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700 Club Interactive - June 7, 2017

John Stonestreet discusses his new book, "A Practical Guide to Culture: Helping the Next Generation Navigate Today's World.” Read Transcript


Andrew: BOTHERED BY A

DEMONIC FORCE.

I WOULD GET UP IN THE

NIGHT, AND I WOULD FEEL

LIKE SOMETHING WAS

SPEAKING TO ME AND WAS

COMING AFTER ME.

Andrew: FIND OUT HOW

SHE ESCAPED.

> PLUS, NAVIGATING THE

CHANGING WAYS OF CULTURE.

JOHN JONESTREET JOINS US

IN STUDIO ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL

ISSUES OF OUR TIME IS

FIGHTING RADICAL ISLAMIC

TERRORISM.

THE BATTLE IS ONE THAT HAS

NO GEOGRAPHICAL

BOUNDARIES.

IT IS A GLOBAL WAR.

Terry: SOME MODERATE

MUSLIMS HAVE CONDEMNED THE

ATTACKS, AND ONE SINGER IS

GOING EVEN FURTHER, AND

THE AD IS GOING VIRAL.

TAKE A LOOK.

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LANGUAGE]

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LANGUAGE]

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LANGUAGE]

Terry: IN JUST UNDER

TWO WEEKS, THE VIDEO HAS

OVER FIVE MILLION VIEWS.

Andrew: A

CONTROVERSIAL AD, AND SOME

PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT IT

AND SAY WHAT COULD BE

CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT IT?

FROM THIS SIDE OF THE

WORLD IT IS GREAT TO SEE

PEACE, BUT THERE IS

CRITICISM BECAUSE SHOULD

TERRORISM IMAGERY BE USED

TO TELL A PRODUCT?

Terry: WELL, IT IS OR

REALITY TODAY, THOUGH.

AND A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN

WAITING AND CALLING FOR

THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO I SAY KUDOS TO THE

YOUNG POP SINGER WHO

STEPPED UP AND SAID, YOU

KNOW, LET'S DO THIS.

Andrew: A LOT OF GOOD

COMING OUT OF IT.

YOU HAVE REAL IMAGES OF

TERRORISM AND REAL VICTIMS

OF TERROR.

AND THE IMAGERY OF THE

5-YEAR-OLD BOY FROM

SYRIA -- I REMEMBER YOU

AND I DISCUSSING THIS

PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS SO

FAMOUS, AND THAT WAS AS A

RESULT OF THE GOVERNMENT

AND NOT TERRORISM, BUT THE

COMMERCIAL IS GETTING A

LOT OF ATTENTION.

Terry: ISRAELI NATIVE

AND WONDERWOMAN STAR GAL

GADOT MADE HEADLINES WHEN

SHE TOOK TO SOCIAL MEDIA

CONDEMNING TERRORIST

ATTACKS BY HAMAS, CALLING

THE GROUP COWARDS WHO HIDE

BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

Andrew: BECAUSE OF

THAT, SHE HAS BEEN BANNED

FROM IRAN.

IT HASN'T HURT THE FILM,

IT SITS AT THE TOP IN BOX

OFFICES, BUT, OF COURSE,

NOT IN LEBANON.

EVEN THOSE WHO DISAGREED

WITH THIS BAN DIDN'T DO SO

BECAUSE THEY LOVED ISRAEL.

THEY DID IT BECAUSE MAYBE

JUST A BOYCOTT OF SOME

KIND WOULD BE MORE

AFFECTIVE.

Terry: HER VOICE IS

HERS.

Andrew: HAVE YOU SEEN

THE FILM?

Terry: NO, I HAVEN'T.

HAVE YOU?

Andrew: NO, BUT IT IS

GETTING GOOD REVIEWS.

> ANOTHER THREAT HAS

GARNERED WORLDWIDE

ATTENTION, AND THAT IS

SUPER-SECURITY.

CALIB KENSLO HAS THE

STORY.

THERE IS A CRITICAL

ALERT.

THE ENTIRE NETWORK WENT

DOWN.

IT CRASHED AND HIT THE

ENTIRE FINANCIAL SPECTRUM.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO

YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

Reporter: FAST

FORWARD, TODAY WE KNOW

THIS ISN'T JUST A MOVIE

PLOT.

CYBER-WAR IS REALITY.

