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700 Club Interactive - November 29, 2016

Contemporary Christian music artist Natalie Grant rescues victims of human trafficking. Read Transcript


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SINGING IS WHAT I DO.

IT IS NOT WHO I AM.

Gordon: HEAR NOW

NATALIE GRANT FOUND HER

VOICE.

THIS IS THE MOST

INNOCENT AMONG US.

Gordon: WITHOUT

MAKING A SOUND.

I CAME HERE TRYING TO

LEARN HOW I COULD RESCUE

THEM.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

WELL, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

NICK BOYCHECK, A MAN BORN

WITH NO ARMS, NO LEGS, IS

ABOUT TO DELIVER A

POWERFUL MESSAGE TO

INMATES ALL ACROSS

AMERICA.

Terry: THE

INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN

AUTHOR AND PUBLIC SPEAKER

ANNOUNCED HE IS PREPARED

TO SHARE THE GOSPEL WITH

OVER 600 UNITED STATES

PRISONS IN 21 STATES.

Gordon: HIS MINISTRY

POSTED THIS ON Facebook:

"GOD IS USING NICK'S STORY

TO REACH THOSE WHO ARE

INCARCERATED.

"LIFE WITHOUT LIMBS" ARE

DELIVERING A VIDEO CHAT TO

INMATES.

Terry: HERE IS A LOOK

AT NICK SPEAKING TO

INMATES IN TEXAS.

TAKE A LOOK.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT

THERE WERE TIMES IN LIFE

WHERE I DIDN'T WANT TO

LIVE.

AND I'M NOT HUI HERE JUST TO

SHARE WITH YOU A SAD

STORY.

I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WE

ALL HAVE UPS AND DOWNS.

UPS AND DOWNS AND UPS AND

DOWNS.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN

AUSTRALIA, AND KIDS CAME

UP TO ME AND SAID, WHAT

HAPPENED?

AND I GO UP TO THEM AND I

SAY CIGARETTES.

AND FREAK THEM OUT A

LITTLE BIT.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: HE IS ONE OF

THE MOST AMAZING PEOPLE.

Gordon: HE IS

AMAZING.

YOU LOOK AT HIS LIFE, AND

YOU LOOK AT THE JOY IN

HIM, THE ABILITY TO LAUGH

THROUGH EVERYTHING, AND

YOU GO, WHAT ARE WE

COMPLAINING ABOUT?

Terry: AND TO

GENUINELY ENJOY EVERY

ASPECT OF HIS LIFE, AND

THEN TO GIVE BACK SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN GOD IS SO

ABLE TO TRUST HIM WITH THE

MESSAGE HE HAS GIVEN HIM.

Gordon: AND HE HAS

OVERCOME A LOT OF THINGS.

HE IS MARRIED.

HE IS NOW A FATHER.

THAT IS A WONDERFUL STORY.

Terry: WHAT A JOY FOR

THEM.

THAT'S AWESOME.

Gordon: WELL,

ABORTION HAS DECREASED

NATIONWIDE SINCE 2010, AND

THE REASON IS THAT MANY

STATES NOW REQUIRE THAT

WOMEN HAVE A PRE-ABORTION

ULTRASOUND.

Terry: ONE STUDY

SHOWS THAT 78% OF WOMEN

WHO HAVE SEEN THEIR

ULTRASOUND CHOOSE NOT TO

HAVE AN ABORTION.

"FOCUS ON THE FAMILY"

HELPS CRISIS PREGNANCY

CENTERS PURCHASE

ULTRASOUND EQUIPMENT.

IT IS EXPENSIVE.

SINCE THIS PROGRAM

STARTED, OVER 270,000

ABORTIONS HAVE BEEN

PREVENTED.

THAT IS ASTONISHING.

Gordon: AND HOPE IS

IS ONE OF THOSE LIVES WHO

WAS SAVED.

HER BIRTH MOM WAS

CONSIDERING AN ABORTION,

BUT AFTER SEEING THE

ULTRASOUND, SHE HAD A

CHANGE OF HEART.

I BOUGHT A PREGNANCY

TEST, AND I TOOK IT, AND

IT SAID POSITIVE.

AND I WAS SHOCKED.

