ARE MULTIPLE

FLAWS.

I THINK IT IS DANGEROUS

FOR THE UNITED STATES.

DANGEROUS FOR OUR AL ALLIES

LIKE ISRAEL AND FOR WORLD

PEACE.

FIRST, IN THE IMMEDIATE

AND NON-NUCLEAR DIMENSION,

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TENS

OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN

IMMEDIATE SANCTIONS RELIEF

TO A GOVERNMENT THAT IS

STILL THE WORLD'S WORST

STATE SPONSOR OF

TERRORISM, THAT HAS THE

BLOOD OF HUNDREDS OF

AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN IRAQ

AND AFGHANISTAN ON ITS

HANDS, AND STILL CHANTS

DEATH TO AMERICA AND DEATH

TO ISRAEL IN THE STREETS.

SECOND, EVEN IF IRAN

FOLLOWS THE DEAL TO THE

LETTER, THEY'RE GOING TO

BE A NUCLEAR THRESHOLD

STATE IN A MERE 10 TO 15

YEARS, WHICH PRIME

MINISTER NETANYAHU SAID IS

THE BLINK OF AN EYE IN THE

LIFE OF NATIONS.

THIRD, IRAN,

UNFORTUNATELY, DOESN'T

HAVE A REPUTATION OR

HISTORY OF FOLLOWING ITS

INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS.

SO THEY'RE LIKELY TO

DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS

CAPABILITY WELL BEFORE THE

10 TO 15-YEAR PERIOD

CONCLUDES.

Chris: HOW DO YOU

FIND OUT ABOUT THE SECRET

DEALS BETWEEN THE IAEA AND

IRAN?

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT

THAT?

THERE ARE TWO SECRET

SIDE DEALS BETWEEN IRAN

AND THE ATOMIC NUCLEAR

AGENCY.

ONE WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH

THE MILITARY BASE WHERE WE

BELIEVE IRAN TESTED

NUCLEAR DETONATORS.

AND THE SECOND IS IRAN'S

NUCLEAR PROGRAM CH, WHICH IS

A CRITICAL PROGRAM OF

INSPECTING THAT.

IT WOULD BE LIKE STARTING

A DIET WITHOUT KNOWING

YOUR STARTING WEIGHT.

IT IS THE UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE

OBLIGATION TO EXPOSE THOSE

SIDE AGREEMENTS TO US

BECAUSE THERE IS FEDERAL

LAW THAT REQUIRES IT.

THE ADMINISTRATION, STILL

TO THIS DAY, HAS NOT

OBTAINED THE AGREEMENTS,

AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED

THEM TO THE CONGRESS OR

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT

JUST GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.

THEY WEREN'T OBTAINED

THROUGH SENSITIVE,

CLANDESTINE METHODS.

AND IRAN KNOWS WHAT THEY

AGREED TO.

I THINK THE UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT SHOULD OBTAIN

THE AGREEMENTS AND EXPOSE

THE AGREEMENTS.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

REPORTED WHAT WAS THE MORE

NARROW AND LIMITED

AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD

ESSENTIALLY ALLOW IRAN TO

INSPECT ITSELF.

KIND OF LIKE LETTING AN

NFL PLAYER TAKE HIS OWN

DRUG TEST AT HOME AND MAIL

IT IN TO ROGER GOODELL SO

HE CAN ESTABLISH HIS

ELIGIBILITY.

Chris: WHY IS THIS SO

SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT

TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

THE NUCLEAR DEAL IS

SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THE

NATURE OF THE IRANIAN

REGIME.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF

COUNTRIES THAT ARE NUCLEAR

THRESHOLD CAPABLE.

JAPAN IS PROBABLY THE BEST

EXAMPLE.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T

WORRY ABOUT JAPAN AND ITS

NUCLEAR POWER PROGRAM

BECAUSE JAPAN IS A

PEACEFUL, CONSTITUTIONAL

DEMOCRACY.

IRAN, HOWEVER, IS RUN BY

RADICAL CLERICS WHO

CONTINUALLY CHANT DEATH TO

AMERICA AND DEATH TO

ISRAEL IN THE STREET, LED

BY THEIR NATIONAL

LEADERSHIP.

THEY HAVE THE BLOOD OF

HUNDREDS OF AMERICANS ON

THEIR HANDS FROM THE WARS

IN IRAQI AND AFGHANISTAN.

THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO

KILL JEWS ALL AROUND THE

WORLD.

NOT JUST IN ISRAEL, BUT IN

PLACES LIKE BULGARIA AND

ARGENTINA.

AND THEY'RE DESTABILIZING

THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST.

AND THEY'RE PROPPING UP

BASHAR al-ASSAD.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM

TENS OF BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS, WE'RE GOING TO

LIFT SANCTIONS ON THEIR

OIL AND OTHER ECONOMIC

TRACTIONS, AND WE'RE GOING

TO LIFT THE INTERNATIONAL

ARMS EMBARGO, AND

ULTIMATELY LIFT SANCTIONS

ON THEIR BALLISTIC

PROGRAM, AND ALL THE WHILE

ALLOWING THEM TO DEVELOP

THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

THAT MEANS IN JUST A FEW

YEARS, IRAN WILL HAVE A

STRONGER ECONOMY, AND THEY

WITHSTAND FUTURE SANCTIONS

IF THEY CHEAT ON A DEAL,

AND THEY'LL HAVE A

STRONGER CONVENTIONAL

ARMY.

Chris: DO YOU THINK

THIS DEAL COULD LEAD TO

WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

I THINK THIS DEAL IS

MORE LIKELY TO PRODUCE A

WAR, RATHER THAN THE

OPPOSITE, LIKE PRESIDENT

OBAMA INTENDED.

AGAIN, THE OPPOSITE OF

WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA

INTENDED.

IN PART BECAUSE IT SHOWS

THAT THE UNITED STATES IS

NOT WILLING TO PLAY A

TRADITIONAL ROLE OF BEING

A FORCE OR STABILITY

THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING

OTHER COUNTRIES, LIKE

SAUDI ARABIA, OR UNIT ARAB

EMIRATES, TO TAKE THEIR

OWN PATH, TO PERHAPS GET

THEIR OWN NUCLEAR WEAPONS,

WHICH IS WHAT SOME LEADERS

OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE

SUGGESTED PUBLICLY, AND

MANY HAVE SUGGESTED

PRIVATELY TO ME AND OTHER

MEMBERS OF THE UNITED

STATES CONGRESS.

Chris: SENATOR,

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

Chris: UP NEXT, IT IS

THE WORST REFUGEE CRISIS

SINCE WORLD WAR II.

MIDDLE EASTERN AND

NORTHERN AFRICAN REFUGEES

ARE SWARMING EUROPE, AND

MANY WONDER WHEN IT WILL

STOP.

Chris: WELCOME BACK

TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."

REFUGEES FROM SYRIA, IRAQ,

AFGHANISTAN, AND NORTH

AFRICA ARE POURING INTO

EUROPE.

TRAGICALLY, MANY HAVE DIED

ON THEIR JOURNEY.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE

MIGRANT SEARCH DOESN'T

STOP.

DALE HURD REPORTS FROM

STOCKHOLM AND BRUSSELS.

Reporter: IT IS A

STAGGERING HUMANITARIAN

CRISIS.

THE LARGEST REFUGEE INFLUX

SINCE WORLD WAR II.

MORE THAN 300,000 AFRICANS

AND ASIANS HAVE CROSSED

EUROPE'S BORDER THIS YEAR,

DOUBLE LAST YEAR'S PACE.

HUNDREDS MORE HAVE DIED

TRYING IN JUST THE PAST

FEW WES.

BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS

TRAGEDY IS HOW IT WILL

CHANGE EUROPE.

NON-WESTERN MIGRANTS HAD

ALREADY BEEN FLOODING INTO

EUROPE FOR DECADES.

LEADERS REFUSED TO STOP IT

FOR MANY REASONS.

SOME SAW MIGRANTS AT CHEAP

LABOR.

OTHERS WERE BEING AFRAID

OF BEING BRANDED RACIST

FOR OPPOSING IT.

BUT EXPERTS WERE ASKING IF

EUROPE WOULD STILL BE

EUROPE IF IMMIGRANTS SOME

DAY OUTNUMBERED NATIVES.

