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700 Club Interactive - May 18, 2017

In his new book, “Reclaiming Israel’s History: Roots, Rights, and the Struggle for Peace,” David Brog untangles the facts from myths about the Arab-Israeli conflict. Read Transcript


Andrew: THE HISTORY

OF ISRAEL: NO NATION HAS

BEEN MORE DISPUTED.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR

ISRAEL AND THE UNITED

STATES?

AUTHOR DAVID BROG TELLS US

THE TRUE STORY OF THE

JEWISH STATE.

PLUS EFREM GRAHAM JOINS US

TO SHARE THIS WEEK'S TOP

FIVE STORIES FROM THE

WORLD OF POSITIVE

ENTERTAINMENT, ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, GOOD MORNING,

AND WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

HERE IS A LOOK AT THIS

WEEK'S TOP FIVE FROM

"STUDIO 5."

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...

THE FIRST TIME I LAID

EYES ON YOU, I THOUGHT

HERE IS A WOMAN OUT OF MY

LEAGUE, BUT I'M FEELING

OVERCONFIDENT.

MY FAVORITE THINGS

ABOUT YOU ARE YOUR ABILITY

TO MAKE ME LAUGH IN THE

MOST RIDICULOUS

SITUATIONS.

Efrem: IN A "PEOPLE

MAGAZINE" EXCLUSIVE,

COMEDIAN JIM GAFFIGEN'S

WIFE REVEALS SHE

SUCCESSFUL UNDERWENT

SURGERY FOR A BRAIN TUMOR

LAST MONTH, AND SAYS IT

BROUGHT HER CLOSER TO GOD.

LOVE YOUR WIFE, PARTNER

IN CRIME, JEANNIE.

Efrem: THEY WANT TO

TEACH THEIR CHILDREN NEW

LESSONS IN COMPASSION.

> NOW TO NUMBER FOUR...

* WHEN I WAS BORN A COAL

MINER'S DAUGHTER *

Efrem: ANSWERED

PRAYERS FOR LORETTA LYNCH.

SHE LEAVES THE HOSPITAL TO

BEGIN REHABILITATION A

LITTLE MORE THAN A WEEK

SHE HAD A STROKE AT HER

TENNESSEE HOME.

HER WEBSITE SAYS SHE IS

DOING GREAT, BUT HER SHOWS

ARE STILL BEING POSTPONED.

* WE WERE POOR BUT WE HAD

LOVE *

* THAT'S THE ONE THING

THAT DADDY MADE SURE OF *

Efrem: AT NUMBER

THREE...

HE IS A WIMPY KID.

THERE ONE THING I

LEARNED, YOU HAVE REAL

CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE.

Efrem: THE FOURTH

FILM HITS THEATERS THI

WEEKENDTHEATERS THISWEEKEND WITH AN ALL NE W

CAST.

WITH CHARLIE WRIGHT AS THE

BIG BROTHER, AND

12-YEAR-OLD JASON DRUCKER

NOW IN THE LEADING ROLE OF

GREG.

COME ON, GREG!

WELL, YOU SAID YOU

WANTED TO GET THE BOAT ON

THE WATER THIS SUMMER.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

TWO...

> IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE

THAT DOLLY PARTON, ICON,

COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER,

ACTRESS, CAME FROM SUCH

HUMBLE BEGINNINGS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE

REASONS I WANTED TO DO

THIS SHOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE

LIKE ME HAD TO COME FROM

SOMEWHERE.

Efrem: DOLLY PARTON

IS SHARING MORE OF HER

LIFE IN HER NEW BOOK,

"DOLLY ON DOLLY."

SHE RECALLS OVERCOMING A

TIME OF PROFOUND

DEPRESSION, EVEN ONCE

PICKING UP A GUN AND

CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE.

YOU STARTED SINGING IN

YOUR GRANDFATHER'S CHURCH.

HE WAS A MINISTER.

HOW VIVID ARE THOSE

MEMORIES TODAY?

THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO

MY HEART.

I GREW UP KNOWING THAT

JESUS LOVED ME, AND I KNEW

THROUGH GOD ALL THINGS

WERE POSSIBLE.

I JUST GREW UP WITH THOSE

LITTLE THINGS THAT WE

HEARD ALL OF THE TIME.

MY GRANDPA WAS A REALLY

GOOD PREACHER.

HE USED TO SCARE ME A

LITTLE BIT.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

ONE..."IN OUR HANDS: THE

BATTLE FOR JERUSALEM"

MARKS THE 50th

ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIX-DAY

WAR.

