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News on The 700 Club: April 6, 2016

As seen on "The 700 Club," April 6: Will Cruz, Sanders victories lead to contested conventions?; Miss. Governor signs religious freedom bill; PayPal pulls jobs, investments over NC bathroom ordinance; and more. Read Transcript

You want a prediction, and that is they're

going to have a contested election, a convention

of the Republican Party.

And the one who emerges probably isn't going

to be one of the front runners.

It looked like Donald Trump was on the way to an easy victory,

and then after Wisconsin, he was dumped pretty badly.

And whether he can recover in New York remains to be seen.

But the voters in the Badger State

gave Ted Cruz a major victory over the Donald.

Trump still has the most delegates,

and we'll just see what happens.

My bet would be brokered convention

and another candidate emerging.



The big question now is, are the Republicans

headed for a contested convention this summer?

Gary Lane brings us this look at the race for the White House.

GARY LANE: It wasn't a knockout punch,

but Senator Ted Cruz delivered a major blow

to Donald Trump's effort to secure enough delegates to win

the Republican presidential nomination before the GOP


God bless the great state of Wisconsin!

GARY LANE: Wisconsin Republicans gave Cruz the nod over Trump,

48% to 35%.

Ohio governor John Kasich came in

a disappointing and distant third, winning only 14%

of the vote.

Tonight is a turning point.

It is a rallying cry.

It is a call from the hardworking men and women

of Wisconsin to the people of America.

We have a choice.

A real choice.

GARY LANE: Cruz said he is truly unifying the Republican Party.

Donald Trump responded, saying there's

no party unity, just an anti-Trump initiative led

by the GOP party establishment.

But American voters may now be moving toward favoring

Cruz over Trump.

A new Reuters poll shows Cruz leading Trump for the first

time nationally-- 39% to 37%-- and he'll still need to win

1,237 delegates to get the nomination.

After Wisconsin, Trump has 740 delegates; Cruz, 514;

and Kasich, only 143.

Meanwhile on the Democrat side, Badger State voters

made Hillary Clinton feel the Bern.

We won in Wisconsin!


GARY LANE: Vermont democratic socialist Senator Bernie

Sanders decisively beat Clinton by 10 points, with almost 57%

of the vote to her 43%.

We have now won seven out of eight of the last caucuses

and primaries!


GARY LANE: But Sanders still needs to win about 67%

of the remaining delegates to secure

the Democratic presidential nomination.

2,383 are needed.

Currently, Hillary Clinton has 1,743; Sanders, 1,056.

And while the momentum may now favor Sanders and Cruz,

much can change in political campaigns.

GOP front-runner Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton

are both expected to win New York when

voters go to the polls there in the next two weeks.

Gary Lane, CBN News.

You know, there was an article, I believe in the Wall Street

Journal today, or in the New York Times,

about the people who we have selected for our president.

And the trouble is, it is so dirty,

and it is so nasty, that the average really upstanding

person does not want to engage in that kind of mudslinging.

They don't want to get into that battle.

We have made it so unpleasant, and the press

has been so relentless in destroying

the reputations and the lifestyle of the candidates.

I know what it was to be one, and I

know what it was to have the Washington Post,

and all of the new Washington establishment coming

after you-- I mean, it's just horrible, what they do!

And as far as the Democrat Party goes,

they will destroy anybody.

It doesn't matter, it's just dirty!

And so the average person doesn't want to get in, so

who do we have as our candidates?

They're all flawed!

And it looks like we're going to have a story tomorrow.

I'm going to show you what the polls show,

as to who can beat Hillary Clinton in terms

of the Republicans, and neither Cruz nor Trump can do it.

And as far as Bernie Sanders, he's a way-out socialist,

and are the Democrats going to be happy with that?

And then their leader is under FBI scrutiny,

and the possibility of an indictment.

I mean, this is not a pleasant situation

to be in for the greatest nation on earth.

Now our CBN News political correspondent David Brody

is with us now from Washington, and Trump kind of

skewered himself on abortion.

Do you think that-- what was it that did it?

The attack on Scott Walker?

What hurt him in Wisconsin?

So many things to talk about, Pat.

So many mistakes by Donald Trump.

Yes, the abortion comments hurt him considerably,

because not only did he tick off pro-life folks,

he ticked off the other side as well.

I mean, he basicallyy-- for a guy that

has a problem with women in the polls,

as the polling has indicated, he did himself no favors at all.

