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The 700 Club - February 17, 2016

Josh spent 16 years in prison for a crime he didn’t commit and God was the only one listening. Plus, discover the wisdom of the Founding Fathers and how their words highlight America's grand system of human liberty. Read Transcript


Wendy: COMING UP...

I KNEW I WAS INNOCENT,

BUT I KNEW HE DIDN'T CARE.

Wendy: ...ACCUSED AND

CONVICTED.

THE ENTIRE PLACE WENT

DARK.

I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

Wendy: ...OF CRIMES

THEY DIDN'T COMMIT.

THE SHERIFF WAS GOING

TO DO EVERYTHING IN HIS

POWER TO MAKE SURE I WENT

TO PRISON.

Wendy: ...AND THEY

WENT TO PRISON.

ON TODAY'S "THE 700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB".

I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE WITH US

TODAY.

WE HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS

STORIES FOR YOU; YOU DON'T

WANT TO MISS ANY OF THEM.

> YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS

INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND

MINISTRY IN SOUTH

CAROLINA, I RECOGNIZED

THAT THAT WAS A STATE THAT

DEPENDED ON FREE TRADE.

THEY NEEDED TRADE FOR

THEIR TEXTILES AND FOR

THEIR AUTOMOBILE COMPANIES

COMING IN.

THEY WERE OPEN FOR

BUSINESS FOR EVERYBODY.

SO DONALD TRUMP HAS COME

IN WITH A MESSAGE OF

PROTECTIONISM AND BASH THE

CHINESE, ETC., ETC., AND

FOR SOME REASON THE PEOPLE

OF SOUTH CAROLINA DON'T

SEEM TO CARE.

TRUMP IS LEADING IN THE

POLLS TWO TO ONE OVER

CRUZ.

BUT CRUZ IS BUILDING AN

ARMY OF EVANGELICAL

PASTORS THAT MAY SURPRISE

EVERYBODYMENT BUEVERYBODY.

BUT IN THE PROCESS, THE

BATTLE FOR THAT NOMINATION

IN SOUTH CAROLINA HAS

TURNED VICIOUS.

THE CANDIDATES ARE

BRUTALLY FIGHTING FOR

VOTES, AND ONE OF THE KEY

VOTING BLOCKS, OF COURSE,

ARE EVANGELICAL

CHRISTIANS.

Wendy: THAT'S RIGHT,

CBN'S DAVID BRODY TALKED

TO TWO OF THE LEADING

REPUBLICANS, TED CRUZ AND

MARCO RUBIO, ABOUT THEIR

COMPAIGNS AND THEIR VIEWS

ON SOME OF THE MOST

IMPORTANT ISSUES TO

CHRISTIANS.

David: IN ONE OF THE

MOST SURPRISING

PRESIDENTIAL RACES IN

AGES, MILLIONAIRE DONALD

TRUMP AND TED CRUZ HAVE

EMERGED AS THE REPUBLICAN

DYNAMIC DUO.

THEY LEFT A CRUCIAL RUBBER

MATCH IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

CRUZ TELLS CBN NEWS THE

MATH IS SIMPLE.

I THINK THIS IS MORE

AND MORE BECOMING A

TWO-PERSON RACE.

IT IS BETWEEN ME AND

DONALD TRUMP.

THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO CAN

BEAT DONALD TRUMP IS ME.

David: CONSERVATIVE

CHRISTIANS MAKE UP MORE

THAN HALF OF THE G.O.P.

PRIMARY ELECTORATE.

AND THAT IS GOOD NEWS FOR

TED CRUZ BECAUSE HE NEEDED

THOSE EVANGELICALS TO WIN

IN IOWA.

AND NOW THE QUESTION IN

SOUTH CAROLINA IS: CAN HE

PULL OFF THE REPEAT?

[APPLAUSE]

David: HE IS HOPING

TO PULL IT OFF AGAIN BY

ENCOURAGING SOUTH CAROLINA

PASTORS TO ENGAGE THE

FLOCK.

OUR CBN CAMERAS WERE THERE

FOR THIS PRIVATE

GET-TOGETHER.

WITHOUT EXAGGERATION, I

BELIEVE THE MEN AND WOMEN

IN THIS ROOM, IN THE

CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE YOU

HAVE IN THE PEOPLE THAT

LISTEN AND TRUST YOUR

JUDGMENT, YOUR WISDOM,

YOUR GUIDANCE, YOUR

COUNCIL, THE MEN AND WOMEN

IN THIS ROOM HAVE THE

ABILITY TO CHANGE THE

OUTCOME OF THE SOUTH

CAROLINA PRIMARY, AND IN

DOING THAT, CHANGE THE

OUTCOME OF THE

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND

IN DOING THAT, TO CHANGE

THE OUTCOME, THE DIRECTION

OF THIS COUNTRY.

David: BUT CRUZ'S

PUSH TO MOBILIZE

EVANGELICALS IS UNDER

SCRUTINY.

BEN CARSON SAYS THE CRUZ

CAMPAIGN USED QUESTIONABLE

TACTICS.

NOW MARCO RUBIO AND DONALD

TRUMP ARE NOT HAPPY WITH

HOW CRUZ IS FRAMING THEIR

VIEWS ON THE SUPREME COURT

DECISION THAT LEGALIZED

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

SEVERAL REPUBLICAN

CANDIDATES, INCLUDING MY

TWO LEADING COMPETITORS IN

THIS STATE, SAID PUBLICLY

THAT DECISION WAS SETTLED.

IT WAS THE LAW OF THE

LAND.

WE MUST SURRENDER, ACCEPT

IT, AND MOVE ON.

NOW, THOSE ARE WORD FOR

WORD BARACK OBAMA'S

TALKING POINTS.

David: AT THE TIME,

TRUMP AND RUBIO DID CALL

THE DECISION THE LAW OF

THE LAND, BUT DISAGREED

WITH THE RULING.

TRUMP TOOK TO Facebook

SAYING, QUOTE,"HOW CAN TED

CRUZ BE AN EVANGELICAL

CHRISTIAN WHEN HE LIES SO

MUCH AND SO IS DISHONEST."

AND RUBIO HAD A FEW CHOICE

WORDS, TOO.

>TED CRUZ IS

TALKING ABOUT YOU AND

PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH THE

SAME TALKING POINTS.

IT IS VERY

DISAPPOINTING THAT TED

SAYS THESE THINGS.

IT IS JUST NOT TRUE.

IT HAS BECOME DISTURBING

THAT TED IS WILLING TO

MAKE THINGS UP JUST TO WIN

AN ELECTION.

David: WHAT DO YOU

WANT TO SAY TO SOME FOLKS

THAT ARE STARTING TO

QUESTION YOUR CHRISTIAN

CHARACTER?

IF OTHERS WANT TO

IMPUGN MY CHARACTER, THEY

CAN DO THAT.

I WILL SING THEIR PRAISES.

BUT I DO THINK PEOPLE ARE

SEEING THE WAY WE'RE

RUNNING OR CAMPAIGN, WITH

INTEGRITY, WITH CHARACTER,

FOCUSING ON ISSUES AND

SUBSTANCE, AND NOT GOING

INTO THE GUTTER.

IF I WERE TO STRAY, THE

FIRST PERSON WHO WOULD

HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE IS MY

DAD.

David: AND JEB BUSH

IS GOING AFTER SOUTH

CAROLINA WITH TOUGH TALK,

READY TO BATTLE OVER

NOMINATING CONSERVATIVE

SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.

THE LEFT IS GOING TO GO

AFTER WHOEVER WE APPOINT.

AND WE BETTER BE READY.

THIS WILL BE WAR.

David: BUSH IS GOING

TO NEED TO FIGHT OFF JOHN

KASICH, WHO DID WELL IN

NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THERE

IS ALSO RUBIO TRYING TO

PUT THAT POOR DEBATE

PERFORMANCE IN THE

REAR-VIEW MIRROR.

ADVERSITY IS RELEVANT.

YES, WE DIDN'T DO AS WELL

IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AS WE

WANTED TO.

