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Studio 5: The Fight of Faith

Hip hop pioneer Gene “No Malice” Thornton shares an inside look at his powerful documentary. We then go behind-the-scenes with the film’s producers, I Am Second. And get your first look at the film The Fight Within. Read Transcript


Efrem: SECOND AWAY,

ON "STUDIO 5"...

*

Efrem: HE WAS RIDING

HIGH ON HIP-HOP WHEN HE

WALKED AWAY FROM IT ALL.

COULD THERE BE A CLIFF

COMEBACK?

I'LL LET YOU IN ON A

LITTLE SECRET: I KNOW WE

CAN COME BACK TOGETHER AND

MAKE MUSIC THAT CRUSHES

EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

Efrem: MEET GENE, NO

MALICE, THORNTON.

THE POINT IS, HOW CAN

WE TELL AUTHENTIC STORIES

THAT RESONATE WITH PEOPLE?

Efrem: AND AN M.M.A.

FIGHTER SEEKS TO OVERCOME

A TROUBLED PAST.

WE HAVE YOUR FIRST LOOK AT

THE FILM, "THE FIGHT

WITHIN," IN "STUDIO 5."

STARTING NOW.

FOR A MOMENT, IT SEEMED

FUN.

BUT IN 2009, KNOCK, KNOCK,

KNOCK.

IT WAS THE DEVIL, AND HE

WAS COMING FOR HIS STUFF

BACK.

FAME IS ONE OF THOSE

THINGS WHEN YOU'RE GIVEN

IT, THERE IS NO COLLEGE

COURSE ON HOW TO DRINK IT.

Efrem: AND THAT'S

JUST A SAMPLE OF THE

DOCUMENTARY, "THE END OF

MALICE," THE COMPELLING

STORY OF RAP PIONEER GENE

THORNTON.

THAT'S IN JUST A MOMENT.

> FIRST, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

"THE END OF MALICE" FILM

WAS PRODUCED BY "I AM

SECOND."

WE WANT TO BEGIN WITH OUR

RUNDOWN WITH WHAT IS

TRENDING IN THE WORLD OF

UPLIFTING ENTERTAINMENT.

AT NUMBER FIVE:

GIVE IT UP FOR PHARRELL

WILLIAMS.

Efrem: A GOSPEL GREAT

AND A HIP-HOP PIONEER TEAM

UP FOR TONIGHT'S

PERFORMANCE.

*

Efrem: I SE "I SEE A

VICTORY" IS FROM THE

SOUNDTRACK.

WE'RE JUST ON OUR WAY

TO WORK AT NASA.

I HAD NO IDEA.

Efrem: THE UNTOLD

TRUE STORY OF THREE

BRILLIANT BLACK WOMEN

WORKING AT NASA HITS THE

BIG GENE JANUARY 13.

THIS WASN'T EMPTY LAST

NIGHT?

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT...

Efrem: AND ANOTHER

PROJECT IS AT NUMBER FOUR.

WESLEY SNIPES LANDS A BOOK

DEAL, WRITING A NOVEL

ABOUT SPIRITUA SPIRITUAL WARFARE.

THE ACTOR HAS BEEN

RELATIVELY QUIET SINCE

BEING RELEASED FROM PRISON

THREE YEARS AGO FOR TAX

FRAUD.

LIFE IN AND OF ITSELF

IS AN EXPERIENCE.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE

TO LAUGH AT IT.

YOU TAKE IT TOO, TOO

SERIOUSLY, YOU MISS ALL OF

THE BEAUTY, ALL OF THE

GLORY, ALL OF THE WONDER

AND SPLENDOR.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

THREE:

TIME TE TIM TEBOW'S PERFORMANCE

ON SUNDAY SENT PEOPLE

FLOCKING TO THE INTERNET.

THE GAME MADE JOHN 3: 16

THE MOST SEARCHED ITEM ON

GOOGLE.

Efrem: AND INCREDIBLE

THING HAPPENED EXACTLY

THREE YEARS AFTER TIM

TEBOW PAINTED JOHN 3: 16

UNDER HIS EYES IN COLLEGE.

AND THE COINCIDENCE IS

GETTING BUZZ AGAIN AS HE

MAKES THE ROUNDS PROMOTING

HIS BOOK.

DURING THE GAME, YOU

THREW FOR 316 YARDS.

YOUR YARDS PUR RUSH WERE

3.16.

AND COMPLETION WERE 31.6.

