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The 700 Club - June 30, 2016

Trading guns and running drugs, one crook hits a crossroads. Plus, author and fitness model Natalie Jill shares why and how she lost 60 pounds. Read Transcript


Wendy: COMING UP...A

CBN NEWS EXCLUSIVE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE

SAYING DON'T TALK ABOUT

IT.

Wendy: JAMES FORTUNE

MAKES HIS FIRST AND ONLY

INTERVIEW SINCE PLEADING

GUILTY TO DOMESTIC

VIOLENCE.

I'M ONLY HERE FROM MY

OWN CHOICES.

Wendy:

PLUS...CREATING GUNS AND

RUNNING DRUGS, ONE CROOK

HITS THE CROSSROADS.

YOU MAY BE KILLED OR

YOU MAY HAVE TO KILL

SOMEBODY ELSE.

Wendy: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN.

WE'VE GOT AN ELECTION

COMING UP, AND THE TRUTH

IS THE FIRST THING THAT

PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IN THE

ELECTION IS THE ECONOMY.

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

HOW ARE YOU BETTER OFF

THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS

AGO?

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE

GOING TO ASK.

AND WHAT IS DRIVING THE

PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE

TODAY?

WELL, IT CENTERS PRIMARILY

IN THE UNITED STATES

ECONOMY.

I'M GOING TO HAVE THE

PRIVILEGE OF TALKING TO

THE MAN WHO IS HELPING TO

CRAFT A NEW FEDERAL TAX

CODE.

Terry: CRITICS SAY

THAT OUR COMPLEX TAX CODE

IS HURTING BUSINESS AND

COSTING JOBS.

NOW REPUBLICANS IN

CONGRESS SAY THEY HAVE A

PLAN TO CHANGE ALL OF

THAT.

ABIGAIL ROBERTSON BRINGS

US THAT STORY FROM

WASHINGTON.

Reporter: OUR ECONOMY

MAY NOT BE GROWING VERY

STRONG, BUT THE LENGTH OF

THE AMERICAN TAX CODE IS.

THE COMPLICATED TAX CODE

IS DIFFICULT TO A COMPLY

WITH.

IT I INCLUDES THE HIGHEST

BUSINESS TAX AMONG MAJOR

COUNTRIES.

EXPERTS ARGUE THAT THE

GOVERNMENT COULD SOLVE

BOTH PROBLEMS AT ONCE BY

REFORMING THE ALMOST

75,000 PAGE TAX CODE AND A

NEWER, STREAMLINED TAX

SYSTEM COULD HELP THE

ECONOMY COME BACK AND

CREATE MORE JOBS.

THE CURRENT U.S. TAX

CODE IS WRITTEN LIKE IT

WAS PRODUCED BY OUR

ECONOMIC ADVERSARIES, WHO

ARE TRYING TO UNDERMINE

OUR AMERICA ECONOMY.

IT WORKS AGAINST AMERICA.

WE TACKS WHA TAX WHAT WE PRODUCE IN

THIS COUNTRY, AND WE DON'T

TAX WHAT WITH IMPORT.

Reporter: STEVEN

MOORE, AN ECONOMIC ADVISOR

FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,

SAYS IT TIME TO GET RID OF

ALL OF THE JUNK IN THE TAX

SYSTEM AND MAKE IT SIMPLE.

HAVE A POSTCARD TAX

RETURN, HOW MUCH DID YOU

MAKE, PAY A CERTAIN

PERCENTAGE FOR THAT.

MAYBE AN ALLOWANCE FOR HOW

MANY KIDS YOU HAVE AND HOW

BIG YOUR FAMILY.

BUT ALL OF THE TAX BREAKS

FOR INVESTING IN WINDMILLS

AND ALL OF THIS OTHER

STUFF -- LET'S JUST GET

RID OF THAT.

Reporter: NOW

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS

HAVE DEVELOPED A TAX

REFORM PLAN THEY SAY WILL

MAKE THE TAX CODE SIMPLER

AND STRENGTHEN THE

ECONOMY.

MOORE BELIEVES WITH A

BETTER TAX CODE, THE

ECONOMY COULD GROW 3% TO

4% A YEAR, WHICH IS FAR

BETTER THAN THE 1% TO 2%

UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.

IT WOULD ADD MILLIONS OF

JOBS IN THE MARKET AND

LEAD TO HIGHER PAYCHECKS.

REPORTING FROM WASHINGTON,

ABIGAIL ROBERTSON, CBN

NEWS.

Pat: JOINING US TO

TAKTALK A VERY CREATIVE

REPUBLICAN PLAN FOR

SIMPLIFYING THE TAX CODE

IS CONGRESSMAN BRADY.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE

YOU WITH US TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

GOOD MORNING, PAT,

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Pat: I WANT TO ASK

YOU THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

HAS IT CLEARED THE WAYS

AND MEANS COMMITTEE?

HAS IT CLEARED THE HOUSE?

WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT

BILL RIGHT NOW?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE JUST UNVEILED THE

BLUEPRINT ON FRIDAY.

AND WHAT WE'RE LYING OUT

IS A VERY PRO-FAMILY,

PRO-GROWTH TAX CODE, THAT

ALSO BUSTS UP THE I.R.S.

THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE

MORE JOBS HERE IN THE

LOCAL ECONOMY.

IT IS TO SIMPLIFY THE

CODE, TO MAKE IT SO FAIR

AND SIMPLE, IT ACTUALLY

CAN BE FILED ON A POSTCARD

FOR MOST AMERICANS.

AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE

SURE THAT WE BUST UP THE

I.R.S. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY

WORKING FOR AMERICANS, NOT

AGAINST US.

AND IF WE DO THAT, ONE,

THINK WE CAN GET RID OF

THE SECOND-RATE ECONOMY,

WHERE SO MANY SALARIES ARE

FLAT, WHERE MILLIONS OF

QUALIFIED WORKERS CAN'T

FIND FULL-TIME JOBS, AND

AMERICA KEEPS FALLING

BEHIND.

WE GET WEAKER AND OUR

FOREIGN COMPETITORS GET

STRONGER.

WE WANT TO DO THE

OPPOSITE.

THIS IS VERY MUCH A

PRO-AMERICAN TAX CODE AS

WELL.

Pat: I LOVE WHAT

YOU'RE DOING.

LET'S START WITH BUSINESS.

APPARENTLY AMERICA HAS THE

HIGHEST TAX.

WHEN THEY GET THROUGH

PAYING THE FEDERAL TAX,

THEY HAVE TO PAY STATE

TAXES, AND WE HAVE BECOME

THE HIGHEST TAXED COUNTRY

IN THE WORLD.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH

BUSINESS TAXES, FOR

STARTERS?

YEAH.

ONE, WE MAKE SURE

WASHINGTON TAKES LESS OF

WHAT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES

EARN SO THEY CAN INVEST IN

THE LOCAL ECONOMY, RATHER

THAN SEND THEIR MONEY AND

GROW WASHINGTON'S ECONOMY.

SO WE PROPOSE THE LOWEST

BUSINESS RATES IN MORE

THAN 100 YEARS FOR

BUSINESSES, WHETHER

THEY'RE LARGE OR SMALL,

FAMILY-OWNED OR

CORPORATION, BECAUSE WE

KNOW THAT IS THE KEY TO

GROWTH.

THE OTHER THING IS, FOR

THE FIRST TIME WE STOPPED

TAXING AMERICAN BUSINESSES

HERE AT HOME AND THEN

UNDER THE CURRENT LAW, WE

TAX THEM, WHEN THEY

COMPETE AROUND THE WORLD,

AND TRY TO BRING THOSE

PROFITS HOME AND INVEST IN

OUR LOCAL AREAS -- WE'RE

THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT

TAXES THEM.

WE STOPPED DOING THEM.

AND WE STOPPED TAXING WHAT

IS MADE IN AMERICA, AND WE

TAX THE IMPORTS THAT ARE

COMING IN.

SO FOR THE FIRST TIME, OUR

"MADE IN AMERICA" PRODUCTS

WILL BE COMPETITIVE HERE

AND AROUND THE WORLD.

AND WE'RE REMOVING EVERY

INCENTIVE FOR A COMPANY TO

MOVE THEMSELVES, THEIR

MANUFACTURING, OR THEIR

JOBS TO SOME OTHER

COUNTRY.

