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700 Club Interactive - May 24, 2017

Lance Wallnau, author of “God’s Chaos Candidate” will share why Donald Trump is a wrecking ball to political correctness. Read Transcript


Gordon: THEY WANT TOTHER

HELP OTHERS AND MAKE THE

WORLD A BETTER PLACE, BUT

MILLENNIALS ARE LEAVING

THE CHURCH ING MASSIVE

NUMBERS.

FIND OUT WHY.

ALL ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.IVE.

ACCORDING TO A RECENTCORD

STUDY, CHURCH ATTENDANCE

AND OPINIONS OF THE CHURCH

ARE AT THE LOWEST IN

RECENT HISTORY.

AND MOST DRASTICALLY THIS

IS AMONG MILLENNIALS, WHO

ARE BETWEEN 22 AND 35THIS

YEARS OLD.

ONLY 4% OF THE MILLENNIAL

GENERATION ARE BIBLE-BASED

BELIEVERS.

AND 59% OF MILLENNIALS

RAISED IN THEEV CHURCH HAVE

NOW DROPPED OUT.

Terry: STARTLING

NUMBERS.

A RECENT Facebook

ARTICLE ADDRESSED THIS

ISSUE BY SHARING 12

REASONS WHY MILLENNIALS

ARE LEAVING CHURCH.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT AARE

FEW OF THOSE.

STARTING WITH THE FIRST

ONE: NOBODY IS LISTENINGT

TO US.

MILLENNIALS VALUE HAVING AE HA

VOICE AND BEING HEARD, AND

THEY FEEL THAT THE CHURCH

AND MOST CHRISTIANS ARE

OUT OF TOUCH WITH MODERN

SCIENCE AND CULTURE.CE A

SO WHEN THE CHURCH MOVES

AHEAD WITHOUT ASKING FOR

INPUT, MILLENNIALS GET THE

MESSAGE THAT NOBODY REALLY

CARES WHAT THEY THINK.

THEY WONDER, WHY SHOULD

THEY SERVE AN INSTITUTION

THAT THEY CAN'T HELPLD T

SHAPE.

Gordon: THIS IS ONE I

WOULD AGREE ON.

I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO

BE HEARD.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A

SENSE THAT THEIR VOICE

MATTERS.

AND WHEN YOU'RE IGNORED,

YOU KIND OF JUST CLAM UP

AND SAY, OKAY, IF YOU'RE

NOT INTERESTED, IF YOU

DON'T WANT TO PAYO PA

ATTENTION TO MY VIEW OR MY

STORY OR MY LIFE, WELL,

THEN I'M GOING TO FINDG TO

ANOTHER COMMUNITY THATCOMM

WILL.

Terry: OR MY

QUESTIONS -- THAT, TOO.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: WE WANT TO

OFFER A FEW SOLUTIONS FROM

THAT ARTICLE.

NUMBER ONE IS LISTEN.

THAT MAKES SENSE, DOESN'T

IT.

CREATE SURVEYS OR HOLD

MEETINGS SO THAT IDEAS CAN

BE EXCHANGED.

INVITE MILLENNIALS TO

SERVE.

SOMETIMES WE CAN DO THAT

BEFORE SOMEONE EXPRESSES

AN INTEREST IN DOING IT.

HIRE A YOUNG ADULT PASTOR

WHO CAN CONNECT WITH

MILLENNIALS.

Gordon: YOU NEED TO

DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

WE DON'T JUST WANT TO

POINT OUT THE PROBLEM.

WE WANT TO OFFER SOME

SOLUTIONS.

> HERE IS ANOTHER REASON

THAT MILLENNIALS ARE

LEAVING THE CHURCH:

HELPING THE POOR ISN'T A

PRIORITY.

THE CHURCH ITSELF SEEMSTH

BUSIER THANEY BEFORE, AND

THEY'VE GOT BIBLE STUDIES,

CONVENTIONS, CONFERENCES,

AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS,

BUT ARE CHRISTIANS BUSY

DOING THE RIGHT THINGS?LS W

WELL, MOST MILLENNIALS

WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD

AND HELP OTHERS, BUT DON'T

SEE THAT AS A PRIORITY IN

THE CHURCH.

AND, FRANKLY, MY VIEW ON

THAT IS THAT IS A REAL

SHAME.

BECAUSE THE PRIORITY OFry:

THE CHURCH SHOULD ALWAYSR TH

BE TO HELP THOSE IN NEED.DES,

Terry: IT SEEMS LIKE

IN THE LAST FEW DECADES,

IN ORDER TO KEEP FAMILIES THA

CONNECTED INTO THE CHURCH, THE

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT THATIN-H

HAS BEEN DONE UNDER THE

ROOF, IN HOUSE, TO HOLD,

TO ENTERTAIN, TO REACH OUTENTE

TO PEOPLE.

