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700 Club Interactive: Protect Your Finances #5 – January 8, 2016

Protect Your Finances! Debt-Proof Living Founder Mary Hunt shares how you can save money for your retirement! Read Transcript


IF YOU SPEND MORE MONEY

THAN YOU EARN, IT WILL

EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH

YOU.

Gordon: A COUPLE WITH

A LOVE FOR SPENDING.

I HAD RUN UP OVER

$100,000 IN UNSECURED

CREDIT CARD DEBT.

Gordon: THEY STRUGGLE

TO GET O OUT O TO GET OUT OF DEBT.

NO SAVINGS, WE WERE

BOTH UNEMPLOYED, JUST A

TON OF BILLS.

Gordon: SEE HOW

THEY'RE NOW DEBT-FREE ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO

THE DAY YOU CAN RETIRE?

WILL YOU SEE THE WORLD,

VOLUNTEER MORE, OR MASTER

THAT FAVORITE HOBBY OF

YOURS?

UNFORTUNATELY, SO MANY OF

US ARE SO DROWNING IN DEBT

WE CAN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT

RETIREMENT.

ONE STUDY BY BANKRATE.COM

SAYS A QUARTER OF

AMERICANS ARE ONLY ONE

EMERGENCY AWAY FROM

FINANCIAL RUIN.

MARY HUNT KNOWS WHAT IT

FEELS LIKE TO BE OVERRUN

WITH DEBT.

SHE OWED SO MUCH IT NEARLY

DESTROYED HER FAMILY.

SO HOW DID SHE ELIMINATE

HER DEBT AND BUILD A

SECURE RETIREMENT?

TAKE A LOOK.

WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER,

WE DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN

PUTTING IN.

NOW AS WE'RE GETTING

OLDER, IT BECOMES VERY

OBVIOUS HOW MUCH IT COSTS

TO RETIRE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE

WORKING A LOT LONGER THAN

WE THOUGHT WE WOULD.

I STARTED OFF ON THE

WRONG FOOT, WITH MY WHOLE

LIFE.

AND IF I COULD HAVE

STARTED OVER, IT WOULD --

I WOULD START OUT VERY

DIFFERENT.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL

HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY TO

LEAN ON ANYMORE.

I THINK IT WILL MAINLY

JUST BE WHAT WE HAVE SAVED

UP.

IN TERMS OF RETIREMENT,

I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT

AT ALL.

WE DON'T HAVE A

RETIREMENT FUND.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA

CASH.

SO IT'S THERE.

SO IT'S KIND OF SCARY,

ACTUALLY.

Gordon: MOST

AMERICANS ARE FACING A

FUTURE FINANCIAL CRISIS;

WE'RE JUST NOT SAVING

ENOUGH FOR RETIREMENT.

ADD TO THIS SKYROCKETING

CREDIT CARD AND CONSUMER

DEBT, AND YOU HAVE A

RECIPE FOR DISASTER.

THE REALITY IS MANY

AMERICANS WILL HAVE TO

WORK A LOT LONGER BEFORE

THEY CAN ENJOY THE GOLDEN

YEARS OF RETIREMENT.

MARY HUNT, "WALL STREET

JOURNAL" BEST-SELLING

AUTHOR AND FOUNDER OF

"DEBT-PROOF LIVING," KNOWS

JUST HOW IT FEELS TO BE

NERVOUS AND OVERWHELMED

ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL

FUTURE.

AS A YOUNG WIFE AND

MOTHER, SHE FACED A

MOUNTAIN OF CREDIT CARD

BILLS AND UNSECURED

CONSUMER DEBT THAT NEARLY

DESTROYED HER FAMILY.

I WENT INTO MARRIAGE.

I HAD A COLLEGE DEGREE.

I MARRIED A BANKER,

EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE

BEEN FANTASTIC, RIGHT?

WHOA, IF YOU SPEND MORE

MONEY THAN YOU EARN, IT

WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP

WITH YOU.

AND I FELL INTO CREDIT

CARD DEBT, AND I FELL

HARD.

I HAD RUN UP OVER $100,000

IN UNSECURED CREDIT CARD

DEBT, AND THIS WAS BACK IN

1984.

