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The Brody File: The Fall Push - August 25, 2016

If Donald Trump is going to win the presidency, he'll need a record turnout from evangelicals. This week's show looks at new efforts underway to mobilize the faithful. Plus, an interview with presidential candidate Evan McMullin and the story ... Read Transcript


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David: AND WELCOME,

EVERYBODY, TO ANOTHER

EDITION OF "THE BRODY

FILE."

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE WITH US.

DONALD TRUMP, BY THE WAY,

BETTER HOPE EVANGELICALS

ARE WITH HIM COME ELECTION

DAY OR HE IS IN BIG

TROUBLE.

"THE BRODY FILE" BROKE

SOME NEWS THIS PAST WEEK,

WHEN WE REPORTED THAT THE

INFLUENTIAL AMERICAN

RENEWAL PROJECT IS

PLANNING THIS MASSIVE

"GET-OUT-THE-VOTE" EFFORT,

AIMED AT MOBILIZING

PASTORS AND THEIR

EVANGELICAL CONGREGATIONS.

THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN

GROUP IS HEADED UP BY

DAVID LANE.

THEY'VTHEY'VE RAISED NEARLY

$10 MILLION IN THE LAST

COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND MORE MONEY, BY THE

WAY, MAY BE COMING IN

SOON.

RIGHT NOW THE SIX STATES

THE AMERICAN RURAL PROJECT

ARE GOING TO TARGET,

FLORIDA, OHIO,

PENNSYLVANIA, VIRGINIA,

NORTH CAROLINA, AND IOWA.

I HOPE THAT ADDED UP TO

SIX.

THEY WILL LEAD UP TO THE

ELECTION, WITH THE FIRST

EVENT TO START SOME TIME

IN MID-TO-LATE SEPTEMBER.

DONALD TRUMP RECENTLY

SPOKE AT THEIR MOST RECENT

PASTORS AND PEWS' EVENT IN

ORLANDO, FLORIDA, AND HE

WILL BE INVITED TO SPEAK

AT THIS UPCOMING EVENTS AS

WELL, ALONG WITH THE VICE

PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE

MIKE PENCE.

TRUMP'S ABILITY TO CONNECT

WITH EVANGELICALS LIKE

THIS ARE GOING TO GO A

LONG WAY IN DETERMINING

WHETHER OR NOT HE BECOMES

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES.

> YOU KNOW, THE CENTRAL

THEME BEHIND THIS EFFORT

IS A NEED FOR SPIRITUAL

REVIVAL IN AMERICA, AND

THE MAN STIRRING THE DRINK

IS DAVID LANE.

IF YOU FOLLOW "THE BRODY

FILE," YOU KNOW HIM VERY

WELL.

JENNA BROWDER GOT TO KNOW

HIM DOWN IN ORLANDO, WHEN

SHE SPOKE WITH HIM

ONE-ON-ONE AT THE LAST

PASTORS AND PEWS' EVENT.

Reporter: DAVID LANE

JOINS US NOW.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING

ME.

Reporter: A BIG DAY

HERE.

A BIG DAY.

Reporter: A LOT WENT

INTO GETTING ALL OF THIS

TOGETHER.

TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE

BIT.

WE'VE BEEN MOBILIZING

PASTOR IT'S FOR 15 YEARS NOW,

PROBABLY.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER

EVENT.

WE'VE BEEN IN 18 STATES,

LARGELY UNDER THE RADAR.

WE PUT UP 18,000 PASTORS,

PLUS SPOUSES, AS OUR

GUESTS, LOVED ON THEM, FED

THEM THREE MEALS, AND

NEVER ASKING FOR A PENNY.

IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE

LIVING GOD, LOVING ON HIS

PEOPLE, HIS PASTORS THAT

HE HAS CALLED.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET -- TO

RESTORE AMERICA TO OUR

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE

AND REESTABLISH A

BIBLICALLY-BASED CULTURE

AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.

THIS IS PART OF THE

PROCESS.

Reporter: WHAT'S THE

IMPORTANCE OF AN EVENT

LIKE THIS?

ORY GOAL OUT OF IT IS

SOMEBODY'S VALUES ARE

GOING TO REIGN SUPREME.

THERE ARE 65 MILLION

EVANGELICALS, AND HALF ARE

NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE.

SO YOU'VE GOT 25% VOTING

AND OFF-YEAR ELECTION

YOU'VE GOT 12% VOTING.

