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700 Club Interactive - April 3, 2017

Life, marriage, and gender are under attack; popular blogger Matt Walsh says it’s now or never for the church to take a stand. Read Transcript


IT IS MY GREAT

PLEASURE, THAT I GET MY

SIGNATURE ON A DOCUMENT

TITLED DECREE OF ADOPTION.

Andrew: HE SPENT TIME

IN 11 DIFFERENT HOMES,

UNTIL ONE FAMILY SAID YES.

HEAR HIS INSPIRING STORY

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME

TO THIS SHOW.

YOU MAY NOT RECOGNIZE HIS

NAME OR HIS FACE, BUT IF

YOU'RE ON Facebook OR

TWITTER, CHANCES ARE YOU

HAVE READ OR SHARED ONE OF

HIS ARMS.

TerryARTICLES.

Terry: YOU MAY NOT

AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE

SAYS, BUT ONE THING IS FOR

SURE: HE DOESN'T BACK DOWN

FROM TOUGH ISSUES.

MATT WALSH JOINS US TODAY.

Reporter: HE IS A

NATIONAL WRITER AND

SPEAKER, WHO'S COLUMNS

HAVE GAINED HIM A LARGE

NATIONAL FOLLOWING.

HIS PROVOCATIVE WRITINGS

AND POLITICS AND CULTURE

ARE READ BY MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE A MONTH, AND HE

ENGAGES WITH HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS THROUGH SOCIAL

MEDIA.

HE IS KNOWN AS A FIERCE

AND ARTICULATE DEFENDER OF

TRUTH, MORAL VALUES, AND

THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

WITH HIS NEW BOOK, "THE

UNHOLY TRINITY," WALSH

LAYS OUT A PLAN TO RECLAIM

AMERICAN CULTURE.

Andrew: JOINING US

NOW IS MATT WALSH.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Andrew: YOUR BOOK IS

VERY PROVOCATIVE, AND WHAT

IS THE MEANING BEHIND IT?

THE UNHOLY TRINITY IS

THE EFFORT O IS ON THE LEFT

TO REDEFINE AMERICAN LIFE,

MARRIAGE, AND GENDER.

AND THESE ISSUES ARE THE

CENTER STAGE OF THE

CULTURE WAR.

I WOULD SAY THEY ARE THE

CULTURE WAR.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO

ENGAGE IN FIGHTING FOR THE

CULTURE, WE HAVE TO BE

ENGAGED ON THESE ISSUES.

Terry: MATT, I'M TOLD

WHEN YOU WRITE A BOOK, YOU

SHOULD ALWAYS OPEN WITH A

HOOK TO KEEP PEOPLE

READING.

YOU START YOUR BOOK WITH

"THE FIRST LIBERAL WAS

NAMED LUCIFER."

IT HAD ME HOOKED.

WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT

LIBERALISM IS SO

DANGEROUS?

I DIDN'T JUST SAY THAT

TO INSULT LIBERALS.

I GUESS IT IS NOT EXACTLY

A COMPLIMENT TO COMPARE

THEM WITH LUCIFER.

LIBERALISM TODAY, NO

MATTER WHAT IT WAS 200

YEARS AGO, TODAY IT IS THE

REJECTION OF OBJECTIVE

TRUTH, OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH,

OF GOD.

AND IN THAT -- ONCE

THEY'VE THROWN THAT OUT,

IN THE VOID THEY PUT

THEMSELVES.

AND EVERYTHING BECOMES

RELATIVE TO THEMSELVES.

I WOULD SAY LIBERALISM

TODAY IS SELF-WORSHIP.

THAT IS WHAT SATANISM IS,

THE WORSHIP OF ONE'S SELF.

Andrew: YOU'RE A

VERY, VERY STAUNCH

SUPPORTER OF LIFE AND YOUR

ARGUMENTS ARE POWERFUL.

