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News on The 700 Club: February 10, 2017

As seen on "The 700 Club," February 10: What's Trump's next move after appeals court defeat?, Planned Parenthood pressured clinics to meet abortion quotas, former employees say, and more. Read Transcript


Well, welcome to the "700 Club."

It looks like President Trump will take

his case to the Supreme Court.

That move would come after the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

refused to reinstate his temporary immigration order.

Critics called it a setback for the President,

but he called the court's decision political.

Dale Hurd has the story.

DALE HURD (VOICEOVER): The judges

on the panel from the San Francisco-based 9th US Circuit

Court of Appeals said that the argument that the order targets

Muslims raised "serious allegations"

and presented "significant constitutional questions."

The panel declined to block a lower court ruling that

suspended the order and allowed previously-barred travelers

to enter the US.

Moments after the ruling, President Trump

was sounding as if he would appeal to the Supreme Court,

tweeting, "See you in court.

The security of our nation is at stake."

We've seen him in court twice.

And we're two-for-two.

Opponents of the President's executive order

may be gloating now, but the 9th Circuit Court

is the most overturned appeals court in the country.

In 2012, the Supreme Court overturned

86% of the cases that came to it from the 9th.

The court is so liberal, critics have called it the 9th Circus.

The Justice Department says it's reviewing the decision

and considering its options.

The decision came down on the first day on the job

for new Attorney General Jeff Sessions,

who was sworn in at the White House Thursday.

Law professor Rory Little does not

think the Trump Administration stands a good chance of victory

if it appeals to a divided eight-member Supreme Court.

You know, if the Trump Administration wants

to take it to the Supreme Court for an emergency motion

to Justice Kennedy, who sits as the circuit

justice for this part of the United States,

they can do that.

But that court is now divided, we think, four to four

with eight members.

They don't have a ninth member.

And so I don't see how the Trump Administration would expect

to win at the US Supreme Court.

DALE HURD (VOICEOVER): But other court watchers

disagree and believe the Trump Administration

could win at the high court.

Meanwhile, the "Washington Times"

reports the State Department has more than doubled

the rate of refugees from Iraq, Syria,

and other suspect countries in the weeks since the President's

travel ban was blocked, in what some analysts believe

is a push to admit as many people as possible

before another court puts a stop to it.

The legal battle over the President's order

is happening as Democratic senators

have moved very slowly on confirming Trump's cabinet

picks.

The Senate has finally voted on Congressman Tom Price

to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.

And the controversy over the presidential action

on immigrants could up the stakes

on another upcoming confirmation fight,

over the President's Supreme Court nominee Judge Neil

Gorsuch.

Dale Hurd, CBN News.

Well, our CBN News political correspondent David Brody

is with us now from Washington.

And David, I guess the question of the day,

do you think Trump is going to take this case to the Supreme

Court?

Well, it is the question of the day.

Gordon, I can tell you some of my sources

inside the White House, as a matter of fact,

one administration official saying to me privately

just a few minutes ago that they are looking

at all of the options now.

It is all undecided.

It's fluid at this point, Gordon.

And the question I had asked to this White House administration

official are what are the chances that they'll

take it to the Supreme Court.

They just don't know right now.

The problem with taking it to the Supreme Court, as you know,

it would most likely be a 4-4 decision.

There are not nine Supreme Court justices there.

So there is a problem there, of course.

And then, of course, you have other options.

What they could do is take it possibly

back to this three-judge panel, unlikely.

They could take it to the full 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Or at some point, they may have to figure out

how to actually tailor-make this executive order

to refine it more.

And I think that's a definite possibility, something

that they're looking at right now.

Well, given that the State Department is now

seemingly accelerating the granting of visas

to refugees from these countries, I would say,

at the very least, shouldn't the Trump Administration just

issue a new order if it wants to leave the current one,

just issue a new order saying, no new visas

for these countries until we figure out our vetting process.

Well, absolutely, and that is what they're looking at.

When this administration official

said they're looking at all options,

that is one of them, Gordon.

So that's a good point.

And so I think we wait to see what happens going forward.

But clearly, there are some problems

as it relates to the rushing of this Executive Order.

One of the problems that Donald Trump is

going to have through these four years is the word "patience."

Patience is a virtue, not sure how much Donald Trump has

of that skill at times.

There is something called co-equal branches

of government.

He's a businessman.

He wants to get things done quickly and fast,

and he's an outsider.

He's also bringing in some outsiders,

like Steve Bannon and others.

And so what you're going to have is some missteps along the way.

This seems to be at least a misstep in the sense

that it wasn't maybe drafted as cleanly as possible.

Remember, this 9th Circuit did not

judge the legality of the executive order.

There, the White House believes they are very

much in their legal rights.

Well, though, what they're saying

is it raises constitutional issues.

