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Seeing the Light of God Through the Fog of Life

Fox News Chief Religion Correspondent Lauren Green discusses her new book, 'Lighthouse Faith: God as a Living Reality in a World Immersed in Fog.’ Read Transcript


NARRATOR: As chief religion correspondent for Fox News,

Lauren Green has covered amazing stories,

including miraculous healings and events featuring

the world's most prominent spiritual leaders.

Some religious experts she has encountered

view God as a distant, impersonal figure.

But Lauren believes He has a hands-on presence in our lives.

In her book "Lighthouse Faith," Lauren

shares what she found in her personal study

of the Christian faith and how we

can develop a deeper relationship with a caring,

loving God.

Well, joining me now is author and chief religion

correspondent for Fox News Lauren green.

Lauren, thanks for being here.

Andrew, thank you so much for having me.

I loved your book.

But I'm so impressed that you actually read it.

You shouldn't be so surprised.

Just read it in complete because I know a lot of people

don't have time to read the book before they do the interview.

But you did.

There's some heavy duty stuff in here.

It's deep stuff.

It's a lot deeper than the title would suggest, I think.

And I think one of the reasons why it got rejected early on

is because it was it was very technical, very

much on science and faith, very much theological in its depth.

And so they said, we just need to be a little lighter.

We need to be a little-- so there's

a lot of stuff that was actually left out because of that.

Well, reading this book, it's obvious this is a very

smart intelligent author.

But not only was I blown away by some of the insights

you had, but on a personal level,

you describe a time where you were

going through some challenges professionally and personally.

And there was a season there where you thought,

God, are you here.

Are you active in my life?

Tell us about that.

I think a lot of people go through these kinds of things.

It can be a job change.

It can be a failed relationship.

It can be anything.

That's just the normal course of life.

A child who gets sick or a parent whose health is waning.

These are the kinds of challenges.

And you wonder, God, is this what life is all about.

And I think those are the kinds of things that really create

in you this idea that is God more of a concept to me

or is a living reality.

And a lot of people-- like one pastor,

said-- live their lives without acknowledging God.

They sort of go about their lives

without thinking that God is around.

But then when things happen in their lives,

they go, God, why did you allow this.

So if you can bring those two together--

you can actually live your life knowing that God is there--

those kinds of things won't disturb your life that much.

And fortunately for you, you had a firm foundation.

And part of that is because of the question your pastor asked,

a very noteworthy pastor.

Who is he and what was the question?

Oh, it was Dr. Tim Keller, who many people know.

He's the senior minister-- getting ready to step down,

actually-- the senior minister of Redeemer Presbyterian

in New York.

And he asked many very profound questions,

but this was one of those aha moments in my life,

where he talked about the difference between God

as a concept and God as a living reality.

And I think that's a very, very important thing for people

to understand because a concept is

something you still believe in.

A lot of people believe in God.

But is God more of a concept to you?

Meaning you control it.

You decide what it's going to be.

It's like a gym membership.

It's like a credit card.

It's like I want to go shopping at the mall today.

That's a God as a concept.

But then God as a living reality is an objective truth

to which you mould your life.

And that was the challenge.

Do I know enough about God to mold my life

to his doctrines, his precepts, his demands of my life?

And that really was an incredible challenge.

So what do you mean you've had this discovery that God is

really hiding in plain sight?

What do you mean by that?

The discovery really was a look back at a childhood game

my aunt Rita told us.

Actually, she didn't told us.

She actually played this game with us

because we were two rambunctious little girls.

ANDREW: She was very dear to you.

Yes, she was very dear.

And she had a great deal of faith.

This is a woman who taught in one room schoolhouses yea old.

She This is a great aunt.

This is not just an aunt.

And she would just hide an object--

a comb or a hair brush or a fork or something common--

and put it in like a living room.

And it would be in plain sight.

But you'd have to find it.

You'd have to search for it.

And sometimes it was hard to see because it

was amongst things that you had looked at in a different way.

