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News on The 700 Club: April 28, 2016

As seen on "The 700 Club," April 28: Trump scoffs at Cruz choosing a running mate: 'He can't win'; Glimmer of hope for McDonnell? High Court hears corruption case; New Tennessee law protects conscience rights for counselors; and more. Read Transcript


Welcome, folks.

They say Hail Mary is good if you're down

the last down in a football game and you

throw that long pass and hope somebody catches.

Well, it looks like Senator Cruz thinks that Hail Mary is

going to do some good for him.

I doubt it sincerely.

But he has chosen a very intelligent, attractive lady,

Carly Fiorina, as his running mate.

But he hasn't got anything to run on yet.

So what is she going to be the mate to?

We don't know.


Well Meanwhile Trump is laying out his vision

for what he would do as president

in the area of foreign policy.

Dale Hurd has the story.

My friend, and the next Vice President

of the United States, Carly Fiorina.

DALE HURD: It's an unusual move for a presidential candidate

to pick a vice presidential running mate before winning

his party's nomination.

Even more unusual when his path to the nomination is blocked.

But trailing Donald Trump, Ted Cruz

went ahead and announced his choice.

I am prepared to stand by his side

and give this everything I have.

DALE HURD: Carly Fiorina tussled with Trump

early in the primary season for comments

he made about her face.

And the GOP frontrunner dismissed this latest move.

A new relationship has started, Cruz and Carly.

Cruz can't win.

What's he doing picking Vice Presidents?

Trump had other things to talk about as well.

He gave a major foreign policy speech in Washington

and warned America's allies they'll

need to start paying for their own defense.

He also railed on the Bush and Obama administrations

for not stopping the persecution of Christians in the Middle


We have done nothing to help the Christians, nothing.

And we should always be ashamed for that,

for that lack of action.

DALE HURD: Trump went from there to Indiana,

where he got the endorsement of legendary Indiana Hoosiers

basketball coach, Bobby Knight, ahead of Tuesday's primary.

If we win Indiana, it's over.

I'm not playing games with Indiana.

After Indiana votes, Hillary Clinton

is hoping it's all over for Bernie Sanders.

Delegate math is not with Sanders,

who rallied thousands of screaming fans

at Indiana University hours after he

announced the layoffs of hundreds of campaign staffers.

Next Tuesday, let us have the highest voter

turnout in Indiana history.

Ted Cruz is 400 delegates behind Trump.

And while he expects to win Indiana,

if he doesn't, analysts say it's all over.

Dale Hurd, CBN News.

You know I was watching Krauthammer,

who just dumped on Cruz-- I mean,

on Trump's foreign policy speech.

Barry McCaffrey, a former four-star General,

said it was a home run, hit it out of the park.

I think other foreign policy experts have applauded it.

I've personally read the thing.

I thought he did a very good job.

I mean, he's only-- you can only say so much in the speech

and it takes 20, 25 minutes.

I mean, you can't outline a book on foreign policy.

But what he's saying, it touches the heart

of a lot of Americans.

He said look, we've been kicked around.

We've been abused.

They've taken advantage of us.

And you look at NATO, only two nations or on-- I think two,

give 2% of their GDP toward military.

The rest of them aren't carrying their load.

And it's true for-- World War II ended a long time ago, 1945.

And we've still got substantial troops in Germany.

Germany is a big power.

Why should we pay the bill for that?

And that's what Trump is saying.

Same thing in Korea.

We've got a huge contingent in Korea.

Korea, South Korea, is a huge nation, has vibrant industry,

very prosperous.

Why should we pick up the tab for defending them

against the North?

And that doesn't mean we pull back

from international commitments, but it

does mean we've got to ask them to pay the bills.

And that's what Trump is saying.

We've been like Uncle Sucker.

And so, I think a lot of Americans

are saying yes, Donald, you're saying it right.

And this, I think, will help propel him along the way.

But it's only a little bit more to go.

Indiana could be a real turning point.

Cruz, if he loses Indiana, he's finished.

And Trump may just go ahead and say, all right, I'm it.

He's already declared himself the presumptive nominee.

And there's still a lot of negotiating back and forth.

But I do think that his vice president is sitting there

in Ohio.

