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700 Club Interactive - April 27, 2017

Studio 5’s Efrem Graham talks about this week’s top five stories from the world of faith and entertainment. Read Transcript


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Gordon: JENNIFER

HUDSON TAKES STEVEN

COLBERT TO CHURCH.

IF I WASN'T A CHRISTIAN

WHEN THA SON THAT SONG STARTED, I

WOULD BE WHEN IT WAS OVER.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

HERE IS EFREM GRAHAM WITH

THIS WEEK'S TOP FIVE

TRENDING STORIES.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...PEOPLE AROUND THE

WORLD PAUSE TO REMEMBER

THE 1.5 MILLION LIVES LOST

IN THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

102 YEARS AGO, MANY OF

THEM CHRISTIANS.

THE OFTEN FORGOTTEN STORY

IN TURKEY'S HISTORY IS THE

INSPIRATION FOR THE NEW

FILM "THE PROMISE."

THE LEGENDARY CHRIS

MYERS.

Efrem: STARRING

CHRISTIAN BALE.

WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE

PROMISE IN "THE PROMISE"?

THERE IS THE PROMISE

THAT MIKHAIL HAS TO THE

WOMAN HE IS BETROTHED TO

THAT HE WILL RETURN.

BUT OVER ALL, THERE IS A

PROMISE NEVER TO FORGET,

BY THE FILM-MAKERS, BY THE

ARMENIANS, BY ANYBODY WHO

HAS LOST SOMEBODY, A

PROMISE NEVER TO FORGET.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FOUR...

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO

THE SHOW JENNIFER HUDSON.

Efrem: JENNIFER

HUDSON TAKES "THE LATE

SHOW" TO CHURCH.

* TALK ABOUT A CHILD THAT

DO LOVE JESUS *

* HE IS ONE

* TALK ABOUT A CHILD

[APPLAUSE]

* THAT IS LOOKING FOR...

[APPLAUSE]

* GOD, LOOK AT ME

Efrem: SHARING HER

FAVORITE HYMN WITH HOST

STEPHEN COLBERT.

IF I WASN'T A CHRISTIAN

WHEN THAT SONG STARTED, I

WOULD BE WHEN THAT SONG

WAS OVER.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

THREE, WE HAVE GOT THE

PRIVILEGE OF GIVING YOU A

SNEAK PEEK OF SHONDA'S NEW

FILM, "ENOUGH."

TAKE A LOOK.

I HAVE THESE

WELL-MEANING GIRLFRIENDS

WHO SIGNED ME UP FOR

MATCH.COM, ONE CALLED

"OUR TIME," WHICH MEANS

THERE IS LITTLE TIME LEFT

AT ALL.

Efrem: CHONDA PIERCE

RELEASED THE FOLLOWUP.

TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH,

I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD THE

STORY UNTIL JUST A FEW

MONTHS AGO.

AND I SAID, THERE IS A

STORY, LEARNING TO PICK UP

THE PIECES OF YOUR LIFE

AFTER BEING A WIFE FOR 30

SOMETHING YEARS, AND ALL

OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE

WIDOWED.

AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT

LOOK LIKE?

Efrem: AT NUMBER

TWO...

WHEN MY PARENTS BOUGHT

ME A BRAND NEW BASKETBALL,

I FOUND MYSELF LAYING IN

BED AND SHOOTING WITH IT.

Efrem: FROM

BASKETBALL STAR TO

FILM-MAKER, KOBE BRYANT

PENNED THE POEM "DEAR

BASKETBALL," WHEN HE

RETIRED FROM THE GAME, AND

YOU NOW THAT LOVE LETTER

IS A FILM.

SHOOTING AN IMAGINARY

GAME.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

ONE...

2,607th STAR ON THE

HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME

WILL GO TO ACTOR CHRIS

CRAFT.

Efrem: HE RECEIVES

HIS STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD

WALK OF FAME, WITH HIS

WIFE AND SON BY HIS SIDE.

BETTER KNOWN FOR HIS GOOFY

SIDE, CHRIS GETS A BIT

EMOTIONAL.

I'M HUMBLE AND I FEEL

GRATEFUL, BUT I'M NOT SURE

I'M WORTHY.

I'M A MAN OF FAITH, AND I

BELIEVE THAT GOD WORKS IN

MYSTERIOUS WAYS AND GIVES

US SIGNS AND GIFTS IN

LIFE.