IF WE'RE NOT

PARTICIPATING, PUTTING IN

MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD, MEN

AND WOMEN OF I ISACAR,

OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER SIDE

THAT ARE PUTTING THEIR

PEOPLE IN ARE GOING TO

REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST.

OUR GOAL SIMPLY IS TO

BRING MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD

AND BIBLICAL VALUES TO THE

PUBLIC SQUARE.

OUR GOAL, AGAIN, IS TO

RESTORE AMERICA TO A

BIBLICALLY-BASED CULTURE.

WE SAY IT RIGHT UP FRONT.

THIS IS THE WAY IT IS.

WE HAVE A RIGHT, LIKE

EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, TO

PARTICIPATE.

THERE IS FREEDOM OF

SPEECH, WE THINK.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE

SPEAKING.

Reporter: SPEAKING OF

FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ONE

THING I UNDERSTAND

MR. TRUMP IS GOING TO BE

TALKING ABOUT IS THE

JOHNSON AMENDMENT.

I'M TOLD HE IS GOING TO

BE TALKING ABOUT REPEALING

THE JOHNSON EVENT PUT IN

BY LYNDON B. JOHNSON TO

QUIET PEOPLE IN TEXAS WHO

WERE AGAINST HIM.

PASTORS FOR 300 YEARS

SPOKE ELECTION FROM THE

PULPIT.

THIS IS A RECENT THING

THAT HAS HAPPENED IN

AMERICAN HISTORY.

HE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT

THE REPEALING OF THE

JOHNSON AMENDMENT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM THAT

CHRISTIAN FLO FLORISTS AND

CHRISTIAN BAKERS GET TO

ALSO HAVE THEIR RIGHTS

REPRESENTED AS FREEDOM OF

RELIGION.

David: THAT IS JENNA

WITH DAVID LANE HERE ON

"THE BRODY FILE."

> ANOTHER MOVER AND

SHAKER IS DR. RUSSELL

MOORE.

HE HEADS UNTH UP THE ETHICS AND

RELIGIOUS COMMISSION,

WHICH REPRESENTS THE

SOUTHERN BAPTISTS.

AND HE IS INFLUENTIAL,

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES

TO SPEAKING OUT ON THE

CULTURAL, POLITICAL, AND

MORAL ISSUES OF THE DAY.

HE IS ALSO CONSIDERED A

BIT CONTROVERSIAL IN SOME

CIRCLES BECAUSE OF WHAT

THEY SAY IS HIS EMBRACE OF

THE SOCIAL SERVICE GOSPEL.

BUT ALL RUSSELL MOORE

WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IS THE

GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

WE SPOKE WITH HIM RECENTLY

DOWN IN NASHVILLE, WHERE

WE DISCUSSED THE CONCERN

FROM EVANGELICALS THAT THE

CULTURE IS MORALLY

SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL.

> THEY BELIEVE, SOME OF

THE WHITE EVANGELICALS --

THE FOLKS THAT ARE CALLING

FOR SPIRITUAL REVIVAL SAY

THEY SEE A CULTURE HERE IN

AMERICA THAT IS SPIRALLING

OUT OF CONTROL, AND WE

NEED TO BE ON OUR KNEES

AND REPENT FIRST.

AND AFTER THAT, THEY WANT

TO SEE A REVIVAL, IF YOU

WILL, TO A

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN-BASED

PRINCIPLED NETWORK HERE IN

AMERICA.

THE ONLY WAY THAT IS GOING

TO HAPPEN IS WITH GOD'S

HAND ON ALL OF THIS, FROM

A GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE.

NOT THAT GOVERNMENT IS THE

ANSWER.

BUT THEY WANT TO SEE IT

THAT WAY.

WELL, IN TERMS OF WHAT

YOU'VE JUST LAID OUT

THERE, I WOULD AGREE WITH

THAT, BASICALLY.

WHAT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH

IS THE IDEA THAT AMERICA

HAS EVER BEEN THAT.

I THINK THERE IS A

NOSTALGIC VIEW THAT SEES

THAT SOMEHOW WHAT WE HAD

IN AMERICA WAS GOSPEL

CHRISTIANITY THAT WE LOST.

MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD

BE, WHAT WE LOST IN TERMS

OF THIS CULTURE, WE DID

NOT LOSE IN THE 1960s OR

THE 1970s.