I WAS, LIKE, HOW COULD

THIS HAPPEN TO ME?

SO I CALLED HIM -- HE WAS

AT SCHOOL, AND I WAS AT

HIS HOUSE.

I CALLED HIM AND I TOLD

HIM -- I SAID, I'M

PREGNANT.

AND HE SAID, ARE YOU SURE?

AND I SAID, YEAH, THAT'S

WHAT THE PREGNANCY TEST

SAYS.

AND HE SAID, OKAY, DON'T

WORRY ABOUT IT.

WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

THOSE WERE THE FIRST WORDS

OUT OF HIS MOUTH.

HE WANTED TO HAVE AN

ABORTION.

AND I DIDN'T QUESTION IT,

EITHER, BECAUSE I WAS

FINISHING SCHOOL.

I HAD MY LIFE AHEAD OF ME.

HOW WAS I GOING TO HAVE A

BABY.

HOW WAS I GOING TO GET

PREGNANT AND HOW WAS I

GOING TO EXPLAIN IT TO MY

PARENTS?

ALSO DURING THIS TIME, I

CONFIDED IN ONE OF MY

GIRLFRIENDS.

SHE WENT ON LINE AND SHE

FOUND A CRISIS PREGNANCY

CENTER DOWN IN SAN DIEGO.

THE LAST THING THEY DID

DURING THE VISIT WAS GIVE

ME AN ULTRASOUND.

I COULD SEE ON THE SCREEN

NEXT TO ME, THAT THERE WAS

THIS LITTLE -- IT LOOKED

LIKE A BEAN.

AND IT WAS JUST MOVING

AROUND.

AND IT WAS JUMPING UP AND

DOWN.

AND SO RIGHT AT THAT

MOMENT I CHANGED MY MIND.

AND I SAW -- I SAID, THIS

IS A TRUE, LIVING THING.

IT IS NOT JUST A CLUMP OF

CELLS.

THERE WAS SOMETHING LIVING

AND GROWING AND MOVING

INSIDE OF ME ALREADY.

I REFERRED HER TO GO TO

"FOCUS ON FAMILY."

AND SHE DID.

I WAS SO SURPRISED BECAUSE

IN THE PAST, SHE NEVER

WANTED TO LISTEN.

BUT I SAID, COULD YOU GO

TO "FOCUS ON FAMILY" ABOUT

THIS SUBJECT.

AND SHE DID, AND THEN SHE

SAID HE WANTED TO KEEP THE

BABY.

I STARTED BECOMING MORE

OPEN TO ADOPTION.

I KNEW THAT I NEEDED

ANOTHER OPTION BECAUSE

APPARENTLY WASN'PARENTING WASN'T GOING TO

BE THE BEST OPTION FOR ME.

AFTER I MET THEM FOR THE

FIRST TIME, I THOUGHT IF I

DO GO WITH THIS ADOPTION

PLAN, THEY ARE PROBABLY

THE ONES I WOULD CHOOSE.

WE STARTED VERY BASIC

DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT IT

WOULD LOOK LIKE TO MAKE AN

OPEN ADOPTION WITH THEM.

SHE ENCAPSULATES LIFE.

IT IS INTERESTING SHE IS

THE DAUGHTER WHO HAS COME

FROM THIS SITUATION WHERE

THE CHOICE OF DEATH WAS AN

OPTION, BUT SHE ABSOLUTELY

PERSONIFIES LIFE AND

ENERGY AND VIALLITY.

SHE IS ON THE GO.

Gordon: THAT IS A

STORY OF HOPE.

WHAT A WONDERFUL THING TO

CHOOSE, TO CHOOSE LIFE,

AND CHOOSE TO HAVE IT MORE

ABUNDANTLY.

Terry: YEAH.

IT IS A GIFT.

IF YOU FIND YOURSELF WITH

AN UNWANTED PREGNANCY AND

YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO

SOMEONE ABOUT IT, "FOCUS

ON THE FAMILY" HAS TRAINED

COUNSELLORS, JUST GO TO

THEIR WEBSITE

focusonthefamily.com.

> ODDS ARE MANY OF YOU

JUST TOOK ADVANTAGE OF

BLACK FRIDAY OR EVEN CYBER

MONDAY, BUT DID YOU KNOW

THAT TODAY IS GIVE-BACK

TUESDAY.