BUT I DO THINK THATOPLE

THEY'RE ON THE MONEY WITH

THIS BECAUSE I SEE THIS IN

MY OWN CHILDREN, AND

PROBABLY DO, TOO.

THEY WANT TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE.

Gordon: THEY WANT TO

HELP.

Terryer: NOT JUST NEXT

DOOR, BUT AROUND THE

WORLD.

IF YOU JUST GIVE THEM A

GOOD OPPORTUNITY ANDRE

REASON TO DO THAT, THEY'RE

ON BOARD.

Gordon: YEAH.

AND THEY WANT TO

VOLUNTEER.

THEY WANT TO GET HUGELY

INVOLVED, IMMERSED IN IT.

THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL

OF THEIR FRIENDS TO JOIN

WITH THEM.RAGE

THERE IS A LOT OF ENERGY

THERE.

Terry:TH SO WE'RE

MISSING OUT.

Gordon: AND

RESOURCES.

IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH

PASTORS, I RUN INTO TWO

THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY

INCREDIBLE.CRED

NUMBER ONE: WE DON'T HAVE

THE MONEY.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN CURIOUSLY, NUMBER

TWO IS THAT THEY'RE AFRAID

THAT THE CHURCH WON'T BACK

THEM.THE

THE CHURCH WON'T --

THEY'LL GET OUT THERE

MAKING PROMISES TO HELP,

AND THE CHURCH WON'T COME

ALONG..

SO I'M HEARING BOTH SIDESHINK

OF IT.

I THINK THE INSTRUCTIONSE IN

OF THE BIBLE ARE PRETTY

CLEAR, WHENEVER YOU SEEER Y

SOMEBODY IN NEED, HELP

THEM.

Terry: EXACTLY.AT

MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT

SENSE OF BEING RELEASED BY

THE CHURCH TO DO THAT.

EVEN RATHER THAN TURNING

BACK TO THE CHURCH FOR THE

SOURCE.

GOD WILL SUPPLY IF YOU'LL JUS

JUST DO IT.

Gordon: IF YOU TAKE

THE FIRST STEP.

I'VE NEVER STARTED

ANYTHING AT CBN WITH

ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK

TO DO IT.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: IT IS KIND OF

A PATTERN HERE.

Gordon: IT'S ALWAYS,

OKAY, GOD WANTS US TO DO

THIS.

LET'S TAKE THE FIRST STEP.

> FIND OUT WHAT

INJUSTICE OR CAUSE HAS

PLACED ON THEIR HEARTS,

AND THAT GOES BACK TO THAT

SURVEY THING.

FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE

THINKING AND LISTEN TO IT.

AND THEN HERE IS ANOTHERONE:

ONE: JUST CREATE COMMUNITY

SERVICE DATES ONCE A

MONTH.

THERE IS NO BUDGET HERE.

JUST SAY, HOW CAN WE GO DO

SOMETHING.

WHETHER THAT IS AS SIMPLEAS

AS CAN WE MOW THE LAWN FOR

AN ELDERLY MEMBER OF OUR YOU

CONGREGATION TO -- YOU

NAME IT.

THE LIST SEEMS TO BE

ENDLESS OF NEEDS.

SO JUST START.

Terry: YOU KNOW, IOP

HAD ANPO OPPORTUNITY AAGO

COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO

SPEAK AT A FUNDRAISER, ANDER,

SOME YOUNG KIDS JUST ASKEDDS J

ME IF I WOULD COME AND

SPEAK.

THEY WANTED TO DO SOME

THINGS FOR A PROJECT IN

MALI, A VERY

POVERTY-RIDDLED COUNTRY.

THEY PUT A DINNER ON INKYAR

THE BACKYARD OF ONE OF THE

KIDS AND RAISED $40,000

THAT NIGHT.

AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND

TOOK THE LEFTOVER FOOD

WHICH THEY HAD GOTTEN

DONATED, AND WENT DOWNTOWNAND

AND FED THE HOMELESS.

THERE IS JUST THAT DRIVE

IN SOME YOUNG PEOPLE.

LET'S HARNESS THAT.OU'V

Gordon: WOW, YOU'VE

GOT SOME GREAT NEIGHBORS.

Terry: YES, I DO.

Gordon: I LOVE THAT.VED

Terry: I LOVED IT,

TOO.

I THINK IT IS RESIDENT IN

THE HEART OF A LOT OF

YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY.

> HERE IS REASON NUMBER

THREE: THEY FEEL THAT

THEY'RE PREACHED AT, NOT

MENTORED.

MILLENNIALS ARE THE MOSTLLEN

ABANDONED AND NEGLECTED

GENERATION IN HISTORY, AND

THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST

PERCENTAGE OF FATHERLESS

HOMES.

