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The Brody File: The Undercard - October 6, 2016

This week, our Jennifer Wishon reports from the VP debate in Farmville, Virginia. Plus, Jenna Browder sits down with the governor of North Carolina. He'll need evangelicals to come to his rescue. And a conversation with the main republican ... ... Read Transcript


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[RAP SINGING]

David: AND WELCOME,

EVERYBODY, TO ANOTHER

EDITION OF "THE BRODY

FILE."

GLAD YOU'RE WITH US.

WHERE DO WE EVEN BEGIN.

THERE IS A DEBATE AND THEN

A DEBATE.

IT IS CRAZY.

A MONTH OR SO TO GO BEFORE

THE ELECTION.

TIM KAINE, MIKE PENCE,

DUKING IT OUT IN

FARMVILLE, VIRGINIA.

MIKE PENCE LOOKING VERY

PRESIDENTIAL.

MAYBE 20/20, IF THE 2016

THING DOESN'T WORK OUT.

JENNY HAS A REPORT FROM

FARMVILLE.

Reporter: IT STARTED

AS AN EVEN MATCHUP, TWO

SKILLED DEBATORS, BUT IT

DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR

SENATOR TIM KAINE TO SHOW

HOW HE IS PREPARED TO BE

VICE INTERRUPTTER.

I WAS LISTENING TO THE

INSULTS COMING OUT OF

SENATOR KAINE.

IF YOUR SON OR MY SON

HANDLED THAT INFORMATION

THE WAY HILLARY CLINTON

DID, THEY WOULD BE

COURT-MARTIALED.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY

FALSE.

Reporter: PENCE

STAYED CALM, PROVING WHY

HE IS IMPORTANT TO THE

TICKET.

THE PRESSURE TO PERFORM

WAS ON HIM AFTER TRUMP'S

LACKLUSTER WEEK.

THEN IN THE FINAL MOMENTS

OF THE DEBATE, THE

CANDIDATES WERE ASKED

ABOUT THEIR FAITH.

IT IS SOMETHING THEY BOTH

TALK ABOUT MORE THAN THEIR

RUNNER MATES.

BUT WHEN GOVERNOR PENCE

SHARED HIS, THE GLOVES

CAME OFF AGAIN.

THE IDEA THAT A CHILD

ALMOST BORN INTO THE WORLD

COULD STILL HAVE THEIR

LIFE TAKEN FROM THEM IS

JUST A PROBLEM FOR ME.

I CAN'T CONSCIENCE ABOUT A

PARTY THAT SUPPORTS THAT.

WE SUPPORT ROE VS.

WADE.

AND WE DON'T THINK THAT

WOMEN SHOULD BE PUNISHED,

AS DONALD TRUMP SAID THEY

SHOULD, FOR MAKING THE

DECISION TO HAVE AN

ABORTION.

DONALD TRUMP AND I

WOULD NEVER SUPPORT

LEGISLATION THAT PUNISHED

WOMEN WHO MADE THE

HEARTBREAKING CHOICE TO

END A PREGNANCY.

WHY DID DONALD TRUMP

SAY THAT?

WE JUST NEVER WOULD.

LOOK, HE IS NOT A POLISHED

POLITICIAN, LIKE YOU AND

HILLARY CLINTON.

AND SO --

WELL, I WOULD ACCEPT --

Reporter: BOTH MEN

SAY THEY TAKE THEIR FAITH

SERIOUSLY.

FOR ME, MY FAITH

INFORMS MY LIFE.

I TRY TO SPEND A LITTLE

TIME ON MY KNEES EVERY

DAY.

Reporter: FOR KAINE,

A PERSON'S FAITH SHOULDN'T

DICTATE PUBLIC POLICY.

I TRY TO PRACTICE MY

RELIGION IN A VERY DEVOUT

WAY.

IN MY PERSONAL LIFE.

BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN

THIS FIRST AMENDMENT

ISSUE, WHERE WE DON'T

RAISE ANY RELIGION OVER

THE OTHER, THAT THE

DOCTRINES OF ANY ONE

RELIGION SHOULD BE

MANDATED FOR EVERYONE.

Reporter: THE FIRST

RULE IN VICE PRESIDENTIAL

DEBATES IS DO NO HARM.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE POLLS

SAY IN THE COMING DAYS.

JENNIFER WISHON, REPORTING

FROM LONGWOOD UNIVERSITY.

