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The 700 Club - April 10, 2017

CBN News sits down with the wife of the vice president. Karen Pence opens up about her marriage, faith and family. Plus, a Good Friday tragedy and the hope found in the darkness. Read Transcript


COMING UP.

A CBN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW.

THE SECOND

LADY OF THE UNITED STATES. WE

SIT DOWN

WITH THE WIFE OF THE

VICE-PRESIDENT.

KAREN PENCE OPENS UP ABOUT

HERE

MARRIAGE, HER FAITH AND HER

FAMILY.

AND A GOOD FRIDAY TRAGEDY.

THE DETECTIVE TOLD US

THERE HAD

BEEN AN ARGUMENT.

THE HOPE FOUND IN THE

DARKNESS ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB". *

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN

TO THIS EDITION OF THE "700

CLUB". I

START THIS PROGRAM WITH A

CONFESSION.

TERRY, I HAVE A CONFESSION.

ARE YOU

READY?

Terry: I'M READY TO HEAR

IT. I'M NOT

SURE, BUT I'M READY TO HEAR

IT.

Pat: FATHER, I HAVE SINNED.

WITH I WAS YOUNGER I USED TO

PLAY

POKER.

Terry: NO? YOU DID?

I DID.

Terry: DID YOU WIN?

Pat: I DID.

I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BLUFF.

IF YOU GET IN A GAME AND I

WAS IN A

GAME WITH A GUY IN LAW SCHOOL

WHO WAS

REALLY, HE WAS A SHARK AND I

WAS JUST

A LAMB. I DIDN'T REALIZE I

WAS PLAYING

AGAINST A SHARK. I WAS A PAIR

OF

DEUCES AND HE HAD A QUEEN AND

THAT'S

SOMETHING YOU SHOULDN'T DO.

Terry: ARE YOU GIVING US

ANYMORE

DETAIL?

Pat: I LOST.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TWO NATIONS. ONE IS

RUSSIA

THAT HAVE LITTLE OR NOTHING.

THEY ARE

ECONOMICALLY BUSTED. THEY

HAVE LIMITED

ARMED FORCES.

THEY HAVE ALMOST NO RESERVES

AND THEY

ARE CRITICALLY DEPENDENT ON

THE WORLD

ECONOMY. THE ONLY THING IS

THEY HAVE A

HUGE NUMBER OF NUCLEAR

WEAPONS. IRAN

ON THE OTHER HAND HAS NEXT TO

NOTHING

AS WELL. THEY HAVE A FAILED

STATE,

FAILED ECONOMY, LIMITED

RESOURCES AND

LIMITED MILITARY.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE

PUFFING THEIR

CHEST OUT AND SAYING TO THE

UNITED

STATES, IF YOU HIT SYRIA

AGAIN, WE ARE

GOING TO RESPOND WITH FORCE.

BOLOGNA. BUT THE DANGER WE

ALL FACE

AND WE KNOW IT AND PUTIN

KNOWS IT THAT

THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE NUKES

AND THEY

WILL PUT IT TO WASHINGTON.

THE

IRANIANS DON'T AND THE TIME

HAS COME

TO SAY NO. YOU'VE GOT A

COUPLE OF

DEUCES AND WE HAVE THE KING

AND WE ARE

NOT GOING TO BACK DOWN.

TERRY?

Terry: WHITE HOUSE

OFFICIALS ARE

TELLING RUSSIA TO STOP

HELPING ASSAD.

THAT THE UNITED STATES

WON'T CHANGE

THE REGIME IN SYRIA ON ITS

OWN.

WHY ARE WE SUPPORTING THIS

REGIME

THAT IS COMMITING THE MOST

DESTRUCTION.

BUT RESTORING ISIS AND NOT

ASSISTING SYRIA IS THE MOVE.

REMOVING ISIS BECAUSE

THAT'S THE

THREAT OF OUR COALITION

PARTNERS WHICH

IS EMANATING FROM.

THAT THE AGREEMENTS COULD

BE

NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE ASSAD

REGIME

AND THE FORCES. SENATOR MARCO

RUBIO

SAYS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

SHOULD

RECONSIDER ITS STRATEGY.

THIS IDEA WE ARE GOING TO

GET RID

OF ISIS AND USE ASSAD TO HELP

WITH A

SOLUTION. IT'S NOT GOING TO

WORK. AS

LONG AS ASSAD IS THERE YOU

ARE GOING

TO HAVE THIS RADICAL

DEVELOPMENT THIS

COALITION.

THEY WANT TO SEE 6,000

MORE TROOPS

ON THE GROUND TO DEFEAT ISIS

QUICKLY

SO PEOPLE CAN REGROUP INSIDE

SYRIA.

THEN YOU TRAIN THE

OPPOSITION TO GO

AFTER ASSAD THAT'S HOW THEY

ARE TAKE

OUT BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND

IF YOU

CONTINUE TO BOMB THE PEOPLE

WE TRAIN,

WE'LL SHOOT YOU DOWN.

AND ALSO SHOULD BE

SANCTION WHAT HE

CALLED AIDING ASSAD WITH

WEAPONS.

WHAT IS NEXT? THE

PRESIDENT WILL

KEEP ALL OF HIS THOUGHTS AND

PLANS

CLOSE TO HIS CHEST.

THIS PRESIDENT IS NOT

GOING TO GO

AND RELEASE ANY SORT OF

INFORMATION,

BUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE

IS

PRESSURE ON THE POLITICAL

SOLUTION.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO

HAPPEN.

EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

PATS

--

Pat: WE HAVE A NATIONAL

NIKKI HALEY

AN AMBASSADOR AND YOU HAVE

THE TOP

GENERALS WHO ARE BATTLE

HEARTENED AND

THIS TEAM IS GOING TO BATTLE

AND THEY

ARE NOT GOING TO GET BLUFFED

BY ANY

PAIR OF DEUCES THAT IRANIANS

MAY HOLD.

BUT SOMETHING ELSE HAS

HAPPENED AS YOU

KNOW THIS HORRENDOUS KILLING

THAT TOOK

PLACE BY ISIS THIS PAST

SUNDAY.

IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE WHAT'S

BEEN DONE.

THE PRESIDENT AL-SISI CLAIMED

A STATE

OF EMERGENCY AFTER THE TWO

BOMBINGS

SUNDAY. THE BOMBINGS KILLED

40 PEOPLE

ON PALM SUNDAY. MORE THAN 120

WERE

INJURED.