AND FOR CHRISTIANS, YOU

GIVE A GREAT REMINDER THAT

THIS IS A HUGE, IMPORTANT

ISSUE THAT A LOT OF

CHRISTIANS KIND OF IGNORE.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE 50 MILLION DEAD

HUMAN BEINGS OVER THE LAM

40 OR 50 YEARS.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK ACROSS

THE ENTIRE WORLD, IT IS

50 MILLION A YEAR.

WE ARE SEEING THE WORLD

POPULATION SHRINK BECAUSE

OF THE GENOCIDE OF THE

UNBORN.

SO JUST WHEN YOU LOOK AT

THE SHEAR DEATH TOLL, HOW

CAN WE SKIP OVER THIS OR

SAY, THAT'S AN ISSUE, BUT

IT'S A SIDE ISSUE.

IF THAT'S A SIDE ISSUE,

WHAT'S THE ISSUE BIGGER

THAN THAT?

I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE

TO TELL ME, WHAT IS MORE

IMPORTANT THAN THE MURDER

OF 50 MILLION PEOPLE.

Terry: IT IS HARD TO

GRASP.

THE NUMBERS ARE SO LARGE,

THE IMPACT ISN'T ALWAYS

QUITE AS PERSONAL AS IT

SHOULD BE FOR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT.

WE WANT TO SHOW A

DISTURBING PLANNED

PARENTHOOD VIDEO THAT WAS

RELEASED HOURS AFTER

FELONY CHARGES WERE FILED

AGAINST PRO-LIFE

ACTIVISTS.

IT SHOWS WHAT COULD BE A

COVERUP INFANTCIDE.

[INAUDIBLE]

THERE IS STANDARD

PROCEDURE FOR VERIFYING

IT?

THE THING IS -- I MEAN,

THE THING IS YOU NEED TO

CHOOSE.

[INAUDIBLE]

IT DOES NOT TAKE ME ANY

LONGER...

Terry: WOW.

I MEAN, IT IS JUST HARD TO

UNDERSTAND --

THE LAUGHTER?

Terry: YEAH.

WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO

THAT?

THE FIRST REACTION IS

JUST DISGUST AND ANGER.

I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T FEEL

ANGER WATCHING A VIDEO

LIKE THAT -- I DON'T CARE

HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE SEEN

VIDEOS LIKE THAT, IF YOU

DON'T FEEL ANGER OVER

THAT, YOU'RE AS DEAD

INSIDE AS THAT WOMAN.

THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT,

WE'RE BECOMING SO

DESENSITIZED.

OH, THERE IS AN ABORTION

CLINIC DOUNT THE STREET

WHERDOWN THE STREETWHERE THEY JUST KILL

BABIES, LIKE A D.M.V.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS

SOMEONE WHO'S SOUL IS JUST

DYING INSIDE THEM.

AND IT IS A SAD THING, BUT

IT IS ALSO INFURIATING.

Andrew: MATT, THIS

ISN'T A BOOK THAT JUST

TAKES ON THE LEFT.

WHEN YOU TAKE ON ISSUES

LIKE GAY MARRIAGE, ONE OF

THE THINGS YOU TAKE ON IS

HOW CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN A

PART OF THE BREAKDOWN OF

MARRIAGE.

THIS IS THE ASPECT OF

THE MARRIAGE DISCUSSION WE

DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS.

THE LEFT HAS ACCUSED

CHRISTIANS OF BEING

HYPOCRITES ON MARRIAGE.

WE CARE ABOUT THE SANCTITY

OF MARRIAGE, BUT WE SAY

NOTHING ABOUT DIVORCE AND

ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS,

PORNOGRAPHY, AND OTHER

THINGS THAT SULLY

MARRIAGE.

THEY'RE RIGHT WHEN THEY

MAKE THAT POINT.

AND I HATE IT WHEN THEY

GET TO BE RIGHT ABOUT

SOMETHING, BUT THEY ARE

RIGHT.

WE ABANDONED THE NOTION OF

A SACRED MARITAL COVENANT

DECADES BEFORE GAY

MARRIAGE CAME ALONG.

GAY MARRIAGE WAS JUST A

PROGRESSION, A LOGICAL

PROGRESSION.

IT STARTED WITH US, I

WOULD ARGUE.