IF YOU LEAVE HERE, YOU

WON'T BE COMING BACK.

BUT IF I DON'T LEAVE,

NONE OF YOU WILL BE COMING

BACK.

Efrem: PRODUCTION

TOOK JUST UNDER A YEAR TO

COMPLETE.

TWO BATTLE SCENES WERE

SHOT RIGHT HERE AT

AMMUNITION HILL.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY

ORIGINALLY MONTEGORE'S

JEEP, AND IT IS A

CHARACTER PLAYED BY

SHAROME.

Efrem: THE

DOCUMENTARY FILM IS IN

THEATERS ON TUESDAY.

Andrew: EFREM GRAHAM

JOINS YOU NOW.

"IN OUR HANDS," THE CBN

DOCUMENTARY DOING VERY

WELL.

Efrem: THAT'S

AWESOME.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO

SEEING IT.

IT WAS AN HONOR TO SIT

DOWN WITH THE CAST

MEMBERS, THOSE WHO BRING

THE LIVES OF THE

PARATROOPERS' STORY TO THE

BIG SCREEN, AND TO HEAR

THEIR OWN PERSONAL

CONNECTIONS, BECAUSE ALL

OF THEM HAVE PERSONAL

CONNECTIONS TO THIS

SIX-DAY WAR.

Andrew: DOLLY PARTON,

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

WOULD BE SURPRISED TO KNOW

OF HER CONTEMPLATION OF

SUICIDE.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO

SEE THAT AS WELL.

SHE HAS A NEW BOOK, WHERE

SHE SHARES A LOT MORE

DETAILS ABOUT HER LIFE,

THINGS SHE HAS NEVER TOLD

BEFORE.

IT IS WRITTEN IN THE FORM

OF INTERVIEWS.

AS FAR AS SUICIDE, SHE HAD

AN AFFAIR ON HER HUSBAND.

THAT AFFAIR BROKE UP.

SHE WAS DEPRESSED AND WAS

CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE,

LOOKING AT A GUN IN THE

ROOM.

JUST AS SHE IS ABOUT TO

PICK IT UP, SHE HEARS THE

FEET OF HER DOG, POPEYE,

RUNNING INTO THE ROOM.

THAT STARTLED HER BACK

INTO REALITY, AND SHE

BELIEVES THAT GOD USED

THAT DOG TO WAKE HER UP.

SHE FEELS LIKE THAT IF

SOMEONE THE WORLD LOOKS AT

AS REALLY, REALLY SOLID

COULD REACH A POINT OF

BREAK DOWN, SHE IS SHARING

IT TO LET YOU KNOW I'VE

BEEN THERE, AND IF I COME

OUT OF IT, YOU CAN COME

OUT OF IT.

Andrew: WHY DO YOU

THINK SHE IS ONE OF THE

MOST BELOVED ENTERTAINERS?

Efrem: I THINK

BECAUSE SHE IS SO HONEST.

SHE IS NOT GOING TO LIE.

SHE WILL TELL YOU I DON'T

WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT IF

SHE DOESN'T.

AND SHE IS HONEST ABOUT

SURGERY AND MARRIAGE.

AND SHE IS A VERY SMART

BUSINESS WOMAN.

Andrew: AND COUNTRY

MUSIC, LORETTA LYNCH, HOW

DO YOU THINK SHE IS DOING

AFTER HER STROKE?

Efrem: ACCORDING TO

HER WEBSITE, VERY WELL.

THE FACT THAT SHE

POSTPONED THE TOUR, SAYS

SHE HAS TO BE DOING PRETTY

WELL FOR HER TO EVEN

CONTEMPLATE GOING.

IT HAS ONLY BEEN A LITTLE

MORE THAN A WEEK SINCE SHE

SUFFERED THE STROKE, BUT

THEY DO EXPECT HER TO MAKE

A FULL RECOVERY.

Andrew: JIM GAFFIGAN,

WHO IS PROBABLY MY

FAVORITE COMEDIAN -- I

REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS BACK

HE DECIDED NOT TO DO

ANOTHER SEASON OF THE

SHOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD

ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS

WIFE'S MEDICAL CONDITION?

Efrem: IT DIDN'T.

THAT WAS SIMPLY FAMILY

TRYING TO TAKE BACK TIME,

FOR THEM TO MOVE ON AND DO

OTHER THINGS.

