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The 700 Club - March 29, 2016

“God’s Not Dead 2” producer and actor David A.R. White shares his passion behind faith based films. Plus, a C.S. Lewis essay causes one atheist to question her beliefs. Read Transcript


Efrem: AMERICA, THE

COMBAT ZONE.

CRIME HAS GOTTEN WORSE.

HEAR WHAT IS REALLY

BEHIND OUR COUNTRY'S

ALARMING SPIKE IN

VIOLENCE.

LET THE OFFICERS DO

THEIR JOBS.

PLUS...THE SEEK QUE SEQUEL TO

THE SURPRISE HIT.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVE

ONCE AND FOR ALL GOD'S NOT

DEAD.

CAREFUL, OR YOU MAY END

UP ON TRIAL.

TODAY ON "THE 700

CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THE GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA

BUCKLED UNDER THE PRESSURE

THAT WAS BEING PUT ON HIM

AS HE VETOED A BILL THAT

WOULD GUARANTEE RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM.

SO THAT PASTORS AND

FAITH-BASED GROUPS COULD

SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY

ABOUT SEXUAL ACTIVITY.

THE NEXT TARGET FOR GAY

ACTIVISTS IS THE STATE OF

NORTH CAROLINA.

Terry: THE POWERFUL

COALITION OF CORPORATE

LEADERS AND ACTIVISTS IS

FIGHTING TO UNDO A

BATHROOM BILL THERE.

THEY SAY IT IS ABOUT

EQUALITY, BUT CRITICS SAY

THEY'RE HARMING PEOPLE OF

FAITH AND THE PUBLIC GOOD.

EFREM GRAHAM REPORTS.

Efrem: IN NORTH

CAROLINA, THE GOVERNOR

CALLED A SPECIAL SESSION

TO SET UP A STATE BATHROOM

POLICY FOR GOVERNMENT

BATHROOMS.

WE'RE GOING TO SET A

STATE-WIDE STANDARD FOR

WHO BELONGS IN WHICH

BATHROOM.

THIS WOULD BE THE MOST

SWEEPING ANTI-LGBT BILL IN

THE NATION.

GIRLS LIKE ME SHOULD

NEVER BE FORCED TO UNDRESS

OR SHOWER IN THE PRESENCE

OF BOYS.

Efrem: THE LAW

MANDATES GOVERNMENT

BATHROOMS BE SEPARATED

PRIMARILY BY BIOLOGICAL

SEX.

IT SOUNDS STRAIGHTFORWARD,

BUT THE NATIONAL OUTCRY

HAS BEEN FIERCE.

THE MAYORS OF SETTLE, SAN

FRANCISCO, AND THE

GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK HAVE

BANNED NON-ESSENTIAL

PUBLICLY-FUNDED TRAVEL TO

NORTH CAROLINA.

AND THE NBA IS THREATENING

TO MOVE ITS 2017 ALL-STAR

GAME OUT OF CHARLOTTE.

IN GEORGIA THIS WEEK, THAT

KIND OF CORPORATE PRESSURE

LED TO THE GOVERNOR TO

VETO A WATERED DOWN BILL.

THE BILL PROVIDED

PROTECTION TO PASTORS WHO

DON'T WANT TO PERFORM

SAME-SEX WEDDINGS, BUT NOT

FOR WEDDING VENDORS WHO

DON'T WANT TO SERVE THEM.

BUT HIGH-POWERED

CORPORATIONS FROM NETFLIX

TO TIME WARNER AND DISNEY

THREATENED TO LEAVE

GORBACHEGEORGIA IF THE GOVERNOR

SIGNED THE BILL.

I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE

TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST

ANYONE TO PROTECT THE

FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY IN

GEORGIA.

EVERYONE THAT I SPOKE

TO IS OUTRAGED.

WE REALLY ARE.

WE ARE SURPRISED THAT

GOVERNOR DEAL WOULD BOW

DOWN TO HOLLYWOOD, THE

NFL.

Efrem: PASTOR GARLAND

HUNT SAYS LEADERS ARE NOW

RALLYING TO REVERSE WHAT

THE GORGE HA GOVERNOR HAS DONE.

IN NORTH CAROLINA, THEY'RE

HOPING THAT THE GOVERNOR

WILL NOT GIVE IN, DESPITE

ENORMOUS PRESSURE TO

REVERSE THE NEW LAW.

EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Pat: IN CANADA, IN

QUEBEC, THEY HAVE SIGNS IN

FRENCH, ONE SAYS "FEM,"

AND THE OTHER SAYS "OM."

AND THE CHILD OF ONE OF MY

FRIENDS SAID, AM I A FEMI

OR A OMI BECAUSE HE DIDN'T

KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

THIS IS THE GREATEST

NATION ON EARTH.

WE HAVE DEJE DEGENERATED BEYOND

MEASURE.

THIS KIND OF THING IS JUST

ABSURD.

AND WE'RE MAKING A BIG

CIVIL RIGHTS THING.

AND THE FACT THAT THE NFL,

SUPPOSEDLY A BUNCH OF

MAN-SIZED WARRIORS, ARE

OUT ON THE FIELD AND

THEY'RE SAYING WE WANT

HOMOSEXUALS TO BE OUR

HEROS AND WE'RE GOING TO

FIGHT FOR THEM.

AND IF THE CHRISTIANS --

IF YOU CAN CRITICIZE THEM,

THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO

NORTH CAROLINA.

WE WON'T GO TO VIRGINIA OR

GEORGIA OR WHEREVER.

THE LAW SAYS THAT

CHRISTIANS HAVE A RIGHT TO

SPEAK OUT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO

TOLERATE THAT BECAUSE

WE'RE NFL.

AND WE BEAT OUR CHEST.

AND THE WHOLE THING IS

ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

IT MAKES ME SICK AT MY

STOMACH.

> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

I WAS IN CYPRUS, AND I MET

SOME YEARS AGO WITH

ARCHBISHOP MICARIUS, WHO

WAS THEN THE ARCHBISHOP OF

CYPRUS, AND THEY HAVE

NOTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT.

SO THIS CRAZY MAN IN EGYPT

HIJACKED A PLANE.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE IS

PART OF THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT

HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH

TERRORISM.

THE MAN SAID, I'VE DONE IT

FOR LOVE BECAUSE MY

GIRLFRIEND IS IN CYPRUS.

JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE.

John: SOME

FRIGHTENING MOMENTS FOR

THE PASSENGERS AND CREW,

BUT OFFICIALS SAY THE

MOTIVE WASN'T TERROR.

BUT THE HIJACKER DID FORCE

THE PLANE TO FLY TO

CYPRUS, WHERE HE WAS LATER

ARRESTED.

IT RAISED MORE QUESTIONS

ABOUT AIRLINE SECURITY IN

THE REGION.

HERE IS DALE HURD WITH

MORE.

Reporter: AN EGYPTIAN

MAN HIJACKED A PLANE BOUND

FROM ALEXANDRA TO CRYER CAIRO

TODAY.

HE THREATENED TO BLOW IT

UP AND FORCED IT TO LAND

ON THE ISLAND OF CYPRUS.

HE WANTED TO CONTACT A

LOCAL WOMAN AND DELIVER A

MAN TO HER.

THE AUTHORITIES CONVINCED

THE MAN TO RELEASE MOST OF

THE PASSENGERS.

BUT FOUR PASSENGERS AND

THE FLIGHT CREW WERE HELD

ABOARD BEFORE THE ARREST.

THE REALITY IS THAT WE

HAVE A HIJACKER ON BOARD A

PLANE.

WE'RE NOT SURE WHETHER

WHAT HE HAS IS A TRUE BOMB

OR A THREAT TO THE

AIRCRAFT, BUT WE ARE

DEALING WITH AS A REAL

THREAT.

Reporter: THE

HIJACKING HIGHLIGHTS THE

ISSUE OF SAFETY AT

EGYPTIAN AIRPORTS ONCE

AGAIN.