IT IS INCREASINGLY

CLEAR IN WESTERN EUROPEAN

COUNTRIES THAT AS THE

POPULATION APPROACH A

TIPPING POINT, THERE ARE

INCREASING GROUPS OF

PEOPLE WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY

ASKING THE QUESTION, IF

THE POLITICAL

ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUES TO

GET ITS WAY, IN FIVE, 10,

20 YEARS TIME, HOW MANY

GERMANS ARE GOING TO BE

LEFT IN GERMANY, HOW MANY

ENGLISH PEOPLE ARE GOING

TO BE LEFT IN ENGLISH.

Reporter: THIS FRENCH

WRITER CALLS THE INFLUX

THE GREAT REPLACEMENT, AND

SAYS IT IS THE BIGGEST

THING TO HAPPEN TO FRANCE

SINCE THE 15th CENTURY.

BECAUSE WHAT IS

HAPPENING IS THE

POPULATION IS CHANGING.

CAN FRANCE BE THE SAME

WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE?

OBVIOUSLY, THE ANSWER IS

NO.

Reporter: FOR YEARS,

SWEDEN HAS TAKEN IN MORE

MIGRANTS PER CAPITA THAN

ANY OTHER EUROPEAN NATION,

AND THE EXPERIMENT HAS NOT

GONE WELL.

SEGREGATION AND

UNEMPLOYMENT AMONG

MIGRANTS REMAIN HIGH.

PREDOMINANTLY MIGRANT

GANGS HAVE DEVELOPED THE

HABIT RECENTLY OF THROWING

HAND GRENADES DURING EACH

OTHER DURING STREET

BATTLES.

SOME AREAS HAVE BECOME

DANGEROUS FOR LAW

ENFORCEMENT TO ENTER.

OFFICIALS DENIED THAT THE

AREAS ARE NO-GO ZONES, BUT

WHAT WAS DESCRIBED TO US

CERTAINLY SOUNDED LIKE

NO-GO ZONES.

POLICE OFFICERS AND

ALSO FIRE AND AMBULANCE

SERVICES, THEY'RE COMING

TO THESE AREAS AND THEY

ARE ATTACKED.

THEY ARE -- THE KIDS ARE

THROWING STONES AT THEM.

THERE ARE MORE OR LESS

RIOTS.

THERE ARE FIREARMS,

HANDGUNS, ESPECIALLY.

Reporter: THIS

SWEDISH ECONOMIST, TINO

SANANDAJI, SAYS HIS

ECONOMY FACES COLLAPSE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A

NOSTRODAMUS TO PREDICT THE

FUTURE.

YOU CAN GO TO THE CITIES

THAT ARE 20 YEARS AHEAD

DEMOGRAPHICALLY, AND

THAT'S WHAT SWEDEN IS

GOING TO BE.

AND OF THE 300

MUNICIPALITIES, IT IS THE

BOTTOM 10.

EMPLOYMENT, UNEMPLOYMENT,

SCHOOL OUTCOMES, POVERTY.

Reporter: SWEDISH

IMMIGRATION POLICY DOESN'T

WORK, THE STATISTICS

CLEARLY PROVE IT.

SO WHY IS SWEDEN BRINGING

IN MORE AND MORE IM

IMMIGRANTS?

AND WHY ARE OPPONENTS IN

SWEDEN AND OTHER NATIONS

BRANDED AS RACIST.

IT BASICALLY MAKES THE

PASSAGE MORE DANGEROUS

WITH FENCES.

Reporter: THEY SAY IT

HAS BECOME A KIND OF

RELIGIOUS SUBSTITUTE.

IF YOU WANT TO SORT OF

PSYCHOLOGYIZE, SWEDEN IS

ONE OF THE MOST SECULAR

COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.

THEY LOST THEIR MORAL

GROUNDING.

BECAUSE TH THE ELITIST,

ESPECIALLY, NEED SOME

MORALITY.

INSTEAD, THEIR VALUES ARE

ANTI-RACISM.

THEY CREATED THIS

ALTERNATIVE REALITY FOR

THEMSELVES.

BUT IN 1930s, AND

THEY'RE THE GUYS FIGHTING

HITLER.

Reporter: BUT MORE

AND MORE SWEDES SEEM TO

FINALLY HAVE HAD ENOUGH

BECAUSE THE

ANTI-IMMIGRATION SWEDEN

DEMOCRATS ARE THE MOST

POPULAR PARTY IN THE

COUNTRY.