AND IF YOU'RE A TARGET, IT

COULD COST YOU THOUSANDS

OF DOLLARS.

ONE OF THE LATEST WEAPONS

IS SOMETHING CALLED RANSOM

RANSOMWARE.

THEY USE A VIRUS AND HOLD

YOUR INFO FOR RANSOM.

THE ONLY CATCH: SOMETIMES

VICTIMS PAY THE RANSOM AND

GET THEIR DATA BACK.

SOMETIMES THEY PAY AND GET

NOTHING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

HAPPENS NOT JUST TO

BUSINESSES, BUT TO

INDIVIDUALS.

YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER NOT

ONLY THE FINANCIAL COSTS

TO YOU, OF MAYBE PAYING

OUT THAT RANSOM, AND

YOU'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE

TO GO AND CHANGE ALL OF

YOUR CREDIT CARDS.

YOU MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY

OBTAINING POSITIONS THAT

REQUIRE CLEARANCE.

YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFICULTY

TRAVELLING ABROAD OR

BUYING A HOUSE.

THERE ARE SOME LONG-TERM

IMPACTS TO YOUR

INFORMATION BEING

COMPROMISED.

IT CAN BE A BIT OF A

HEADACHE TO GET ALL OF

THAT BACK.

Reporter: WELCOME TO

THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY

CENTER.

THIS VIRGINIA BEACH

INITIATIVE WAS DESIGNED

WITH ONE GOAL: PROVIDE

STUDENTS WITH EDUCATION

AND ENGINEERING AND

TECHNOLOGY.

THE PROGRAM FOCUSES ON

SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY,

ENGINEERING, AND MATH.

ALSO KNOWN AS STEP.

STEM, AS A

PLATFORM TO RECRUIT THE

NEXT GENERATION OF

CYBER-DEFENSE.

THERE IS A COMPETITIVE

NEED FOR US TO BE ON TOP

OF OUR "A" GAMES.

IF WE DON'T EXCITE

STUDENTS EARLY, WE'LL HAVE

SOME STUDENTS MISSING THE

BOAT.

I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE

TO GET THIS OUT TO AS MANY

SCHOOLS AS WE CAN.

Reporter: THAT MEANS

ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND

HIGH SCHOOL.

ONE PROGRAM LASTS A WHOLE

YEAR, CULMINATING IN A

CYBER-SECURITY CHALLENGE.

STUDENTS MUST IDENTIFY AND

STOP POTENTIAL

CYBER-THREATS FROM

AFFECTING THE WORLD.

THE CYBER-SECURITY IS

GOING TO IMPACT ANYBODY

THROUGH EXCHANGING

INFORMATION OVER THE

INTERNET.

SO FOR US, THAT'S WHAT

DRIVES SOMETHING THAT

BEGINS AT KINDERGARTEN AND

MOVES ALL THE WAY THROUGH

SECONDARY.

Reporter: FOR THE

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, WHAT

IDOES THE CHALLENGE

ACTUALLY ENTAIL?

THEY'RE ACTUALLY

DEFENDING AN

INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY WILL DO THAT USING

THE SKILLS THAT THEY

LEARNED IN BASIC COMPUTER

SCIENCE CONTEXT, WHICH

INCLUDES THINGS LIKE

SOCIAL ENGINEERING OR

REVERSE ENGINEERING.

Reporter: STUDENT

TEAMS WORK TOGETHER TO

DEFINE AND DEFUSE POSSIBLE

THREATS.

LET'S GO THEY GO TO A

PARTICULAR IMAGE, AND

THERE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS

PRIVILEGES THAT ARE

ELEVATED THAT SHOULDN'T

BE.

THEY CAN DE-ESCALATE THOSE

PRIVILEGES.

Reporter: AND

STUDENTS EARN ANOTHER

VALUABLE TOOL: REAL-WORLD

EXPERIENCE.

THIS IS THEIR ABILITY

TO DIG INTO WHAT DOES THE

INDUSTRY OF CYBER-SECURITY

LOOK LIKE?

WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL ME

WITH THIS SKILL SET TO BE

EMPLOYED AT SOME POINT IN

THE FUTURE?

Reporter: SKILLS THAT

WE CIVILIANS CAUGHT UP IN

THE CYBER-WAR WILL

APPRECIATE.

Terry: BOY, THAT'S

THE TRUTH.

WE WILL APPRECIATE IT.