FIVE MONTHS AGO A RUSSIAN

AIRCRAFT CRASHED AFTER

TAKING OFF FROM AN

EGYPTIAN RED SEA RESORT.

ISIS LATER CLAIMED

RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE

BOMB THAT TOOK DOWN THAT

PLANE.

DALE HURD, CBN NEWS.

John: THANKS, DALE.

> A JEWISH LEADER IN

BELGIUM SAYS LAST WEEK'S

BOMBINGS IN BRUSSELS COULD

BE LINKED TO INCREASED

ANTI-SEMITIC ATTACKS.

HE SAYS THE JEWS ARE THE

CANARY IN THE COAL MINE.

HE POINTS TO VIOLENT

ATTACKS AGAINST THE JEWISH

COMMUNITY THERE SINCE

2000, SAYING IT IS A SIGN

OF RISING RADICAL ISLAM.

AND AS CHRIS MITCHELL

REPORTS, OTHERS AGREE THAT

THE ROOTS OF THE BELGIAN

DANGER BEGAN A LONG TIME

AGO.

ROLLER WHEN ISLAMIC Chris: WHEN ISLAMIC

GROUPS TARGETED BRUSSELS,

FOR SOME IT WAS A TOTAL

SURPRISE, BUT FOR OTHERS

IT WASN'T.

DANIEL SAYS THE ROOTS OF

BELGIUM'S PROBLEMS GO FAR

BEYOND MARCH 22nd.

THE ROOTS ARE AN

IDEOLOGY THAT ARE

SPREADING AMONG THE MUSLIM

COMMUNITIES.

WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THAT A

NEXUS EXISTS BETWEEN

IDEOLOGY FUNDED AND

SPONSORED, AND IT GOES

BACK TO THE 1960s, ALL

ALREADY, BY SAUDI ARABIA.

Chris: THIS MOSQUE IN

THE HEART OF BRUSSELS IS

ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW MONEY

FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND

OTHER GULF COUNTRIES IS

BEING USED TO SPREAD

MUHAMMADISM, A SPREAD OF

ISLAM WHERE ISIS GOT ITS

ROOTS.

SOME SEE THIS WAY OF

SPREADING THE MUSLIM FAITH

IS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS

THAT THE IDEOLOGY OF THE

ISLAMIC STATE.

THEY HAVE REALLY

MANAGED TO TURN AROUND A

ONCE MODERATE MUSLIM

COMMUNITY TO WHAT IS NOW A

HOTBED FOR RADICAL ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF ISLAM

IS MORE OF A POLITICAL

IDEOLOGY THAN A RELIGION

LIKE CHRISTIANITY OR

JUDAISM, YEAH, WE KIND OF

EMBRACED IT.

Reporter: WHEN

BELGIUM AND THE REST OF

EUROPE ENACTED ITS OPEN

DOOR POLICY, IT DIDN'T

REALIZE THE CONSEQUENCES.

YOU CAN BUILD YOUR

MOSQUES AND BUILD YOUR

QURAN AND WORSHIP YOUR GOD

HERE.

THAT WAS A MAJOR MISTAKE

BECAUSE SOONER OR LATER

SHAR'IA LAW WILL FOLLOW

SOONER OR LATER.

Chris: AND HE WARNS

THE PROBLEM RUNS VERY

DEEP.

WE HAVE CITIES IN

BELGIUM AND THE REST OF

EUROPE WHERE MUSLIMS ARE A

MAJORITY.

AND THESE CITIES AND AREAS

ARE REALLY ISLAMIZED.

IF YOU WALK THERE AS A

WOMAN, NOT DRESSED IN A

MUSLIM WAY, THEN THE

CHANCES ARE BIG THAT YOU

WILL GET HARASSED OR

ATTACKED OR WHATEVER.

OR IF YOU'RE A JEW WALKING

THERE, THEN THE CHANCES

ARE YOU WILL GET ATTACKED.

THAT IS ISLAMIZATION.

Chris: THE JEWS OF

BELGIUM ARE PARTICULARLY

CONCERNED.

YOU DON'T HAVE AN

EVENING WITH FRIENDS

WITHOUT SOMEONE RAISING

THE ISSUE: SHOULD WE STAY?

CAN WE STAY?

DON'T WE HAVE A

RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS OUR

CHILDREN?

IS THERE A FUTURE FOR THEM

IN THIS COUNTRY, WHERE OUR

PARENTS PUT DOWN THEIR

LINEAGE?

WE HAVE BEEN FACING THOSE

ATTACKS BECAUSE JEWS ARE

USUALLY THE FIRST TARGETS,

BUT NEVER THE ONLY TARGET.

Chris: THIS PERSON

SAYS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF

THESE VIOLENT ATTACKS AND

ISLAMIZATION IS GLOBAL

ISLAM.

IT IS TO CREATE A

CALIPHATE.

IN THEIR MIND, CLEARLY

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN

ISLAMIC RULE CERTAINLY IN

WHAT IS NOW THE MUSLIM

WORLD, BUT EVEN BEYOND.

AT THE END OF THE DAY,

THEY BELIEVE THAT BELGIUM

AND BRITAIN AND THE UNITED

STATES NEED TO BE PART OF

IT.

THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH IN

THEIR MIND.

Chris: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

BRUSSELS, BELGIUM.

John: PAT, WE'VE BEEN

REPORTING ON THE RISE OF

ANTI-SEMITISM THROUGHOUT

EUROPE.

Pat: THIS WHOLE THING

HAS GOT TO BE UNDERSTOOD.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHY DO

THEY HATE US?

WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THEM?

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING

TO THEM.

IT IS BASED INTO THEIR

RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

IT IS IN THE QURAN.

IT IS CLEARLY PASSAGE

AFTER PASSAGE THAT SAYS TO

THE FAITHFUL, YOU MUST BEE

BIEBELEAGUER THEM.

THE WHOLE THING IS IN

THEIR TEACHING.

YOU GO TO A RADICAL

MOSQUE, AND THEY TEACH

THAT SATURDAY AFTER

SATURDAY, SUNDAY AFTER

SUNDAY, WHATEVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY

BELIEVE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY

ARE TAUGHT THAT THEIR

DESTINY IS WORLD

DOMINATION.

SO IT IS NOT MERELY A

RELIGION.

IT IS ALSO A POLITICAL

SYSTEM BASED ON THE QURAN,

BASED ON THE TEACHINGS OF

MUHAMMAD, AND BASED ON

WHAT IS CALLED SHAR'IA

LAW.

THEY WANT A CALIPHATE.

THEY WANT TO DOMINATE THE

WORLD.

NOW, DON'T SAY WHAT HAVE

WE DONE TO OFFEND THEM?

WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING

TO OFFEND THEM.

THIS IS BUILT INTO THEIR

ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM.

SO WE WELCOME THEM AS THE

BELGIANS HAVE, INTO OUR

MIST, AND WHAT WE HAVE

DONE IS TAKE A COBRA INTO

OUR BOSOM, AND SOONER OR

LATER THE COBRA IS GOING

TO BITE YOU BECAUSE THAT

IS THEIR NATURE.

NOT WHAT DID YOU DO TO

MAKE THE COBRA MAD.

IT IS A COBRA.

THESE PEOPLE ARE INTENT ON

DESTROYING THE WEST.

LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S

WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH.

BUT THE GOVERNMENT,

APPARENTLY, HAS FAILED TO

RECOGNIZE THAT.

THE GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE

HAVE POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS.

THEY WILL NOT SAY IT.

THEY WILL NOT SPEAK ITS

NAME.

THEY WILL NOT TALK ABOUT

ISLAMIC TERROR.

THEY WON'T DO IT FOR FEAR

THEY MAY OFFEND SOMEBODY.

Terry: AND HERE

YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE FROM

BELGIUM WHO ARE SAYING, WE

MADE A MISTAKE.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS

TRUE, WE DON'T SEEM TO BE

WILLING TO LEARN FROM

THAT.

