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The Brody File: Warriors - October 15, 2015

The Brody File speaks with religious liberty warriors Kim Davis and Barronelle Stutzman. Plus, culture war warrior Mike Huckabee is here along with an interview with war hero warrior Senator John McCain. Read Transcript


David: AND WELCOME

BACK, EVERYBODY, TO "THE

BRODY FILE."

GLAD YOU'RE WITH US.

LOOK, WE BEGIN THIS WEEK

WITH THE WOMAN EVERYONE IS

TALKING ABOUT, KIM DAVIS.

SOME LOVE HER, SOME CAN'T

STAND HER, BUT THE COUNTY

CLERK FROM KENTUCKY IS

STANDING STRONG AFTER

REFUSING TO ISSUE MARRIAGE

LICENSES TO GAY COUPLES

BECAUSE OF HER CHRISTIAN

BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES.

SHE WENT TO JAIL FOR HER

STANCE, AND SHE IS NOW

FREE, BUT MORE JAIL TIME

COULD, INDEED, BE JUST

AROUND THE CORNER BECAUSE

THIS SAGA IS DEFINITELY

NOT OVER YET.

DAVIS MAY NOT BE THE

PERFECT CANDIDATE TO STAND

FOR BIBLICAL MARRIAGE,

CONSIDERING SHE HAS BEEN

MARRIED THREE TIMES, BUT

AFTER GIVING HER LIFE TO

JESUS CHRIST, EVERYTHING

CHANGED.

SHE IS, INDEED, A FORGIVEN

WOMAN.

AND WE SPOKE TO HER HERE

IN D.C., WITH HER LAWYER,

MATT STAVER, BY HER SIDE.

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO JUST

BE OUT OF JAIL.

PRAISE THE LORD.

I FEEL VERY BLESSED.

THE LORD SAYS WE HAVE TO

CONSIDER IT ALL A JOY TO

BE IN SERVICE FOR THE

LORD.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY -- I

HAVE A PEACE IN MY SOUL

AND A JOY IN MY HEART THAT

NOTHING IN THIS WORLD CAN

TAKE AWAY.

David: WERE YOU --

NOT EXPECTING THIS, BUT

WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED

BACK AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S

OFFICE, DID YOU EXPECT ALL

OF THIS TO KIND OF HAPPEN

LIKE THIS?

IT BECAME MORE THAN JUST A

MEDIA SENSATION, BUT THIS

WHOLE HUGE RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY?

NO.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE IN A

MILLION YEARS I WOULD BE

HERE IN THIS POSITION,

WITH ALL OF EVERYTHING

THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.

AND IT IS JUST ALL VERY

OVERWHELMING.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A

WORLD-WIND, BUT I CALL IT

IS A FIRESTORM.

I'M THRUST IN THE MIDST OF

THE FIRE, BUT THAT IS HOW

MY GOD WILL PURIFY ME AND

BRING ME ABOUT TO BE

STRONGER AND MORE

FAITHFUL.

David: TELL ME A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT

WAS LIKE IN THAT JAIL

CELL?

WHAT WAS LIFE LIKE FOR

YOU?

WELL, I WAS BY MYSELF.

AND, ACTUALLY, I WAS VERY

BLESSED.

I GOT TO READ THE WORD.

I GOT TO PRAY A LOT.

I GOT TO STUDY THE WORD.

I DID BIBLE STUDIES FOR

MYSELF.

I WOULD WALK AROUND AND

RAISE MY HANDS AND SING

PRAISES TO THE LORD AND TO

THE TOPS OF MY LUNGS.

I KNOW THE PEOPLE THERE

PROBABLY THOUGHT I WAS

CRAZY, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

IN EVERY SITUATION, I

DON'T WANT MY SITUATION TO

DICTATE MY JOY IN THE

LORD.

SO NO MATTER WHERE I'M AT

AND NO MATTER WHAT IS

GOING ON, HE ALWAYS NEEDS

TO GET THE PRAISE AND THE

GLORY BECAUSE HE IS

WORTHY.

David: I UNDERSTAND

THAT.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT DAY,

THAT DAY YOU FOUND OUT YOU

WERE GETTING OUT OF JAIL.

TAKE ME THROUGH THE

PROCESS.