Andrew: AND HERE YOU

ARE VERY RECENTLY IN THE

NEWS AGAIN BECAUSE OF

SOMETHING YOU WROTE.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT NOW

MIKE PENCE IS UNDER ATTACK

THAT HE WILL NOT GO OUT

WITH ANOTHER WOMAN ALONE,

OTHER THAN THIS WIFE.

AND YOU'RE PRETTY

PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS

ISSUE, DEFENDING HIM.

I AM OUTRAGED THAT HE

RESPECTS HIS MARRIAGE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT

A MAN RESPECTING HIS

MARRIAGE AND THEY FEEL

ANGRY ABOUT IT.

I THINK PEOPLE HAVE NO

RESPECT FOR MARRIAGE.

AND THEY SEE MONOGOMY --

THEY PROTECT THAT MONOGOMY

AND THEY PUT THESE

PROTECTIONS IN PLACE SO

THEY DON'T TEETER ON THE

EDGE OF INFIDELITY.

PEOPLE SEE IT AS A RELIC

OF A PATRIOTIC PAST.

Andrew: BILLY GRAHAM

HAD THE SAME THOUGHT

PROCESS.

I HAVE NOT READ OF HIM

BEING CRITICIZED FOR HIM,

BUT AS GENERATIONS HAVE

COME ON, IT HAS BECOME

MORE FOOLISH.

I GUESS I'M STILL KIND

OF NAIVE.

EVEN WRITING THE BOOK, I'M

NAIVE ABOUT OUR CULTURE.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS PRETTY

STANDARD OPERATING

PROCEDURE FOR A MARRIAGE.

I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS

CONTROVERSIAL.

SO I'M SURPRISED EVERY DAY

THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.

Terry: YOU SAY GAY

MARRIAGE IS ACTUALLY A

CONTRADICTION IN TERMS.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS THE POINT WE

SHOULD BE MAKING ABOUT GAY

MARRIAGE.

IT IS NOT THAT WE WANT TO

BAN GAY MARRIAGE OR MAKE

IT ILLEGAL.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT

GAY MARRIAGE IS AN

IMPOSSIBILITY BECAUSE

MARRIAGE IS A CERTAIN

THING.

IT IS LIKE GE GEE YOM TREE. GEOMETRY IS

GEOMETRY AND A SQUARE IS A

SQUARE.

SO MARRIAGE, THERE ARE TWO

ELEMENTS, AND IT IS

PROCREATPROPROCREATIVE.

Andrew: IF YOU READ

THE NEWS, YOU WOULD THINK

MOST PEOPLE WALKING THE

PLANET ARE HAVING

TRANSGENDER ISSUES AND

CONCERNS AND STRUGGLES IN

THEIR OWN LIFE.

THERE ARE STATISTICS THAT

SHOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE

TRANSGENDER ISSUE HAS

TAKEN OVER THE CULTURE SO

MUCH.

YOU'VE GOT 12 PEOPLE IN

PORTLAND WHO CALL

THEMSELVES TRANSGENDER,

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT IS

THIS NATIONAL AND

INTERNATIONAL ISSUE.

IT IS NOT ABOUT THE,

QUOTE, UNQUOTE,

TRANSGENDERISM ITSELF.

BUT IF THE LEFT CAN GET

PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THAT

PHILOSOPHY, THINK ABOUT

THE POWER IT GIVES THEM.

WE'VE ACCEPTED THE IDEA

THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH POWER

OVER REALITY, OVER BIOLOGY

THAT WE CAN CHANGE OUR

SEX.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE

LEFT AR IS TRYING TO

ESTABLISH.

EVEN IF TRANSGENDERISM IS

SMALL.

Terry: LIFE,

MARRIAGE, GENDER ARE THE

ISSUES YOU ADDRESS.

WHY THOSE THREE?

YES.

BECAUSE THESE ARE THE

FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES OF ANY

CIVILIZATION.

ANY CIVILIZATION IS BUILT

FIRST ON HUMAN LIFE, ON

THE FAMILY, AND FAMILIES

ARE BUILT ON MARRIAGE.

AND GENDER.