THE RATINGS FORTUNATE THE

GAME WAS 31.6.

AND DURING THE GAME,

90 MILLION PEOPLE HAD

ALREADY GOOGLED JOHN 3:

16, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

WOULD SAY IT'S

COINCIDENCE.

I SAY BIG GOD.

Efrem: MOVING ON TO

NUMBER TWO.

BEST DIRECTOR.

Efrem: THE GOLDEN

GLOBES KICK OFF THE

HOLLYWOOD AWARDS SEASON.

AND THIS FAMILIAR FILM IS

AMONG THE CONTENDERS.

FOR BEST DIRECTOR...

MEL GIBSON, "HACKSAW

RIDGE."

Efrem: AND...

BEST MOTION PICTURE

DRAMATIC, "HACKSAW RIDGE."

Efrem: AND DENZEL

WASHINGTON AND VIOLA DAVIS

ARE ALSO NOMINATED FOR

THEIR PERFORMANCES IN

"FENCES."

I'VE BEEN STANDING IN

THE SAME PLACE FOR 18

YEARS.

WELL, I WAS STANDING

WITH YOU.

Efrem: THIS FILM HITS

THEATERS CHRISTMAS DAY.

> AT NUMBER ONE: VID

ANGEL WAS BORN HERE IN

PROVO, UTAH.

AND THE FILTERING SERVICE

COMPANY WAS SLAPPED WITH A

LAWSUIT FROM HOLLYWOOD

STUDIOS LESS THAN A YEAR

AFTER STARTING.

JUSTICE IS ON OUR SIDE,

ULTIMATELY.

WE JUST NEED TO GET THERE.

Efrem: VID ANGEL'S

C.E.O. VOWS TO CONTINUE

THE LEGAL FIGHT.

AFTER A JUDGE GRANTED

DISNEY'S REQUEST THIS WEEK

FOR A PRELIMINARY

INJUNCTION.

WE WE'VE HAD 7,000

CONSUMERS INVEST IN VID

ANGEL TO GIVE US THE

RESOURCES.

Efrem: GENE THON TORN THORNTON

IS A POP STAR.

RAP STAR.

HE WALKED AWAY FROM HIS

CAREER AT THE HEIGHT OF

HIS CAREER.

AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE

MAN HIMSELF IN THIS WEEK'S

"STUDIO 5" INTERVIEW.

I REMEMBER TALKING TO A

FRIEND OF MINE.

I SAID, YOU DON'T FEEL

GUILTY?

AND HE SAID, YOU ARE THE

ONLY ONE WHO ASKS THAT

QUESTION.

HAVING THAT THORNTON

ENERGY, GENE IS ALWAYS THE

GUY LOOKING FOR THE WHY.

HE IS MUCH MORE A

PHILOSOPHER IN HIS RHYMES.

FOR A MOMENT IT SEEMED

FUN.

BUT IN 2009, KNOCK, KNOCK,

KNOCK, IT WAS THE DEVIL.

AND HE WAS COMING FOR HIS

STUFF BACK.

Efrem: ONE OF THE

THINGS I READ THAT YOU

SAID, IN ASSOCIATION WITH

SHARING YOUR STORY, I

WOULD HAVE LOVED TO KEEP

THIS STORY TO MYSELF, BUT

I COULDN'T DARE.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

Efrem: WHY DID YOU

NEED TO SHARE IT?

IT WAS PROFOUNDLY

OBVIOUS THAT WAS GIVEN THE

PLATFORM I HAD BEEN GIVEN.

I HAD BEEN THROUGH

EVERYTHING I HAD BE BEEN

THROUGH FOR A REAL REASON.

I WISH I COULD HAVE

LEARNED MY LESSON AND

STARTED AGAIN.

ME AND MY FAMILY AND TRY

TO DO BETTER, BUT THE

STORY WAS JUST SO HUGE.

AND I HAD SO MANY PEOPLE

WHO HAD FOLLOWED ME

THROUGH MY CAREER THAT I

HAD TO TELL THE ENTIRE

TRUTH TO.

I HAD TO GIVE THEM BOTH

SIDES OF THE STORY.

WE HAD BEEN PUTTING OUT

MUSIC AND ALBUMS.

AND, YOU KNOW, VERY

INFLUENTIAL, AND NOT IN A

POSITIVE WAY.

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS TRUE

AND ACCURATE.

I SHARED IT, AND I FELT I

HAD TO TELL EVERYTHING

THAT CAME ALONG WITH IT.