Then, he goes around Wisconsin, and in essence--

let's just face it, Pat-- he trashes Scott Walker,

the governor there.

By the way, yeah, he beat Scott Walker.

But newsflash to Donald Trump, Scott Walker, pretty popular

in Wisconsin among the Republican faithful--

not a good move.

Of course, Corey Lewandowski, his campaign manager,

embroiled in the big controversy there.

So you just go down the line.

And quite frankly, Pat, Donald Trump

spent about a week or so off of the campaign

trail while Ted Cruz was there in Wisconsin.

You put it all together, and you have a resounding Ted Cruz


And let's remember, if you go inside those numbers

last night in Wisconsin, Ted Cruz

is not only winning evangelicals by a heavy amount,

he's also now winning non-evangelicals,

and that's a big deal.

And another thing to point out here-- and this

is a problem for Donald Trump-- this

was an open primary in a blue-collar, industrial state

with a lot of white voters that he does well with.

And he did not do as well with them last night.

That's a problem.

He's going into New York, and of course,

that should be his territory.

What are they saying about New York?

Does it look like-- are the candidates talking

to you about what looks like a contested convention?

Yeah, I think at this point it does look

like some sort of contested convention,

and we can talk about that in a moment.

I do want to point out, as you mentioned, New York.

Look, here's the good news for Donald Trump.

New York is two weeks away, it is his home state,

95 delegates up for grabs.

And, at this point, he's polling over 50% in his home

state of New York-- meaning that there is a good chance,

over 50% for sure, that he could get

all 95 delegates in New York.

That would be a reset moment for him.

So I think, quite frankly, Pat, the key right

now for Donald Trump is, does he recalibrate in these next two

weeks, become a little bit more presidential?

Or does he dig in his heels and say,

you know what, I'm going with what I'm going with,

and that's the way it's going to be.

There's no indication at all that he's going to recalibrate.

There are some suggestions at this point

that he's going to come out with a couple

public policy speeches on education, on the military,

on judges.

That'll help him.

But if he doesn't get his presidential act together,

he's in a world of trouble, because he

needs those 1,237 delegates to win on the first ballot.

If he doesn't win on the first ballot, all bets are off.

We go to a contested convention at that point,

and that's where Ted Cruz's operation has done a far

superior job than Donald Trump.

You know, Donald Trump is not a politician.

But in this case, it may pay to be a politician,

because Ted Cruz's campaign is doing a great job on getting

and securing those delegates on the second ballot, which

is where this thing may go to, Pat.

David, do you want to talk about how delegates in New York

are selected?

It's a congressional district plus the state,

and how is he going to shake down?

If you win 51% or something, talk to us about the way

those delegates are apportioned.

Yeah, well, actually in New York,

if you win 50% of all delegates, and-- here's

the key, not or-- and you win 50%

in each congressional district, you will win all 95 delegates.

So there are two components to a New York

winner-take-all scenario.

At this point, at least, the polling

shows that Donald Trump could indeed pull that off.

We'll see.

I do want to clarify-- not clarify, but just

explain to folks the difference between a contested convention

and a brokered convention.

We are headed, it seems, to a contested convention,

which means no one's going to win on the first ballot.

Then they go to a second and third ballot,

where delegates can vote for whoever they want.

That's a contested convention.

A brokered convention, much different.

Then, it becomes where we get to a fourth, fifth ballot,


Ted Cruz doesn't have the delegates,

Donald Trump doesn't have the delegates,

John Kasich won't have the delegates.

And then it's called brokered because we're

going into a smoky, back room board room

where Reince Priebus and the boys from the Republican Party

say, hey, who do we have that can run?

Oh, look over there, there's Paul Ryan.

And that's the Paul Ryan scenario,

that's the brokered convention.

No one really thinks it's actually going to come to that,

but who knows, Pat?

I don't know.

I need Excedrin.

--[LAUGHS] Well, get a bottle of them, buddy!

Go for it!

Thank you, David, terrific analysis.

Appreciate it.

You bet.


What a night, you know?

Yes, what a night it's going to be-- I'm telling you,

I'm really a little sick of what I'm seeing, though.

I mean, the nastiness that's going out there,

and the idea of pictures of Cruz's wife versus Trump's


And this kind of stuff-- it didn't used to be that way.

We had the 11th commandment, and it was set up by Ronald Reagan.