WE LOST IT SOMEWHERE

BETWEEN THE TIGRESS AND

EUPHRATES RIVERS AND

GENESIS 3.

WE'RE ALWAYS LIVING IN A

FALLEN TIME.

WE FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES

RIGHT NOW, BUT EVERY

GENERATION FACES UNIQUE

CHALLENGES.

SO OUR RESPONSE CANNOT BE

A PANIC.

IT CANNOT BE A HAND

WRINGING, AND IT CAN'T BE

A SENSE OF HOSTILITY AND

ANGER TOWARDS LOST PEOPLE

WHO DISAGREE WITH US.

THE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE

WITH US ARE OUR MISSION

FIELD.

SO WHEN WE ACT AS THOUGH

SOMEHOW WE'RE IN THE

SITUATION THAT IS

DIFFERENT FROM WHAT ANY

OTHER GENERATION OF

CHRISTIANS HAVE FACED,

WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING

TO GOD IS THAT SOMEHOW WE

DESERVE A BETTER MISSION

FIELD THAN THE ONE THAT HE

GAVE US.

GOD IS SOVEREIGN, AND HE

DECIDED WHEN WE WOULD BE

BORN AND HE DECIDED WHEN

WE WOULD BE BORN AGAIN.

HE PLACEDS US ON MISSION

IN THIS CULTURE WITH THIS

GOSPEL.

AND THE GOSPEL IS POWERFUL

ENOUGH TO EFFECT CHANGE.

SO THE LIGHT GOES INTO THE

DARKNESS.

THE DARKNESS DOES NOT AND

CANNOT AND WILL NOT

OVERCOME IT.

I THINK PART OF THE

PROBLEM IS THAT SOME

CHRISTIANS HAVE LOST

CONFIDENCE IN THAT.

AND WHEN THEY LOSE

CONFIDENCE IN THAT, SOME

OF THEM SIMPLY ACCOMMODATE

TO THE CULTURE.

SOME OF THEM JUST LASH OUT

IN A KIND OF -- IN A KIND

OF PERPETUAL RAGE AGAINST

THE CULTURE ON THE

OUTSIDE.

JESUS DOES NEITHER.

JESUS CALLS US TO

CONFIDENTLY, KINDLY,

CONVICTIONALLY, STAND UP

AND ARTICULATE WHAT IT

MEANS TO BE THE PEOPLE OF

CHRIST.

WHICH MEANS CALLING PEOPLE

TO REPENTANCE, BUT NEVER

STOPPING WITH THE CALL TO

REPENTANCE.

ALWAYS CONTINUING TO

BEHOLD THE LAND OF GOD WHO

TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE

WORLD.

Andrew: COMING NEXT,

HE IS RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT.

QUICK, WHAT IS HIS NAME?

JENNY AND THE "B" BLOCK

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

TIME TO MEET A

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE,

NOT TRUMP, NOT CLINTON.

MEET EVAN McMULLIN.

HE SAYS HE IS THE ONLY

TRUE PRO-LIFE CANDIDATE

RUNNING OUT THERE, SO HE

SEES HIMSELF AS A LOGICAL

PICK FOR EVANGELICAL

VOTERS.

HE STOPPED BY OUR BRODY

FILE STUDIOS.

MORE WITH JENNIFER WISHON,

A.K.A., JENNY AND THE "B"

BLOCK.

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YOU GO, GIRL *

Reporter: YOU SAY

YOU'RE STANDING UP TO RUN

FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE IT

IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO

THE RIGHT THING.

UH-HUH.

Reporter: WHAT DOES

THAT MEAN?

IT MEANS THAT THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE, I

BELIEVE, HAVE BEEN GIVEN

TWO TERRIBLE OPTIONS, IN

HILLARY CLINTON AND DONALD

TRUMP.

I THINK THEY ARE UNFIT FOR

RNSIBILITIES THEY

SEEK.

SOMEONE NEEDED TO STAND

UP, STAND UP FOR VALUES

THAT I THINK ARE JUST

ABSOLUTELY CORE TO WHAT

OUR COUNTRY IS AND TO ITS

PROSPERITY AND ITS

STRENGTH.

THAT WASN'T HAPPENING.

I HOPED SOMEONE WOUL ELSE WOULD

STEP FORWARD.