SO THIS IS VERY STRONGLY

IN SUPPORT OF MORE JOBS

HERE IN OUR COUNTRY.

Pat: THE CURRENT TAX

CODE, YOU'VE GOT ONE TYPE

OF TAX FOR CORPORATIONS.

AND THEN THERE ARE

PARTNERSHIPS AND OTHER

CORPORATE FORMS OF

BUSINESS.

ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THEM

THE SAME?

IS THAT THE IDEA IN THIS

NEW TAX PLAN?

YEAH, THEY'RE VERY

CLOSE.

IN FACT, WE CUT TAXES FOR

BOTH CORPORATIONS AND THEN

THE OTHER IS WHAT WE CALL

MOM AND POPS, OR

PARTNERSHIPS, AS YOU SAID.

WE CUT THOSE RATES TO THE

LOWEST IN NEARLY 100 YEARS

AS WELL BECAUSE WE THINK

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THOSE

JOBS AND THOSE BUSINESSES

GROW AS WELL.

AND WE DO THAT -- AGAIN,

THERE ARE A LOT OF FIRST FIRSTS

IN HISTORY IN O OUR PAST.

IBILL, THE LOCAL PRINTER

HAS HAD TO PAY HIGHER

RATES, AND WE LOWER THE

RATES DRAMATICALLY FOR OUR

LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AND WE ALLOW THEM TO WRITE

OFF FROM THEIR TAXES,

IMMEDIATELY, ALL OF THAT

NEW EQUIPMENT, THE

BUILDING AND THE NEW

TRUCKS, THE OIL WELL THEY

CREATED, THE NEW

MANUFACTURING PLANT -- WE

ALLOW THEM TO IMMEDIATELY,

IN AN UNLIMITED WAY, WRITE

OFF THOSE INVESTMENTS.

THAT MAY, DR. ROBERTSON,

MAY BE THE MOST PRO-JOBS

PART OF THIS BLUEPRINT.

Pat: SO THERE WON'T

BE AN EXPENSE OVER THE

YEARS -- IT IS AN

IMMEDIATE WRITEOFF OF

INVESTMENT.

THAT'S A TREMENDOUS JOB

CREATOR.

IT REALLY IS.

Pat: THE TAX CODE IS

JUST RIDDLED WITH

EXCEPTIONS.

THE LOBBYISTS HAVE BEEN AT

IT FOR YEARS, AND THEY

HAVE LITTLE CUTOUTS AND

CARVEOUTS FOR

PRIVILEGES -- YOU'RE DOING

AWAY WITH A LOT OF THAT?

WE REALLY ARE.

SINCE PRODUCT REAGAN

REFORMED THE CODE -- WHAT

SMALL BUSINESSES CAN KEEP

UP WITH THIS?

THE ANSWER IS NO ONE.

WE BASICALLY GO ALL IN FOR

GROWTH ON JOBS.

AND FOR FAMILIES, WE GO

ALL IN FOR SIMPLICITY.

WE'VE BEEN LISTENING.

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAS

SAID, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A

TACKTAX CODE THAT IS SO SIMPLE

THAT IT CAN FIT ON A

POSTCARD.

AND WASHINGTON SAYS IT

CAN'T HAPPEN.

WE ARE PROPOSING THAT.

WE THINK THE AMERICAN

PUBLIC IS GOING TO SPEAK

OUT IN SUPPORT OF THAT

SIMPLE, FAIR APPROACH.

Pat: THERE IS ONE

THING IN THE CODE CALLED

"THE DEATH TAX," AND I

UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALK

TAKING THATAKINGTHAT AWAY?

YES.

I LEAD THE COALITION IN

WASHINGTON TO END THE

DEATH TAX.

SO FOR THE FIRST TIME

SINCE IT WAS ESTABLISHED

IN 1916, WE PERMANENTLY --

IT IS THE MOST IMMORAL TAX

ON THE BOOKS.

IT HITS THE WRONG PEOPLE

AT THE WRONG TIME FOR THE

WRONG REASONS.

IT IS THE NUMBER ONE

REASON FAMILY-OWNED FARMS

AND BUSINESSES AREN'T

PASSED DOWN TO THEIR KIDS

AND GRANDKIDS.

SO WE END IT.

WHICH I THINK FOR A LOT OF

AMERICANS IS GOING TO BE A

BIG SIGH OF RELIEF.

Pat: I CAN HEAR A

SHOUT OF PRAISE GOING

FORWARD FROM THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE ON THIS TAX PLAN.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE

FATE WHEN IT HITS

CONGRESS?

WILL IT PASS THE SENATE?

THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO

DO.

YEAH.

WELL, WE'RE STARTING WITH

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

AND THE POINT HOUSE

REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING IS,

THIS IS NOT OUR TAX CODE.

THIS IS YOURS, AMERICA.

SO IF YOU WANT MORE JOBS,

SPEAK UP.

IF YOU WANT A SIMPLE AND

FAIR POSTCARD SYSTEM,

SPEAK UP.

IF YOU NO LONGER WANT TO

FEAR THE I.R.S., SPEAK UP.

BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY WE

CAN MAKE SUCH

GAME-CHANGING REFORMS AND

TO REALLY BLOW THROUGH ALL

OF THE WASHINGTON SPECIAL

INTERESTS IS IF AMERICANS

SPEAK UP.

I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL BE

SUPPORTED BY HOUSE

REPUBLICANS, AND WE INTEND

TO LISTEN TO THE AMERICAN

PUBLIC THROUGH THE REST OF

THE YEAR AS WE FINISH

WRITING THIS.

WE INTEND UNDER OUR

SPEAKER, PAUL RYAN, TO

HOLD A VOTE TO ADVANCE

THIS TAX REFORM.

IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY

HELPFUL IF WE HAD A

REPUBLICAN SENATE AND A

REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE TO

SIGN THIS BILL.

Pat: DONALD TRUMP

COULD WIN RUNNING ON A

PLATFORM LIKE THIS.

IS HE ON BOARD YET?

OR HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO

HIM?

YEAH -- NOT YET.

BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO

HIS TAX ADVISORS, WHO ARE

VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF

THE PRO-GROWTH, PRO-FAMILY

TYPE OF APPROACH WE'RE

TAKING.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE

TERRIFIC IF REPUBLICANS

AND OUR NOMINEE,

MR. TRUMP, WERE UNITED

BEHIND ONE MAJOR TAX

REFORM.

I THINK IT WOULD SEND THE

RIGHT SIGNAL, AND

CERTAINLY MAKE IT HARDER

TO DIVIDE THE PARTY ON

THIS.

Pat: WHAT WOULD YOU

LIKE OUR AUDIENCE TO DO?

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING, AND

IF THEY'RE LIKE ME,

THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS A

TREMENDOUS TAX PLAN.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET

THEIR VOICES ACROSS?

SPEAK OUT.

DR. ROBERTSON, YOU'RE SO

GOOD AT THIS.

HAVE THEM SPEAK OUT.

HAVE THEM CALL OR E-MAIL

OR TEXT THEIR LOCAL

CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR,

AND TELL THEM, WE WANT

THAT POSTCARD.

WE WANT THAT PRO-FAMILY

TAX REFORM.

ACT ON IT NOW.

I THINK, AGAIN, THE ONLY

WAY WE CAN PREVAIL IS THAT

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAS A

SAY IN THIS TAX COLD, AND

THEY USE THEIR VOICE,

STARTING THIS MORNING.

Pat: CONGRESSMAN, I

APPLAUD YOU ON WHAT YOU'RE

DOING AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.

I HOPE THIS SAILS THROUGH

THE CONGRESS AND IT GETS

TO BE A VETO-PROOFED

MAJORITY.

MAYBE THE PRESIDENT WILL

SIGN IT.

BUT WE'LL SEE.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE

DOING.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR.

IT'S MY PLEASURE.

Pat: KEVIN BRADY, HE

REPRESENTS THE HOUSTON

AREA OF TEXAS.

Terry: I WANT TO

RAISE MY VOICE.

HALLELUJAH.

Pat: REALLY.

THIS IS FANTASTIC.

Terry: OH OH, MY WORD.

THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.

Pat: THEY HAVE

CAREFULLY LOOKED AT IT.

AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE

WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO WRITE

THE TAX LAW.

IT IS THE HOUSE WAYS AND

MEANS COMMITTEE, ACCORDING

TO THE CONSTITUTION.

Terry: SOME OF THE

WAY WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THE

PLACE WE ARE TODAY,

NEGATIVELY, BECAUSE WE

HAVEN'T RAISED OUR VOICE.

SO HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

Pat: THE LOBBYISTS

HAVE RAISED THEIR VOICES

BECAUSE THEY'RE IN WITH

THE BIG DONORS AND THEY

PEEL OUT THE CASH.

YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE US THIS

CUTOUT -- THE IDEA YOU CAN

EXPENSE ALL OF THE NEW

INVESTMENTS YOU MAKE IN A

COMPANY, THAT'S

INCREDIBLE.

CORPORATIONS,

PARTNERSHIPS, ALL OF THE

OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESS

FORMATIONS, ACCORDING TO

THAT, WILL BE TAXED THE

SAME.

AND THE LOWEST CORPORATE

TAX IN 100 YEARS, 20%.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

IT WILL STIMULATE THE

ECONOMY DRAMATICALLY AND

CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS.

Terry: EVERYBODY GETS

BLESSED BY THAT ONE.

Pat: I LOVE IT.

OKAY.

Terry: OKAY.

WELL, COMING UP, A CBN

NEWS EXCLUSIVE, FOR THE

FIRST TIME PUBLICLY,

GOSPEL RECORDING ARTIST

JAMES FORTUNE TALKS ABOUT

ASSAULTING THIS WIFE.

I DID PUT MY HANDS ON

HER.

I DID PHYSICALLY RESTRAIN

HER AND REMOVE HER FROM MY

ROOM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I

WAS THE PERPETRATOR AND

THE ABUSER.

Terry: CANDID

REVELATIONS FROM THIS

POPULAR PERFORMER WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: WELL, YOU'RE

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE WITH

YOU.

WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF

THINGS FOR YOU TODAY, SO

STAY TUNED.

> WELL, THIS GUY HAD

BEEN AT THE TOP OF THE

GOSPEL MUSIC CHARTS.

BUT A FEW MONTHS AGO,

SINGER JAMES FORTUNE PUT

HIS CAREER AT RISK: HE

FACED THE JUDGE AND PLED

GUILTY TO ASSAULTING HIS

WIFE.

NOW FORTUNE IS OPENING UP

ABOUT THE INCIDENT IN THIS

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW.

HE TOLD EFREM GRAHAM THAT

HE HOPES THIS WILL START A

MUCH-NEEDED CONVERSATION

ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN

THE CHURCH.

*

* HOLD ON

Efrem: JAMES

FORTUNE'S MUSIC HAS TOPPED

THE GOSPEL CHARTS FOR MORE

THAN A DECADE.

MINISTRY WAS MY LIFE.

IT'S ALL I'VE KNOWN.

I STARTED PLAYING THE

DRUMS AT FIVE YEARS OLD.

Efrem: FORTUNE IS A

PREACHER'S KID FROM

HOUSTON, TEXAS.

HE HAS RECORDED SEVEN

ALBUMS, EARNED TWO GRAMMY

NOMINATIONS, AND PERFORMED

FOR PACKED CROWDS AROUND

THE WORLD.

BUT IN MARCH, THIS SINGER

AND SONGWRITER TRADED

THOSE VENUES FOR THIS

COURTROOM, WHERE HE

PLEADED GUILTY TO

ASSAULTING HIS WIFE.

Efrem: YOU'VE BEEN

GIVEN FIVE YEARS

PROBATION --

YES.

Efrem: YOU SPENT FIVE

DAYS IN JAIL.

WHAT WERE FIVE DAYS IN

JAIL LIKE FOR YOU,

MINISTER OF MUSIC?

I HAD A LOT OF TIME TO

THINK.

I MINISTERED IN PRISONS.

WE'VE GONE TO PRISONS,

MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISONS,

AND SHARED THE GOSPEL AND

MINISTERED.

AND HERE I AM AS AN INMATE

MYSELF.

Efrem: AND YOU DID

100 HOURS OF COMMUNITY

SERVICE?

I'M STILL DOING IT.

Efrem: WHAT DOES THAT

INVOLVE?

PICKING UP TRASH,

WHATEVER THE CITY NEEDS,

IT IS NOT CHILLING.

Efrem: JAMES AND HIS

WIFE, CHERYL, ARE LEGALLY

SEPARATED AND CAN HAVE NO

CONTACT FOR THE NEXT FIVE

YEARS.

SHE ISN'T SPEAKING

PUBLICLY, BUT ISSUED THIS

STATEMENT TO HIM IN COURT:

"I HOPE IN ALL OF THIS,

YOU GET HELP, SERIOUS

HELP.

ALTHOUGH THIS PROBATION

MIGHT BE LIKE A SLAP ON

THE WRIST, I HOPE YOU LOOK

AT IT AS A MOMENT TO

BETTER YOURSELF AND CHANGE

SOMETHING WITHIN YOU FOR

YOUR FUTURE."

> IN TERMS OF WHAT

HAPPENED, THERE ARE

REPORTS THAT YOU THREW HER

AGAINST A WALL, HIT HER

WITH A STOOL, THREW HER

OUT OF THE HOUSE.

WERE THERE ANY BROKEN

BONES?

THERE WERE NO BROKEN

BONES.

THERE WERE NO INTERNAL

INJURIES.

THERE WAS NO BROKEN

PELVIS.

THOSE REPORTS ARE FALSE.

HER BEING BEATEN WITH A

STOOL IS FALSE.

I DID PUT MY HANDS ON HER.

I DID PHYSICALLY RESTRAIN

HER AND REMOVE HER FROM MY

ROOM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE

SAYING, DON'T TALK ABOUT

IT.

KIND OF JUST LET IT GO.

LET PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT

IT, HOPEFULLY, AND MOVE ON

WITH YOUR LIFE.

BUT AS I WAS PRAYING, MY

SPIRIT DIDN'T SIT WELL

WITH ME.

AND GOD WAS, LIKE, I WANT

YOU TO SHARE YOUR STORY

BECAUSE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

IS SOMETHING THE CHURCH

DOESN'T TALK ABOUT.

I'M SAYING, I WAS A

PERPETRATOR OF DOMESTIC

VIOLENCE.

I WAS AN ABUSER IN MORE

WAYS THAN ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW GOD

IS HEALING ME.

Efrem: INSTEAD OF

JUST BELIEVING AND

PRAYING, JAMES IS FULLY

INVOLVED IN THE HEALING.

SINCE THE 2014 ASSAULT, HE

HAS BEEN IN THERAPY, AND

ALLOWED OUR CAMERAS TO

FOLLOW HIM TO A MEETING.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE

NOW SINCE I'VE BEEN IN

THERAPY FOR ALMOST 18

MONTHS.

I THOUGHT DOM DOMESTIC

VIOLENCE WAS IF YOU HIT OR

SLAP YOUR WIFE.

BUT I FOUND OUT THERE ARE

18 FORMS OF ABUSE, AND

ONLY ONE OF THEM IS

PHYSICAL.

IT DIDN'T START WITH

PHYSICAL.

THAT NIGHT, THAT'S WHAT

CAUSED ME TO BE ARRESTED,

OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE WERE

OTHER FORMS OF ABUSE THAT

WAS A PERPETRATOR OF.

INTIMIDATION, MALE

PRIVILEGE.

Efrem: YOU'RE

CERTAINLY NOT A VICTIM IN

ALL OF THIS, BUT WHAT ALL

HAVE YOU LOST AS A RESULT

OF THIS?

YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A

NUMBER ON IT.

EVEN NOW THERE ARE SO MANY

CHURCHES WHO DON'T WANT ME

IN THEIR CHURCH.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE

ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY

MUSCULAMINISTRY.

A LOT OF CONCERTS WERE

CANCELLED.

AND WHO KNOWS THE CONCERTS

THAT WERE POTENTIALLY

THERE WHERE PEOPLE SAY,

YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN'T

HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH

THAT NAME.

BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN MY

FOCUS.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I

DIDN'T EVEN THINK I WOULD

GET TO THIS PLACE TO FEEL

THE WAY I FEEL NOW.

THERE IS A PLACE WHERE IT

SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS NO

LIGHT AT THE END OF THE

TUNNEL.

Efrem: YOU WERE

SUICIDAL?

I STARTED OFF TAKING

ANTIDEPRESSANTS JUST TO

HELP ME SLEEP BECAUSE I

HADN'T BEEN GETTING ANY

SLEEP.

I WAS TAKING THEM TO

BASICALLY JUST GET SOME

REST.

I STARTED FEELING SO

GUILTY FOR WHAT I HAD DID,

BAD CHOICES I MADE IN MY

LIFE.

I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I HAD

ANYTHING TO LIVE FOR.

Efrem: YOU HAVE A

BOTTLE OF PILLS THAT

YOU'RE THINKING I'M GOING

TO TAKE AND JUST END IT

ALL.

YEAH.

Efrem: WHAT STOPPED

YOU?

SO MANY PEOPLE WERE

PRAYING FOR ME.

MANY PASTORS AND CHRISTIAN

LEADERS AROUND THE COUNTRY

AND THE AROUND THE WORLD

WERE REACHING OUT TO ME.

BUT YOU GET TO THE POINT

WHERE YOU'RE, LIKE, I

DON'T EVEN DESERVE

FORGIVENESS.

I'M OUT OF THE REACH OF

GRACE.

FOR ME, PERSONALLY, IT WAS

REMEMBERING MY

GRANDMOTHER'S PRAYERS,

PRAYING FOR ME AS A BOY.

AND GOD TOLD ME SOMETHING,

HE SAID, JAMES, PRAYERS

DON'T EXPIRE.

Efrem: WHAT HAS BEEN

THE MOST DIFFICULT PART?

FOR ME THE MOST

DIFFICULT PART IS THE

SEPARATION FROM MY FAMILY,

EVEN MY CHILDREN, TO NOT

KNOW EXACTLY WHY THEIR

FATHER IS NOT AROUND AS

MUCH AS HE USED TO BE.

AND TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT

TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW

THAT I JUST MADE A

HORRIBLE CHOICE.

Efrem: FORTUNE SPENT

SIX MONTHS SEPARATED FROM

HIS FOUR CHILDREN.

THESE DAYS HE IS WITH THEM

AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.

YOU POSTED ON SOCIAL

MEDIA, PLEASE PRAY THAT

DURING THIS PROCESS THAT

GOD CONTINUES TO PERFECT

AND RESTORE ME SO THAT

I'LL BECOME A BETTER MAN,

FATHER, AND CHRISTIAN.

YEAH.

Efrem: WHAT HAS THIS

PROCESS BEEN LIKE?

I'M GOING TO BE HONEST,

THE PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY,

VERY BEYOND MY

EXPECTATIONS.

MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED.

YEAH, IT STARTED OUT

ROUGH.

YEAH, I WAS SUICIDAL AND I

DIDN'T THINK I HAD

ANYTHING TO LIVE FOR,

DIDN'T THINK MY LIFE HAD

ANYMORE PURPOSE, YOU KNOW,

IT'S OVER, BUT TO SEE HOW

GOD IS ABLE TO KEEP ME.

EVERY DAY I KEPT GOING TO

SLEEP AND WAKING UP,

BELIEVING THAT CHANGE IS

GOING TO COME.

AS I SHARED WITH OTHER

PEOPLE WOULD GOD HAS BEEN

DOING IN MY LIFE, SO MANY

OTHER PEOPLE ARE REACHING

OUT.

AND SO MANY WOMEN ARE

SAYING, WE ALWAYS HEAR THE

VICTIMS TALK, BUT WE NEVER

HERE THE PERPETRATOR SPEAK

ABOUT WHERE THIS COMES

FROM AND WHY THIS HAPPENS,

AND HOW IT IS NOT THEIR

FAULT.

SO THE PROCESS HAS BEEN

SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SAY

WAS NECESSARY.

Efrem: AND THERE IS

STILL MORE WORK AHEAD FOR

JAMES FORTUNE AND HIS

FAMILY.

AND HOPEFULLY SOME DAY --

THIS KEEPS ME GOING.

Efrem: -- MORE MUSIC.

EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS,

HOUSTON, TEXAS.

Pat: IT IS AN AMAZING

STORY.

YOU KNOW, MY TAKE ON

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS WE

OUGHT TO HAVE ZERO

TOLERANCE FOR IT.

I THINK FOR A MAN TO BEAT

UP A WOMAN -- AND THEY DO

THAT IN SOME OF THESE

MUSLIM COUNTRIES.

THEY HAVE PERMISSION TO

BEAT THEIR WIVES.

THAT'S IN THEIR HOLY

BOOKS, THAT A MAN MAY BEAT

HIS WIFE.

I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

I THINK WE'RE EQUAL

PARTNERS TOGETHER IN THE

THINGS OF THE LORD.

AND THE WIFE IS SUPPOSED

TO BE GIVEN HONOR AS THE

WEAKER VESSEL.

BUT WIVES CAN BEAT UP ON

HUSBANDS, TOO.

AND SOMETIMES IT IS

SUBTLE, AND SOMETIMES IT

IS OVERT.

WE DON'T LOOK AT THE WOMEN

BATTERERS, BUT THERE ARE

PLENTY OUT THERE.

Terry: SADLY, BY THE

TIME THIS ISSUE COMES TO

LIFE, THERE IS PROBABLY A

LOT OF WATER THAT HAS GONE

OVER THE DAM.

WHAT I SEE IN THIS MAN IS

HUMILITY, TO NOT POINT HIS

FINGER AT HIS WIFE OR EVEN

OTHERS IN HIS PAST, BUT TO

SAY, LORD, WHAT DO YOU

NEED ME TO DO?

Pat: WHO KNOWS WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY IS A

LITTLE KID, HOW THEY GET

ABUSED BY THEIR PARENTS

AND THEIR FATHERS, MAYBE

OTHER SIBLINGS.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT

RESENTMENT IS BUILT UP.

IT JUST BEGINS TO BUBBLE

OUT.

AND THE PERSON CLOSEST TO

THEM IS THEIR SPOUSE.

WHEN THEY'RE BEHIND CLOSED

DOORS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN

THIS RAGE BUILDS UP.

IN MY OPINION, ZERO

TOLERANCE.

AND HELP, YES.

FORGIVENESS, YES.

REHABILITATION, YES.

BUT ZERO TOLERANCE.

TERRY?

Terry: UP NEXT, A

DRUG-DEALING GUN RUNNER

WITH A DEADLY DILEMMA.

THERE IS NO WINNING ON

EITHER DECISION.

TODAY YOU MAY BE KILLED OR

YOU MAY HAVE TO KILL

SOMEBODY ELSE.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

Terry: HEAR HOW HIS

DILEMMA WAS FINALLY

RESOLVED BY A VOICE FROM

INSIDE A PRISON CELL.

Pat: WELL, YOU'RE

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

WILLIE LAMONACO THOUGHT HE

WAS GOING CRAZY.

THIS COLD-BLOODED GUN

RUNNER KEPT HEARING A

VOICE INSIDE HIS PRISON

CELL, TELLING HIM OVER AND

OVER TO DO ONE THING.

LOUIE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO

PEACE, DAY OR NOT, UNTIL

HE AGREED TO DO IT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE

TRUSTWORTHY.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE NOT A

SNITCH.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE TOUGH.

Reporter: GROWING UP

ON THE STREETS OF

BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA,

LOUIE DIDN'T CARE WHAT HE

HAD TO DO TO GET ACCEPTED.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE

WILLING TO DO SOME THINGS

THAT MAYBE OTHER GUYS

AREN'T WILLING TO DO,

THAT'S THE PART OF

CLIMBING UP THE LADDER.

WHEN YOU SHOW THAT, YOU

START GETTING FAVOR AND

TRUST.

Reporter: HIS FATHER

LEFT WHEN HE WAS ONE.

BY THE TIME HE WAS IN HIGH

SCHOOL, SEVERAL

STEPFATHERS MADE THEIR WAY

IN AND OUT OF HIS LIFE.