WE HAVE THIS STORY.

THIS CAMERA SHOWED THIS

BOMBING

OUTSIDE THIS CATHEDRAL.

2 HOURS EARLIER A BOMB WENT

OFF ST.

GEORGE'S CHURCH DURING PALM

SUNDAY

SERVICE.

AFTER THE CARNAGE, CHAOS.

I GOT UP AND SAW BODIES

ALL AROUND

ME. I CLIMBED ONTO THE PEWS

AND GOT

OUT USING A SIDE DOOR, THEN I

HEARD

SCREAMS.

ISIS CLAIMED

RESPONSIBILITY FOR

BOTH DEADLY ATTACKS.

THEY WARNED OF MORE TO COME.

EARLY IN

THE YEAR THEY CLAIMED THE

CHURCHES

WERE INFIDELS.

THEY RECEIVED THE WARNINGS

BEFORE

THAT THE CHURCHES WERE BEING

TARGETED.

WHY DIDN'T THEY PROTECT THE

PEOPLE.

THIS CAME ON PALM SUNDAY

WHERE THEY

CELEBRATE JESUS CHRIST ENTERS

JERUSALEM.

THIS WAS 1 WEEK LATER ON

EASTER.

HOW WOULD YOU SAY THE

CHURCH IS

REACTING TO THIS BOMBING

SUNDAY?

THEY ARE NOT REACTING WITH

ANGER.

IN FACT WITH THE CHURCH, THEY

HAVE

TURNED THE OTHER CHEEK. THEY

HAVE

EXHIBITED THE SPIRIT OF

JESUS. THEY

HAVE SAID WE ARE WILLING TO

SUFFER FOR

JESUS' SAKE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S

DIFFICULT, WE JUST HAVE OUR

BROTHERS

IN SISTERS DURING THIS

DIFFICULT TIME.

CBN NEWS.

GARY LANE, OUR NATIONAL

CORRESPONDENT IS HERE.

TELL US ABOUT IT?

I VISITED SAINT MARK'S

CATHEDRAL IN

ALEXANDRIA SEVERAL YEARS

AGO. THERE

WAS A BOMBING DURING THEIR

MASS AND I

WAS THERE ACROSS THE STREET

FROM THE

CATHEDRAL AT THE MOSQUE.

THEY ARE CONTESTANTLY PUTTING

INFORMATION OUT ON THEIR LOUD

SPEAKERS

AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS.

WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU?

THEY TOLD ME WE WANT

PRESIDENT

AL-SISI TO DO MORE. HE'S NOT

DOING

ENOUGH TO PROTECT US, NOT

BUILDING

ENOUGH NEW CHURCHES EVEN

THOUGH THERE

IS A NEW LAW THAT PASSED LAST

YEAR.

BUT AS FAR AS PROTECTING

THEIR LIVES,

THE MUSLIMS GO ON A RAMPAGE

DESTROYING

THEIR HOUSE AND BUSINESSES

AND THE

POLICE COME AFTERWARDS.

ASIDE FROM THAT, THEY KNOW

THAT SIS

-- AL-SISI, THEY KNOW THERE

IS ONLY SO

MUCH THEY CAN DO.

OUR PROTECTOR IS GOD

ALMIGHTY.

Pat: IT'S SUCH A RELIGION

OF PEACE

AND THEY ARE A BUNCH

BUTCHERS. HOW CAN

WE DEFEAT THEM?

THEY SAID WE NEED

5000-6000 MORE

TROOPS ON THE GROUND. HE

THINKS WE ARE

RELYING ON THE KURDS TO DO

THIS.

THEY THINK WE NEED TO BE

DETERMINED.

WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR ALLIES.

THE

MEETING TOMORROW IN ITALY

WILL BE

INVITED ALSO SAUDI ARABIA,

CUTTER, THE

UAE, THEY WANT THEM TO JOIN

IN TO

DEFEAT ISIS AND TO END THIS

WAR. IT'S

NOW BEEN 6 YEARS.

Pat: TALKING ABOUT THIS

BLUFF.

I THINK IT'S A BLUFF. WHAT DO

YOU

THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO?

THERE ISN'T MUCH THEY CAN

DO. WHAT

THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS BEEF

UP THE

DEFENSE SYSTEMS. THE RUSSIANS

HAVE A

400 ANTI-DEFENSE MISSILE.

THEY CAN

TAKE THOSE FROM THE RUSSIAN

BASES AND

PUT THEM AROUND THE SYRIAN

BASES. WHAT

ARE THEY GOING TO DO AGAINST

THE

UNITED STATES? THERE ISN'T

MUCH THEY

CAN DO.

THEY PUT IT TO RUSSIA SAYING

YOU ARE

THE ONE THAT GUARANTEED THIS

AND WHAT

HAPPENED? JUST LAST WEEK.

THAT IS THE RIGHTEOUS

DUPLICITY

WHEN THEY SAID WE ARE GETTING

RID OF

ALL THE WEAPONS. THEY SAID

THE SAME

THING.

TELL THAT TO THE PEOPLE.

AMEN.

WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA?

WE HAVE

THIS PROVOCATIVE LITTLE FAT

DICTATOR,

AGAIN, HE'S CALLING A BLUFF.

HIS GDP

IS PATHETICALLY.

THEY HAVE SPENT NONE. WE SENT

A TASK

FORCE THERE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO

WITH NORTH

KOREA?

WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND

TROOPS

THERE.

WHAT CAN THEY DO IN KOREA. WE

HAVE THE

MISSILE IN PLACE AND THAT IS

THE

AERIAL DEFENSE MISSILE AND

THEY ARE

WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF

THE HIGH

DENSITY OF THE POPULATION

THERE. DID

YOU KNOW THAT SEOUL IS ONLY

35 MILES

FROM THE KOREAN BORDER.

I WAS STATIONED THERE.

I WAS NORTH.

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS THERE.

AND THE HUGE SOUTH KOREAN

CIVILIAN

POPULATION IS UNDER THE GUNS

AT RISK.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU COULDN'T DROP TACTICAL

NEWS

WITHOUT IT FALLING ON SOUTH

KOREA.

WHERE IS YOUR NEXT

JOURNEY?