BUT REAL ADVERSITY FOR

SOME PEOPLE AROUND THE

WORLD ARE MUCH DEEPER AND

WORSE THAN THAT.

GOD WILL EITHER PROVIDE A

WAY AROUND IT OR HE'LL

PROVIDE A WAY THROUGH IT.

David: GOOD THING

GOD HAS IT UNDER CONTROL

BECAUSE THIS RACE HAS BEEN

OUT OF CONTROL SINCE THE

BEGINNING.

DAVID BRODY, GREENEVILLE,

SOUTH CAROLINA.

Pat: YOU KNOW, SOME

YEARS AGO THERE WAS A

CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR IN

SOUTH CAROLINA, AND HE WAS

A DEMOCRAT.

AND I THINK HE TURNED

REPUBLICAN.

AND HE WAS THEN, I THINK,

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

SO HE BEGINS TO RUN.

AND HE AND I WERE FRIENDS.

AND SO THE NEXT THING YOU

KNOW, HIS ENEMIES STARTED

PUTTING ADS ON, THIS MAN

IS SUPPORTED BY PAT

ROBERTSON.

Wendy: OH, MY.

Pat: AND THEY THOUGHT

IT WOULD KILL HIM.

AND WHAT HAPPENED?

HE WENT FROM 11% IN THE

POLLS TO 22%.

Wendy: HE DOUBLED IT.

GOOD JOB.

Pat: IT SHOWS YOU

THAT PAT ROBERTSON AND

THAT RIGHT-WING,

EVANGELICALS ARE

SUPPORTING THIS MAN, AND

HE WENT UP TO ABOUT 40% IN

THE POLLS.

AND THEY KEPT HAMMERING

AWAY, TALKING ABOUT ME AND

HIM, AND HE WON

OVERWHELMINGLY ELECTION

AND HE BECAME GOVERNOR OF

THE STATE.

THERE ARE SO MANY

EVANGELICALS IN SOUTH

CAROLINA, AND THEY DON'T

TAKE IT LIGHTLY IF THEIR

CHAMPIONS GET CRASHED.

AND I THINK CRUZ IS MAKING

A DETERMINED PLAY FOR THE

EVANGELICALS.

HE, HIMSELF, IS A STRONG

EVANGELICAL.

AND HE IS BUILDING UP

PASTORS, HUNDREDS AND

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF

PASTORS TO HELP.

SO THERE COULD BE A

SURPRISE COMING OUT OF

SOUTH CAROLINA.

IF IT IS, IT WILL SHOCK

EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT WILL

GO AGAINST THE MAJOR POLL

NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING

OUT NOW.

WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW MORE

DAYS TO GO.

THE THING IS ON SATURDAY,

BUT IT IS A BIG, BIG

PRIMARY.

> WELL, IN OTHER NEWS,

IT IS THE LATEST ROUND IN

THE ONGOING FIGHT BETWEEN

PERSONAL PRIVACY AND

NATIONAL SECURITY.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

IN OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU IN

WASHINGTON.

John: THANKS, PAT.

> A FEDERAL JUDGE HAS

ORDERED APPLE TO HELP THE

F.B.I. IN ITS

INVESTIGATION OF THE SAN

BERNARDINO SHOOTERS.

ONE OF THEM, SYED FAROOK,

HAD AN iPHONE, AND THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS

TO ACCESS IT FOR

INFORMATION.

BUT APPLE SAYS NO.

THE TECH GIANT WARNS THAT

IF THE FEDS COULD UNLOCK

THAT iPHONE, IT COULD

UNLOCK ANY PHONE TO SEE

WHAT IS ON THEM.

CAITLIN BURKE HAS THE

STORY.

Reporter: APPLE MUST

HACK INTO ONE OF ITS

USER'S iPHONES,

GOVERNMENT ORDERS.

THE F.B.I. BELIEVES THAT

SYED FAROOK'S iPHONE HAS

IMPORTANT INFORMATION

ABOUT ISIS.

BUT AFTER SEVERAL FAILED

ATTEMPTS TO GET HIS

PASSWORD, THE FEDS ARE

LOCKED OUT.

CONTINUING TO TRY TO GET

THAT PASS CODE INTO AN

OPTION.

AFTER 10 FAILED ATTEMPTS,

THE iPHONE IS PROGRAMMED

TO COMPLETELY WIPE CLEAN

AND SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY.

THE F.B.I. NEEDS A WAY

AROUND THAT.

APPLE SAYS THE FEDS ARE

OUT OF LOOK.

C.I.AC.E.O. TIM COOK REJECTING

THE ORDER TO CREATE

SOFTWARE TO ALLOW THEM

ACCESS.

COOK SAYS, QUOTE,"BUILDING

A VERSION OF I.O.S. THAT

BYPASSES SECURITY IN THIS

WAY WOULD UNDENIABLY

CREATE A BACK DOOR.

AND WHILE THE GOVERNMENT

MAY ARGUE THAT ITS USE

WOULD BE LIMITED TO THIS

CASE, THERE IS NO WAY TO

GUARANTEE SUCH CONTROL."

COOK SAYS THAT COSTUMERS

EXPECT APPLE TO PROTECT

THEIR PERSONAL

INFORMATION.

AND THAT APPLE IS

COMMITTED TO DOING JUST

THAT.

IN 2014 APPLE UPDATED

ITS iPHONE OPERATING

SYSTEM TO REQUIRE THAT THE

PHONE BE LOCKED BY A PASS

CODE THAT ONLY THE USER

KNOWS.

BEFORE THAT, THE COMPANY

COULD USE AN EXTRACTION

TOOL THAT WOULD PHYSICALLY

PLUG INTO THE PHONE AND

ALLOW IT TO RESPOND TO

SEARCH WARRANT REQUESTS

FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

F.B.I. DIRECTOR JAMES

COMEY TOLD MEMBERS OF

CONGRESS THAT INCRIPTION

IS A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR LAW

ENFORCEMENT WHO FIND A

DEVICE THAT CAN'T BE OPEN,

EVEN WHEN A JUDGE SAYS

THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE TO

OPEN IT.

OUR JOB IS TO LOOK AT A

HAYSTACK THE SIZE OF THIS

COUNTRY FOR NEEDLES THAT

ARE I INCREASINGLY INVISIBLE

TO US BECAUSE OF END TO

END INCRIPTION.

Reporter: THEY ARE

WEIGHING IN ON THIS DEBATE

OVER PRIVACY VERSUS

NATIONAL SECURITY.

IT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT

WITH APPLE'S POLICY TO BE

AS UNHELPFUL TO LAW

ENFORCEMENT AS POSSIBLE.

THEY SHOULD BE ON OUR

SIDE.

IT WILL GIVE THE

GOVERNMENT THE RIGHT TO GO

INTO EVERYBODY'S PHONE,

WHETHER THEY'RE CRIMINALS

OR NOT OR YOU'RE JUST

GOING ON YOUR BUSINESS.

THE GOVERNMENT WILL USE IT

AGAINST YOU ALL OF TIME.

Reporter: APPLE HAS

FIVE DAYS TO RESPOND TO

THE FEDERAL ORDER TO HACK

FARUK'S PHONE.

CAITLIN BURKE, CBN NEWS.

John: DESPITE A

CEASE-FIRE AGREEMENT IN

SYRIA, IT APPEARS NOTHING

HAS CHANGED ON THE GROUND.

IN FACT, MANY ANALYSTS SAY

THE SITUATION COULD

WORSEN, AND WHILE CRITICS

BLAST PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR

SHOWING WEAKNESS IN THE

MIDST OF THE CONFLICT.

CHRIS MITCHELL BRINGS US

THAT STORY.

Reporter: IN MUNICH,

THEY AGREED TO ALLOWED

HUMANITARIAN RELIEF INTO

SYRIA, AND A CESSATION OF

HOSTILITIES THROUGHOUT THE

COUNTRY.

STILL, THE RUSSIANS

CONTINUE TO BOMB REBEL

FORCES SUPPORTED BY THE

U.S. AND SAUDI ARABIA.