I LEARNED THAT WASN'T

GOING TO HAPPEN AND

ULTIMATELY DECIDED I

NEEDED TO GO AHEAD AND DO

IT.

Reporter: YOU'RE A

CONSERVATIVE?

I AM.

Reporter: YOU

CONSIDER YOURSELF A

REPUBLICAN?

FIRST I'M AN AMERICAN.

I LOVE THIS QUESTION

BECAUSE I LOVE TO MAKE

THISPOINT.

THIS POINT.

I'M AN AMERICAN FIRST.

THEN I'M A CONSERVATIVE.

THEN I THINK ABOUT PARTY.

Reporter: WHEN DID

YOU DECIDE YOU COULDN'T

SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP?

THIS IS A MAN WHO, I

THINK, WANTS TO DIVIDE OUR

COUNTRY RATHER THAN UNIFY

IT.

WE'RE WEAKER FROM AN

ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE AND A

NATIONAL SECURITY

PERSPECTIVE WHEN WE'RE

DIVIDED.

HE IS PREACHING

INTOLERANCE AND RELIGIOUS

BIGOTRY AND ETHNIC

BIGOTRY, ALL OF THESE

THINGS I FEEL THREATEN

THIS COUNTRY AND THREATEN

PEOPLE WHO ARE VULNERABLE,

I FEEL, IN THIS DAY AND

AGE TO ABUSE OF -- ABUSES

OF THEIR RIGHTS AND THEIR

FREEDOMS.

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IS A KEY

ONE.

Reporter: YOU TWEETED

JUST A FEW HOURS AGO THAT

DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T

UNDERSTAND RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY.

YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP

OUT THERE ATTACKING PEOPLE

OF THE MUSLIM FAITH.

AND HE ALSO ATTACKS PEOPLE

OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

HISPANICS.

I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.

I WAS RAISED IN THE CHURCH

OF JESUS CHRIST OF

LATTER-DAY SAINTS, A

MORMON.

WE HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING

PERSECUTED.

AND WE'RE SENSITIVE TO

THAT.

I CANNOT STAND BY AND LET

ANY PERSON WHO IS A STEP

AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY

TAKE CONTROL OF THIS

COUNTRY BECAUSE I BELIEVE

THAT SOMEBODY LIKE HIM

WOULD PERSECUTE PEOPLE OF

ALL FAITHS, INCLUDING

CHRISTIAN FAITHS.

Reporter: TELL US A

LITTLE ABOUT YOUR

EXPERIENCE IN THE C.I.A.,

WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO THAT

LINE OF WORK AND HOW THAT

HAS SHAPED THE TYPE OF

LEADER YOU HOPE TO BE?

I FELT I COULD SERVE

THE COUNTRY IN THAT WAY,

AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR

THE COUNTRY.

THIS IS PRE-9/11.

BUT ONCE I WAS PREPARING

TO GO TO THE FIELD, 9/11

HAPPENED.

AND I VOLUNTEERED TO GO

OVERSEAS IN A VARIETY OF

COUNTERCLANCOUNTERCLANDESTINE ROLES.

Reporter: WHAT DO YOU

THINK IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE

FACING AMERICA AND HOW

WOULD YOU TACKLE IT AS

PRESIDENT?

THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO

BE UNIFIED.

IT HAS BEEN DIVIDED TOO

LONG.

I THINK OUR NATIONAL

SECURITY AND OUR

PROSPERITY IS TANGEABLY

DAMAGED BY THE DEVISIVE

POLICIES OF DONALD TRUMP

AND HILLARY CLINTON.

UNDERNEATH THAT MACRO

PROBLEM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE

A HANDFUL OF OTHERS THAT

ARE VERY SERIOUS.

NATIONAL SECURITY IS ONE.

GETTING AMERICANS BACK TO

WORK.

WE NEED THIS ECONOMY TO BE

ONE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL

AMERICANS AT EVERY LEVEL

IN THE SOCIOECONOMIC

RANGE.

AND THE LAST ONE IS

GOVERNMENT REFORM.

WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT

BELIEVES IT IS

UNACCOUNTABLE TO THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE.

IT IS INFRINGING UPON OUR

RIGHTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

IT IS TOO CENTRALIZED HERE

IN WASHINGTON.

MORE RIGHTS TO BE RETURNED

TO THE AMERICANS'

REPRESENTATIVES IN

CONGRESS, AS WELL AS IN

THE STATES.