AND THAT MATTERS.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR

SPIRITUAL MOTHERS AND

FATHERS, FOR MENTORS AND

ROLE MODELS, AND THEY

CRAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH

SOMEONE WHO IS AUTHENTICLY

WILLING TO INVEST IN THEM.

AND THAT TAKES TIME.

Gordon: AND LET ME

UNDER LINE THAT WORD

"AUTHENTICLY."

YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO CARE.

YOU HAVE TO REALLY CARE.

AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, I'M

GOING TO SPEND THE TIME.

Terry: ABSOLUTELY.

I ENJOY YOU.

HOW IS THAT FOR A START.

Gordon: LET'S JUST

HANG OUT.

CAN YOU COME OVER AND

WATCH BASKETBALL WITH ME

AND LET'S JUST HAVE

DINNER.

OR, CAN WE HAVE LUNCH

TOGETHER?

REALIZE IN DOING THATHA

YOU'RE MODELING WHAT JESUS

DID.

JESUS TOOK 12 -- YES, HE

IS THE SAVIOR OF THE

WORLD, BUT HIS IDEA WAS,D.

I'M GOING TO TAKE 12.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO

RECOGNIZE WITHIN THE 12,

HE HAD SOME FAVORITES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO

GO ON A SPECIAL TRIP WITH

PETER AND JOHN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME

SPECIAL THINGS.

SO IT'S THAT TIME

INVESTED.

YOU 12, YOU'RE GOING TO

COME AND YOU'RE GOING TO

BE WITH ME.RE G

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WITH

ME.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING

TO COME LIVE WITH YOU.ARED

SO IT'S SHARED LIFE,

SHARED EXPERIENCE.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Terry: AND THEN HE

SENT THEM OUT TO REPLICATE

THE SAME THING.

> SO HERE ARE SOMEACTI

PRACTICAL IDEAS FROM US:

YOU CAN CREATE A BASE OF

YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE

LOOKING FOR A MENTOR.

ASK THE OLDER GENERATION

TO BE INTENTIONAL WITH

MILLENNIALS.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES AS THE

OLDER GENERATION, I FEEL

LIKE I CAN ADDRESS THIS,

THAT WE DO THAT WITH AN

AGENDA TO SEE THEM BECOME

SOMETHING WE WANT THEM TO

BE INSTEAD OF JUST --

Gordon: WHAT GOD

WANTS THEM TO BE.

Terry: YEAH.

JUST LOVE THEM FOR WHO

THEY ARE AND SHARE THE

LORD.

Gordon: HERE IS

REASON NUMBER FOUR:

MILLENNIALS WANT TO FEEL

VALUED.

AND MOST MILLENNIALS TEND

TO VIEW THE CHURCH AND

CHRISTIANS AS JUDGEMENTAL.

THEY WANT TO KNOW THEY ARE

ENOUGH, NO CONDITIONS, NO

EXPECTATIONS.

THEY WANTPE TO BE SEEN ANDED I

BELIEVED IN, ENCOURAGED TO

CHASE THEIR DREAMS AND BE

LOVED JUST AS THEY ARE.

AND THAT'S A WONDERFUL

THING.

I THINK THAT'S FOR ALL

PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.

Terry: YEAH.

IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW WE

COMMUNICATE WITH EACH

OTHER, DON'T YOU THINK?

EVEN IF YOU -- EVEN IF

SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA AND

IT IS NOT AN IDEA THAT

MAYBE IS RICH WITH I M

PROMISE -- I MEAN, THERE

ARE WAYS TO SPEAK INTO

THAT, TO LISTEN TO THAT,

TO EVEN ENCOURAGE EVEN

JUST THE SEEKING PROCESS

OF THAT WITHOUT SAYING, G

IT'SOI NOT GONNA WORK.

Gordon: I THINK THERESON

IS A LESSON HERE FROM THEE, N

BIBLE -- NOT TO PREACH AT

YOU -- BUT THERE IS A

LESSON OF BARNABUS, AND

THE NAME MEANS

ENCOURAGEMENT.

AND HOW HE DEALT WITH A

SOMEWHAT -- HE WASN'TUL'S

LIVING UP TO MARK'S

STANDARDS.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE

THAT MARK WROTE A GOSPEL,

SO NOT SO BAD.

IT LED TO A SEPARATION

BETWEEN PAUL AND BARNABUS,

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE

SAID, I'M HERE TO

ENCOURAGE, AND I'M HERE TO

ENCOURAGE MARK.IN

> WELL, HERE ARE SOME

SOLUTIONS FOR YOU: LISTEN.

AND THEN GO OUT OF YOUR

WAY TO THANK, AND JUST

LIKE BARNABUS, TO BUILD

UP.

Terry: AND HERE IS

NUMBER FIVE: TALK ABOUT

CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES.