THEY DID NOT DISCOVER,

UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO,

THAT SHE EVEN SUFFERED A

TUMOR.

HAVING FIVE KIDS, HIS WIFE

JUST AVOIDED MANY OF THE

SYMPTOMS AND JUST

DISMISSED THEM AS FATIGUE.

IT WASN'T UNTIL THEY --

SHE HAD A TUMOR ON HER

BRAIN THE SIZE OF A PAIR,

AND IT WASN'T UNTIL SHE

STARTED TO LOSE HER

HEARING THAT SHE THOUGHT

IT WAS SOMETHING SERIOUS.

THE DOCTORS WERE ABLE TO

SUCCESSFULLY REMOVE THE

TUMOR.

AND EVEN THOSE TWO

COMEDIANS WERE CRACKING

JOKES ABOUT THE WHOLE

THING.

I'LL NEVER WIN A FIGHT

WITH YOU, AT LEAST FOR THE

NEXT FEW WEEKS OR SO,

BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD A

TUMOR.

WHAT CAN I SAY TO THAT?

Andrew: OVER THE

YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE SAID

JIM GAFFIGAN EVIDENTLY IS

A BELIEVER, AND EVEN AFTER

THIS EXPERIENCE, THEIR

FAITH IS EVEN MORE

IMPORTANT THAT THEM.

Efrem: THEY SAY

ENDURING THIS AND GOING

THROUGH IT, IT HAS BROUGHT

HIS WIFE CLOSER TO GOD AND

IT HAS BROUGHT THEIR

FAMILY CLOSER TOGETHER.

AND THEY'RE TAKING THE

TIME TO TEACH THEIR KIDS

COMPASSION.

LIVING IN NEW YORK CITY,

YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW BUSY

THAT CITY IS.

AND THE COMPASSION AND

KINDNESS OF THE PEOPLE

THEY'VE SEEN, STRANGERS ON

THE STREET, HAS BEEN

OVERWHELMING TO THEM.

AND THEY'RE POINTING OUT

TO THEM, THIS IS THE TYPE

OF LIFE WE LIVE AND THIS

IS THE COMPASSION YOU

SHOW.

Andrew: HE HAS BEEN

ABLE TO DO A LOT OF

STAND-UP.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

HE HAS A NEW COMEDY

PROJECT CALLED CINCO, THAT

HE SHOULD BE PROMOTING,

BUT HE SAYS IT JUST FEELS

SO WEIRD BECAUSE NOTHING

IS AS IMPORTANT AS MY

WIFE'S HEALTH RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'M STILL WORKING,

TOO.

AND IT'S A DIFFERENT GAME

NOW.

Andrew: SOME MAY SAY,

DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER

"DIARY OF A WIMPY KID,"

BUT MY KIDS READ THE

BOOKS.

AND I SAW THEM ONE DAY

WATCHING IT ON TV, AND I

SAT DOWN WITH THEM.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY FUNNY

FILMS.

AND I WOULD SAY

FAMILY-FRIENDLY.

I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED

THAT WE COULD SIT AND

LAUGH TOGETHER.

DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE

SUCCESSFUL?

Efrem: I THINK IT

WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.

I'M A CATCH TO THEM.

BUT I REALLY, REALLY ALSO

RESPECT THE AUTHOR BECAUSE

HE HAS AWAKENED READING

FOR LITTLE BOYS.

AND SOME OF HIS BOOKS HAVE

NOW BEEN TRANSLATED INTO

LATIN AS WELL.

PRIESTS HAVE TRANSLATED

THEM INTO LATIN.

Andrew: WHY?

[LAUGHTER]

Efrem: I GUESS HOMAGE

FOR THE CATHOLIC FAITH.

Andrew: DO YOU THINK

SOME PRIESTS ARE READING

IT?

Efrem: I WOULD THINK

SOME ARE.

Andrew: ALICIA

SILVERSTONE IS IN IT.

Efrem: I'M REALLY

ATTACHED TO THE OLD CAST.

MY 16-YEAR-OLD AND I WILL

SEE THIS TOGETHER.

AND THIS TIME IT IS AT

DAD'S REQUEST.

[LAUGHTER]

Andrew: MAYBE I'LL

SEE YOU THERE.

> WELL, IF YOU WOULD

LIKE TO SEE EFREM'S TOP

FIVE, YOU WANT TO WATCH

HIS SHOW "STUDIO 5," YOU

CAN WATCH IT ON ROKU OR

APPLE TV OR GO TO CBN NEWS

"STUDIO 5."