David: JENNIFER

WISHON, RECORDING FROM

FARMVILLE, VIRGINIA.

THE SITE OF THAT VICE

PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS

TO SAY.

IT IS DEFINITELY TIME FOR

A BRODY FILE COMMENTARY.

LOOK, INSTEAD ME TALKING

ABOUT WHAT I THINK ABOUT

RIGHT HERE IN THE STUDIO,

FORGET THAT.

LET'S GO T MY LIVE SHOT

AND "THE 700 CLUB" BECAUSE

THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT

UP.

Pat: DAVID, WHO

WON -- I DON'T THINK THERE

IS ANY QUESTION, BUT WHAT

DO YOU THINK?

David: I THINK IT

WAS A KNOCKOUT FOR MIKE

PENCE.

IT WAS A T.K.O.

I BELIEVE TIM KAINE NEEDED

THE SMELLING SALTS

AFTERWARD.

YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW TIM

KAINE WAS INTERRUPTING ALL

OF THE TIME, AND IT DIDN'T

BODE WELL FOR HIM.

AS YOU LOOK AT THE

DEMOCRATS AND THE LIBERALS

EVEN REACTING TO THIS,

THEY WEREN'T EVEN TOO

HAPPY WITH THE WAY KAINE

APPROACHED THIS.

BUT MORE THAN THAT, MIKE

PENCE WAS REALLY ABLE TO

WEAVE THAT CAMPAIGN

NARRATIVE, THAT DONALD

TRUMP CAMPAIGN NARRATIVE,

NOT JUST ABOUT MAKING

AMERICA GREAT, BUT THIS

UPLIFTING CONSERVATIVE

MESSAGE THAT DONALD TRUMP

WASN'T ABLE TO DO MUCH OF

IN THAT FIRST DEBATE, PAT.

Pat: WHAT DO YOU

THINK, DOWN THE ROAD --

HAVE YOU BEEN OUT ON THE

CAMPAIGN TRAIL?

ARE THERE HIDDEN VOTERS

THAT ARE GOING TO GO FOR

TRUMP THAT ARE NOT

DECLARING THEMSELVES YET?

David: YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK THERE IS A

CLOSET TRUMP VOTER OUT

THERE.

I REMEMBER JENNA BROWDER

AND I WERE IN NEW YORK THE

OTHER DAY, FOR THE LAST

TIME FOR THE DEBATE, AND

WE TALKED TO SOME FOLKS.

AND THEY'RE TELLING US,

SH, SH, SH, WE'RE A CLOSET

TRUMP VOTER IN CALIFORNIA.

IF YOU NOTICE, PAT, DONALD

TRUMP'S POLLING IS MUCH

HIGHER WHEN IT IS ONLINE

POLLING.

WHY IS THAT?

THERE IS ANONIMITY WHEN

WITS ONLINE.

SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE

A TENDENCY FOR A SHOCK ON

ELECTION DAY.

I WILL SAY THIS, IF THERE

IS A DEMOCRATIC STRATEGY

TALKING TO ME PRIVATELY,

CLOSE TO HILLARY CLINTON'S

CAMPAIGN, SAYS THEY'RE

DEFINITELY WORRIED ABOUT

THIS SILENT MAJORITY.

OLDER, WHITE, MALE VOTERS

WHO HAVE BEEN DISENCHANTED

IN THE PAST, AND MAY

INDEED COME BACK FOR

TRUMP, BUT AREN'T SAYING

MUCH NOW.

Pat: THE NARRATIVE I

HEARD LAST NIGHT FROM

KAINE, THAT THIS DEAL WITH

IRAN, WHICH WAS SO

TERRIBLY FLAWED -- THE

IRANIANS ARE GOING FULL

BORE.

SAYING HILLARY CLINTON

CAPPED THAT AND THEY'RE

NOT GOING TO BECOME

NUCLEAR, AND THEN HE SAID

THE ISRAELIS SUPPORTED IT.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT.

David: THERE WERE A

LOT OF FALSEHOODS LAST

NIGHT, AND THAT WAS ONE OF

THEM.

TIM KAINE SAID HILLARY

CLINTON STOPPED THE

NUCLEAR PROGRAM.

THEY SAID, INDEED, HILLARY

CLINTON HAS STOPPED THE

NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE IT WAS MEGYN

KELLY ON FOX NEWS WHO

SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, SHE

DIDN'T STOP THE NUCLEAR

PROGRAM AT ALL.