THE LOCAL

MUNICIPALITIES,

GOVERNMENTS AND

AUTHORITIES THAT RUN A

COUNTRY, THEY'RE ALL

SAYING, IT IS NOT WORKING.

WE'RE STANDING BEFORE A

COLLAPSE OF THE SYSTEM

ALMOST IN SWEDEN.

PEOPLE LIVING IN THE

MULTI-CULTURAL CHAOS THEY

CREATED, THEY SEE THIS.

Reporter: RIGHT-WING

NATIONAL PARTIES ARE

STRENGTHENING IN MOST

EUROPEAN NATIONS BECAUSE

IN MANY CASES, THE

ESTABLISHMENT SEEMS

UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO

STOP THE MIGRANT INFLUX.

A NEW POLL SHOWS

IMMIGRATION IS THE NUMBER

ONE ISSUE IN EUROPE.

WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW

UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION?

IT IS MADNESS.

BUT IT IS A POLITICAL

THING, YOU SEE.

AS LONG AS YOU'VE GOT

THESE OPEN BORDERS, THE

LEFT-WING POLITICAL LEAGUE

CAN SAY WE'RE GOOD PEOPLE

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RACIST

LIKE THE NASTY PEOPLE WHO

WANT TO CONTROL

IMMIGRATION.

Reporter: ALMOST A

MILLION MIGRANTS HAVE

ARRIVE IN GERMANY THIS

YEAR ALONE.

GERMAN SUPPORT FOR OPEN

BORDERS IS FALLING.

THE FEAR OF OPEN BORDERS

IN EUROPE SEEMS TO TO BE THE

SAME FEAR THAT HELPING

DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN

FOR PRESIDENT.

DESPERATE PEOPLE ARE IN

NEED OF BEING HELPED.

BUT MANY ARE ASKING, WHAT

WOULD HAPPEN TO EUROPE IF

THE REFUGEE SURGE DOESN'T

STOP?

DALE HURD, CBN NEWS,

REPORTING FROM EUROPE.

Chris: COMING UP, A

DEEPER LOOK INTO ISIS WITH

ISLAMIC EXPERT ROBERT

SPENCER.

WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE AND

WHY THEY POSE A THREAT TO

THE REST OF THE WORLD.

Chris: WELCOME BACK

TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."

PRESIDENT OBAMA ONCE

CALLED THEM THE J.V. TEAM,

BUT ISIS IS A DEADLY

TERRORIST GROUP.

THEY'RE COMMITTING

UNSPEAKABLE MURDERS AND AT

STROS CENTURIESATROCITIES.

BUT MANY DON'T KNOW MUCH

ABOUT THIS RADICAL GROUP.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: ISIS, OR

THE ISLAMIC STATE, BURST

ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE

IN 2014, WHEN IT TOOK OVER

HUGE SWATHS OF IRAQ AND

SYRIA.

TODAY ISIS CONTROLS THE

LAND AREA THE SIZE OF

GREAT BRITAIN AND IS THE

WEALTHIEST JIHADIST

ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.

AS IT EXPANDS, ISLAMIC

STATE FORCES BRING CHAOS

AND SAVAGERY WHEREVER THEY

GO.

DESPITE WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT

ISIS, THERE IS MUCH THAT

REMAINS MYSTERIOUS, UNTIL

NOW.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, "THE

COMPLETE INFIDEL'S GUIDE

TO ISIS," ROBERT SPENCER

REVEALS EVERYTHING YOU

NEED TO TNEED TO KNOW ABOUT ISIS.

Chris: FIRST OF ALL,

ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR

BEING HERE.

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

Chris: FIRST OF ALL,

ROBERT, WHY DID YOU WRITE

THE BOOK?

I THINK THERE IS SO

MUCH MISINFORMATION AND

DISMOTIVATION ABOUT ISIS

AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, IT

IS HAM-STRINGING OUR

ABILITY TO DEAL WITH IT.

IT IS A UNIVERSAL THING.

IT IS NOT JUST THE

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES THAT SAYS ISIS HAS

NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM,

BUT THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT,

THE OPPOSITION PARTY, THE

PRIME MINISTER OF GREAT

BRITAIN.

VIRTUALLY EVERY AUTHORITY

IN THE WESTERN WORLD IS IN

DENIAL.