HOW DID YOU FIND OUT AND

WHAT HAPPENED FROM THAT

POINT?

I HAD GOT IN THE SHOWER

THAT MORNING AND I WAS

CLEANED UP AND READY TO --

I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO

HAVE VISITATION.

IT WAS ON A TUESDAY, AND

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE

VISITATION ON A TUESDAY.

BUT THEY HAD LINED UP

ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE TO VISIT

ME.

SO I WAS GETTING DRESSED

AND PREPARED FOR THAT.

AND THEY CAME TO MY DOOR

WITH A BAG OF WHAT I HAD

PUT MY CLOTHES IN

ORIGINALLY FROM THAT

THURSDAY.

AND THEY HAD A PIECE OF

PAPER IN THEIR HAND.

AND THEY SAID, I'VE GOT AN

ORDER HERE FROM JUDGE

BUDDINBUDBENNING TO RELEASE YOU.

I SAID, LET ME SEE

THAT.

AND SO I TOOK THE PAPER

AND SAID, PRAISE JESUS.

AND THEY SED, THER SAID, THERE IS A

CONDITION ON THAT, THAT

YOU DON'T INTERFERE WITH

YOUR DEPUTIES ISSUING

LICENSES.

AND I SAID, WELL, I'LL

JUST STAY HERE THEN.

AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T

HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO KEEP

ME.

SO I GOT DRESSED AND WENT

OUT AND MEETING EVERYBODY

WAS SUCH A HUMBLING

EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THERE

WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE,

GATHERED TO SUPPORT ME AND

THIS CAUSE WE'RE ALL IN

THE MIDST OF.

BECAUSE THIS ISN'T -- THIS

ISN'T ABOUT KIM DAVIS.

IT IS MUCH LARGER THAN I

EVER COULD POSSIBLY BE.

IT IS ABOUT EACH AND EVERY

ONE OF US, CHRISTIANS AND

PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE

TALKING TO THE LORD BUT

HAVEN'T COMMITTED THEIR

LIFE TO HIM.

THERE IS A LOT AT STAKE

HERE.

SO JUST TO SEE ALL OF

THOSE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT

THE IDEA OF RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY AND THE FREEDOM TO

PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION, IT

WAS JUST OVERWHELMING AND

STILL IS.

IT'S LIKE WALKING OUT INTO

ELECTRICITY THAT HITS YOU

IN THE FACE AND COVERS

YOUR WHOLE BODY.

David: ON THE

PODIUM, WHAT WAS THAT

LIKE?

I WAS SHAKING ALL OVER.

TETHEY WERE TRYING TO GET

THE MICROPHONE OUT OF MY

HAND, AND I WOULDN'T LET

GO OF IT.

I THOUGHT IF THEY TOOK IT,

I WOULDN'T GET IT BACK.

THE SPIRIT OF GOD WAS

DEFINITELY JUST ALL UP ON

ME.

IT WAS GOOD.

David: YOU KNOW WHAT

IS INTERESTING TO ME, WHAT

I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, GOD

NEVER TAKES, SO TO SPEAK,

THE PERFECT PEOPLE -- NONE

OF US ARE PERFECT.

BUT HERE YOU ARE, A

DEMOCRAT, SO TO SPEAK, AND

SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME

STRUGGLES IN HER LIFE --

WE'VE ALL HAD STRUGGLES,

BUT GOD USES FOLKS LIKE

YOURSELF.

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT

ABOUT THAT?

HOW GOD IS JUST USING

FOLKS IN ALL DIFFERENT

WAYS, AND FOLKS THAT --

IT'S ALL THROUGHOUT THE

BIBLE, REALLY.

YEAH.

I STRUGGLED WITH -- I

STRUGGLED WITH THAT

MYSELF.

WHY WOULD GOD, OF ALL

PEOPLE, CHOOSE ME WITH MY

PAST, TO STAND UP AND

DEFEND SOMETHING THAT I

HAD FAILED SO MISERABLY AT

IN THE WORLD?

AND THEN I HAVE TO

REMEMBER THAT I'M A NEW

PERSON.

WHEN I GAVE MY LIFE TO

CHRIST, HIS BLOOD CLEANSED

ME, WASHED ME CLEAN.

AND THE OLD HAS PASSED

AWAY.

