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News on The 700 Club: November 15, 2016

As seen on "The 700 Club," November 11: What cabinet picks say about direction of the Trump administration, Oregon official who fined Christian-owned bakery loses election bid, and more. Read Transcript

PAT ROBERTSON: The President-elect

has got to pick a cabinet, and it looks like his friend

Guili-- Rudy Giuliani is in the lead role

for the Secretary of State.

You know, I endorsed him some years ago-- got a lot of heat

for doing it-- when he was running for president.

But he cleaned up New York.

He was mayor of New York, and you need somebody

with that kind of experience.

The State Department is a big, sprawling empire,

and it has resisted presidents.

John F. Kennedy said the State Department

wouldn't listen to him.

Harry Truman said Eisenhower was going

to be surprised because they don't listen to him.

When Reagan wanted to do that "Mr. Gorbachev tear down

the wall" speech, the State Department

did everything they could to take that line out

of his speech.

They look like they're scared of their shadow.

And they have resisted moving the American embassy in Israel

from Tel Aviv-- or wherever it is-- up to Jerusalem,

where it ought to be.

So they've been so scared of the Arabs.

So I think that Giuliani is going

to have his hands full with the State Department

but, hey, more power to him.

TERRY MEEUWSEN: He's had some experience,

so let's hope that that plays out for him.

PAT ROBERTSON: He cleaned up New York, and he did a great job.

He's a very competent executive, and that's what you need.

You need somebody who's had a big organization,

and a big city, big state, to take

on one of those big agencies.

And they talk about, for example, Kelly Ayotte,

I mean, she's undoubtedly a nice lady, but she's just a senator.

And they want to talk about putting her

in charge of the Defense Department, which

is one of the most enormous corporations

in the entire world.

I mean, you just don't do that.

You need somebody with executive experience.

TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, Trump's also

focusing on who would be in charge of his energy policy,

where he wants the change President Obama's

policies on issues like coal mining and global warming.

Gary Lane has that story for us.

GARY LANE: As outgoing President Barack Obama

made his final overseas trip as president, starting in Greece,

incoming president, Donald Trump,

pondered his potential cabinet picks.

Just before leaving on his trip, President Obama

held a press conference, where he said that Trump

was committed to NATO.

And he was asked about his impressions

of the president-elect.

BARACK OBAMA: I don't think he is ideological.

I think ultimately is he's pragmatic in that way.

And that can serve him well.

GARY LANE: Trump's latest potential cabinet

picks may demonstrate a pragmatic business approach

to move the country forward.

On the campaign trail, Trump pledged to approve the Keystone

Pipeline and said he'd take steps to make the US


Some of those being considered to head up

the Department of Energy would help him accomplish that.

Among them, North Dakota congressman Kevin Cramer.

North Dakota has become one of the nation's

top oil-producing states.

Oklahoma oil tycoon Harold Hamm, billionaire's Continental

Resources Company is involved in shale oil fracking.

Also considered for head of the Department

of Energy, or Interior, is venture capitalist Robert


Grady previously worked in the Bush administration.

But the big surprise may be Trump's potential pick

for Secretary of State-- America's top diplomat.

For now, it appears to be Trump supporter, and friend,

Rudy Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor.

Many people thought Giuliani would

be appointed US Attorney General, or possibly

head of Homeland Security.

But Trump reportedly told the former New York City

mayor he can have any cabinet position he wants.

And Trump may appoint gay Republican Richard

Grenell to be Ambassador to the United Nations.

Grenell is a foreign policy expert and the longest

serving US spokesman at the UN.

Still to come, who the President-elect

will choose for the important posts of Secretary

of Defense, Intelligence, Homeland

Security, and Treasury.

And once his cabinet is firmed up,

Trump will have another important personnel decision

to make-- who will replace the late Antonin

Scalia on the US Supreme Court.

Trump has vowed to appoint pro-life justices

and judges, those who may potentially

overturn Roe vs. Wade.

DONALD TRUMP: If it ever were overturned,

it would go back to the states.