THE RUSSIANS DO NOT

STOP THEIR AIR RAIDS AND

THE GROUND SUPPORT OF

HEZBOLLAH, IRANIAN, AND

OTHER SHI'ITE MALITIAS

WORLDWIDE COMING FROM

AFGHANISTAN, TO MAKE US

AND THTHERUSSIAN REGIME SURVIVE.

THEY WILL NOT STOP AT

NOTHING.

Reporter: SYRIAN AND

IRANIAN FORCES ARE CLOSING

IN ON A ALEPPO.

IF THEY TAKE THE CITY, IT

COULD CHANGE THE COURSE OF

THE WAR AND STRIKE A BLOW

TO PRESIDENT OBAMA'S

POLICY.

ALEPPO IS ONE OF THE

REBELS' LAST STRONGHOLDS.

THERE WAS A STALEMATE

BETWEEN THE REBELS AND THE

ASSAD REGIME, UNTIL RUSSIA

CAME IN AND TIPPED THE

SCALES.

THE RUSSIAN

INTERVENTION -- THE SENSE

IS IT REALLY IS BEGINNING

TO TAKE HOLD AND HAVE A

VERY POWERFUL EFFECT ON

THE BATTLEFIELD, TO THE

DETRIMENT OF THE REBELLION

AND TO THE ADVANTAGE OF

THE ASSAD REGIME.

Reporter: WHILE THE

FATE OF A FAR-AWAY SYRIAN

CITY MIGHT SEEM

UNIMPORTANT TO THE

AMERICANS, IT REPRESENTS A

MAJOR GEOPOLITICAL SHIFT

IN THE REGION.

THE SUBSTANTIAL RUSSIAN

MILITARY BUILDUP IN SYRIA

AND THE EASTERN

MEDITERRANEAN IS SHIFTING

THE STRATEGIC BALANCE IN

THIS PART OF THE

MEDITERRANEAN.

SO I CALL ON CALM,

DE-ESCALATION, AND A

POLITICAL SOLUTION TO THE

CONFLICT IN SYRIA.

Reporter: MIDDLE EAST

EXPERT JOH JONATHAN SPIRE

BELIEVES RUSSIA WANTS A

SOLUTION.

IF THEY SUCCEED IN THAT

WILL LEAVE THE CURD KURDS AND

AN ISLAMIC STATE.

THAT'S WHAT PUTIN AND HIS

ALLIES ARE GOING FOR.

Reporter: TO PUTIN,

IRAN, AND ASSAD ACHIEVE,

IT MEANS A SET BACK FOR

THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE

MIDWEST.

THEY WILL HAVE ACHIEVED

THIS IN A VITAL CONFLICT

ZONE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

SO GROWING STRENGTH FOR

THE RUSSIANS AND THE

IRANIANS MEANS WEAKNESS

FOR THE WEST.

THEY ARE NOW IN THE

MIDDLE OF AN HISTORIC

CHANGE, AND THE UNITED

STATES IS NOT THERE.

Reporter: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

John: PAT, IT IS A

SEEMINGLY REBALANCE OF

POWER RIGHT THERE IN THE

UNITED STATES.

Pat: THE UNITED

STATES IS NOT THERE, YOU

HEARD THAT.

THE UNITED STATES IS NOT

THERE.

WE HAVE BEEN ABSENT

BECAUSE OF OBAMA.

AND AS A RESULT, WE HAVE

LOST SYRIA.

AND ISIS HAS GROWN.

IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT

WAY.

BUT BECAUSE OF AN

EFFECTLESS PRESIDENT, AND

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN

YOU GET SOMEBODY IN THERE

WHO DON' DOESN'T KNOW WHAT

THEY'RE DOING.

> THERE IS ONE FORCE

THAT IS PRO-DEMOCRACY,

PRO-U.S., PRO-FREE

ENTERPRISE, AND STRONG

MILITARILY, AND THAT FORCE

IS MADE UP OF THE KURDS.

THEIR ARMY IS CALLED THE

PESHMERGA, BUT THEY HAVE A

BIG PRESENCE IN SYRIA.

THEY HAVE A BIG PRESENCE

IN IRAQ.

AND THEY HAVE A

SUBSTANTIAL PRESENCE

INMENT SOUTINTHE SOUTH OF TURKEY.

AND THE TURKS DON'T WANT

IT.

THEY HATE THE KURDS.

THEY THINK THEY'RE REBELS

AND TERRORISTS, AND THEY

DON'T WANT ANY PART OF IT.

AND THE TURKS ARE A KEY

PLAYER IN NATO.

BUT THE TRUTH IS WE SHOULD

NOT LISTEN TO THE TURKS IN

THIS WHERE AREA.

THE KURDS NEED THEIR OWN

COUNTRY, AND THAT WOULD BE

A BOWARD AGAINST THEM.

YOU WOULD HAVE A FRIEND

WHO SHARES YOUR VALUES

SITTING IN A KEY STRATEGIC

PART OF THE WORLD.

THEY WOULD BE IN THE

NORTHERN PART OF SYRIA.

THEY WOULD BE IN THAT

SOUTHERN PART -- NOT

SOUTHERN, BUT THE WESTERN

PART OF IRAQ.

AND THEY COULD MAKE A

BALANCING FORCE THAT WE

NEED.

AND ALL WE'D HAVE TO DO IS

REINFORCE THEM MILITARILY,

WITH THE APPROPRIATE

MODERN WEAPONS, AND THEY

COULD DO THE REST.

IT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN

SITUATION.

I KNOW THE TURKS WOULDN'T

LIKE IT, BUT THAT IS TOUGH

LUCK.

Wendy: THANKS, PAT.

UP NEXT, AN INNOCENT MAN

IS SENTENCED TO 271 YEARS

BEHIND BARS, AND HE WAS

ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES.

4% OF PEOPLE SENTENCED

TO DEATH ARE ACTUALLY

INNOCENT.

SO HAVE ALL OF THE ERRORS

BEEN CORRECTED?

I THINK IT WOULD BE

ERRONEOUS FOR US TO THINK

SO.

Wendy: HEAR HOW

TECHNOLOGY IS HELPING THE

WRONGFULLY ACCUSED.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: WELCOME BACK.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE WITH US

TODAY.

WE HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS

THINGS FOR YOU, AND ONE OF

THEM IS COMING UP.

20,000 AMERICANS,

THAT'S AN ESTIMATE OF HOW

MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE SIT

IN PRISON BECAUSE THEY

WERE WRONGFULLY CONVICTED

OF CRIMES THAT THEY DID

NOT COMMIT.

AS CHARLENE AARON REPORTS,

THESE SHOCKING NUMBERS

HAVE LED SOME EVANGELICAL

CHRISTIANS TO CHANGE THEIR

MINDS ABOUT CAPITAL

PUNISHMENT.

Charlene: MARVIN

ANDERSON ENJOYS WORKING AS

A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS

IN HANOVER COUNTY,

VIRGINIA.

A DREAMI DREAM JOB OF HIS SINCE

AGE 10.

IT WAS A DREAM THAT ALMOST

DIDN'T CAME TRUE.

IN 1982, A REPORT CAME IN

THAT A BLACK MAN THAT

RAPED AND BEATEN A WHITE

PERSON.

AND THEY CAME AND SAID,

HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND.

ON I ONLY HEARD WHAT

EVERYBODY HEARD.

Reporter: THEY SHOWED

THE VICTIM THAT COLOR

PHOTO, ALONG WITH SIX

OTHER BLACK AND WHITE

MUGSHOTS.

SHE POINTED OUT ANDERSON

FROM BOTH THE PHOTO SPREAD

AND THE LINEUP.

I WAS TOLD TO STEP INTO

THE ROOM, AND EVERYBODY

ELSE IN THE LINEUP WAS

ESCORTED OUT.

WHEN HE CAME BACK IN, AND

I LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID,

SHE IDENTIFIED ME?

AND HE SAID YES, AND I

STARTED CRYING.

Reporter: DURING THE

TRIAL, THE VICTIM

MAINTAINED ANDERSON

SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER,

BEAT HER, AND LEFT HER FOR

DEAD.