AND THE NEW STANDS IN

FRONT OF YOU.

AND, YEAH, I'M A VERY

UNLIKELY PERSON TO STAND

AND TO STAND FOR THE WORD

OF GOD.

David: YOU KNOW,

HAVE YOU THOSE CRITICS OUT

THERE, SO TO SPEAK, BUT

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW

YOU JUST PLAY TO THAT

AUDIENCE OF ONE.

YOUR AUDIENCE IS GOD, AND

THE CRITICS DO WHAT

THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

YEAH.

WHAT THEY SAY AND THINK

ABOUT ME DOESN'T DEFINE

WHO I AM.

THAT NEVER REALLY BOTHERED

ME.

BUT THE SCRIPTURE THAT

COMES TO MY MIND IS, WHAT

CAN MAN DO TO ME.

GOD DID NOT GIVE ME A

SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT OF

POWER AND LOVE AND OF A

SOUND MIND.

AND THAT HAS CARRIED ME.

THAT HAS CARRIED ME.

David: THAT IS KIM

DAVIS ON "THE BRODY FILE."

I'M SURE WE HAVEN'T SEEN

THE LAST OF THIS STORY.

A QUICK LITTLE SIDE NOTE,

HOW ABOUT THAT WHOLE

SITUATION WITH KIM DAVIS

AND THE POPE.

THEY MET WHILE HE WAS IN

WASHINGTON, D.C.

BUT WHAT ACTUALLY

TRANSPIRED DURING THE

CONVERSATION IS NOW THE

SUBJECT OF A BIG DEBATE.

DAVIS' LAWYER SAYS THE

POPE THANKED DAVIS FOR HER

COURAGE AND TOLD HER TO

STAY STRONG.

AND HE ALSO SED IT WA SAID IT WAS A

PRIVATE 15-MINUTE MEETING.

BUT THE MEDIA CAN'T QUITE

BELIEVE THAT.

SO THEY PUSHED THE VATICAN

ON WHAT WENT DOWN, AND

THEN CAME THIS RESPONSE.

HERE WE GO, THIS IS FROM

THE VATICAN: "THE POPE DID

NOT ENTER INTO THE DETAILS

OF THE SITUATION OF

MRS. DAVIS AND HIS MEETING

WITH HER SHOULD NOT BE

CONSIDERED A FORM OF

SUPPORT OF HER POSITION IN

ALL OF ITS PARTICULAR AND

COMPLEX ASPECTS."

THAT FROM VATICAN

SPOKESPERSON FATHER

FEDERICO LU LOMBARDI.

WHATEVER THE BOTTOM LINE,

KIM DAVIS A HERO TO

MILLIONS OF CONSERVATIVE

CHRISTIANS.

> ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE

COME BACK, ONE-ON-ONE WITH

SENATOR JOHN McCAIN.

HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE

IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL, AND HE

IS NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

UP NEXT THIS WEEK ON THE

SHOW, SENATOR JOHN

McCAIN.

HE WAS NOT HAPPY TO SEE

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, JOHN

BOEHNER, ANNOUNCE HIS

RESIGNATION.

CLEARLY PRESSURE FROM

HOUSE CONSERVATIVES WAS

BEHIND IT, AND THAT IS

SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED,

ALONG WITH THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION'S NUCLEAR

DEAL WITH IRAN.

SPEAKER BOEHNER OBVIOUSLY

RESIGNING.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO

BEGIN.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS

EXACTLY?

I THINK IT MEANS THERE

ARE PROBLEMS IN THE HOUSE

OF REPRESENTATIVES IN THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE LESSON

IN THIS FROM ALL OF US IS

WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN

TOGETHER AS REPUBLICANS

AND RECOGNIZE WHO THE

ADVERSARY IS.

IT IS NOT EACH OTHER.

IT IS THE DEMOCRATS.

IT IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT

OF THE UNITED STATES.

WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER

BARACK OBAMA.

SO WE SHOULD SIT DOWN

TOGETHER AND COME

TOGETHER.

AND THAT MEANS A DIALOGUE.

THAT MEANS MEETING OF THE

MINDS.

THAT MEANS AGREEING TO A

COMMON AGENDA.

IT IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY TO SEE US

AT ODDS TO THE POINT WHERE

THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE

OF REPRESENTATIVES, WHO

WAS ELECTED, HAS TO

RESIGN.