And one of the big constitutional issues

is due process, if you already have a valid green card,

you already have a valid visa.

Has that been taken to you--

taken from you without due process.

If you just issue an order saying,

no new visas are going to be issued,

then you completely avoid that issue.

There is no constitutional class to bring a suit.

So that maybe the next thing.

Let's talk about the Muslim Brotherhood.

In your interview with him, you talked to him

about labeling that group as a terrorist organization.

Does this decision, does this case have any impact on that?

The word is that it does.

It's not to the point yet where the White House is not

going to label the Muslim Brotherhood

a terrorist organization, or I should

say the State Department.

But there is definitely more of a calculation

at this point as to how much good that would

do at this point, coming on the heels of all

of this controversy with the so-called Muslim ban.

And I keep going back to the word "so-called"

because the last time I checked, there is now a report,

if you look into the statistics, 75% or more of Muslims around

the world wouldn't be banned from coming into the United

States.

But yet the media still calls it a Muslim ban,

so that's sloppy reporting by the media for sure.

Well, it's also been part of the case.

The attorney general for the state of Washington

is driving that point home repeatedly.

He's talking about statements made in the campaign,

and he's saying that's showing intent in terms of the order.

So that's going to be litigated and probably litigated

in a circuit and in a district court that

certainly doesn't seem to be friendly to the administration.

Well, and I would also point out, Gordon,

that one of the issues here would be--

we'll not say an issue.

But look, CBN, our interview could actually

play into all of this because remember the question I asked

him during that interview about Christians,

will Christians be a priority in the refugee process.

And Donald Trump said, absolutely, they would be.

And as a matter of fact, that was brought up

in that 9th Circuit hearing.

As I was listening, I was kind of geeking out, if you will,

listen to some of the audio.

And the plaintiff's attorneys there did bring that up.

So it will be interesting to see if some of those words

come back to haunt the administration.

Well, what he said was absolutely true.

There seemed to be a discrimination

against Christians coming out of Syria.

They were 10% of the population, but 0.5%

of the refugee population.

So someone was saying, we're not going to let Christians

in from Syria.

It seems that there was no discrimination coming out

of Iraq.

Why it was in Syria, I have no idea.

It obviously politicizes, if you can politicize

even more, the confirmation of Judge Gorsuch for the Supreme

Court.

Is this going to have an impact on that?

Well, I don't know if it'll have a direct impact on it.

I will say this, that clearly what we've seen apparently

is that the judge, as you've read about,

has indeed said "disheartening," that these comments by Donald

Trump have been disheartening, as it

relates to some of what he said about the judge

and the judiciary.

So what it's going to do now is put

Gorsuch on the spot in his confirmation hearing

because this is now going to come up.

And so the question is, the question

will be how much will this be a political problem for the White

House.

Look, the reality here, Gordon, is that the Republicans

are going to need eight senators, Democrat

senators to get Judge Gorsuch over the top.

And it looks like he'll probably have those

because there are many moderate senators from red seats,

or excuse me, red states that Donald Trump won,

people like Joe Manchin and John Tester, Heidi Heitkamp,

these type of Democrat moderate senators

who should go along with the nomination,

so he should be fine.

All right.

Well, last question, what do you think

about the Johnson Amendment getting that repealed?

Is that now on a backburner based

on what's happening with the court system?

Or are we going to see that pushed through?

It's on a backburner for now.

I think there's a dot, dot, dot extended to that, Gordon,

in which it's look, President Trump, and at the time

candidate Trump, had been telling our viewers all along

that the Johnson Amendment would be repealed.

He has told me publicly that.

He has actually told me privately that, as well.

I mean, he's serious about doing this.

The question becomes what's the timing and in what form.

You know, of course, there is the Johnson

Amendment in congressional form in a bill that's out there.

But there is also the possibility

of an executive order.

But right now, how much water can you

have in the boat as it relates to damage control and executive

orders?

So I don't think the Johnson Amendment will be coming

by any sort of Executive Order.

It will have to come through Congress.

Having said that, because that's the repeal, having said that,

there is talk about putting some Johnson Amendment

language in some sort of Executive Order,

maybe on religious freedom.

But that is all still to be worked out.

Boy, they've got a lot going on left and right.

So this is on the backburner for now, Gordon.

Well, my personal preference is it goes through Congress,

becomes law, get rid of that.

In that way, if a new president comes in,

he's able to issue a new executive order.

I'd much rather have it be the law of the land

and get rid of that.

It's an unconstitutional restriction

on political speech, and it needs to go.

Well, he's looking at doing it for sure.

And remember, there is this religious freedom executive

order that was bandied about, talked

about that he was going to do, that also on the backburner.

That is the First Amendment bill that's on Capitol Hill

right now.

I think the White House hopes that that will also

move legislatively in terms of helping religious freedom

rights of Christians and others when it comes

towards practicing their private conscience in business

and in public policy, if you will.