THIS IS ONE WE DIDN'T EVEN

THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO

TALK ABOUT, THE FACT THAT

HUMANE SOCIETY IS BUILT ON

TWO PEOPLE, THE MAN AND

THE WOMAN.

WHEN YOU START BREAKING

DOWN THOSE DEFINITIONS,

THAT PILLAR STARTS TO COME

DOWN.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT

ANYONE WHO CALLS

THEMSELVES A CHRISTIAN OR

A CONSERVATIVE, THESE ARE

THE ISSUES WE NEED TO BE

CONCERNED ABOUT.

Terry: IF YOU WANT TO

HEAR MORE, PICK UP A COPY

OF MATT'S NEW BOOK.

IT IS CALLED "THE UNHOLY

TRINITY."

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT

YOU READ IT.

MATT, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

THANK YOU.

Terry: COMING UP, AN

ARKANSAS TEENAGER SPENT

MORE THAN SIX YEARS IN

FOSTER CARE UNTIL ONE

FAMILY FELT A TUGGING AT

THEIR HEART.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS

THIS AMAZING STORY.

STAY WITH US.

Terry: DON BAILEY

USED TO SAY, THE DAY THAT

I ADOPT WILL BE THE DAY

THAT JESUS DESCENDS FROM

HEAVEN AND TELLS ME TO

ADOPT.

THEN SHE HEARD ABOUT A

TEENAGER TRAPPED IN THE

FOSTER CARE SYSTEM, AND,

WELL, THE REST IS HISTORY.

> 2,310 DAYS, 24 CASE

WORKERS, THREE ATTORNEYS,

11 PLACEMENTS, ONE SUPPORT

SPECIALIST, TWO JUDGES,

EIGHT ATTORNEYS, BUT ONE

FAMILY TO SAY YES.

TODAY, JANUARY 10th,

2017, IS YOUR LAST DAY IN

FOSTER CARE.

I'M SO PROUD OF THE

YOUNG MAN YOU HAVE TURNED

INTO, AND I'M HONORED TO

HAVE BEEN YOUR ADOPTION

SPECIALIST.

*

* LEFT FOR DEAD

* AND I'VE SEEN THE

DARKEST SIDE *

SINCE I'VE BEEN IN

FOSTER CARE, IT HAS BEEN A

LONG RIDE, I GUESS, LIKE

NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE

GOING TO GO.

ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN

FOSTER CARE HAS HAD A BAD

STORY.

I THINK THAT EVERY KID,

EVEN IF THEY'RE A TEENAGER

OR NOT, NEEDS A CHANCE AND

NEEDS TO BE IN A HOME.

I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO

SAY THAT THE DAY I ADOPT

IS THE DAY JESUS ASCENDS

FROM HEAVEN AND TELLS ME

TO ADOPT.

WE HAD TWO KIDS OUT OF THE

HOUSE ALREADY, AND WE WERE

GETTING READY TO ENJOY THE

FEW YEARS OUR 12-YEAR-OLD

HAD, AND IT WAS NOT

SOMETHING I HAD EVER

CONSIDERED DOING.

WHENEVER CHASE WAS

BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION

BY OUR PREACHER'S WIFE, IT

WAS KIND OF A JOKING

MANNER.

SHE WOULD SHOW ME A

PICTURE, AND I SAID, I

WOULD TAKE HIM IN A

HEARTBEAT.

I COULD TAKE HIM FISHING.

AND SHE IS TURNING BLOOD

RED, AND SHE SAID, NO, NO,

NO.

AND THINGS PROGRESSED, AND

WAS, BY GOD, THIS IS WHAT

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT IS OUR DECISION TO

FOLLOW WHAT GOD DESIRES US

TO DO.

WHEN CHASE WAS FIRST ON

MY CASE LOAD, HE WAS QUITE

THE TROUBLE-MAKER.

HIM BEING RAISED IN FOSTER

CARE, HE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH

SUPERVISION.

AND IT WASN'T HIS FAULT

FOR THAT.