NONE OF THEM SHOWED ANY

AFFECTION.

IT WAS THE MALE FIGURE

COMING INTO MY LIFE AND

THEN LEAVING.

AT ONE POINT, YOU SAY, I'M

GOING TO PUT UP A WALL.

Reporter: THAT CAME

ON CHRISTMAS, WHEN HE WAS

15 YEARS OLD.

AND MY THIRD

STEPFATHER, WHO HAD BEEN

IN THE HOUSE THE LONGEST

AT THIS POINT, CAME AND

GAVE MY SISTER A CHRISTMAS

PRESENT AT MY AUNT'S HOUSE

AND DIDN'T GIVE ME

ANYTHING AND DIDN'T

ACKNOWLEDGE ME AT ALL,

AFTER WE HAD BEEN TOGETHER

NINE YEARS.

THAT WAS THE DAY I SAID,

IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

WHAT HAPPENS TO ME

ANYMORE.

Reporter: SO LOUIE

DROPPED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL

AND STARTED HUSTLING,

STEALING, AND DEALING

DRUGS FOR MONEY.

BY HIS EARLY 20s, HE HAD

A LENGTH CRIMINAL RECORD

THAT INCLUDED ROBBERY,

ASSAULT, AND DEALING

DRUGS.

HE ALSO HAD MONEY, STREET

CREDIBILITY, AND THE

RESPECT OF GANG MEMBERS.

BUT HE SAYS SOMETHING WAS

MISSING.

YOU HAVE MONEY, YOU

HAVE NICE CARS, AND AS YOU

PUT ON THIS FRONT OF YOU

MIGHT BE TOUGH, BUT INSIDE

YOU'RE EMPTY.

Reporter: TRYING TO

FILL A VOID, LOUIE FOUND A

WAY TO MAKE MORE MONEY

RUNNING GUNS ACROSS STATE

LINES IN EXCHANGE FOR

DRUGS.

BUT WITH EACH DEAL, HE

THOUGHT MORE AND MORE

ABOUT THE COST HE WOULD

ULTIMATELY PAY.

I HAD TO SIT BACK AND

SAY, NOW THIS COULD GO

BAD, AND HOW AM I GOING TO

MAKE SURE I'M NOT GOING TO

GET KILLED TODAY.

THERE IS NO WINNING ON

EITHER DECISION.

TODAY YOU MAY BE KILLED OR

YOU MAY HAVE TO KILL

SOMEBODY ELSE.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

YOU KNOW YOUR MIND IS SO

GONE ON THE STREETS, THAT

THIS EVEN MAKES SENSE TO

SOMEBODY.

YOU KNOW THAT YOU NEED A

CHANGE, A BIG CHANGE, AND

YOUR LIFE IS LOST.

Reporter: AT AGE 29,

LOUIE WAS ARRESTED AND A

PLEA BARGAIN GOT HIM THREE

YEARS.

WHILE SERVING TIME, HE

THOUGHT ABOUT THE

DIRECTION HE HAD TAKEN IN

LIFE.

I ACHIEVED EVERYTHING I

WAS LOOKING FOR.

I'VE GOT SCARS ALL OVER

ME.

I'VE GOT ETERNAL SCARS.

I'VE GOT THE BATTLE SCARS.

I'VE GOT THE FRIENDS WHO

ARE DEAD OR DOING LIFE.

YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU

ACHIEVE IT, IT IS NOT WHAT

YOU WERE LOOKING FOR.

Reporter: IN THE

SOLITUDE OF HIS PRISON

CELL, LOUIE SAYS HE HEARD

SOMETHING.

I HEARD A VOICE SAYING,

GO TO CHURCH WITH YOUR

GREAT GRANDMOTHER.

THAT'S ALL IT WOULD SAY

OVER AND OVER, THROUGHOUT

THE DAY OR THROUGHOUT THE

WEEK.

SO ONE DAY I DID TO SHUT

IT UP.

OKAY, I'LL GO.

Reporter: AFTER

SERVING HIS TIME, LOUIE

KEPT HIS WORD.

I I WA WAS IN A HALFWAY

HOUSE IN CALIFORNIA, AND

MY GRANDMA INVITED ME TO

CHURCH.

THE ATMOSPHERE WAS HEAVY.

AND IT WAS LOVE.

I REMEMBER COMING DOWN

ALMOST LIKE A CLOUD -- IT

JUST SET OVER ME.

AND THAT VOICE SPOKE TO ME

AND SAID, I'VE TAMED A LOT

TOUGHER THAN YOU.

SO I WENT DOWN AND GAVE MY

HEART TO THE LORD JESUS

CHRIST.

I FELT LIKE I HAD FREEDOM.

I FELT LIKE I WAS

FORGIVEN.

Reporter: LOUIE

STARTED BUILDING A LIFE

CENTERED ON CHRIST, AND

OVER THE YEARS BECAME THE

MAN, HUSBAND, AND FATHER

HE THOUGHT HE WOULD ALWAYS

BE.

YOU START TO BLOSSOM

INTO THE PERSON GOD

INTENDED YOU TO BE.

AND THE WEIRDEST THING IS

YOU NEVER REALIZED YOU

COULD BE THAT WAY.

Reporter: WITH A

DAUGHTER IN COLLEGE, HE

AND HIS WIFE ARE RAISING

HIS SON.

HE MAKES SURE BOTH THEIR

CHILDREN REALIZE THEY ARE

LOVED.

I ALWAYS GO IN AND TELL

THEM I LOVE THEM AND TELL

THEM I'M PROUD OF THEM.

BOTH OF MY KIDS HAVE SAID

HOW COME YOU DO THAT?

AND I SAID BECAUSE I NEVER

HAD IT WHEN I WAS A KID.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE

YOU KNOW THE LOVE OF JESUS

CHRIST.

Reporter: PEOPLE WHO

KNEW LOUIE BEFORE SAY THE

CHANGE IS REAL.

DENNIS STERK IS A FORMER

DETECTIVE RESPONSIBLE FOR

HIS ARREST.

TODAY HE CALLS LOUIE A

FRIEND.

IF YOU'VE KNOWN HIM

BEFORE AND YOU KNOW HIM

TODAY, YOU KNOW THE

CHANGE.

IT IS NOT ALL TALK.

LOUIE HAS CHANGED.

THE DAY I FOUND CHRIST

AT THE ALTER, AND THE

FREEDOM HE GAVE ME -- IF

THAT'S ALL HE EVER GAVE ME

AND I HAD ONLY, I'M OKAY

WITH THAT.

THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING

FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Pat: ISN'T IT

AMAZING?

WHAT A YOUNG BOY, A YOUNG

GIRL, WANTS?

ISN'T IT AMAZING?

NOT TOYS.

NOT BIG, ELABORATE

PARTIES.

IT'S LOVE.

YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO BE

LOVED.

YOUNG BOYS WANT THE LOVE

OF A FATHER.

YOUNG GIRLS WANT THE LOVE

OF A FATHER, THEY WANT THE

LOVE OF A MOTHER.

THEY WANT THE LOVE OF

PARENTS.

AND SO THIS SOCIETY, WHERE

WE HAVE THROW AWAY

MARRIAGES AND DIVORCE, NO

FAULT, AND MANY

STEPPARENTS AND ALL OF THE

REST OF IT -- LOUIE DIDN'T

FIND ANY LOVE.

HE COULD HAVE BEEN A

HORRIBLE PERSON.

OBVIOUSLY, HE WAS -- HE

FELL INTO SOME PRETTY

DEADLY STUFF.

AND IT WAS ILLEGAL, AND HE

GOT CAUGHT.

BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW LOVE.

AND I COUNSEL THE PARENTS,

LISTEN, HUG YOUR KIDS.

HUG THEM.

KISS THEM.

TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM.

DON'T BE AFRAID TO SHOW

AFFECTION.

CERTAINLY IF YOU THINK IT

IS NOT MANLY TO HUG

SOMEBODY -- YES, IT IS.

BIG, TOUGH GUYS CAN BE

TENDER TOWARDS THEIR

CHILDREN.

YES, HAVE DISCIPLINE.

DISCIPLINE IS A FORM OF

LOVE.

AND CHILDREN KNOW THAT.