Gordon: I WANT TO TEM

YOU ABOUT A WAY YOU CAN

BLESS CHILDREN ALL OVER

THE WORLD.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN

OUTREACH WE DID IN

VIETNAM, A COUNTRY THAT IS

95% BUDDHIST.

AND NOW THANKS TO CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK," 44,000

CHILDREN UNDERSTAND THE

REAL MEANING OF CHRISTMAS.

Reporter: THIS PAST

CHRISTMAS CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK" CAME TO THE

NATION OF VIETNAM.

THIS IS THE VERY, VERY

3D CHRISTIAN ANIMATION IN

VIETNAM, AND EVERYBODY

LOVES IT.

EVEN OUR SECULAR FRIENDS.

Reporter: EVEN THOUGH

IT IS MORE THAN 90%

BUDDHIST HERE, MOST PEOPLE

CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.

EVERYONE IN VIETNAM

KNOWS CHRISTMAS.

THEY GIVE GREETING CARDS,

THEY SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS,

AND THEY DECORATE THEIR

HOUSE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T

REALLY KNOW THE MEANING OF

CHRISTMAS.

Reporter: HE IS CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK" DIRECTOR

THERE.

CHILDREN INVITED THEIR

BUDDHIST FRIENDS, AND MORE

THAN 44,000 KIDS HEARD

ABOUT JESUS AND THE REAL

MEANING OF CHRISTMAS.

I LEARNED THAT

CHRISTMAS IS WHEN JESUS

WAS BORN.

I ENJOY THE TIME

TRAVEL.

"SUPERBOOK" BROUGHT US

BACK TO BIBLE TIMES.

Reporter: KIDS WERE

ALSO ENCOURAGED TO INVITE

FRIENDS TO THEIR HOME, TO

SHARE THE "SUPERBOOK"

CHRISTMAS AND CREATION

STORY.

10-YEAR-OLD CONG NANG WAS

ONE OF THOSE KIDS.

AFTER WATCHING

"SUPERBOOK," I WANTED TO

SEE IT AGAIN.

AND I WANTED MY CLASSMATES

TO WATCH IT, SO THEY COULD

LEARN ABOUT JESUS AND

FOLLOW HIM.

I BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE

THE KIDS IN VIETNAM,

EVERYWHERE, WILL SEE

"SUPERBOOK" ON TELEVISION

OR ON THE INTERNET.

EVERYWHERE IN VIETNAM.

THANK YOU, CBN, FOR

BRINGING "SUPERBOOK" TO

VIETNAM.

Gordon: WELL, TODAY

IS GIVE-BACK TUESDAY.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART

OF GIVING BACK ON THIS

TUESDAY, WHY NOT CONSIDER

A GIFT TO THE "SUPERBOOK"

D.V.D. CLUB, SO YOU CAN

SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO

BRING THE STORIES OF THE

BIBLE TO THE CHILDREN OF

THE WORLD.

VIETNAM IS JUST ONE OF THE

COUNTRIES.

WE'RE ON 42 LANGUAGES, ON

OUR WAY TO THE GOAL OF 50

LANGUAGES.

AND THERE IS A BROADCAST

MAP, WHERE YOU CAN SEE ALL

OF THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES

THAT WE HAVE, ALL OF THE

DIFFERENT PLACES, WHERE

WE'RE SHARING THE STORIES

OF THE BIBLE.

ONCE WE HIT THOSE 50

LANGUAGES, OUR GOAL IS

GOING TO GO UP BY 10

TIMES.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY, CAN WE

HIT 500 LANGUAGES?

CAN WE DO THAT WITH

"SUPERBOOK"?

SO THE CHILDREN GET THE

OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND

THE REAL MEANING OF

CHRISTMAS.

IT IS AMAZING HOW ALL OF

THE CULTURES OF THE WORLD

HAVE ADOPTED CHRISTMAS,

BUT YOU GO ASK THEM WHAT

IS THE SIGNIFICANCE AND

WHAT IS THE MEANING, AND

THEY LITERALLY DON'T KNOW.

SO YOU CAN BE A PART OF

IT.

HOW?

JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK"

D.V.D. CLUB.