THEN WE WERE BOTH

UNEMPLOYED, NO INCOME AT

ALL, NO SAVINGS, NOTHING.

JUST A TON OF BILLS.

IT WAS A REAL TURNING

POINT.

IT TOOK US 13 YEARS TO PAY

BACK THE DEBT, BUT WE PAID

BACK EVERY SINGLE DIME.

Gordon: MARY'S WAKEUP

CALL CHANGED THE WAY SHE

LOOKED AT HER FINANCES.

IT BEGAN WITH AN ATTITUDE

ADJUSTMENT.

IT IS NOT WHAT OTHER

PEOPLE THINK.

IT IS WHAT KIND OF A

MANAGER I'M BEING WITH

MONEY.

Gordon: RETIREMENT

PLANNING BEGINS WITH

BECOMING A SMART MONEY

MANAGER.

IT IS SOMETHING ANYONE CAN

DO.

IT ALL STARTS WITH HAVING

A PLAN.

THE FIRST THING IS YOU

HAVE TO HAVE A MONEY

MANAGEMENT PLAN.

I LOVE THE 10-10-80

FORMULA.

I DIDN'T COME UP WITH IT.

IT MEANS YOU GIVE AWAY

10%, YOU SAVE 10%, AND YOU

FASHION YOUR LIFE TO FIT

WITHIN 80% OF YOUR INCOME.

Gordon: NUMBER ONE,

LEARN TO LIVE ON 80% OF

YOUR INCOME.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO

LIVE ON LESS THAN YOU EARN

IF YOU WANT TO START

BUILDING A SOLID

FOUNDATION FOR YOUR

RETIREMENT YEARS.

THIS COULD MEAN MAKING

SOME LIFESTYLE CHANGES.

START WITH SOMETHING

SIMPLE, LIKE EATING DINNER

AT HOME INSTEAD OF GOING

OUT.

YOU'LL SAVE MONEY, AND

IT'S HEALTHIER, TOO.

NUMBER TWO, SET ASIDE

MONEY FOR AN EMERGENCY

FUND.

YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID THE

NEXT TIME YOU HAVE

UNEXPECTED EXPENSES.

AN EMERGENCY FUND IS

ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY IN A

PERSON'S LIFE.

NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN

LIVE, WHETHER YOU'RE CLOSE

TO RETIREMENT OR FAR FROM

RETIREMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S

GOING TO KEEP YOU ON

TRACK.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN

EMERGENCY FUND, YOU WILL

FOREVER BE FALLING BACK

INTO DEBT.

YOU'LL BE PAYING INTEREST,

AND YOU'LL JUST BE

SPINNING YOU'RE WHEELS.

Gordon: NUMBER THREE,

GET OUT OF DEBT.

IF YOU'RE CARRYING A

BALANCE ON YOUR CREDIT

CARDS, WATCH OUT.

THIS BALANCING ACT IS A

GAME ONLY CREDIT CARD

COMPANIES WIN.

HIGH INTEREST RATES WILL

DEVOUR YOUR FINANCIAL

FUTURE.

DEVELOP A PLAN TO

ELIMINATE YOUR CREDIT CARD

DEBT NOW.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE SO

MANY PEOPLE ASK ME, HOW

MUCH MONEY AM I GOING TO

NEED BEFORE I CAN RETIRE?

A MILLION?

$10 MILLION?

I GO, OH, MY GOODNESS,

THAT IS HARD TO THINK

ABOUT.

A MUCH BETTER STRATEGY IS

TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE

SO OUT OF DEBT, YOU HAVE

SO LITTLE INCUMBRANCE AS

YOU HEAD INTO THAT SEASON

OF YOUR LIFE.

AND THAT'S A MUCH BETTER

WAY TO PLAN.

Gordon: NUMBER FOUR,

MAXIMIZE YOUR RETIREMENT

ACCOUNTS.

RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS,

COMMONLY KNOWN AS

I.R.A. s, ARE A GREAT

PLACE TO SAVE FOR YOUR

RETIREMENT.

START EARLY.

