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The Brody File: Trump Plus God Equals What? - September 1, 2016

Former presidential candidate Michele Bachmann joins The Brody File this week to talk about how, "God raised up" Donald Trump to be the GOP nominee. Plus, a conversation with Dr. Russell Moore, an influential and controversial ... Read Transcript


David: AND WELCOME

BACK, EVERYBODY, TO "THE

BRODY FILE."

WE ARE GLAD YOU'RE WITH US

THIS WEEK.

HEY, WE BEGIN WITH DONALD

TRUMP SWIMMING.

THERE IS NO VIDEO, SORRY.

WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING

ABOUT HIM TAKING A DOUBLE

DIP IN THE DEEP END OF THE

POOL BECAUSE HE IS NOW

STARTING A DIALOGUE WITH

CHRISTIANS WHO ARE

ATTENDING PREDOMINANTLY

BLACK CHURCHES.

SO HE IS NOW ENGAGING WITH

THE IMPACT NETWORK.

THEY BILL THEMSELVES AS

THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN

OWNED AND OPERATED

NATIONAL CHRISTIAN

TELEVISION NETWORK IN THE

ENTIRE COUNTRY.

HE IS INTERVIEWING WITH

THEIR C.E.O., BISHOP WAYNE

T. JACKSON.

IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

TRUMP TO DISCUSS ISSUES

LIKE EDUCATION,

UNEMPLOYMENT, AND MAKING

OUR STREETS SAFE.

MAYBE IT IS APPROPRIATE

THAT TRUMP IS GOING TO BE

INTERVIEWED BY BISHOP

JACKSON BECAUSE HE HOSTS

THE SHOW "MIRACLES DO

HAPPEN," AND IT IS A

MIRACLE THAT TRUMP IS THE

G.O.P. PRESIDENTIAL

NOMINEE.

AND SPEAKING OF MIRACLES,

MAYBE DONALD TRUMP NEEDS

TO GET OUT THE FAIRY

GODMOTHER AND SOME OF THAT

PIXIE DUST SO HE CAN

APPROVE OR HELP GET BETTER

SUPPORT AMONG VOTERS WHO

ARE NOT WHITE.

LOOK AT THESE FIGURES.

TRUMP IS ONLY WINNING 15%

OF ALL NON-WHITES IN THE

COUNTRY.

WHEN IT COMES TO

AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THAT

FIGURE IS AT A PALTRY 5%,

AND THAT IS ROUNDED UP A

LITTLE BIT, PROBABLY.

OY-GEVALT.

AND TRUMP HAS PROBLEMS

SPECIFICALLY WITH CATHOLIC

VOTERS.

HE MIGHT NEED TO GO TO

CONFESSION BECAUSE LOOK AT

THESE NUMBERS.

HILLARY CLINTON GETTING

55% OF THE VOTE AMONG

CATHOLICS.

DONALD TRUMP HAS 32%.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW

IT WENT DOWN IN 2012,

BARACK OBAMA GOT 50%.

AND MITT ROMNEY AT 48%.

SO IT WAS AT LEAST

COMPETITIVE.

BUT THESE NUMBERS DO NOT

LOOK GOOD FOR TRUMP AT

ALL.

EVEN THOUGH TRUMP IS

STRUGGLING WITH CATHOLICS,

HE IS DOING MUCH BETTER

WITH EVANGELICALS, AND HE

IS GOING TO NEED TO GET

ABOUT 80% OF THEIR VOTE TO

HAVE A REAL SHOT AT

WINNING THE PRESIDENCY.

ONE OF HIS ADVISORS ON

EVANGELICAL ISSUES IS

MICHELE BACHMANN.

BOY, IS SHE WIELDING

INFLUENCE.

WE WENT OUT TO HER

BEAUTIFUL HOME IN

MINNEAPOLIS TO OBVIOUSLY

PARTAKE IN SOME FREE FOOD,

BUT ALSO TO TALK TO HER

ABOUT HER ROLE WITH THE

TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND HOW SHE

IS HELPING HIM OUT.

SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW GOD

HAS RAISED TRUMP FOR A

MOMENT LIKE THIS.

HAVE A LOOK.

> LET ME ASK YOU A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT DONALD

TRUMP.

YOU'RE ON THIS BOARD, AND

I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN

THAT, EXACTLY.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT ROLE,

FIRST OF ALL, ABOUT WHAT

YOU HOPE YOU CAN LEND YOUR

SUPPORT IN.