FOR A GIFT OF $25 OR MORE,

WE'LL SEND YOU NOT JUST

ONE COPY, BUT WE'LL SEND

YOU THREE COPIES OF THE

LATEST D.V.D. IN THE

SERIES.

THEN YOU GET TO HAVE

ACCESS TO THE FIRST TWO

SEASONS, THAT'S 26

EPISODES, ON STREAMING

THROUGH AN TABLET,

SMARTPHONE, EXTREME DESKTOP

COMPUTER, SO YOU CAN HAVE

THE STORIES OF THE BIBLE.

IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT,

GIVE US A CALL:

1-800-700-7000.

OR YOU CAN GO TO THE

WEBSITE,

700clubinteractive.com.

Terry: BOY, I WAS

JUST IN VIETNAM IN THE

LAST YEAR, AND THAT IS A

MIRACLE, TO HAVE 44,000

CHILDREN SEE THIS AT THE

HOLIDAY SEASON.

THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL AN

OPEN DOOR.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: HOW WONDERFUL.

> WELL, DOES WHAT'S

INSIDE YOUR HEART MATCH

YOUR OUTWARD APPEARANCE?

ASHLEY WIL WILKERSON, IN TACK IN

TACOMA, WAS WASHINGTON, ADMITS

EVEN IN HER OWN LIFE,

SOMETIMES LOOKS CAN BE

DECEIVING.

I'M 100% TYPE "A."

I'M AN ACHIEVER.

I'M ALL ABOUT DOING

EVERYTHING MYSELF.

I WAS NOT EVEN THAT GOOD

AT GROUP PROJECTS IN

SCHOOL.

I WAS THAT KID WHO SAID,

LET ME DO IT AND THEN YOU

CAN PUT YOUR FLAME O NAME ON IT.

JEREMIAH SPEAKS TO THIS.

IN JEREMIAH 17: 5 SAYS:

"CURSED IS THE ONE WHO

TRUSTS IN MAN, WHO JOINS

STRENGTH FROM YOUR FLESH,

AND HIS HEART TURNS AWAY

FROM THE LORD."

THAT PERSON WILL BE LIKE A

BUSH IN THE WASTELAND.

THIS BUSH THAT JEREMIAH IS

SPEAKING OF IS AN AURORA

BUSH.

WHAT IS SO INTRIGUING

ABOUT THIS BUSH IS IT

ACTUALLY PRODUCES WHAT

LOOKS LIKE AMAZINGLY LUSH

FRUIT.

IF YOU WALK UP TO THIS

BUSH AND SQUEEZE THE

FRUIT, IT FEELS LIKE IT IS

INCREDIBLY JUICY.

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW

ATTRACTIVE THAT WOULD SEEM

TO SOMEONE WALKING THROUGH

THE DESERT.

WHAT IS I INTRIGUING IS THAT

THIS SPECIFIC BUSH, WHEN

YOU BREAK THE FRUIT OPEN,

IS FULL OF NOTHING BUT

THIS COB-WEB-LOOKING

SUBSTANCE.

AND INSIDE OF IT, THE ONLY

JUICE IS MAYBE ONE DROP OF

WHAT IS CALLED THE MOST

POISONOUS SERUM IN THE

ENTIRE DESERT.

SOME OF THE INDIGENOUS

CULTURES USE IT ON THEIR

ARROWS TO KILL.

WHEN YOU TRUST IN YOUR OWN

STRENGTH AND TURN YOUR

HEART FROM THE LORD, YOU

MAY APPEAR TO HAVE IT ALL

TOGETHER.

YOU MAY APPEAR TO BE

REFRESHING TO PEOPLE.

YOU MAY APPEAR TO HAVE ALL

OF THE ANSWERS, BUT WHEN

PEOPLE BREAK YOU OPEN AND

FIND WHAT'S INSIDE, ALL

THEY'LL FIND IS EMPTINESS

AND DEATH.

MAKE SURE TODAY THAT YOUR

TRUST IS TOTALLY IN THE

LORD, AND YOUR STRENGTH IS

ONLY DRAWN FROM HIM.

Gordon: THAT'S A GOOD

WORD FOR THE DAY.

WHAT A WONDERFUL TEACHING.