YOU NEED TIME ON YOUR

SIDE.

IF YOUR EMPLOYER OFFERS TO

MATCH YOUR CONTRIBUTION,

MAKE SURE TO TAKE

ADVANTAGE OF IT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST

CHALLENGES SOMEONE FACES

IS HOUSING.

THE THING IS TO BECOME A

HOMEOWNER AND NOT A HOME

RENTER.

AS YOUR PAYING IT DOWN,

YOUR EQUITY, THE AMOUNT

THAT YOU OWN, IS GOING TO

GROW.

YOU START AT 20%, AND IT

GROWS TO 30% AND 40%, AND

MORE AND MORE YOU OWN THE

HOUSE UNTIL YOU ARE 100%

EQUITY.

THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE

NOW A HOMEOWNER, NOT JUST

A HOME BUYER.

THAT IS JUST SUCH A

BLESSING, TO ENTER INTO

THAT NEXT SEASON OF LIFE.

Gordon: NUMBER SIX,

IINVEST.

YOU NEED YOUR MONEY TO

GROW AND WORK FOR YOU.

THAT MEANS BUILDING A

PERSONAL INVESTMENT

PORTFOLIO.

THINK DIVER DIVERSEFY.

EXPLORE REAL ESTATE AND

STOCKS AND GOVERNMENT

BONDS.

THE YOUNGER YOU ARE, THE

MORE RISKS YOUR

INVESTMENTS CAN TOLERATE.

INVESTING A BUILD YOU A

FUTURE OF FINANCIAL

FREEDOM.

SOMETHING THAT DEBT AND

SPENDING WILL NEVER BRING

YOU.

MAYBE THE YEARS HAVE FLOWN

BY, AND YOU'RE STARTING

LATE IN YOUR RETIREMENT

PLANNING.

YOU MIGHT NEED TO GET

EXTREME TO MAKE UP FOR

LOST TIME.

YOU MIGHT NEED TO GIVE

UP THE FAMILY VACATION FOR

ONE YEAR.

I DON'T SAY TAKE

ENTERTAINMENT OUT OF YOUR

LIFE FOREVER.

BUT MAYBE THAT ONE BIG

EXPENSE -- PEOPLE CAN DO

EXTRAORDINARY THINGS ON AN

ORDINARY INCOME, IF THEY

HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION

AND A GOOD ATTITUDE.

Gordon: PLAN NOW FOR

THE YEARS AHEAD.

LIVE ON LESS THAN YOU

EARN, GET OUT OF DEBT, AND

BUILD AN INVESTMENT

PORTFOLIO.

YOUR RETIREMENT YEARS CAN

BE A GREAT NEW ADVENTURE.

REMEMBER, GOD IS THERE TO

CARE FOR YOU IN EVERY

SEASON OF YOUR LIFE.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE

NEED TO SEE HITTING

RETIREMENT AS THE FINISH

LINE, AND NOW WE'RE ON OUR

OWN, TO WHITE KNUCKLE IT

TO THE BITTER END.

NOT AT ALL.

I SEE RETIREMENT, THAT

SEASON OF LIFE, AS, LIKE,

A RESET, A NEW EXPERIENCE,

A NEW EXCITING, WONDERFUL

ADVENTURE.

AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE

WHAT GOD HAS FOR ME.

AND I TRUST HIM.

I TRUST HIM.

I PLAN AND THEN I HAND ALL

OF MY PLANS OVER TO THE

LORD AND ASK HIM TO TAKE

CARE OF THE OUTCOME SO

THAT I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY

ABOUT IT.

Gordon: AND WHEN YOU

DO THAT, HE WILL TAKE CARE

OF THE OUTCOME.

BUT YOU HAVE TO D DO IT HIS

WAY.

AND THAT 80-10-10 RULE,

LIVE BY THAT.

REALIZE IF YOU LIVE WITHIN

YOUR MEANS, IF YOU ARE

PUTTING GOD FIRST WITH

YOUR FINANCES BY TITHING,

AND THEN YOU'RE PAYING

YOURSELF, YOU'RE PUTTING

ASIDE 10% OF YOUR INCOME

EVERY MONTH, EVERY

PAYCHECK -- DON'T MISS

THAT ONE, WHERE YOU PAY

YOURSELF.