I mean, John Kasich hasn't won anything for president.

And I understand the rules are such that he now cannot qualify

to be the nominee for president.

But he certainly would make a fantastic vice president

and bring a lot of weight to the ticket.

But that's up to Donald Trump to decide.

Well, in other news, it looks as if the Supreme Court

is going to side with former Virginia Governor Bob McDonald

against the federal government.

The justices wanted to know if federal prosecutors went

too far in their charges against the sitting governor.

John Jessup has that story from our CBN News

bureau in Washington.

Thanks, Pat.

The justices had tough questions for the government

about MacDonald's conviction on corruption charges

under federal law.

The case could have implications for elected officials

across the country.

The justices wanted to know if government prosecutors could

use a vague law to charge a politician with a crime,

even if he or she wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary.

Jennifer Wishon on was inside the courtroom

during oral arguments and brings us the story.

JENNIFER WHISHON: It looked like a very good day

in the nation's highest court for Bob McDonnell.

The former Virginia Governor is facing two years in prison

after being convicted of political corruption.

But justices seemed poised to overturn his conviction.

Never during a time in my 38 years of public service

have I ever done anything that would

abuse the powers of my office.

JENNIFER WHISHON: At issue is a federal law that

forbids public officials from accepting money

in exchange for official acts.

The question is, what qualifies as an official act?

In court, justices grapple with where

to draw the line between corruption,

giving away favors in return for gifts,

and ordinary public service.

Justices on both sides of the ideological divide

seemed troubled by the nearly unbridled power

federal prosecutors have to go after elected officials who

are working to help the constituents who hired them.

Justice Steven Breyer, generally considered a liberal,

was the most outspoken, saying the law

used to convict McDonnell puts at risk behavior that

is common.

The government charged McDonnell with giving out favors

in return for gifts, but lawyers for the former Governor

say he never gave anything back after receiving gifts

from a businessman.

A number of unlikely groups filed friend of the court

briefs on McDonnell's behalf, including

dozens of former White House attorneys

for both Republican and Democratic presidents,

including President Obama.

Chief Justice Roberts remarked, I

think it's extraordinary that those people agree on anything.

It's been a three year nightmare for the McDonnell family.

Throughout the process, the former Governor

has relied on his Catholic faith.

I want to give credit to my Lord

Jesus for his sustaining me and my wife and my family

during these last the 39 months that

have been very, very difficult.

JENNIFER WHISHON: He and his wife, Maureen,

who also faces prison time, have tried

to maintain some level of normalcy

while they await the rulings on their cases.

Governor McDonnell even volunteers

for Operation Blessing.

Got two grandchildren and two more on the way,

and started a new business.

You know, I've got the most amazing friends in the world

and felt more love and support in the last two years

than any time in my life.

So I'm a very blessed man.

JENNIFER WHISHON: Along with his Christian faith,

McDonnell, an attorney himself, has always

expressed faith in the law.

I've given my life to public service in 38 years

and have loved every minute of it.

And this has obviously been a personal challenge,

but I know the justice system will get this right.

JENNIFER WHISHON: The Court is expected

to issue its ruling in June.

Jennifer Wishon, CBN News, the Supreme Court.

Thanks Jennifer.

Pat, do you agree with Governor McDonnell

that the justice system is going to get it right on this one?

Well, you'd hope so in this case.

I think it's going to be the case.

The Supreme Court, you know, if Scalia

had been still on the court, it would have

been a so-called slam dunk.

I mean, it probably would've been 5 to 2, or 6 to 2, 7 to 2,

whatever, in favor of McDonnell.

But it looks like, with Breyer and others on the court,

because the friends of the court, the so-called amici

or amicus briefs that were filed go

across the broad spectrum of Attorneys

General, both Democrat, both Republican guys like Lanny

Davis who was a White House counsel for Clinton,

and professors from Harvard, all say here's

the situation, ladies and gentlemen.

We have in Virginia very liberal laws.

There is no crime whatsoever in an official receiving

gifts, none whatsoever, as long as he declares the gifts.

So if he got a million dollars from somebody, he's a gift, OK.

Now the question is, did the man buy something for that gift?