Terry: IT REALLY IS,

FOR ALL OF US.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS

ANYBODY THAT CAN'T LEARN

FROM THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE OF

ASHLEY'S TEACHINGS, JUST

GO TO

AshleyWilkerson.org.

Gordon: COMING UP,

SHE IS AN AWARD-WINNING

SINGER AND A MODERN DAY

ABOLITIONIST.

I WILL NEVER FORGET

MEETING THIS GIRL WHO WAS

TOLD BY HER FAMILY ON HER

12th BIRTHDAY.

AND SHE TOOK MY HAND AND

SAID, JESUS, JESUS, JESUS.

Gordon: NATALIE GRANT

TAKES A STAND AGAINST

HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

IN HER CAREER, NATALIE

GRANT COULDN'T SING, SHE

COULDN'T SPEAK.

THE FIVE-TIME FEMALE

VOCALIST OF THE YEAR WAS

TOLD BY DOCTORS SHE

COULDN'T EVEN WHISPER.

ODDLY ENOUGH, THAT'S WHEN

NATALIE FOUND HER TRUE

VOICE.

TAKE A LOOK.

* YOU'RE A GREAT GOD, AND

WE LOVE YOU, LORD *

Reporter:

AWARD-WINNING ARTIST

NATALIE GRANT IS ONE OF

THE MOST RECOGNIZED NAMES

IN CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN

MUSIC.

BUT IN 2004, SHE SAYS SHE

FOUND A PURPOSE THAT GOES

BEYOND HER MUSIC CAREER.

THE IRONY IS IT HAS

VERY LITTLE TO O D DO WITH

SINGING.

SINGING IS WHAT I DO, IT

IS NOT WHO I AM.

Reporter: SHE SAYS

THE JOURNEY TO DISCOVERING

HER PASSION WAS WHILE

WATCHING "LAW AND ORDER."

I REMEMBER THAT TV SHOW

SAYING THAT THEY WERE

RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES.

AND I WAS THINKING, WHAT

HEADLINES IS THIS?

THEY WERE DEPICTING KIDS

BEING SOLD OUT OF THE BACK

OF THE VAN IN NEW YORK

CITY.

THIS IS THE MOST INNOCENT

AMONG US.

I REMEMBER THINKING IF

THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING

SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, I

NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE

NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT,

TOO.

Reporter: SO SHE MADE

PLANS TO TRAVEL TO INDIA,

THE AREA MANY CONSIDER TO

BE THE EPICENTER OF HUMAN

TRAFFICKING.

BUT TWO DAYS BEFORE THE

TRIP, ONE OF HER VOCAL

CHORDS RU RUPTURED.

YOU CANNOT SPEAK, HUM,

WHISPER -- YOU CANNOT

UTTER A SINGLE SOUND FOR

30 DAYS.

Reporter: VOICELESS,

SHE WENT ANYWAY.

I WILL NEVER FORGET

MEETING THIS GIRL WHO WAS

SOLD BY HER OWN PARENTS ON

HER 12th BIRTHDAY.

SHE WAS RESCUED AT 22.

SHE DID KNOW ONE THING SHE

KNEW IN ENGLISH.

SHE TOOK MY HANDS AND SHE

JUST SAID, JESUS, JESUS,

JESUS.

SHE THOUGHT, I CAN'T GO

INTO ALL OF MY STORY IN

ENGLISH, BUT WHEN I SAY

THIS NAME, YOU'RE GOING TO

KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS

GOING TO BE MADE RIGHT.

I CAME HERE TRYING TO

LEARN HOW I COULD RESCUE

THEM.

AND THESE, WHO HAVE SO

MUCH BROKENNESS, SHOWED ME

THAT JESUS DOES HIS BEST

WORK THROUGH OUR BROKEN

PIECES.

WHEN YOU CAN'T MAKE A

SOUND, AND ALL YOU CAN DO

IS JUST LEAN ON GOD AND

LISTEN, IT IS AMAZING WHAT

HAPPENS.

Reporter: IN 2005,

NATALIE COFOUNDED "HOPE

FOR JUSTICE," WHO'S

MISSION IS TO BRING AN END

TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING, BY

RESCUING VICTIMS,

RESTORING LIVES, AND

RESTORING SOCIETY.