THAT IS THE KEY.

THERE IS NO GET-RICH-QUICK

SCHEME HERE.

IT IS ALL BASED ON TIME,

THE HABITS YOU PERFORM

WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, AND HOW

IT BUILDS OVER TIME.

IF YOU'RE OVER 50, LIKE

ME, THERE IS STILL HOPE

FOR YOU, TOO.

I HEARD WARREN BUFFETT GOT

99% OF HIS FORTUNE AFTER

THE AGE OF 50.

SO THERE IS STILL PLENTY

OF TIME LEFT FOR YOU TO

PROTECT YOUR FINANCES AND

BUILD FOR THE FUTURE.

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> WELL, COMING UP, HEAR

WHY THIS COLD CASE

DETECTIVE DECIDED TO TAKE

ON THE BIGGEST WHO-DUN-IT

QUESTION OF ALL TIME.

JAY WARNER WALLACE BREAKS

THE CASE OF THE DIVINE

CREATOR WIDE OPEN, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Gordon: IF YOU'RE A

FAN OF THE SHOW "DATE

LINE," YOU MAY RECOGNIZE

OUR NEXT GUEST.

HIS QUEST FOR CLUES LED

HIM TO STUDY THE BIGGEST

COLD CASE IN HISTORY, THE

CASE OF THE DIVINE

INTRUDER.

Reporter: JIM WARNER

WALLACE IS A SEASONED

COLD-CASE HOMICIDE

DETECTIVE, WHO COMES FROM

THREE GENERATIONS OF LAW

ENFORCEMENT.

HE HAS ALSO BEEN FEATURED

REPEATEDLY ON NBC'S

DATELINE.

IN 1996, HE BEGAN TO

SEARCH FOR PROOF OF GOD'S

EXISTENCE, THE SAME WAY HE

WOULD SEARCH FOR CLUES AT

A CRIME SCENE.

JIM SHARES HIS FORENSIC

EVIDENCE IN HIS BOOK

"GOD'S CRIME SCENE," TO

MAKE A COMPELLING CASE IN

FAVOR OF A DIVINE CREATOR.

Gordon: PLEASE

WELCOME TO THE SHOW

COLD-CASE DETECTIVE JIM

WARNER WA WALLACE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE.

Gordon: YOU HAVE A

FABULOUS HISTORY HERE.

HERE YOU ARE AN ATHEIST,

AN INVESTIGATOR, YOU'RE 35

YEARS OLD, AND SUDDENLY

YOU DECIDE TO HAVE FAITH.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

BOY, IT TOOK SOME TIME.

FOR ME A LOT OF THIS WAS

PARSING THROUGH THE

EVIDENCE OVER A PERIOD OF

TIME.

PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME, WHAT

WAS THE BIGGEST EVENT FOR

YOU?

IT REALLY WASN'T A BIG

EVENT.

I CONSTRUCTED THIS CASE

THAT WAS MORE AND MORE

COMPELLING, AND I WAS

CONVINCED OF THE GOSPELS

SHORT OF THE MIRACLE

ACCOUNTS.

I THOUGHT THE MIRACLES

HAVE GOT TO BE FICTION,

BUT THE NEXT STEP FOR ME

WAS TO ASK MYSELF, DO I

REALLY BELIEVE THAT MY

NATURALISTIC WORLD VIEW AS

AN ATHEIST, WHERE FIS

KICKS AND CHEMISTRY, COULD

COMPLAIN THE WORLD THE WAY

IT IS?

Gordon: ANYTHING THAT

HAD A HINT OF MIRACULOUS,

YOU SAID THAT IS

IRRATIONAL?

THAT'S RIGHT.

Gordon: WHAT GOT YOU

STARTED TO SAY THAT THE

SCRIPTURES ARE ACTUALLY

AUTHENTIC DOCUMENTS?

WELL, I WAS KIND OF

PARSING THROUGH THEM FOR

THE EXPRESS PURPOSE FOR

DISCOVERING WHETHER OR NOT

I COULD TRUST WHAT THEY

SAID ABOUT JESUS.