UP NEXT, THE TRUTH OF

ISRAEL'S HISTORY, AND WHAT

HAPPENS IF THAT TRUTH

CANNOT BE RETAINED.

AUTHOR DAVID BROG JOINS US

Andrew: DO YOU KNOW

THE TRUE HISTORY OF

ISRAEL?

CHANCES ARE YOUR ANSWER TO

THAT QUESTION DEPENDS ON

WHERE YOU GET YOUR NEWS.

OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS

UNDERSTANDING THE TRUTH IS

OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE.

TAKE A LOOK.

UNITED NATIONS

AMBASSADORS, WORLD

LEADERS, DIPLOMATS, AND

EVEN U.S. PRESIDENTS HAVE

ALL TOUTED A TWO-STATE

SOLUTION TO BRING LASTING

PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

AND MOST HAVE PROMOTED THE

IDEA THAT ISRAEL IS THE

MAIN OBSTACLE TO THAT

PEACE.

BUT AUTHOR DAVID BROG SAYS

THE PROBLEM WITH THE

ARGUMENT THAT ISRAEL IS

THE OBSTACLE TO PEACE IS

THAT IT IS JUST NOT TRUE.

FIVE TIMES SINCE 1930,

THEY WANTED TO DIVIDE

TERRITORY INTO TWO STATES:

ONE JEWISH, ONE

PALESTINIAN, LIVING SIDE

BY SIDE IN PEACE.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE OFFERS

HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY ARAB

LEADERS.

THE LAST LAND FOR PEACE

OFFER WAS MADE BY AHUD

OMAR IN 2008, IN WHICH THE

PALESTINIANS WOULD HAVE

RECEIVED 90% OF JERUSALEM

AS ITS STATE.

THAT OFFER WAS REJECTED BY

MAHMOUD ABBAS.

BROG SAYS IT IS TIME TO

SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON

THIS AND OTHER MYTHS ABOUT

ISRAEL.

HE DOES THAT IN A NEW

BOOK, "RECLAIMING ISRAEL'S

HISTORY: ROOTS, RIGHTS,

AND THE STRUGGLE FOR

PEACE."

Andrew: DAVID BROG

JOINS US NOW, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

Andrew: LET'S TALK

ABOUT PRESIDENT PRESIDENT

TRUMP, AND HE LIKES TO

NEGOTIATE AND MAKE DEALS.

IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF HIM

BRINGING PEACE TO THE

MIDDLE EAST?

I THINK THERE IS A

CHANCE, BUT ONLY IF HE

RECOGNIZES THE MISTAKES

HIS PREDECESSORS HAVE MADE

AND DOES SOMETHING

DIFFERENT.

GOING BACK DECADES NOW,

ISRAEL HAS OFFERED FIVE

TIMES TO GIVE THE

PALESTINIANS A STATE OF

THEIR OWN, TO DIVIDE THE

LAND.

IN 1937, 1947, 1967, 2000,

AND 2008.

AND EACH TIME ISRAEL

OFFERED THIS, THE

PALESTINIANS TURNED IT

DOWN.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY

CLING TO THIS DARK DREAM

THAT THEY CAN DESTROY

ISRAEL AND HAVE IT ALL FOR

THEMSELVES.

UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY GIVE

UP THIS DREAM, WHY WOULD

THE SIXTH AUTHOR PRODUCE

ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

MY HOPE FOR PRESIDENT

TRUMP IS HE WILL THINK

OUTSIDE OF THE BOX --

Andrew: AND HE NEEDS

TO KNOW THE HISTORY --

I THINK IT IS THE ONLY

WAY HE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT

HAS FAILED AND HOW

REPEATEDLY WHAT HAS FAILED

REPEATEDLY IS NOT A

WINNING STRATEGY.

Andrew: OR SOMETIMES

DEAL-MAKERS OF THE

PRESIDENT ARE SAYING,

WE'RE STARTING OVER,

FORGET ALL OF THE PAST,

BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

NO, NO, NO.

QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

THE SAYING IS, WE NEED TO

LEARN FROM HISTORY NOT TO

REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF

HISTORY HAS MERIT HERE.

IF HE WERE GOING TO MAKE A

REAL ESTATE DEAL, HE WOULD

WANT TO KNOW WHO TRIED TO

BUY THE PROPERTY IN THE

PAST?