"HOPE FOR JUSTICE" IS

HARD TO BELIEVE IT STARTED

OFF OF A LITTLE DREAM,

MEETING FOUR GIRLS IN

INDIA.

SO IT IS AMAZING, WHEN YOU

USE YOUR VOICE TO DO WHAT

GOD HAS PLACED INSIDE OF

YOU.

>* WE CAN BE THE CHANGE

Reporter: NOW THE

ARTIST, WIFE, AND MOTHER,

HOPES TO HELP OTHER WOMEN

FIND GOD'S CALLING IN HER

NEW BOOK.

SHE SHARES HER STORY OF

BULEMIA, SELF-DOUBT, AND

DEPRESSION, TO FIND GOD'S

PURPOSE IN HER LIFE.

AND IT STARTS WITH GOD'S

WORD.

AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE

BOOK, FROM START TO

FINISH, IT IS FULL OF MY

STORY, YES, BUT MORE THAN

THAT, IT IS FULL OF

BIBLICAL EXAMPLES BECAUSE

THE FOUNDATION TO FINDING

YOUR VOICE IS THE WORD OF

GOD.

Reporter: NATALIE

SAYS ULTIMATELY A PERSONAL

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD WILL

GIVE WOMEN THE CONFIDENCE

TO LIVE THEIR PASSION

OUTLOUD.

MY PRAYER IS THAT EVERY

PERSON THAT READS THE

BOOK, WHEN THEY PUT IT

DOWN, THE TAKE ANYWHERE-AWAY WOULD

BE FINDING THEIR IDENTITY

IN WHO CHRIST SAYS THAT

THEY ARE.

DISCOVERING THAT PERSONAL

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS

CHRIST, AND THAT HIS VIEW,

WHAT HE SEES -- SEEING

OURSELVES THROUGH THE LENS

OF CHRIST AS HE GIVES

GRACE OVER OUR LIVES,

BEGINS TO CHANGE EVERY

ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.

IT WILL STRENGTHEN OUR

MARRIAGE.

IT WILL STRENGTHEN OUR

ABILITY TO PARENT.

IT WILL STREN THE STRENGTHEN OUR

FRIENDSHIPS.

IT STRENGTHENS EVERYTHING

ABOUT OUR LIFE.

WHEN YOU CAN FIND YOUR

VOICE IN FIRST

UNDERSTANDING HIS VOICE

OVER YOUR LIFE, I THINK

THAT IS MY PRAYER.

THAT EVERY PERSON WHO

READS IT WOULD HAVE A

GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF

WHO THEY ARE IN CHRIST.

AND I THINK THAT

UNDERSTANDING CHANGES

EVERYTHING.

Terry: THAT IS SORT

OF THE JOURNEY IN A

NUTSHELL, ISN'T IT?

FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT WHO

HE IS, AND WHO WE ARE IN

HIM.

HE LOVES US SO MUCH.

> STILL AHEAD,

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR LEE

STROBEL TALKS ABOUT HIS

EXTREME ALLERGIC REACTION

TO MEDICATION.

I STARTED TO HALLS

HALLUCINATE.

I STARTED TO DESCEND INTO

HELL, IN MY MIND.

THE ROOM GOT COLD AND

CLAMMY AND DARK.

I BEGAN TO SEE DEMONS.

I WAS UNABLE TO MOVE.

I LOOKED UP AT THE CLOCK,

AND THE CLOCK WAS GOING

BACKWARDS.

Terry: STROBEL

RELIVES THE HEALTH SCARE

THAT LED HIM TO A CRISIS

OF FAITH.

THAT'S COMING UP.

WROTE OF HIS JOURNEY FROM

RESOLUTE ATHEIST TO

CHRISTIAN APOLOGIST IN HIS

BOOK "THE CASE CO FOR

CHRIST."

THAT BOOK HAS BEEN TURNED

INTO A MOVIE SET TO

RELEASE IN THE SUMMER OF

2017.

HERE IS WHAT WON'T BE IN

THE STORY, A TIME WHEN HE

WAS CONVINCED THAT THE GOD

HE DEFENDS HAD ABANDONED

HIM.