IS THERE A RECOURSE, ONCE

YOU HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO

HAPPEN?

Pat: WELL, WHAT

DONALD TRUMP SAID,

EVERYBODY WAS HORRIFIED

WITH.

BUT BASICALLY HE SAID,

KEEP THEM FROM COMING OVER

HERE.

AND IF EUROPE IS GOING TO

WELCOME THESE PEOPLE BY

THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND

THEY'VE GOT A HUGE

POPULATION -- AND AS THE

MAN SAID ON THAT PIECE,

THEY'RE WHOLE COMMUNITIES

NOW THAT ARE ISLAMIC.

AND WHEN THEY HAVE A

MAJORITY, THEY'RE GOING TO

TAKE CONTROL.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO

ENFORCE THEIR WAY.

UNTIL THEY HAVE A

MAJORITY, THEY'RE ASKING

FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

WHEN THEY HAVE A MAJORITY,

THEY'LL DOMINATE.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT

WOULD INVOLVE DRACONIAN

MEASURES THAT INVOLVE

DEPORTING MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE.

AND EUROPE NEEDS TO DO

SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR

THEIR ENTIRE COMMUNITY

WILL BE TORN APART.

John: PAT, THE F.B.I.

HAS SUCCESSFULLY HACKED

INTO THE IN

ENCRYPTED iPHONE OF ONE

OF THE SAN BERNARDINO

TERRORISTS.

THE F.B.I. WILL NOW DROP

THE LAWSUIT IT FILED TO

FORCE APPLE'S COOPERATION,

AND AGENTS ARE NOW

ANALYZING THE INFORMATION.

> CUBA'S FORMER

DICTATOR, FIDEL CASTRO,

HAS WRITTEN A HARSH

RESPONSE TO OBAMA VISIT

RECENT VISIT.

HE OPENLY CRITICIZES HIM

IN A SHARP-TONGUED LETTER.

HE DISMISSES HIS EFFORTS

TO LEAVE THE PAST BEHIND.

AND HE CRITICIZES OBAMA'S

MOVES TO INCREASE

BUSINESS, AND HE SAID,

QUOTE,"WE DON'T NEED THE

EMPIRE TO ACCOMPLISH

ANYTHING."

AND MANY SAY HE IS OUT OF

TOUCH WITH WHAT CUBANS

WANT.

Pat: HE IS OUT OF

TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING.

HE IS A SICK OLD MAN,

WHO'S TIME IS COME AND

GONE.

NEVERTHELESS, THAT IS THE

BACK OF THE HAND TO OUR

PRESIDENT, WHO WENT WITH

STARS IN HIS EYES.

HE THOUGHT, I'M GOING TO

OPEN UP CUBA.

I'M GOING TO BRING

GOODWILL TO OUR PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE RESPONSE HE

GOT.

NOBODY CAME OUT TO THE

MEET HIM AT THE AIRPORT.

NEITHER RAUL OR FIDEL CAME

TO MEET HIM.

THAT WAS A SLAP IN THE

FACE.

AND THIS IS A FURTHER SLAP

IN THE FACE, BUT OBAMA IS

DETERMINED THAT HE IS GONE

TO EMBRACE OUR COMMUNIST

BUDDIES.

TERRY?

Terry: WELL, COMING

UP, THE CRIME WAVE ACROSS

AMERICA AS POLICEMEN SAY

IT IS GETTING HARDER FOR

THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.

THEY REALIZE IF THEY DO

THEIR JOBS, THEY'RE GOING

TO BE VILIFIED IN THE

MEDIA.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

DO THEIR JOB AS VIGOROUSLY

AS BEFORE.

Terry: HEAR HOW THE

POLICE PLAN TO PROTECT

YOU, WHEN WE RETURN.

Pat: I WANT TO SAY AT

THE FIRST OF THIS, I AM

PRO-POLICE.

I'M FOR OUR ARMED FORCES.

I THINK THAT WE OWE THEM A

DEBT.

THESE ARE BRAVE MEN AND

WOMEN WHO ARE KEEPING US

SAFE AND REPRESSING EVIL.

I AM NOT FOR POLICE

BRUTALITY.

I'M NOT FOR PUTTING UP

FENCES.

I'M NOT FOR PEOPLE BEING

RAILROADED INTO JAIL.

I THINK SOME OF THAT IS

APPALLING.

BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS

THAT WE OWE THE POLICE A

DEBT OF GRATITUDE, AND

THEY NEED TO BE HONORED

AND RESPECTED.

WELL, THEY'RE NOT ANYMORE

IN SO MANY CITIES, AND

THEY CALL IT THE,

QUOTE,"FERGUSON EFFECT," A

GROWING ANIMOSITY AGAINST

THE POLICE IN THE

COMMUNISTS THEY HAVE BEEN

PLACED TO SERVE.

THEY ENDURE INTENSE

SCRUTINY.

AND THEY'RE FACING A SPIKE

IN VIOLENCE.

AND SOME SAY THE THIN BLUE

LINE IS BEING STRETCHED TO

THE BREAKING POINT.

Reporter: JOE COLLINS

IS A HUSBAND AND FATHER OF

TWO BOYS, WHO LIVES IN

BLACKSBURG, VIRGINIA.

HE IS A VETERAN OF BOTH

THE MARINES AND THE U.S.

ARMY.

OUR VEHICLE WAS HIT 11

TIMES.

AND OUR COMPANY WAS HIT

APPROXIMATELY 150 TIMES.

Reporter: WHEN JOE

RETURNED FROM IRAQ, HE

FELT LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT

WAS ONE PLACE WHERE HE

COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE GOT A

LOT OF VETERANS COMING

BACK.

THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE

MILITARY AND THEY'RE

LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WITH

THAT SAME TYPE

BROTHERHOOD.

Reporter: HE LOVE THE

14 YEARS HE SPENT AS A

COP, BUT HE SAYS POLICE

WORK IS BECOMING

INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS.

IT IS GETTING WORSE.

THAT MEANS IT IS GETTING

MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE MEN

IN BROWN AND BLUE AND

WHATEVER UNIFORM THEY

WEAR.

Reporter: POLICE

FORCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A

TOUGH JOB, AND NO ONE SAYS

COPS ARE PERSON.

BUT VIOLENCE AGAINST LAW

ENFORCEMENT IS RISING.

SO FAR IN 2016, OFFICER

DEATHS BY SHOOTING ARE UP

300% FROM THE PREVIOUS

YEAR, WITH A MARKED

INCREASE IN AMBUSH-STYLE

AFFECTS.

IN FEBRUARY, ASHLEY

GRENDON WAS MURDERED

RESPONDING TO A

DISTURBANCE IN VIRGINIA,

IT WAS HER FIRST DAY ON

THE JOB.

SHE WAS THE 10th OFFICER

TO DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY

IN FEBRUARY.

POLICE OFTEN HAVE TO MAKE

SPLIT-SECOND DECISIONS,

AND WITH CELL PHONES AND

SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS

EVERYWHERE, MANY COPS FEEL

THEIR NEXT CALL COULD END

UP AS A VIRAL VIDEO,

POSSIBLY ENDING THEIR

CAREER, AND EVEN THEIR

LIFE.

MIKE COWEN IS A S.W.A.T.

OFFICER IN MISSISSIPPI.

THERE IS CERTAINLY SOME

HESITATION, AND I'M A FIRM

BELIEVER THAT HESITATION

WILL GET YOU KILLED.

THERE IS A CERTAIN

WILLINGNESS TO LET THINGS

SLIDE A LITTLE MORE, AND

IT'S NOT WORTH TRYING TO

EXPLAIN YOURSELF BECAUSE

THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH

WHAT THE PRESS IS GOING TO

DO WITH IT.

Reporter: MICHAEL

WOOD IS AN AUTHOR AND

CONTRIBUTOR TO THE WEBSITE

"POLICE WON."