Efrem: I WANT TO TALK

A LITTLE MORE ABOUT YOUR

JOURNEY AND YOUR WALK

THROUGH THIS.

IT FELT LIKE A WRESTLING

MATCH WATCHING SOME OF IT.

I THINK PHARRELL SAID YOU

HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A

RIGHTEOUS PERSON, IN HIS

MIND.

KNOCK, KNOCK, WHAT UP?

WHAT'S UP, BABY?

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH

YOU, BRO?

JUST GROWING UP WITH

PHARRELL WAS FUNNY.

PHARRELL WAS ALWAYS THAT

KIND OF GUY WHO COULD TALK

YOU INTO ANYTHING.

IT WOULD SOUND SO

FAR-FETCHED, BUT THE MORE

YOU LISTEN, IT WAS LIKE

THIS GUY REALLY BELIEVES

IN HIMSELF.

AND IN TURN, YOU WOULD

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

AND YOU JUST SAW THAT IT

COULD HAPPEN.

GENE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A

RIGHTEOUS PERSON.

I NEVER TOLD HIM THIS, BUT

YOU COULD ALWAYS SEE THERE

WAS A PART OF HIM THAT

TORE WHENEVER HE DID

SOMETHING DEEP DOWN INSIDE

HE FELT WASN'T REALLY

RIGHT.

EVEN WHEN HE WAS IN THE

STREETS, IN THE MIDDLE OF

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

ARE OFTEN FROWNED UPON,

YOU COULD ALWAYS SEE,

LIKE, AT THE BOTTOM OF ONE

OF HIS EYES, IT DIDN'T

FEEL RIGHT.

HE WAS 100% ACCURATE

WITH THAT.

NOT SO MUCH RIGHTEOUSNESS.

I DEFINITELY SHY AWAY FROM

THAT WORD, ESPECIALLY AT

THAT TIME.

I WAS ALWAYS A VOICE OF

REASON TO MY PEERS.

AND EVEN THOUGH I ENGAGED

IN EVERYTHING THEY ENGAGED

IN, IT DIDN'T SIT WELL

WITH ME.

I WASN'T TOTALLY AT HOME.

I KNEW THAT IT HAD TO BE

MORE THAN THIS.

YOU KNOW?

AND I WASN'T FULFILLED.

THERE WAS DEFINITELY AN

EMPTINESS.

AND TO HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT

MANY PEOPLE THINK IS THE

AMERICAN DREAM AND STILL

NOT BE FULFILLED, WELL,

THAT ONLY FRUSTRATED ME

MORE.

Efrem: SO IN DOING

THAT AND LIVING THAT, YOU

WEREN'T HAVING A GOOD

TIME?

NO, I WASN'T.

AND WHEN I DID HAVE A GOOD

TIME, IT WAS ONLY TO FIND

OUT AFTERWARDS I WAS IN

MORE MISERY.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT

12th AND COLLINS, RIGHT

HERE IN MIAMI.

AT THE MARLAND'S SOUTHEAST

STUDIO.

WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY

HERE.

"HELL HATH NO FURY," AND

"UNTIL THE CASKET DROPS."

THIS PLACE HOLDS A LOT OF

MEMORIES.

Efrem: LOOKING BACK

AT YOUR MUSIC CATALOG, IN

LIGHT OF WHERE YOU ARE

RIGHT NOW, AND WHEN WE

LOOK BACK AND WE SEE IN

THE DOCUMENTARY, YOU

WATCHING SOME OLD

FOOTAGE -- WHAT DO YOU

THINK OF THAT CATALOG THAT

PEOPLE STILL LOVE AND

LISTEN TO?

ONE THING I KNOW THAT I

CAN'T DO IS I CAN'T DENY

IT.

"MALICE" HAPPENED.

"ECLIPSE" HAPPENED, AND

THAT MUSIC TO THIS MEANS A

LOT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

Efrem: WHEN I TALK TO

PEOPLE ABOUT YOU AND YOUR

MUSIC, IT AMAZES ME -- AND

YOUR BROTHERS, OF

COURSE -- THEY STILL WANT

TO SEE YOU BACK TOGETHER.

WHAT THEY WANT IS THE

CLIPS AND THEY WANT THAT

TYPE OF MUSIC.

THEY WANT THAT ENERGY.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO

PAINT THAT CATALOG.

THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.