I HAPPEN TO BE A GREAT

ADMIRER AND FRIEND OF JOHN

BOEHNER, SO I'M VERY, VERY

SORRY THIS HAS HAPPENED.

David: THE IRAN

NUCLEAR DEAL, WHAT IS YOUR

BIGGEST CONCERN GOING

FORWARD IN TERMS OF A YEAR

DOWN THE ROAD, TWO YEARS

DOWN THE ROAD?

WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR

CONCERNS AND POTENTIAL

OPPORTUNITIES HERE, OR ARE

THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES

HERE AT ALL?

I SEE NO OPPORTUNITY

EXCEPT YOUR GIVING

$100 BILLION OR MORE TO

THE IRANIANS, WHO ARE NOW

IN CONTROL IN YEMEN,

SYRIA, IRAQ, AND LEBANON.

THEY'RE GIVING ARMS TO THE

TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN.

THEY'RE ON THE MOVE

EVERYWHERE, AND THEY'RE

THE WORLD'S GREATEST

SPONSOR OF TERROR.

AND THE AYATOLLAH RECENTLY

SAID, DEATH TO ISRAEL,

DEATH TO AMERICA.

IT IS AN EXOSENTIAL

THREAT.

THIS IS A BAD DEAL.

I HOPE I'M WRONG.

I PRAY THAT I'M WRONG.

BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IS AN

ESCALATION TO THE POINT

WHERE ALL OF THE OTHER

NATIONS IN THE REGION ARE

GOING TO GO NUCLEAR, AND

IT WILL BE A TINDER BOX.

AND FINALLY, ALL I CAN SAY

IS THAT THERE IS A SMALL

HUMAN DIMENSION TO IT.

THERE ARE FOUR AMERICANS

BEING HELD IN PRISON IN

IRAN, INCLUDING A REPORTER

FROM THE "WASHINGTON

POST," FOR NO REASON.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL OF

THESE OTHER ISSUES,

LIFTING RESTRICTIONS ON

CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS AND

BALLISTIC MISSILE

CAPABILITY, ETC.

BUT WE DIDN'T DEMAND THE

RETURN OF FOUR INNOCENT

AMERICANS?

THAT SHOWS YOU THE

DESPERATION THAT JOHN

KERRY AND THE PRESIDENT

HAD TO GET AN AGREEMENT.

David: IT IS THE LAW

OF THE LAND, SO TO SPEAK,

AND IT DOES CALL FOR THE

SIDE DEALS TO BE PRESENT.

I KNOW RAND PAUL SAID HE

BELIEVES THE PRESIDENT

COULD BE I IN DEFIANCE OF

THE LAW.

I THINK HE IS IN

DEFIANCE OF THE LAW.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE

LAWSUITS THAT BRING HIM --

WE OUGHT TO GO TO COURT ON

THIS ONE BECAUSE I

BELIEVE, AS USED JUST

MENTIONED, IT IS IN

VIOLATION OF THE LAW THAT

WAS PASSED THAT REQUIRED A

FULL AND COMPLETE

UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF

THE DETAILS OF THE

AGREEMENT.

David: JOHN McCAIN

ON "THE BRODY FILE."

ALL RIGHT, COMING NEXT,

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

MIKE HUCKABEE.

HE HAS A FEW THINGS TO GET

OFF HIS CHEST ABOUT

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE

WAY HE IS TREATING

CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA.

WE DISCUSS THAT IN A

MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

ALL RIGHT, TIME NOW FOR

OUR CHAT WITH G.O.P.

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

MIKE HUCKABEE.

HE IS NOT AMONG THE TOP

TIER AT THIS POINT, BUT HE

IS PLUGGING AWAY.

IF HE CAN MAKE IT TO THE

TOP FIVE OR SEVEN, WE'LL

SEE HIS EXCELLENT DEBATING

SKILLS.

WE DID CATCH UP WITH HIM

RECENTLY AT THE VALUE

VOTERS' SUMMIT AS WE WENT

INTO BRODY FILE FULL

STALKINGODE.

> THERE WERE SOME

REPORTS ABOUT YOU

CONCERNED ABOUT -- WELL,

I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN ABOUT

IT, OR TALK ABOUT IT.

