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700 Club Interactive - June 12, 2017

Geoff Banks shares how his father’s prayers pulled him from the pit of drug addiction; James Banks tells parents of prodigals to keep praying. Read Transcript


Gordon: HE WAS A

PREACHER'S SON WHO DIDN'T

GO TO CHURCH.

INSTEAD HIS DRUG ADDICTION

KEPT HIM IN AND OUT OF

REHAB AND JAIL.

IT REALLY BECAME A

NIGHTMARE.

Gordon: UNTIL THE DAY

IT ALL CAME CRASHING DOWN.

I PASSED OUT AT THE

WHEEL AND HIT A POWER

POLE.

Gordon: HEAR HOW THE

PRAYERS OF HIS FATHER

HELPED RESCUE THIS

PRODIGAL SON ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

> IF YOU'RE PRAYING FOR

A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS

AWAY FROM GOD, TODAY'S

SHOW IS FOR YOU.

JAMES AND JEFF'S STORY

READS LIKE THE PARABLE OF

THE PRODIGAL SON.

JEFF WAS THE PREACHER'S

KID WHO WANTED EVERYTHING

THE WORLD HAD TO OFFER

HIM, AND DURING HIS YEARS

OF WILD LIVING, HIS

FATHER, JAMES, FAITHFULLY

PRAYED FOR HIM.

LATER WE'LL HEAR FROM

JAMES, BUT FIRST, HERE IS

JEFF'S STORY.

MAN, I DID NOT LIKE THE

WAY MY LIFE WAS GOING.

I DO NOT LIKE WHERE I'M AT

RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY

HIT BOTTOM THERE, BUT

THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED

THAT, LIKE, I DIDN'T NEED

TO MAKE SOME CHANGES; I'M

GOING TO ESSENTIALLY DIE

OR END UP IN PRISON.

AFTER GETTING ARRESTED FOR

THE FIRST TIME WITH A

LITTLE BIT OF WEED, MY

HABIT REALLY STARTED TO

GROW.

I WAS REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT

EVERY KIND OF DRUG THERE

WAS.

I WAS DOING ANYTHING I GOT

MY HANDS ON.

FINANCIALLY, OBVIOUSLY, I

DIDN'T HAVE A JOB.

AND I WAS A TEENAGER, SO

WASN'T BRINGING ANY INCOME

IN.

I WAS DOING WHATEVER I

COULD TO MAKE MONEY.

AND THEY STARTED ME

SELLING PILLS.

IT WAS NEVER LIKE, I'M

GOING TO BE A DRUG DEALER,

IT WAS, HEY, THIS GUY

NEEDS SOMETHING AND I CAN

MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY AND

GET SOME FOR ME FOR FREE.

THAT'S EVENTUALLY WHERE IT

STARTED.

THERE WERE SEVERAL

OCCASIONS WHERE I GOT IN

PRETTY BIG TROUBLE WITH

THAT.

THE FIRST BAD ONE WAS I

GOT CAUGHT WITH ECSTASY AT

SCHOOL.

I WAS SELLING THEM TO

PEOPLE AT SCHOOL, AND I

GUESS SOMEONE TOLD ON ME,

ESSENTIALLY, AND THEY CAME

AND DRAGGED ME OUT OF

CLASSROOM AND SEARCHED ME

AND TOOK ME TO JAIL THAT

DAY.

ONCE I GOT TO COLLEGE, IT

BECAME -- IT WASN'T JUST

WEED ANYMORE.

THAT'S WHEN I SOLELY

BECAME FOCUSED ON JUST

OPIATES.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WEED

OR ECSTASY.

I JUST WANTED TO DO

PAINKILLERS.

I GOT MIXED UP WITH THESE

GUYS SELLING HEROIN.

AND THE SAME DEAL, I HAD

DRAWN THIS LINE IN THE

SAND SAYING, I'M NEVER

GOING TO DO THIS.

BUT YOU GET DESENSITIZED

TO IT BEING AROUND IT ALL

OF THE TIME.