AND ALSO THIS FASCINATION

WITH EVANGELICALS AND

DONALD TRUMP.

EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO

EXPLAIN HOW EVANGELICALS

SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT

SOME OF THE MAGIC WAS?

ANY SENSE ON THAT?

I WAS DELIGHTED.

IT WAS A REAL HONOR TO ASK

TO BE A PART OF THE

EXECUTIVE ADVISORY

COMMITTEE.

IT IS A FAIRLY SMALL

COMMITTEE.

I'M A STRONG BELIEVER IN

JESUS CHRIST.

I CAME TO KNOW HIM WHEN I

WAS 16 YEARS OF AGE.

I WAS HONORED BECAUSE

PEOPLE SITTING ON THIS

BOARD ARE PEOPLE LIKE

FRANK GRAHAM, JERRY

FALWELL, JR., DAVID

JEREMIAH, RONNIE FLOYD --

YOU'VE GOT INCREDIBLE

BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST,

LEADING LIGHTS HERE IN THE

UNITED STATES, WHO SERVE

ON THAT BOARD.

I WAS HONORED TO BE ABLE

TO BE A PART OF IT.

OUR ROLE IS TO BE ABLE TO

PUT INPUT INTO DONALD

TRUMP WHEN HE IS A

CANDIDATE NOW FOR

PRESIDENT.

AND IF HE BECOMES

PRESIDENT, HOPEFULLY TO BE

ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK

IN ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE

CONCERNING PEOPLE OF FAITH

IN THE UNITED STATES.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS

ENUNCIATED AND ARTICULATED

BY DR. JAMES DOBSON IS THE

ATTACKS ON THE RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY THAT CHRISTIANS

ARE EXPERIENCING, AND HAVE

BEEN THROUGH THE LAST FEW

DECADES.

SO WE TALKED WITH DONALD

TRUMP ABOUT THAT.

WE MET AT TRUMP CORPORATE

EARLIER THIS SUMMER, AND

WE SHARED THOSE CONCERNS

WITH DONALD TRUMP.

THERE WERE PROBABLY ABOUT

20 OF US AROUND THE TABLE.

WE HAD ONE-ON-ONE TIME,

SHARING WITH HIM, AND

AFTERWARDS, HE MET WITH

ABOUT A THOUSAND OF US IN

A BALLROOM.

HE IS VERY OPEN.

ONE THING I THINK IS

IMPORTANT FOR YOUR CBN

VIEWERS TO KNOW IS WHAT

YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET

WITH DONALD TRUMP.

HE DOESN'T PUT ON FOR

ANYBODY.

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO.

HE IS WHO HE IS.

AND WHAT I REALLY, REALLY

LIKE ABOUT HIM IS THAT HE

HAS 1950s SENSIBILITIES.

BY THAT, I MEAN HE REALLY

DOES BELIEVE IN A STRONG

AMERICA BECAUSE HE GREW UP

BEING PROUD OF THE UNITED

STATES.

JOHN WAYNE AMERICA.

WHERE TODAY A LOT OF KIDS

ARE TAUGHT, UNFORTUNATELY,

THAT THE UNITED STATES IS

AN EVIL COUNTRY, AND THAT

SOMEHOW WE HAVE HURT THE

REST OF THE WORLD.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST

LIES THAT YOUNG PEOPLE

HAVE BEEN TOLD.

WE HAVE BEEN A FORCE FOR

GOOD.

NO COUNTRY IS PERFECT, BUT

WE'VE BEEN A FORCE FOR

GOOD THROUGHOUT TIME.

GOD HAS BLESSED US ALMOST

LIKE ANY OTHER NATION,

OTHER THAN THE JEWISH

STATE OF ISRAEL.

BUT TRUMP GETS IT.

AND THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN

UNDERPINNINGS OF THIS

COUNTRY REALLY CAME TO THE

FORE IN THE 1950S AND WERE

SEEN IN THE 1950s.

AND DONALD TRUMP IS NOT

ASHAMED OF OUR

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN

UNDERPINNINGS AS A NATION.

HE DOESN'T PRETEND TO

REALLY KNOW A LOT OF THE

DETAILS AND THE SPECIFICS

ABOUT THE BIBLE.

HE IS A BIG BUSINESSMAN.

THAT'S WHAT HE IS.

BUT HE HAS RESPECT.