And he said, thou shalt not speak

ill of a fellow Republican.

And the guys didn't beat themselves up!

I ran against some pretty tough guys.

I mean, one would-- you know--

And that was before Twitter, before Facebook,

before social media.

It makes you wonder if that's one of the reasons,

that they just need stuff to put out there.

Well, I think they're obsessed with that.

But you have to keep your hand off the keyboard,

and you just can't just sit there at a typing machine,

and type up anything that comes to your mind.

Have you ever seen an election, though,

where the front runners lose so big in one state,

and then they do well in another state, and then--

Well, it happens that way.

But it used to be, if you picked up some of the small ones,

if you get Iowa and New Hampshire,

and then you might pick up something like Wisconsin,

and suddenly you were it, and the money started flowing in.

Right now, they all have huge amounts of money,

and they're getting it through social media,

through Twitter and all that.

Bernie Sanders is loaded.

I mean, he has an enormous amount of money,

as do all the others, so they can go the course.

But we're going to show tomorrow,

the one guy of the three of the Republicans

who can beat Hillary Clinton is John Kasich-- not Cruz,

and not Trump.


That's what we see in the polls.

But as far as Bernie Sanders, who knows.

I mean, he's a wild card, nobody knows.


Well, folks, stay tuned.

In other news, the governor of Mississippi

has signed into law a religious freedom protection bill.

John Jessup has that story.

That's right, Pat.

Governor Phil Bryant signed the measure Tuesday

after it passed the Mississippi House and Senate last week.

Churches, religious charities, and private businesses

will be able to decline to take part

in wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples

without fear of punishment.

Critics argue the law discriminates

against the gay community.

The measure also says that governments must still

provide services, but individual employees may opt out.

I think it's a good bill.

I think it protects the religious freedom

of people who have deeply-held religious beliefs.

And so did the legislature, and so did

the majority of people in the state of Mississippi,

so we signed it into law.

JOHN JESSUP: The law will go into effect July 1.

Well, Pfizer, the biggest US drug maker,

won't be moving ahead with its merger

with Allergan, a company based in Ireland.

The two companies called off the record $160 billion

merger today by mutual agreement.

Under the deal, Pfizer's operations and headquarters

would have stayed in the US, but its address

would have moved to Ireland, would pay far less in taxes.

Pfizer pointed to new Treasury Department regulations

that make such mergers less profitable.

Other businesses have moved their addresses out

of the US for tax reasons, and critics, Pat,

say businesses have moved because US corporate tax

rates are the highest in the developed world.

This whole thing is illegal, what the Treasury Department

is doing.

They have no constitutional authority whatsoever

to raise taxes without congressional mandate.

They're doing it because they don't

think there's going to be a challenge, but there should be.

But the deal is, instead of trying to punish somebody

to escape your own burden, why don't you

make the burden less onerous?

England is going to cut down, I think, down to about 18%

in its corporate tax.

We have-- when you get through paying the federal tax,

and then there's a state tax on top of it,

the United States without question

has the highest corporate tax rates in the world.

And if when a company wants to get out from under that,

the Treasury Department is saying-- illegally,

I might add, it's illegal-- we're going

to keep you from doing it.

We're going to pass treasury regulations.

Well, who gives them the authority to set tax rates?

They don't have it.

It's only in Congress, and Congress has not yet

ruled on this, and they should.

But there's all this money that's stashed overseas

that they don't want to bring back,

because the rates are so high?

It is a confused mess, but does Obama

want to make it any more inviting

to work here in America?

Absolutely not.

And you might add about the interesting thing that has just

been passed in California, they've put on a minimum wage

now, $15 an hour, $15 an hour.

And the governor has said we know that many people will not

be able to be employed because of this tax.

But we're going to put it on anyhow.

And it means it's going to stick it

in the neck in the teenagers, and the Hispanics,

and the blacks, and the people who are in the lower

economic strata.

They're going to have trouble, and who

can call this progressive?

Wendy, it's just outrageous.

At $15 an hour.

It sounds so-- I'm going to give everybody $15.

It sounds noble.

But you can't afford to hire some kid

to be in a sandwich shop.


I mean, everybody has to make-- there's no wiggle room.

Everybody has to make $15.

I mean, why go to school?

Why get a degree?

Well, it's absolutely insane, but Governor Moonbeam

signed it into law.

I don't like it.

I don't think Pat likes it, either.


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