IF HE DOES THE SAME THING

HERE, HE MIGHT JUST

REALIZE THAT THERE IS A

REASON WHY OBAMA, BUSH,

CLINTON, AND EVEN REAGAN

FAILED TO MAKE A

BREAKTHROUGH HERE.

AND MAYBE HE CAN DO

SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND

GET A BETTER RESULT.

Andrew: COLLEGE

CAMPUSES ARE NOT A PLACE

WHERE ISRAEL IS ADVOCATED

FOR.

TELL ME ABOUT YOUR

EXPERIENCES ON THE

COLLEGES AND WHAT YOU'RE

ENCOUNTERING.

COLLEGES ARE AN

INTERESTING WAY OF LIFE.

I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON

COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

AND YOU CAN GET

DISCOURAGED, BUT ACTUALLY

IT IS ENCOURAGING.

BECAUSE YOU GO TO A

COLLEGE CAMPUS, AND THERE

IS A CONVENTIONAL -- A

PREVALENT CONVENTIONAL

WISDOM WHEN IT COMIN COMES TO

ISRAEL AND A LOT OF

ISSUES.

THERE IS A POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS THAT REALLY

DOMINATES.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO

ISRAEL, THE DOMINANT IDEA

IS THERE COULD BE PEACE

TOMORROW IF ISRAEL WOULD

ONLY END ITS SO-CALLED

OCCUPATION OF THE WEST

BANK AND GIVE THE

PALESTINIANS A STATE OF

THEIR OWN.

THEREFORE HOW DO YOU GET

PEACE?

YOU PRESSURE ISRAEL.

THAT'S WHY THIS B.D.S.

MOVEMENT IS GOING ON ON

COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

BECAUSE STUDENTS THINK WE

NEED TO PRESSURE ISRAEL

ECONOMICALLY TO DO THE

RIGHT THING, AND LET THE

PALESTINIANS HAVE A STATE.

THAT NARRATIVE IS

COMPLETELY AT ODDS WITH

HISTORY.

ISRAEL HAS TRIED DOING

EXACTLY THAT FIVE TIMES.

IT HAS FAILED AND FAILED

BECAUSE THE REAL BARRIER

TO PEACE IS A PALESTINIAN

LEADERSHIP THAT DOESN'T

WANT.

WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE

CAMPUSES AND YOU INSIST ON

TELLING THE TRUTH AND YOU

WALK STUDENTS THROUGH THIS

HISTORY, IT CHANGES THEIR

MINDS.

IT STILL WORKS.

HISTORY STILL WORKS, BUT

YOU JUST NEED THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE IT.

Andrew: CHRISTIANS

ARE SOMEWHAT TAUGHT OR

EXPECTED TO ADVOCATE FOR

ISRAEL.

WHY?

I THINK A LOT OF US JUST

KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO BE

PRAYING FOR ISRAEL.

WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT?

IT IS EXTREMELY

IMPORTANT FOR, FIRST OF

ALL BIBLICAL REASONS.

Andrew: THAT'S THE

START.

IT STARTS IN THE BIBLE.

I'VE WORKED WITH

"CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR

ISRAEL" FOR A DECADE.

AND WHEN YOU ASK MOST OF

THE MEMBERS OF OUR

ORGANIZATION WHY DO YOU

SUPPORT ISRAEL, THEY

USUALLY GO BACK TO GENESIS

12: 3.

"HE WHO BLESS ISRAEL WILL

BE BLESSED, AND HE WHO

CURSES ISRAEL WILL BE

CURSED."

AND YOU SEE PROMISES FROM

GOD THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE

THAT HE WILL BLESS THE

PEOPLE AND THEY WILL HAVE

THE LAND OF ISRAEL.

AND YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS

PART OF GOD'S PROMISE AND

YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF

MAKING IT COME TRUE.

I'VE WORKED A LOT WITH

CHRISTIAN STUDENTS.

THEY COME FROM PRO-ISRAEL

HOMES.

BUT THEY GET TO COLLEGE

AND THEY'RE TAUGHT LIES

ABOUT ISRAEL AND THEY FEEL

LIKE THERE IS A CONFLICT.

YOUR HEART SAYS YOU'RE

SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT ISRAEL

AND YOUR HEAD SAYS DON'T.

Andrew: BUT WHY ARE

THE LIES TAUGHT?

FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE

PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T

MUCH LIKE ISRAEL.

MUSLIM INTERESTS HAVE BEEN

TEACHING ANTI-ISRAEL LIES

SINCE THE BIRTH.