BUT WHAT A FASCINATING

STUDY.

Andrew: SCHOOL HAS

CHANGED A LOT --

Terry: I GUESS SO.

> UP NEXT, GENDER

IDENTITY, ENTERTAINMENT,

AND PERPETUAL ADOLESCENCE,

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE

TOPICS HE IS HELPING THE

NEXT GENERATION NA NAVIGATE.

JOHN JONESTREET HELPS US,

Andrew: WELL, ANYONE

WHO HAS BEEN IN A BOAT

KNOWS THE NATURE OF THE

WATER OR THE STRENGTH OF

THE WAVES CAN SHAPE YOUR

BOATING EXPERIENCE.

AND SIMILARLY, THE WAVES

OF CULTURE CRASH INTO US

DAILY.

JOHN JONESTREET IS HELPING

THE NEXT GENERATION

NAVIGATE THE CHANGING

TIDE.

Reporter: JOHN

JONESTREET IS THE CO-HOST

OF A RADIO SHOW FOUNDED BY

THE LATE CHUCK COLSON.

JOHN SAYS AMERICA'S VIEWS

ON ISSUES LIKE GENDER

IDENTITY, TECHNOLOGY, AND

ABORTION ARE CHANGING.

THAT MEANS PARENTS,

PASTORS, AND MENTORS ARE

FACED WITH A DIFFICULT

CHALLENGE: THEY MUST

PREPARE YOUNG CHRISTIANS

TO FACE A CONFUSING WORLD.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, "A

PRACTICAL GUIDE TO

CULTURE," HE SHARES HOW WE

CAN EQUIP THE NEXT

GENERATION TO CHANGE THE

WORLD,EVEN IN UNCERTAIN

TIMES.

JOHN JOINS US NOW.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Andrew: YOU HAVE

THREE DAUGHTERS AND A

THREE-WEEK-OLD SON, A

GREAT TIME TO WRITE THE

BOOK.

HE UNCLE WILL SAY, HE

HAS FOUR REASONS.

ANY PARENT KNOWS THAT THE

CULTURE HAS CHANGED SO

FAST ON SUCH SIGNIFICANT

ISSUES THAT WE KIND OF

FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE

CAN'T KEEP UP.

BUT LEAVING OUR KIDS TO GO

INTO CULTURE WITHOUT ANY

HELP, THAT'S NOT AN

OPTION.

Andrew: WE HAVE WORDS

LIKE "CULTURE," AND WHY IS

IT IMPORTANT?

THE QUESTION IS, ARE

YOU THINKING ABOUT IT

WELL?

SOMETIMES WE THINK ABOUT

IT AS ALL OF THE BAD STUFF

THAT HAPPENS IN THE WORLD

OR THAT IS OUT THERE.

BUT CULTURE IS ALL AROUND

US.

IT IS LIKE THE WATER THAT

WE SWIM.

WE SAY CULTURE IS TO

HUMANS WHAT WATER IS TO

FISH.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT

WATER IS, DON'T ASK THE

FISH BECAUSE THEY DON'T

KNOW ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

IF WE GO MINDLESSLY INTO

CULTURE, NOT INTENTIONALLY

THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS

TRUE, WHAT IS NOT TRUE.

WHAT IS NORMAL, WHAT IS

NOT NORMAL.

AND WHY?

THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE

LIKE THE FISH WHO ARE JUST

WET AND WE'LL END UP BEING

DECEIVED.

Andrew: CHRISTIANS

CAN FALL INTO TWO CAMPS,

ALL INTO THE CULTURE AND

MAKING THEIR VOICES HEARD,

AND OTHERS MAY WANT TO

HIDE IN THE CORNER, AWAY

FROM THE NEWS, AND NOT GET

INVOLVED.

WHERE SHOULD WE FALL INTO

THAT?

WE CAN'T NOT ENGAGE THE

CULTURE BECAUSE WE'RE

HUMANS.

GOD CREATED HUMANS TO MAKE

CULTURE AND BE IN CULTURE.

THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO

HIDE FROM THE CULTURE

MEANS WE'RE SELECTIVELY

HIDING.

THIS IS ONE OF THE

CHALLENGES FOR PARENTS OF

THE NEXT GENERATION --

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH KIDS

WHO GOD HAS GIFTED IN THE

MEDIA OR ART OR SCIENCE?