THERE IS NO WAY WE COULD

COME BACK TOGETHER AND DO

THAT SAME THING.

NOW, I DO HAPPEN TO

KNOW -- I'LL LET YOU IN ON

A LITTLE SECRET.

I KNOW WE CAN STILL COME

BACK TOGETHER AND MAKE

EDIFYING MUSIC THAT

CRUSHES EVERYTHING OUT

THERE.

I KNOW THAT THAT CAN

HAPPEN.

AND I PRAY THAT ONE DAY

GOD MAKES THAT HAPPEN.

ALL I KNOW IS I WAS

JUST HEARING TOO MUCH

STUFF.

I HAD TO GO.

I HAD TO GO.

IT WAS TAKEN FRO TAKING FROM MY

SPIRIT.

THERE IS NO COLLEGE

COURSE FOR DEALING WITH

FAME AND SUCCESS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE GIVEN A

COCKTAIL LIKE THAT, THERE

IS NO COLLEGE COURSE ON

HOW TO DRINK IT.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SIP

SLOW.

Efrem: HE HAS A

POTCAST WITH THE ICEMAN,

AND IT IS CALLED "THE

RE-ENVISON PODCAST."

I SAMPLED IT, AND IT IS

CERTAINLY WORTH A LISTEN.

AND BE SURE TO CHECK OUT

"THE END OF MALICE"

DOCUMENTARY FOR YOURSELF.

> STILL AHEAD ON "STUDIO

5," THE WHITE CHAIR IS THE

SIGNATURE OF AN "I AM

SECOND" STORY.

I THINK THE BEGINNING

OF "I AM SECOND," HAS BEEN

OUR DESIRE TO BE A VOICE

OF RESTORATION.

Efrem: MEET THE

PRODUCER BEHIND THE FILM

THAT UNFOLDED WHEN "NO

IT WAS THAT MOMENT THAT

I REALLY REALIZED I WANTED

TO CHANGE.

SO I WENT AND FOUND A

BIBLE I HAD FROM, LIKE, MY

EIGHTH GRADE CONFIRMATION.

IT WAS THE ONLY BIBLE I

HAD.

AND I OPENED IT UP, AND I

STARTED LOOKING UP SOME OF

THESE VERSES.

AND THAT TOOK ME TO THE

PSALMS.

THEY WERE SO RICH AND THEY

WERE SO REAL.

THEY JUST, LIKE, JUMPED

OFF THE PAGE.

AND I REMEMBER I WOULD

JUST READ THE PSALMS AND I

WOULD JUST, LIKE, CRY.

Efrem: THAT'S A

SAMPLE OF ONE OF THE

BEAUTIFUL FROM TOLD

STORIES PRODUCED BY "I AM

SECOND."

AND THEY PRODUCED THE "END

OF MALICE" DOCUMENTARY.

FOR A CLOSER LOOK AT "I AM

SECOND" WE'RE SITTING DOWN

WITH PRODUCER BRANDON

RICK'S.

I USED TO WATCH RAP

VIDEOS IN MY GRANDMOTHERS

HOUSE.

BUT I WAS TOO LITTLE.

I FOUND PEOPLE TO LOOK UP

TO.

THERE WERE NO BARACK

OBAMAS.

NO MARTIN LUTHER KINGS.

THEY ALL PASSED AWAY.

I'VE BEEN TRAPPED SINCE

BIRTH.

AND THEY SAY IT'S THE

WHITE MAN I SHOULD SEE.

IT'S MY OWN KIND DOING ALL

OF THE KILLING HERE.

Efrem: FOR SOMEONE

WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND

WHAT "I AM SECOND" IS,

WHAT IS IT?

"I AM SECOND" IS A WAY

FOR US TO REACH THE

CULTURE IN UNIQUE AND

SPECIAL WAYS.

WE ARE TRYING TO

COMMUNICATE AND MESSAGE TO

PEOPLE ALL ACROSS OUR

COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE

WORLD, EVEN, AS THE WORLD

WIDE WEB HAS EXPANDED THE

REACH OF CONTENT.

THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH

THE SAME STRUGGLES.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE

SAME ISSUES.

DEALING WITH ANXIETY AND

DEPRESSION AND ADDICTION.

AND WHATEVER THOSE ILLS

MAY BE AS A SOCIETY, AS A

HUMAN BEING, WE HAVE MORE

POINTS OF RELATION THAN WE

REALIZE.