AND FOLKS WILL SAY MIKE

PENCE WAS SAYING A FEW

THINGS AS WELL.

BUT TIM KAINE WAS SAYING A

FEW THINGS ON IMMIGRATION,

WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT

HOW DONALD TRUMP WAS

TALKING, AS IT RELATES TO

IMMIGRATION, SAYING THAT

DONALD TRUMP WANTED TO GET

RID OF ALL LEGAL

IMMIGRANTS.

HE SAID HE WANTED TO GET

RID OF ALL ILLEGAL

CRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS.

David: DAVID,

THANKS.

GREAT ANALYSIS.

> WHEN WE COME BACK,

JENNA BROWDER ONE-ON-ONE

WITH THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH

CAROLINA.

CAN EVANGELICALS RESCUE

HIM?

EVERYBODY, TO THE BROTHER "THE BRODY

FILE."

TIME TO GO TO BATTLEGROUND

STATE, NORTH CAROLINA.

HUGE, AS DONALD TRUMP

WOULD SAY.

GOVERNOR PAT McCRORY UP

AGAINST IT.

BIG CHALLENGE DOWN THERE.

EVANGELICALS, IF THEY

DON'T COME TO HIS RESCUE,

IT IS GAME, SET, MATCH,

AND IT'S OVER.

HE HAS BEEN IN THE

HEADLINES BECAUSE OF THE

HB2 BILL, THE BATHROOM

BILL, IF YOU WILL.

Announcer: TONIGHT A

BLOCKBUSTER CLASH IS

BREWING OVER TRANSGENDER

RIGHTS AND NORTH

CAROLINA'S SO-CALLED

BATHROOM LAW.

A PROTEST HAS ERUPTED

IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH

CAROLINA.

THE SHOOTING OF KEITH

LA MONT SCOTT HAS SHAKEN

THE CITY OF NORTH

CAROLINA.

[YELLING]

Reporter: NORMALLY

YOU GO HOME TO ESCAPE IT

ALL, BUT EVEN HERO AT THE

GOVERNOR'S MANSION IN

NORTH CAROLINA, GOVERNOR

PAT McCRORY CAN'T ESCAPE

THE HEADLINES.

EVERYONE COMES UP TO ME

AND GOES, GOVERNOR, YOU

MUST HAVE INCREDIBLY THICK

SKIN, WHEN PEOPLE SAY

PRETTY CRUEL THINGS ABOUT

YOU AND EVEN MAKE THREATS.

AND THE FACT IS I DON'T.

Reporter: ONE OF THE

ISSUES, THE SO-CALLED

BATHROOM BILL.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, HOUSE

BILL 2 BECAME LAW,

REQUIRING NORTH CAROLINANS

TO USE THE LOCKERS ROOMS

AND BATHROOMS

CORRESPONDING TO THE SEX

ON THEIR BIRTH

CERTIFICATE, NOT THEIR

GENDER IDENTITY.

THEY SAY IT PROTECTS WOMEN

AND GIRLS FROM SEXUAL

PREDATORS.

LIBERALS SAY THE LAW

DISCRIMINATES AGAINST

TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.

THERE IS IMMENSE

PRESSURE TO REPEAL HOUSE

BILL 2.

HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED

DOING THIS?

NO, NOT BASED ON THE

CONCEPT OF CHANGING THE

CONCEPT OF GENDER.

AND HOUSE BILL 2 IS

ACTUALLY IRRELEVANT NOW

BECAUSE THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT HAS STEPPED IN

AND ORDERED THE DEFINITION

OF GENDER TO BE BASED UPON

EXPRESSION AND IDENTITY.

SO THIS WHOLE FOCUS ON ONE

BILL IS REALLY A

DIVERSION.

IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE

RECHANGED AFTER THE

ELECTION.

IT IS NOW A NATIONAL

ISSUE.

AND THE NATIONAL MEDIA HAS

NO IDEA, THE PEOPLE IN THE

PUBLIC HAVE NO IDEA, THAT

THIS ISSUE STARTED BY THE

LEFT IN THE CITY OF

CHARLOTTE BY A VERY

LIBERAL MAYOR.

Reporter: McCRORY

IS UP FOR RE-ELECTION AND

IT IS A TIGHT RACE.