AND HE TALKS ABOUT HIS MOM

AND HOW HE GREW UP A

PRESBYTERIAN, AND HIS MOM

TOOK HIM TO CHURCH AND

MADE SURE HE WAS IN SUNDAY

SCHOOL.

HE WAS CONFIRMED IN THE

PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

HE ALWAYS HOLDS UP HIS

MOM'S BIBLE.

SO I'M NOT CERTIFYING WHAT

HIS FAITH IS.

ALL I KNOW IS HE WAS

CHURCHED.

HE WAS BROUGHT UP IN A

CHURCH BACKGROUND.

HE RESPECTS AND LOVES HIS

CHURCH BACKGROUND.

AND HE HAS HAD INDECE HAD INTERACTION

WITH CHRISTIANS THROUGHOUT

HIS LIFE.

HE IS NOT OPPOSED TO

CHRISTIANITY.

David: COMING UP

NEXT, THE WHITE HOUSE ON

FIRE.

JEN ALOYISIUS GIVEJENNIFER WISHON GIVES US A

UNIQUE GLIMPSE INTO THE

WAR OF 1812, WHEN WE COME

BACK.

202 YEARS AGO, THE WHITE

HOUSE WAS ON FIRE.

I TRIED TO DO MY BEST

THERE.

ANY WAY, IT WAS A PINNACLE

MOMENT DURING THE WAR OF

1812.

JENNIFER WISHON SHOWS US

THE HISTORICAL

SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT DAY

WITH A LOOK AT THE

ORIGINAL WHITE HOUSE DOWN.

Jennifer: IT IS HARD

TO IMAGINE, BUT 202 YEARS

AGO, THE WHITE HOUSE WAS

ON FIRE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT

POLITICAL FIRE.

THE WHITE HOUSE WAS

ACTUALLY BURNING.

IT WAS THE WAR OF 1812.

PRESIDENT JAMES MADISON

HAD LEFT WASHINGTON TO

MEET WITH HIS GENERALS AND

HIS WIFE, FIRST LADY DOLLY

MADISON WAS LEFT HERE ALL

ALONE AS THE BRITISH

THREATENED TO INVADE

WASHINGTON.

I'M JOINED BY JAMES

HAMPTON COOKE, WHO HAS A

NEW BOOK.

JANE, SET THE SCENE FOR

US.

WHAT WAS DOLLY MADISON

DOING INSIDE THE WHITE

HOUSE 202 YEARS AGO TODAY.

202 YEARS AGO TODAY,

DOLLY MADISON WAS WAITING

FOR HER HUSBAND TO RETURN

FROM THE BATTLE FIELD.

SHE HAD A SPY GLASS AND

SHE WAS LOOKING OUT THE

WINDOWS, AND LOOKING FOR

ANY SIGN THAT HER HUSBAND

WAS COMING BACK TO THE

WHITE HOUSE AND THERE HAD

BEEN A VICTORY.

SHE HAD A HANDFUL OF

SERVANTS WHO WERE WITH

HER.

AND SHE DECIDED, I'M GOING

TO BE OPTMISTIC AND I'M

GOING TO ASK THEM TO SET A

DINNER, AND WHEN MY

HUSBAND COMES, HE'LL BE

TIRED AND THE OFFICERS,

AND THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND

HAVE A NICE MEAL.

SO SHE WAS MAKING

PREPARATIONS FOR A VICTORY

DINNER.

AND SHE NOTICED THAT MORE

AND MORE PEOPLE WERE

LEAVING, AND SOME MEN

GUARDING THE HOUSE THE DAY

BEFORE, THEY WERE GONE.

SO SHE WAS QUITE BY

HERSELF IN STANDING GUARD

AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

> IT'S HARD TO

UNDERSTAND AND PICTURE

THAT WASHINGTON, D.C. WAS

ALMOST A GHOST TOWN FOR A

WHILE.

AND THE INTENSITY AND THE

FEAR THAT PEOPLE HAD.

HER SISTER SENT HER MAIL,

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

I'M TRYING TO GET MY

BELONGINGS OUT OF HERE,

BUT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH

ROOM.

TELL ME WHAT YOUR PLANS

ARE.

BUT DOLLY WAS DETERMINED

TO WAIT FOR HER HUSBAND.

SHE WANTED TO SHOW

STRENGTH AND COURAGE IN

REALLY AN UNKNOWN.