YOU HAVE ANTI-ISRAEL

ORGANIZATIONS FROM THE

MIDDLE EAST AND

PROGRESSIVE ACTIONS ON

CAMPUS.

THEY FIT ISRAEL'S

NARRATIVE INTO THE

DOMINANT VIEW OF STUDENTS

ON CAMPUS, THE DOMINANT

VIEW OF LIBERAL PROFESSORS

ON CAMPUS.

YOU TALK TO PROGRESSIVES,

AND THEY BELIEVE ALL EVIL

IN THE WORLD COMES FROM

WHITE EUROPEANS AND WHITE

AMERICANS.

IT IS VERY HARD TO FIT

THIS SQUARE PEG OF ISRAEL

INTO THIS ROUND HOLE OF

THEIR PROGRESSIVE

IDEOLOGY.

SO THEY TRY TO SEE ISRAEL

AS SOME EUROPEAN POWER

OPPRESSING THE INDIGENOUS

ARABS.

IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

ISRAEL, YOU KNOW HOW

UNTRUE THAT IS.

Andrew: SO THAT'S ONE

OF THE BIGGEST MYTHS.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

SO WE HAVE TO TEACH THE

FACT THAT JEWS ARE

INDIGENOUS.

AND MOST ISRAELIS TRACE

THEIR ROOTS TO JEWISH

COMMUNITIES THAT EXISTED

IN THE ARAB WORLD AND THE

MUSLIM WORLD BEFORE THE

BIRTH OF ISLAM.

BUT THEY WERE EXPELLED

FROM THEIR HOMES IN 1948.

WHEN IT COMES TO CHRISTIAN

STUDENTS, YOU SEE THIS

CONFLICT.

THEY WANT TO SUPPORT

ISRAEL, BUT THEY GET TO

COLLEGE AND THEY HEAR THAT

ISRAEL DOES THESE TERRIBLE

THINGS AND THEY DON'T KNOW

WHAT TO DO.

WHEN WE CAN TAKE STUDENTS

AND TEACH THEM THE FACTS

ABOUT THIS CONFLICT AND

THE FACTS ABOUT ISRAEL,

YOU CAN SEE THE RELIEF ON

THEIR FACES.

Andrew: WITH YOUR

BOOK, WHAT IS THE MAIN

PERSPECTIVE YOU WANT TO

CHANGE?

I WANT TO CHANGE THIS

PERSPECTIVE: THAT ISRAEL

IS SOMEHOW THE OBSTACLE TO

PEACE.

THAT ISRAEL ISN'T A MORAL

COUNTRY.

THAT GOOD PEOPLE, GOOD

CHRISTIANS, GOOD JEWS

SHOULD NOT SUPPORT ISRAEL.

Andrew: IT HASN'T

BEEN PERFECT?

IT IS NOT PERFECT.

IT IS A GOVERNMENT OF MEN.

AND THESE ARE FALLIBLE

LEADERS WHO MAKE MISTAKES.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT

THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED

STATES, I CAN POINT TO

MISTAKES THAT AMERICA HAS

MADE, BUT I'M A PROUD

AMERICAN.

I LOOK AT ISRAEL, AND AS A

JEW, I SAY ISRAEL HAS MADE

MISTAKES, BUT ISRAEL HAS

BEEN A FORCE FOR GOOD IN

THE WORLD.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS

CONFLICT WITH THOSE WHO

SEEK TO DESTROY ISRAEL,

ISRAELIS HAVE REPEATEDLY

BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO

ACCOMMODATE AND

COMPROMISE.

AND IN TELLING THE TRUTH

ABOUT ISRAEL ISN'T ONLY

JUST GOOD FOR ISRAEL.

THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL,

AND THEN THE LEADERS OF

THE ARAB COUNTRIES WILL

STOP SEEING PEACE WITH

ISRAEL AS SOME SORT OF

COWARDLY RETREAT, BUT

RECOGNIZE IT FOR THE GREAT

COMPROMISE IT REALLY IS.

THE ONLY HOPE FOR PEACE IS

IF ULTIMATELY THE ARABS

REALIZE THE JEWS BELONG

HERE, TOO, AND THE JEWS

HAVE RIGHTS HERE, TOO.

THAT'S WHAT I TRIED SO

HARD TO DO IN MY BOOK, TO

LAY OUT THE CONNECTION TO

THE JEWISH CONNECTION TO

THIS LAND.