HIS OPPONENT, ROY COOPER,

IS USING HOUSE BILL 2 TO

DRUM UP SUPPORT.

WE'VE SEEN NO

LEADERSHIP FROM OUR

GOVERNOR ON THIS ISSUE.

HE HAS DOUBLED DOWN ON

THIS BAD LAW, AS OUR STATE

HAS TAKEN HIT AFTER HIT.

IT IS A MAJOR CHANGE IN

OUR MORAL FABRIC.

AND IT DESERVES DEBATE AND

DESERVES DISCUSSION.

BUT THERE IS EVEN A LOT OF

PRESSURE ON CORPORATIONS.

Reporter: APPLE AND

PAYPAL ARE AMONG THE

CORPORATE GIANTS BACKING

OUT OF THE STATE, THOUGH

NOT ENTIRELY.

McCRORY SAYS A NUMBER

ARE STILL QUIETLY PURSUING

OPPORTUNITIES IN NORTH

CAROLINA.

GROUPS LIKE THE NCAA HAVE

ALSO PACKED UP SOME OF

THEIR OPERATIONS.

YOU'VE GOT TO DRAW THE

LINE SOMEWHERE.

THE ENTERTAINMENT WORLD IS

VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF THIS

AS WELL.

GEORGE CLOONEY, AFTER HE

CRITICIZED NORTH

CAROLINA'S BILL, HE WENT

TO CHINA TO PROMOTE HIS

MOVIE.

CHINA, WHO'S HUMAN RIGHTS

RECORDS ARE HORRIBLE.

Reporter: HOW MUCH

INFLUENCE DO EVANGELICALS

HAVE IN NORTH CAROLINA?

AND HOW IMPORTANT ARE THEY

TO YOUR BATTLE YOU FACE

HERE?

ONE THING I'VE TOLD A

LOT OF PEOPLE IS WE'VE GOT

TO HAVE THE SILENT MAJOR

TO QUIT WHISPERING.

THEY TALK TOO SOFTLY ABOUT

THEIR SUPPORT.

AND THEY NEED TO SPEAK OUT

NOW BECAUSE WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN AMERICA, AND

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN NORTH

CAROLINA -- THE ONLY

PEOPLE YOU HEAR FROM IS

THE MEDIA, OR FROM THE

PEOPLE PROTESTING IN THE

STREETS, ARE PEOPLE FROM

THE VERY FAR LEFT, WHO

DISAGREE WITH PEOPLE OF

FAITH IN MANY, MANY

ISSUES, BUT WE'RE NOT

HEARING FROM THE SILENT

MAJORITY.

THEY'RE TOO QUIET RIGHT

NOW.

AND THEREFORE THE

IMPRESSION OF THE

INDEPENDENT VOTER VOTER IS,

WELL, THE LOUD PEOPLE MUST

REPRESENT THE MAJORITY.

Reporter: THERE IS NO

DOUBT THE EYES OF THE

NATION WILL BE WATCHING

NORTH CAROLINA, TO SEE IF

EVANGELICALS HAVE ENOUGH

PUNCH TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE.

RIGHT NOW THE JURY IS

STILL OUT.

REPORTING FOR "THE BRODY

FILE," I'M JENNA BROWDER.

David: JENNA BROWDER

IN NORTH CAROLINA.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I WAS GOING TO SAY

SOMETHING ELSE.

> WHEN WE COME BACK,

CHAD CONNELLY -- LOOK,

THIS GUY IS RUNNING THE

REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

OUTREACH PROGRAM -- WILL

EVANGELICALS GET THERE FOR

DONALD TRUMP?

THE STORY, WHEN WE COME

BACK.

David: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE BRODY FILE."

TIME NOW FOR OUR

CONVERSATION WITH CHAD

CONNELLY.

HE IS THE FAITH OUTREACH

DIRECTOR OF THE REPUBLICAN

NATIONAL COMMITTEE.

WE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK

WITH HIM IN NORTH

CAROLINA.

HE IS SPEAKING TO HUNDREDS

OF CHURCHES AROUND THE

COUNTRY, TALKING TO

THOUSANDS OF PASTORS.

HE HAS A SENSE OF WHAT

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN

IT COMES TO THIS ELECTION

AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY

CAN GET BEHIND DONALD

TRUMP.

HERE IS SOME OF THAT

CONVERSATION.