Reporter: AND YOU'RE

ON THE BALLOT IN FOUR

STATES: UTAH, COLORADO,

AND LOUISIANA --

YES.

AND WE'LL HAVE MORE STATES

COMING.

David: WHEN WE COME

BACK, IT IS NOT EASY BEING

GREEN.

JUST ASK JILL STEIN, THE

GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE FOR

PRESIDENT.

MORE ABOUT HER, NEXT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

FORGET ABOUT TRUMP OR

CLINTON.

LET'S BRING IN JILL STEIN,

RUNNING AS THE GREEN PARTY

CANDIDATE, AND SHE CAN BE

A PROBLEM FOR HILLARY

CLINTON.

BECAUSE MANY BERNIE

SANDERS' SUPPORTERS LOVE

HER.

SHE WANTS HEALTH CARE TO

BE A RIGHT, EDUCATION TO

BE A RIGHT, JOBS TO BE A

RIGHT, AND SHE WANTS TO

PROTECT, QUOTE,"MOTHER

EARTH."

SHE IS OUT THERE, FOR

SURE.

"THE BRODY FILE" iPHONE

CAPTURED HER ON CAMERA AT

THE CONVENTION IN PHILLY.

WE WERE IN FULL STALKING

MODE.

HAVE A LOOK MPLEGHT.

>. WHAT IS DRIVING THIS?

LIKE THE DOMINANCE OF

THE BANKS.

LIKE THE WALL STREET

MELTDOWN THANKS TO

DEREGULATIONS.

WHO GAVE US THOSE

POLICIES?

THE CLINTONS WERE LEAVING

THOSE WAYS ON THE

POLICIES.

Reporter: HOW WOULD

DONALD TRUMP DO?

THERE IS LIBERALISM,

PUTTING ANOTHER ONE OF

THOSE IN THE WHITE HOUSE

HOUSE --

[INAUDIBLE]

AT THIS TIME, WHAT DO

YOU THINK OF DONALD TRUMP?

WE NEED TO STAND UP TO

DONALD TRUMP AND TO STAND

UP TO HILLARY CLINTON.

[TALKING OVER EACH OTHER]

WE HAVE SEEN HOW THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS

TRAUMATIZED US.

David: JILL STEIN

HOLDING COURT NEAR THE

FOOD COURT.

THE GREEN PARTY BASICALLY

PROMOTES ENVIRONMENTALISM,

NON-VIOLENCE, SOCIAL

JUSTICE, GENDER-EQUALITY,

AND LEGEN LGBT RIGHTS.

WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT WHO

JILL STEIN BEAT OUT FOR

THE GREEN PARTY

NOMINATION.

THIS LIST IS IMPRESSIVE.

SHE OUTLASTED THE

FOLLOWING CANDIDATES, THE

JOLLY GREEN GIANT, MEAN

JOE GREEN FROM THE

PITTSBURGH STEELERS,

SHECKY GREEN -- BEATING

OUT COMEDIANS.

MR. GREEN FROM THE GAME OF

"CLUE," AND THE GREEN

LANTERN.

VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT YOU

CAN TAKE ON THE GREEN

LANTERN AND WIN.

> COMING UP NEXT, HE IS

NOT YOUR ORDINARY JOE.

THE STORY OF HOW JESUS

TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND IN

THE BACK SEAT OF A POLICE

CAR.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO THE SHOW,

EVERYBODY.

BOY, HAVE WE GOT A STORY

FOR YOU.

A TALE OF DRUGS, PRISON,

RAP MUSIC, POLITICS, THE

RELIGION OF SECULARISM,

REDEMPTION, AND, OF

COURSE, THE ALMIGHTY JESUS

CHRIST IN THE CENTER OF IT

ALL.

JOE SAWAT HAS QUITE THE

STORY TO TELL.

CURRENTLY HE IS PART OF

THE RENEWAL TEAM WITH THE

GOAL OF GETTING PASTORS

AND THE CHURCH ON FIRE AND

ENGAGED WHEN IT COMES TO

FIGHTING FOR

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES

HERE IN AMERICA.

HOW HE GOT TO THAT POINT

IS PRETTY COOL.

HAVE A LOOK.

TO THE NAKED EYE, YOU

WOULD THINK THAT JOE

STARTED OFF LIFE PRETTY

GOOD.