CULTURE RIGHT NOW HAS

REALLY BAD IDEAS IN ALL OF

THOSE AREAS.

BUT TO CHANGE THE CULTURE,

WE NEED CHRISTIANS TO GO

INTO THOSE AREAS.

ON THE FLIPSIDE, ASSUMING

THAT JUST BECAUSE

SOMETHING IS POTRAD PORTRAYED AS

NORMAL IT IS.

SO GOING IN UNCRITICALLY

IS NOT AN OPTION EITHER.

TO WALK INTO CULTURE,

ENGAGING IT WITH THE

GOSPEL, WITH A CHRISTIAN

WORLD VIEW -- THAT'S THE

SWEET SPOT.

Andrew: SOME

GENERATIONS ARE JUST

DEPRESSED AND THINK THE

GOLGOOD OL' DAYS ARE BEHIND

US.

WELL, THERE ARE GOOD

THINGS ABOUT TODAY'S

CULTURE.

WE HAVE SEEN THE PUBLIC

OPINION SHIFT ON ABORTION

BACK IN A POSITIVE

DIRECTION.

AT THE SAME TIME,

INDEPENDENT COUNSEL ON

THINGS LIKE MARRIAGE AND

SEXUALITY IS GOING IN THE

OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

SO WE'RE REALLY IN AN

INTERESTING TIME, AND ONE

THAT REQUIRES MORE

DISCERNMENT THAN ATS,

ESPECIALLY IN AN AGE OF

CONSTANT ACCESS TO

INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE

AND MEDIA.

Andrew: KIDS HAVE SO

MUCH ACCESS TO SO MUCH

INFORMATION, AND IT MAKES

PARENTING CHALLENGING

BECAUSE AM I REALLY, TRULY

THE AUTHORITY?

THE AUTHORITY THING IS

A BIG ISSUE.

IN OUR BOOK, WE TALK ABOUT

SPECIFIC WAVES OF CULTURE,

WHERE WE FEEL BATTERED AND

HAMMERED.

BUT THERE ARE THESE

UNDERCURRENTS, THINGS THAT

HAVE DRAMATICALLY CHANGED.

LIVING IN THE INFORMATION

AGE IS A BIG ONE.

SO A CHILD GROWING UP

TODAY WILL ENCOUNTER MORE

INFORMATION ON A DAILY

BASIS THAN A CHILD THAT

LIVED A COUPLE OF

CENTURIES AGO WOULD HAVE

SEEN DURING THEIR ENTIRE

LIFETIME.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

COMES ALONG WITH THAT

IS -- AND IT'S A

PROBLEM -- WHO IS THE

AUTHORITY?

THERE IS A REAL TRUST

FACTOR.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE

AUTHORITIES GIVEN TO US ON

LINE, AND THE TRADITIONAL

INSTITUTIONS LIKE HOME AND

CHURCH.

AND MANY CHILDREN HAVE HAD

BAD EXPERIENCES IN THOSE,

SO IT CREATES A CRISIS OF

AUTHORITY.

WHO TO TRUST IS ONE OF THE

GREATEST QUESTIONS

CHRISTIANS HAVE TODAY.

Andrew: AND ONE OF

THE WORST THINGS PARENTS

CAN SAY TO KIDS, IT'S IN

THE BIBLE AND JUST BELIEVE

IT.

HOW DAMAGING IS THAT?

IT IS REALLY DAMAGING

BECAUSE WHY?

WHO IS MORE RELIABLE, MY

PROFESSOR OR MY PASTOR?

MY PEER OR MY PARENT?

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE

SKEPTICS WHO NOW HAVE

YouTube CHANNELS, AND

THEY'RE CREATING DOUBT IN

OUR KIDS' MINDS.

THAT SHOULDN'T SCARE US.

THE REASONS THAT THE BIBLE

IS TRUSTWORTHY, THE

REASONS THAT THE BIBLE IS

ACTUALLY A RELIABLE

AUTHORITY -- THE RELIABLE

AUTHORITY -- ARE REALLY,

REALLY GOOD REASONS.

WE'VE GOT TO KNOW THEM

THEMSELVES AND WE'VE GOT

TO HELP OUR KIDS.

Andrew: YOUR BOOK

TALKS ABOUT HOW -- IT IS

NOT A MATTER OF IF YOUR

CHILDREN ENCOUNTER

PORNOGRAPHY, IT IS WHEN.