BUT SEEING HIM CHANGE WAS

GETTING HIM INTO A HOME,

NOT A FACILITY, NOT

SOMEONE'S PLACEMENT

TEMPORARILY, BUT GETTING

HIM INTO A HOME AND HIM

BEING WITH THE BAILEYS

CHANGED THAT ALL.

IT HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY

ROAD.

BEING HUMAN IS BEING A

SINNER.

AND EACH ONE OF US HAVE

THINGS IN OUR LIVES THAT

WE'RE NOT PROUD OF,

INCLUDING HIM.

AND WE'VE TRIED TO TEACH

HIM, OVER THE LAST SIX

MONTHS HE HAS BEEN HERE,

HE IS LOVED NO MATTER WHAT

MISTAKES HE HAS MADE.

I GUESS THIS IS JUST

ONE OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTS

THAT YOU CANNOT STAY AWAY

FROM.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET

YOU GO, NO MATTER WHAT.

TRUST ME.

I KNOW.

I'VE TRIED.

SO, I MEAN, IT IS JUST

KNOWING THAT FACT THAT

YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE

THAT KIND OF REELS YOU IN

AND HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND

THAT YOU'RE NOT HERE TO

HURT YOU, AND THEY'RE HERE

TO HELP YOU.

WE'RE READY FOR THAT

TRIP TO HARRISON TO GO SEE

THAT JUDGE.

I'LL STAY THERE ABOUT A

WEEK, AND GET ADOPTED.

THERE IS NOT A DOUBT IN

OUR MIND THAT THIS IS NOT

SOMETHING THAT WE WERE

SUPPOSED TO DO.

WE KNEW THAT THIS CHILD

NEEDED A HOME.

AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT

AGE HE WAS.

IT DIDN'T MATTER HIS

BACKGROUND.

HE NEEDED A MOM AND HE

NEEDED A DAD AND HE NEEDED

A FAMILY.

CHASE, YOU HAVE CHANGED

THE LIVES OF THE BAILEY

FAMILY, BUT I KNOW THEY

HAVE CHANGED YOURS.

IT HAS TAKEN A VILLAGE.

SO AT THIS POINT IN

TIME, IT IS ONE OF MY

GREAT PLEASURES THAT I GET

TO PUT MY SIGNATURE TON A

DOCUMENT TITLED "DECREE OF

ADOPTION," AND TO MAKE

THIS OFFICIAL TODAY.

HE IS THE CHILD OF BRADLEY

BAILEY AND VICTORIA

BRADLEY, AND FROM THIS DAY

FORWARD, HIS NAME WILL BE

CHASBAILEY.

YOU WON THE SUPER BOWL

OF LIFE.

HE DIDN'T CHOOSE US.

WE DIDN'T CHOOSE HIM.

GOD IS THE ONE WHO CHOSE

US.

HE MAY HAVE MISSED 15

YEARS OF HIS LIFE, BUT HE

HAS SO MANY MORE THAT

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO

SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.

Terry: GOD PUTS THE

LONELY IN FAMILIES.

WE'D LIKE TO THANK

"PROJECT ZERO" FOR SHARING

THAT STORY WITH US.

"PROJECT ZERO" HELPS TO

MOVE CHILDREN IN THE

FOSTER CARE SYSTEM IN

ARKANSAS INTO A FOREVER

FAMILY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FIND

OUT MORE ABOUT THEIR

ADOPTION PROCESS, YOU CAN

VISIT THEIR WEBSITE.

IT IS projectzero.org.

AND THEN CONTEMPLATE WHAT

GOD WOULD HAVE YOU DO.

Andrew: IT'S A

BEAUTIFUL STORY.

STILL AHEAD, HER DOCTORS

SAID SHE NEEDED SPINAL

SURGERY, BUT SHE HAD

ANOTHER TREATMENT IN MIND.

THE WORSHIP TEAM JUST

GATHERED AROUND TO PRAY

OVER ME.

Andrew: A MOM OF

SEVEN WAS MIRACULOUSLY

HEALED.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PRAY

FOR YOU.

THAT'S NEXT.

Andrew: AFTER YEARS

OF SUFFERING WITH BACK

PROBLEMS, SHEILA BAKER'S

DOCTORS SAID SHE NEEDED

SPINAL SURGERY.