David: YOU'RE ON THE

GROUND.

WHAT'S THE WORD ON THE

EVANGELICAL STREET?

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH

PASTORS?

I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF

STATES, SPECIFICALLY THE

BATTLEGROUND STATES.

I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF

PASTORS' CONFERENCES IN

BIGGER STATES, THAT

PASTORS FROM THE KEY

STATES COME FROM.

I THINK THERE IS A NEW

URGENCY OUT THERE.

PASTORS ARE STARTING TO

REALIZE, THIS IS A CHOICE

OF ONE OF TWO IMPERFECT

PEOPLE.

BUT I'VE GOT TO MAKE ONE

OF THOSE CHOICES.

RIDING IN A THIRD PARTY,

NOT AN OPTION.

David: SO HAVE YOU

SEEN SOME PASTORS START TO

MAKE A MOVE TOWARDS TRUMP,

OR AT LEAST TOWARDS THIS

AREA?

ABSOLUTELY.

David: YOU HAVE?

YES.

I DO A LITTLE ROUGH COUNT

IN MY HEAD, I'VE BEEN IN

COLORADO, VIRGINIA, NORTH

CAROLINA, OHIO, WEST

VIRGINIA, BASICALLY THE

KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES.

I THINK I'VE SPOKEN TO

RIGHT AT AROUND 1100

PASTORS IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A ROOM AND

YOU SEE A METHODIST PASTOR

AND A CATHOLIC PRIEST AND

SOME PENTECOSTALS, YOU'RE

THINKING, THIS THING IS

COMING TOGETHER.

David: I SPOKE TO A

PASTOR IN IOWA, WHO SAID,

I'M TRYING TO GET THERE, I

CAN'T GET THERE.

WHAT'S MY FLOCK GOING TO

THINK IF I'M GOING FOR

TRUMP.

WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE HAD

THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH

PASTORS.

WHAT IS THAT DISCUSSION

LIKE?

WHAT DO YOU SAY?

I STARTED OFF THIS JOB,

DAVID, THINKING AS A

CHRISTIAN, I WANT TO

IMPRESS UPON PEOPLE THE

IMPORTANCE OF THEIR

BIBLICAL OBLIGATION TO

VOTE.

WE SHOULD VOTE EVERY TIME.

BECAUSE CHRISTIANS SHOULD

BE IN SCHOOL BOARDS AND

COUNTY COUNCILS, ALL OF

THE ABOVE.

I UNDERSTAND THEY LOOK AT

IT AND GO, BOY, THIS

CANDIDATE MAY NOT LINE UP

WITH MY BELIEFS EXACTLY.

BUT ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE

TO REALIZE JESUS IS NOT ON

THE BALLOT ANYWHERE.

AND I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF

CLICHE, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS

VOTING FOR THE LESSER OF

TWO EVILS.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE

TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY BASED

ON SOMETHING.

I DON'T THINK THE LIES

HAVE EVER BEEN MORE

PREVALENT THAN THEY ARE

TODAY.

MR. TRUMP, CERTAINLY

WITHOUT QUESTION,

REPRESENTS THE THINGS WE

AS BELIEVERS STAND ON AND

STAND FOR, AND THE OTHER

PARTY DOESN'T.

David: THERE IS

ALWAYS A FRUSTRATION

EITHER WITH EVANGELICALS

NOT SHOWING UP OR -- I

MEAN, THEY CAN TIP THE

SCALES.

THEY ARE THE SILENT

MAJORITY.

HOW FRUSTRATING HAS THAT

BEEN FOR YOU?

LET ME PUT YOU ON THE

PSYCHOLOGICAL PATH A

LITTLE BIT.

SURE.

David: HOW DOES THAT

MAKE YOU FEEL?

I WAS ABOUT 12 WHEN I

REALIZED I BASED THINGS ON

MY OWN FEELINGS.

WHEN I GOT THIS POSITION,

BRIGHT PREVUS, WHO IS A

BELIEVER -- OUR

CONVERSATIONS CENTERED

AROUND THIS VERY THING.

THE EVANGELICAL VOTE --

EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT

CATEGORIZATION OF IT, BUT

HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE MOST

MISUNDERSTOOD AND

UNDERREPRESENTED VOTE.

30 MILLION VOTED IN 2012.

SIX MILLION OF THOSE

32 MILLION WHO CHANGED HIS

MIND ON MARRIAGE.