THIS IDEA THAT PRESIDENT

OBAMA TALKS ABOUT HIS

CHRISTIAN FAITH, BUT THEN

THE PRINCIPLES DON'T SEEM

TO FOLLOW.

I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN SOME

OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT HERE.

THIS IS A GUY WHO SAYS

HE IS CHRISTIAN, AND HE

BELIEVES THE BIBLE, AND

THAT'S WHY HE IS FOR

TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE AND

THEN HE SAYS HE IS NOT

ANYMORE.

HE GETS WITH THE NATIONAL

PRAYER BREAKFAST AND

CRITICIZES HIS

CHRISTIANITY FOR SOMETHING

THAT HAPPENED A THOUSAND

YEARS AGO.

HE GETS UPON EASTER AND

HAS A VERY HARSH TONE AND

BELITTLE SO MANY OF THE

CHRISTIANS HE SAYS HE HAS

KNOWN THAT HE APPARENTLY

DOESN'T LIKE.

HE GOES AFTER THE "LITTLE

SISTERS OF THE POOR" WITH

HIS ADMINISTRATION, AND

"HOHOBBY LOBBY."

IT SEEMS THERE IS THIS

TARGET FOR CHRISTIANS, AND

HE DOESN'T LIFT A FINGER

TO HELP KIM DAVIS, AN

ELECTED OFFICIAL, A FELLOW

DEMOCRAT DOWN IN KENTUCKY.

BUT WE ACCOMMODATE NADAL

HASAN, THE FORT HOOD

SHOOTER, WHO KILLED 14

PEOPLE.

WE LET HIM GROW HIS BEARD

WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL.

WE GIVE THEM PRAYER RUGS.

WE GIVE THEM FIVE TIMES A

DAY TO PRAY AND HALAL

MEALS THAT ARE THREE TIMES

THE COST OF THE MEALS THAT

OUR SOLDIERS EAT WHO GUARD

THE DETAINEES.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE

REALITIES HERE AND SAYING,

COULD YOU SHOW US A LITTLE

LOVE HERE?

IF YOU REALLY SAY THAT YOU

LOVE US AND YOU'RE ONE OF

US, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A

LITTLE AFFECTION.

David: SCOTT WALKER

DROPPING OUT OF THE RACE

AND EVERYTHING, HOW MUCH

DOES THE FIELD NEED TO BE

WHITTLED DOWN FOR YOU AND

OTHERS TO GAIN SOME

TRACTION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS

IN THIS FIELD?

THERE ARE, BUT THAT IS

NOT NECESSARILY NEGATIVE.

THIS IS THE BASKIN-ROBBINS

OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.

PEOPLE HAVE LOTS OF

FLAVORS TO CHOOSE FROM,

AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A

LOT OF SAMPLING.

THAT'S TYPICAL.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE

ANOTHER 14 CANDIDATES DROP

OUT, LEAVING ME ON THE

FIELD BY MYSELF.

BUT BARRING THAT, I JUST

HAVE TO KEEP WORKING HARD,

ORGANIZING IN THE EARLIER

STATES AND WIN.

David: THAT IS MIKE

HUCKABEE HERE ON "THE

BRODY FILE."

WHEN THE SHOW ROLLS ON,

ALL SHE WANTS TO DO IS

MAKE FLORAL ARRANGEMENTS

IN PEACE.

BUT INSTEAD HER LIFE COULD

BE TORN TO PIECES.

A CONVERSATION ABOUT

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY WITH BAR

BEABARNBARONELLE STUTSMAN, THAT'S

NEXT.

BEAR

BAROBARN STUTS STUTS

David: AND WE'RE

BACK ON THE BIG SHOW.

IT'S A HUGE SHOW.

HEY, HER NAME IS BARONELLE

STUTZMAN, AND ALL SHE

WANTS TO DO IS CONTINUE TO

RUN HER STORE.

IT'S CALLED ARLENE'S

FLOWERS OUT IN WASHINGTON

STATE.

THIS IS VIDEO.

INSTEAD, SHE'S BEEN IN A

WORLD OF LEGAL STRUGGLE

AFTER REFUSING TO SELL

FLOWERS TO A GAY COUPLE

FOR THEIR WEDDING.

IT IS STILL IN COURT.