AND THE STORY IS A

PHENOMENAL WAY FOR US TO

BE ABLE TO CONNECT.

HAVING A SECRET JUST

EATS AT YOU.

YOU FEEL LIKE A LIAR, AND

YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP

FOR THIS THING.

YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE FUN,

BUT YOU REALLY CAN'T EVEN

HAVE FUN BECAUSE, YOU

KNOW, YOU'VE JUST WRONGED

HER.

THE POINT OF "I AM

SECOND" IS HOW CAN WE TELL

AUTHENTIC, REAL STORIES,

THAT RESONATE WITH PEOPLE.

AND THAT POINT PEOPLE TO A

TRUE COMPASS, TO A TRUE

NORTH.

IN THIS CASE, WE CAPTURED

STORIES FROM ENTERTAINERS,

ATHLETES, TO EVERY DAY

PEOPLE YOU MAY NOT EVEN

RECOGNIZE IN A GROCERY

STORE.

BUT THEY ALL SHARE

COMMONALITY.

WHEN THEY HAVE GONE

THROUGH LIFE AND THEY'VE

SEEN THE STORMS COME, AND

THE DIFFERENT THINGS

THEY'VE DEALT WITH,

WHETHER IT BE SUCCESS OR

FAME, OR FALLING OFF OF A

HIGH HORSE OR WHATEVER

THAT IS, THAT WHEN THEY

PUT GOD AND OTHERS FIRST

IN THEIR LIFE, THAT IS

WHEN THEY HAVE FOUND TRUE

PURPOSE AND FULFILLMENT.

Efrem: YOU HAVE

CHOSEN TO DO GENE

THORNTON'S STORY.

YES.

WHEN YOU SEE THE INFLUENCE

THAT HIP-HOP HAS ON THE

BLACK COMMUNITY, AND ON

THE COMMUNITY AS A

WHOLE -- IT HAS PENETRATED

ALL FACETS OF OUR CULTURE

AND ACROSS THE WORLD -- I

REALLY DIDN'T SEE A FILM

WITHIN OUR REPERTOIRE THAT

SPOKE TO THE CONDITION OF

YOUNG BLACK MALES THAT ARE

PRONE TO BE VERY MUCH

INFLUENCED BY HIP-HOP,

THAT LIVE IN ENVIRONMENTS

OF HIGH POVERTY, HIGH

CRIME, HIGH RATES OF

LAWLESSNESS.

I DIDN'T SEE A FILM THAT

WOULD REALLY GET TO THE

CORE AT WHAT THESE YOUNG

MEN ARE GOING THROUGH.

BEING A HIP-HOP SINGER

MYSELF, I WAS VERY

FAMILIAR WITH THE CLIPS

AND THE V.A. SOUND THAT

WAS BIRTHED HERE FROM

PHARRELL AND TIMBERLAND

AND MISS ELLIOT.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT HE

WALKED AWAY FROM THE FAME

AT THE HEIGHT OF HIS

CAREER.

THINGS WENT TO LITTLE

OFF TO THE LEFT, I WOULD

BE ANGRY OR UPSET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU

THOUGHT I WAS JOKING WHEN

I TOLD YOU: I'M NOT DOING

IT ANYMORE.

THE ONLY TIME HE'S

WRITING THEM RHYMES IS HE

IS ASKING QUESTIONS THAT

HE ALREADY KNEW THE

ANSWERS TO.

HE ALREADY KNEW THE

ANSWERS.

IT'S WHAT YOU HAVE ON

THE INSIDE IS WHAT YOU'RE

SUPPOSED TO BE GROUNDED

WITH.

Efrem: YOU WANT TO

STAY CONNECTED RIGHT HERE

TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE

FOCUS OF THOSE COMPELLING

FILMS.

> STILL TO COME ON

"STUDIO 5"...

I SAID, IS THIS REALLY

ABOUT ME?

OR IS REALLY ABOUT YOU?

Efrem: A MIXED

MARTIAL ARTS FIGHTER FACES

A BIGGER BATTLE OUTSIDE

THE RING.

Efrem: "THE FIGHT

WITHIN" IS A STORY ABOUT A

MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FIGHTER

SEEKING TO OVERCOME A

TROUBLED PAST AND BUILD A

NEW LIFE.

BASED ON HIS NEW FAITH AND

NEW LOVE.

WE'RE GIVING YOU A FIRST

LOOK AT THE FILM AS IT

HEADS TO D.V.D.