MILLENNIALS ARE MAKING

SOME OF THE BIGGESTS

DECISIONS OF THEIR LIVES,ION,

CAREER, EDUCATION, SEX,RPOS

MARRIAGE, PURPOSE.TRUG

AND THEY STRUGGLE WITH LIK

WHERE THEY STAND ON THINGS

LIKE IMMIGRATION, THE LGBT

AGENDA AND ABORTION, AND

SO MUCH MORE THAT IS

AFFECTING THE WORLD AND

VERYIN MUCH THEIR GENERATION

IN THE WORLD.

MILLENNIALS CRAVE

CONSISTENT TRUTH, AND THEY

WANT TOPICS ADDRESSED AND

NOT JUST SUGAR-COATED.

WE TEND TO JUST HAVE

OPINIONS ON THINGS.IONS

WE NEED TO BACK IT UP WITHACK

THE WORD, DON'T YOU THINK?

Gordon: I THINK EVEN

MORE THAN BACKING UP WITHCK

THE WORD, I THINK ALL OFUS H

US HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE

WITH PARENTS WHERE IT IS,

DON'T QUESTION ME; JUST DO

WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO.

IF YOU'RE JUST QUOTING A

BIBLE VERSE, I THINK

YOU'RE GOING TO MISS THIS

POINT.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO QUOTE

THE BIBLE -- I'M NOT

SAYING DON'T DO THAT. NOT

BUT IN EXPLORING THE

ISSUES THAT ARE COMING

TODAY, I THINK --

Terry: DON'T BE

AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT IT.

Gordon: -- ESPECIALLY

WE NEED TO LISTEN.ISTE

MY CONCERN, PARTICULARLY

ON THE SEXUAL ISSUES THATE TO

ARE COMING UP IN THE

CULTURE TODAY, IT IS

LEADING TO THIS SORT OF

FREFREE-FOR-ALL.

AND WHEN YOU TALK TO PEO

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEENO HA

THROUGH THAT AND HAVE

LIVED THAT, AND THEN WHEN

THEY HIT THEIR 50s, WHEN

THEY HIT THEIR 60s, TORY C

LISTEN VERY CLOSELY TO

THEM SAYING, DON'T FOLLOW

THE WAY I WENT, DON'T GO

HERE, BECAUSE AT THE END

IT BECOMES MEANINGLESS,

AND YOU START TO VIEW

YOURSELF AND OTHERS AS

OBJECTS, THAT IT'S ALL

ABOUT SOME MEANINGLESSOPPO

PLEASURE, AS OPPOSED TO

ENDURING RELATIONSHIPS

THAT LEAD TO GENERATIONS.RPOS

RECOGNIZE THE PURPOSE OF

SEX IS TO PRODUCEILDR

CHILDREN.IT O

SO IF YOU'RE TAKING IT OUTNTEX

OF THAT CONTEXT, YOU'RE

NOT SHOWING THE FRUIT OF A

LIFE THAT IS LIVED THAT

WAY.

WHEN YOU RESERVE YOURSELF

AND YOUR BODY, IT'S VERY

PRECIOUS.PREC

YOU NEED TO HOLD ON TO

THAT.

BECAUSE IN YOUR 50s,

YOUR 60s AND YOUR 70s

WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO

SATISFY YOU IS TO SEE YOUR

CHILDREN SUCCEED, TO SEE

YOUR GRANDCHILDREN COME

INTO BEING, TO HAVE THE

SENSE OF FAMILY.

THAT'S WHAT ENDURES.

IN TODAY'S CULTURE, I

THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET

VERY FAR AWAY FROM THAT.

AND THE EASE OF DIVORCE

HAS LED TO SINGLE-PARENT

HOMES.

NOW ARE WE GOING TO EVEN

TURN AGAINST MARRIAGE

ITSELF?

AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO

MEAN?

Terry: AND I THINK

THE VALUE OF THE WORD IN

THAT IS RECOGNIZING THAT, IF

JESUS SAID, IF YOU LOVE

ME, YOU'LL OBEY ME.

SO WE'RE REALLY NOT

TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE AS

SOME SLAM THE BOOK AT YOU.

IT IS MORE, THIS IS THE

LOVE LETTER FROM GOD.

AND WHY DO WE ADHERE TO

THESE THINGS?

BECAUSE OF T HIS LOVE FOR US

AND OUR LOVE FOR HIM.

THERE IS LIFE IN THAT WHEN

IT ITHS UTILIZED IN THE

RIGHT WAY, AND NOT AS THE

HAMMER, BUT RATHER AS --

DISWOORMT Gordon: IT LEADS TO

LIFE.

Terry: ADDRESS THETHE

HARD ISSUES AND POINT TO

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUTEATE

THEM.

CREATE A PROGRAM THAT

TRANSITIONS HIGH SCHOOL

YOUTH THROUGH EARLYY TR

ADULTHOOD.