AND THOSE GIFTS OFTENTIMES

COME IN THE FORM OF

PEOPLE.

Gordon: WELL, HE

REALLY SEEMED TO GET

CHOKED UP THERE.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

Gordon: EFREM, WHAT

DO YOU THINK OF CHRIS

PRATT?

Efrem: I LOVE HIM.

I'M ONE OF THOSE WHO

FOLLOWED HIM ON SOCIAL

MEDIA.

I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING

HIM AT LEAST ONCE, A TRUE

MAN OF FAITH.

HE GOT CHOKED UP BECAUSE

HE WAS SHARING THE FACT

THAT GOD HAD BLESSED HIM

AND PUT SOME GREAT PEOPLE

IN HIS PATH, INCLUDING HIS

MOM, WHO ENCOURAGED HIM TO

PURSUE HIS DREAMS, AND HIS

WIFE, AND HIS MONTH, WHO

CAME A FEW MONTHS EARLY,

AND THAT'S WHEN WE SAW HIS

FAITH ON DISPLAY, WHEN HE

REACHED OUT FOR PRAYER AND

TO SEE GOD WORK A MIRACLE

IN HIS LITTLE CHILD'S

LIFE.

Gordon: HOW WAS HE

DISCOVERED?

Efrem: I FORGET WHO

GAVE HIM HIS BREAK IN

FILM, BUT THE FILM HE WAS

GIVEN THAT BREAK IN

ACTUALLY NEVER MADE IT

OUT.

BUT HE DID SO WELL, THE

PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE SET

WORKING WITH HIM BEGAN TO

RECOMMEND HIM, EVEN THOUGH

THAT PARTICULAR FILM NEVER

MADE IT TO THE SCREEN.

Gordon: I HAVE A

FEELING HE MIGHT MAKE IT

NOW, NOW THAT HE HAS A

STAR.

Efrem: "THE GALAXY"

IS COMING OUT NEXT FRIDAY.

Gordon: IT JUST SEEMS

TO BE GENUINE.

Efrem: IT IS.

IT REALLY IS.

Gordon: AND YOU JUST

GO, YAY, IN TODAY'S WORLD,

WHAT A GREAT THING.

> CHONDA PIERCE, SHE HAS

BEEN THROUGH INCREDIBLE

TRAGEDY.

Efrem: MY FIRST

QUESTION TO HER LAST WEEK,

WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

THE DOCUMENTARY THAT CAME

OUT ON TUESDAY, WAS,

CHONDA, AT THE START OF

YOUR LAST DOCUMENTARY,

YOUR LIFE LITERALLY FELL

APART.

THEY WERE DOING THE

DOCUMENTARY DO INTRODUCE

HER TO THE WORLD, ALTHOUGH

SHE WAS THE BEST-SELLING

COMEDIAN OF ALL TIMES.

BUT PEOPLE SAID, PEOPLE

DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE

LARGELY.

AND THEY STARTED THIS

DOCUMENTARY, AND SHE LOST

HER MOM AND HER HUSBAND,

AND IT TURNS OUT HER

HUSBAND WAS AN ALCOHOLIC,

AND ALL OF THIS STUFF CAME

OUT IN THE DOCUMENTARY.

AND I SAID, WHY DID YOU

WANT TO DO IT A SECOND

TIME, CONSIDERING ALL THAT

HAPPENED.

AND SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T

EVEN THINK SHE HAD A

STORY.

BUT HER TEAM KEPT SAYING,

NO, THERE IS A STORY HERE,

SO SHE ALLOWED THE CAMERAS

TO ROLL.

AND A FEW MONTHS INTO IT,

SHE REALIZED, YEAH, THERE

IS A STORY.

SHE IS DATING AGAIN, AND

HER FRIENDS ARE PUSHING

HER INTO ONLINE DATING.

AND THE NAME OF THIS FILM

IS "ENOUGH," AND IT DID SO

WELL IN THE ONE-NIGHT

EVENT, IT WILL BE BACK

AGAIN MAY 9th FOR A

ONE-NIGHT EVENT FOR PEOPLE

TO SEE.

SHE IS EXTREMELY FUNNY,

BUT EVEN IN ALL OF THAT

COMEDY, SHE MAKES SURE

THAT SHE PREACHES AND

GIVES YOU JESUS AND TELLS

YOU HOW JESUS HAS MADE HER

LIFE ENOUGH.