MEANWHILE, PEOPLE IN THE

COMMUNITY TOLD THE POLICE

TO JOHN OTIS LINCOLN WAS

RESPONSIBLE, AND A BICYCLE

THAT WAS USED DURING THE

ATTACK WAS IDENTIFIED BY

THE OWNER, SAYING THAT

LINCOLN HAD STOLEN ABOUT

30 MINUTES BEFORE THE

ATTACK.

YET ANDERSON WAS FOUND

GUILTY AND SENTENCED TO

210 YEARS IN PRISON.

THE ENTIRE ROOM WENT

DARK.

I COULDN'T SEE ANYONE.

Reporter: IN 1988,

SIX YEARS AFTER ANDERSEN

WENT TO PRISON, LIN LINCOLN

CONFESSED TO THE CRIME.

BUT THE JUDGE REFUSED TO

VACATE ANDERSON'S

SENTENCE.

IN 1994, THE SENATES INNOCENCE

PROJECT TOOK HIS CASE.

ATTORNEY VANESSA POPKINS

SAYS THE SYSTEM MISHANDLED

ANDERSON'S CASE ON MANY

LEVELS.

WE WERE VERY TROUBLED

BY THE LINEUP, AND THE

PROCEDURE THAT LED TO HER

EYE WITNESS IDENTIFICATION

IN THE CASE.

AND ASIDE FROM THAT, THERE

WAS THIS VERY TROUBLING

EVIDENCE POINTING TO

ANOTHER PERSON AS THE

ACTUAL PERPETRATOR IN THE

CRIME.

Reporter: ACCORDING

TO THE INNOCENCE PROJECT,

EYE WITNESS

MISIDENTIFICATION, FALSE

CONFESSIONS, AND

GOVERNMENT MISCONDUCT ARE

THE LEADING CAUSES OF

WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS.

D.N.A. EVIDENCE MADE A

DIFFERENCE IN ANDERSON'S

CASE.

THEY GOT A PROFILE THEY

WERE ABLE TO RUN, AND LO

AND BEHOLD, IT TURNED OUT

THAT THE D.N.A. WAS

CONSISTENT WITH OTIS LING

LINCOLN, WHO BY THEN WAS

IN THE DATA BASE.

Charlene: SINCE 1989,

D.N.A. TECHNOLOGY HAS

HELPED MANY.

LAST YEAR, THE NATIONAL

ASSOCIATION OF

EVANGELICALS REVERSED ITS

LONG-STANDING SUPPORT OF

THE DEATH PENALTY.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF

D.N.A. EVIDENCE HAS

PROVIDED NEW WAYS FOR US

TO PROBE THE GUILT OR

INNOCENCE OF THOSE WHO ARE

CONVICTED OR WHO ARE

ACCUSED OF CRIMES.

Charlene: SPEAKING TO

CONGRESS LAST YEAR, POPE

FRANCIS CALLED ON THE U.S.

TO ABOLISH THE DEATH

PENALTY.

THE GROUP "CONSERVATIVES

CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEATH

PENALTY SAID," THE DEATH

PENALTY DOES NOT MAKE

SOCIETY SAFER, AND IT CAN

PROLONG THE LEGAL PROCESS.

IN LIGHT OF THESE CONCERNS

AND RECENT WRONGFUL

CONVICTIONS AND BOTCH

EXECUTIONS, MOST STATES

SHOULD HEED THE POPE'S

CALL TO END THE DEATH

PENALTY."

D.N.A. EVIDENCE HELPED

FREE 18 PEOPLE FACING

EXECUTION.

SHE QUESTIONS THEIR FATE

HAD THAT TECHNOLOGY NOT BE

AVAILABLE IN THEIR CASES.

BASICALLY 4% OF PEOPLE

SENTENCED TO DEATH ARE

ACTUALLY INNOCENT.

SO HAVE ALL OF THOSE

ERRORS BEEN CORRECTED?

I THINK IT WOULD BE IR

ERRONEOUS FOR US TO THINK

SO.

WE DON'T ALWAYS GET IT

RIGHT.

Charlene: MARVIN

ANDERSON SPENT 15 YEARS IN

PRISON AND FOUR YEARS ON

PAROLE.

IN 2002, HE WAS FULLY

EXONERATED AND RECEIVED

COMPENSATION FROM THE

STATE OF VIRGINIA.

TODAY HE SERVES AS CHIEF

OF THE HANOVER FIVE

DEPARTMENT.

HE SAYS SPENDING TIME IN

PRISON FOR A CRIME HE

DIDN'T COMMIT WAS PAINFUL,

BUT HE IS NOT BITTER.

HE THANKS GOD FOR A SECOND

CHANCE AT FULFILLING HIS

LIFE'S PASSION.

I TALKED TO GOD AND

SAID, JUST TAKE OVER MY

LIFE.

DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO

WITH IT.

I TRIED AND I DIDN'T

SUCCEED.

SO I'M PUTTING MY FAITH IN

YOU.

AND I THINK I'M DOING

PRETTY WELL TODAY.

Charlene: CHARLENE

AARON, CBN NEWS, HANOVER

COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

Pat: HE HAS EVERY

REASON TO BE BITTER, TO BE

ANGRY OR VINDICTIVE, OR

WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO

USE, BUT HE SAYS, NO, I'M

GOING TO TURN MY LIFE OVER

TO GOD.

AND THE LORD HAS

VINDICATED HIM.

WE'VE GOT SOME MORE ABOUT

THAT, BUT WE'VE BEEN

TALKING ABOUT A NATION OF

CRIMINALS.

WE HAVE CRIMINALIZED

EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE

IMAGINED.

AND WE'VE GOT TO STRIKE

THESE LAWS OFF THE BOOKS.

THERE IS AN EFFORT NOW IN

CONGRESS TO REWRITE THE

CRIMINAL STATUTES.

WE HAVE TOO MANY CRIMES

FOR LITTLE OFFENSES.

AND THE BURDEN OF PROOF

HAS SHIFTED TO THE

ACCUSED, AS NEVER BEFORE.

WE HAVE THIS MISCARRIAGE

OF JUSTICE CONTINUOUSLY.

WE HAVE GOT TO DO

SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Wendy: PAT, THE REAL

RAPIST CONFESSED A FEW

YEARS LATER, BUT THE JUDGE

WOULDN'T LOOK AT IT?

Pat: THAT'S THE THING

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

THE JUDGES SAY, WE DID IT

RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, AND

I'M NOT GOING TO

APOLOGIZE.

WE CONVICTED HIM, AND OUR

SYSTEM WORKS.

YOU SEE, IF HE SAYS I WAS

WRONG, THEN HE HAS TO SAY

THAT THE SYSTEM I WORK

UNDER IS WRONG.

THE LAW THAT CAME BEFORE

ME IS WRONG.

THE DECISION OF THE JURY

IS WRONG.

AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO

THAT BECAUSE THEY LOSE

FACE.

BUT THEY'VE GOT TO.

THEY'VE GOT TO ADMIT WHEN

THEY MAKE A MISTAKE.

Wendy: THEY DO.

THAT'S INCREDIBLE.

WELL, UP NEXT, THE

STORY OF ANOTHER INNOCENT

MAN, AND D.N.A. EVIDENCE

COULDN'T BAIL HIM OUT.

THE SHERIFF WAS GOING

TO DO EVERYTHING IN HIS

POWER TO MAKE SURE I WENT

TO PRISON.

Wendy: FIND OUT WHAT

SET THIS MAN FREE, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: IT IS SO EASY

FOR A PRISONER TO BECOME A

NUMBER.

IT'S SO EAT EASY FOR A LAW MAN

WHO DECIDES THAT HE IS

GOING TO BE ELECTED TO

OFFICE OR RECEIVE

COMMENDATION ON THE

STRENGTH ON HOW MANY

CONVICTIONS HE HAS GOT.

IT IS SEE EASY FOR HIM TO

FAKE EVIDENCE AND BLAME

THE INNOCENT.

IT HAPPENS, REGRETTABLY,

ALL OF THE TIME.

YOU WISH IT DIDN'T.