I'M GOING TO EUROPE, GOING

TO

GREECE NEXT MONTH. WE ARE

GOING TO

LOOK AT A NEW MOSQUE THAT

WILL BE

BUILT IN ATHENS SINCE THE

FIRST EMPIRE.

WOW. THAT'S INTERESTING.

TERRY, WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY

INTERESTING.

SHE'S A FORMER

SCHOOLTEACHER AND

GIVING WASHINGTON A LESSON ON

MARRIAGE.

I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW

WHAT'S GOING

ON OUT THERE TO AFFECT WHAT'S

GOING ON

OUT HERE.

THE WIFE OF MIKE PENCE

WITH AN

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW.

THAT'S NEXT.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: YOU ARE WATCHING THE

"700

CLUB". IT'S AN EXCITING WORLD

WE ARE

LIVING IN.

I WILL TELL YOU THE NEWS

COVERAGE LAST

WEEK WAS JUST CHALK FULL OF

INFORMATION BUT DOESN'T LOOK

LIKE IT'S

SLOWING DOWN. MIKE PENCE

CREATED A

CONTROVERSY WHEN HE SAID HE

WOULDN'T

DIA -- DIE -- ALONE WITH A

WOMAN WHO

WASN'T HIS WIFE. THERE WAS A

PASTOR,

WHO SAID, NEVER BE ALONE WITH

A WOMAN

THAT IS NOT YOUR WIFE, THAT

IS NO. 1.

NO. 2, NEVER BE IN A ROOM

ALONE WITH A

WOMAN THAT IS NOT YOUR WIFE.

Terry: LET ME GUESS NO. 3.

Pat: IT REALLY IS A

COMPROMISE. IT'S

SO EXTREME. SO MIKE PENCE

SAYS OKAY,

I'M NOT TAKING SOMEBODY OUT

TO DINNER

WHO IS NOT MY WIFE. WHAT IS

THE

PENCE'S MARRIAGE LIKE. WE SAT

DOWN

WITH THE VICE-PRESIDENT

PENCE'S WIFE

KAREN AND TALKED ABOUT THEIR

FAITH.

THEY ARE WORLD'S APART.

INDIANA NICE VERSUS DC.

KAREN, WIFE OF

VICE-PRESIDENT, KNOWS

THE MACHINE CAN BE BRUTAL AND

UNFORGIVING EVEN

BEHIND-THE-SCENES.

FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS

WILL BE

THEIR FIRST INTRODUCTION TO

YOU. WHAT

DO YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW

ABOUT YOU?

YOU KNOW, HONESTLY I LIKE

TO FOCUS

MORE ON WHAT WE ARE FOCUSING

ON IN THE

OFFICE BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL

THE STORY

SHOULD BE ME. WE ARE PRETTY

AVERAGE

PEOPLE.

HUMBLE MRS. PENCE OPENED

UP TO US

ABOUT BEING IN OFFICE.

APPARENTLY HE WILL NOT GO

OUT WITH

A WOMAN IF HIS WILLE -- WIFE

IS NOT

THERE.

SHE WILL NOT TALK ABOUT

THE

POLICIES TO PROTECT THEIR

MARRIAGE.

AS FAR AS FAITH, YOU ARE A

STRONG

BELIEVER.

WHAT ROLE DOES FAITH PLAY IN

YOUR

DAILY LIFE?

IT'S NOT ABOUT GIVING GOD

YOUR DAY,

IT'S ABOUT GIVING YOUR LIFE

TO GOD

EVERYDAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING I JUST

BELIEVE FIRMLY

IN.

SO, I THINK HONESTLY FOR ME,

IT'S

IMPORTANT TO SPEND TIME IN

THE WORD

EACH DAY.

THAT BRINGS YOU INTO GOD'S

PRESENCE

AND JUST KIND OF SETS THE

STAGE FOR

THE KIND OF DAY YOU ARE GOING

TO HAVE.

WHAT ROLE DOES FAITH PLAY

IN YOUR

MARRIAGE?

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S

INTERESTING

BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED

DATING I

REMEMBER SAYING SOMETHING TO

MIKE,

SOMETHING SILLY LIKE, YOU ARE

MY NO. 1.

AND HE STOPPED RIGHT THERE

AND SAID,

YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M PROBABLY,

GOING TO

DISAPPOINT YOU IF YOU MAKE ME

NO. 1 IN

YOUR LIFE. YOU PROBABLY NEED

TO HAVE

GOD AS NO. 1 IN YOUR LIFE.

HE DOESN'T MIND BEING NO. 2.

HE SAYS, I'M HUMAN AND I'M

GOING TO

LET YOU DOWN.

PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT

MAKES YOUR

MARRIAGE SUCCESSFUL.

I WEAR THIS BRACELET A

LOT. THIS

IS WHAT MY SON GAVE ME WHICH

SAYS

MOMMA, PLATOON SERGEANT. HE

LEFT A

QUOTE. I'M NOT GOING TO LET

WHAT GOES

ON OUT THERE AFFECT WHAT'S

GOING ON

HERE.

THIS RESONATES A LOT WITH

AMERICANS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE

THAT IS

AN EXAMPLE OF A GREAT

CHRISTIAN

MARRIAGE AND IT'S ALSO THEIR

BUSINESS.

WE REALLY HAVE TO FIND THE

IRONY OF

THOSE WHO TWEET ABOUT

EVERYBODY'S

PRIVACY AND INDIVIDUALITY AND

PASSING

JUDGMENT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S

MARRIAGE.

WHAT WE LEARNED A LOT

ABOUT THIS

INTERVIEW WAS HER PASSION TO

HELP

THOSE ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO

ARE

HURTING.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT

THERAPY AND

TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR

ADVOCACY?

I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN

ART THERAPY

FOR 12 YEARS. I'M AN ART

TEACHER AND

ARTIST BUT I CANNOT PRACTICE

ART

THERAPY.

HER FIRST YEARS TEACHING

IN

INDIANA, SHE TAUGHT

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL

FOR 25 YEARS. SHE LENT HER

ART THERAPY

TO PROGRAMS ACROSS THE STATE

AND NOW

AIMS TO DO THIS ON A NATIONAL

SCALE.

WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT ART

THERAPY

CAN BE USED FOR ANYONE WHO

HAS

SUFFERED.