I THINK THERE IS A LACK

OF SUPPORT OF OFFICERS ARE

GETTING TODAY, COMPARED TO

WHAT THEIR GRANDFATHERS

HAD SEVERAL GENERATIONS

BEFORE.

IT HAS A CHILLING

EFFECT ON THESE OFFICERS

WHEN THEY REALIZE IF THEY

DO THEIR JOB, THEY'RE

GOING TO BE VILIFIED IN

THE MEDIA AND THEY'RE NOT

GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY

THEIR AGENCIES.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

SOME OF THESE BIG

NATIONWIDE EVENTS AND ALL

OF THE PRESS THEY'VE

GOTTEN, ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT SEEMS TO GET LOST ON

THE MEDIA IS THESE GUYS

ARE CRIMINALS AND THEY

WERE RESISTING LAW

ENFORCEMENT.

THE LARGE PERCENTAGE OF

LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS A

WHOLE ACROSS THE NATION,

HAS THAT VERY FEELING.

I THINK THEY'RE VERY

FRUSTRATED.

I THINK THE TRUST FROM

THEIR GOVERNMENT, THE

TRUST FROM THEIR OWN CHAIN

OF COMMAND -- THEY'VE GOT

TO WONDER IF IT IS THERE.

Reporter: WITH

VIOLENCE RISING, TACTICS

AND EQUIPMENT WHICH WERE

DEVELOPED BY THE MILITARY

ARE NOW BEING USED TO MAKE

POLICING SAFER IN THE FACE

OF RISING VIOLENCE.

IT IS A MOVE MANY HAVE

CRITICIZED, INCLUDING THE

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES.

President Obama: WE

HAVE SEEN HOW MILITARIZED

GEAR CAN SOMETIMES GIVE

PEOPLE THE FEELING LIKE

THERE IS A OCCUPYING

FORCE, AS OPPOSED TO A

FORCE THAT IS PART OF THE

COMMUNITY THAT IS

PROTECTING THEM AND

SERVING THEM, AND THEY CAN

AILNIATE PEOPLE.

Reporter: IT DOESN'T

NENECESSARY TELL THE WHOLE

STORY.

BATTLEFIELD TECHNOLOGISTS

DEVELOPED IN AFGHANISTAN

HAVE TRICKLED DOWN TO

POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS

THE COUNTRY.

AND THAT MEANS AN OFFICER

INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING HAS

A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF

SURVIVAL.

WHILE COPS ARE BEING

SUBJECTED TO INCREASING

RESTRICTIONS, THEY'RE ALSO

BEING ASKED TO CARRY OUT A

WIDER RANGE OF DUTIES THAN

IN THE PAST.

WE WANT HIM TO BE AN

ENFORCER OF THE LAW.

WE WANT HIM TO BE AN

ATTORNEY.

WE WANT HIM TO A MARRIAGE

COUNSELLOR.

WE WANT HIM TO BE A FATHER

FIGURE TO SOMEBODY.

AND WE WANT HIM TO BE ABLE

TO TELL DIRECTIONS AT THE

SAME TIME WE WANT THEM TO

BE ABLE TO SHOOT SOMEBODY

TO PREVENT THEM FROM

KILLING YOUR FAMILY.

OUR JOB IS TO ENFORCE

THE LAW.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE

LAWS, VOTE IN SOMEBODY

DIFFERENT AND DO IT THAT

WAY.

LET THE OFFICERS DO

THEIR JOB, THAT PROVIDE

YOU THE SECURITY IN YOUR

HOME AT MIGHT.

Reporter: CHUCK

HOLTON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: AN EXCELLENT

PIECE, CHUCK.

YOU SEE THAT THING IN

FERGUSON.

HERE YOU HAVE A GREAT BIG,

OVER AGED, OR OVER-SIZED

TEENAGER, WHO IS HOPPED UP

ON SOME KIND OF STIMULANT.

AND HE GOES INTO A

CONVENIENCE STORE AND

STARTS ROBBING IT.

THEN HE HITS THE CLERK WHO

TRIES TO STOP HIM, AND

GOES WALKING DOWN THE

CENTER OF THE ROAD,

INTERFERING WITH TRAFFIC.

WHEN A POLICE OFFICER

TRIES TO APPREHEND HIM AND

STOP HIM FROM THAT KIND OF

CONDUCT, THIS BIG GUY IN

FERGUSON TRIES TO GET THE

COP'S GUN AWAY FROM HIM.

AND THEY END UP IN A

WRESTLING MATCH.

AND AT SOME POINT ALONG

THE WAY, THE COP SHOOTS

THIS SO-CALLED GIANT OF A

MAN.

WELL, HE'S BEEN BREAKING

THE LAW.

HE'S BEEN TERRORIZING

PEOPLE.

HE HAS BEEN ROBBING A

CONVENIENCE STORE.

AND THE COP SHOULD HAVE

DONE SOMETHING.

BUT WHAT COMES ON?

YOU HAVE PEOPLE FLYING IN

FROM NEW YORK CITY, A FAL

FALLYNX OF THESE

PROFESSIONAL AGITATORS,

AND THEY STIR UP PROBLEMS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE

GREAT SIGNS, "BLACK LIVES

MATTER."

OF COURSE THEY MATTER.

OF COURSE THEY MATTER.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY AT THE

EXPENSE OF KILLING A

POLICEMAN BY SOMEBODY WHO

IS BREAKING THE LAW.

AND THAT'S WHAT FERGUSON

WAS ALL ABOUT, AND IT WAS

NO MORE THAN THAT.

AND AFTER A CAREFUL GRAND

JURY INVESTIGATION, THE

POLICEMAN WAS CLEARED OF

ALL CHARGES BECAUSE THEY

SAID WHAT HE DID WAS

JUSTIFIABLE.

THAT HAD STARTED A

MOVEMENT ALL ACROSS THE

COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE

RIOTING IN THE STREETS.

AND IT'S THE US AGAINST

THEM MENTALITY.

WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.

WE'VE GOT TO LOVE EACH

OTHER.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE

THINGS IS TO PUT THE

POLICE ON FOOT, ON FOOT

PATROLS, MAYBE RIDING

BICYCLES.

NOT RIDING AROUND IN SQUAD

CARS.

AND GETTING UP CLOSE AND

PERSONAL WITH THE PEOPLE

THAT THEY DEAL WITH, SO

THEY CAN GET TO BE FRIENDS

AND NOT ENEMIES.

BUT AS A NATION, WE MUST

RECOGNIZE WHAT ROMANS

SAID, THAT HE WHO BEARS

THE SWORD BEARS IT NOT IN

VAIN.

HE IS A MINISTER OF GOD.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE

SAYS.

HE IS A MINISTER OF GOD,

TO BRING ABOUT

RIGHTEOUSNESS AND TO

RESTRAIN EVIL.

THAT'S WHAT HE IS THERE

FOR.

SO LET'S RESPECT THEM AND

HELP THEM.

AND IF THEY MISBEHAVE,

LET'S BRING THEM TO

JUSTICE.

BUT UNTIL THEY DO, LET'S

NOT RIOT AGAINST THEM.

TERRY?

Terry: WELL, COMING

UP, GOD GOES ON TRIAL.

AND THE VERDICT IS ONE

YOU'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO SEE

IN THE THEATERS.

WE'LL TAKE YOU INSIDE THE

NEW MOVIE "GOD'S NOT DEAD

2," WHEN WE COME BACK.

Terry: WHEN "GOD'S

NOT DEAD," WAS RELEASED IN

2014, IT BECAME AN INSTANT

BLOCKBUSTER.

IT TOLD THE STORY OF A

STUDENT WHO STOOD UP TO

HIS AGNOSTIC TEACHERS, AND

NOW IN THE SEQUEL, THE

TEACHER IS THE HERO.

TAKE A LOOK.

I HATE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE

YOUR CLIENT STAND FOR.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVE

ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT GOD

IS DEAD.

I GAVE AN HONEST ANSWER

TO A STUDENT'S QUESTION.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE AFRAID

TO SAY THE NAME JESUS.