THEY PUT IT UP IN MOVIES,

BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

AND THERE IS SOME THOUGHT

THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF

THE WHOLE NUMBER OF GUILTY

MEN WENT FREE RATHER THAN

ONE INNOCENT MAN TO BE

CONVICTED.

BUT THAT DIDN'T HELP JOSH

KEIZER, JOSH WAS CONVICTED

OF SECOND-DEGREE MURDER

AND SENT TO PRISON, BUT HE

DIDN'T DO IT.

Reporter:

NOVEMBER 1992, 19-YEAR-OLD

MICHELLE LAWLESS WAS FOUND

IN HER CAR IN BENTON,

MISSOURI, BRUTALLY BEATEN

AND SHOT TO DEATH.

JOSH KEIZER, AN

18-YEAR-OLD GANG MEMBER

WITH A TROUBLED PAST, WAS

ARRESTED.

THE SHERIFF AND PROSECUTOR

QUICKLY BUILT A CASE

AGAINST HIM AND BROUGHT

HIM TO TRIAL.

THE ONLY PROBLEM: JOSH

KEIZER WAS INNOCENT.

I KNEW THAT THE SHERIFF

WAS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING

IN HIS POWER TO MAKE SURE

I WENT TO PRISON.

I KNEW I WAS INNOCENT, BUT

I KNEW THAT HE DIDN'T

CARE.

THE EVIDENCE SPOKE IN MY

FAVOR.

THERE WAS D.N.A. FOUND

UNDERNEATH THE VICTIM'S

FINGERNAILS, AND THE

F.B.I. TESTED THE D.N.A.

AND EXCLUDED ME.

THERE WAS NO FINGERPRINT,

NO PALM PRINT, NO WEAPON,

NO MOTIVE, NO CONNECTION

TO THE VICTIM.

Reporter: IT TOOK

ONLY THREE AND A HALF

HOURS OF DELIBERATION FOR

THE JURY TO ARRIVE AT

THEIR VERDICT: GUILTY.

JOSH WAS SENTENCED TO 60

YEARS IN PRISON FOR A

MURDER HE DID NOT COMMIT.

IT'S STILL HARD TO

THINK ABOUT.

EVERYTHING WENT NUMB.

IN THE DISTANCE I HEARD

YELLING AND SCREAMING.

AND I REALIZED THAT AT

THAT MOMENT WHAT I WAS

HEARING WAS MYSELF.

I DIDN'T DO THIS.

I DIDN'T DO THIS.

Reporter: BEFORE THE

TRIAL EVER BEGAN, JOSH

RECEIVED A BIBLE IN JAIL

AND HAD STARTED READING

IT.

HE SAYS HE RENEWED HIS

CHILDHOOD FAITH.

I JUST KEPT READING.

I JUST KEPT READING THE

SCRIPTURES.

I WAS FINDING MYSELF

KNOWING THAT I HAVE ALWAYS

BELIEVED THIS STUFF.

I WAS LEANING ON JESUS

MEDIUMLY BECAUSIMMEDIATELY BECAUSE I

DIDN'T HAVE AN OPTION.

HE WAS MY ONLY FRIEND.

Reporter: AND HE

ENTERED THE MISSOURI STATE

PENITENTIARY, ONCE

LABELLED THE BLOODIEST

47 ACRES IN AMERICA.

I LIVED WITH SERIAL

KILLERS, CHILD MOLESTERS,

THIEVES, LIARS, CHEATS.

I LIVED IN A NIGHTMARE.

I LIVED WHEREVER CORNER

YOU WALK AROUND THERE

COULD BE BLOODSHED.

I LITERALLY HAD MEN

GAMBLING HOW LONG IT WAS

GOING TO TAKE ME TO BE

KILLED OR RAPED.

THE HAND OF GOD WAS ON ME.

AND I BECAME SOMETHING

DIFFERENT.

I BECAME A CHRISTIAN.

WHEN YOU HAVE CHRIST IN

THAT PLACE, YOU CAN SEE

THE SUNSHINE.

YOU NOTICE THE LIFE AROUND

YOU.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF

GETTING TO KNOW THE LORD,

IS LIVING IN THAT

NIGHTMARE, BUT LIVING IN

PURPOSE.

WHERE THERE IS NO PURPOSE.

LIVING IN PEACE WHERE

THERE IS NO PEACE.

FEELING FREE WHERE

EVERYTHING AROUND YOU IS

CONFINED.

Reporter: INMATES AND

CHAPLAINS AROUND WITNESSED

JOSH'S FAITH AND THE

PERSECUTION THAT CAME WITH

IT.

IT WAS A CONSTANT

BARAGE FOR JOSH TO STAND

SO STRONG WITH THIS FAITH,

THAT GOD WAS GOING TO

DELIVER HIM FROM THESE

THINGS.

HE FOCUSES IN ON THE

WORD AND HE FOCUSES IN ON

HIS GOD.

HE STILL HAS THAT HOPE

WHEN IT SEEMED LIKE NO ONE

ELSE BELIEVED IN HIM.

Reporter: BUT AFTER

TWO FAILED APPEALS AND

LITTLE HOPE FOR RELEASE,

THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN

JOSH STRUGGLED TO KEEP

GOING.

ON TWO OCCASIONS HE PRAYED

THAT GOD WOULD END HIS

LIFE.

I DID NOT WANT TO WAKE

UP UNTIL DAY IN PRISON.

I WAS TIRED.

AND I HAD HAD ENOUGH.

AND HE WOULD TELL ME

QUIETLY, I'VE GOTTEN YOU

THIS FAR, WHAT MAKES YOU

THINK I CAN'T GET YOU TO

WHERE I WANT YOU.

AND HE STARTED WHISPERING

IN MY HEART AND MY MIND,

FIVE YEARS FROM NOW NONE

OF THIS IS GOING TO MEAN

ANYTHING.

Reporter: AROUND THAT

TIME, JANE WILLIAMS, FROM

"LOVE INC," A PRISON

MINISTRY HEARD JOSH'S

STORY.

I WANTED TO BE DECLARED

INNOCENT.

AND GOD GAVE ME A PEACE

ABOUT THAT.

GOD WAS ABOUT TO SHOW OFF.

HE WAS ABOUT TO DO

SOMETHING THAT HADN'T EVER

BEEN DONE BEFORE.

AND I KNEW THAT.

I BELIEVED THAT.

Reporter: AFTER 16

YEARS IN PRISON FOR A

MURDER HE DIDN'T COMMIT,

JOSH HAD A NEW TRIAL.

THIS TIME, BY CLEAR AND

CONVINCING EVIDENCE, HE

WAS DECLARED INNOCENT.

AN OUTCOME ONLY JOSH HAD

SEEN COMING.

I HAD SEEN GOD DELIVER

ME AFTER SITUATION, AFTER

SITUATION AFTER SITUATION,

PEOPLE STRIKE TO ATTACK

ME, BEAT ME, RAPE ME, AND

I HAD SEEN GOD DELIVER ME

TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME

AFTER TIME, SO HOW COULD I

EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

AND THAT TIME CAME.

I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR WHAT

THE JUDGE DID.

I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR MY

ATTORNEYS.

BUT ABOVE ALL, I'M

THANKFUL BECAUSE GOD GAVE

THEM TO ME, AND HE WAS HE

WHO SET ME FREE, AND MY

SPIRIT, IN MY HEART, IN MY

MIND, AND IN MY BODY.

Reporter: TODAY JOSH

IS A FREE MAN.

HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH

PEOPLE WHO ENCOURAGE HIM

IN HIS LOVE AND FAITH.

TURN TO JESUS.

IN YOUR MOMENT OF

DESPERATION, TURN TO

JESUS.

I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT

THE LORD IS THE LORD OF

HOPE.

AND THAT HE IS NOT

INTIMIDATED BY ANYBODY'S

PROBLEMS.

HE IS NOT SHOCKED BY YOUR

STRUGGLES.

HE CAN HANDLE YOU.

AND HE CAN HANDLE ANYTHING

YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.

AND HE STILL DOES MIRACLES

MIRACLES.

ON OCCASION HE REACHES

INTO A PRISON AND SETS A

MAN FREE AFTER 16 YEARS.