AS I DID THIS, I KIND OF

ASSESSED THEM WITH THE

SAME TEMPLATE I USED FROM

THE CALIFORNIA STATE JURY

INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT

RELIABILITY OF WITNESSES.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR?

WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOUR

BASIC THINGS, AND I FOUND

THOSE FOUR BASIC THINGS IN

THE GOSPELS.

AND THEN I WAS LIKE, WHAT

DO I DO WITH THE MIRACLES?

SO I ASKED MYSELF THE

QUESTION, COULD MY

PHILOSOPHICAL

NATURALISM -- COULD IT

REALLY EXPLAIN THE

UNIVERSE THE WAY IT IS?

IT TURNS OUT IT WAS

DEFICIENT IN EXPLAINING

THE UNIVERSE.

IF YOU ACCEPT THERE IS A

BEING OUT THERE THAT COULD

CREATE EVERYTHING, ALL

SPACE, TIME, AND MATTER

DISCOVERED BY THE LAWS OF

PHYSICS, FROM NOTHING,

THEN THAT BEING WOULD BE

ABLE TO WALK ON WATER AND

PART THE RED SEA.

IT SEEMED LIKE MINOR

MIRACLES COMPARED TO

GENESIS 1.

SO EVEN IF I HAD

SCRIPTURE, COULD I GET TO

THE SAME CONCLUSION?

AND FOR ME AS AN ATHEIST,

THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAD TO

GET ME.

YOU COULDN'T OFFER YOUR

HOLY BOOK AS A WAY OF

PROVING YOUR HOLY BOOK.

THAT IS JUST THE WALL I

HAD CONSTRUCTED FOR

MYSELF.

Gordon: A LOT OF

ATHEISTS SAY, THOUGH, THAT

THE EVIDENCE IN CREATION

AND IN THE UNIVERSE AROUND

US FOR GOD IS HIDDEN.

RICHARD HAWKINS HAS COME

OUT AND SAID, WHAT HAPPENS

IF YOU DIE AND IT TURNS

OUT YOU'RE WRONG, WHAT ARE

YOU GOING TO DO?

AND HE SAID, I'M GOING TO

GO TO GOD AND SAY, YOU DID

A REALLY GOOD JOB OF

HIDING.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT

ONE?

I MADE AN ENTIRE CAREER

OF FINDING THE STUFF THAT

IS HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT.

TYPICALLY MY CASES GET

CLOSED OR WALKED AWAY FROM

BECAUSE SOME DETECTIVE

SAID THERE IS NOT ENOUGH

HERE.

I NEED TO OPEN IT UP AND

SAY, IS THERE SOMETHING

HERE, SOMETHING HIS

OPINIONS PREVENTED HIM

FROM SEEING.

THEY HAVE A HUGE

PRESUPPOSITION TO WHAT

BLINDS THEM TO WHAT IS

OBVIOUS.

I LOOK AT THE SAME

EVIDENCE MY ATHEIST

FRIENDS LOOK AT, THE SAME

SCIENCE, THE SAME

PHILOSOPHY, THE SAME DATA.

THE DIFFERENCE IS I'M

THERAPISTING IT NOW

THROUGINTERPRETINTERPRETING IT NOW

THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS.

SO I WANT TO PROVIDE

RESOURCE WHERE PEOPLE

COULD LOOK AT THE SAME

PIECES OF EVIDENCE, BUT

HEAR IT FROM A DIFFERENT

FILTER, HEAR IT FROM A

DIFFERENT EXPLANATION.

Gordon: SO WHAT WAS

THE EVIDENCE, FOR YOU AS

THE JURY, TO SAY, I NEED

TO CHANGE MY THOUGHT HERE.

I CAN'T BE AN ATHEIST

ANYMORE.

I LOOKED AT THE EIGHT

PIECES OF EVIDENCE I'VE

DESCRIBED IN THIS BOOK.

AND I SAID THERE ARE FOUR

VERY DIFFERENT, COMPLETELY

UNRELATED CATEGORIES.