And when you saw it, then you said [INAUDIBLE].

And then somebody else would like, where is it, where is it.

I kind of understood that God was

kind of playing this cosmic game of bunken with us.

And I think that's where, as I was trying to explain,

this structure of the Ten Commandments-- it then

became obvious that God was playing this cosmic game

of bunken with us.

He's hiding in plain sight.

ANDREW: He loves for us to discover Him again and again

and again.

And in so many different ways.

And this is why I broke down the book into the partitions

of the Trinity.

I thought that, if this structure of the Ten

Commandments is a template for all law,

perhaps we could actually break down the Godhead

into its component parts, into the being

in whose three persons-- the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

And if Christianity was objectively true--

not true because I believe it, but objectively true--

I should be able to see evidence of those three things

in the world.

And that's where it began to really take shape.

And it became quite powerful for me.

ANDREW: One of the most interesting parts of your book

to me was you're a reporter.

You're reporting a lot of different things,

a lot of different places.

You go into Times Square to do some interviews with people

about the Ten Commandments.

And you were pretty shocked by the transparency.

Oh, my goodness.

I couldn't believe that anybody would

start to admit to things that they were admitting to.

You go in with the list of the Ten Commandments--

because I knew most people didn't know the list.

And so you're with a camera.

It's not as if I'm just talking to them.

But all of a sudden it was like they

were confessing their sins.

People were admitting to adultery, to almost

near murder, to stealing.

Coveting was a little more nuanced.

They didn't understand the concept of coveting.

But people weren't that resistant to bare their soul.

No.

They were baring their souls.

It really was this idea.

And I thought of that verse, at the name

of Jesus every knee will bow--

that, when they were confronted with the actual law,

that it changed their being.

Like I said before, they said, I am guilty.

I am guilty before the law of God.

And remember.

One of the things that Dr. Keller said

about that structure of the Ten Commandments--

that it's not just a set of arbitrary laws

but an actual description of who God is.

ANDREW: And you say there in a particular order for a reason.

Right, because the first commandment is key--

I am the Lord your God.

You shall have no other gods before me.

Now there is a parenthetical phrase

that says, "I am the Lord your God who brought you out

of slavery, out of the land of Egypt.

Ye shall have no other gods before me."

This is what Moses says to the Israelites.

But he condensed it--

I am the Lord God.

You shall have no other gods before me.

And this I believe is not only just a commandment,

but it's a statement of fact.

So you've got the first commandment,

and it sits atop the other commandments

like a beacon of a lighthouse.

You can't violate commandments two through 10

without first violating number one.

ANDREW: They're not usually viewed as a beacon of a light.

They're viewed as rules, restrictions, things

to keep me down.

Exactly.

And I think one of the things I use

there is the imagery of the laws as they were delivered.

There is the fire on the mountain.

When God delivers those laws to Moses,

it's in the form of a fire.

And he's on top of the mountain.

And here you've got the lighthouse

with this beacon on top of this structure.

And it's like, oh, my gosh.

And I look at the light house as this divine messenger--

I am the Lord your God.

I am the light of the world.

And you can look to me.

ANDREW: Finally, I have to conclude with how important

music is in your life.

In fact, when you were in the Miss America Pageant,

I believe it was--

I've seen the clips of you playing a piano.

I did play the piano.

Well, music is my first love.

I have a piano degree.

So I always thought that I would become

a concert pianist or something.

But it was-- yes, there's the dress.

And there is, yeah, it's after there.

But yes.

I think this whole structure of the Ten Commandments, how

I saw this structure taking out of its moral mores,

I first saw the structure in music.

Then that opened up a whole different world for me.

ANDREW: It's a wonderful book.

I thank you for being with us.

Thank you so much, Andrew.

I encourage you to get it.

If you want to learn more of Lauren's book "Lighthouse

Faith--

God is a Living Reality in a World Immersed

in Fog. is available wherever books are sold

and I highly, highly recommend it.

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