I HAVE DONE THAT THROUGHOUT

INDIANAPOLIS AND IT COULD

ALSO HELP

THOSE WOUNDED WARRIORS, IT'S

VERY

EFFECTIVE WITH PEOPLE WHO

HAVE EATING

DISORDERS. IT COULD BE USED

FOR GRIEF

COUNSELING. IT COULD BE USED

FOR

SOMEONE WHO HAS JUST

EXPERIENCED ANY

KIND OF TRAUMA.

MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY

HAVE SEEN

PLENTY OF TRAUMA.

THAT'S WHY ANOTHER INITIATIVE

SHE

CARES ABOUT IS ABOUT

SUPPORTING

MILITARY FAMILIES. HER SON

SERVED.

THAT'S WHY SHE SERVES THE AS

THE

WOMAN OF THE VICE-PRESIDENT.

YOU HAVE THIS ALSO.

THEY MAY NOT PUT ON A

UNIFORM. BUT

THESE ARE WOMEN WHO MAKE JUST

AS MANY

SACRIFICES AS THE WOMEN WHO

PUT ON THE

UNIFORM. THEY MOVE REGULARLY.

THEY

HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR JOB ALL

THE TIME.

THEY HAVE TO BE SINGLE MOM OR

SINGLE

SPOUSE FOR LONG PERIODS OF

TIME.

IT'S A DIFFICULT LIFE.

WE WENT TO THE STATION.

IT WAS WONDERFUL. WE HAD

WIVES THERE

IN THE HANGAR AND JUST TRIED

TO

ENCOURAGE THEM AND LET THEM

KNOW, WE

APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.

SHE HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE

AND THE

HEADLINES WILL COME AND GO,

BUT HER

FAMILY AND HER FAITH KEEP HER

FOCUSED.

WHEN I WAS AN ART TEACHER,

WE USED

TO SAY, LOOK FOR KINGDOM

MOMENTS. MOST

OF THE APPOINTMENTS THAT GOD

HAS FOR

ME TODAY, AREN'T ONES ON MY

SCHEDULE.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE

SURPRISES AND

ONE THAT CALLS ME AND I'M

LATE FOR

SOMETHING, BUT I WANT TO TAKE

THE TIME

TO BE THERE FOR THOSE GOD

APPOINTMENTS.

IN WASHINGTON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WHAT AN AMAZING LADY.

MY GOODNESS. THE

VICE-PRESIDENT IS SO

LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH A GRACIOUS

SPIRITUAL WIFE.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Terry: INDEED. VERY

ENCOURAGING.

WELL, UP NEXT, THEY WERE

ENJOYING A

SUNDAY AT HOME WHEN TWO

OFFICERS

KNOCKED ON THEIR DOOR.

SHE WAS THE ONE THAT TOLD

US THAT

ANN HAD BEEN SHOT AND IN THE

HOSPITAL

THE DETECTIVE TOLD US THERE

HAD BEEN

AN ARGUMENT.

SEE HOW THE RESPONSE TO

THEIR

DAUGHTER'S SHOOTER MADE

NATIONAL NEWS.

THAT'S NEXT.

THAT'S NEXT.

Terry: ON PALM SUNDAY 2010,

ANN

MARGARET HEARD HER LAST

WORDS. NO,

DON'T.

MOMENTS LATER SHE WAS SHOT BY

HER

BOYFRIEND.

BUT WHILE ANN WAS ON LIFE

SUPPORT, HER

PARENTS ARE SAYING ONE MORE

THING,

THAT THEY NEED TO FORGIVE THE

MAN WHO

PUT HER THERE.

THE DOORBELL RANG AND WE

WERE

SURPRISED TO FIND A DEPUTY

SHERIFF

THERE WHICH WAS A WOMAN WHO

IS AN

ADVOCATE WITH THE COUNTY

SHERIFF'S

OFFICE.

SHE WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD US

SHE HAD

BEEN SHOT.

THEY WERE JUST GETTING

HOME FROM

PALM SUNDAY SERVICE WHEN THEY

WERE

TOLD THEIR DAUGHTER HAD

SUFFERED A

GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD

FROM HER

BOYFRIEND.

I WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED IF

HER

BOYFRIEND WAS WITH HER AND

THE DEPUTY

SHERIFF SAID IT WAS HER

BOYFRIEND THAT

SHOT HER AND I THOUGHT THAT I

KNEW

THAT HAD TO BE AN ACCIDENT

AND THEN I

WAS TOLD THERE HAD BEEN AN

ARGUMENT.

HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED

HIMSELF IN.

AND NOW THEY COULD JUST FOCUS

ON THEIR

DAUGHTER.

HER FATHER STAYED UP ALL

NIGHT

PRAYING.

AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, I

HEARD HER

SAY, FORGIVE HIM. SHE DID NOT

SAY

THOSE ACTUAL WORDS, BUT I

FELT LIKE

SHE WAS SAYING IT TO ME. I

KNEW

EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS TALKING

ABOUT

WHICH IS TO FORGIVE CONNOR

AND I SAID

NO WAY.

AND THEN I THOUGHT, I WILL

TRY AND SHE

NEVER WOKE UP.

THE NEXT DAY,

THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT

THEY HAD A

BREAK UP FIGHT AND SEAN WAS

GETTING A

SHOTGUN TO KILL HIMSELF AND

WHEN ANN

CAME BACK THEY CONTINUED TO

ARGUE AND

HE ENDED UP PULLING THE

TRIGGER AND

SHOOTING ANN INSTEAD.

ON SUNDAY, THEY SHOWED HER

BRAIN

RIDDLED WITH GUN PELLETS AND

THEY

REALIZED THEY HAD TO TAKE HER

OFF LIFE

SUPPORT.

WHEN I SAW THAT, I STARTED

SOBBING

AND IT WAS BECAUSE I REALIZED

THAT

CHRIST WAS WITH MY DAUGHTER

AND I

REALIZED IT WAS NOT ANN

ASKING ME TO

FORGIVE CONNOR. IT WAS JESUS.

HOW

COULD I SAY NO AFTER HE

FORGAVE ALL OF

MY TRANSGRESSIONS.

THEY WERE PUT ON HIS JAIL

LIST AND

THEY WENT TO SEE HIM NEXT

MORNING

HE IMMEDIATELY STARTED

CRYING ABOUT

WHAT HAPPENED AND I GAVE HIM

THE

MESSAGE THAT JESUS GAVE TO ME

THAT WAS

TO LOVE HIM AND FORGIVE HIM.