THE ORIGIN OF THE

UNIVERSE, THE FINE-TUNING

OF THE UNIVERSE, THE

ORIGIN OF LIFE IN THE

UNIVERSE, AND THE

APPEARANCE AND DESIGN,

BIOLOGY, OBJECTIVE MORAL

TRUTH, AND EVIL.

THESE ARE EIGHT THINGS

THAT EVERYONE HAS EQUAL

BURDEN TO EXPLAIN GIVEN

THEIR WORLD VIEW.

THE PROBLEM I HAD, AS I

LOOKED AT THOSE EIGHT

THINGS, IN MY ATHEISTIC

WORLD, YOU COULD NOT

ACCOUNT FOR ANY OF THOSE

THINGS.

OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I

COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE

EVIDENCE OF THE UNIVERSE

BY STAYING IN THE ROOM.

EVERYTHING POINTS TO

EVERYTHING THAT IS SUPER

NATURAL.

Gordon: LET'S TAKE

THE PROBLEM OF EVIL.

BECAUSE IN THE ATHEIST

WORLD, THE EVIDENCE OF

EVIL SAYS THERE CANNOT BE

A LOVING GOD.

WHY WOULD HE ALLOW THAT TO

HAPPEN IN HIS UNIVERSE.

IN THE BOOK, I TRY TO

GO THROUGH AN EXPLANATORY

FILTER.

A PARENT WOULD SAY, WHY

DID THIS HAPPEN TO MY

LITTLE GIRL.

IT IS COMPLEX.

THERE IS A SET OF

CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAME

TOGETHER IN A CERTAIN WAY,

A PUZZLE THAT CAME

TOGETHER THAT ALLOWED THAT

TO HAPPEN.

ARE THERE SIMILAR

CONDITIONS THAT HAVE

EXPLANATORY VALUE WHY GOD

MIGHT ALLOW IT?

MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN

SOMEONE SAYS I THINK "X"

IS EVIL, WHAT DO THEY

REALLY MEAN BY THAT?

THEY REALLY MEAN -- IT'S

MORE THAN THEIR PERSONAL

OPINION.

THEY THINK IT IS

TRANSCENDENTLY EVIL, BUT

HOW COULD IT BE THAT WAY

UNLESS WE'RE EWING A

TRANSCENDENTLY GOOD.

IF YOU CAN'T ELIMINATE

EVIL -- IF THERE IS

SOMETHING THAT TRANSCENDS

ALL OF US, WHAT IS THE

STANDARD WE'RE USING TO

MEASURE SUCH A THING.

IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE

TRUE, TRAN TRANSCENDENT EVIL,

THERE HAS TO BE TRUE,

TRANSCENDENT GOOD.

SO EVIL IS AN INCULPATING

PIECE OF EVIDENCE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS THING

PERCEIVED AS TRUE EVIL,

UNLESS THERE IS A TRUE

GODED THAGODTHAT IS THE STANDARD FOR

ALL GOOD.

IT IS THE STRAIGHT LINE

THAT DEFINES THE CROOKED

LINE.

Gordon: IT IS THE

INDEX.

IT GIVES US AN INDEX.

YEAH.

Gordon: FOR ME, ONE

OF THE BIGGEST EVIDENCE IS

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE

CONSCIOUSNESS.

THE BEST ARGUMENT FOR

GOD IS WE CAN MAKE AN

ARGUMENT.

Gordon: IT IS THE

THING WE'RE MOST INTIMATE

WITH, AND AT THE SAME TIME

THE MOST INEXPLICABLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

ATHEISTS SAY THE EXACT

SAME THING.

HOW DOES IMMATERIAL

CONSCIOUSNESS EMERGE FROM

THE LUMPY GREY MATTER WE

CALL THE BRAIN?

THAT'S A PHYSICAL PROCESS.

IF ATHEISM IS TRUE, WE

LIVE IN A PHYSICAL

UNIVERSE MADE UP OF

NOTHING MORE THAN MATTER.

ANYTHING IMMATERIAL, LIKE

CONSCIOUSNESS -- IF

ATHEISM IS TRUE, IT IS

DETERMINED BY PRIOR

MATERIAL CONSCIOUSNESS.