Reporter: LEE STROBEL

HAS DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO

PROVING THE CLAIMS OF

CHRISTIANITY ARE TRUE.

AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS,

HE COULDN'T IMAGINE

ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE

HIM QUESTION HIS OWN

FAITH.

THEN AND I WASN'T LIKELY

CASCADE OF MEDICAL ISSUES

BROUGHT HIM TO THE EDGE OF

DEATH, AND HE GOT A

GLIMPSE OF LIFE WITHOUT

GOD.

THERE WAS SUCH A SENSE

OF DISPAIR.

AND SUCH A SENSE THAT IF

GOD HAD ABANDONED ME, THEN

TRULY THERE IS NO HOPE.

IN MY MIND, I WAS

CONVINCED THAT HE WALKED

THE OTHER WAY.

Reporter: IT STARTED

WHEN LEE DEVELOPED

COMPLICATIONS FOLLOWING A

ROUTINE HEART PROCEDURE,

BUT THEY WERE UNDETECTED,

AND HIS KIDNEYS BEGAN

SHUTTING DOWN.

IT WAS ALSO AFFECTING HIS

MIND.

IT WAS OVER A PERIOD OF

TIME THAT I WAS GETTING

INCREASINGLY IRRATIONAL

AND MENTALLY CONFUSED.

I STARTED TO BECOME

PARANOID.

I IMAGINED MY WIFE WAS

LEAVING ME, MY CHILDREN

WERE LEAVING ME AND MY

FRIENDS WERE LEAVING ME.

EMOTIONALLY I WAS GOING

THROUGH THEM LIKE THEY

WERE REALLY HAPPENING.

Reporter: THEN IT GOT

WORSE, WHEN LEE HAD AN

ALLERGIC REACTION TO SOME

MEDICATION HE TOOK FOR A

PROBLEM WITH HIS VOICE.

THE EPISODES INTENSIFIED.

ONE WAS ESPECIALLY VIVID.

I STARTED TO

HALLUCINATE.

I STARTED TO DESCEND INTO

HELL, IN MY MIND.

THE ROOM GOT COLD AND

CLAMMY AND DARK.

I BEGAN TO SEE DEMONS.

I WAS UNABLE TO MOVE.

I LOOKED UP AT THE CLOCK,

AND THE CLOCK WAS GOING

BACKWARDS.

THE EMOTION WAS THIS IS

FOREVER.

THERE IS NO ESCAPE.

THERE IS NO HOPE.

THERE IS NO RELIEF.

THIS IS WHAT FOREVER WILL

BE LIKE.

WHEN YOU EMOTIONALLY COME

TO THAT PLACE, YOU ARE

JUST CONSUMED BY FEAR, BY

DREAD, BY ANXIETY.

I WISH I COULD SAY THAT MY

AUTOMATIC REACTION WAS TO

SEEK AFTER GOD.

THE TRUTH IS, I HAD THE

OPPOSITE REACTION.

I BELIEVED THAT GOD HAD

WALKED AWAY FROM ME AND

THAT I WAS NO LONGER HIS

SON.

Reporter: THE

HALLUCINATION ENDED, BUT

LEE'S HEALTH AND MIND

CONTINUED TO SLIP.

A FEW DAYS LATER, HIS WIFE

FOUND HIM UNCONSCIOUS.

I WOKE UP, AND THERE

WAS A DOCTOR THERE.

AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE

SAID, YOU'RE ONE STEP AWAY

FROM A COMA, TWO STEPS

AWAY FROM DYING.

Reporter: DOCTORS

DISCOVERED THAT LEE'S

BLOOD SODIUM LEVEL WAS

CRITICALLY LOW.

THEY STARTED TREATMENTS,

BUT THE RECOVERY WOULD

TAKE TIME.

LATER HIS SON CAME TO BE

WITH HIM AND TO PRAY.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PRAY

WITH HIM.

I STILL WAS RECOVERING.

I STILL WAS MENTALLY

CONFUSED TO THE DEGREE

THAT I THOUGHT GOD HAD

WALKED AWAY FROM ME.

AND HE SAID, YOU WANT TO

RECONNECT WITH GOD, DON'T

YOU?

AND I SAID YES.