I SAID,

CONNOR, I FORGIVE YOU AND I

LOVE YOU.

IT WAS THOSE WORDS THAT I

HAVEN'T FELT

THE NEED TO GIVE BACK.

SHE WAS TAKEN OFF LIFE

SUPPORT.

SHE DIED THE SAME HOUR

THAT JESUS

DIED ON THE CROSS. SHE IS IN

THE ARMS

OF JESUS. SHE IS IN HEAVEN.

SHE IS AT

PEACE.

THROUGH A VOLUNTARY LEGAL

PROCESS

CALLED RESTORATIVE JUSTICE,

THEY WERE

ABLE TO SIT IN A ROOM WITH

CONNOR TO

SHARE THEIR GRIEF AND HE WAS

ABLE TO

DISCUSS THIS WITH HER AND

THEY WERE

ABLE TO TAKE THE FIRST STEPS

TOWARDS

RECONCILIATION.

FORGIVENESS IS ON MY PART,

REPENTANCE IS ON THE PERSON.

HE SERVED 20 YEARS IN

PRISON.

THEY VISITED HIM REGULARLY

AND CALLED

HIM WEEKLY.

FORGIVENESS IS THE ONLY

REASON THAT

I CAME TO BELIEVE IN GOD, IN

CHRIST.

THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION

FOR THE

FORGIVENESS THAT HE SHOWED

ME. NORMAL

PEOPLE DO NOT FORGIVE THE MAN

THAT

KILLS THEIR DAUGHTER. NORMAL

PEOPLE

WOULD HATE AND CONDEMN.

NORMAL PEOPLE

WOULD BE ANGRY AND HOLD ONTO

TO ANGER

AND WISH NOTHING BUT EVIL AND

PROBABLY

WANT TO KILL HIM. INSTEAD,

THEY

DECIDED TO RESPOND WITH

FORGIVESNESS,

RESPOND IN LOVE.

THAT'S NOTHING BUT THE LOVE

OF GOD

SHINING THROUGH THEM.

IN THE YEARS SINCE THE

SHOOTING IN

2010. THEY HAVE GROWN IN

FAITH AND

EVEN IN HIS BAPTISM.

THIS IS KEEPING ME FROM

GOING TO BE

LOCKED IN MY OWN CELL WITH

ANGER AND

HATREDNESS.

ONE THING IS SHE WANTS ME

TO LIVE A

LIFE WORTH TWO LIVES.

LIVE A LIFE THAT NOT MAKES UP

FOR THE

LIFE I TOOK, BUT AT LEAST

PUTS GOOD

BACK IN THE WORLD.

I HAVE GOT TO GIVE BACK

AND HELP

AND SERVE OTHERS.

I'M NOT DEFINE CONNOR BY

THAT ONE

MOMENT BECAUSE IF I DEFINE

CONNOR IN

THAT ONE MOMENT, THEN I

DEFINE ANN AS

WELL AND SHE WAS MORE THAN

THAT. IN

THE DAY OF THE ANNIVERSARY OF

HER

DEATH, HOLY WEEK HOLDS MORE

FOR US

EVEN THOUGH THERE IS THE

DEATH ON GOOD

FRIDAY AND FOLLOWING THE

RESURRECTION

ON SUNDAY.

Terry: ONE OF THE THINGS WE

DON'T

REALIZE SOMETIMES WHEN WE

REFUSE TO

FORGIVE SOMEONE AND GOING

INTO THE

PROCESS OF THE BEGINNING OF

THAT IS WE

ARE STUCK. I THINK HE SAID SO

WELL. I

WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THAT CELL,

I WOULD

HAVE BEEN STUCK IN THAT PLACE.

JESUS ASKS US TO FORGIVE SO

WE CAN BE

FREE.

THIS COUPLE HAS HAD THE GRACE

AND THE

MERCY TO EXTEND WHAT GOD HAS

EXTENDED

TO THEM, TO CONNOR.

AND IN THE END, THEY ARE ALL

FREE.

IT DOESN'T EXCUSE WHAT

HAPPENED.

SO, IN YOUR LIFE, IF YOU ARE

STRUGGLING WITH SOMEONE WHO

HAS HARMED

YOU, SPOKEN AGAINST YOU,

TAKEN

SOMETHING FROM YOU, HURT YOU

IN SOME

DEEP WAY, UNDERSTAND THAT

JESUS CALLS

YOU TO FORGIVE SO YOU CAN BE

FREE.

SO, I JUST WANT TO INVITE YOU

TO DO

THAT TODAY.

SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO DO IF

YOU

HAVEN'T ALREADY COMMITTED

YOUR LIFE TO

CHRIST BECAUSE YOU DON'T

REALIZE HOW

DEEPLY AND COMPLETELY YOU CAN

TRUST.

HE'S NOT ASKING YOU TO DO

THIS ON A

WHIM OR JUST A FLY BY NIGHT

KIND OF AN

IDEA FOR YOU TO PURSUE TODAY.

THIS IS

A KINGDOM PRINCIPLE. FORGIVE,

THAT'S

LIKE YOU'VE BEEN FORGIVEN AND

IN THE

PROCESS YOU WILL BE SET FREE.

YOU KNOW, KATE TALKED ABOUT

REPENTANCE

BEING ON THE OTHER PERSON.

THIS CAN

HAPPEN WITHOUT REPENTANCE ON

THE OTHER

PART.

IT'S NOT HOW YOU RESPOND.

IT'S DEPEND UPON YOU, UPON

YOUR

CHOICE, UPON YOUR SURRENDER.

WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME RIGHT

NOW.

YOU MAYBE STUCK IN THAT PLACE

BUT YOU

CAN GET FREE TODAY. JUST BOW

YOUR HEAD

AND PRAY THESE WORDS.

JESUS, BE THE SAVIOR OF MY

LORD, BE MY

PROTECTOR OF MY LIFE.

I SURRENDER TODAY.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE IT ALL TO

YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO CARRY THIS

ANYMORE. I

DON'T WANT TO BE DEFINED OF

THIS

ANYBODY, I DON'T WANT THIS

ROBBING ME

ANYMORE.

I WANT YOU TO BE THE ONE WHO

CREATED

MY LIFE TO BE.

I WANT YOU TO BE THE SAVIOR

OF MY

SOUL. COME INTO MY HEART.