YOU SEE THIS PERSON DO IT

AND THAT PERSON DO IT, AND

THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE THEIR

LIVES ARE FALLING APART,

SO WHY NOT.

I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME

I DID IT.

I COULDN'T GET MY HANDS ON

ANY PILLS, SO I WAS REALLY

SICK FROM WITHDRAWAL

SYMPTOMS.

THIS GIRL WAS DATING AT

THE TIME WAS, LIKE, WHY

DON'T YOU JUST DO SOME

HEROIN.

THAT'S WHERE I ENDED UP

GOING.

THE SECOND I DID THAT,

THERE WAS, LIKE, NO

TURNING BACK.

SO I HAD THIS HUGE STASH

THAT I'D BEEN SELLING FOR

PEOPLE, AND ONCE I TRIED

IT, IT WAS, LIKE, FORGET

SELLING IT; I'M GOING TO

USE IT.

AND, AGAIN, THE SAME THING

HAPPENED.

I ENDED UP OWING ALL OF

THESE PEOPLE MONEY.

THAT'S WHERE IT TOOK ME,

TO LIFE CONSTANTLY IN

DANGER, AND NOT JUST

BECAUSE OF THE DRUG USE,

BUT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE

I WAS AROUND, TOO.

I GOT IN A RELATIONSHIP

WITH THIS GIRL -- SHE WAS

A GREAT GIRL.

SHE WAS FAIRLY WEALTHY.

I WAS KIND OF GOING DOWN

THIS PATH OF, LIKE, GOING

BACK TO HEROIN,

ESSENTIALLY.

AND AFTER -- I THINK I HAD

GONE BACK TO REHAB ONE

MORE TIME AND IT WAS THIS

OVER AND OVER AGAIN THING,

ANYWAYS, ONE OF THE TIMES

I HAD GOTTEN BACK OUT AND

I WAS BACK ON HEROIN.

I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND

I WAS SICK AS A DOG.

ALMOST EVERY MORNING I

WOULD TAKE HER CAR BECAUSE

I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR AT THE

TIME, AND SO I WOULD WAKE

UP EARLIER THAN SHE DID,

AND I WOULD TAKE HER CAR

AND HER WALLET, AND I

WOULD STEAL MONEY FROM

HER.

AND SHE WOULDN'T NOTICE,

OR AT LEAST NOT UNTIL

LATER.

AND ONE MORNING I WAS

DOING THIS, AND I

LITERALLY DID IT ALMOST

EVERY MORNING, AND ONE

MORNING I WAS DOING IT,

AND I GUESS IT WAS

PARTICULARLY STRONG STUFF

THAT DAY.

I WAS SO SICK THAT I

PULLED OFF ON THE SIDE OF

THE ROAD -- I WAS IN THE

CAR AND I PULLED OFF ON

THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO DO

IT THERE.

AND WHENEVER I DID, YOU

KNOW, I SHOT UP AND I

PULLED OUT WITH THE NEEDLE

STILL IN MY ARM AND I

PASSED OUT AT THE WHEEL

AND HIT A POWER POLE.

I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER

MUCH OF IT.

I JUST REMEMBER SLIDING

BECAUSE IT WAS RAINING

THAT DAY.

I REMEMBER SLIDING

SIDEWAYS AND SEEING THIS

POLE COMING AT ME.

AFTER THE COPS GOT THERE,

THEY FOUND ME WITH THE

NEEDLE IN MY ARM AND

SPINNING ON THE SEAT.

THEY TOOK ME TO THE

HOSPITAL.

THAT WAS THE LAST STRAW

FOR ME.

I GUESS AFTER GETTING OUT

OF THE HOSPITAL AND GOING

STRAIGHT BACK TO JAIL, YOU

KNOW, I REALIZED I HAD

LOST PRETTY MUCH

EVERYTHING.

I HAD A PRETTY GOOD

RELATIONSHIP AND I HAD

RUINED THAT.

I WAS ON THE VERGE OF

GETTING KICKED OUT OF MY

APARTMENT BECAUSE MY

PARENTS WEREN'T HELPING ME

OUT ANYMORE.