AND THEN INTENTIONALLY

TRAIN YOUNG ADULTS IN HOW

TO LIVE A GODLY LIFE AND

HOW TO ENCOURAGE THEM IN

THAT.AL

Gordon: ALL GOOD

THINGS.

IF YOU WANT TO READ THE

ENTIRE ARTICLE WE'VE BEEN

REFERRING TO, GO TO

Facebook.COM.

> COMING UP NEXT,TH HE HAS

BEEN CALLED GOD'S CHAOS

CANDIDATE, AND NOW HE IS

THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES.ITED

DONALD TRUMP IS A

WRECKING BALL TO THE

SPIRIT OF POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS.

Gordon: HEAR WHY THIS

AUTHOR SAYS DONALD TRUMP

IS LIKE A MODERN DAY

BIBLICAL KING, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Gordon: WELL, SOME

CHRISTIAN LEADERS BELIEVE

DONALD TRUMP HAS A CYRUS

ANOINTING.

WHAT DOES THAT REALLY

MEAN?

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: IN THE

MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE

2016 PRESIDENTIAL

ELECTION, AUTHOR ANDERAL

SPEAKER LANCE WALNOW WAS

ONE OF SEVERAL EVANGELICAL

CHRISTIAN LEADERS WHO

BELIEVED AGAINST ALL ODDSAT D

THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE

THE 45 PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES.

I HAD THE STRANGEST

SENSE I WAS DEALING WITH

SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I WAS DEALING WITHWH SOMEONE

WHO WASN'T AN EVANGELICAL

CHRISTIAN, WHO WASNT.

ANOINTED FOR AN

ASSIGNMENT.

I DIDN'T KNOWGO WHERE TO GO A

WITH THAT.LL

SO I WENT HOME, AND ALL IRD S

HEARD THE LORD SAY IS,DO

DONALD TRUMP IS A WRECKING

BALL TO THE SPIRIT OF

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

Chris: HE COMPARED

TRUMP TO CYRUS, CITED INS

THE BIBLE.

HE SAID THE JEWS COULD

RETURN TO ISRAEL ANDTURN

REBUILD THEIR TEMPLE.

WALNOW EXPANDS ON THAT

THEME IN HIS BOOK "GOD'S

CHAOS CANDIDATE: DONALD J.

TRUMP AND THE AMERICAN

UNRAVELING."

Gordon: LANCE IS HERE

TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS.CE I

I HAVE TO CONGRATULATE

YOU.

YOU WROTE THIS BOOK BEFORETE

THE ELECTION.

I LIKE TO SAY TO PEOPLE,

IF YOU'RE GOING TO

PROPHESY, YOU HAVE TO DO

IT BEFORE IT HAPPENS.

YEAH, RIGHT.

Gordon: AND HERE IT

CAME TO BE.

WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO DO

THIS?

HE WAS RUNNING IN THE

PRIMARIES AGAINST 15 OTHER

EXPERIENCED PEOPLE.

AND THAT WAS WHEN THE LORD

SPOKE TO ME AND SAID HE

HAD HIS HANTOD ON HIM, AND

THAT HE WAS GOING TO USE

HIM.IM

AND .I HEARD THE WORD

ISAIAH 45, AND I LOOKED IT

UP.OKED

AND I FELT SO POWERFULLY

THAT THIS WOULD BE THE

45th PRESIDENT.

BUT THE LINE THAT FREAKED

ME OUT, GORDON WAS, "THUS

SAYS THE LORD, TO CYRUS

WHOM I HAVE ANOINTED,

THOUGH YOURD HAVE NOT KNOWN

ME."

AND I STARTED THINKING HOW

OFTEN CHRISTIANS WANT TO

VOTE FOR THE CHRISTIAN

GUY. M

THEY DON'T THINK IN

HISTORY, THAT DURING

PARTICULARLY CRYING

PERIODS, A CHURCHILL OR A

LINCOLN MAY BE WHERE GOD

HIDES HIMSELF.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I

DIDN'T CATCH IT EARLIER,

BUT THAT SAME ISAIAH 45

SAYS, "THAN HIDES

THYSELF."

IG THINK HE HIDES HIMSELF

RIGHT NOW DOING SOMETHING

AMAZING, IF WE UNDERSTOOD

IT.

Gordon: HE SAW THE

GLORY AND THEN HE WROTE,

"SURELY YOU ARE THE GOD."

GOD SEEMS TO TAKE DELIGHT

IN PICKING THE UNUSUAL.

HE DOES.

WHICH LEAVES NONE OF US

SAFE.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: WHAT IS IT

THAT YOU THINK TRUMP IS

ORDAINED OR ANOINTED TO

DO?

WHAT IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO?