IF THEY'RE MESSING UP AND

THE PARENT DOESN'T CORRECT

THEM, THEY THINK THE

PARENT DOESN'T LOVE THEM.

AND CORRECTION IS A FORM

OF LOVE.

SO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

TO HAVE MODERATE

DISCIPLINE WHEN YOU'RE A

PARENT.

BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, DO

SOMETHING WITH THEM.

SPEND TIME WITH THEM.

LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'VE GOT

TO SAY.

LISTEN TO THEIR PROBLEMS.

AND ENTER INTO, AS MUCH AS

YOU CAN, THEIR PROBLEMS

AND STRUGGLES.

AND MORE THAN ANYTHING,

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.

AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO --

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS TO

LET YOUR CHILDREN GRADUATE

FROM YOU INTO A

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.

SO THEY'RE OBEDIENT TO

YOU.

AND NOW YOU WANT THEM TO

BE OBEDIENT TO THE LORD.

AND THE BEST REFERRAL

YOU'VE GOT WHEN SOMEBODY

HAS A QUESTION IS TO SAY,

LET ME REFER YOU TO JESUS.

YOU ASK HIM, AND LET HIM

TELL YOU.

WHEN THEY LEARN THAT, IT

WILL BE AMAZING WHAT WILL

HAPPEN IN THEIR LIVES.

I WANT TO PRAY RIGHT NOW

FOR FATHERS AND MOTHERS

AND CHILDREN, LIKE LOUIE,

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME I

PRAY FOR FAMILIES.

I PRAY FOR FATHERS, SINGLE

FATHERS.

I PRAY FOR MOTHERS, SINGLE

MOTHERS.

I PRAY FOR MOTHERS AND

FATHERS TOGETHER.

I PRAY FOR THE CHILDREN IN

HOMES WHERE THERE IS NOT

ANY LOVE.

I ASK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

TO COME INTO THEIR HEART,

THAT THEY MAY KNOW THERE

IS A FATHER IN HEAVEN WHO

LOVES THEM UNCONDITIONALLY

UNCONDITIONALLY.

AND I THANK YOU, LORD,

THAT GOD IS LOVE, AND THAT

YOUR LOVE IS WITHOUT

BOUNDS OR LIMITS TOWARDS

ALL OF US IN THIS WORLD.

AND I RECEIVE THAT LOVE.

AND WE ASK THE LOVE FOR

PEOPLE WATCHING THIS

PROGRAM NOW, IN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

HERE IS TERRY.

Terry: WELL, STILL

AHEAD, MEET NATALIE JILL

AND SEE HOW SHE SHED

60 POUNDS AND BECAME A

FITNESS MODEL IN HER

40s.

NATALIE JOINS US LIVE,

AHEAD ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

I COULD GO HOURS AND

Terry: ALLISON IS

ONLY NINE YEARS OLD, AND

SHE HAS ALREADY LED MANY

PEOPLE TO CHRIST.

IT STARTED WITH A VISIT TO

A LOCAL CHURCH AND A

VIEWING OF CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK."

Reporter: 9-YEAR-OLD

ALLISON HAD NEVER SEEN

ANYTHING LIKE IT, A CHURCH

WHERE KIDS WERE SINGING

AND DANCING.

HER AUNT, INTO GOES TO THE

CHURCH, HAD INVITED HER.

MY AUNT HAD TALKED TO

ME ABOUT JESUS BEFORE, BUT

I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW MUCH

ABOUT HIM.

Reporter: BUT ALL OF

THAT CHANGED AFTER

ALLISON'S FIRST VISIT TO

THE "ORPHANS'

PROMISE"-SUPPORTED

MINISTRY AT THE CHURCH.

ON HER SECOND VISIT,

ALLISON WATCHED THE

"SUPERBOOK" EPISODE "HE IS

RISEN."

THAT WAS THE DAY SHE

BECAME A CHRISTIAN.

I PRAYED AND IT FELT

LIKE JESUS WAS HOLDING ME

AND THAT HE WOULD TAKE

CARE OF ME.

Reporter: EVEN AT

NINE YEARS OLD, ALLISON

KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR

HER TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT

JESUS.

I TOLD MY MOM AND

FRIENDS THAT HEAVEN AND

HELL ARE REAL.

Reporter: ALLISON

THEN INVITED HER MOM TO

THE CHURCH, WHERE SHE

PRAYED TO BECOME A

CHRISTIAN, TOO.

I FELT SO HAPPY WHEN MY

MOM ACCEPTED JESUS.

I DIDN'T WANT HER TO BE

LOST.

Reporter: IT HAS ONLY

BEEN A MONTH SINCE ALLISON

STARTED COMING TO THIS

"SUPERBOOK" PROGRAM, AND

ALREADY SHE IS SEEING

OTHER FRIENDS SHE'S

INVITED PRAYING TO BECOME

CHRISTIANS, TOO.

THANKS FOR "SUPERBOOK."

AND THANKS FOR HELPING ME

TO KNOW JESUS.

Terry: "SUPERBOOK" IS

CHANGING THE LIVES OF

CHILDREN AND THEIR

FAMILIES AROUND THE WORLD.

YOU CAN BE A PART OF THAT,

TOO.

YOU CAN BE THE FIRST TO

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YOU DO THAT BY JOINING THE

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AND FRIENDS.

AND IF YOU JOIN NOW, WE'RE

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IT CONTAINS FOUR VIDEOS

AND EVEN A LESSON ON HOW

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JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK" CLUB

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IT WILL CHANGE THE LIVES

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MAYBE YOU WORK IN YOUR

CHURCH.

IT IS GREAT TO TAKE TO

CHURCH, TO SUNDAY SCHOOL,

AS WELL.

> COMING UP LATER,

FITNESS MODEL, NATALIE

JILL, SHOWS YOU HOW TO

UNPROCESS YOUR DIET.

SHE IS GOING TO WHIP UP

SOME RECIPES IN OUR "700

CLUB" KITCHEN, AND YOU

DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

THAT'S STILL AHEAD.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

THE SUPREME COURT THIS

WEEK DECLINED TO HEAR A

RELIGIOUS RIGHTS APPEAL

FROM PHARMACISTS IN

WASHINGTON STATE.

THEY SAY THEIR FAITH

FORBIDS THEM FROM

DISPENSING PLAN "B" OR

OTHER DRUGS THAT COULD

CAUSE AN ABORTION.

BUT THE WASHINGTON STATE

GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD THEM

THEIR LICENSES WILL BE

REVOKED IF THEY REFUSE TO

CARRY THE MORNING-AFTER

PILL.

NOW THAT THE SUPREME COURT

HAS REJECTED THEIR APPEAL,

THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY.

CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS

AND SAMUEL ALITO SAID THEY

WOULD HAVE HEARD THE

APPEAL.

HE WROTE A STINGING 15

PAGE DESCENT ON THEIR

POSITIVE SAYING "IF THIS

IS A SIGN OF HOW RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY CLAIMS WILL BE

TREATED IN THE YEARS

AHEAD, THOSE WHO VALUE

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM HAVE

CAUSE FOR GREAT CONCERN."

> A PALESTINIAN STABBED

A 13-YEAR-OLD ISRAELI GIRL

TO DEATH IN HER BEDROOM

EARLY THIS MORNING.

HE ALSO STABBED A SECURITY

OFFICER WHO ARRIVED ON THE

SCENE TO DEFEND THE GIRL.

THE OFFICER WAS IN SERIOUS

CONDITION.

ISRAELI POLICE SHOT AND

KILLED THE ATTACKER.

PALESTINIANS HAVE CARRIED

OUT DOZENS OF ATTACKS IN

THE LAST NINE MONTHS,

KILLING 33 ISRAELIS AND

TWO AMERICANS.

> REMEMBER YOU CAN

ALWAYS GET THE LATEST FROM

CBN NEWS BY GOING TO OUR

WEBSITE AT cbnnews.com.

PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB."

IT IS COMING UP RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Terry: NATALIE JILL

SAYS THAT ROCK BOTTOM IS A

GREAT PLACE TO REBUILD

YOUR LIFE.

WHEN NATALIE HIT ROCK

BOTTOM, SHE TURNED HER

LIFE AND HER HEALTH

COMPLETELY AROUND.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: NATALIE

JILL BECAME A FITNESS

MODEL AT THE AGE OF 39.