THAT'S THE JESUS I WANT

PEOPLE TO KNOW.

Pat: CAN YOU IMAGINE

WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD FEEL

LIKE WRONGFULLY CONVICTED,

LOCKED UP IN PRISON, WHERE

THEIR LIVES ARE REGIMENTED

EVERY DAY.

AND THEY'RE PUT IN A SMALL

CELL.

THEY GET OUT TO EXERCISE

FOR AN HOUR OR SO.

BEYOND THAT, THEY LIVE IN

THAT CELL.

REGIMENTED.

THEY'RE ORDERED AROUND AND

THEY'RE ABUSED.

AND WITH THE VIOLENCE

THERE IS IN PRISON, THERE

IS NEVER A MOMENT WHEN

YOU'RE SAFE THAT SOMEBODY

WON'T TRY TO STICK A KNIFE

IN YOU OR MOLEST YOU, RAPE

YOU, OR SOMETHING.

AND JOSH HAD TO LIVE WITH

THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER

YEAR.

AND YOU CAN IMAGINE HIS

LIFE.

IMAGINE YOURS, YOU'VE SAID

IMAGINE YOURS, YOU'VE SAID

TO GOD, I CAN'T TAKE IT

ANY LONGER.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY

LONGER.

WELL, JOSH TOOK IT AND HE

TOOK IT AND HE TOOK IT AND

HE TOOK IT, AND HE NEVER

GAVE UP FAITH.

AND THE LORD WHO COMES TO

RESCUE HIS PEOPLE SAW

JOSH'S HEART, RECOGNIZED

HIS STEADFAST NATURE, AND

SAID, I HAVE HEARD YOUR

PRAYER, AND I'M GOING TO

DELIVER YOU.

IT'S A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE

TO GO THROUGH, BUT HE IS

THROUGH IT, AND GOD HAS

BROUGHT HIM OUT OF IT.

AND NOW HE HAS A TESTIMONY

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

NOW, HOW ABOUT YOU?

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

HAS SOMETHING HAPPENED TO

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

YOU.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

WHAT IF YOU'RE IN A

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

SITUATION AND YOU'VE SAID,

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

GOD, I CAN'T STAND IT ANY

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

LONGER.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

THIS MARRIAGE IS SO

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

HORRIBLE, I CAN'T STAND

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

IT.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

THIS JOB IS SO AWFUL, I

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

CAN'T STAND IT.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

POVERTY IS SO GRINDING IN

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

MY LIFE, I CAN'T STAND IT.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

THE ABUSE I HAVE TO TAKE

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

AT HOME, I CAN'T STAND IT

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

ANY LONGER.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

WELL, JOSH COULD HAVE SAID

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

HE DIDN'T.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

AND HE TRUSTED THE LORD.

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

NOW, RIGHT NOW WOULD YOU

AND A BLESSING.

AND A BLESSING.

LIKE TO TRUST HIM AND ASK

LIKE TO TRUST HIM AND ASK

THE GREAT COUNSELLOR, THE

GREAT DEFENDER, TO COME ON

YOUR BEHALF.

BOW YOUR HEAD.

TALK TO THE LORD WITH ME.

AND AS I PRAY, I WANT YOU

TO SAY THE SAME WORDS.

AND I WANT YOU TO MEAN

THEM IN YOUR HEART.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS, YOU KNOW THE

SUFFERING I'M GOING

THROUGH.

NOBODY KNOWS THE

SUFFERING, NOBODY KNOWS

BUT JESUS.

AND I KNOW YOU KNOW, LORD,

BECAUSE YOU'VE SUFFERED

BEYOND ANYTHING I CAN

IMAGINE.

AND SO I COME RIGHT NOW

AND I ASK YOU TO TAKE MY

CASE.

YOU ARE THE GREAT

INTERCESSOR.

YOU ARE THE ADVOCATE FOR

THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING.

AND I COME TO YOU NOW AND

I SAY, LORD, COME INTO MY

HEART.

LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON

I'LL LIVE FOR YOU AND

SERVE YOU.

THANK YOU, IN JESUS' NAME.

NOW, IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME

JUST THEN, GOD HEARD AND

HE ANSWERED.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I

WANT YOU TO START THANKING

HIM AND PRAISING HIM, BUT

HELP IS ON THE WAY.

GOD KNOWS THE INNOCENT.

AND HE IS GOING TO TAKE

CARE OF YOU.

AND IF YOU ARE GUILTY,

CONFESS IT AND THE LORD

WILL FORGIVE.

AND, AGAIN, MIRACLES CAN

TAKE PLACE.

CALL RIGHT NOW ON THE NAME

OF THE LORD, AND WATCH

WHAT HAPPENS.

NOW, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL

IN?

I WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP

YOU.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT IS A C.D. HERE AND A

LITTLE BOOK LET.

I'LL GIVE YOU THIS FREE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST

CALL IN: 1-800-759-0700.

SAY, I PRAYED WITH PAT,

AND I'M NOW FREE.

WENDY?

Wendy: PAT, STILL

AHEAD, HE HAS AUTHORED A

BEST-SELLER, AND HE HAS

UNEARTHED THE TRUTH OF OUR

NATION'S FOUNDERS.

HE'LL REVEAL THE LIBERTY

WHEN WE RETURN.

Efrem: WELCOME BACK

TO WASH FOR THIS CBN

NEWSBREAK.

THE FUNERAL FOR ANTONIN

SCALIA HAS BEEN SET FOR

11:00 THIS SATURDAY

MORNING.

HIS BODY WILL LIE AT THE

SUPREME COURT FRIDAY

MORNING FROM 10:30 TO

8:00 p.m. THAT EVENING.

SCALIA'S PLACE, AND THE

COURT AND THE MAIN

ENTRANCE OF THE COURT'S

CHAMBERS WERE DRAPED IN

BLACK ON THURSDAY.

> SOUTH DAKOTA WOULD BE

THE FIRST STATE TO APPROVE

A LAW THAT WOULD A ALLOW

TRANSGENDERS TO USE

BATHROOMS FROM THEIR

GENDER AT BIRTH.

SUPPORTERS ARGUE IT WOULD

PROTECT CHILDREN.

NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE AN

INDEPTH LOOK AT WHY SCHOOL

DISTRICTS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY COULD FACE A LOSS

OF MONEY IF THEY DON'T

ALLOW TRANSGENDER CHILDREN

IN ALL BATHROOMS.

> PAT AND WENDY WILL BE

BACK WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB" RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELL, WE HAVE A

STUDENT AT REGENT, OR HE

USED TO BE A STUDENT AT

REGENT, AND HE IS A BIT OF

A WONDER KING.

HE IS A CONCERT PIANIST,

AN ACCOMPLISHED SPEAKER,

HE IS A BEST-SELLING

AUTHOR, AND HE IS A LAW

STUDENTMENT ANSTUDENT.

AND HE IS ONLY 27 YEARS

OLD.

AND NOW HE CAN ADD

SOMETHING ELSE TO HIS

IMPRESSIVE RESUME, HE IS

THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED THE

SECRET WISDOM OF OUR

FOUNDING FATHERS.

AND THE BOOK IS CALLED

"LIBERTY'S SECRETS."

SO THESE ARE THE INSIDE

VISIONS OF OUR FOUNDING

FATHERS.

JOSHUA, WHAT A FASCINATING

BOOK.

Reporter: JOSHUA

CHARLES IS A 27-YEAR-OLD

LAW STUDENT KNOWN FOR HIS

"NEW YORK TIMES"

BEST-SELLER, "THE ORIGINAL

ARGUMENT."

JOSHUA'S NEWEST BOOK,

"LIBERTY'S SECRETS,"

ANSWERS PRESSING

QUESTIONS: WHAT DID THE

FOUNDING FATHERS REALLY

THINK ABOUT RELIGION,

EDUCATION, AND THE ROLE OF

GOVERNMENT.

TO TACKLE THESE ISSUES,

JOSHUA UNEARTHED WRITINGS

FROM OUR NATION'S

FOUNDERS.