YOU THINK YOU MADE A FREE

CHOICE?

HOW COULD YOU MAKE -- WE

ARE MEMBERS OF THE

MATERIAL UNIVERSE.

SO THERE IS A PROBLEM

CALLED THE PROBLEM OF

MIND.

IT IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR

YOU OR I BECAUSE WE

OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN

EXPLANATION FOR THIS.

IF THERE IS A CONSCIENCE

MIND THAT CAN CREATE A

BEING IN ITS OWN IMAGE, IT

COULD EXPLAIN SIMILAR

PROPERTIES.

YOUR DECISIONS TO LISTEN

WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND MAKE

A DECISION, IT'S AN

ILLUSION.

THE ATHEIST SAYS YOU DON'T

HAVE THAT KIND OF FREEDOM.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT, BUT

IT IS NOT REALLY TRUE.

Gordon: BUT I DO HAVE

IT.

YOU DO HAVE IT.

Gordon: AND EVEN MORE

THAN THAT, I HAVE ETERNITY

IN MY HEART.

AND I HAVE THE ABILITY TO

THINK THAT AND TO PERCEIVE

THAT.

THAT, FOR ME, IS -- THERE

IS ONLY A DIVINE

EXPLANATION FOR THAT.

YEAH.

IF YOU THINK YOU'RE

CONSCIOUS LIFE IS AN

ILLUSION, WHAT ARE YOU

USING TO THINK IT IS AN

ILLUSION?

YOUR STUCK WITH THE

CIRCULAR NOTION.

YOU'RE USING CONSCIOUSNESS

TO PERCEIVE THE ILLUSION

OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

THE FACT WE CAN MAKE AN

ARGUMENT IS THE BEST

EVIDENCE.

Gordon: GOOD

ARGUMENT, COUNSELLOR.

IF YOU WANT TO INVESTIGATE

THE EVIDENCE FOR A DIVINE

THE CREATED UNIVERSE, THIS

BOOK IS A GREAT PLACE TO

START.

IT IS CALLED "GOD'S CRIME

SCENE," AND IT'S AVAILABLE

WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.

JIM, THANKS FOR BEING WITH

US.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

Gordon: WE'LL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE" RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Gordon: ALL WEEK

WE'VE BEEN GIVING YOU

ADVICE TO HELP YOU PROTECT

YOUR FINANCES.

CHANCES ARE IN 2016 YOU

WANT TO WORK ON IMPROVING

OTHER AREAS OF YOUR LIFE,

TOO.

SO WE ASKED SOME PEOPLE,

WHAT'S THE BEST ADVICE

YOU'VE EVER RECEIVED, AND

THE WORST.

TAKE A LOOK.

DON'T PROCRASTINATE.

YOU KNOW EVERYONE DOES IT.

JUST TO TRY MY HARDEST,

EVEN WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE IT

IS GETTING REALLY HARD.

LIFE IS A JOURNEY.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR

A REASON.

FAMILY COMES FIRST, AND

YOUR CAREER IS WHAT YOU

DO.

YOU WORK TO LIVE.

YOU DON'T LIVE TO WORK.

THE BEST ADVICE I GOT

WAS FROM A PASTOR, WHEN

YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT,

START TAKING OFF YOUR

CLOTHES.

BECAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD

TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITH

YOUR WIFE WHEN YOU ARE

NAKED.

I THINK IT MEANS JUST

BEING VULNERABLE.

GOING INTO SOMETHING, IF

THERE IS A DEGREE OF ANGER

OR DEFENSE, BEING ABLE TO

PAUSE AND SAY, HOW CAN I

NOT BE GUARDED.

TAKE RISKS.

BE WILLING TO TRY NEW

THINGS AND TO STRETCH.

THE WORST ADVICE I EVER

RECEIVED WAS WAIT AND DO

IT TOMORROW.

GO FORTUNATE THE MONEY.

FOR THE MONEY.

DON'T EVER GO FOR THE

MONEY.