Chris: WHAT IS THE

MOTIVATING IDEOLOGY OF

ISIS AND WHAT ARE THEIR

GOALS?

ISIS IS QUINTESSENTIAL

QUINTESSENTIALLY ISLAMIC.

THEY ARE GUIDED BY THE

EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMAD AND

THE TEACHINGS OF THE

QURAN, WHICH MANDATES WAR.

THE ONLY EARTHLY AUTHORITY

IS TO THE CALIPH.

THIS HAS PROVEN ALREADY TO

BE AN EXTRAORDINARILY

POWERFUL CLAIM.

Chris: IT SEEMS

ALMOST LIKE A SIREN SONG

THAT ISIS IS DRAWING THEM

TO.

WHAT'S THE ATTRACTION?

THEY SAY THIS IS THE

PERFECT ISLAMIC STATE.

THIS IS THE ISLAMIC STATE

WHERE ISLAMIC LAW IS FULLY

IN EFFECT.

INOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD

CAN THIS BE SAID.

THIS IS THE ISLAMIC STATE

WHERE THERE IS THE CALIPH.

NOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD

CAN THAT BE SAID.

Chris: YOU WRITE

ABOUT IT IN THE BOOK THAT

ISIS HAS ACTUALLY

PENETRATED THE UNITED

STATES.

THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT

THIS COUPLE FROM

MISSISSIPPI STATE

UNIVERSITY THAT WERE

ARRESTED.

BUT ON THEIR WAY TO TRY TO

GET TO ISIS -- HOW HAS

ISIS PENETRATED THE UNITED

STATES?

THEY DO IT BY MEANS OF

SOCIAL MEDIA.

THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED

IN THEIR USE OF THE

INTERNET, OF TWITTER, OF

Facebook.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS NOT

SO MUCH THE MEANS BY WHICH

THE MESSAGE IS CONVEYED,

BUT THE MESSAGE ITSELF.

AND THAT MESSAGE IS

POWERFUL AMONG AMERICAN

MUSLIMS BECAUSE IT IS SO

DEEPLY ROOTED WITHIN

ISLAMIC TRADITION.

Chris: WHAT IS THEIR

VIEW OF THE END TIMES?

DO THEY FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON

THE PRES BU PRESIBUS OF THE LAST

TIMES?

YES.

THEY EXPECT TO BE FIGHTING

THE TITANIC LAST BATTLE

BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND

NON-MUSLIMS.

THAT'S PROPHESIED,

ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC

TRADITION, BY MUHAMMAD

HIMSELF.

HE SAID THAT THE ROMANS,

BY WHICH HE APPEARED TO

HAVE MEANT THE CHRISTIANS

AND ALL OF THE

NON-MUSLIMS, WOULD GATHER

AT DOBIK, WHICH THE

ISLAMIC STATE ACTUALLY

DOES CONTROL AT THIS TIME.

Chris: WHAT WE'RE

SEEING IN THE NEWS IN THIS

PART OF THE WORLD IS A

HUGE WAVE OF MIGRANTS

THROWING INTO EUROPE FROM

PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN

AND SYRIA AND IRAQ.

DO YOU SEE THIS AS A

POTENTIAL DANGER TO

WESTERN EUROPEAN

COUNTRIES?

THERE IS NO DOUBT IT IS

AN ABSOLUTE AND IMMEDIATE

DANGER.

YESTERDAY THERE WERE

DISCOVERED SEVERAL ISLAMIC

STATE JIHADIS AMONG THOSE

SO-CALLED MIGRANTS.

THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS

ALREADY THREATENED, WE'RE

GOING TO FLOOD EUROPE WITH

REFUGEES.

THEY MEAN REFUGEES WHO

WILL INCLUDE AMONG THEM

JIHAD WARRIORS.

Chris: AND WHAT KIND

OF DANGER DOES ISIS

REPRESENT TO CHRISTIANITY

IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD?

THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS

VOWED TO REIMPOSE THE

SYSTEM OF DINITUD, THAT

MANDATES SECOND-CLASS

STATUS FOR CHRISTIANS AND

OTHER NON-MUSLIM.

THEY VE A PAY A SPECIAL

TAX, AND DENYING THEM

BASIC RIGHTS UNDER THE

RULE OF THE MUSLIMS.