AND THERE ARE LETTERS,

DIARIES AND MEMOS TO LET

OUR FOREFATHERS ANSWER,

USING THEIR OWN WORDS.

Pat: WELCOME TO "700

CLUB," JOSHUA WILLIAMS.

IT IS AN HONOR TO BE

HERE.

I'M A LAW STUDENT AT

REGENT LAW.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF

TERMS THROWN OUT ABOUT

CHRISTIANS THESE DAYS

ABOUT BEING BIGOTED OR

WHATEVER, BUT AT REGENT,

I'VE HAD AMAZING

PROFESSORS WHO HAVE ALWAYS

BEEN AVAILABLE.

THERE IS A WIDE ARRAY OF

VIEWPOINTS THAT ARE ALWAYS

WELCOME.

I JUST LOVE BEING THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR SETTING

THAT UP.

Pat: AND YOU'RE DOING

WELL?

I THINK SO.

YOU HAVE TO ASK MY

PROFESSORS.

Pat: WHEN DO YOU

GRADUATE, NEXT YEAR?

YEAH, 2017.

Pat: IN THE MEANTIME,

YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO

WRITE THIS BOOK.

TELL US -- THERE IS SO

MUCH IN THIS BOOK, I CAN'T

GO TO ALL OF IT.

WHAT WAS MOTIVATING THE

FOUNDING FATHERS THAT YOU

FOUND?

OF THEM?

WELL, I THINK PRIOR TO

THE FOUNDING OF THE UNITED

STATES, A PEOPLE HAD NEVER

BEEN ABLE TO CHOOSE THEIR

FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

THEY'D NEVER BEEN ABLE TO

SET IT UP FROM THE GROUND

FLOOR, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THEY RECOGNIZED THAT

HISTORICALLY THAT HAD

NEVER HAPPENED, AND THEY

HAD AN IMMENSE OPPORTUNITY

ON THEIR HANDS.

BUT THEY ALSO REALIZED TO

MAKE THAT POSSIBLE, TO BE

A SELF-GOVERNING PEOPLE,

YOU'VE GOT TO BE

KNOWLEDGEABLE AND

VIRTUOUS.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE

LONGEST SET OF CHAPTERS IN

THE BOOK.

THE BOOK.

THEY KNEW WITHOUT A MORAL

PEOPLE THAT CONTROLLED

THEMSELVES AND KEPT THEIR

PASSIONS IN CHECK, BUT

ALSO KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE

WHO KNEW ABOUT THEIR

LEADERS, THAT A FREE

SOCIETY JUST WOULDN'T

WORK.

THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY WHAT

THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

Pat: I SEE THESE

YOUNG PEOPLE GOING TO ONE

OF THESE BERNIE SANDERS'

RALLIES, AND I THINK

YOU'RE A BUNCH OF SHEEP.

THEY'RE CHEERING A MAN WHO

WANTS TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF

THEIR MONEY.

WHAT IS IT?

I REFER IN THE BOOK TO

THE FOUNDING FATHERS AS

THE FOUNDING PROPHETS.

NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE LIKE

EZEKIEL OR JEREMIAH, BUT

BECAUSE IN THEIR WRITINGS

THEY WERE SO FAMILIAR WITH

TWO THINGS: HUMAN NATURE

AND HUMAN HISTORY.

YOU SEE THE SAME SORTS OF

PATTERNS.

I DON'T SAY HISTORY

REPEATS ITSELF, BUT IT IS

A VARIATION ON THE TOMBS.

AND I WAS READING JUSTICE

JACKSON, WHO WAS THE

PROSECUTOR IN THE TRIAL

AGAINST THE NAZIS, AND HE

SAID, NEVER BEFORE HAD A

GROUP OF MEN SEARCHED THE

ANALS OF HUMAN HISTORY SO

COMPLETELY TO FIGURE OUT

THE SECRET OF HOW TO MAKE

A SOCIETY POSSIBLE.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SAID

YESTERDAY.

AND A LOT, IN MY

OPINION -- I RESPECT

BERNIE SANDERS FOR HOW

HONEST HE IS, BUT I DON'T

PARTAKE OF HIS VIEWS.

BUT A LOT OF THINGS

RELATED TO BANKING

INSTITUTIONS, MONOPOLIES,

CLASS WARFARE-TYPE ISSUES,

THE BREAKDOWN OF MORALITY,

ON ALL OF THESE ISSUES,

THE FOUNDING FATHERS HAD

THINGS TO SAY.

IT WAS COMPLETELY

PROPHETIC.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SAID

YESTERDAY.

Pat: AND THEY HAD A

BALANCED VIEW OF HUMAN

NATURE.

THEY WEREN'T UTOPEIAN AT

ALL.

YEAH.

Pat: THEY REALLY

UNDERSTOOD THAT MAN WAS

SINFUL.

AND THEY SET UP A

GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD KEEP

MAN'S SIN FROM BREAKING

OUT.

YEAH.

WELL, THE THING ABOUT THAT

IS WE HAVE THE BENEFIT

OF -- WELL, THE SOMEWHAT

DUBIOUS BENEFIT OF 20th

CENTURY HISTORY, THE

BLOODIEST CENTURY IN

HISTORY.

THE FOUNDERS KNEW THAT

HUMAN NATURE WAS THAT

WHICH I INVENTED AND CREATED

AUSCHWITZ, BUT ALSO

PAINTED THE MONA LISA.

AND CARRIED OUT THINGS IN

RUSSIA, AND ALSO WROTE

MOZART SYMPHONIES.

SO THIS VERY

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ASSUMPTION

ABOUT THE DEPRAVITY AND

HUMAN NATURE, THEY

INCORPORATED THEM INTO

ALMOST EVERYTHING AS FAR

AS SETTING UP OUR

GOVERNMENT.

Pat: WHAT ABOUT NOW?

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE

FORCES THAT WISH TO

DESTROY THAT.

I THINK THERE ARE.

YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT MY

GENERATION, I'M A

MILLENNIAL.

I THINK MY GENERATION HAS

A LOT OF POTENTIALLY GREAT

QUALITIES.

WE'RE HAVE VERY PASSIONATE

GENERATION.

WE WANT TO DO THINGS THAT

MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND I

THINK THAT IS ALL GOOD.

BUT I WOULD SAY IN

GENERAL -- AND IT'S NOT SO

MUCH A CRITIQUE OF MY

GENERATION BUT A DIAGNOSIS

OF IT.

WE WERE RAISED BY A

GENERATION BEFORE.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE

WE CAME FROM.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW OUR

NATIONAL STORY.

WE DON'T KNOW THE EXAMPLES

OF HISTORY.

I HAVE VARIOUS FRIENDS WHO

MAY BE BERNIE SANDERS% BERNIE SANDERS'

FANS, AND I READ TO THEM

PEOPLE SAYING SIMILAR

THINGS FROM HUNDREDS OF

YEARS AGO.

AND THEY SAY, THAT TOTALLY

MAKE SENSE.

AND I SAY, THIS WAS SE SAID

IN 18 WHATEVER, AND THEY

ARE LIKE, WHAT TRE?

I THINK A LOT OF

MILLENNIALS THINK HUMAN

NATURE IS INHERENTLY GOOD,

AND HISTORY BE BELIES THAT

VERY WELL.

Pat: GLEN BECK IS AN

INTERESTED GUY.

YOU'VE DONE SOME WORK

TOGETHER?

IT IS A LONG STORY, BUT

I ENDED UP BEING ON HIS

FOX SHOW FOR TOTALLY

UNRELATED REASONS.

HE TREATED ME VERY WELL

PERSONALLY, AND I RESPECT

HIM.

AND IT LED TO THIS.

AND NOW I'M AT THE MUSEUM

OF THE BIBLE, DOING A LOT

OF WRITING AND

RESEARCHING.

HE HELPED CATALIZE THAT

AND GET IT STARTED, SO HE

HAS MY CONTINUAL THANKS.

Pat: YOU DON'T WANT

TO MISS THIS, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN.

IT IS VERY INTERESTING AND

VERY PERS SEP TIFF.

PERCEPTIVE.