GIVE MY

HEART THE WILL TO OBEY YOU

WHEN YOU

SPEAK. TODAY, I WANT TO

FORGIVE THE

ONE WHO WOUNDED ME. I ASK YOU

TO GET

ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS, GOD.

YOU

RAISED THE RESENTMENT FROM MY

BEING,

FILL ME WITH THE PEACE OF

YOUR

PRESENCE. FILL ME WITH THE

FREEDOM

COMING TO KNOW THAT I AM

FORGIVEN.

HELP ME TO WALK IN THAT FAITH

TO KNOW

THAT IT IS LIFE CHANGING AND

TO ALLOW

ME TO WALK OUT WHAT YOU

CREATED ME

FOR. FILL ME WITH YOUR HOLY

SPIRIT

TODAY. I RECEIVE EVERYTHING

YOU HAVE

TO GIVE ME AND I GIVE YOU ALL

OF ME.

IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY, AMEN.

YOU'VE GOTTEN A NEW BEGINNING

TODAY.

IT IS JUST THE BEGINNING. WE

WANT TO

HELP YOU GROW IN YOUR

RELATIONSHIP

WITH CHRIST. WHAT DOES IT

MEAN TO WALK

WITH HIM, TO FOLLOW HIM, TO

BE A

CHRISTIAN.

WELL, PAT HAS PUT TOGETHER A

PACKET

FOR YOU. IT'S CALLED A NEW

DAY TO HELP

YOU LIVE YOUR NEW CHRISTIAN

LIFE. YOU

CAN JUST CALL THIS NUMBER.

TOLL-FREE

PHONE NUMBER: 1-800-700-7000.

THERE IS NO RESPONSIBILITY.

JUST SAY, I JUST PRAYED THAT

PRAYER

AND WOULD LIKE THE NEW PACKET.

WE'LL GET THIS OUT TO YOU

RIGHT AWAY.

IF YOU HAVE STRUGGLED WITH

FORGIVENESS. WE'LL SHARE WITH

YOU THE

WORD OF WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY

ABOUT IT.

PAT?

Pat: I WANT TO REMIND YOU

THAT IN

CASE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE THAT

LAST

SUNDAY WAS PALM SUNDAY AND

NEXT SUNDAY

IS EASTER. PEOPLE ARE

CELEBRATING THE

RESURRECTION OF JESUS. SO, WE

ARE

GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN

CELEBRATION ON

WHAT'S THURSDAY, WHICH IS

CELEBRATING

THE LAST SUPPER WHICH HE

PARTICIPATED

IN ON THE DAY HE WAS

CRUCIFIED. THAT

WAS THURSDAY AND CRUCIFIED

SATURDAY

AND ROSE ON SUNDAY WHICH WAS

THE PASS

OVER, JEWISH TIME. BUT THIS

IS THE

WEEK WE CELEBRATE.

STILL AHEAD, HE USED TO WALK

TWO 1/2

HOURS JUST TO MAKE IT TO

SCHOOL. NOW

HE HAS AN MBA AND HE'S

WORKING TO MAKE

SURE EVERYONE GETS ACCESS TO

AN

EDUCATION. AN AMAZING STORY

WHEN WE

COME BACK.

COME BACK.

> WELCOME TO WASHINGTON

FOR THIS

CBN NEWSBREAK. NEIL GORSUCH

HAS TAKEN

HIS NEW POSITION SWORN IN

WHERE HE'LL

TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE WITH

JUSTICE

ANTHONY KENNEDY.

THE 49TH COLORADO APPEALS

JUDGE WILL

BE SWORN JUST IN TIME.

THE POLLING JUST IN TIME

FOR

EASTER. CLOSE TO 190,000

WATCHING THE

POLISH VIEW ON POLISH

NATIONAL

TELEVISION. NOW THEY DECIDED

TO OFFER

THE ENTIRE SEASON IN THE

POLISH

LANGUAGE EVERYDAY.

THE TV STATION HAS SIGNED ON

TO

"SUPERBOOK" FOR 3 YEARS.

VIEWERS CAN

ALSO WATCH THE ANIMATED

SERIES ON THE

STATION'S WEBSITE.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT

WHAT'S GOING

ON AT CBN AROUND THE WORLD BY

GOING TO

CBN.COM.

Pat: REGENT UNIVERSITY

BOARD OF

TRUSTEES MET THIS WEEKEND.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE 18 00

GRADUATES

IN THE FIRST OF MAY. WE NOW

HAVE

THOUSANDS OF GRADUATES,

ALUMNI IN THE

FIELD DOING ALL KINDS OF

WONDERFUL

THINGS. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF

INTERNATIONAL ALUMNI

REPRESENTING

DOZENS OF COUNTRIES. HE

ARRIVED FROM

NICARAGUA.

AFTER EARNING HIS DEGREE AT

REGENT.

HE WENT BACK TO HIS VILLAGE

TO SHARE

HIS WONDERFUL ROLE.

I GREW UP.

HE GREW UP IN POVERTY IN

NICARAGUA.

THERE WAS NO RUNNING WATER

AND WHEN

I WAS THERE, THERE WAS NO

SCHOOL.

HIS FATHER ABANDONED HIS

FAMILY

WHEN HE WAS JUST 6 MONTHS

OLD. HE

BEGAN TO WORK TO SUPPORT HIS

FAMILY.

I STARTED TO WORK IN THE

FARM WHEN

I WAS JUST 6 YEARS OLD AND I

HAD TO BE

ABLE TO PROVIDE.

HE WAS EAGER TO LEARN.

SO AT NINE HE WENT TO SCHOOL

FOR THE

FIRST TIME. HE DIDN'T

COMPLAIN ABOUT

THE TWO 1/2 MILES HE HAD TO

WALK

THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS OR

RIVER TO GET

TO SCHOOL.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE

MY NAME.

GOD GAVE ME THE ABILITY TO

LEARN FAST.

HE LEARNED SO MUCH HE

BEGAN HIS

EDUCATION. HE MET SOMEONE WHO

WENT TO

NICARAGUA.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE.

GOD HELPED ME.

HE WENT TO STUDY ENGLISH

AS A

SECOND LANGUAGE. HE MET HIS

WIFE MARY

BLAKE.

I'M JUST BLESSED TO HAVE A

WONDERFUL FAMILY.