BUT THIS CHILDREN'S PASTOR

AND MOTHER OF SEVEN DIDN'T

ACCEPT THAT DIAGNOSIS.

INSTEAD, SHE KEPT DOING

THE ONE THING SHE KNEW TO

DO.

SHE KEPT ASKING GOD TO

HEAL HER.

I FIRST NOTICED ISSUES

WITH MY BACK WHEN I

STARTED CHEERLEADING IN

HIGH SCHOOL.

WHEN I WOULD JUST BE UP

MOVING AROUND, IT WAS A

LOT OF PAIN.

AND AFTER I HAD BEEN

MOVING AROUND FOR A COUPLE

OF HOURS AND SIT DOWN, IT

WOULD TURN INTO PAIN AND

STIFFNESS.

I NEVER HAD IT CHECKED

OUT, NEVER HAD IT LOOKED

AT, AND NEVER TOLD MY

PARENTS ABOUT IT.

I WAS ACTIVE ALL OF THE

TIME AND JUST ASSUMED IT

WAS PART OF BEING ACTIVE.

IT STARTED GETTING WORSE

WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH

MY FIRST CHILD.

IT WAS A LOT MORE INTENSE

AND CONSTANT WHEN I WAS

PREGNANT, COMPARED TO WHEN

I WASN'T.

I HAD LOADS OF PAIN FROM

THE BACK PAIN FROM SEVEN

PREGNANCIES, ALL SEVEN OF

THEM.

AS A PARENT, YOU'VE GOT

THINGS TO DO WITH YOUR

KIDS.

AND YOU JUST SUCK IT UP

AND DEAL WITH IT.

AS A CHILDREN'S PASTOR,

YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE TO BE

ON YOUR TOES.

I HAD BEEN HAVING LOTS OF

NUMBNESS IN BOTH OF MY

ARMS.

AND WHILE I WAS LEAVING MY

CHURCH OFFICE ONE DAY, I

HAD A SPASM IN MY LEG, AND

IMMEDIATE ATROPHY IN MY

LEGS.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT LOSING

MY ABILITY TO WALK.

I'M A CHILDREN'S PASTOR

AND A MOM OF SEVEN, AND

JUST BUSY IN GENERAL.

AND TO NOT BE ABLE TO

WALK, THAT DID CROSS MY

MIND.

TWO WEEKS LATER, IT WAS

BOTHERING ME.

AND MY HUSBAND WAS, LIKE,

WE NEED TO GET MY MOM TO

WATCH THE KIDS AND YOU

NEED TO GO TO THE E.R.

THE M.R.I. SHOWED THAT (A)

I HAD LESIONS ON MY BRAIN,

WHICH POINTED TOWARDS

M.S., AND ALSO THE DOCTOR

WAS FAR MORE INTERESTED IN

THE SPINE PORTION OF IT,

WHICH SHOWED THAT I HAD A

CONDITION CALLED SPONDELOL

SPONDELOLOPTISM.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO WAY TO

FIX IT IS WITH A SURGERY

CALLED SPINAL FUSION.

THEY BASICALLY GO IN AND

PUT IN A BUNCH OF METAL

RODS TO STRAIGHTEN OUT

YOUR BACK.

IT IS A MAJOR SURGERY.

I WAS TERRIFIED.

I HAD TO DEAL WITH PAIN,

BUT I WASN'T PARALYZED.

WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT

WAS GOING TO AFFECT US.

BUT THEY WERE POSITIVE I

NEEDED SURGERY.

THE NIGHT WE WENT TO THE

E.R., IT WAS ACTUALLY A

WORSHIP PRACTICE NIGHT.

SO WE WERE ON OUR WAY TO

GET OUR KIDS FROM MY

MOTHER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE, AND

PASTOR BRANT AND PASTOR

SHARON TEXTED US AND THEY

WANTED US TO COME OVER.

THEY WANTED TO PRAY OVER

ME.

THE STIFFNESS WENT AWAY AT

THAT TIME, BUT I STILL HAD

THE PAIN.