HE TOOK ME DOWN A JOURNEY,

AND THE PATHWAY WAS TO

STRIP MYSELF OF THE

PRETENSES THAT YOU PRESENT

WHEN YOU GO TO GOD.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE CLING

TO OUR IDENTITY AS A DAD

OR A MOM OR SUCCESSFUL

PERSON OR HOMEOWNER.

AND HE HELPED ME KIND OF

STRIP THAT AWAY.

THAT I WASN'T A HUSBAND AT

THAT POINT.

I WASN'T A FATHER.

I WASN'T A GRANDFATHER.

I WASN'T AN AUTHOR.

I WASN'T A PASTOR.

TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE

IT WAS JUST ME AND GOD.

AND THAT'S WHEN IT STRUCK

ME, WAIT A MINUTE.

I'VE BEEN UNDER THE

ILLUSION AN THAT I'VE LOST

EVERYTHING.

SO WHAT IF I LOST ALL MY

MONEY?

WHAT IF I LOST ALL MY

FRIENDS?

ULTIMATELY, I REALIZED I

HAVE JESUS CHRIST, AND

THAT'S ENOUGH.

THE GRACE OF GOD IS

ENOUGH.

Reporter: ALTHOUGH

LEE DID LOSE ONE OF HIS

KIDNEYS, HE CAME AWAY WITH

AN UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S

GRACE HE NEVER HAD BEFORE.

HE SHARES HIS EXPERIENCE

AND MORE IN HIS NEW BOOK

"THE CASE FOR GRACE."

I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO

THE POINT WHERE I'M

CONNECTING WITH GOD AS

SOMEONE WHO HAS IT ALL

FIGURED OUT.

MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

IS NOTHING BUT HIS

GRACIOUS LOVE FOR ME,

NEVER DESERVING IT, NEVER

MERITING IT.

AND WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THE

BANK ACCOUNT AND THE

FAMILY AND ALL OF THESE

WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAVE

HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS

SINCE I'VE BEEN A

CHRISTIAN, IT DOESN'T

MATTER.

IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE

ULTIMATELY ALL THAT REALLY

MATTERS IS ME ANDED GOD.

AND GOD.

Gordon: THAT'S A

TOUGH LESSON TO LEARN.

BUT WHEN YOU LEARN IT, IT

MAKES ALL OF THE

DIFFERENCE.

SO OFTEN WE LOOK AT

WORLDLY SUCCESS.

WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH IS IN

THE BANK ACCOUNT.

OR HOW MANY CARS DO WE

HAVE OR HOW BIG OF A HOUSE

DO YOU HAVE?

IN MINISTRY, WE SOMETIMES

LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF

NUMBERS.

ARE YOU SUCCESSFUL?

WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE

HEART.

AND JUST LIKE THAT STORY

EARLIER IN THIS SHOW, OF

THE BUSH OUT IN THE

DESERT, WHERE IT LOOKS

GOOD, BUT INSIDE THE

FRUIT, YOU DON'T FIND

ANYTHING.

YOU CERTAINLY DON'T FIND

ANYTHING NOURISHING.

SO DO A LITTLE FRUIT

INSPECTION IN YOUR OWN

LIFE.

AND ASK YOURSELF THIS

QUESTION: IF EVERYTHING

WAS TAKEN AWAY, IF YOU HAD

THAT JOB EXPERIENCE, WHERE

YOU LOSE IT ALL, WOULD YOU

STILL BE ABLE TO SAY THE

LORD GIVETH AND THE LORD

TAKETH AWAY.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE

LORD.

WOULD YOU STILL HAVE THAT

WITHIN YOU?

WOULD YOU STILL FIND THAT

KIND OF FRUIT GROWING IN

YOUR LIFE?

WHEN JESUS BECOMES YOUR

ALL AND YOUR

ALL-SUFFICIENT ONE, THAT'S

THE TIME WHEN YOU CAN SAY,

WELL DONE, GOOD AND

FAITHFUL SERVANT.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS

WORD FROM 2 TIMOTHY:

"STAND STEADY AND DON'T BE

AFRAID OF SUFFERING FOR

THE LORD.

BRING OTHERS TO CHRIST.

LEAVE NOTHING UNDONE THAT

YOU OUGHT TO DO."

GOD BLESS YOU.

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