I WANT TO ASK YOU A

QUESTION THIS MORNING: WHO

ARE YOU?

BY THAT, I MEAN, WHAT

DEFINES YOU?

I DIDN'T ASK YOU WHAT YOU

DO FOR A LIVING?

I DIDN'T ASK YOU WHAT YOUR

NAME IS.

BUT WHO ARE YOU?

YOU'RE A FIGHTER.

THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

I DON'T GET IT.

I WAS A FIGHTER.

I GUESS I WAS JUST BORN

INTO IT.

I SAID, IS THIS REALLY

ABOUT ME?

OR IS IT ABOUT YOU?

AND YOUR PAST STORY.

I REMIND MYSELF ABOUT

GOD'S PLAN FOR MY LIFE.

GOD'S PLAN.

GOD HAS A PLAN FOR

EVERYONE.

Efrem: WHY MAKE A

FAITH-BASED FILM ABOUT

MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.

WE USE THE METAPHOR OF

FIGHTING WITH OUR JOURNEY

OF OUR CHRISTIAN WALK.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE

FOR GOD AND FOR CHRIST,

YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES

THAT A LOT OF TIMES THE

WORLD WON'T AGREE WITH.

Efrem: "THE FIGHT

WITHIN" IS AVAILABLE ON

D.V.D. RIGHT NOW AND ON

ONLINE PLATFORMS AS WELL.

BE SURE TO CHECK IT OUT.

> STILL AHEAD ON "STUDIO

5," GETTING BACK TO THE "I

AM SECOND" CHAIR FOR

ANOTHER LOOK AT ANOTHER

ARTIST WHO SIGNED IT.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "STUDIO 5."

TIME FOR A SNEAK PEEK AT

WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR

NEXT WEEK'S EPISODE.

*

Efrem: THE SIGHTS AND

SOUNDS OF THE HOLIDAY

SEASON POINT TO A "STUDIO

5" CHRISTMAS EDITION, WITH

A SPECIAL GIFT-GIVING

GUIDE.

EFREM?

YES, SIR.

I THINK I KNOW WHAT I'M

GOING TO GET YOU FOR

CHRISTMAS?

Efrem: REALLY, WHAT'S

THAT?

I GUESS IT IS BETTER THAN

A TIE.

SEE WHY "STUDIO 5" IS

GOING TO THE ANIMALS NEXT

WEEK.

THAT EPISODE IS SURE TO

GET YOU IN THE CHRISTMAS

SPIRIT.

IT MAKES SENSE, THOUGH, TO

END THIS SHOW WITH A

MESSAGE FROM THE FAMOUS "I

AM SECOND" WHITE CHAIR.

TODAY I AM GIVING THE

FINAL WORD TO PROPAGANDA.

THE ARTIST EXPLAINS WHY

GOD ALLOWED HIM TO FEEL

LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER

FOR MOST OF HIS LIFE.

AND HOW THAT FEELING LED

TO HIM DISCOVERING HIS

LIFE'S PURPOSE.

I THINK THERE WAS A

MOMENT WHEN MY FATHER

FINALLY POINTED TO A

PARTICULAR PASSAGE, PSALMS

139, "BEFORE YOU WERE IN

THE WOMB, I KNEW YOU.

YOU ARE FEARFULLY AND

WONDERFULLY MADE."

AND I THINK THAT IT WAS

THERE THAT I REALIZED THAT

MY VALUE IS NOT DETERMINED

BY SOME PARTICULAR INNATE

QUALITY THAT I HAVE.

NO.

YOUR VALUE IS BECAUSE GOD

WAS WILLING TO PAY THE

COST OF HIS SON FOR YOU.

EVERY HURT, EVERY FAILURE,

BEING SPIT ON WALKING

HOME, LIKE ALL OF THIS, IT

IS ON PURPOSE.

YOU ARE FEARFULLY AND

WONDERFULLY MADE.

YOU'RE EXACTLY WHAT I WANT

YOU TO BE.

YOU ARE LOOKING AT A

RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE

THRONE, TH.

WE NEVER HAD NOTHING, BUT

NOTHING WAS SUFFICIENT.

IT KEPT MY BELLY FULL WITH

THE STUFF THE RICH WAS

MISSING, AND THAT'S

BEAUTIFUL.

Efrem: A GOOD WORD

AND TODAY'S FINAL WORD.

UNTIL NEXT TIME, BE SURE

TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH ME

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