AFTER HE GRADUATED WITH

HIS

BACHELOR'S IN INTERNATIONAL

BUSINESS

AND FINANCE. HE TOOK ANOTHER

STEP OF

FAITH AND ENROLLED IN THE

SCHOOL OF

BUSINESS LEADERSHIP TO PURSUE

HIS MBA.

I HAD A FAMILY AND AS A

STUDENT,

THE CONNECTION WAS WHAT YOU

ARE

LEARNING AND FROM THERE YOU

ARE

APPLYING WHAT YOU ARE

LEARNING TOO IN

THE REAL WORLD.

JORGE CREATED A NON-PROFIT

OPERATION NICARAGUA.

FIRST YOU DO IT THROUGH

EVANGELISM,

SECOND EDUCATION.

JORGE GRADUATED WITH

HONORS IN

2015.

WITH MY WIFE AND WITHOUT

MY

PROFESSORS, I WOULDN'T HAVE

DONE THIS.

TODAY HE STANDS WITH

"OPERATION

BLESSING" TO HELP WITH WATER

PURIFICATION SYSTEMS FOR THE

PEOPLE OF

NICARAGUA. THROUGH JUST AN

OPPORTUNITY, HE BUILT A

TRAINING

CENTER TO PROVIDE EVERYONE IN

THE

VILLAGE A BRIGHTER FUTURE.

TODAY WE HAVE 25 HIGH

SCHOOL

STUDENTS THAT WE SPONSOR FROM

THOSE

REMOTE VILLAGES AND WE HAVE

13 COLLEGE

STUDENTS THAT WE ALSO SPONSOR

FOR THEM

TO GO TO SCHOOL. JUST THIS

YEAR WE

PROVIDED 120 UNIFORMS, SHOES,

BACKPACKS AND NOTEBOOKS FOR

THE

STUDENTS.

JORGE IS GRATEFUL FOR THE

EDUCATION

HE RECEIVED AT REGENT

UNIVERSITY AND

HOW HE HELPED EQUIP THE

PEOPLE OF

NICARAGUA BY OVERCOMING

POVERTY.

THIS HELPED ME WITH THE

WAY I NEVER

THOUGHT I WILL EVER DO IT.

IT'S GOD.

CHANGING THE WORLD, THEY

PREPARE YOU

FOR THAT.

Pat: IT'S AMAZING.

NICARAGUA IS ONE

OF THE MOST DESPERATELY

POOREST

COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD NEXT

TO HAITI

IN THE HEMISPHERE.

Terry: THIS IS GREAT THAT

YOU

FOUNDED THIS UNIVERSITY.

IT'S WONDERFUL. WE HAVE

THOUSANDS

OF PEOPLE GOING THERE NOW.

THE BEST

THING ABOUT THIS SCHOOL

LEADERSHIP, WE

HAVE THE LEADING DOCTORS IN

THE NATION

NO. 1 AND WE HAVE THE FASTEST

GROWING

UNIVERSITY IN AMERICA.

WITH 10,000 STUDENTS. WE ARE

NOW

ENROLLING FOR A MASTERS OF

BUSINESS

ADMINISTRATION WITH A

CONCENTRATION IN

GENERAL MANAGEMENT, AND

ENTREPRENEURIAL FOCUS SO YOU

CAN LEARN

HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS, BE AN

ENTREPRENEUR.

1900-210-0660. IT'S EIGHT

TIMES A YEAR

WHERE SOMEONE CAN SIGN UP FOR

REGENT

UNIVERSITY.

1800-210-6000.

IT'S A GREAT FUTURE.

ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA,

THEY SO

HUNGRY FOR AN EDUCATION.

ESPECIALLY

WHEN WE OPEN THE DOORS, WHEN

WE OPEN

WIDE TO INTERNATIONAL, THIS

STUDENT

BODY ROSE TO 200,000 QUICKLY.

WE CALL

HIM AN AMAZING MAN.

HE WAS 9 YEARS OLD AND

COULDN'T

WRITE HIS NAME AND DIDN'T

KNOW

ANYTHING AND HE JUST STARTED

SCHOOL.

NOW EXECUTIVE

VICE-PRESIDENT.

IN THIS COUNTRY, HE COULDN'T

SPEAK

ENGLISH.

SON OF A SINGLE MOTHER AND

THE NEXT

THING YOU KNOW HE'S GOT A

DOCTORATE.

HE'S BRILLIANT AND IN CHARGE

OF ALL OF

THESE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS.

REGENT HAS

ABOUT 150 CONCENTRATIONS NOW

GOING FOR

200, CYBER SECURITY, ADVANCED

NURSING,

ANALYTICS, ADVANCED

COMPUTERS. YOU

NAME IT. REGENT HAS IT.

IT'S VERY EXCITING.

COME TO REGENT.

I'M POSITIVE ABOUT IT.

Terry: WE HAVE A HOT SEAT

OF ANOTHER

ROUND OF "BRING IT ON".

SHE SAYS, MY HUSBAND IS

HAVING A

RELATIONSHIP WITH A COWORKER.

DO I

HAVE GROUNDS TO DIVORCE HIM?

THAT'S

ALL COMING UP.

ALL COMING UP.

Terry: FOR A PARENT FEW

THINGS ARE

MORE HEARTBREAKING THAN

HAVING HUNGRY

CHILDREN AND NOTHING TO FEED

THEM.

THAT WAS THE CASE FOR ONE

FAMILY IN EL

SALVADOR UNTIL "OPERATION

BLESSING"

GAVE THEM A HAND UP.

NOT ALONG AGO, JORGE HURT

HIS BACK

IN EL SALVADOR.

THE PAIN WAS TERRIBLE. IT

KEPT ME

FROM WORKING FOR A LONG TIME.

TONY IS A FATHER OF THREE

PROVIDING

FOR HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN WAS

ALWAYS

HIS PRIORITY UNTIL THE

ACCIDENT.

IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU

EXPECT TO

SUPPORT YOUR KIDS, EXPECT TO

MEET

THEIR NEEDS. IT'S NOT EASY.

IT'S NOT

EASY.

MEANWHILE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD

JORGE DID

WHAT HE COULD HELP BY TAKING

CARE OF A

FEW CHICKENS. HE SEEMED TO

HAVE A

KNACK FOR IT.

SOON THE MEDICAL BILLS

EXHAUSTED THEIR

SAVINGS AND THEIR DEBT

INCREASED.

MEANWHILE HE'S LOOKING

THROUGH POTS

FOR DINNER.