IT IS CALLED "LIBERTY'S

SECRETS."

JOSHUA, THANK YOU FOR

BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING

ME.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Wendy: COMING UP, IT

IS TIME TO "BRING IT ON"

WITH YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

MARK SAYS, "IS IT WRONG TO

ENJOY A CIGAR, PIPE, OR

CIGARETTE ON AN OCCASION

IF IT IS NOT AN

ADDICTION?"

PAT WILL TACKLE THAT

QUESTION AND MUCH MORE

WHEN WE RETURN.

Wendy: TO SEE THIS

WEEK'S MOST-VIEWED

STORIES, GOING TO

cbn.com.

Wendy: IT IS TIME TO

"BRING IT ON" WITH YOUR

E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH

THIS ONE FROM MARK.

HE SAYS, "I ENJOY HAVING A

CIGAR, PIPE, OR CIGARETTE

ON OCCASION.

IT IS NOT AN ADDICTION,

JUST A PLEASURE.

IS THIS WRONG?"

Pat: MARK, THE BIBLE

SAYS WHATEVER IS NOT OF

FAITH IS SIN.

BUT HERE IS WHAT PAUL

SAID.

HE SAID, LOOK, IF MEAT

MAKES MY BROTHER TO

OFFEND, I'LL EAT NO MEAT

WHILE THE WORLD STANDS.

LESS ASSUME SOMEBODY IS

ADDICTED TO TOBACCO, AND

YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, AND

YOU SAY, WELL, LOOK, I'M

GOING TO LIGHT UP A CIGAR.

I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE

A CIGARETTE.

AND FOR YOU IT IS NOT A

SIN.

BUT FOR THAT PERSON, IT

MIGHT BE A SIN, AND IT

MIGHT GET THEM INTO LUNG

CANCER OR DESTROY THEM.

AND THEY WILL DO SOMETHING

BECAUSE OF YOUR EXAMPLE.

THAT'S WHAT APOSTLE PAUL

SAID.

MEAT IS OKAY.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

WITH EATING MEAT.

BUT IF MEAT CAUSE MY

BROTHERS TO OFFEND, I'LL

EAT NO MEAT.

I'LL REFRAME FROM

SOMETHING THAT IS LAWFUL

FOR ME LEST IT HURTS

SOMEBODY ELSE.

Wendy: ROGER SAYS,

"WHAT IS THE IMPARDONABLE

SIN AND HOW DO I KNOW IF

I'VE COMMITTED IT?"

Pat: THE ONLY

REIMPARDONABLE SIN IS

REFUSING TO ACCEPT THE

GRACE OF GOD.

I'VE GONE INTO LENGTH

ABOUT THAT, THE BLASPHEMY

AGAINST THE SPIRIT AND SO

FORTH.

WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND

DONE, THE BIBLE IS FILLED

WITH GRACE.

FILLED WITH FORGIVENESS.

FILLED WITH THE OFFER OF

GOD TO HOLD OUT

FORGIVENESS.

THE ONLY UNPARDONABLE ONE

IS THE SIN THAT SAYS I

REJECT THE WOOING OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT.

I WILL NOT RECEIVE YOU.

I WILL NOT ACCEPT JESUS AS

SAVIOR.

THERE IS NO SALVATION IF

YOU DO THAT.

Wendy: DARLENE SAYS,

"HOW CAN I HELP A FRIEND

WHO I KNOW IS ON COCAINE,

BUT WHO REFUSES TO ADMIT

IT.

I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT

HER."

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU,

COKE ADDICT, WHATEVER,

THEY'RE THE BIGGEST LIARS

YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR LIFE.

THEY'LL CONFISCATE AND

LIE.

THEY'LL FAKE DRUG TESTS,

AND YOU NAME IT.

THEY'RE THE MOST ANDROID

LIARS YOU'VE EVER SEEN.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP

THEM, THEY HAVE WHAT IS

CALLED A CONFRONTATION.

HAVE YOU A GROUP OF PEOPLE

WHO REALLY LOVE THIS

PERSON --

Wendy: AND

INTERVENTION.

Pat: AND

INTERVENTION -- YOU'VE GOT

THE RIGHT NAME.

AN INTERVENTION.

AND YOU SIT THEM DOWN AND

SAY, LOOK, HERE IS THE

DEAL: WE KNOW YOUR ON COKE

AND WE KNOW IT IS GOING TO

DESTROY YOU.

SEE IF THEY WON'T ADMIT IT

AND CONFESS IT AND THEN

YOU PRAY TOGETHER.

IT TAKES AN ANOINTING OF

THE LORD.

BUT AN INTERVENTION LIKE

THIS IS SOME WAY OF

HELPING.

YOUR FRIEND MAY NOT LIKE

IT, BUT THAT'S TOUGH LOVE.

Wendy: SARAH SAYS,

"MY CHURCH IS NOT GROWING.

INSTEAD, IT LOOKS LIKE IT

IS DYING.

THE PASTOR DOESN'T SEEM TO

SEE THERE IS A PROBLEM,

AND HE IS NOT GOOD AT

TAKING OTHER PEOPLE'S

IDEAS.

THERE ARE NO MEN IN MY

CHURCH, JUST WOMEN AND

YOUTH.

I WANT TO GROW

SPIRITUALLY, AND OTHER

CHURCH MEMBERS DO, TOO.

WHAT SHOULD WE DO?"

Pat: IT IS THE

BIGGEST THING IN THE

WORLD, TRYING TO CHANGE

SOMETHING YOU CAN'T.

THE BIBLE SAYS, DON'T PUT

NEW WINE INTO OLD SKINS.

AND YOU YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY

GOT AN OLD SKIN.

AND NEW WINE WILL CAUSE

THE SKIN TO BURST AND

YOU'LL LOSE EVERYTHING.

MUCH BETTER, FORM YOUR OWN

CHURCH WITH A GROUP OF

LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE, OR GO

SOME PLACE WHERE THEY'RE

FRESH AND OPEN TO NEW

IDEAS AND THEY'RE GROWING.

THERE ARE SO MANY

WONDERFUL CONGREGATIONS.

WHY WOULD YOU PUT UP WITH

A SITUATION LIKE THAT?

YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

SO MOVE.

Wendy: GOOD WORD,

MOVE.

ALL RIGHT.

BEV SAYS, "I'M A

60-YEAR-OLD WIDOW, I LOST

MY HUSBAND TO CANCER IN

NOVEMBER OF 2012.

AFTERWARDS, THE ONLY JOB

WAS ABLE TO GET WAS A

PART-TIME JOB IN A LOCAL

STORE.

RECENTLY THE STORE

INTRODUCED VOO-DOO DOLL

KEY CHAINS WITH ITS OWN

POWERS.

I THOUGHT ABOUT REFUSING

TO WAIT ON A CUSTOMER AND

ASK A CO-WORKER TO DO IT,

BUT I DO NEED THE JOB.

AM I MAKING TOO MUCH OUT

OF THIS?"

Pat: NO, YOU ARE NOT.

THERE ARE MANY JOBS OUT

THERE, LOOKING FOR PEOPLE

WHO ARE INTELLIGENT AND

HARD-WORKING AND LOYAL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP

TO THAT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE

YOUR HEART OVER TO VOO-DOO

OR MAGIC ARTS.

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,

THEY'LL BE HAVING LITTLE

DOLLS YOU PUT PINS IN TO

BRING DOWN CURSES ON THEM.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS

NEXT.

WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO DO

THAT?

GOD CAN GIVE YOU A JOB.

I KNOW IT WILL BE PAINFUL,

BUT GOD CAN GIVE YOU A

JOB.

HONE YOUR SKILLS BEFORE

YOU JUMP.

MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT

EVERYTHING IN ORDER.

AND POSSIBLY CAN LINE UP A

JOB BEFORE YOU QUIT THAT

ONE.

> WELL, WE LEAVE YOU

WITH TODAY'S POWER MINUTE

FROM JOHN.

IT SAYS THIS: "THEN YOU

WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU

FREE."

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME

WE'VE GOT.

FOR WENDY AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON, AND

WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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