THEY WANT TO MAKE AN

EXAMPLE OF YOU.

I DON'T LIKE TO LOSE.

I WOULD RATHER STAND

WITH GOD AND BE JUDGED BY

THE WORLD THAN STAND WITH

THE WORLD AND BE JUDGED BY

GOD.

GOD BLESS YOU.

CAREFUL, OR YOU MIGHT

END UP ON TRIAL.

*

Terry: WITH US NOW IS

DAVID A.R. WHITE, AND HE

IS A PRODUCER FOR "GOD'S

NOT DEAD," AND HE REPRISES

THE ROLE OF REVEREND

DAVID.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING

ME.

Terry: WERE YOU

SURPRISED AS THE SUCCESS

OF THE FIRST FILM?

YES.

I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY

KNOWS THAT.

Terry: YOU ROLE THE

DICE?

EXACTLY.

AND YOU PRAY.

AND WE DID A LOT OF

PRESCREENING IN THE

CHURCHES AND GRASSROOTS

MARKETING, AND EVERYBODY

GOT BEHIND IT.

IT IS, BY FAR, THE BIGGEST

SPAN OF GENERATIONS, FROM

YOUNG KIDS TO OLDER FOLKS,

THAT I'VE EVER DONE FOR A

MOVIE.

Terry: YEAH.

THE TEACHER WINDS UP IN

COURT, AND THAT'S A

SWITCH.

YUP.

Terry: HOW DID THAT

WHOLE CONCEPT COME TO BE?

THE THEMES OF THEM --

WE THOUGHT, IF WE GET A

CHANCE TO DO THREE OF

THESE, THE FIRST IS ABOUT

THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.

THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT

JESUS CHRIST AND WHO IS

HE.

AND THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE

TALKING ABOUT THE INSPIRED

WORD OF GOD.

SO WE ALWAYS KIND OF KNEW

THAT WAS OUR BLUEPRINT

GOING INTO IT.

AND IN THE FIRST ONE, OF

COURSE, WE HAVE A MALE

LEAD.

AND WE WANTED TO FLIP IT

AND SHOW IT FROM MORE OF A

TEACHER'S PROSPECTIVE.

Terry: LET'S TALK

ABOUT THE FEMALE ROLE.

IT IS SABRINA, THE

TEENAGED WITCH.

THAT'S A LOT OF IRONY

IN THAT.

BUT MELISSA HAS COME OUT

MORE AND MORE ABOUT HER

FAITH.

AND SHE WAS PASSIONATE

ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE

SCWIPT.

SCWIPT.

SCRIPT.

AND WE ALWAYS PRAY, WHO IS

GOING TO BE IN THESE

FILMS?

Terry: I ALWAYS

WONDERED, HOW DO THEY

DECIDE WHO THE PERSON IS

WHO IS GOING TO PLAY THIS

ROLE?

HOW MUCH EFFORT AND JOINT

DISCUSSION GOES INTO THAT?

WE HAVE GREAT CASTING

DIRECTORS.

BILLY AND ANDY, AND WE

THANK THEM.

WE PRAY FIRST AND FOREMOST

TO SEE WHO THE LORD BRINGS

IN AND WHO HE WANTS IN

THESE FILMS.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE END UP

REJUVENATING THEIR WALK

WITH THE LORD, AND SOME

BECOME BELIEVERS WHO HAD

NEVER KNOWN CHRIST BEFORE.

YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THE

LORD WILL WORK IN IT.

Terry: DAVID, I'M

SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN

BOTH THE CHRISTIAN

COMMUNITY AND THE

NON-FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY

WHO SAY THESE FILMS ARE

PREACHING TO THE CHOIR,

YOU'RE JUST CONFIRMING TO

PEOPLE OF FAITH A

LIKE-MINDEDNESS.

SURE.

Terry: BUT YOU'RE

SHOWING THERE ARE PEOPLE

WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN

PEOPLE OF FAITH WHO ARE

MADE TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

THE STORIES THAT COME

IN, FROM THE FIRST ONE,

HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE.

THERE WAS A GIRL WHO

TWEETED ME, AND SHE WAS

15, I THINK, AND SHE HAD

BEEN CUTTING HERSELF.

AND SHE HAD THAT

ADDICTION, AND SHE

COULDN'T GET FREE FROM IT.

AND SAID SHE WHEN SHE WENT

TO THE FIRST ONE, SHE FELT

GOD'S PRESENCE AND LOVE

FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND

SHE FELT SHE WOULD BE ABLE

TO OVERCOME THAT.

AND FROM STORIES LIKE THAT

TO ATHEISTS WHO THEN

STARTED OPENING THE BIBLE.

WE MAKE THE FILMS, FIRST

AND FOREMOST, TO ENCOURAGE

PEOPLE IN THEIR FAITH.

I THINK THAT'S WHY THE

FIRST ONE WAS SO

SUCCESSFUL.

BECAUSE CHRISTIANS DON'T

USUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN

THE THEATERS THAT SAY

BELIEVE AND BE INSPIRED IN

YOUR FAITH.

AND IT OPENS UP

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT

RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES AND

FREEDOMS.

THERE IS A LINE IN THE

MOVIE ABOUT THE SILENT

MAJORITY.

WE SHOULD JUST BE THE

SILENT MAJORITY.

I THINK THAT IS THE

OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE SHOULD

BE DOING.

WE NEED TO SPEAK OUT MORE.

Terry: SO WHEN

SOMEONE GOES TO SEE THIS

FILM, BECAUSE IT IS BEING

RELEASED ON FRIDAY,

APRIL 1st -- WHEN THEY

GO TO SEE IT, WHAT DO YOU

WANT THE TAKE ANYWHER-AWAY TO BE?

ALL OF THAT.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS

THAT GOD HAS A SPECIFIC

PURPOSE AND A PLAN FOR

YOUR LIFE.

AND HE IS REAL.

Terry: YEAH.

AND THERE IS HOPE IN

HIM.

Terry: SO

APRIL 1st.

APRIL 1st.

Terry: DID YOU PLAN

THAT THIS FILM WOULD BE

RELEASED ON THAT

PARTICULAR DAY?

TALK ABOUT THE IRONY OF

THAT.

THE FIRST ONE THEY

ACTUALLY SHOWED AT AN

ATHEIST CONVENTION LATER

ON.

AND IT IS HOWEVER GOD USES

IT.

IT IS NOT UP TO US.

WE MAKE THE BEST MOVIE WE

CAN DO, BUT ULTIMATELY IT

IS HIS SPIRIT THAT PUSHES

IT OUT.

THIS TIME IT COMES OUT ON

THE NATIONAL ATHEIST

HOLIDAY, APRIL FOOL'S

DAY --

Terry: I DIDN'T KNOW

THERE WAS A NATIONAL

ATHEIST HOLIDAY?

I DIDN'T EITHER.

BUT IT COMES OUT ON THAT

DAY TO SAY THANK YOU AND

TO SPEAK THE TRUTH AND

SHINE A LIGHT IN THE DARK

WORLD.

Terry: WHAT YOU

MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT

THE VISION OF THE THREE,

DOES THAT MEAN THE THIRD

ONE IS IN THE WORKS?

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU

SOMETHING, TERRY.

IF YOU SIT THROUGH THE

CREDITS, THERE IS A LITTLE

EASTER EGG AT THE END --

Terry: I ALWAYS SIT

THROUGH THE CREDITS.

ON THIS ONE IT IS WORTH

SITTING THROUGH.

THERE IS A RELEASE DRAG

THAT SETS IT UP.

Terry: HERE YOU ARE

SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN

INVOLVED IN A MOVIE THAT

HAS MEAT AND A MESSAGE TO

IT.

DON'T YOU THINK THAT ALL

PEOPLE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO

PRPROFESS NOT TO BE, HAVE A

HUNGER INSIDE OF THEM TO

KNOW MORE, TO UNDERSTAND

MORE?