So that's going through legislatively.

And I think the White House hopes

it goes that way rather than having to issue

an executive order about that.

We'll see.

It's TBA right now.

Well, David, thanks for being with us.

And if you want to catch up on David Brody and the latest

coming out of Washington, out of the White House,

all you have to do is go to the Brody File.

You can find it on cbnnews.com.

Wendy.

It's a great show, and very entertaining, too.

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The growth of radical Islam helped

make 2016 one of the worst years ever for Christian persecution.

Christians in a predominantly Muslim region of Central Asia

continue to face almost daily harassment

for sharing the gospel.

Even so, many young professionals in the five

so-called "stan" states are boldly spreading the gospel.

George Thomas brings us that story from Kyrgyzstan.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): A Christian living

in any of the five former Soviet republics

of Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan,

or Turkmenistan can expect intimidation,

harassment, or worse, jail time for telling others

about their faith.

Artur, not his real name, is from Uzbekistan.

INTERPRETER: I am called to be a witness for Christ,

but that has been a dangerous calling.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Maksim lives

in northern Tajikistan.

INTERPRETER: When the authorities discover

someone has converted to Christianity,

they will gather relatives, friends,

and family of the accused and bring him

or her before an Islamic Council of Elders.

The convert then stands before the group

and has to decide between faith or family.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): 25 years

after the Soviet Union disappeared and these republics

gained their independence, the five so-called "stan" states

have become repressive and hostile towards people

of faith.

GEORGE THOMAS: In recent years, Christians

have come under intense pressure here in Central Asia.

In fact, in an attempt to crackdown on radical Islam,

these five governments have enacted laws

curbing their activities.

But here's the problem.

Instead of going after Muslims, these governments

are using these laws to go after Christians.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Dr. Michael Cherenkov

follows religious freedom issues in the former Soviet Union.

INTERPRETER: These laws have forced Christians

to be more creative and invent new approaches

to sharing the gospel.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Cherenkov

says while churches and Christian organizations

raise suspicion, individual relationships go virtually

unnoticed.

INTERPRETER: We are discovering that being a witness for Christ

in the workplace is probably the only safe and effective form

of evangelization.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): On a recent Saturday morning,

hundreds of young Christians from across the region

met for their first-ever Next Generation Professional Leaders

Initiative.

The event was the brainchild and dream of Sergey Rakhuba.

INTERPRETER: It is not possible to overstate the significance

of the gathering.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): He grew up in the former Soviet

Union and remembers what it was like as a young Christian

trying to discover his purpose in life.

INTERPRETER: I was not allowed to study in the universities

because I was a Christian.

And throughout the whole territory of the Soviet Union,

you could not find even one Christian professor,

Christian doctor, or Christian lawyer.

Even the word business was a foreign word

for Christians at that time.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Rakhuba brought together

entrepreneurs, doctors, educators, lawyers,

and media experts to teach young professionals

how to be effective witnesses for Christ in the marketplace.

INTERPRETER: This is a generation

that didn't grow up in a secular and repressive Soviet mindset.

So they have a unique perspective,

unique gifts and talents that can bring transformation

into their communities.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): 31-year-old Urmat works

as an IT specialist from Kyrgyzstan.

INTERPRETER: While it's not always

easy to talk openly about faith, I'm

learning that my deeds should speak louder than my words,

and that building long-term relationships is vital.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): 17-year-old Miriam

teaches English in Kazakhstan.

INTERPRETER: My parents and all my relatives

are against me because I'm a Christian.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): She says

meeting others who have also endured much for their faith

and still want to be used by God was a huge encouragement.

INTERPRETER: This gathering is also important

because it's teaching us how to safely combine our profession

with our passion for Christ.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Yevgeny is a media specialist.

INTERPRETER: To see a lot of young people

who are really interested in being useful for God

is inspiring to me.

This has also been a wonderful opportunity to network

with others.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): Rakhuba

says it's up to these young professionals

to instill Biblical values into their societies.

Only then will they see lasting change.

INTERPRETER: Even though Islam is the dominant religion

and the radical Islam is becoming more influential here,

I am so blessed to witness the courage

and confidence demonstrated by young Christians in Central

Asia.

GEORGE THOMAS (VOICEOVER): George Thomas, CBN News,

Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.

Witnessing Christ in spite of the persecution.

If you go back 1,300 years, you find

that this is the Silk Road.

This is the path from what was the Byzantine Empire

to the capital of the Tang Chinese.

And along that route, Nestorian Christians went,

and they established Christian communities.

The Uyghurs were predominantly Christian 1,300 years ago.

And to see a rebirth and regrowth of Christianity

in Central Asia, it's wonderful.

We need to pray for them, pray for their protection,

and pray that there would be an opportunity

to share the gospel.

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