SO FAR LIBERAL JUDGES

HAVEN'T BEEN TOO KIND TO

HER, BUT SHE IS NOT

BACKING DOWN FROM THE

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY FIGHT.

WE SPOKE WITH BARONELLE

HERE IN WASHINGTON.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT

THIS WHOLE PROCESS?

THIS IS MY DR. PHIL

QUESTION, TELL ME HOW YOU

FEEL ABOUT HOW THIS HAS

AFFECTED YOU?

THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH

RIDE.

THIS HAS BEEN AN

EXCITING RIDE AND A

BLESSED RIDE.

I'M SO THAN THANKFUL FOR THE

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN

PRAYING FOR US.

GOD HAS BEEN -- MIRACLE

AFTER MIRACLE HAS

HAPPENED.

AND SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE,

EVEN IN THE GAY COMMUNITY,

HAS COME IN.

I CAN'T SAY IT HASN'T BEEN

A STRUGGLE, BUT IT HAS

BEEN A BLESSING.

David: YOU MENTIONED

THE GAY COMMUNITY.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE FOLKS

ENCOURAGING YOU?

WE HAVE SEVERAL GAY

COSTUMERS AND WE'VE HAD

GAY EMPLOYEES AND BISEXUAL

EMPLOYEES, AND WE HAVE A

GAY COUPLE THAT COME IN,

TWO WOMEN, AND THEY'VE

DEALT WITH THIS FOR YEARS.

AND THEY SAID, YOU HAVE

EVERY RIGHT TO DO WHAT

YOU'RE DOING.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO

SHOP HERE.

WHEN I HEAR THAT, THAT

MAKES ME VERY HUMBLE, BUT

IT ALSO MAKES ME VERY

THANKFUL.

David: TELL ME A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE

THIS ALL STANDS NOW.

WE'LL GET TO THE LEGAL

PART OF IT IN A MOMENT.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT

YOUR MINDSET IS, ABOUT

WHAT YOU DO NOW IN THE

FIGHT AND HOW YOU KIND OF

KEEP GOING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK MIGHT BE

NEXT?

DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF

HOW THIS MIGHT PLAY OUT?

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING

HERE?

I'M NOT THINKING MUCH.

MY PRAYER IS THAT WHATEVER

GOD HAS, HE'LL PREPARE US

FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS

COMING NEXT.

AND IT REALLY DOESN'T

MATTER BECAUSE IT IS UNDER

HIS CONTROL.

SO WHEREVER HE PUTS ME OR

WHEREVER HE BRINGS ME TO,

THEN IT'S OKAY BECAUSE I

KNOW HE'S IN CHARGE.

David: IF YOU TYPE

YOUR NAME ON GOOGLE,

BARONELLE STUTZMAN, HERO,

YOU GET A LOT OF CLICKS.

BARONELLE STUTZMAN MARTYR,

YOU GET A LOT OF CLICKS.

EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS SEE

YOU AS SOMEONE FIGHTING

THE GOOD FIGHT.

HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF

EXACTLY?

A SINNER SAVED BY

GRACE.

AND I'M NOT A HERO AND I'M

NOT A MARTYR.

I JUST TRY TO BE OBEDIENT.

David: TELL ME A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE

FINANCIAL IMPACT THIS

EITHER HAS HAD ON YOU,

POTENTIALLY WILL HAVE YOU,

AND HOW HARD THAT HAS

BEEN.

WELL, IF WE LOSE, THE

GOVERNMENT AND THE ACLU,

THE ATTORNEY FEES WILL BE

OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR

THE ACLU, AND IT WILL TAKE

EVERYTHING WE HAVE OWNED,

OUR RETIREMENT, OUR HOME

AND OUR BUSINESS BECAUSE

THEY'RE ALSO SUING US

PERSONALLY AND

CORPORATELY.

SO WE'LL POSSIBLY LOSE

EVERYTHING WE OWN.

David: I KNOW THERE

WAS -- MAYBE I CAN GET

YOUR OPINION ON THIS IN A

MOMENT, BUT I KNOW THERE

WAS A CHANCE OF A

SETTLEMENT OF SOME SORT,

WHERE YOU COULD, WHAT, PAY

A CERTAIN AMOUNT, A FINE,

AND KIND OF MOVE ON.