HOW CAN WE HELP OUR KIDS

NAVIGATE THAT SEASON IN

THEIR LIVES WHEN THEY

ENCOUNTER IT FOR THE FIRST

TIME?

WELL, I THINK THEY NEED

TO KNOW WHAT IT IS BEFORE

THEY ENCOUNTER IT.

THEY NEED TO KNOW IT IS

OUT THERE.

I'VE HAD DIFFICULT

CONVERSATIONS WITH MY KIDS

MUCH YOUNGE YOUNGER THAN I EVER

THOUGHT I WOULD BECAUSE OF

THIS.

AND JOSEPH RESISTED

PODIFER'S WIFE DAY AFTER

DAY, UNTIL ONE DAY HE GOT

UP AND GOT OUT OF THERE,

RIGHT?

MANY PARENTS DON'T KNOW

THEIR KIDS PASSWORDS, AND

THEY DON'T HAVE A

FILTERING TECHNOLOGY --

Andrew: THEY FEEL IT

IS NOT THEIR BUSINESS.

MY KIDS DESERVE PRIVACY.

LISTEN, IF YOU DON'T

HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH

YOU'RE KIDS, SOMEONE ELSE

WILL.

Andrew: I LIKE HOW

YOU SAY MY WIFE HAS ALL OF

MY PASSWORDS.

YES.

IT IS INSANE TO HAVE A

TEENAGED BOY WITH

UNFETTERED COMPUTERS IN

THE PRIVACY OF THEIR

BEDROOM.

SOMETIMES WHEN I TALK TO

KIDS, I SAY WHERE IS YOUR

COMPUTER, AND THEY SAY IN

YOUR BEDROOM.

AND SAID, TAKE IT OUT OF

THE ROOM AND PUT IT IN THE

LIVING ROOM.

SOMETIMES WE NEED THE

PRACTICAL ACCOUNTABILITY

THAT THESE MEASURES

PROVIDE.

Andrew: YOU TALK

ABOUT TRANSGENDERISM,

HOMOSEXUALITY, THOSE ARE

THE WAVES, PERHAPS.

HOW DO WE HELP THOSE KIDS

THROUGH THOSE AREAS, AND

ALSO AS CHRISTIAN PEOPLE

IN THIS CULTURE?

WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE

ON THAT?

FIRST, WE HAVE TO

RESIST THE TEMPTATION,

WHICH WE HEAR ALL OF THE

TIME IN CULTURE, THAT TO

NOT GO WITH THE TIMES IS

TO BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF

HISTORY.

IN THE BOOK, WE TRY TO BE

VERY CLEAR.

THE MOST IMPORTANT TRUTH

ABOUT THIS CULTURE IS THAT

JESUS CHRIST ROSE FROM THE

DEAD.

NEW SUPREME COURT

DECISION, NO NEW TREND,

NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE

THAT.

WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON

THESE ISSUES FIRST IF

WE'RE GOING TO WALK OUR

KIDS THROUGH IT.

CHRISTIANS ARE MORE OFTEN

UNPOPULAR WITH THE CULTURE

THAN THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT

WITH THE CULTURE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE

THAT SAME LEVEL OF COMFORT

IN THE LAST GENERATIONS,

BUT WE NEED TO GET

COMFORTABLE WITH PLANTING

OUR FEET ON THE SCRIPTURE

AND WHAT IT HAS ABOUT

ISSUES OF TRANSGENDER AND

HOMOSEXUALITY.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS

BEING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF

HISTORY.

IT IS BEING ON THE WRONG

SIDE OF RIGHT.

Andrew: AND WE NEED

TO KNOW SCRIPTURE.

THE FOURTH SECTION OF

THE BOOK IS KIND OF THE

TOOL KIT.

WHAT COOL KIT DO WE NEED?

WE CAN'T ANTICIPATE ALL OF

THE UNDERCURRENTS ARE KIDS

ARE GOING TO FACE, BUT WE

CAN GIVE THEM GOOD

EQUIPMENT.

AND ONE OF THEM IS HOW TO

READ AND TRUST THE

SCRIPTURE.

Andrew: JOHN'S BOOK

IS CALLED "THE PRACTICAL

GUIDE TO CULTURE," AND IT

IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR

FAMILIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

BEING HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Terry: WELL, SHE HAS

A UNIQUE NAME, LIBERTY

TURNUPSEED, BUT SHE HAD NO

IDENTITY OF HER OWN.