TWO LOVING, SUCCESSFUL

PARENTS, MAKING A PRETTY

GOOD LIVING AS

PSYCHOLOGISTS, BUT MORAL

RESTRAINT WAS LARGELY

ABSENT IN THE HOME, AND

FREEDOM WAS PLENTY FULL.

PLENTIFUL.

AND SO AT THE AGE OF 12,

JOE GOT CAUGHT WITH

MARIJUANA.

ONE THING LED TO

ANOTHER, AND IT LED TO

SOME PRETTY SERIOUS STUFF,

I WAS WRITING

PRESCRIPTIONS, AND I GOT

INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT

TYPES OF ELEMENTS IN THE

PARTY LIFE, IN NEW JERSEY

AND NEW YORK, AND RUNNING

DRUGS FROM HARLEM DOWN

INTO CENTRAL JERSEY.

BUT REALLY THE

PRESCRIPTION FORGERY WAS

THE BIG THING FOR ME.

David: HIS PARENTS

SENT HIM TO A REHAB CENTER

IN CALIFORNIA, BUT JOE

LEFT AFTER A WEEK.

AND THAT'S WHEN HE GOT

CAUGHT UP IN THE

METHAMPHETAMINE INDUSTRY

AND IT GOT BAD, REALLY

BAD.

WHAT I SAW, YOU

COULDN'T DESCRIBE IT.

YOU JUST COULDN'T DESCRIBE

IT.

IT WAS METAPHYSICAL EVIL.

IT WASN'T JUST KIND OF

WRONG OR UPSETTING OR

RELATIVELY WRONG, THERE

WAS SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY

DARK ABOUT WHAT I SAW.

Reporter: STILL, HE

CONTINUED IN THAT WORLD

AND GOT ARRESTED AGAIN.

HE SPENT EIGHT MONTHS IN

PRISON.

ONCE HE GOT OUT, IT TOOK

JUST TWO MONTHS BEFORE HE

WAS ARRESTED AGAIN.

THEN ON THE WAY TO THE

SLAMMER, HIS LIFE CHANGED

FOREVER.

I WAS SO GONE, SO DONE,

I REMEMBER BEING IN THE

BACK OF A POLICE CAR AND

JUST THIS OPPRESSION THAT

CAME OVER ME.

I HAD BEEN ON METH FOR A

COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT IT

WASN'T JUST THE DRUG.

IT WAS I WAS AT THAT

BREAKING POINT IN MY LIFE.

EVERYTHING HAD BEEN

STRIPPED AWAY FROM ME, AND

I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING

DEVOURED BY THE WORLD.

IT WAS AT THAT POINT IN

TIME WHERE SOMETHING IN MY

MIND SAID, IF YOU DON'T

GIVE YOUR LIFE TO GOD

RIGHT NOW -- AND NOBODY

HAD WITNESSED TO ME OR

TOLD ME ABOUT THE

CHRISTIAN FAITH -- IF YOU

DON'T GIVE YOUR LIFE TO

GOD RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE

GOING TO BE DONE.

THIS IS YOUR BREAKING

POINT.

SO I SAID, GOD, IF YOU'RE

REAL, DO SOMETHING,

PLEASE.

THE NAME OF JESUS, RIGHT

THERE IN THE BACK OF THAT

POLICE CAR, FORMULATED IN

MY MIND AND HEART.

IT WAS, LIKE, JESUS.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS

PEACE JUST DESCENDED RIGHT

OVER MY BODY.

I WAS ENVELOPED IN THE

PEACE OF GOD.

IT WAS SUCH A REAL

EXPERIENCE.

WHEN I GOT OUT OF THE

POLICE CAR, THE COP LOOKED

AT ME AND SAID, YOU'RE NOT

THE SAME PERSON I JUST PUT

IN THE CAR.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

IT WAS MY FIRST WITNESSING

EXPERIENCE.

I WAS, LIKE, IT IS JESUS.

AND HE SAID, MAYBE YOU'RE

CRAZY.

David: HE WAS CRAZY

IN A GOOD WAY, CRAZY FOR

GOD.

BUT HE STILL HAD TO GO TO

JAIL FOR SIX MONTHS.

AND DURING THAT TIME,

THOUGH, HE READ THE BIBLE

EVERY DAY, STUDIED

APOLOGETICS, AND AFTER

GETTING OUT, HE WENT INTO

A CHRISTIAN MEN'S

DISCIPLESHIP HOME, AND

THERE GOD LED HIM THE

CALLING ON HIS LIFE.