Reporter: PRESIDENT

MADISON WAS WORRIED ABOUT

LEAVING HIS WIFE AT THE

WHITE HOUSE, BUT HE NEEDED

HER TO STAY, RIGHT?

THAT'S RIGHT.

HE ASKED DOLLY, DO YOU

HAVE THE FIRMNESS AND

COURAGE TO REMAIN HERE?

I NEED YOU TO PACK UP MY

PRESIDENTIAL PAPERS TO

MAKE SURE IF YOU DO NEED

TO EVACUATE, WE CAN GET

THOSE VALUABLE BELONGINGS

OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

SO THAT'S WHAT SHE DID.

SHE HAD ALL OF THESE

BEAUTIFUL GOWNS, THIS

GREAT CLOSET FULL OF

GOWNS, BUT INSTEAD OF

PACKING THOSE PERSONAL

BELONGINGS AND HIS

CLOTHING, SHE WAS PACKING

THE PRESIDENTIAL PAPERS,

THE OFFICIAL CABINET

PAPERS, AS THEY WERE

CALLED BACK THEN.

AND WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE

THINK IT IS POSSIBLE AMONG

THOSE PAPERS WERE HIS

NOTES FROM THE

CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.

AND YEARS LATER THOSE WERE

PUBLISHED.

AND IT'S THE BEST RECORD

WE HAVE OF OUR HOW

CONSTITUTION WAS FORMED.

David: ALL RIGHT.

WHEN WE COME BACK, MEET

THE WATCHDOG GROUP HOT ON

THE TRAIL OF HILLARY

CLINTON'S MISSING E-MAILS.

JENNA BROWDER TAKES US

INSIDE "JUDICIAL WATCH,"

NEXT.

BACK, EVERYBODY.

A NAME YOU'RE GOING TO

HEAR A LOT BETWEEN NOW AND

ELECTION DAY, "JUDICIAL

WATCH."

"THE BRODY FILE'S" JENNA

BROWDER IS ON THE CASE.

Reporter: NEW

INVESTIGATION IN THE CASE

OF HILLARY CLINTON'S

E-MAILS.

AN OLD FIRE GIVEN NEW

LIFE.

HILLARY CNTON'S

E-MAILS AGAIN THE TOPIC OF

A HEARING IN WASHINGTON

TODAY.

Reporter: NEARLY

15,000 MOREEMO MORE E-MAILS

UNCOVERED BY THE F.B.I.

IT IS THAT

INTERMINGLING OF INTEREST

AND DONATIONS AND FAVORS

BEING DONE.

Reporter: THIS LATEST

BATCH SHOWING CLOSE LINKS

BETWEEN HILLARY CLINTON'S

STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE

CLINTON FOUNDATION.

"JUDICIAL WATCH," THE

CONSERVATIVE WATCHDOG

ORGANIZATION.

Reporter: THE GROUP

BEHIND IT ALL, "JUDICIAL

WASH," A SMALL BUT

INFLUENTIAL WATCHDOG MADE

UP OF ONLY ABOUT 50

PEOPLE.

WE'VE BEEN BUSY.

AND IT IS AS A RESULT OF

OUR PERSEVERANCE AND OUR

LITIGATION.

Reporter: PRESIDENT

TOM FENTON HEADS UP THE

TEAM.

"JUDICIAL WATCH" IS A

NON-PROFIT EDUCATIONAL

FOUNDATION.

WE'RE NON-PARTISAN.

WE'RE NEITHER REPUBLICAN

OR CONSERVATIVE.

OUR GOAL IS TO EDUCATE THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR WHAT

ITS GOVERNMENT IS UP TO.

Reporter: HE SHOWED

US AROUND THE D.C. OFFICE.

AT WORK, MOSTLY LAWYERS

AND INVESTIGATORS

NOSE-DEEP IN LITIGATION.

THE GREAT OLD AMERICAN

SYSTEM ALLOWS US TO GET

ACCESS THROUGH THE COURTS,

IF THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T

TURN OVER THOSE DOCUMENTS.

SO THE GOVERNMENT IS

SOMETIMES FORCED TO TURN

OVER THINGS, LIKE THE

CLINTON E-MAILS, THROUGH

THE COURTS.

THE REST OF MEDIA ISN'T

TERRIBLY INTERESTED IN

GETTING OR IS UNABLE TO

GET AS WELL.

Reporter: "JUDICIAL

WATCH" SCOOPING "60

MINUTES," AND "20/20."