THE ENTIRE AREA OF MOSUL,

WHICH HAD BEEN A CHRISTIAN

AREA SINCE THE TIME OF

JESUS, IS NOW COMPLETELY

CLEAR OF CHRISTIANS.

THE ARCHBISHOP OF MOSUL

SAID, I HAVE LOST MY

ENTIRE DIACIS TO ISLAM.

Chris: WE HAD THE

OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE

TO INTERVIEW SOME OF THE

PEOPLE THAT FLED ISIS.

ROBERT, IF YOU HAD TO TAKE

A 30,000-FOOT VIEW OF THE

MIDDLE EAST, SO MUCH

FIGHTING GOING ON, WHAT

WOULD YOU SAY -- WHAT DO

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE

MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW?

THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT

THE GROUPS LIKE ISIS ARE

NOT SOME TWISTED, HIJACKED

VERSION OF ISLAM THAT IS A

TERROR GROUP THAT IS AB

ABHORED OR REJECTED BY

MUSLIMS.

THEY ARE WINNING BROAD

SUPPORT AMONG PEACEFUL

MUSLIMS BY VIRTUAL OF

JUSTIFYING AND EXPLAINING

THEIR ACTIONS WITH

REFERENCE TO ISLAMIC TEXTS

AND TEACHINGS.

THE QURAN AND THE SUNA,

THE EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMAD.

IT IS AN APPEAL FAR

BROADER THAN JUST THE

ISLAMIC STATE ITSELF.

WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT IF

WE'RE EVER GOING TO COME

UP WITH ANY EFFECTIVE

MEANS TO COUNTER IT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO

REMEMBER THIS IS A SPIRIT

SPIRITUAL BATTLE.

THEY SAY THEY WILL WIN

BECAUSE THEY LOVE DEATH

MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE.

BUT WE KNOW THE AUTHOR

WILL NOT ALLOW DEATH TO

CONQUER LIFE.

BUT WE HAVE TO UERSTAND

THIS IS, AS THEY SAY,HE

STRUGGLE BETWEEN GOOD AND

EVIL IN A VERY STARK

SENSE.

Chris: HOW WOULD YOU

DESCRIBE OR CHARACTERIZE

OR ASSESS THE BATTLE BY

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

AND BY OTHER WESTERN

POWERS AGAINST ISIS?

THEY'RE IN COMPLETE

DENIAL.

OBAMA INSISTS THAT THE

ISLAMIC STATE IS NOT

ISLAMIC.

IT HAMSTRINGS US.

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT AN ENEMY

THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

AND THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO

UNDERSTAND THIS ENEMY.

Chris: ROBERT,

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE

BOOK.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE WITH

US ON "JERUSALEM

DATELINE," AND ALL OF THE

BEST.

A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

Chris: UP NEXT, A

LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE

STORIES FROM LAST SEASON,

AND A LOOK AHEAD TO THE

NEXT.

Chris: WELCOME BACK

TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."

THE BROADCAST YEAR, AS

OPPOSEDO THE CALENDAR

YEAR, BEGINS IN THE FALL.

WE'VE JUST FINISHED SEASON

FOUR OF "JERUSALEM

DATELINE," AND WE'RE NOW

BEGINNING SEASON FIVE.

THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN

ABLE TO COVER THE MAJOR

EVENTS OF THE YEAR IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, INCLUDING THE

EXPANSION OF ISIS, THE

SIGNING OF THE IRANIAN

NUCLEAR DEAL, A PIVOTAL

ELECTION HERE IN ISRAEL,

AND GROUNDBREAKING

ARCHEOLOGICAL DISCOVERIES

AND PROPHECY FULFILLED AS

THE JUDICIAL PEOPLE RETURN

TO ISRAEL.

WE LOOK AHEAD THIS YEAR TO

COVER MORE OF THOSE MAJOR

EVENTS TAKING PLACE HERE

IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT

SHAPE HISTORY AND AFFECT

YOUR LIFE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING

US ALONG THE JOURNEY.

REMEMBER, YOU CAN FOLLOW

US ON Facebook AND

TWITTER THROUGHOUT THE

WEEK.

AND NOW ALONG WITH

PERISCOPE.

I'M CHRIS MITCHELL, WE'LL

SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON

"JERUSALEM DATELINE."

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