Andrew: THE BOOK IS

CALLED "RECLAIMING

ISRAEL'S HISTORY: ROOTS,

RIGHTS, AND THE STRUGGLE

FOR PEACE."

DAVID, THANKS FOR BEING

WITH US TODAY.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

I APPRECIATE IT.

Andrew: UP NEXT, THE

COMMAND TO CARE FOR THE

HELPLESS, AND ONE FAMILY

THAT IS MAKING A

DIFFERENCE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST

EVANGELICAL WAYS OF

SHOWING SOMEONE ELSE

CHRIST'S LOVE.

AND IT IS SO EASY WITH

CHILDREN.

Andrew: WE'RE GOING

TO MEET THE FAMILY WHO HAS

FOSTERED OVER 50 CHILDREN,

WHEN WE RETURN.

Andrew: ON ANY GIVEN

DAY, THERE ARE NEARLY FIVE

MILLION CHILDREN IN FOSTER

CARE, AND THAT'S JUST HERE

IN THE UNITED STATES.

THE BOOK OF JAMES SAYS

RELIGION THAT GOD OUR

FATHER ACCEPTS AS PURE AND

FAULTLESS IS THIS: TWO TO LOOK

AFTER ORPHANS AND WIDOWS

IN DISTRESS.

THANKFULLY THERE ARE

COUPLES DOING JUST THAT.

IN OUR HOME, THERE IS

NO LABEL.

NO BIOLOGICAL, NO

FOSTERED, NO ADOPTIVE.

THEY'RE ALL OUR CHILDREN.

Andrew: JOHN IS A

RECOGNIZED EXPERT ON

FOSTER CARE AND ADOPTION.

AND WHILE HIS FAITH NOW

EMPOWERS HIS MINISTRY TO

CHILDREN, AT ONE POINT IN

HIS LIFE HE WANTED NOTHING

TO DO WITH GOD.

OUR FIRST CHILD DIED OF

A CONDITION WHERE THE

BRAIN DOESN'T FULLY FORM.

I TURNED MY BACK ON GOD.

WHEN OUR NEXT CHILD WAS

BORN, WHEN COLBY WAS BORN,

I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE HER

BAPTIZED IN A CHURCH.

I WAS THAT ANGRY.

Andrew: BUT A VIVID

DREAM BROUGHT HIM BACK TO

HIS FAITH.

IT FELT E EMCOMPASSED IN

EVIL.

AND I REALIZED I HAD TO

MAKE SOME CHANGES.

Andrew: JOHN AND HIS

WIFE THAT BIRTH CHILDREN,

AND OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS

HAVE ADOPTED 50 MORE.

ROUGHLY ANY GIVEN YEAR

125,000 OF THESE CHILDREN

WILL GO UP FOR ADOPTION.

THERE ARE SO MANY CHILDREN

OUT THERE WHO WILL NEVER

FIND A FAMILY.

ReporterFAMILY.

Andrew: THE COUPLE

BELIEVES THAT OPENING UP

YOUR HOME TO A CHILD IN

NEED IS A PRACTICAL WAY TO

SPREAD THE GOSPEL.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST

EVANGELICAL WAYS OF

SHOWING SOMEBODY ELSE

CHRIST'S LOVE.

IT IS PRETTY EASY WITH

CHILDREN.

BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE SO

EASY TO LOVE.

AND A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE

SAVES A CHILD.

MATTHEW 25: 35.

THAT'S THESE CHILDREN.

THESE CHILDREN ARE

SUFFERING.

THAT'S WHERE THE CHURCH

CAN STEP IN AND ANY, HEY,

I WILL HELP FEED THEM, I

WILL HELP CLOTHE THEM, I

WILL HELP GIVE THEM

SOMETHING TO DRINK.

AND I WILL HELP LOVE THEM.

THE MISSION FIELD IS RIGHT

HERE IN AMERICA.

Andrew: BOTH JOHN AND

KELLY ARE QUICK TO POINT

OUT THE CHALLENGES AND

HEARTACHES THEY FACE EVERY

DAY.

WE'VE HAD CHILDREN COME

INTO OUR HOME WHO HAVE

SUFFERED HORRIFIC TRAUMA.

SUFFERED SO GREATLY FROM

THOSE PEOPLE WHO

SUPPOSEDLY LOVED THEM THE

MOST.

SO WHEN THE CHILDREN DO

LEAVE OUR HOMES, OUR

HEARTS ARE RIPPED OUT.

OUR HEARTS HURT.

THESE CHILDREN NEED US TO

HURT FOR THEM.