MOVIES LIKE THIS, I THINK

CAUSE YOU TO THINK.

ABSOLUTELY.

THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT

GOING TO A MOVIE THEATER

IS THAT ONE ALLOWS THAT

MOVIE TO TAKE THEM TO

PLACES THAT THEY WOULD NOT

EVEN ALLOW THEIR BEST

FRIEND TO TAKE THEM.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT

HAPPENS WHEN THE LIGHT

GOES DOWN AND THAT STORY

COMES UP.

IT IS YOU IDENTIFYING WITH

THOSE CHARACTERS.

I THINK IT HAS BEEN

NEEDING -- WE'VE BEEN

PLAYING IN THE CINEMA FOR

A WHILE, BUT, YOU KNOW,

TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS

CALLED "THE YEAR OF THE

BIBLE," AND IT IS EXCITING

TO SEE THESE TYPE OF

MOVIES GOING OUT MORE AND

MORE, AND TRUTH AND HOPE

BEING PROCLAIMED THROUGH

THE CINEMA.

Terry: AMEN.

AND YOU'RE A BIG PART OF

THAT.

AND WE SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Terry: IT IS ALWAYS A

PLEASURE AS A BELIEVER TO

SEE SOMETHING WONDERFUL ON

THE SCREEN.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE "GOD'S

NOT DEAD 2," YOUR WAIT IS

ALMOST OVER.

CELEBRATE NATIONAL ATHEIST

DAY BY ATTENDING THE

MOVIE.

Terry: I'LL WEAR THIS

TO THE MOVIE.

AND CHECK OUT THE

WEBSITE AND GET YOUR

CHURCH INVOLVED.

Terry: AND START IT

ON APRIL 1st.

IT IS RATED P.G.

DAVID, THANK YOU FOR BEING

WITH US, AND THANK FOR

WHAT YOU DO.

> IN THE SPEARED OF

"GOD'S NOT DEAD," THE

SPIRIT OF A KNOW-IT-ALL

ATHEIST WHO CHANGED HER

BELIEFS BECAUSE OF A

CHILDREN'S BOOK.

GOD USES ALL THINGS.

WE'LL TELL YOU LATER WHAT

HAPPENED.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE

700 CLUB."

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TO GIVE ANESTHESIA TO

WOMEN HAVE ABORTIONS AT 20

WEEKS OR LATER.

IT'S THE FIRST STATE IN

THE COUNTRY TO PASS THIS

LAW.

THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT

UNBORN BABIES FROM FEELING

PAIN BECAUSE SUPPORTERS

SAY EVIDENCE SHOWS BABIES

IN THE WOMB SUFFER PAIN,

JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

THE BILL INCLUDES AN

EXEMPTION IN CASES WHERE

THE ANESTHESIA COULD HURT

THE MOTHER.

OTHER STATES HAVE TRIED TO

ENACT SIMILAR LAWS, BUT

NONE HAVE SUCCEED.

> MORE THAN 35,000 KIDS

AND THEIR PARENTS VISITED

THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE

ANNUAL EASTER EGG ROLL.

PRESIDENT OBAMA CONTINUED

READING THE BOOK "WHERE

THE WILD THINGS ARE."

President Obama: AND

WHEN HE CAME TO THE PLACE

WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE,

THEY ROARED THEIR TERRIBLE

ROAR.

LET'S HEAR A ROAR!

Wendy: I LOVE THAT

BASKETBALL.

BOOK.

THE PRESIDENT JOINED SOME

KIDS PLAYING ONE OF HIS

FAVORITE GAMES,

BASKETBALL.

AND HE PLAYED A LITTLE

DOUBLES "10NEWS. TENNIS.

EACH ADMINISTRATION PUTS

THEIR STAMP ON THE EVENT,

AND THIS YEAR AS PART OF

HER "LET'S MOVE"

INITIATIVE, MICHELLE OBAMA

ADDED A FUN RUN AS WELL.

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB" RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELCOME BACK.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

WE HAVE GREAT THINGS

COMING UP.

ONE OF THEM IS SOMEBODY

NAMED JORDAN MONJI.

SHE WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOLER,

AND AS SUCH, SHE SAID, I

WANT TO GET THE WORDS

"UNDER GOD" TAKEN OUT OF

THE "PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE".

SHE WAS A MILITANT ATHEIST

WHEN SHE WAS STILL A KID.

SHE GOT A COUPLE OF DEATH

THREATS BECAUSE OF IT.

BUT JORDAN WAS SMART AND

EVERYBODY KNEW IT.

AS AN ATHEIST, SHE USED

HER VERY FERTILE BRAIN TO

ATTACK CHRISTIANITY.

AND THEN ONE DAY, WHILE IN

COLLEGE, JORDAN REALIZED

AS SMART AS SHE WAS, SHE

HAD A LOT TO LEARN.

ONE OF THE HARDEST

THINGS AS AN ATHEIST IS

THAT ALL OF THESE VALUES,

WHY AM I IMPORTANT, WHY

SHOULD PEOPLE CARE ABOUT

ME -- A LOT OF THOSE

THINGS COME FROM OUR OWN

PERFORMANCE.

Reporter: AS A

DAUGHTER OF TWO ATHEISTS,

JORDAN MONJI FELT SHE HAD

A LOT TO PROVE.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

MY FAMILY IS VERY

COMPETITIVE.

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A

HIGH PRIORITY ON BEING THE

BEST.

SO MUCH OF MY IDENTITY WAS

FOUNDED ON I'M THE

SMARTEST ONE IN THE ROOM.

I'M NOT THE PRETTIEST OR

THE MOST ATHLETIC, BUT I'M

THE SMARTEST.

Reporter: AT 11 YEARS

OLD, JORDAN DECIDED THERE

WAS NO GOD AND BEGAN

OPENLY CHALLENGING HER

CHRISTIAN CLASSMATES.

I WOULD BRING THE BIBLE

TO SCHOOL AND SAY, TELL ME

WHY THIS ISN'T A

CONTRADICTION, AND THEY

COULDN'T DO IT.

Reporter: SHE

CONSIDERED HERSELF A GOOD

PERSON, BUT THAT RAISED A

QUESTION SHE COULDN'T

ANSWER: WHERE DID MORALITY

COME FROM IF NOT FROM GOD?

WHY IS SOMETHING RIGHT

OR WRONG?

I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GOD,

SO WHERE ARE THESE THINGS

COMING FROM.

I HAD GONE AND ASKED ALL

OF THESE PEOPLE, AND

NOBODY COULD ANSWER.

I SAID, I'M GOING TO WAIT

UNTIL COLLEGE TO EXPLORE

THOSE QUESTIONS, WHEN I

CAN GET INTO A GOOD

SCHOOL.

THEY WORKED OUT PRETTY

WELL BECAUSE I GOT INTO

HARVARD.

Reporter: THERE SHE

DISCOVERED SHE WAS NO

LONGER AT THE TOP OF THE

CLASS.

NOW BEING SURROUNDED BY

PEOPLE I'M NO LONGER THE

SMARTEST PERSON IN THE

ROOM 90% OF THE TIME, IT

MAKES YOU WONDER WHO

REALLY AM I AND WHAT MAKES

ME VALUABLE?

Reporter: AS JORDAN

BEGAN TO QUESTION HER

WORTH, SHE BECAME FRIENDS

WITH JOSEPH PORTER, A

CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE WHO

GAVE HER EVEN MORE

QUESTIONS TO THINK ABOUT.

HE REALLY STARTED

PRESSING ME, WHERE DOES

YOUR MORALITY COME FROM?

YOU'RE SAYING IT EMERGES

FROM NOWHERE?

I STARTED SEEING, MAYBE

THERE ARE THESE CRACKS IN

MY OWN ELEC INT INTELLECTUAL

FRAMEWORK.

Reporter: SHE WAS

ASSIGNED A SHORT READING

ASSIGNMENT, AN ESSAY BY

C.S. LEWIS.