SEVEN YEARS AGO, SHE WAS

DEPRESSED, DIVORCED, AND

CARRYING AN EXTRA

60 POUNDS ON HER 5' 2"

FRAME.

IT WASN'T UNTIL SHE SAW

HERSELF IN A WINDOW SHE

DECIDED TO LOSE WEIGHT.

SHE QUIT EATING PROCESSED

FOOD.

NATALIE SHARES HER RECIPES

AND HER EASY TO FOLLOW

PLAN IN THE SEVEN-DAY

JUMP-START.

SHE OFFERS REAL SOLUTIONS

FOR LOSING WEIGHT AND

FEELING GREAT THAT WILL

LAST A LIFETIME.

Terry: PLEASE WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB," NATALIE

JILL.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

HERE.

THANKS.

IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

Terry: LET'S TALK

ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS

YOU SHARE IN YOUR BOOK AS

WELL.

THIS BEGAN AS A JOURNEY

BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME

HEALTH ISSUES AS A RESULT

OF HOW YOU WERE EATING.

YES.

YEARS AGO, BEFORE ANYONE

KNEW WHAT GLUTEN WAS OR

CELIAC DISEASE, I WAS

HAVING A LOT OF HEALTH

ISSUES WITH MY STOMACH,

LYMPH NODES BEING SWOLLEN.

I LEARNED I HAD CELIAC

DISEASE.

LITTLE DID I KNOW IT WOULD

LEAD TO SOMETHING LATER ON

THAT WOULD HELP SO MANY

PEOPLE.

Terry: SO OFTEN THEY

SAY WHEN WE HAVE ILLNESS

PHYSICALLY, IT BEGINS IN

WHAT IS CALLED THE GUT?

IT ABSOLUTELY DOES.

IT IS SO INTERESTING

BECAUSE I USED TO THINK

THAT EVERYTHING I WAS

EATING -- I JUST THOUGHT

MAYBE I'M EATING TOO MUCH.

VEGETABLES -- I THOUGHT IT

WAS TOO MUCH VEGETABLES,

TOO MUCH FIBER.

BUT IT WAS THE OPPOSITE.

IT WAS WHEAT, RYE, AND

BARLEY THAT WAS CAUSING

THE FLAREUPS.

Terry: WHEN WE WANT

TO LOSE WEIGHT, WE THINK

OF IT A NEEDING TO DIET.

WHEN REALLY THE APPROACH

IS NEEDING TO CHANGE OUR

LIFESTYLE.

YES.

Terry: YOU HAD A

GOAL, YOU WANTED TO BECOME

A FITNESS EXPERT.

YOU WERE IN YOUR 40s,

YOU WERE OVERWEIGHT AND

YOU HAD A BABY -- FIRST OF

ALL, WHERE DID THAT GOAL

COME FROM?

EATING GLUTEN-FREE AS A

CELIAC DIDN'T MEAN YOU

WERE EATING HEALTHY.

PEOPLE THINK WHEN IT IS

GLUTEN-FREE IT IS HEALTHY,

BUT IT COULD BE JUNK AND

THERE COULD BE A LOT OF

SUGAR.

SO WHEN I WAS PREGNANT, I

WAS GOING THROUGH A REALLY

ROUGH TIME IN MY LIFE.

FINANCIAL ROCK BOTTOM.

I WAS GOING THROUGH A

DIVORCE.

I HAD A LOT OF THINGS

HAPPEN AT ONE TIME.

I WAS GOING TO BE A NEW,

SINGLE MOM.

STRESS, DEPRESSION.

I FOUND MYSELF -- AFTER MY

DAUGHTER, I WAS 65 POUNDS

HEAVIER THAN I AM TODAY.

I DID WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE

DO, THEY SEARCH FOR

ANSWERS.

IT FELT OVERWHELMING AND

SCARY.

I DIDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR A

FANCY GYM.

I DIDN'T HAVE THE

KNOWLEDGE TO LOSE MY

WEIGHT.

AND EVERYTHING ON LINE WAS

JUST CONFUSING AND

OVERWHELMING.

Terry: AND ESPECIALLY

WHEN YOU'RE DEPRESSED.

SOMETIMES YOU FEEL LIKE, I

CAN'T GET THERE FROM

THERE.

I FELT LIKE IT WAS

IMPOSSIBLE.

SO I DUG ON LINE.

AND I DECIDED TO GET MY

CERTIFICATIONS LEARNING.

I FIGURED OUT A WAY TO

SIMPLIFY THING, WHICH NOT

ONLY GAVE ME MY ENERGY

BACK, AND GOT RID OF THAT

EXCESS BLOAT THAT WE ALL

EXPERIENCE WHEN WE'RE

UNHEALTHY, AND I STARTED

TO LOSE THE WEIGHT.

IT MELTED OFF AND IT

WASN'T HARD.

IT WAS CHANGING MY WAY OF

HOW I WAS EATING.

NOT DEPRIVING MYSELF, JUST

CHANGING HOW I WAS EATING.

Terry: YOU'VE GOT

SOME WONDERFUL RECIPES

FROM YOUR BOOK.

I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT

HOW YOU DID ALL OF THIS.

LET'S START BY SHOWING

PEOPLE SOME OF WHAT YOU

CREATED.

YOU TALKED A MINUTE AGO

ABOUT BEING GLUTEN-FREE

AND COULD STILL BE EATING

PROCESSED FOODS.

EVERYTHING TODAY IS NOT

UNDER THE CATEGORY.

I'M A FAN OF HOW IT IS

GROWN.

INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU

CAN'T HAVE THESE THINGS,

I'M GOING TO SAY LET'S

FOCUS ON MORE OF THE GOOD

FOODS, AND LET'S MAKE FOOD

FEEL RICH AND GOOD AND

YUMMY.

Terry: LET'S START

WITH THE SMOOTHIE.

SMOOTHIES CAN BE

INCREDIBLY UNHEALTHY.

DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ADD.

MINE OR FRUIT BASED, BUT I

WILL ADD CHIA SEEDS.

HERE I'M USING PATEA,

WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN

ASIAN STORES, OR DRAGON

FRUIT.

AND YOU CAN FIND IN ANY

GROCERY STORE PATEA IN

PACKAGES.

IT MAKES BEAUTIFUL

SMOOTHIES.

Terry: BECAUSE IT IS

IN ITS NATURAL FORM, NO

PROBLEM?

ALL NATURAL FOODS THAT

I BLEND TOGETHER.

Terry: WHAT IS THIS?

I'M NOT A FAN OF BUYING

PACKAGED PROTEIN BARS

BECAUSE THEY GET VERY

PROCESSED.

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN

MAKE NATURAL.

IT CAN BE A MEAL

REPLACEMENT OR A SNACK.

I USE THINGS LIKE ALMOND

FLOUR AND CHIA SEEDS AND

COCONUT TO MAKE UP THESE

YUMMY PROTEIN BARS.

RAW CACAO I USE.

ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE

HEALTHY FAT, WHICH MAKES

YOU FEEL FULL, WHICH IS

GOOD FOR THE BRAIN AND

HELPS YOU LOSE THAT

WEIGHT.

Terry: HERE, THIS

LOOKS SO YUMMY.

THIS IS CALLED THE

SUMMERY --

SALAD.

I LIKE ALL OF MY MEALS TO

HAVE A PROTEIN, CARB AND

FAT.

CARBS ARE FRUITS AND

VEGETABLES, TOO.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE

BAG GEL.

BAGEL.

I'VE GOT A MIX OF LETTUCE

AND SPINACH, AND I'VE GOT

SOME ASPARAGUS I ROASTED

AHEAD OF TIME.

AND YOU CAN USE SOME OIL

AND SALT AND PEPPER.

THE DRESSING IS SIMPLE,

WITH BALSAMIC VINEGAR,

PEPPER, A LITTLE BIT OF

AGAVE, AND WE USE THE

STRAWBERRY AND THE

WALNUTS, AND WE TOSS IT

ALL TOGETHER.

IT IS SUPER SIMPLE.

IT IS REALLY EASY.

I'VE GOT MY LETTUCE.

I LIKE THE DARK GREEN,

LEAFY LETTUCES.