HE WHEN I WROTE THE BOOK,

I FELT -- AND IT WAS

PROBABLY BECAUSE I HAD

SOME TREMENDOUS

FOREBODINGS OF WHAT WOULDAS

HAPPENN' IF HE WASN'T

ELECTED.

I THINK AMERICA'S

FINANCIALRI SITUATION IS

PRECARIOUS BECAUSE OF ITS

DEBT.

AND I WAS THINKING HE IS

ANOINTED AS A CYRUSUS

BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO

STAND IN A CREW CRUCIBLE.

WE REALLY DO HAVE TWO

TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WORLD

VIEWS COLLIDELY

INSTITUTIONALLY RIGHT NOW.INCO

IT WON'T TAKE MUCH TO

REALLY BRING THIS THING TOAL

A FULL I BOIL.

THIS WILL BE LIKE ATHIS

LINCOLN OR A CHURCHILL,

SOMEONE WHO GOD PUT INTO

POSITION WHO HAS THE

DISPOSITION TO MAKE THE

RIGHT DECISIONS IN THAT

CRUCIBLE..

AND I ANTICIPATE IT IS

GOING TO GET MORE BUMPY,

NOT EASIER.

I THINK CHRISTIANS NEED TO

RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A

WINDOW, ACTUALLY, TO BE

ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND

TO AFFECT CHANGE.D TO

AND IF WE JUST SIT BACK

AND SAY, WELL, THAT WAS

DONE, AND GO BACK TOGE.

BUSINESS AS USUAL, WE'LL

BE MAKING AN HISTORIC

MISTAKE.

Gordon: HAVE WE DONE

THAT THROUGH THE

GENERATIONS, THOUGH?

I DON'T THINK IT IS

ANYTHING NEW THAT WE

INVEST SO MUCHTH IN THE

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,

THAT WE NEGLECT TO TRAIN

THE NEXT GENERATION.

I THINK THE COST IS

ACCUMULATIVE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ABUSEBUSE

YOUR BODY IN YOUR 20s,

KEEP DOING THAT IN YOURT IN

30s, AND IN YOUR 50s

SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IT IS A NOT A FICTION THAT

THERE ISTH A BIAS IN MEDIA.

AND THERE I IT IS NOT FICTION THAT

THERE IS A BIAS IN

HOLLYWOOD.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF AC

DEMIA ANDEEMIA ANDACADEMA AND HOLLYWOOD AN D

EDUCATION COME TOGETHER?

THEY RESONATE WITHH SO

SOCIALISM.

AND THE TRUTH IS THEY

DON'T UNDERSTAND SOCIALISM

BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEBATE

GIVEN TO THEM THROUGH MARX

MARXIS PROFESSORS.

IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THEIR

DREAMS HAVE TO BE CASHED

IN SO EVERYBODY CAN SHAREE

INAN THE SAME DREAM, WHICH

DOESN'T WORK IN HISTORY --

I THINK YOU'LL SEE AN

MILLENNIAL AWAKENING.

SO WHAT DOES CHRISTIAN

WORLD VIEW REALLY MEAN IN

SECULAR TERMS?

HOW CAN WE MAKE IT

PALPABLE TO A SECULAR

AUDIENCE?

Gordon: I THINK

YOU'RE HITTING THE NAIL ON

THE HEAD.

I WAS HIT ON THE HEAD THAT

MILLENNIALS AGREED WITH

THE STATEMENT, TO EACH

ACCORDING TO HIS NEED,

WHICH IS STRAIGHT OUT OF

MARX.

THEY IDENTIFIED WITH THAT

STATEMENT.

THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS A

GOOD THING TODO DO.

I KNOW.

Gordon: WITHOUT COS

REALIZING THE SOCIAL COST.

BY THE WAY, SOME COUNTRIES

HAVE TRIED THAT --

AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

LIKE MARGARET THATCHER

SAID THAT SOCIALISM WORKS

UP UNTIL YOU RUN OUT OF

PEOPLE WITH MONEY, AND

THEN THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IS

TO DISTRIBUTE IT FROM.NT.

Gordon: WHICH IS A

GOOD POINT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK GOD IS

SAYING RIGHT NOW?

I FELT IT WAS DARING

ENOUGH IN 2015 -- THERE

WAS ONLY LIKE THREE PEOPLE

WHO WERE SAYING TRUMP IS

THE MAN BECAUSE EVERYBODY

WAS LOOKING FOR A

CHRISTIAN FIRST.

PEOPLE KIND OF PILED OND ON

LATER AS THEY LOST CRUZRUZ

AND OTHER PEOPLE.

I SAID, NO, HE IS THE GUY

BECAUSE GOD HAS A

CONTROVERSY WITH THEHE

AMERICAN CHURCH.RCH.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR

DELIVERER ON A WHITE

HORSE, BUT THE CHURCH

ISN'T ENGAGING THE NATION.

SO GOD IS GOING TO DO HIS

UNTIDY WORK.