I THINK WE, AS A

CULTURE, TEND TO BE DRIVEN

SO MUCH BY FEAR THAT BEING

OVERLY CAREFUL MAKES US

SPEND OUR LIVES DURING THE

STUFF THAT IS JUST SAFE.

PEOPLE ALWAYS TELL YOU

THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND

YOUR STATUS IS WHERE YOU

FIND FULFILLMENT IN LIFE.

THAT'S NOT GOD'S INTENDED

PURPOSE FOR US.

HE JUST WANTS US TO BE IN

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, IN

RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHERS.

THINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS

AS BLACK AND WHITE AS

THINGS WOULD SEEM.

GOOD HABITS THAT YOU

DEVELOP AS A YOUNG PERSON

STICK WITH YOU THE REST OF

YOUR LIFE.

EVERY DAY YOU CAN LEARN

SOMETHING NEW.

DON'T EVER THINK YOU KNOW

EVERYTHING.

DON'T BE AFRAID OF

TRYING SOMETHING CRAZY OR

SOMETHING THAT SEEMS

INSURMOUNTABLE.

LIFE TAKES A LOT OF

UNEXPECTED TURNS.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MAKES

LIFE INTERESTING.

JUST ENJOY EVERY DAY OF

EVERY MOMENT THAT YOU

HAVE.

Gordon: I'VE GOT A

BIT OF ADVICE FOR YOU TO

CLOSE OUT THIS WEEK: IF

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A

BREAKTHROUGH IN 2016 --

AND WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR

BREAKTHROUGHS, WHETHER IT

IS A FINANCIAL

BREAKTHROUGH, WHETHER IT

IS A BREAKTHROUGH IN YOUR

FAMILY, A BREAKTHROUGH IN

YOUR CAREER, OR A

BREAKTHROUGH IN YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, PUT

GOD FIRST.

HERE IS THE KEY TO ALL

BREAKTHROUGHS: EVERYTHING

IN LIFE, THE ANSWER TO

EVERY HUMAN NEED, AND HIS

NAME IS JESUS CHRIST.

AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING

ABOUT SALVATION AND THE

KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BELIEVE

HE IS THE MESSIAH.

THAT HE CAME, THAT HE

DELVED ON THE EARTH, AND

THAT HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS

AND HE ROSE FROM THE

GRAVE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE

YOU, ON A DAILY BASIS, ARE

ASKING JESUS TO REVEAL

MORE OF HIMSELF FOR YOU.

WHEN YOU START

UNDERSTANDING THE

GREATNESS OF HIS POWER

TOWARDS US WHO BELIEVE,

THEN YOU CAN WALK IN

MIRACLES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE

NORMAL LIFE.

YOU CAN TAKE THE

SUPERNATURAL LIFE BECAUSE

JESUS PROMISED THAT WE

WOULD HAVE THAT, THAT IF

HE IS IN US, AND WE ARE IN

HIM, THEN WHATEVER WE ASK

IN HIS NAME, THE FATHER

WILL GRANT TO US.

THE KEY TO GETTING THAT IS

TO UNDERSTAND HIM AND

UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS

OF HIS POWER.

SO IN 2016, LET THIS BE A

DAILY PRAYER, A DAILY

SEARCH, WHERE YOU PRAY,

LORD, SHOW ME WHERE YOU

ARE IN THE BIBLE.

SHOW ME WHERE YOU ARE IN

THE OLD TESTAMENT.

SO ME HOW THROUGH YOU ALL

THINGS WERE CREATED.

SHOW ME THE GREATNESS OF

YOUR POWER.

I WANT MORE OF YOU.

AND THE BIGGEST THING YOU

CAN GET IS FOR HIM TO SHOW

YOU HIS LOVE BECAUSE FAITH

ALWAYS WORKS THROUGH LOVE.

ASK FOR IT.

HE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU IF

YOU ASK HIM IN FAITH.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS

WORD: "WE ASK GOD TO GIVE

YOU COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE OF

HIS WILL AND TO GIVE YOU

SPIRITUAL WISDOM AND

UNDERSTANDING."

GOD BLESS YOU.

MAY YOU HAVE A GREAT 2016.

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