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW

OFTENTIMES WE'LL SEE

SOMETHING IN THE NEWS THAT

IS EXTRAORDINARY, AND

PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT

IT, BUT WE'RE THE ONLY

ONES ASKING THE FOLLOWUP

QUESTIONS TO THE

GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO

FIND OUT THE DETAIL.

Reporter: AND FOR

BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE --

WE SUED THE BUSH

ADMINISTRATION TWICE AS

MUCH AS WE SUED THE

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

BUT WE'VE HAD TO SUE THE

ADMINISTRATION HUNDREDS OF

TIMES TO GET ACCESS TO

GOVERNMENT RECORDS.

Reporter: DONALD

TRUMP HAMMERED CLINTON ON

THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT

WILL NOT GO AWAY.

Reporter: FOR THOSE

SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE TIMING

OF THE RELEASE OF THOSE

LATEST E-MAILS --

SHE TRIED TO SUPPRESS

THIS FOR YEARS, AND THE

COVERUP UNRAVELED.

A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTS

WERE GIVEN TO THE STATE

DEPARTMENT BY ABEDIN BACK

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2015, AND

WE'RE ONLY GETTING THEM

NOW.

Reporter: FENTON SAYS

WE CAN EXPECT MORE

REVELATIONS IN THE DAYS

LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION

AND EVEN AFTER.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON

PURSUING THE CLINTON

E-MAILS.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON

ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE

GOVERNMENT NO MATTER WHO

WINS, TRUMP OR CLINTON.

Reporter: AND THAT

MEANS FANNING THE FLAMES

TO STOMP OUT SECRECY SO IN

THE END THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE DON'T GET BURNED.

REPORTING FOR "THE BRODY

FILE," I'M JENNA BROWDER.

David: JENNA BROWDER

HERE ON THE BRODY FILE.

> MORE NOW WITH MICHELLE MICHELE

BACHMANN.

SINCE 2002 SHE HAS BEEN

SOUNDING THE ALARM ON HUMA

ABEDIN.

SHE BELIEVES IF HILLARY

CLINTON BECOMES PRESIDENT,

THE ENEMIES OF ISRAEL WILL

BE LIFTED UP.

THAT'S A QUOTE.

AND ALSO, SHE SAYS THE,

QUOTE,"ENEMIES OF BIBLICAL

CHRISTIANITY AND BIBLICAL

JUDAISM WILL BE AT RISK."

MORE FROM OUR INTERVIEW.

HAVE A LOOK.

HERE WE ARE IN 2016, AND

SHE COULD BE ONE STEP AWAY

FROM CHIEF-OF-STAFF FOR

HILLARY CLINTON, IF IT

TURNS OUT THAT WAY.

THE POINT IS, WHAT IS THE

MAIN CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE

AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF

HER CONNECTIONS WITH HER

MOM AND HER FATHER -- HER

LATE FATHER -- AND SOME

OTHER FOLKS.

WHAT IS THE MAIN CONCERN?

DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH

SECURITY CLEANERS AN CLEARANCE AND

SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES?

OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

SAYS YOU DO NOT GET A

SECURITY CLEARANCE IF YOU

HAVE FAMILY CONNECTIONS OR

RELATIONSHIP CONNECTIONS

THAT COULD IN SOME WAY IM

PERIL THE SECURITY OF THE

UNITED STATES FOR OBVIOUS

REASONS.

MY QUESTION WAS WHETHER

HILLARY CLINTON AND THE

STATE DEPARTMENT HAD

GRANTED HUMA ABEDIN A

SECURITY CLEARANCE.

WHY?

HUMA ABEDIN'S MOTHER WAS A

SENIOR MEMBER OF THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

AND HER MOTHER WAS A

SENIOR MEMBER OF THE

MUSLIM MOTHERHOOD.

HER FATHER WAS A Ph.D.

AND WAS TEACHING IN

MICHIGAN, AND THEY ASKED

THEM TO LEAVE MICHIGAN AND

TRAVEL TO SAUDI ARABIA AND

SET UP A MAGAZINE THAT

ULTIMATELY BECAME CALLED

"THE JOURNAL OF MINORITY

MUSLIM AFFAIRS."

WHAT THIS JOURNAL DID WAS

LOOK THE AT COUNTRIES THAT

WERE NOT ISLAMIC

COUNTRIES, AND THEY TRIED

TO PUSH THE ADVANCEMENT OF

SHAR'IA LAW IN COUNTRIES

THAT WERE NOT ISLAMIC.