ENOUGH AS IT IS, WITH OR

WITHOUT A HUSBAND.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

SPEAKING OF PREACHING

JESUS, WE HAD A SINGING

WITH STEPHEN COLBERT.

Efrem: WATCHING THE

ENTIRE THING, YOU CAN TELL

IT WASN'T SCRIPTED.

IT WASN'T PLANNED.

IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER

EASTER, THE WEEK AFTER

EASTER.

SHE GOES ON THE SHOW, AND

HE SAYS, WHAT DID YOU DO

AFTER EASTER?

AND HE SAID, DID YOU HAVE

A FAVORITE HYMN GROWING

UP?

AND IT IS AN OLD NATIVE

SONG.

AND SHE BELTED THAT THING

OUT -- AND I WATCHED IT

OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

YOU GET CHILLS JUST

HEARING THAT.

Gordon: JENNIFER'S

RANGE IS PHENOMENAL, AND

HER VOCAL CONTROL -- YOU

CAN SEE WHY SHE IS SUCH A

STAR.

BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THE

STORY, I WAS 7 YEARS OLD,

AND THAT WAS MY FIRST SOLO

IN CHURCH, AND I FORGOT

THE WORDS, AND THE

CONGREGATION HAD TO HELP

ME OUT.

Efrem: I HAVE TO SAY,

I KNOW WHAT THAT IS LIKE.

I FORGOT MY EASTER SPEECH

A FEW TIMES, AND THE

CONGREGATION HAD TO HELP

ME OUT.

Gordon: BUT IT

ENCOURAGES YOU AND YOU GO,

OKAY, PEOPLE ARE WITH ME.

YOU CAN GO UP THERE AND

MAKE MISTAKES, AND THE

EARTH DOESN'T OPEN, EVEN

THOUGH YOU WANT IT TO.

Efrem: AND YOU WANT

TO CRAWL IN.

Gordon: YOU GET

HELPED THROUGH AND IT IS

AMAZING.

Efrem: BEAUTIFUL.

BEAUTIFUL.

BEAUTIFUL.

Gordon: LET'S TALK

ABOUT THE GENOCIDE MOVIE.

TO HEAR CHRISTIAN BALE SAY

THAT THE MESSAGE IS "NEVER

FORGET."

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

DON'T KNOW THE ARMENIAN

GENOCIDE.

Efrem: I WAS REALLY,

REALLY SAD TO SAY I WAS

NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH IT AS

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE

BEEN GOING IN.

I HAD TO RESEARCH BEFORE

SEEING THE FILM.

AND THEN WHEN I DID SEE

THE FILM, I WAS MOVED

LITERALLY TO TEARS

WATCHING IT.

THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT

THAT FILM IS IT TOOK A

LONG TIME TO MAKE.

THE FORMER HEAD OF MGM

DIED BEFORE PRODUCTION

BEGAN, AND HE ACTUALLY

GAVE $50 MILLION BECAUSE

HE HAS ARMENIAN HERITAGE

AND WANTED TO SEE THAT

STORY TOLD AS WELL.

TOLD VERY WELL.

ALL OF THE PROCEEDS FROM

THAT FILM ARE GOING TO

CHARITIES, TO HELP PEOPLE

WHO ARE VICTIMS OF

GENOCIDE.

FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE

SUFFERED.

THEY'RE STILL DECIDING

EXACTLY WHERE IT IS ALL

GOING TO GO.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THE

PROCEEDS ARE GOING TO GO.

NICE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.

AND JUST TALKING TO -- I

WILL SAY THIS, I SHARED

THE FACT THAT I SAW THE

FILM WITH A FRIEND WHO HAS

ARMENIAN HERITAGE, AND

LITERALLY SHE BEGAN TO

BREAK DOWN IN TEARS JUST

HEARING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE

SHE WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT

IT WAS FINALLY BEING TOLD.

THE STORY WAS FINALLY

BEING TOLD.

Gordon: I REMEMBER

TWO YEARS AGO, THE 100th

ANNIVERSARY, AND THE

ARMENIAN COMMUNITY TRYING

TO GET PUBLICITY, IF YOU

WILL, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN

REMEMBER.

AND BEING SOMEWHAT

FRUSTRATED THAT IT DIDN'T

REALLY TAKE OFF.

AND HERE WE HAVE A FILM.

DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING

TO BE BIG?

HAVE YOU SEEN IT?

Efrem: I HAVE SEEN

IT.