BUT YOU HELD FAST.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

WHAT THAT PROCESS WAS

LIKE, WHEN THAT JUDGE

TALKED ABOUT THAT.

IT WAS THE

ATTORNEY-GENERAL THAT

FIRST HAD THE FINE OF

$2,000, AND THAT I

CONTINUE TO DO GAY

WEDDINGS, AND AN APOLOGY.

AND WE SAID NO TO THAT.

AND THEN HE DROPPED IT

AFTER THE SETTLEMENT CAME.

THE JUDGE SAID WE WERE

GUILTY, AND WE COULD BE

RELIGIOUS, BUT WE -- WE

COULD HAVE OUR FAITH, BUT

WE COULDN'T PRACTICE OUR

FAITH.

AND THEN THEY DROPPED IT

TO $1,000, AND A DOLLAR

FOR LEGAL FEES.

BUT THAT'S THE SMALL PART.

THE LARGER PART IS THE

ACLU ATTORNEY'S FEES WILL

AMOUNT TO OVER A MILLION

DOLLARS.

BUT IT IS NOT ABOUT THE

MONEY.

IT IS ABOUT THE FREEDOM

AND OUR STAND FOR CHRIST.

CHRIST DIED FOR US, AND

YET I'M NOT WILLING TO

GIVE UP ANYTHING TO STAND

FOR HIM.

IT SEEMS A LITTLE SAD.

David: IT IS THE

PRINCIPLE OF IT ALL, YEAH.

WHERE WE'RE AT IN THIS

PROCESS LEGALLY, WHAT'S

THE ROAD FORWARD AT THIS

POINT?

WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE KNOW

ABOUT THE CASE?

WE APPEALED OUR CASE TO

THE WASHINGTON STATE

SUPREME COURT.

I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT

FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND

IS WHAT IS GOING ON HERE

IS TRULY UNPRECEDENTED.

WE HAVE NEVER IN OUR

COUNTRY SEEN AN

ATTORNEY-GENERAL COME

AFTER A PERSON SIMPLY FOR

STANDING UP FOR WHAT THEY

BELIEVE.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY SUING

HER IN HER PERSONAL

CAPACITY, BUT HER

BUSINESS.

WHICH MEANS SHE STANDS TO

LOSE EVERYTHING SHE OWNS.

THIS IS FIGHTING FOR

FREEDOM.

WE SHOULD LIVE IN A

SOCIETY WHERE THE

GOVERNMENT PROTECTS OUR

FREEDOM, WHERE IT IS

FREEDOM'S BEST FRIEND, NOT

ITS WORST ENEMY.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING

HAPPENING TO BARONELLE

COULD HAPPEN TO A LOT OF

OTHER PEOPLE.

David: WE'RE BACK

NEXT WITH A PRETTY

DISGUSTING OY-VEY MOMENT

OF THE WEEK.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: LOOKS, FOLKS,

WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR

PUBLIC OFFICE, EVERYTHING

YOU'VE EVER DONE WILL BE

OUTED BY THE MEDIA.

TIMES IT IS DOWN RIGHT

UNFAIR, AND OTHER TIMES IT

IS A SITUATION WHERE THE

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW.

WHICH LEADS US TO THIS

WEEK'S OY-VEY MOMENT OF

THE WEEK.

*

David: ALL RIGHT,

LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE FOR

THE FLORIDA SENATE, 32

YEARS OLD, HE IS A LAWYER.

AND HE DRINKS GOAT MILK.

THAT'S THE GOAT RIGHT

THERE.

HE DECLINES TO GIVE HIS

REAL NAME, BY THE WAY,

DRANK THE GOAT'S BLOOD AS

PART OF A PAGAN RITUAL.

AND HE HAS BEEN

INVESTIGATED BY THE

F.B.I., THE U.S. MARSHAL'S

OFFICE AND ONCE RENOWNED

HIS CITIZENSHIP.

NO NEED FOR THE MEDIA TO

SMEAR THIS GUY'S CAMPAIGN

BECAUSE THAT IS COMING

STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S

MOUTH -- WELL, ACTUALLY,

THE GOAT'S MOUTH.

THAT'S IT, HAVE A GOOD

WEEK, EVERYONE.

GOD BLESS YOU.

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