YOU CAN USE OLIVE OIL OR

COCONUT OIL.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ROAST

THEM, YOU DON'T WANT TO

USE A LOT OF OLIVE OIL.

BUT YOU COULD USE COCONUT

OIL.

STRAWBERRIES ARE LOW GLYC

GLYCEMIC AND LOW IN SUGAR.

I'M GOING TO ADD MY

CHICKEN.

AND THE DRESSING IS SUPER

SIMPLE.

TOSS IN THE INGREDIENTS

AND WHISK THEM TOGETHER.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND WHISK

IT TOGETHER HERE.

THE PEPPER, AND THE

HIMALAYAN ROCK SALT.

Terry: COME ON, SALT.

TOP IT WITH THE CRUSHED

NUTS RIGHT HERE.

Terry: MORE?

JUST A FEW SECOND.

SUPER SIMPLE.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR CARB, YOUR

PROTEIN, AND YOUR HEALTHY

FAT, AND YOU STAY FULL FOR

HOURS.

YOU THINK SALAD, BUT YOUR

FULL FOR HOURS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY

CALORIES.

SO MANY SALADS USE TOO

MUCH CREAM.

Terry: IS THIS THE

FINISHED PRODUCT?

THIS IS THE FINISHED

PRODUCT.

YOU CAN DISPLAY IT A

LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT

IS A REALLY ENJOYABLE

SALAD.

YOU CAN USE THIS AS AN

APPETIZER OR A MEAL.

THIS IS THE PERFECT MEAL

TO BRING AS A GUEST.

IT IS SHRIMP, AND THERE

ARE LOTS OF YUMMY

VEGETABLES AND CELANTRO,

AND IT IS SUPER EASY TO

MAKE AND REALLY

SATISFYING.

Terry: FOR PEOPLE WHO

DON'T FEEL SATISFIED IF

THEY DON'T HAVE DESSERT --

THIS IS MY FAT-BURNING

CHOCOLATE MOUSE. MOUSSE.

IT IS MADE FROM AVOCADO.

IT IS THE WAS CACAO AND AF

AVOCADO.

IT IS HEALTHY FOR US.

Terry: WE TALKED

ABOUT SOME OF THE AMAZING

RECIPES.

YOU CAN SEE THEY ALL LOOK

ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS.

AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED

IN A LIFESTYLE CHANGE TO

BE HEALTHY, YOU WANT TO

GET THE BOOK AND IT'S

CALLED "NATALIE JILL'S

SEVEN-DAY JUMP-START."

AND THERE ARE TEST MOTHS

FROM PEOPLE WHMOTHS -- TESTIMONIALS FROM

PEOPLE WHO HAVE TREMENDOUS

SUCCESS FROM HER BOOK.

LOG ON TO

Facebook.COM/"700 CLUB"

AND YOU'LL FIND IT ALL

THERE.

THANK YOU, NATALIE.

THANK YOU.

Terry: UP NEXT, PAT

IS BACK IN THE HOT SEAT

FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF

"BRING IT ON."

ROBIN SAYS, "WHY ARE

CHRISTIANS GOING TO BE

JUDGED WHEN WE DIE, AND

FOR WHAT?"

STAY TUNED FOR PAT'S

ANSWER, COMING UP AFTER

THIS.

Terry: BEFORE WE

"BRING IT ON" WITH OUR

SEGMENT TODAY, I WANT TO

REMIND YOU TO CHECK OUT

OUR BEHIND-THE-SCENES

INTERVIEW WITH FITNESS

MODEL NATALIE JILL.

TO WATCH THAT GO TO

Facebook.COM/"700 CLUB."

OUR FIRST QUESTION IS FROM

ROBIN WHO SAYS, "WHY ARE

WE, WHO HAVE ACCEPTED

JESUS CHRIST AS OUR

SAVIOUR, STILL GOING TO BE

JUDGED AND FOR WHAT?"

Pat: IT IS CALLED THE

GREAT WHITE THRONE

JUDGMENT.

AND JESUS SAID, IF YOU

BELIEVE IN ME AND BELIEVE

IN THE ONE WHO SENT ME,

YOU HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE

AND YOU SHALL NOT COME

INTO THE JUDGMENT.

SO YOU'RE NOT INTO THAT.

BUT PAUL SAID, WE'LL ALL

STAND BEFORE THE BEMA TO

RECEIVE WHAT WE HAVE DONE

IN THE BODY.

WELL, RECEIVE WHAT HAS

BEEN DONE IN THE BODY MAY

BE GOD.

THE LORD MAY SAY, YOU'VE

DONE A GOOD JOB AND I WANT

TO GIVE YOU SOME REWARDS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BAD.

JESUS SAID, THE ONE WHO

KNEW THE LORD'S WILL AND

DIDN'T DO IT WILL RECEIVE

MANY STRIPES.

AND HE WHO DIDN'T NO WHAT

IT WAS AND WHO HAVE SINNED

WILL HAVE FEW STRIPES.

THERE WILL BE SOME

PUNISHMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO

SCREWED UP.

YOU DON'T HAVE A FREE RIDE

FOR THE NEXT 40, 50 YEARS

AFTER YOU ACCEPT THE LORD.

THAT'S THE WAY IT COMES

THROUGH.

WE'RE TO LIVE FOR HIM.

AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL

BE CROWNS.

YOU READ IN THE OLD

TESTAMENT ABOUT THOSE THAT

LEAD MANY TO THE LORD WILL

SHINE LIKE THE STARS.

THERE WILL BE GOOD THINGS,

NOT BAD.

Terry: THIS IS A

VIEWER WHO SAYS, "LUKE 9:

23 SAYS, IF ANYONE DESIRES

TO COME AFTER ME, LET HIM

DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP

HIS CROSS DAILY AND FOLLOW

ME.

WHAT DOES THIS TRULY MEAN?

NO FUN, NO FRIENDS?

I DON'T GET THIS

SCRIPTURE."

Pat: WE'VE GOT TO

HAVE FUN.

WHAT IT MEANS -- TAKE UP

HIS CAUSE IS TO SAY TAKE

UP THE ELECTRIC CHAIR,

THAT YOUR SUBJECT TO

DEATH.

IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T

ANY LONGER LIVE FOR

MYSELF.

I LIVE FOR HIS GLORY.

THAT'S THE IDEA.

IS THERE JOY?

OF COURSE THERE IS.

THERE IS JOY BEFORE THE

ANGELS OF GOD.

THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE LORD

WILL DANCE IN JOY.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

WITH HAVING A GOOD TIME AS

CHRISTIANS.

BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE

ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF OUR

LIVES ANYMORE.

IT IS LIKE TAKE UP YOUR

ELECTRIC CHAIR.

I'M ALWAYS SUBJECT TO

DEATH AND I HAVE TO

REMEMBER THAT.

Terry: HELEN SAYS,

"IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ONE

CHRISTIAN TO PREVENT

ANOTHER CHRISTIAN'S

PRAYERS FROM BEING

ANSWERED.

A WOMAN I USED TO BE

FRIENDS WITH SAID SHE HAS

BEEN PRAYING THAT SHE IS

ASKING GOD NOT TO GRANT ME

MY PRAYERS.

I THOUGHT MINDING PRAYERS

WAS ONLY FROM DEMONS."

Pat: I DON'T KNOW

WHAT KIND OF WOMAN THAT IS

THAT HAS BEEN PRAYING

AGAINST YOU.

YOU CAN HAVE

COUNTER-ACTIVE FORCES.

HOW, INDEED, IT WORKS, I

DON'T THINK I HAVE TIME TO

TELL YOU IF I KNEW.

I DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN

PRAY AGAINST YOU, AND YOU

HAVE TO BIND THAT.

SO IT IS NOT JUST DEMONS

AND IT'S NOT JUST BAD

THINGS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE A

CHRISTIAN PRAYING AGAINST

SOMEBODY ELSE.

HORRIBLE.

HORRIBLE TO HAVE PEOPLE

LIKE THAT.

BUT, ANYHOW, THOSE

PRAYERS -- YOU KNOW IT'S

SPIRIT AGAINST SPIRIT.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

LAMENTATIONS: "THROUGH THE

LORD'S MERCIES, WE ARE NOT

CONCERNED."

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

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