WHEN BARACK OBAMA SAID IT

WAS PART OF HIS CHRISTIAN

FAITH, HE SET THAT UP.

WHO BETRAYED US ON ISRAEL.

SO WHEN YOU START THAT

ONLY 30 COUPLE MILLION

VOTED, SOMEWHERE, NO

MATTER WHO DEFINES IT,

SOMEWHERE BETWEEN

40 MILLION AND 50 MILLION

PEOPLE SITTING IN CHURCHES

DON'T BOTHER TO VOTE.

THAT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO

ME AS A CHRISTIAN.

David: CHAD CONNELLY

HERE ON "THE BRODY FILE".

> WHEN WE COME BACK, AN

INTERVIEW WITH STARR

PARKER.

SHE IS CONSERVATIVE,

AFRICAN-AMERICAN, AND

PUSHING BACK ON THE

LIBERAL NARRATIVE WHEN IT

COMES TO THE WAR ON

POVERTY.

WE'RE BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE BRODY FILE."

SHE IS FIGHTING POVERTY

ONE POLICY AT A TIME.

MEET STARR PARKER, AT THE

CENTER OF URBAN.

AND HOW SHE IS WORKING TO

TEAR DOWN THE WALLS OF

POVERTY AND THE WELFARE

STATE.

HAVE A LOOK.

I THINK GOD SELECTED ME

BECAUSE MY PERSONAL STORY

WOULD MAKE AN IMPACT ON

PEOPLE STILL STRUGGLING

WITH WHO THEY ARE GOING TO

BE.

I BELIEVE THAT POLICY

SHAPES OPINION.

OPINION SHAPES BEHAVIOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT BEGAN TO

HAPPEN TO ME, BUT JUST

SIMPLY BELIEVING THE LIE

OF THE LEFT.

I HEARD THAT MY PROBLEMS

WERE SOMEBODY ELSE'S

THOUGHT.

THAT AMERICA WAS

INHERENTLY RACIST.

AND POOR PEOPLE WERE POOR

BECAUSE THE WEALTHY WERE

WEALTHY.

AND BELIEVING ALL OF THOSE

LIES EARLY IN LIFE, I WAS

ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL

ACTIVITY, AND DRUG

ACTIVITY, SEXUAL ACTIVITY,

IN AND OUT OF ABORTION

CLINIC AFTER CLINIC.

AND THEN FINALLY, I

THOUGHT, THERE MUST BE

SOMETHING WRONG WITH

KILLING YOUR CHILDREN.

I WAS PREGNANT AGAIN, AND

THAT'S WHEN I HAD A CHILD

OUT OF MARRIAGE AND ENDED

UP ON WELFARE PERMANENTLY

AT THAT POINT.

I WAS IN AND OUT OF THE

SYSTEM.

THAT'S HOW I PAID FOR ALL

OF MY ABORTIONS.

THAT'S HOW I KEPT MY

LIVELIHOOD GOING.

I WAS JUST REALLY OUT OF

CONTROL.

AND THEN I HAD THIS CHILD

OUT OF MARRIAGE, AND MET

SOME CHRISTIAN PEOPLE.

AND AFTER A CHRISTIAN

CONVERSION, I JUST CHANGED

MY LIFE AND BEGAN ON THE

COURSE FOR MORE

RESPONSIBILITY.

I THEN WENT TO COLLEGE.

I GOT MY DEGREE.

AND I ENDED UP IN

BUSINESS.

AND AFTER THE '92 RIOTS

DESTROYED MY BUSINESS IN

LOS ANGELES, I KNEW I

WASN'T ALONE WHEN IT CAME

TO PEOPLE THAT JUST GOT

LOST.

SO I FELT THAT MAYBE I CAN

MAKE A CONTRIBUTION, NOT

JUST IN INDIVIDUALS'

LIVES, I STILL WORK WITH

WOMEN STRUGGLING THROUGH

WELFARE, BUT ALSO IN

PUBLIC POLICY.

IF WE CHANGE POLICY, MAYBE

WE CAN CHANGE BEHAVIORS,

ABOUT WHAT THE REAL ANSWER

TO POVERTY IS.

10 YEARS AGO, I CAME TO

WASHINGTON, D.C. AND

STARTED BUILDING A POLICY

INSTITUTE.