SO YOU HAVE TO ASK

YOURSELF, WHAT WAS THE

PURPOSE OF THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD?

THE PURPOSE WAS TO

ESTABLISH ISLAMIC SHAR'IA

LAW EVERYWHERE.

HUMA ABEDIN'S PARENTS WERE

SENIOR MEMBERS IN THAT

ORGANIZATION, WITH THAT

PURPOSE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK

YOURSELF WHAT WAS THE

PURPOSE OF THE "JOURNAL OF

MUSLIM MINORITY AFFAIRS."

IN COUNTRIES WHERE MUSLIM

WAS NOT THE LAW OF THE

STATE, THEIR GOAL WAS TO

PUSH OR ADVANCE ISLAMIC

SHAR'IA LAW IN COUNTRIES

LIKE THE UNITED STATES.

THAT WAS THE FAMILY

BUSINESS.

THE BIBLE TELLS US, WHO WE

SURROUND OURSELVES WITH

MAKES A BIG DIFFERS IN WHO DIFFERENCE IN

WHO WE ARE.

HILLARY CLINTON'S NUMBER

ONE CHIEF AIDE SINCE THE

EARLY 1990s IS HUMA

ABEDIN.

David: BACK IN A

MOMENT WITH THE

INFLUENTIAL, TOXIC,

SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL

EVANGELICAL LEADER

DR. RUSSELL MOORE.

EVERYBODY.

HE IS ONE OF THE MOST

INFLUENTIAL EVANGELICAL

LEADERS IN THE COUNTRY,

WHEN IT COMES TO SPEAKING

OUT ON THE CULTURAL AND

MORAL ISSUES OF THE DAY.

HE IS CONSIDERED A BIT

CONTROVERSIAL IN SOME

CIRCLES, BUT ALL RUSSELL

MOORE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT

IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS

CHRIST.

YIPPEE, HAVE A LOOK.

DR. RUSSELL MOORE SEES

HIMSELF AS A

GOOD-OLD-FASHIONED

SOUTHERN BAPTIST.

TRADITIONAL VALUES,

FAMILY, AND MOST OF ALL

JESUS IS SUPREME IN HIS

LIFE.

HE PLACED US ON MISSION

IN THIS CULTURE WITH THIS

GOSPEL.

AND THE GOSPEL IS POWERFUL

ENOUGH TO EFFECT CHANGE.

David: AND DR. MOORE

IS MORE THAN DOING HIS

PART.

HE HEADS UP THE ETHICS AND

RELIGIOUS COMMISSION,

GUIDING THE MORAL ON

PUBLIC POLICY ON THE

COUNTRY'S LARGEST

PROTESTANT DENOMINATION.

THE MAIN THING IS I

HAVE TO TAKE TIME TO BE

ALONE WITH GOD AND TO BE

SHAPED BY THE SCRIPTURES

IN WAYS THAT DON'T HAVE

ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT

IS HAPPENING THAT

PARTICULAR DAY.

David: AND PLENTY IS

HAPPENING EVERY DAY, WITH

MOORE IN THE MIDDLE OF

MOST OF IT.

AS ONE OF DONALD TRUMP'S

BIGGEST VOCAL CRITICS, HE

TELLS CBN NEWS HIS BIGGER

CONCERN IS THE GROWING

EVANGELICAL SUPPORT OF

TRUMP.

I'M MORE CONCERNED

ABOUT THE WITNESS OF THE

CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST AND

WHAT HAPPENS TO US WHEN WE

AFFIX OURSELVES TO

POLITICAL FIGURES WHO HAVE

SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

David: BECAUSE OF

THIS, HE HAS WRITTEN THAT

HE DOESN'T EVEN LIKE TO

CALL HIMSELF AN

EVANGELICAL ANYMORE

BECAUSE, QUOTE,"THE WORD

ITSELF IS AT THE MOMENT

SUBVERTING THE GOSPEL OF

JESUS CHRIST."

MOORE'S TENDENCY TO PUSH

BACK HAS LANDED HIM PLENTY

OF CRITICS.

SOME SOUTHERN BAPTISTS

CALLED HIM OUT FOR JOINING

WITH AN ISLAMIC SOCIETY IN

NEW JERSEY, FIGHTING TO

GET A MOSQUE BUILT IN

THEIR TOWN.

DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE

IF JESUS CHRIST WERE HERE

TODAY, THAT HE WOULD

SUPPORT THIS AND HE WOULD

STAND UP AND SAY, LET US

PROTECT THE LIVES OF THOSE

BELL WORSHIPPERS?

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT,

DOCTOR MOORE.

David: AND HE HAS

BEEN TAKEN TO TASK FOR

SUPPORTING REFUGEES

SEEKING TO COMETO

AMERICA, AND THE NEED FOR

COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION

REFORM.

IT HAS LED HIS CRITICS TO

CALL HIM A SOCIAL JUSTICE.

I FIND WHEN PEOPLE

USUALLY BRING UP THE ISSUE

OF SOCIAL JUSTICE AS IT

APPLIES TO ME, IT IS

ALMOST ENTIRELY AND ALWAYS

ABOUT RACE.

OBVIOUSLY, I AM A

PRO-LIFE, PRO-MARRIAGE,

PRO-FAMILY,

PRO-HOME-SCHOOLING FATHER

OF FIVE, SPEAKING AGAINST

GENDER IDEOLOGY AND THE

TRANSGENDER MOVEMENT.

AND IN MANY WAYS, WHEN I

LOOK AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE

WHO SAY THAT, I'M WELL TO

THE RIGHT OF THEM.

David: HE IS FACED

WITH A UNIQUE CHALLENGE,

HE IS NAVIGATING IN A

DIFFERENT BACKGROUND

TODAY.

I'M OPERATING UNDER THE

FRAMEWORK THAT WE LIVE IN

A CULTURE THAT

INCREASINGLY IS DISTANT

FROM EVEN MEMORY OF A

CHRISTIAN GOSPEL.

David: AND SO

MOORE'S CHARGE IS NOT TO

BE CONNECTED TO ONLY ONE

POLITICAL PARTY, LIKE IN

THE PAST.

WE HAVE TO BE

CONSISTENTLY POINTING OUT

MORAL PRINCIPLES ROOTED IN

THE GOSPEL.

NOT SIMPLY THE PEOPLE WHO

WILL ONLY DO THAT WHEN

THERE IS PEOPLE ON THE

OTHER SIDE OF US

POLITICALLY.

David: AND MOORE

SAYS THAT MEANS IT IS TIME

FOR WHITE EVANGELICALS TO

UNDERSTAND THAT AMERICA IS

CHANGING.

THE QUESTION IS GOING

TO BE WHETHER OR NOT WHITE

EVANGELICAL AMERICA WANTS

TO SIMPLY WANT TO BE OLD,

ANGRY WHITE PEOPLE, WHO

ARE LONGING FOR THE

1950s OR THE 1980s, OR

IF WE WANT TO BE THE

PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE OUR

PRIMARY IDENTITY IS NOT

PEOPLE OF THE UNITED

STATES, BUT W ARE PRIMARY

IDENTITY IS FROM THE

BIBLE.

David: MOORE ASKS,

WHEN WAS IT SPIRITUALLY

EVER REALLY GOOD?

THERE IS NOSTALGIC VIEW

THAT SEES SOMEHOW WHAT WE

HAD IN AMERICA WAS GOSPEL

CHRISTIANITY THAT WE LOST.

MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD

BE, WHAT WE LOST IN TERMS

OF THIS CULTURE WE DID NOT

LOSE IN THE 1960s OR THE

1970s.

WE LOST IT SOMEWHERE

BETWEEN THE TIGRESS AND

EUPHRATES RIVERS IN

GENESIS 3.

WE'RE ALWAYS LIVING IN A

FALLEN TIME.

David: RUSSELL MOORE

HERE ON "THE BRODY FILE."

BACK IN A MOMENT.

BACK, EVERYBODY.

A QUICK REMINDER BEFORE WE

LEAVE, "THE BRODY FILE"

CREW READY TO RACK UP SOME

FREQUENT FLIER MILES, AS

WE COVER THE 2016

ELECTION.

CHECK US OUT ON THE

TWITTER, ON THE

Facebook, AND ON THE

INSTAGRAM.

WHY THE ACCENT?

WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE

AND WE REALLY HOPE YOU

COME ALONG FOR THE RIDE.

THAT DOES IT FOR THIS

WEEK.

UNTIL NEXT WEEK, GOD

BLESS.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

I'VE GOT TO GO.

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