THE PAIN KEPT COMING BACK,

BUT I WOULD BE SO STIFF

THAT IT WOULD MAKE ME WALK

HUNCHED OVER, LIKE A

LITTLE OLD LADY.

IF I SAT FOR ANY AMOUNT OF

TIME AFTER BEING ACTIVE --

SO I WAS JUST FOCUSED ON

THAT.

I WAS JUST PRAISING GOD

THAT THE STIFFNESS WAS

GONE.

IT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS,

AND I WAS STANDING ON

STAGE, AND WE WERE

PRACTICING, AND MY BACK

STARTED BEING IN A LOT OF

PAIN.

SO THE WORSHIP TEAM JUST

GATHERED AROUND TO PRAY

OVER ME.

I DIDN'T FEEL ANYTHING IN

MY BACK DURING THE PRAYER.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON

THE WAY HOME I WAS IN SOME

OF THE WORST PAIN I HAD

BEEN IN A LONG TIME.

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS GET

HOME AND TAKE SOME KIND OF

MEDICATION.

I NOTICED SOMETHING WAS

DIFFERENT THE NEXT DAY.

I HAD TO GO GROCERY

SHOPPING, AND FOR A LARGE

FAMILY, GROCERY SHOPPING

TAKES A LONG TIME.

IT WAS ALWAYS I WOULD COME

AWAY WITH MY BACK HURTING

AFTER A TWO-HOUR GROCERY

SHOPPING TRIP.

I DID ALL OF MY GROCERY

SHOPPING, I GOT IN THE

CAR, AND I THOUGHT, MY

BACK ISN'T HURTING.

AT THERE TIME, I DIDN'T

KNOW IF IT WAS GOING TO

LAST OR IF IT WAS JUST A

FLUKE.

I WOULD BEND OVER TO PICK

STUFF UP OFF THE FLOOR AND

I WOULD JUST WAIT FOR THE

PAIN TO COME BACK.

OR I WOULD GET OUT OF THE

CAR, AND THAT WOULD BE

SOMETHING THAT USUALLY

CAUSED ME A LOT OF PAIN.

I WAS CONSTANTLY TESTING

IT, WAITING FOR IT TO COME

BACK, AND IT JUST NEVER

DID.

AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS,

AND ESPECIALLY AFTER I GOT

THROUGH SUNDAY SERVICE

WITH THE KIDS AND WAS ABLE

TO CLEAN UP AND NOT HAVE

TO SIT DOWN, AND NOT HAVE

TO HAVE ANYBODY HELP ME,

NOT HAVE TO TAKE A PAIN

MEDICATION, THAT'S WHEN IT

REALLY STARTED TO SINK IN

THAT MAYBE THIS WAS GOING

TO BE PERMANENT, IT WASN'T

GOING TO COME BACK.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY BACK

PAIN, SINCE THE DAY AFTER

THAT PRAYER.

I HAVE NOT HAD ANY BACK

PAIN SINCE THEN.

MY EIGHTH PREGNANCY HAS

BEEN SO MUCH DIFFERENT

THAN THE FIRST SEVEN.

I HAVEN'T -- I'VE BEEN A

LOT MORE ACTIVE.

I DIDN'T ACTUALLY REALIZE

HOW SEDENTARY I WAS DURING

THOSE FIRST SEVEN

PREGNANCIES JUST BECAUSE I

WAS IN SO MUCH BACK PAIN.

I THINK ABOUT AND WONDER

WHY HE CHOSE TO HEAL ME

BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO BE

A CHRISTIAN AND BE HIS

SERVANT AS A PASTOR

WHETHER HE HEALED ME OR

NOT.

AND I HONESTLY NEVER

REALLY EVEN EXPECTED HIM

TO.

I WASN'T HEALED THE FIRST

TIME THAT WEED ASKED.

WE PRAYEWE ASKED.

I PRAYED A LOT BEFORE I

WAS EVER HEALED.

JUST KEEP ASKING HIM, AND

IN THE MEANTIME, JUST KEEP

SERVING HIM.