HE SAYS GOD IS

GOODNESS.

GOD IS THE GOOD.

AND OUR LIVES ARE GOOD

WHEN WE STRIVE TO IMITATE

GOD.

IT WAS MIND-BLOWING.

Reporter: JORDAN

WANTED TO EXPLORE THIS

IDEA FURTHER, SO SHE

DECIDED TO READ THE BIBLE

AGAIN.

THIS TIME SHE WOULD TRY TO

UNDERSTAND IT, NOT

CRITIQUE IT.

AND WHEN SHE READ JESUS'

SERMON ON THE MOUNT, SHE

WAS STRUCK BY WHAT HE SAID

ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE

GOOD.

AS AN ATHEIST, I WAS

LIVING LIFE BETTER,

ACCORDING TO A CHRISTIAN

ETHIC, THAN A LOT OF

CHRISTIANS WERE.

I WASN'T SLEEPING AROUND.

I WASN'T DOING DRUGS.

I WASN'T DRINKING.

I WAS A GOOD STUDENT.

SO IT WAS EASY FOR ME TO

THINK OF MYSELF AS A GOOD

PERSON.

IT WAS ONLY WHEN I WENT

BACK TO THE WORDS OF JESUS

THAT I SAW THAT I WAS AN

ANGRY PERSON.

YOU ARE VERY ARROGANT.

YOU THINK TOO HIGHLY OF

YOURSELF.

BEING THOSE THINGS MADE ME

REALIZE I WASN'T REALLY A

GOOD PERSON.

MAYBE I DON'T KNOW THE

BEST WAY TO RUN MY LIFE.

Reporter: JORDAN KEPT

READING UNTIL SHE CAME TO

JOHN 19.

I HAD FINALLY MADE IT

TO THE CRUCIFIXION SCENE.

AND AS I WAS READING IT, I

HAD THIS MOMENT WHERE I

JUST SAID, NO, NO.

Reporter: FOR YEARS,

SHE THOUGHT THE LION, THE

WITCH, AND THE WARDROBE

WAS JUST A STORY.

BUT NOW SHE REALIZED HER

FAVORITE WORK OF NARNIA

WAS NORTHERN JUST FICTION.

AND SHE WAS JUST LIKE

EDMUND, A ARROGANT BECAUSE

REDEEMED.

IT CLICKED, I AM

EDMUND, AND JESUS IS ASH

ASHLAND, AND HE IS DYING

FOR MY FAITH.

SEEING IT NOW IN THE STORY

WAS A TOTALLY RADICAL NEW

WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.

AND REALIZING MY OWN SIN

AND MY OWN NEED OF HEALING

FROM THAT SIN, MADE ALL OF

THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW I

READ IT.

REALIZING IN THAT MOMENT

THAT YOUR EDMUND IS TO

REALIZE I'M POWERLESS.

I NEED HELP.

I RECOGNIZED MY OWN

INCURABLE NEED FOR

FORGIVENESS THAT COULD

ONLY COME FROM JESUS

CHRIST.

Reporter: STILL, THAT

WASN'T ENOUGH TO BREAK

JORDAN'S DEEPLY-ROOTED

NEED FOR INTELLECTUAL

EVIDENCE OF GOD.

SO SHE POURED OVER EVERY

SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENT, AND

ALL OF THE EVIDENCE

POINTED HER BACK TO JESUS

CHRIST.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

HELPED ME THE MOST TO

ELIMINATE MY PRIDE WAS

HAVING TO ADMIT THAT I HAD

BEEN WRONG ALL OF THOSE

YEARS AS AN ATHEIST.

Reporter: ULTIMATELY,

IT CAME DOWN TO A

PROFOUND, YET SIMPLE,

TRUTH.

AS I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT

LOVE REALLY WAS, AND I

COULD SEE HOW JESUS DIED

ON THE CROSS WAS A PERFECT

EMBODIMENT OF THAT.

GOD IS LOVE AND GOD IS

TRUTH, SO GOD IS GOODNESS.

IT WAS AT THAT POINT WHEN

I REALIZED, IF I WANT TO

TRY THIS CHRISTIANITY

BUSINESS, I CAN'T DO IT

HALF HEARTEDLY.

I HAVE TO BE FULLY

COMMITTED.

Reporter: IN

APRIL 2009, JORDAN GAVE

HER LIFE TO JESUS.

SINCE THEN SHE HAS GROWN

EVEN STRONGER IN HER

FAITH.

SHE GRADUATED FROM HARVARD

IN 2012, RECENTLY MARRIED,

AND IS PURSUING A

DOCTORATE DEGREE AT FULLER

SEMINARY SCHOOL.

WHAT IS MAN THAT GOD IS

MINDFUL OF HIM?

WHAT AM I THAT I HAVE

VALUE?

SO LONG MY VALUE HAD COME

FROM THE THINGS THAT I HAD

DONE.

SO MOVING TO A FRAMEWORK

INSTEAD THAT THE REASON I

KNEW I WAS VALUABLE IS

BECAUSE CHRIST HAD DIED

FOR ME, THAT HE LOVES ME

REGARDLESS OF WHAT I WOULD

EVER DO, IT IS IMMENSELY

FREEING.

Pat: IT'S AMAZING HOW

MANY PATHS THERE ARE TO

FIND THE LORD.

I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL,

AS I RECALL, AND BEGAN

READING PLATO AND FOUND A

DISCUSSION OF TRUTH AND

DECENCY AND ALL OF THE

THINGS THAT WERE THERE.

THIS WAS NOT SOME

RELIGIOUS TEXT.

IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS A

PHILOSOPHER, WHO HAD, YOU

KNOW, DEALT WITH THE

PROBLEMS OF MANKIND AND

COME UP WITH SOME ANSWERS,

WHICH WERE PROVOKING, AND

IT STARTED ME THINKING

ABOUT WHO I WAS AND WHERE

I WAS.

AND JORDAN IS THE SAME

WAY.

SHE WAS INTELLECTUAL.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE

SAYS, THOUGH, WISDOM IS

WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AS

INTELLECTUAL.

AND THE TERM FOR THE

PEOPLE WHO STUDY

INTELLECTUAL THINGS IS

PHILOSOPHY, LOVERS OF

WISDOM.

WISDOM IS SOFIA, AND FILOS

IS THE LOVER OF WISDOM.

AND SO PEOPLE SPEND A LOT

OF TIME ARGUING ON POINTS,

DISCUSSING COMPARATIVE

RELIGION, AND GO THROUGH

ALL OF THAT STUFF.

BUT THE APOSTLE PAUL GOT

TO CORINTH, AND HE WAS

TRAINED IN ALL OF THESE

THINGS.

BUT HE SAYS, WHEN I WAS

WITH YOU, I HAD ONLY ONE

THOUGHT IN MIND.

AND THAT WAS JESUS CHRIST

AND HIM CRUCIFIED.

I WASN'T GOING TO TALK TO

YOU ABOUT THE REASON.

HE PREACHED A SERMON ON

MARS HILL THAT WAS

BRILLIANT, BUT IT DIDN'T

GET ANYBODY SAVED.

BECAUSE HE TOLD HEM ABOUT HIM ABOUT

AN UNSEEN GOD, THE ONE YOU

CAN'T SEE, AND I'M GOING

TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIM AND

SO FORTH.

A BRILLIANT SERMON.

BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT

TOUCHED PEOPLE'S HEARTS.

BUT WHAT DID TOUCH

PEOPLE'S HEARTS IS THE

SIMPLE TRUTH OF THE CROSS.

YOU ARE A SINNER.

YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST

THE CREATOR THAT MADE YOU.

AND JESUS CHRIST WAS SENT

BY THE CREATOR TO DIE FOR

YOU.

AND HE PAID THE PRICE FOR

YOUR SIN.

IF YOU RECEIVED HIM, YOU

WILL BE FORGIVEN AND

YOU'RE RESTORED TO

FELLOWSHIP WITH YOUR

CREATOR.