BECAUSE THEY MAY NEVER

HAVE HAD ANYBODY LOVE THEM

IN AN UNCONDITIONAL

FASHION.

WHEN CHILDREN REALLY

NEED SOME COMFORTING,

THEY'LL OFTEN COME TO MOM.

I THINK THE EMOTIONAL

STRESS IS MORE ON THE

MOTHER.

YOU'LL HAVE SOME REALLY

BAD DAYS, AND I FEEL LIKE

I CAN'T GO ON.

I CANNOT WIPE ONE MORE

NOSE, CHANGE A DIRTY

DIAPER, AND THEN SOMETHING

MAGICAL WILL HAPPEN, AND A

CHILD WILL GIVE YOU A

FLOWER AND SAY, I LOVE YOU

MOMMY, AND EVERYTHING IS

GREAT AGAIN.

Andrew: THE COUPLE IS

IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING

A GROUP HOME FOR BOYS AGES

9 THROUGH 18, THE MOST

VULNERABLE AND LEAST

WANTED OF ADOPTIVE

CHILDREN.

IN OUR GROUP HOME,

"NEVER TOO LATE," WE'RE

GOING TO GIVE THEM AN

ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY

WILL FIND A FOREVER HOME,

WHERE SOMEONE WILL SAY, I

WILL LOVE YOU, I WILL HELP

YOU, I LO TAK I WILL TAKE CARE OF

YOU.

THEY MAY NOT REMEMBER

US OR OUR NAMES OR OUR

HOUSE, BUT THEY WILL

REMEMBER A FEELING OF

SAFETY AND LOVE, AND THEY

CAN HOLD ON TO THAT

FEELING, AND THEN THEY

WILL KNOW THERE CAN BE A

DIFFERENT FUTURE FOR THEM.

IT IS THE GREATEST

THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN

MY LIFE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING

THESE CHILDREN IN MY LIFE.

WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF

GOD.

AND I WAS ADOPTED AS WELL.

I WAS ADOPTED BY FAITH.

I WAS ADOPTED BY CHRIST.

GOD ADOPTS US AND FORGIVES

OUR SINS, AND GLORY BE TO

HIM.

Andrew: JOHN AND

KELLY, WE APPLAUD WHAT YOU

HAVE DONE FOR CHILDREN.

WE LISTEN TO JOHN TALK

ABOUT THE FACT HE HAS BEEN

ADOPTED IN GOD'S FAMILY.

YOU CAN'T HEAR THAT

WITHOUT THINKING OF ROMANS

8: 15: "WE HAVE NOT BEEN

GIVEN A SPIRIT LIKE THAT

OF A FEARFUL SLAVE, BUT WE

RECEIVE GOD'S SPIRIT WHEN

HE ADOPTED US AS HIS

CHILDREN INTO HIS FAMILY."

AND SOMETIMES AS

CHRISTIANS I THINK WE LOSE

SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE

HAVE BEEN ADOPTED INTO

GOD'S FAMILY.

IT IS HIS IDEA.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WE MAY

THINK THIS PROCESS OF

SANCTIFICATION, OR

BECOMING MORE HOLY -- IT

CAN BE A ROUGH ROAD.

WE MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES,

DON'T WE.

WE SIN.

WE WALK AWAY FROM GOD'S

PATH OR WHAT HE FEELS IS

BEST FOR US.

AND WE DO SO MUCH TO GET

IN OUR OWN WAY, RIGHT?

AND IN THOSE MOMENTS, I

THINK WE NEED TO STOP

LOOKING AT OUR MISTAKES

AND OUR SINS AND LOOK AT

THE FATHER.

HIS IDEA TO ADOPT US INTO

HIS FAMILY, OUR HEAVENLY

FATHER, WHO LOVES US AND

EMBRACES US AGAIN AND

AGAIN AND AGAIN.

IF YOU'D LIKE PRAYER, YOU

CAN CALL US AT

1-800-700-7000.

WE WOULD LOVE TO PRAY FOR

YOU, WHATEVER YOUR NEED

IS.

JUST GIVE US A CALL:

1-800-700-7000.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS

WORD FROM PROVERBS: "OPEN

YOUR MOUTH TO THE MUTE,

FOR THE RIGHTS OF ALL WHO

ARE DESTITUDE.

DEFEND THE RIGHTS OF THE

POOR AND NEEDY."

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING US.

UNTIL NEXT TIME, WE'LL SEE

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