IT DID NOT DO AS WELL AS

THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED AT

THE BOX OFFICE INITIALLY.

THE GOOD NEWS IS IT IS

STILL IN THEATERS AND

AVAILABLE NOW.

PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT IN

SUPPORT OF IT.

KIM KARDASHIAN, FOR

EXAMPLE, HAS COME OUT IN

SUPPORT OF THE FILM.

HER GREAT GRANDPARENTS ARE

ARMENIAN HERITAGE --

Gordon: AND THEY GOT

OUT.

Efrem: AND LITERALLY

THEY GOT OUT -- GOORNLTD

Gordon: AND IF THEY

HADN'T GOTTEN OUT --

Efrem: THEY GOT OUT

BECAUSE A KID CAME TO THE

CHURCH THEY WERE IN

SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO BE

KILLED, GET OUT.

AND THEY WERE AMONG THE

PEOPLE WHO ESCAPED.

Gordon: I THINK WE

NEED TO KEEP IN MIND SOME

REAL BIG FACTS ABOUT THE

GENOCIDE.

THE FIRST ONE IS ADOLPH

HITLER REFERRED TO THE

ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AS

SAYING NO ONE REMEMBERS

THAT.

AND HE DID THAT IN THE

1930s AS A JUSTCATION JUSTIFICATION

THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY TO

KILL THE JEWISH PEOPLE

THROUGHOUT EUROPE.

THAT NO ONE WOULD REMEMBER

BECAUSE NO ONE REMEMBERED

THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE.

ANOTHER BIG FACT TO

RECOGNIZE IS THAT IN

TODAY'S WORLD, THERE ARE

ONGOING GENOCIDES.

YOU LOOK AT THE ETHNIC

CLEANSING, THE RELIGIOUS

CLEANSING THAT IS

CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, IT'S ONGOING.

IT IS AN ONGOING

PERSECUTION OF THE

ARMENIAN COMMUNITY,

WHATEVER IS LEFT OF IT, IN

TURKEY, AS WELL AS THE

KURDISH COMMUNITY.

Efrem: UH-HUH.

Gordon: THAT'S

HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

Efrem: RIGHT NOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

Gordon: JUST TWO DAYS

AGO THERE WAS BOMBING OF

KURDS, AND YOU

Gordon: I ENCOURAGE

YOU TO SEE THIS WONDERFUL

MOVIE.

IT IS ONLY ONE NIGHT.

IT IS GOING TO BE ONE

NIGHT, MAY 23.

IT'S "IN OUR HANDS: THE

BATTLE FOR JERUSALEM."

IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND

THE HEADLINES WE'RE SEEING

TODAY ABOUT JERUSALEM,

ABOUT THE DIVISION, ABOUT

WHAT THE U.N. IS VOTING,

ABOUT MOVING THE EMBASSY,

THE U.S. EMBASSY, FROM TEL

AVIV TO JERUSALEM, YOU

NEED TO KNOW THE HISTORY.

AND THIS MOVIE WILL GIVE

IT TO YOU.

IT'S "IN OUR HANDS: THE

BATTLE FOR JERUSALEM."

IF YOU WANT TICKETS, GO

TO inourhands1967.com.

JUST TYPE IN YOUR ZIP

CODE, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE

TO BUY TICKETS ONLINE.

AND THERE ARE ALSO GROUP

SALES AVAILABLE.

SO IF YOUR CHURCH OR

SYNAGOGUE WANTS TO ATTEND

AS A GROUP, THERE ARE

DISCOUNTS IN SOME AREAS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE ZIP

CODE.

ALL OF THAT IS THERE ON

THE WEBSITE.

inourhands1967.com.

NIKITA IS A BOY IN UKRAINE

WHO LOST BOTH HIS PARENTS

IN A MATTER OF MONTHS.

THE TRAUMA LEFT HIM

FEARFUL AND TROUBLED BY

TERRIBLE NIGHTMARES.

THEN ONE DAY HE SAW AN

EPISODE OF "SUPERBOOK"

THAT SET HIM FREE FROM

FEAR AND GAVE HIM PEACEFUL

SLEEP.

Reporter: 10-YEAR-OLD

NIKITA IS A CASUALITY OF

THE WAR IN UKRAINE.

HIS FATHER DIED AND THE

WAR, AND SEVERAL MONTHS

LATER, HIS MOTHER WENT

MISSING.

SHE IS PRESUMED TO BE

DEAD.