FIND OUT HOW SHE LITERALLY

BATTLED HER OWN DEMONS.

THAT'S NEXT.

Terry: AT THE AGE OF

14, LIBERTY GOT OFF THE

SCHOOL BUS, WALKED HOME,

AND FOUND ALL OF HER

BELONGINGS IN A BOX ON HER

FRONT PORCH.

HER MOM HAD CHOSEN HER

BOYFRIEND OVER HER OWN

DAUGHTER.

BUT NOT BEFORE SHE HAD

EXPOSED HER TO THE

SINISTER WORLD OF THE

OCCULT.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN

BORN.

MY OWN MOTHER DIDN'T WANT

ME.

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN

SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME

BECAUSE NOBODY WANTED ME,

YOU KNOW?

NOBODY WANTED TO RAISE ME,

LOVE ME, TAKE CARE OF ME,

LET ME BE THEIR DAUGHTER.

Reporter: LIBERTY

GREW UP WITH DEEP FEELINGS

OF REJECTION AFTER HER

MOTHER LEFT HER AND HER

BROTHER ON THEIR FATHER'S

DOORSTEP.

SHE WANTED TO PARTY.

SHE WANTED TO DO HER

THING, AND SHE COULDN'T DO

THAT WITH TWO LITTLE

BABIES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, SHE JUST

DECIDED TO GIVE US UP.

Reporter: AFTER

SEVERAL TURBULENT YEARS

WITH HER FATHER, LIBERTY

MOVED BACK IN WITH HER

MOM, WHO INTRODUCED HER TO

DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

AT A YOUNG AGE, HER MOTHER

ALSO EXPOSED HER TO THE

OCCULT.

SHE ALWAYS HAD A LARGE

BOOK SHELF THAT WAS FULL

OF WITCHCRAFT BOOKS, WITH

SPELLS, CHANTS, WAYS TO

CURSE PEOPLE.

SHE HAD TAROT CARDS, A

OUIJA BOARD, ALL OF THAT.

THAT WAS NORMAL IN MY

MOM'S HOUSEHOLD.

Reporter: WHEN

LIBERTY WAS 14, SHE HAD AN

ARGUMENT WITH HER MOTHER'S

ABUSIVE BOYFRIEND AND

FOUND HERSELF REJECTED

AGAIN.

I CAME HOME OFF THE

BUS, AND THERE WAS A BOX

OF STUFF SITTING OUTSIDE.

THERE WAS A NOTE THAT MY

MOM HAD LEFT THAT SAID, HE

IS IN, YOU'RE OUT.

YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEWHERE

ELSE TO LIVE.

THIS WAS MY REALITY: MY

MOM DOESN'T LOVE ME.

SHE NEVER WANTED ME.

SHE DOESN'T CARE.

Reporter: SHE FOUND

ACCEPTANCE IN THE PARTY

SCENE AND HAD

RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN WHO

GAVE HER A PLACE TO STAY

AND SUPPLIED HER WITH

DRUGS.

I DID WHATEVER I HAD TO

DO TO SURVIVE.

I WAS ALONE AND I WAS

LOST.

THE CRYSTAL METH AND THE

DRINKING WAS VERY HEAVY.

IT WAS A DAILY THING.

IT WASN'T, LIKE, LET'S GO

PARTY ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.

IT WAS EVERY SINGLE DAY,

DRINKING AND DRUGS,

STAYING UP FOR DAYS.

Reporter: AND SHE

BEGAN EXPERIENCING STRANGE

PHENOMENA AND SOME

UNSETTLING SYMPTOMS.

I WAS HEARING VOICES.

I WAS SEEING THINGS.

I WOULD GET UP IN THE

NIGHT AND I WOULD FEEL

LIKE SOMETHING WAS

SPEAKING TO ME.

AND WAS COMING AFTER ME.

I HAD LITTLE OPEN SORES

AROUND MY BODY.

Reporter: A FRIEND'S

PARENTS SET UP A MEETING

WITH THEIR PASTOR.

LIBERTY RELUCTANTLY AGREED

TO SEE HIM.

I HAD NO BELIEF IN GOD

OR SPIRITUAL BEINGS OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND HE BASICALLY JUST SAID

ALL OF THESE ARE SYMPTOMS

OF A DEMONIC ATTACK ON

YOU.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL

WITH IT IS REBUKE SATAN IN

THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

Reporter: DAYS LATER

SHE HAD A TERRIFYING

ENCOUNTER.