EVERYONE RESPECTS, MEANS

WE ALL EAT

OR NONE OF US EAT. SO WE WENT

HUNGRY.

THAT'S WHEN "OPERATION

BLESSING"

LEARNED ABOUT THE FAMILY'S

NEEDS. WE

PROVIDED TONY WITH A NEW

BUSINESS WITH

SELLING COCONUT MILK. HE NOW

EARNS

OVER $200 A WEEK RUNNING THE

BUSINESS.

THEN WE GAVE JORGE 50

CHICKENS TO

START A POULTRY BUSINESS.

WHEN "OPERATION BLESSING"

GAVE US

THE CHICKEN BUSINESS, I WENT

OUT AND

COLLECTED THE EGGS.

MOM TOLD ME TO SELL THEM AND

NOW WE

HAVE MORE CHICKENS.

THEY HAVE SOLD HUNDREDS OF

CHICKENS

IN THE PAST YEAR.

I GAVE ALL THE MONEY TO

MOM.

JORGE HAS WONDERED WHY

THIS HAS

HAPPENED TO HIM FAMILY.

I THINK MAYBE GOD WAS

TESTING US

AND WE PASSED WE GOT WHAT WE

NEEDED.

THANKS.

YOU CAME TO HELP US.

Terry: IF YOU ARE A "700

CLUB" YOU

ARE COMING TO HELP PEOPLE

FROM ALL

OVER THE WORLD EVERY SINGLE

DAY

BECAUSE WE ALL LINK HEARTS TO

GO TO

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IT'S JUST MEMBER: $20 A

MONTH, JUST

$0.65 A DAY TO JOIN THE "700

CLUB".

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT,

TODAY IS THE

DAY TO CHANGE THAT. HERE WE

ARE

CELEBRATING EASTER WEEK AND

THE

SACRIFICE JESUS MADE FOR US.

YOU CAN JOIN THE "700 CLUB"

RIGHT NOW.

WHEN YOU CALL OUR TOLL-FREE

PHONE

NUMBER: 1-800-700-7000 NUMBER.

IT'S ON YOUR SCREEN. WHEN YOU

SAY, I

WANT TO JOIN THE "700 CLUB".

WE ARE

GOING TO SEND YOU THE "THE

SECRET

KINGDOM AND THE LAW OF

EXPECTATION".

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PRINCIPLES

OF GOD

WORKING THE WORLD AROUND US

AND HOW

YOU AND I TAKE PART IN THAT.

YOU WANT TO GET A HOLD OF

THIS.

THIS WILL BE A HUGE BLESSING

TO YOU.

IN FACT TYLER SAYS, "THE

SECRET

KINGDOM AND THE LAW OF

EXPECTATION" IS

BEAUTIFUL.

THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS

TO GROW

AND BE FULLY READY FOR GOD'S

PURPOSE

IN THEIR LIVES. WOW, THANK

YOU, WE ARE

SURE GLAD YOU ENJOYED IT.

JUST CALL RIGHT NOW AND WE'LL

GET IT

TO YOU RIGHT AWAY.

LET'S "BRING IT ON". THIS

IS MARIA,

SHE SAYS MY HUSBAND IS HAVING

AN

AFFAIR WITH A COWORKER. HE IS

UNREMORSABLE. WE WENT TO A

CHRISTIAN

THERAPIST AND THE THERAPIST

HAS TOLD

ME OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS FLAT

LINED.

WHEN I TALK TO HIM, HE SAYS

I'M MAKING

A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHING. I

HIRED A

PRIVATE THE DETECTIVE WHO

CONFIRMED

HIS AFFAIR. DO I HAVE GROUNDS

TO

DIVORCE HIM?

THERE IS ONE GROUND THAT

JESUS SAYS

DIVORCE IS AND THAT'S

ADULTERY. IT'S

SPELLED OUT VERY CLEARLY.

PAUL ALSO

GAVE US THE PURPOSE THAT IF A

YOUNG

BELIEVER IS PLEASED TO DEPART

FROM A

BELIEVER, THEN THE BELIEVER

IS NOT

BOUND TO THOSE CASES. I THINK

THERE IS

SUCH A THING AS CONSTRUCTIVE

DESERTION

WHERE PEOPLE MAKE IT

IMPOSSIBLE. A

SPOUSE MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO

LIVE

WITH HIM OR HER AND UNDER

THOSE

CIRCUMSTANCES, DESERTION.

YOU HAVE THE GROUNDS.

IF YOU ARE WANT A DIVORCE,

IT'S YOUR

CALL. GOD DIDN'T INTEND TO

PUT US IN

PRISON. MARRIAGE IS SUPPOSED

TO BE A

BLESSING. IT ISN'T SOME

LOCKED IN

PRISON.

MARRIAGE IS TWO PEOPLE AS

THEY BECOME

ONE FLESH IN THE LORD. THEY

BRING

FORTH CHILDREN. THEY LIVE

TOGETHER IN

UNITY AND IT'S CONSIDERED A

BLESSING.

IT'S LIKE HEAVEN ON EARTH. IF

YOU'VE

GOT HELL ON EARTH, I THINK

YOU'VE GOT

THE WRONG KIND OF MARRIAGE.

THIS IS ADDELAID, SHE SAYS

THE

BIBLE SAYS THAT ALL -- I

DON'T THINK

GOD WANTS ME. I FEEL LIKE I'M

JUST

TALKING TO MYSELF. I'M

STRUGGLING TO

BELIEVE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT

TO DO.

Pat: LOOK, GOD LOVES YOU. I

RECOMMEND YOU READ THE BIBLE

AND I

RECOMMEND YOU FIND A

SCRIPTURE.

I LIKE THE 103 PSALM.

BUT I WANT YOU TO READ IT AND

SAY IT

AND I WANT YOU TO READ IT AND

SAY IT,

AND I WANT YOU TO READ IT AND

SAY IT

UNTIL IT BECOMES A PART OF

YOU AND

THEN BELIEVE WHAT IT SAYS AND

LET THAT

BECOME A PART OF YOU AND

BEGIN TO LIVE

WHAT IS IN THE BIBLE. WELL,

THE LAST

PART WE HAVE IS BE STILL AND

KNOW THAT

I AM GOD.

THAT'S ALL THE TIME I HAVE

GOT. FROM

TERRY AND ALL OF US, WE'LL

SEE YOU

TOMORROW. BYE, BYE.

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