GOD IS ABOUT TO DOR I

SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO

BE UNIQUE.

AFTER I GOD THE BOOK OUT,

I THOUGHT I COULD GET OUT

OF POLITICS, BUT IT WASN'THAT

THAT EASY.LT T

THE NEXT THING I HEARD THE

LORD SAY, DANIEL

INTERCEDED, AND AFTER

THAT, ESRA WAS ARRIVING AS AS

A TEACHING PREACH.AND

AND ESRA MOBILIZED THE

PEOPLE OF GOD TO MOVE INDIRE

THE DIRECTION CALLED THEM,

AND AFTER THAT, NEHEMIAH

CAME AND BUILT THE WALL.ID S

THE LORD SAID, STUDY THE

SEQUENCE.

THE CHRISTIANS SHOWED UP

IN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS

AND GOT THIS MAN ELECTED.

HE IS NOT A SPIRITUAL

REFORMER -- HE IS AS A

SECULAR REFORMER, BUT HE

WILL BE OUR FRIEND.

IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF

TRUMP MAKES A DECREE OR AA

STATEMENT THAT CHALLENGES

THE CHURCH TO GET ENGAGEDT EN

IN THE INNER CITY AND PUTAND

THEIR FAITH BACK INTO THE

NATION.

THE NATION NEEDS TO BE

SPIRITIZED.

WHEN THAT DECREE HAPPENS,

THE CHURCH IS GOING TO

HAVE TO MOVE FROM ITS

OBSESSION IN ITSELF TO

ENGAGING THE WORLD AROUND

IT.

AT THAT MOMENT, I THINK

THERE WILL BE AN AWAKENINGTH

IN AMERICA, AND THEN THE

NEHEMIAHS CAN COME ANDUILD

REBUILD THE WALLS OR

RESTORE THE BOUNDARIES

THAT HAVE TO BE RESET.

Gordon: I THINK WE'RE

IN AN ESRA ERA, THIS IS

HOW YOU CONDUCT LIFE AS A

COMMUNITY.

IF YOU DO THAT, THEN WE'LL

HAVE SUCCESS. IF

IF GOD CAN RAISE UP

ORICLES -- I LOVE REVIVAL,CHRI

BUT CHRISTIANS PREFER

ESCAPING ENGAGING CULTURE

INTO KIND OF A SPIRITUAL

ZONE.

IF WE CAN GET THE NEW

BREED OF REVIVALISTS TO GO

OUT AND TAKE THESE

IDEAS -- MILLENNIALS ARE

INTRIGUED BY COURAGEOUS

ARTICULATION OF WORLD

VIEWS IF YOU HAVE YOUR ACTT YO

TOGETHER.

I THINK THERE WILL BE

SOMETHING HAPPENING ON

CAMPUSES, WHERE CHRISTIANS

AND CONSERVATIVES ARE E

GOING TO COME ALIVE,

SPEAKING WHAT THEYEY

BELIEVE.

AND WHEN THE PUSHBACK

COMES, INSTEAD OF

CRUMBLING, I THINK WE HAVE

A GENERATION WHO IS NOT NOT

GOING TO CRUMBLE.TO

AND IT C WILL BE SEXY TO BEN

IN THETH MINORITY, AND THENORI

MINORITY IS GOING TO BE

CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES.

THAT'S WHERE I'M PUTTING

MY POKER CHIPS.

I'M STICKING THEM IN THE

MIDDLE.

Gordon: OKAY.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME

FORCES AGAINST THAT, THA

THOUGH.

OH, MY GOSH, OF COURSE

THERE WILL BE.

Gordon: AND WE'RE

ALREADY SEEING THAT.

WE'RE ALREADY SEEING --

IT'S BEEN SLOWLY BUILDING,K

BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A

POINT WHERE CHRISTIAN

VIEWS ARE OPENLY MOCKED.

TOTALLY, WHICH IS WHY

IT IS PERFECT.SM

BECAUSE NOW CONSERVATISMIS R

IS NOW THE MINORITY.

REMEMBER ABBEY HOFFMAN AND

GEORGE CARLIN, BACK IN THE

DAY, WEREGE ALLOWED TO BE

CONSERVATIVE.

NOWOR THE OUTSPOKEN MINORITY

IS THE CONSERVATIVE.ED B

BECAUSE THE CAMPUSES ARE

SO DOMINATED BY LIBERAL

THOUGHT.

THERE IS THIS JUSTICE

THING, AND I THINK GOD IS

SETTING SOMETHING UP --

THINK ABOUT IT, YOUNG WHIT

WHITFIELDS AND YOUNG

LESLIES.