Through Translator:

I CRY AT NIGHT BECAUSE

I HAVE NO MOTHER.

Reporter: AFTER

NIKITA LOST HIS PARENTS,

HIS GRANDPARENTS TOOK HIM

IN.

HE BEGAN TO HAVE

NIGHTMARES SO SEVERE THAT

HE SCREAMED AND RAN OUT

INTO THE NIGHT.

I SAT AWAKE ALL NIGHT IN

THE ARM CHAIR, BY HIS BED,

TO BRING HIM COMFORT.

Through Translator: I

NEVER REMEMBER THESE

NIGHTMARES WHEN I WOKE UP

IN THE MORNING.

Reporter: THE

EMOTIONAL STRESS AND LOSS

OF SLEEP AFFECTED HIS

SCHOOL WORK.

HIS TEACHER NOTICED THE

CHANGE.

HE BEGAN TO PERFORM

POORLY AND ALWAYS SEEMED

AFRAID.

Reporter: THEN

NIKITA'S GRANDMOTHER HEARD

ABOUT SUMMER CAMP PROVIDED

BY CBN, FOR CHILDREN

TRAUMATIZED BY THE WAR.

HIS GRANDMOTHER ENROLLED

HIM RIGHT AWAY.

HIS FAVORITE ENTERTAINMENT

WAS VIEWING EPISODES OF

CBN'S NEW "SUPERBOOK"

PROGRAM.

ONE EPISODE BECAME VERY

SPECIAL TO HIM.

Through Translator: I

LOVE THE EPISODE WHERE GOD

USES MOSES TO SET THE

PEOPLE FREE FROM PHARAOH.

AND GOD CAN FREE ME FROM

MY FEAR AND NIGHTMARES.

Reporter: SO NIKITA

PRAYED TO GOD FOR HELP.

GOD ANSWERED MY

PRAYERS.

I DON'T HAVE NIGHTMARES

ANYMORE.

I'M NOT AFRAID.

I SLEEP PEACEFULLY NOW.

HIS NIGHTMARES ARE

GONE, ALL THANKS TO GONE.

NIKITA IS A GOOD STUDENT

NOW.

EVERYTHING IS FINE WITH

HIM.

Reporter: NIKITA'S

GRANDPARENTS BECAME

CHRISTIANS BECAUSE OF WHAT

THEY SAW GOD DO FOR HIM

THROUGH THE "SUPERBOOK"

PROGRAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO

ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO

HELPED US.

GOD HEALED AND CHANGED

NIKITA AND ALL OF US, TOO.

Through Translator:

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS

TO HELP KIDS TO LIVE THE

RIGHT WAY AND NOT BE

AFRAID.

Gordon: LIVES ARE

BEING TRANSFORMED THROUGH

THE POWER OF THE STORIES

OF THE BIBLE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE

STORIES OF THE BIBLE GET

TO THE CHILDREN OF THE

WORLD, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO

IS JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK"

D.V.D. CLUB.

NOW, WE'RE 43 LANGUAGES

INTO THIS SERIES, AND WE

HAVE A WONDERFUL BROADCAST

MAP SHOWING ALL THE

DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE

"SUPERBOOK" IS BEING AIRED

SO THAT CHILDREN CAN

UNDERSTAND THE STORIES OF

THE BIBLE.

43 LANGUAGES SO FAR.

WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO 55

LANGUAGES BIT55LANG BY

LANGUAGES BY THE END OF

THE YEAR.

AND THEN WE WANT TO HIT

EVERY LANGUAGE WITH AT

LEAST 100 MILLION

SPEAKERS, AND YOU CAN BE A

PART OF IT BY JOINING THE

"SUPERBOOK" D.V.D. CLUB.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU

JOIN?

FOR A GIFT OF $25 OR MORE,

WE'LL SEND YOU NOT JUST

ONE COPY BUT THREE COPIES

OF THE LATEST EPISODE.

WE JUST STARTED SEASON

FOUR, AND WE'RE ON OUR WAY

TO SEASON FIVE.

AND WE WANT TO GET ALL THE

STORIES OF THE BIBLE FOR

CHILDREN.

WE WANT TO GET IT IN A WAY

THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND

AND UNDERSTAND IN THEIR

OWN LANGUAGE.

SO WHEN YOU JOIN, WE'LL

SEND YOU THIS LATEST

EPISODE, WHICH IS

"SUPERBOOK" EXPLORER, AND

THERE ARE TWO EPISODES IN

IT, AS WELL AS THE

ARCHEOLOGY AND THEOLOGY

ABOUT IT.