And if in turn, the governor or the official

then sits down and says OK, I now

give you water rights over the Chesapeake Bay

in exchange for your gift, that is a so-called quid pro quo

and that is illegal.

That is corruption.

Now came up with Bob McDonnell, a man says,

well why don't you ride in my Ferrari?

Big deal.

Why don't you stay at my hunting lodge in the mountains?

Big deal.

It happens all the time.

Would you host a meeting in the Governor's Mansion

for some supporters of my company.

All the time public officials do that because their job

is to promote business from their constituents,

and to bring business to the state,

and to offer friends a favorable situation for those doing

business as their constituent.

That's what they do.

It's when they start this quid pro quo.

You get the quid, but you don't give the quo.

Bob McDonald gave Johnny Whatever--

he's worth millions-- nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G, nothing.

And so, the Hobbs Act, the judge who ruled on this rule

incorrectly, he gave a charge to the jury

that was highly slanted.

And the Justice Department was trying

to get somebody who was a potential senatorial candidate.

Bob would have won a Senate seat,

not to mention being mentioned as a potential Vice


And so this was politics.

And the Supreme Court, God bless them, is coming out right.

And Chief Justice Roberts is asking the Justice Department

all right, tell us who you can prosecute.

What acts would they have to do?

Well they can do almost anything.

I mean, they can send out newsletters

in favor of a company and they could be

in violation of the Hobbs Act.

Well, it's too vague.

And under our law, you do not put somebody in jail

on a law that is so vague they can't

understand what they're doing.

And that's what Justice Breyer was talking about.

This is unconstitutionally vague.

After all these years, would I keep reminding my dear friend

Bob McDonnell about what happened to Joseph.

When it was all over and he came out of prison,

he wound up running Egypt.

So I don't know if the job is in the cards for Bob,

but he's going to be a stronger man, a dedicated

Christian, and a great public service servant.

He's one of the best governors we've ever had in Virginia

and this thing is a disgrace.

So thank God.

And we're finding people from CNN and others

who'd heard the justices and not realized

where that case is going.

And so keep praying for Bob, the decision--

actually they vote right after the oral argument,

and then they decide who's going to write the decision.

And the Chief will decide which member of the Supreme Court

will write the decision.

And we'll have a decision sometime I think in June.

Well the support he's had from his own peers is--


The support he's had from his own peers--


--is remarkable.

He had business leaders, he had education leaders,

he had all kinds of distinguished lawyers

on both sides of the-- they say, guys

like Lanny Davis and others, said look,

this is a misapplication of the law.

If this Hobbs Act is supposed to be interpreted this way,

then it is unconstitutional.

And that's what the Justices are saying.

So, anyhow.

Can I say also, that's the kind of political junk

that people are sick of.

They are.

You know, it's just--

They really are.

They don't want crooked politicians,

but here's an honest man who's being pilloried because he

was a potential candidate.

He would have won the Senate race if he had run.

There's no question he would have won it.

And there's no question he would have been a Vice

President for Mitt Romney.

So they wanted to get him.

And this is a dirty game.

But the man is-- he's gone to his knees,

he's cried out to God, he's exalted the Lord Jesus Christ,

and God's going to honor him.

So anyhow, wow, what a story.

Well, John, what's next?

Pat, after the recent earthquakes

along the Ring of Fire in Ecuador in Japan,

some people have raised questions

about possible natural disasters right here in the US.

The biggest one could come from Yellowstone National Park

because that sits on top of the world's largest volcano.

Back in 2011, Paul Strand visited Yellowstone

and filed this report about just how devastating

an eruption there would be.

PAUL STRAND: Recent news stories warn

Yellowstone is on the move.

Since 2004, the ground has been expanding upwards

at an accelerated pace, sometimes

as much as three inches a year.

We have significant ground movement

over tens of square miles.

PAUL STRAND: That accelerated expanding

has some folks worrying because Yellowstone is basically

a slowly ticking time bomb.

One that might take hundreds of thousands of years to blow,

but blow it will.

Because Yellowstone is the world's largest mega volcano,

53 miles across.

And it's produced three of the planet's most

monstrous eruptions.

Hollywood and the doomsday flick 2012

imagine what it will look like if or when it happens again,

with the main character racing, running, and flying away

from the super hot pyroclastic clouds

that would burn anyone to the bones caught in the blast.