I'M PRAYING FOR GOD TOD

RAISETO UP THESE YOUNG

ORICLES THAT WILL BE ABLE

TO LITERALLY PUSH BACK ON

THE CULTURAL CHAOS, AND IT, AN

WILL BE VERY ATTRACTIVE

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A

COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE

INVITING PEOPLE TO JESUS

AS THE ULTIMATE REASONABLE

FACTOR, THAT JESUS IS

STILL APPEALING.

IT IS CHRISTIANITY THAT STI

TURNS OFF MILLENNIALS.IT

I THINK WE CAN HAVE A

REBRANDING IN ONE

GENERATION.

Gordon: HOW WOULD YOU.

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE

WATCHING RIGHT NOW TO

PRAY?

WOULD SHOULD THEY BEULD TH

SPECIFICALLY PRAYING FOR?

I BELIEVE WESP HAVE TO

PRAY FOR A REMOBILIZATION

OF THE GRASSROOTSSSRO

BELIEVERS.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT, THE

LEFT IS VERY VIGILANT ON

CREATING WEBSITES NOW THAT

ARE TRAINING AND

MOBILIZING GRASSROOTS.

YOU'RE SEEING PROTESTS

GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I'M NOT SO SURE THAT GOINGI'

AT THE CHURCH IS GOING TO

INITIATE THIS.

IT IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE

TO PULL THE PEOPLE OUT OF

THE CHURCH FOCUS. H

BUT I THINK CHRISTIANAV

LEADERS HAVE TO DO IT.

THEY HAVE TO GET BELIEVERS

TOGETHER THAT WILL BEGINTHAT

TO ORGANIZE AND SHOW UP IN

TERMS OF THE PUBLIC

MANIFESTATION OF UNITY.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE AGOD

MOVE OF GOD WHERE

CHRISTIANS AREN'T AFRAIDID

TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET

AND MARCH AND DECLARE THAT

THEY ARE FOR LOVE AND NOT

HATE AND FOR SOLUTIONS ANDFOR

NOT THE PROBLEMS.

THERE HAS TO BE AN ANSWER

TO THE PERPETUAL

ORGANIZING ON THE LEFT,

AND IT HAS TO COME ABOUT

FROM A PRAYING, PROPHETIC

UNITY.

THAT WILL HAVE ITS OWN

LIFE.

IT WILL TAKE ON ITS OWN

GRASSROOTS AND OTHER

MORPHING.

BUT IT HASAC TO START THERE.

AND THOSE WHO SHARE AOT G

CONCERN FOR AMERICA SAY,BACK

I'M NOT GOING TO JUST SIT

BACK.

I'LLHI SHOW UP.

WHERE AM I NEEDED?

LIKE THE MINUTEMEN.

AND THE COMMUNITY OF FAITH

WILL SHOW UP IN THE

BATTLE.

Gordon: AS A CHURCH,HOUG

HAVE WE LOST EVEN THE

THOUGHT THAT WE CAN CHANGEHAT

THE CULTURE, THAT WE CAN

CHANGE THINGS?

WHETHER IT IS PROBLEMS IN

THE INNER CITY OR RACE

RELATIONS OR THE CURRENT

POLICE CLIMATE OR ANY OF

THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK

AT OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU COM

SHAKE YOUR HEAD AND SAY, I

WISH IT COULD BE

DIFFERENT.

BUT HAVE WE EVEN LOST THE

IDEA THAT WE CAN MAKE AEREN

DIFFERENCE?

THAT'S THET' POWER OF

POPULAR CULTURE: IT HASS WR

WARN US DOWN.

WHEN I WAS WRITING THIS

BOOK, AT THE SAME TIME MY

FRIENDS HAD BOOKS LIKE

HARBINGER, WHICH ARE

PREDICTING THE DOWNFALL OF

AMERICA.

I'M SAYING, NOT SO FAST.

I THINK GOD IS GOING TO DO

SOMETHING UNUSUAL AND

REVERSE THE SITUATION.THIN

BUT I WAS IN THE MINORITYN, B

BECAUSE THERE WAS ALMOST

MORE FAITH FOR THE

COLLAPSE OF AMERICA THAN

THERE WAS FOR GOD.ERIC

Gordon: IN OUR

RIGHTEOUSNESS, WE WANT

JUDGMENT.

NOT REALIZING THAT THE

JUDGMENT IS GOING TO HURT

US.

T I'M PRAYING AGAINST THEPILO

PILOT, BUT I'M ON THE

PLANE.

THIS IS THE 500th YEAR

OF THE REFORMATION, AND I

THINK GOD IS GOING TO

VISIT US.

Gordon: THEY'RE

PLAYING THE MUSIC.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

BOOK IS CALLED "GOD'S

CHAOS CANDIDATE," AND IT'S"

AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS

ARE SOLD.

> HERE IS A VERSE FOR

YOU FROM PROVERBS: "A GOOD

MAN LEAVES AN INHERITANCE

TO HIS CHILDREN'S

CHILDREN."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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