IT'S ALL YOURS WHEN YOU

JOIN.

CALL US: 1-800-700-7000.

> WELL, DO YOU NEED A

TOTAL LIFE TRANSFORMATION?

CHRISTY WINBURG SAYS IT

STARTS WITH ONE WORD,

"SURRENDER," AND SHE JOINS

US LIVE, SO STAY WITH US.

AND PASTOR CHRISTY WINBURG

SAYS TRANSFORMATION BEGINS

WITH THE SURRENDERED WILL.

SHE ADMITS OBEYING GOD'S

CALL IN YOUR LIFE WON'T BE

EASY, BUT AS HER LATE

FATHER-IN-LAW USED TO SAY,

FIND WHERE GOD IS AND GET

BEHIND WHAT HE IS DOING.

HE ALWAYS WINS.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: THE LATE

JOHN WINBURG WAS A

BEER-CHUGGING MUSICIAN.

JOHN PASSED AWAY IN 1997,

BUT HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW,

CHRISTY, IS CARING ON HIS

LEGACY.

IN HER LATEST BOOK,

"TRANSFORMED," CHRISTY

SHARES HOW WE, TOO, CAN BE

CHAIRVELGCHANGED BY THE POWER OFED

GOD.

OF

GOD.

Gordon: CHRISTY,

WELCOME BACK.

THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

Gordon: WHAT HAVE YOU

BEEN UP TO?

I'VE BEEN BUSY

TRAVELLING THE WORLD AND

PREACHING AND HOPEFULLY

ADVANCING THE KINGDOM IN

LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

Gordon: HAVE YOU

FOUND OUT WHERE GOD IS?

I HOPE GOD IS IN ME.

I HOPE I'M TAKING GOD WITH

ME.

IT IS REMARKABLE GOING ON

AROUND THE WORLD.

I WAS TALKING EARLIER

ABOUT HOW EXCITING IT IS

WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

EUROPE, AND SEEING THE

CHURCH COME TOGETHER AND

CROSS OVER DENOMINATIONS

FOR THE SAKE OF UNITY, AND

FOR THE SAKE OF JESUS

COMING AND MOVING.

Gordon: THAT IS A

GOOD STORY.

MOST AMERICANS WOULD SAY,

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

EUROPE, IT IS KIND OF A

WASTELAND FOR THE CHURCH,

BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO.

YEAH.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS

JUST TALKING ABOUT BRIEFLY

BECAUSE I'M VERY

ENCOURAGED ABOUT WHAT I

SEE AROUND THE WORLD,

ESPECIALLY IN EUROPE WITH

THE CHURCH.

JUST THE WHOLE PICTURE OF

UNITY.

I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER

SEEN IT LIKE THIS EVER

BEFORE.

Gordon: OKAY.

WHAT IS BRINGING THE

UNITY?

I THINK IT GOES TO THE

LEADERS, DOESN'T IT?

WHERE THE LEADERS ARE

WILLING TO HUMBLE

THEMSELVES AND COME

TOGETHER.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

THAT IS HAPPENING.

IT IS JUST ONE OF THE

THINGS THAT GOD IS DOING.

WHAT I'M SEEING IS THE

LEADERSHIP IS WILLING TO

KIND OF LAY DOWN THEIR

OWN, YOU KNOW -- NOT SO

MUCH THE MINISTRY, BUT LAY

DOWN THEIR OWN AGENDA.

Gordon: IT IS MORE

ABOUT AGENDA.

THE AGENDA.

COMING TOGETHER FOR THE

SAKE OF THE BIGGER

PICTURE.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

Gordon: WHAT IS GOING

TO HAPPEN THERE?

WELL, I'VE BEEN GIVING

TO IT FOR QUITE A NUMBER

OF YEARS, AND SPECIFICALLY

FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS

BECAUSE I BELIEVE GOD IS

MOVING THERE.

AND LOTS OF CHURCHES ARE

BEING PLANTED.

AND FOR ME, WHEN CHURCHES

ARE BEING PLANTED, THAT IS

A REALLY GOOD SIGN.

BECAUSE IT SHOWS IT IS NOT

JUST ABOUT AN EVENT, BUT

THAT THE LOCAL CHURCH IS

BEING BUILT.

THAT IS EXCITING FOR ME.