I FELT CALLED TO BE

PREPARED IN THAT MEN'S

HOME, THAT I WAS GOING TO

BE SOME KIND OF

INSTRUMENT, TO BE A

MOUTHPIECE TO TAKE DOWN

THIS WORLD VIEW OF SECULAR

HUMANISM.

GOD WAS GOING TO USE ME,

AND ALL OF THE MESS THAT I

BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, TO

USE CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS

TO DISMANTEL SECULAR

HUMANISM.

GOD REVEALED TO ME IT WAS

A RELIGION IN THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.

YOU WERE CAUGHT NOT JUST

BY SOME KIND OF ABSTRACT

WORLD VIEW, YOU WERE

ENSNARED BY A RELIGION

THAT PUTS MAN AT THE

CENTER OF EVERYTHING.

David: OFF HE WENT

TO BIBLE COLLEGE AND THE

SEMINARY, AND GOD CALLED

HIM TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE

BY SONG, RAP, TO BE EXACT.

AND SO HERE HE IS TODAY,

JOE THE APOLOGETICS

RAPPER, SINGING A NEW

TUNE, USING CHRISTIAN AL AP

APOLOGETICS.

HE SPEAKS AT LARGE PASTOR

EVENTS AND CHURCHES AND TO

THE YOUTH OF THIS COUNTRY.

HIS WEBSITE, WE ARE WATCH

MEN," USES THAT MESSAGE TO

MOBILIZE AMERICAN

CHRISTIANS TO DO THEIR

CIVIC DUTY AND WAKE UP.

HE IS ESPECIALLY

PASSIONATE ON THE LIFE

ISSUE.

THERE IS NO OTHER WAY

TO SEE THIS EXCEPT FOR THE

ABSOLUTE GENOCIDE OF THE

MOST INNOCENT AMONG US IN

THE MOST DEFENSELESS

POSITION.

MY PRAYER IS THAT I CAN BE

OF SOME KIND OF

INSTRUMENT, SOME KIND OF

WEAPON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS

AGAINST IT.

SOME KIND OF BEACON OF

LIGHT AND TRUTH AGAINST

IT.

AND THAT GOD WOULD SPARK A

REVIVAL AS A RESULT OF

THIS GRAVE SIN.

SOMETIMES IT TAKES

SOMETHING THIS BIG FOR THE

CHURCH TO WAKE UP, BUT THE

PULPITS ARE NOT REALLY

AWAKE ON THIS ONE YET.

WE SAY WE'RE PRO-LIFE, BUT

SHOW ME, HOW PRO-LIFE ARE

YOU?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO END

THE AMERICAN ABORTION

HOLOCAUST.

I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT

IT.

David: TODAY GOD IS

USING THAT PASSION IN

JOE'S LIFE FOR HIS GLORY.

IT IS A STORY OF

REDEMPTION THAT HAS

A VERY

HAPPY ENDING, THANKS TO

THE LIVING SAVIOR, JESUS

CHRIST, WHO WANTS TO LOVE

EVERY ONE OF US JUST THE

WAY HE DID WITH JOE.

BY THE WAY, JOE'S STAGE

NAME IS "JOE'S STORY."

HE USES THAT NAME BECAUSE

ONE OF THE JUSTICES IN THE

1800s WAS NAMED JOSEPH

STORY, AND HE BELIEVED

THAT THE BIBLE HAD THE

IDEAL PRINCIPLES TO LIVE

OUT LIFE IN THE PUBLIC

SQUARE.

FASCINATING.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE BRODY FILE."

WE'RE READY TO GO TO COVER

THIS WILD PRESIDENTIAL

ELECTION DOWN THE HOME

STRETCH.

HERE COMES THE PROMOTION:

FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, ON

Facebook, ON INSTAGRAM.

WE'RE ADDICTED TO SOCIAL

MEDIA, AND, YES, WE'RE

RECEIVING CHRISTIAN

COUNSELLING AS WE SPEAK.

IN THE MEANTIME, JOIN US

FOR THE RIDE BECAUSE WE'LL

HAVE EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS

ALL ALONG THE WAY.

HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US.

WE'LL BE THERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US,

EVERYBODY.

UNTIL NEXT TIME, GOD BLESS

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