So it would go back to the states--

INTERVIEWER: Some women won't be able to get an abortion.

DONALD TRUMP: No, it'll go back to the states.

INTERVIEWER: By state-- no some--

DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, well, they'll

perhaps have to go to another-- they'll

have to go to another state.

GARY LANE: Gary Lane, CBN News.

PAT ROBERTSON: We'll have CBN News political correspondent,

David Brody is with us now from the White House.

And Dave, how do you think the Senate Democrats will react,

for example, in Giuliani.

He should breeze through, wouldn't you think?

Or no?

DAVID BRODY: Well, I think they're

going to give him a tough time.

But ultimately he's going to get approved if and when

he becomes Secretary of State, or at least nominated

for Secretary of State.

But they'll give a hard time.

Look, I mean, you know Pat, Chuck Schumer

and a bunch of those New York Democrats

are going to give Giuliani a run for his money

when he sits down for any sort of confirmation hearing.

But this would be a coup de gras,

not just for the Trump administration

if Giuliani were Secretary of State,

but for Giuliani himself.

Let's remember, before John Kerry,

let me think-- oh that's right, Hillary Clinton

was Secretary of State.

And Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton,

well, there's no love lost between the two of them.

So to think about this, for Giuliani to, in essence,

replace Secretary Clinton from two Secretary of States

ago, if you will, would be such a feather in the cap,

personally, for Rudy Giuliani.

But beyond that, there's a lot of work

to be done if he indeed was going to be

in that crucial position, Pat.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, how about The Energy

nominees, Harold Hamm, Continental Resources,

he's an interesting guy.

He's made a lot of money in fracking.

I think he's lost some money recently,

had a big highly publicized divorce

where his wife took him for a lot of money.

What do you think?

DAVID BRODY: Well, the word here on the DC streets,

or the district, if you will, is Harold Hamm

is the leading candidate to run the Energy Department.

And indeed, you're right, shale oil, fracking, this

is what he's all about, exactly the opposite of what President

Obama had any desire to do.

And I think one of the first things

you'll see, whether it be Harold Hamm-- of course

it'll be all ultimately decided by Donald Trump--

and that is to get rid of that clean power plan

that President Obama put in place that would,

in essence, reduce carbon emissions from power plants

all across the country.

That's now being litigated in court,

but Donald Trump has no desire to see that go forward,

and so he looks to repeal that as he continues

to look at offshore drilling.

We're going to have a whole different sort of energy policy

here at the White House come January 20, Pat.

PAT ROBERTSON: What is your sense

of Trump's political philosophy about how to get things

done in Washington?

DAVID BRODY: Well look, this guy is--

he's not a traditional Republican-- news flash-- he's

not, obviously, a Democrat, he's a "Trumpublican"

is what I like to call him.

In other words, he's a guy that's

going to put America first.

And it's no surprise, he talked about this

on the campaign trail.

He'll put America first.

And what does that mean, exactly?

Well, it means, I'll take a little bit of this,

and a little bit of that, and I'm going to be pragmatic.

And I think that's the number one goal,

if you will, for Trump, is to be pragmatic, be a negotiator,

be a deal maker, figure all of this out.

Now remember, that comes with a word of caution here, Pat.

All of these conservative groups,

including conservative Christian groups,

need to be ready and understand that Trump's

going to cut a deal.

And in the past, cutting a deal meant

sacrificing your principles, potentially, here

in Washington.

We'll see how Trump navigates that because, I think,

that will be a lot of pushback that he's

going to get from traditional Republican sources.

They have to remember, this is not GOP orthodoxy here come

January 20.

If you're a Republican, if you're a conservative,

and you voted for Donald Trump, you

have to understand that you're not

going to get the traditional Republican playbook.

Are you OK with that?

I think that's a separate Dr. Phil psychological discussion

that every one of us is going to have to have Pat.

PAT ROBERTSON: David, he got a call from Putin,

and they seem to be buddy buddies.

You know, Putin is KGB to the core, and is--

I know Trump is a great deal maker,

but he's up against the best.