THAT'S THE SIMPLE GOSPEL.

AND PAUL SAID, I'M NOT

ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF

JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE IT IS

THE POWER OF GOD FOR

SALVATION TO ALL THOSE WHO

BELIEVE.

SO YOU'VE GOT A STORY OF

JORDAN.

AND SHE WENT THROUGH

INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS AND

SHE FOUND THE LORD.

YOU DON'T NEED TO WADE

THROUGH ALL OF THAT STUFF.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

RECOGNIZE THAT JESUS

CHRIST DIED FOR YOU.

AND THE FACT THAT HE

DECIDDIEDINDICATED -- HE NEEDED TO

DIE BECAUSE YOU NEEDED A

SAVIOR.

OTHERWISE YOU WOULD GO TO

HELL AND YOU'D BE LOST

FROM GOD.

DO YOU WANT THAT?

IF YOU WANT THAT, ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO IS PRAY WITH ME

RIGHT NOW AND HE'LL ANSWER

YOUR PRAYER.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAD YOU

IN PRAYER.

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU

A WHOLE BUNCH OF FANCY

ARGUMENTS.

I COULD GIVE YOU SOME OF

THEM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO

WASTE YOUR TIME OR MINE.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU WHAT IS

IMPORTANT.

AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS

THAT YOU NEED A SAVIOR.

IF YOU WANT HIM, PRAY WITH

ME.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS, I COME BEFORE YOU

AS A SINNER.

I HAVEN'T LIVED MY LIFE

FOR YOU.

I KNOW IT AND YOU KNOW IT.

LORD, I KNOW YOU DIED FOR

SINNERS.

AND YOU DIED FOR ME.

AND SO, LORD JESUS, RIGHT

NOW I TURN AWAY FROM SIN

AND I GIVE YOU MY LIFE.

RIGHT NOW, LORD, I TAKE

YOU AS MY SAVIOR.

AND I SURRENDER TO YOU.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I

THANK YOU, THAT I AM YOURS

AND YOU ARE MINE.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

NOW, IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME

JUST THEN, I WANT YOU TO

DO SOMETHING.

I WANT YOU TO GO TO YOUR

TELEPHONE.

I WANT YOU TO CALL IN.

AND I WANT YOU TO SAY, I

PRAYED WITH PAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP

YOU.

THIS IS 73 MINUTES OF A

C.D.

YOU PLUG IT INTO YOUR

COMPACT DISC PLAYER, AND

IT WILL TELL YOU A WHOLE

LOT OF THINGS THAT JUST

HAPPENED TO YOU.

IT IS MORE THAN I'VE GOT

TIME FOR RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN HAVE THAT, AND

I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE,

IF YOU JUST CALL IN RIGHT

NOW AND SAY, I JUST PRAYED

WITH PAT; GIVE ME "A NEW

DAY."

THIS IS FREE, NO CHARGE.

1-800-759-0700.

AND THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN

ARE REJOICING BECAUSE OF

THE DECISION YOU JUST MADE

TODAY.

TERRY?

Terry: WELL, UP NEXT,

TIME TO "BRING IT ON" WITH

YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

ONE VIEWER WRITES, "I'M A

CHRISTIAN BUT I LOOKED AT

PORN MANY TIMES.

I FEEL LIKE A HYPOCRITE.

WHAT CAN I DO?"

WE'VE GOT YOUR QUESTIONS

AND PAT HAS SOME ANSWERS,

SO DON'T GO AWAY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND

WHAT LOVE WAS.

Terry: WE WANT TO

TAKE SOME TIME TO ANSWER

THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS YOU

SENT INMENT PAT, THIS

FIRST ONE IS FROM A VIEWER

WHO SAYS, "DEAR PAT, I

CONSIDER MYSELF A GREAT

LEADER AND I PRACTICE MY

FAITH ALL OF THE TIME.

BUT I FEEL LIKE A

HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I'VE

BACK SLID INTO PORNOGRAPHY

NUMEROUS TIMES.

HOW CAN I RECOVER?

WHAT SHOULD I DO TO GET

RID OF HIS DAMAGING

ADDICTION.

I FEEL LIKE A FALLEN

LEADER.

PLEASE HELP."

Pat: I DON'T KNOW

WHAT YOU'RE A LEADER OF,

BUT THIS WHOLE MATTER OF

PORN -- YOU SAY I HAVE

BEEN ADDICTED TO EATING

AND I HAD A PIECE OF

CHOCOLATE CAKE, AND THEN A

MONTH LATER I HAD ANOTHER

PIECE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE

AND I FEEL GUILTY.

WELL, THAT'S AN APPETITE.

SEX IS AN APPETITE.

AND SO THE PORN PEOPLE

HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY

CAN TO STIMULATE THAT

APPETITE, TO MAKE IT LOOK

APPEALING, JUST LIKE THE

PEOPLE WHO BAKE THE

CHOCOLATE CAKE DID

EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO

MAKE IT LOOK DELICIOUS AND

YOU WANT IT.

SO YOU HAVE SUCCUMB TO A

TEMPTATION.

HOW DO YOU GET FREE OF IT?

JOB SAID, I HAVE MADE A

COVENANT WITH THINE EYES

NOT TO LOOK UPON A MAID.

MEN ARE STIMULATED

VISUALLY.

IF YOU LOOK -- YOU'VE GOT

MAGAZINES AND PICTURES AND

INTERNET -- YOU'VE GOT ALL

OF THIS STUFF.

IT'S ALL THERE.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE A

COVENANT TO SAY, I'M NOT

GOING TO WATCH IT.

IF YOU DO, WHAT YOU NEED

TO DO IS ASK GOD'S

FORGIVENESS.

HE WILL FORGIVE YOU

BECAUSE HE UNDERSTANDS YOU

ARE MADE OUT OF DUST.

AND YOU HAVE APPETITES.

HE PUT THE APPETITES

THERE.

BUT THEY ARE TO BE USED

NORMALLY.

LIKE EATING IS NORMAL.

QUENCHING THIRST IS

NORMAL.

SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN

MARRIAGE IS NORMAL.

SO HE HAS PUT THAT IN

THERE.

SO THE MISUSE OF IT IS

SOMETHING WE FEEL GUILTY

ABOUT.

BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT

WHEN WE GO TO HEAVEN AND

HAVE A NEW BODY, WE WON'T

BE PLAGUED WITH GLUTTONY

OR SEXUAL ADDICTION OR ANY

OF THAT STUFF.

IT WILL ALL BE GONE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO

CONCENTRATE ON IS THE WAY

WE LIVE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

Terry: THIS IS ANNA

WHO SAYS, "HOW IS IT

THUNDERSTORTHATYOUR PRAYERS FOR HEALING

IS RESPONDED TO SO

RAPIDLY.

I BELIEVE GOD CAN DO

ANYTHING, BUT WHAT YOU DO

SEEMS LIKE MORE THAN JUST

TWO BEING GATHERED IN HIS

NAME."

Pat: IF YOU READ THE

BIBLE, ONE OF THE

ANOINTMENTS IS THE WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE.

THE LORD SPEAKS HIS WORD,

AND HE SAYS THERE IS

SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE

WHO HAS A BROKEN LEG AND

I'M HEALING IT.

SO I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO

HEAL THE LEG; I'M

DECLARING WHAT HE HAS

DONE.

THAT'S WHY IT HAPPENS

INSTANTLY BECAUSE GOD IS

ALREADY DOING IT.

AS YOU GATHER TWO OR MORE,

HE IS IN THE MIDST AND HE

IS DOING MIRACLES.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

PSALM 34: "TASTE AND SEE

THAT THE LORD IS GOOD.

BLESSED IS THE ONE WHO

TAKES REFUGE IN HIM."

WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING

WITH US.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME

WE'VE GOT.

FOR WENDY AND FOR TERRY

AND ALL OF US, THIS IS PAT

ROBERTSON.

I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE.

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