Gordon: LET'S TALK

ABOUT YOUR BOOK,

"TRANSFORMED," AND IT JUST

CAME OUT YESTERDAY.

YAY.

YAY.

Gordon: WHY A BOOK

RIGHT NOW FOR YOU?

IT IS NEVER IS GOOD

TIME.

Gordon: HOW DID YOU

FIND TIME TO WRITE?

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I HAD TO MAKE IT A

PRIORITY.

AND I HAD TO TAKE A BIT OF

TIME OFF JUST TO REALLY

FOCUS ON IT.

BUT I DID IT BECAUSE I

REALLY FELT LIKE THE LORD

WANTED ME TO DO IT.

I NEEDED TO FOCUS BECAUSE

IN THE BOOK I'M A LITTLE

MORE VULNERABLE ABOUT MY

OWN LIFE BECAUSE I FELT

LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT WHAT

I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND I

NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE MORE

VULNERABLE ABOUT MY OWN

WEAKNESSES, AND WHAT I

FELT LIKE THE LORD WAS

TAKING ME ON A JOURNEY OF

DEEPER SURRENDER.

AND SO IN ORDER TO DO

THAT, YOU HAVE TO WALK

THROUGH IT.

AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS A

BIT THERAPEUTIC AS WELL.

AND IT WAS JUST THE RIGHT

TIME.

IT FELT LIKE THIS IS THE

RIGHT SEASON FOR THIS.

Gordon: WHAT, IN YOUR

LIFE, ARE THE POINTS OF

SURRENDER FOR YOU?

I THINK IT IS ONGOING.

I THINK TRANSFORMATION IS

SOMETHING THAT IS A

JOURNEY.

IT IS NOT A DESTINATION.

WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING,

RIGHT -- HOPEFULLY.

BUT THE JOURNEY CAN BE

QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT

WE EVER SIGN UP FOR.

WE THINK WE'RE SAYING YES

THE ONE THING, AND THEN WE

GO ON THIS COMPLETELY

DIFFERENT JOURNEY.

FOR ME IT IS THIS DAILY

SURRENDER OF SAYING YES TO

THE LORD.

IT JUST TURNS OUT

DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE

THINK.

I THINK IT IS THE BIGGER

PICTURE OF UNDERSTANDING

WHEN WE SURRENDER TO THE

LORD, IT IS AN ACT OF

WORSHIP AND SAYING YES TO

GOD TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

Gordon: WHAT DO YOU

THINK IS THE BIGGEST

MISTAKE CHRISTIANS MAKE IN

THIS?

I KNOW FOR ME THINKING

THAT I HAD DONE IT WAS THE

STUMBLING BLOCK.

THINKING THAT I HAD

ALREADY GOTTEN TO THAT

POINT OF SURRENDER -- AND

I HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT

ONES, DYING OF CEREBRAL

MALARIA, AND YOU

SURRENDER, BUT THEN THE

TEMPTATION TO PICK YOUR

LIFE BACK UP AND SAY,

THAT'S NOT FOR ME.

YOU JUST WAKE UP ONE

MORNING AND SAY --

I'M DOING PRETTY WELL.

Gordon: -- I DON'T

REALLY FEEL LIKE WHATEVER.

AND THAT DYING DAILY IS

DIFFICULT TO DO.

IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO.

AND I THINK WE DO GET GOOD

AT LEADING OUR OWN LIFE.

ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE BEEN

SAVED A LONG TIME.

WE CAN FUNCTION OUT OF

WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW

INSTEAD OF FUNCTIONING OUT

OF GOD'S PRESENCE AND

SAYING, WHERE IS GOD

TAKING ME TODAY.

I NEVER ONCE HAVE GONE

BEFORE THE LORD AND BEEN,

LIKE, OH, YEAH, EVERYTHING

IS GREAT.

IF YOU ASK THE LORD WHAT

IS WRONG WITH YOU, HE'S

GOING TO TELL YOU.

Gordon: HE'LL DO IT

GENTLY --

HE'LL DO IT GENTLY, BUT

PART OF THAT IS

TRANSFORMATION.

BECAUSE IF THE LORD IS

REVEALING SOMETHING, IT IS

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HEAL

IT.

SO IT IS ACTUALLY, I

THINK, MERCY OF WHEN WE

LIVE OUR LIVES FROM THAT

PLACE OF SURRENDERING, IT

IS NOT, LIKE, I HAVE TO DO

THIS, BUT IT IS MY

RESPONSIVE WORSHIP TO THE

LORD.