He couldn't really have raced, run, or flew fast enough

to get away.

All of Yellowstone's natural beauty,

any wildlife that had fled, any humans unfortunate enough

to be within dozens of miles, would be annihilated.

Ash clouds would spread across much of the USA.

A Geological Society of London report

states so much sulfuric acid would

be created in the atmosphere, it would block sunlight and plunge

earth temperatures anywhere from 9 to 15 degrees for years.

As a report puts it, such events could

result in the ruin of world agriculture,

severe disruption of food supplies, and mass starvation.

The effects could be sufficiently severe to threaten

the fabric of civilization.

And that's what could lead to possibly a billion casualties.

Half of the world's geysers are right here in Yellowstone,

the result of water super-heated by a huge magma chamber

four to six miles below the surface,

America's hottest hot spot.

It's what would cause the next mega explosion.

And that threat is what keeps scientists locking GPS monitors

on the park surface 24 hours a day,

and why they know the center of Yellowstone

is rising about two inches every year.

If we were getting about a yard per year,

we'd get real excited.

PAUL STRAND: Because dramatic ground swelling

can signal magma is on the way up,

ready to cause a rerun of history's most

destructive mega eruption.

Here's some of Yellowstone's lava up close.

But looking into the distance, imagine

the awesome and horrifying sight if that massive caldera that

stretches out for dozens of miles

erupted in the largest explosion in all of Earth's history.

It left a crater, also known as a caldera,

so many miles across you could drop Tokyo right in the middle

and have room left over.

Yellowstone geologist Hank Hessler

says that mega explosion blasted 600 cubic miles of molten

rock out of the ground and shot up enough ash to bury all

New York City under a mile of the sandy stuff.

That's 6,000 times larger than Mt.

St. Helen's.

PAUL STRAND: But will it happen here in Yellowstone again?

Hessler says since the mega eruptions,

the caldera has been filled in by some 80 smaller

eruptions that spewed up lava.

It's inevitable more will come.

We know those are in Yellowstone's future,

but the big super volcanoes, we do not know.

PAUL STRAND: Still, most scientists

say don't worry about visiting Yellowstone

because signs of a coming catastrophic eruption

would be clear weeks, maybe even decades or centuries,

before the big blow.

Paul Strand, CBN News, reporting from Yellowstone National Park.

Thanks Paul, beautiful scenery, but Pat,

some pretty frightening scenarios in Paul's report.

I used to work in Yellowstone.

I had one summer working there, the Forest Service, and oh my,

I worked in a filling station actually, pumping gas.

We pumped about 8000 gallons a day.

We really were busy.

It was a line from early morning till night,

just coming through.

But when we had a break, we'd go off

and we'd swim in those geysers.

Yellowstone Lake is freezing cold,

but these little guys are coming up

so we'd have like a warm water swimming pool.

And it was great.

But I had no idea how bad it is.

Here's the deal, they say if it erupted--

it's been about 630,000 years since the last one,

so it's a long time ago-- but if it blew,

we'd have about 2,300 cubic miles of stuff

thrown into the atmosphere.

And as our report showed, it would take the temperature down

about eight or nine degrees, destroy agriculture,

and it would go all around the world with a cloud of ash.

I mean, we're sitting in America on the most dangerous

earthquake potential, volcanic potential, in the world.

And with the Ring of Fire heating up,

you read about well, OK, Japan had a blow.

And you had something in Indonesia.

You get something in Ecuador, a bad one.

And then you may have some in Seattle.

But remember, Yellowstone is sitting there

in that overall zone of instability as the plates

crushing it.

We don't want to scare you, but it's

fun to know that you better get right with the Lord.

And if the thing blows up, hallelujah, we

go up to be with Jesus.

That's the answer.

All right.

Well thankfully, they're able to monitor it to some degree.

Well a lot of good that's going to do.

You know, that add that they have in the background.

They say, what do you do?

Are you a guard?

Well I'm a monitor.

Whether or not a robbery is taking place,

anyone can see the robbery is taking place.

So that's all you can do is say, well there's

going to be an explosion.

You can't stop it.

There's nothing you can do to stop it.

Newsflash, huh.



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