WE LOOK AT MARKET-BASED

SOLUTIONS TO FIGHT POLICY.

WE ADDRESS ISSUES OF RACE

AND POVERTY THROUGH A

CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE

PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE HAVE THREE CENTERS.

WE HAVE A MEDIA CENTER, SO

WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT

THAT THE ANSWER TO POVERTY

IS FREEDOM AND PERSONAL

RESPONSIBILITY.

IT IS NOT A WELFARE STATE.

WE HAVE A CLERGY NETWORK

SO WE CAN INFORM PASTORS

ABOUT WHAT HAS BROKEN

DOWN, THE DAMAGE OF THE

WELFARE POLICIES IN THEIR

COMMUNITIES, AND WHAT

NEEDS TO BE DONE TO FIX

IT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A

PUBLIC POLICY CENTER,

WHERE WE WORK HERE ON

CAPITOL HILL, WITH

LEGISLATORS THAT ARE

LOOKING TO CHANGE THE

DYNAMICS OF WHAT WE'VE

BEEN DOING IN WELFARE.

WE SPEND OVER $900 BILLION

A YEAR ON WELFARE TESTED

PROGRAMS.

$22 TRILLION HAS BEEN

INVESTED IN THIS WAR ON

POVERTY SINCE THE '60s,

AND THE POVERTY RATE

HASN'T CHANGED.

WE'VE BROKEN FAMILY LIFE

BY SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE'S

POOR BEHAVIORS.

THERE IS A DISPAIR THAT

THERE IS A LACK OF

SELF-INITIATIVE AND

INCENTIVE TO SET GOALS

WHEN YOU'RE IN A SYSTEM

THAT SAYS WE'RE GOT THE

ANSWERS.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR

LIFE.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE

RULES OF WELFARE: DON'T

WORK, DON'T SAVE, DON'T

GET MARRIED, AND WE'LL

KEEP YOU ENSLAVED TO THIS

POVERTY PLANTATION.

AND YOU LOSE YOURSELF.

I'VE HAD TO TELL MANY

WOMEN THAT THEIR FATE IS

NOT THEIR DESTINY.

THE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES

THEY WERE BORN INTO DO NOT

HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW THEY

DIE.

IT IS A MATTER OF SETTING

GOALS FOR YOUR LIFE.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS

LAUNCHING AN INFORMATION

SOURCE.

WE ALREADY HAVE A BLOG,

BLACK COMMUNITY NEWS.COM.

AND WE'RE ADDING MORE

CONTENT SO WE CAN GIVE A

REGULAR DIET TO THAT BLACK

CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE SO

THEY CAN HAVE MORE

UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN PUBLIC

POLICY.

BECAUSE PUBLIC POLICY

SHAPES OUR PUBLIC OPINION.

AND PUBLIC OPINION SHAPES

OUR PRIVATE BEHAVIORS.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE ONE

MILLION ABORTIONS IN THIS

COUNTRY IF A POLICY DIDN'T

CHANGE.

THE POLICY SAID THERE IS

NOTHING WRONG WITH KILLING

OUR OFFSPRING.

AND THE NEXT THING YOU

KNOW, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE

DOING IT.

WE ARE STARTING A

TELEVISION SHOW TO GIVE

OUR TARGET GROUP A REGULAR

DIET OF INFORMATION, SO

THEY CAN MAKE BETTER

CHOICES.

SO WE CAN BE A VOICE TO

THEM HERE IN WASHINGTON.

David: STARR PARKER

HERE ON "THE BRODY FILE."

GOOD CONVERSATION.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE BRODY FILE".

> BEFORE WE LEAVE YOU,

WE WANT TO SAY THIS HAS

BEEN A CRAZY ELECTION

SEASON.

I'M GOING TO SEND ALL OF

MY CHRISTIAN THERAPIST

BILLS TO DONALD TRUMP.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL

PAY FOR IT.

MAYBE THEY'LL BE

AUDITED -- JUST KIDDING.

CHECK US OUT, WE'RE ALL

OVER THE PLACE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE

GOING NEXT.

JUST KEEP IT HERE.

WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WHERE?

TWITTER, Facebook,

INSTAGRAM.

SHOULD WE GET ON SNAPCHAT?

WE'LL BE EVERYWHERE, TRUST

US.

WHEN IS THIS CAMPAIGN

SEASON GOING TO BE OVER?

THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.

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