THESE DARK IMAGES BEGAN

TO JUST COVER THE WALLS.

AND THEY WERE, LIKE,

ENCLOSING IN ON ME, LIKE

THEY WERE COMING AFTER ME.

I DID WHAT THE PASTOR DID,

AND I REBUKED IN THE NAME

OF JESUS CHRIST OF

NAZARETH.

AND THEN THE FEAR WAS

GONE.

IT WAS LITERALLY JUST

GONE.

THE DEMONS, EVERYTHING,

JUST DISAPPEARED.

Reporter: LIBERTY

SAYS SHE LEARNED THERE WAS

POWER IN THE NAME OF

JESUS, BUT KNEW LITTLE

ELSE ABOUT HIM, UNTIL A

FEW DAYS LATER WHEN SHE

WAS WATCHING TV AND CAME

ACROSS "THE 700 CLUB."

PAT ROBERTSON SAID, IS

THERE ANYONE WATCHING BY

TV, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

ASK JESUS INTO YOUR LIFE,

PRAY THIS PRAYER WITH ME.

I FELT LIKE I NEEDED THIS

JESUS THAT COULD MAKE

DEMONS FLEE.

I DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GO

TO CHURCH AND BE CALLED TO

THE ALTER.

I CAN JUST SIT RIGHT HERE

IN MY LIVING ROOM AND

ACCEPT CHRIST, YOU KNOW?

Reporter: SHE

SURRENDERED HER LIFE TO

CHRIST AND THEN FELL INTO

A DEEP SLEEP.

WHEN SHE AWOKE, SHE WAS IN

A STRUGGLE FOR HER LIFE.

SOMETHING WAS HOLDING

ME DOWN, NOT LETTING ME UP

OR SPEAK.

I FELT LIKE A HAND WAS

OVER MY MOUTH.

I JUST BEGAN TO SAY,

JESUS -- I WAS JUST TRYING

TO GET THE WORDS OUT.

AND I SAID, JESUS -- IT

WAS VERY MUFFLED, JESUS.

AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS AT

THE TOP OF MY LUNGS.

AND THE THING THAT WAS

COVERING MY MOUTH WAS

SLOWLY LEAVING, LIKE

LETTING GO.

THE LAST THING I YELLED

WAS, I REBUKE YOU IN THE

NAME OF JESUS.

AND AT THAT MOMENT,

WHATEVER WAS HOLDING ME

DOWN REMOVED ITSELF.

AND THEN I HEARD THIS

REALLY LOUD SCREAM, LIKE

AN EVIL, LOUD RETCHED

SQUEAL.

IT SOUNDED AS IF IT WAS

LEAVING.

IT COULD NO LONGER RESIDE

BECAUSE JESUS WAS NOW THE

LORD OF MY LIFE.

Reporter: LIBERTY

KNEW SHE WAS FREE.

SHE BEGAN TO THROW AWAY

ANYTHING THAT CONNECTED

HER TO THE DARKNESS SHE

ONCE ACCEPTED AS NORMAL.

I KNEW THAT THE LORD

WAS BASICALLY, IN THAT ONE

MOMENT, CLEANING UP MY

WHOLE LIFE.

HE WAS, LIKE, IT'S ALL

GONE.

I'M TAKING IT ALL AWAY

FROM YOU.

YOU'RE BEING SET FREE.

I FINALLY WAS ME.

I WAS NEVER ME BEFORE.

WHO'S LIBERTY?

WHO IS THIS GIRL THAT WAS

BORN WITH NO PURPOSE, NO

VALUE, NO REASON TO LIVE?

HE TOOK EVERYTHING OUT OF

ME AND HEALED ME OF ALL

THE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT

THE WORLD BASICALLY DISHED

OUT ON ME.

MY LIFE HAS CHANGED

FOREVER BECAUSE OF THAT

DAY.

Reporter: TODAY

LIBERTY CO-PASTORS A

CHURCH WITH HER HUSBAND IN

ARIZONA, REACHING OUT TO

PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE SET

FREE BY THE LOVE OF GOD.

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN

WAITING FOR MY ENTIRE

LIFE.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT FEELS

LIKE, TO KNOW A LOVE THAT

YOU NEVER GOT, YOU NEVER

RECEIVED BEFORE.