Do you think he's going to get taken in that engagement?

DAVID BRODY: Well, Trump's track record throughout his business

dealings is, he just doesn't get taken to the tune of billions

of dollars.

So it seems like he won't get taken.

Having said that, Putin's a tough cookie, if you will,

but so is Trump.

And one of the things we saw during the campaign

is that Trump was giving Putin all of this praise.

And the media went apoplectic, if you will, or apocalyptic,

if you will, about the fact that he would praise Putin.

Look, Trump knows-- I've been covering

this guy for seven years now-- Trump knows

that it's all about leverage.

It's all about the art of the deal.

You butter up your opponent.

You get him smiling, get him comfortable,

and then you go in for what you need.


Well, one last, will he put to Reince Priebus

in, who's a certainly, a traditional Republican,

has been a brilliant leader of the RNC.

Now he's got Bannon in there, who, in some of the statements

the he's made in Breitbart have been

extremely inflammatory, how the two of them working out so far?

DAVID BRODY: Well this is going to be interesting, Pat,

to say the least.

Maybe interesting isn't all that great of a word,

maybe something bigger than that.

Look, this is fire and ice.

I mean, this is-- to use a food analogy-- and believe me Pat,

I love food-- vanilla cream, Reince Priebus,

standard, rocky road, Steve Bannon,

totally two different flavors.

You choose the flavor.

And Trump is going to be able to choose that flavor depending

on what the issue is.

For example, trade, Steve Bannon, much more in line

with Donald Trump's views on trade than Reince Priebus.

So he'll mix and match and pick deciding

what he wants to do, specifically,

with each one of those.

It's going to be very interesting.

Reince Priebus, remember, he's the guy

that has the Washington connections-- so does

Mike Pence, obviously.

And that's what he needs Reince Priebus for.

And Steve Bannon is the guy, if you will, to kind of just

get him thinking a little bit outside the box.

And Donald Trump likes that.

He likes to have advisors that are going

to compete with one another.

It'll make for great palace intrigue, though.

I'll tell you that.


Well, stay with us.

You couldn't be at a better time and a better place in history.

You'll have a lot of fun.

DAVID BRODY: Thanks Pat.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, Wall Street has

been very happy to see Donald Trump in the White House.

But will the Trump rally continue in stocks?

Jenna Browder has that story.

JENNA BROWDER: Pat, the Dow Jones Industrials

have hit record highs during this post-election rally.

The Dow went up in the first four days since Trump won.

And the Standard and Poor's 500 has also

come close to a record, but technology stocks

haven't done quite as well.

Some analysts are looking for the market to take a rest

and possibly fall back a little bit.

But stocks usually do pretty well during the holiday season,

and many experts think they should stay strong

through the end of the year.

People ages 40 to 75 should get screened for high cholesterol,

and many of them should consider using statin drugs

to prevent a possible heart attack or stroke.

And that's the recommendation from a government-backed task


Some experts believe statins can reduce

the risk of heart attacks and cardiovascular disease.

But others warn that statins can only help

a tiny percentage of people.

One doctor telling Reuters Health that statins

can cause side effects like memory loss,

or brain fog, diabetes, muscle aches, and other problems.


PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you so much for that.

And ladies and gentlemen, you know my feeling about statins.

They are murder.

I just hate them.

They leave you with muscle aches.

And now they're putting a warning label

on that you can be a little depressed

and also lose cognitive ability because of statins.

So you know, your brain needs cholesterol.

Your body needs it.

The brain works off cholesterol

TERRY MEEUWSEN: It all works together.

But our guest earlier this week really was wonderful.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well it all works together

to make Pfizer and those other drug companies rich.

TERRY MEEUWSEN: I meant our bodies.


They've made a fortune out of this statin stuff.

And I tell you, we've had a wonderful lady talk,

who's wrote a book called Vitamin Muggers, talking

about how statins take the CoQ10 out of your body

and actually imperil your heart instead of helping it.

So, anyhow, I think there are natural ways

to lower cholesterol without going that route.

But doctors are passing those things out like they're candy.


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