IT CHANGED MY RELATIONSHIP

WITH GOD A LOT.

IT WAS A VERY DEEP

EXPERIENCE OF HOW MUCH HE

LOVES ME.

IT MADE IT REALLY TANGIBLE

TO ME, INSTEAD OF JUST

HEARING IT AND KNOWING IT

WITH MY MIND.

NOW I KNOW IT WITH MY

HEART.

Andrew: HERE IS

SHEILA, A CHILDREN'S

PASTOR, AND THAT WILL KEEP

ONE BUSY ENOUGH.

AND SHE HAS SEVEN CHILDREN

AND NOT ENOUGH TIME TO

FOCUS ON HERSELF, AND THEN

FINDS OUT THERE IS A REAL

PROBLEM.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVED

HER PRAYED FOR HER.

Terry: I LOVE THE

IDEA THAT -- BECAUSE I

THINK THIS IS BIBLICAL --

THAT YOU KEEP ON ASKING.

SOMETIMES IT IS NOT THE

FIRST TIME, THE SECOND

TIME, THE 20th TIME.

YOU KEEP ASKING, KNOWING

THAT GOD HEARS AND WILL

MOVE ON YOUR BEHALF.

Andrew: AND IF YOU'RE

IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE

YOU NEED PRAYER, TERRY AND

I WANT TO BE THAT TO YOU.

PLEASE JOIN US AS WE

CONCLUDE THE PROGRAM.

FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU

FOR SHEILA'S STORY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE

MIRACULOUS WORK YOU DID IN

HER LIFE.

NOW, FATHERED GOD, FOR THE

NEEDS OF THE AUDIENCE, YOU

KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, AND

YOU LOVE US DESPERATELY SO

MUCH THAT JESUS DIED FOR

US.

AND BY HIS WORK ON THE

CROSS, FATHER GOD, WE HAVE

HOPE.

AND WE PRAY FOR THE

AUDIENCE NOW, LORD GOD.

THOSE IN NEED OF THE A

HEALING, AS THEY TOUCH

THAT PART OF FLOWER BODY THERE BODY

THAT NEEDS HEALING, WE

PRAY THAT THEY RECEIVE

HEALING.

Terry: THERE IS

SOMEBODY WHO HAS A

CHRONIC, CHRONIC SINUS

CONDITION, AND IT'S

CONGESTION AND HEADACHES.

GOD IS LIFTING THAT OFF OF

YOU AND HEALING YOU RIGHT

NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

Andrew: LORD GOD, FOR

FAMILIES THAT ARE TORN

APART, SO MANY ARE

WATCHING US AND PRAYING

WITH US NOW, AND THERE IS

BREAKDOWN IN MARRIAGES,

AND THERE IS HEARTACHE

BECAUSE OF MARRIAGES THAT

ARE IN SUCH PAIN.

LORD,ED GOD GOD, WE LIFT THESE

MARRIAGES TO YOU.

AND FOR THE SPOUSE PRAYING

FOR THEIR HUSBAND OR WIFE

TO COME TO KNOW JESUS AS

SAVIOR, OR COME BACK TO

THEIR FAITH IN CHRIST,

LORD GOD, WE STAND WITH

THEM NOW.

BELIEVING UPON YOUR

FAITHFULNESS, GOD.

WE ASK YOU TO HEAL

FRACTURED MARRIAGES AND

FAMILIES IN JESUS' NAME.

Terry: THANK YOU,

LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

Andrew: AND FATHER

GOD, FOR THOSE STRUGGLING

WITH ANXIETY -- SOME WHO

JUST DON'T EVEN WANT TO

WALK OUT OF THE DOOR IN

THE MORNING, FATHER GOD,

THAT IS NOT OF YOU.

YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN US A

SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT OF

POWER AND LOVE AND OF A

SOUND MIERNTION MIND, AND WE CLAIM

THAT TODAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE FURTHER

PRAYER, CALL US AT

1-800-700-7000.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM JAMES 5:

16: "PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER,

THAT YOU MAY BE HEALED.

THE EFFECTIVE FERVENT

PRAYER OF A RIGHTEOUS MAN

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