I WAS BORN FOR A PURPOSE.

AND IT'S TO SERVE JESUS

CHRIST AND TO DO HIS WORK.

HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT

CAN SET YOU FREE.

Terry: AND TO KNOW

HIS LOVE -- YOU KNOW THE

BIBLE HAS SO MUCH WISDOM

AND TRUTH FOR US.

IN HIS WORD, GOD SAYS, I

HAVE LOVED YOU WITH AN

EVERLASTING LOVE.

AND HE TELLS US THAT

NOTHING CAN KEEP THAT LOVE

FROM US.

NOTHING CAN SEPARATE IT

FROM US.

ONCE WE SAY YES TO IT.

THAT'S WHAT LIBERTY DID

THAT MADE ALL OF THE

DIFFERENCE.

SHE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE

BEFORE THAT THAT SHE HAD

THAT CHOICE.

AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU

DON'T REALIZE, EITHER,

THAT THERE IS THE WONDER

OF THE GOODNESS OF GOD AND

HIS LOVE.

AND WILL IS EVIL, AND IT'S

ALSO REAL.

BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO

RULE YOUR LIFE.

NO MATTER WHAT YOUR

BEGINNING IS.

I LOOK AT LIBERTY'S LIFE,

AND THERE WAS NO ONE THERE

TO HELP HER UNDERSTAND THE

VALUE OF WHO SHE WAS, TO

HELP HER UNDERSTAND HOW TO

NAVIGATE LIFE IN ANY WAY,

SHAPE, OR FORM, TO SHARE

TRUTH OR WISDOM WITH HER.

AND SHE WENT THROUGH MANY,

MANY LOST YEARS AND MUCH

PAIN BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE

TELLS US THAT JESUS IS THE

GOOD SHEPHERD, AND THIS IS

THE PICTURE THAT I LOVE

THAT HE PAINTS: THE

SHEPHERD LEAVES HIS ENTIRE

FLOCK TO GO AFTER ONE THAT

IS LOST.

SO THOSE OF US WHO KNOW

HIM AND LOVE HIM, WE'RE

GATHERED TOGETHER, WE'RE

LINKED TOGETHER BY OUR

COMMON LOVE FOR HIM.

AND WHEN YOU'RE LOST AND

OUT THERE IN THE FAR

COUNTRY, HE'S COMING TO

FIND YOU.

HE'S COMING TO FIND YOU

RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.

AND SO GOD IS ALWAYS

REACHING OUT TO US.

I THINK THAT'S THE PICTURE

OF JESUS ON THE CROSS, HIS

ARMS STRETCHED OUT.

HIS BLOOD COVERING OUR

SIN.

HIS LIFE BEING OFFERED SO

THAT WE COULD HAVE LIFE.

HIS LOVE BEING SHED FORTH

SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND OUR

VALUE.

LISTEN, TODAY, IF YOU IN

ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM

HAVE DABBLED IN THE

OCCULT, YOU DO WHAT SHE

DID: FIRST AND FOREMOST

INVITE JESUS CHRIST INTO

YOUR HEART AND YOUR LIFE.

SURRENDER TO HIM.

LET HIM KNOW YOU WANT HIS

LOVE.

YOU WANT HIS FORGIVENESS.

YOU WANT TO BELONG TO HIM.

AND THEN REBUKE THAT EVIL

IN THE NAME OF JESUS

CHRIST.

AND IT MUST FLEE.

IT MUST FLEE AT THE NAME

OF JESUS.

AT THE NAME OF JESUS,

EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND

EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS

THAT HE IS LORD.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEONE

TO CONFESS WITH YOU TODAY,

OUR TOLL-FREE NUMBER IS

1-800-700-7000.

Andrew: MAYBE YOU

NEVER PRAYED BEFORE, OR

MAYBE YOU'RE A CHRIST

FOLLOWER IN THE MIDST OF

DISCOURAGEMENT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO PRAY WITH

YOU.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS: "FOR THE GRACE OF

GOD HAS APPEARED THAT

OFFERS SALVATION TO ALL

PEOPLE."

YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE

PEOPLE.

REJOICE IN WHAT THE LORD

HAS DONE.

> FOR TERRY MEEUWSEN,

I'M ANDREW KNOX, AND WE'LL

SEE YOU TOMORROW ON "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

BYE-BYE.

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