AND IN TURNING TOWARDS

HIM, HE IS GOING TO SHOW

ME THINGS ABOUT MYSELF.

Gordon: I KNOW IT'S

IN THE LAST CHAPTER OF THE

BOOK, WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT

KNOWING GOD'S WILL.

AND THAT SEEMS TO BE SUCH

A -- PARTICULARLY IN THE

CHARISMATIC COMMUNITY --

DRIVE, WHAT IS THE WILL OF

THE LORD TO ME?

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO

SOMEBODY WHO SAYS THEY

HAVEN'T DISCOVERED THAT?

I WOULD SAY SOMETIMES

WE'RE LOOKING FOR

SOMETHING THAT IS IDEAL.

AND THERE IS NO IDEAL

SITUATION.

I THINK WHEN IT CALLS TO A

CALLING, GOD CREATES US

AND HE CALLS US.

AND I THINK THAT FINDING

THAT ROAD OF OUR CALLING,

SO TO SPEAK, IS FOUND IN

THE NEXT STEP OF

OBEDIENCE.

I THINK SOMETIMES WE GET

AHEAD OF THE GAME, WHEN WE

THINK WE WANT TO DO

SOMETHING.

BUT IT IS NOT IDEAL, AND

THERE IS AN ILLUSION THAT

BIGGER IS BETTER, OR IF I

JUST GET OVER HERE, I HAVE

THESE FRIENDS.

I THINK THIS TREK IS JUST

OBBEING GOOBEYING GOD IN THE NEXT

STEP, IN EVERY DAY LIFE.

Gordon: HOW DID YOU

DISCOVER YOUR NEXT

CALLING?

I THINK THINGS GET

REVEALED IN THE SPIRIT.

IF I DISCOVERED IT, IT

WOULD BE WHAT I WANT.

I THINK CALLING PICKS ME.

IF I'M WALKING IN WHAT GOD

WANTS ME TO DO, HE IS

GOING TO LEAD ME INTO THAT

CALLING.

TO LIVE FROM THAT PLACE

CAUSES ME TO LIVE MORE

FREE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T

PUT THE PRESSURE ON ME.

I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THIS

CALLING HAPPEN.

I DON'T HAVE TO BE THIS

PERSON.

I JUST HAVE TO OBEY

GODMENT AND WHEGOD.AND WHEN I OBEY GOD, HE

LEADS ME INTO MY CALLING.

Gordon: IT HAS BEEN

TOUGH FOR YOU?

OF COURSE IT HAS BEEN

TOUGH.

Gordon: DID YOU EVER

HAVE A MOMENT WHEN YOU

THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER

NOT TO OBEY?

ONLY ONE?

THE FUNNY THING ABOUT ME

IS WHEN I DRIVE, I'M

ALWAYS TALKING TO THE

LORD.

AND I LOOK CRAZY, RIGHT.

Gordon: HAVE YOU EVER

MISSED YOUR EXIT?

YEAH, OF COURSE I HAVE.

THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS

WHERE I JUST TALK TO THE

LORD AND I SAY, LORD, I

DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

ARE YOU SURE THIS IS YOU?

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I'M,

LIKE, I REALLY DON'T WANT

TO DO WHAT I FEEL LIKE GOD

IS LEADING INTO DO.

AND THE LORD REMINDS ME OF

THAT SCRIPTURE IN EZEKIEL

WHERE HE PUTS HIS SPIRIT

INSIDE OF US.

AND I PRAY THAT EVERY DAY.

AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO

PRAY IT MORE BECAUSE

SOMETIMES YOU REALLY DON'T

WANT TO DO WHAT YOU FEEL

LIKE GOD IS WANTING YOU TO

DO.

Gordon: BECAUSE IT IS

HIS WILL.

AND I'M THE ONE THAT

NEEDS TO CONFORM TO WHAT

HE IS SAYING.

Gordon: AS YOU CAN

TELL, WE CAN TALK A LONG

TIME.

BUT WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO

GET A COPY OF CHRISTY'S

NEW BOOK CALLED

"TRANSFORMED."

> HERE IS A WORD FROM

ROMANS: "DO NOT CONFORM TO

THE PATTERN OF THIS WORLD,

BUT BE TRANSFORMED BY THE

RENEWING OF YOUR MIND.

THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO

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