I WRECKED THIS GIRL'S CAR

AND HAD STOLEN THOUSANDS

OF DOLLARS FROM HER.

I GUESS THAT SITUATION

MADE ME REALLY TAKE

INVENTORY OF MY LIFE.

AND I REALIZED THAT WAS

NOT AT ALL WHAT I WANTED

IT TO BE.

I KNEW I WANTED TO STOP

DOING DRUGS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO RUIN MY

LIFE ANYMORE AND I DIDN'T

WANT TO DIE OR GO TO JAIL

OR PRISON OR WHATEVER.

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO BE

LIKE THIS CHRISTIAN,

EITHER.

I FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST A

TON OF RULES.

AND, LIKE, THAT, YOU KNOW,

I DIDN'T HAVE A CONCEPT OF

A RELATIONSHIP WITHED GOD.

IT WAS ALL ABOUT RULES AND

BEHAVING YOURSELF, AND I

COULD NEVER SEE MYSELF

DOING THAT.

SO I KNEW THAT I NEEDED

HELP, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO

GET IT THERE.

AND FOR ME IT TOOK A LOT

OF, LIKE, QUESTIONING AND,

MAN, I REALLY DON'T

BELIEVE IN THIS.

THIS GUY CAME BACK TO

LIFE, SERIOUSLY?

AND THAT MAKES A

DIFFERENCE FOR HERE AND

NOW?

AND YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE

IN THIS BOOK THAT IS A

THOUSAND YEARS OLD, OR

WHATEVER, AND APPLY IT TO

MY LIFE?

GOING THROUGH AND

QUESTIONING THAT STUFF AND

BEING IN A PLACE WHERE I

COULD QUESTION IT AND

PEOPLE BEING OKAY WITH MY

QUESTIONS -- I READ ISAIAH

43: 2, AND THAT WAS THE

FIRST TIME GOD SPOKE TO

ME.

"WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE

FIRE, I'M WITH YOU.

AND WHENEVER YOU GO

THROUGH THE WATERS, THEY

WON'T OVERWHELM YOU."

AND WHEN I READ THAT, I

REALIZED, THAT WAS THE

FIRST TIME I HEARD GOD

SPEAK TO ME.

NOT AUDIBLY, BUT HE WAS,

LIKE, DUDE, I'M WITH YOU

IN ALL OF THIS STUFF.

IN YOUR ADDICTIONS AND IN

JAIL AND REHAB, NO MATTER

WHERE YOU'RE AT, I'M ALONE

SIDE OF YOU.

EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKS, IT

DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT

THERE.

WE PUT ALL OF THESE

OBSTACLES THERE, WHETHER

IT IS SPECIFIC BELIEFS OR

WHATEVER, AND I THINK THAT

DOES A LOT OF DAMAGE TO

WHAT WE CAN REALLY DO

BECAUSE JESUS NEVER PUT

OBSTACLES IN FRONT OF

HIMSELF.

NOT FOR HIS DISCIPLES, NOT

FOR THE CHILDREN.

IT WAS, LIKE, DUDE, COME

TO ME AND FOLLOW ME.

YOU CAN FIGURE THE REST

OUT LATER.

IT WAS NEVER THIS WAKE UP

AND LOVE JESUS AND I'M

TOTALLY DIFFERENT KIND OF

THING.

IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY OF

QUESTIONING AND WRESTLING,

AND GOD HONORED IT.

THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT IT

IS THAT GOD HONORED THAT

QUESTIONING AND GOD

HONORED THAT WRESTLING.

AND I THINK MY FAITH IS

STRONGER BECAUSE OF IT AND

OUR RELATIONSHIP IS

STRONGER BECAUSE OF IT.

Gordon: MAYBE YOU'RE

LIKE JEFF AND YOU'RE

WRESTLING WITH LIFE.

AND YOU DON'T REALIZE YET

THAT YOU'RE WRESTLING WITH

GOD AND REALIZING THAT HE

IS WITH YOU NO MATTER

WHAT.

THAT YOU'RE HIS CHILD.

THAT HE LOVES YOU

INFINITELY.

CHRISTIANITY ISN'T A SET

OF RULES.

IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.

AND JESUS HAS DONE IT ALL.

HE HAS PAID ALL THE PRICE

SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM FOR

ALL ETERNITY.

HE HAS BROKEN THROUGH YOUR

SIN.

HE HAS BROKEN THROUGH

DEATH.

HE HAS BROKEN THROUGH IT

ALL.

BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU.

AND HE WANTS YOU TO

REALIZE THAT MOMENT BY

MOMENT.

FOR MANY OF YOU, YOU'RE

WONDERING WHY?

WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT?

WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF

LIFE?

WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR?

AND MAYBE LIKE JEFF, YOU

TOOK SOME WRONG DECISIONS

EARLY ON, WITHOUT EVEN

REALIZING WHAT YOU WERE

GETTING INTO.

SUDDENLY YOU WERE EXCEPT

AWAY WITH IT.

AND THEN YOU GOT TO A

POINT WHERE YOU COULDN'T

EVEN CONTROL IT ANYMORE.

AND ALL YOU LOOKED FORWARD

TO EVERY SINGLE DAY IS HOW

CAN I GET MORE?

HOW CAN I SATISFY THIS

COMPULSION?

WHAT CAN I DO TO FEED IT?

MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN

THAT BAD BUT YOU'RE

WONDERING, WHAT'S THIS

ABOUT?

YOU'RE WRESTLING WITH IT.

AND MAYBE LIKE JEFF YOU

HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS.

WHAT DOES A 2,000-YEAR-OLD

BOOK HAVE TO DO WITH ME?

I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE

THESE OTHER CHRISTIANS I

SEE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT.

WELL, I'VE GOT GOOD NEWS

FOR YOU.

JESUS CAME FOR YOU.

AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU

SEE AROUND YOU, ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO IS CALL OUT TO

HIM.

AND WHEN YOU DO, YOU'LL

HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.

IT'S THE BEGINNING OF IT.

HE IS JUST WAITING FOR YOU

TO TURN.

AND HERE IS A VERY SIMPLE

PRAYER FOR YOU: JESUS, IF

YOU'RE REAL, IF YOU'RE

THERE, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME,

COULD YOU SHOW ME?

COULD YOU SHOW UP FOR ME?

AND IF YOU PRAY THAT WITH

ALL OF YOUR HEART -- THIS

ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE YOU

JOKE AROUND, BUT IF YOU

PRAY IT WITH ALL OF YOUR

HEART AND YOU REALLY MEAN

IT, HE'LL SHOW UP.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE

PROMISES.

WHEN YOU SEEK ME WITH ALL

OF YOUR HEART, THEN YOU

WILL FIND ME.

IF YOU WANT THIS, IF YOU

WANT HIM IN YOUR LIFE, IT

IS NOT A SET OF RULES, BUT

IT IS THE AMAZING THING

THAT THE CREATOR OF THE

UNIVERSE, BY HIM AND

THROUGH HIM ALL THINGS

WERE MADE -- THAT CREATOR

WANTS TO KNOW YOU AND

WANTS YOU TO KNOW HIM.

AND HE'LL GUIDE YOU.

HE'LL DIRECT YOU.

HE'LL SHOW YOU THE WAY TO

GO.

IT'S NOT A SET OF RULES.

IT'S A WAY TO A WONDERFUL

ADVENTURE WITH HIM.

IF YOU WANT IT, ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO IS PRAY THAT

PRAYER.

IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THAT

PRAYER, WE'RE HERE FOR

YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK

UP THE PHONE AND CALL US:

1-800-700-7000.

AND JUST SAY, YES, I WANT

TO KNOW THIS JESUS.

I'VE HEARD HE CAN DO

THINGS.

I HEARD HE CAN CHANGE MY

HEART.

HE CAN CHANGE MY LIFE.

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK

UP THE PHONE.

WELL, YOU'VE HEARD JEFF'S

STORY, BUT ONLY HIS SIDE.

AFTER THE BREAK, JEFF AND

HIS FATHER JOIN US LIVE.

FIND OUT HOW JAMES BANK

USED PRAYER TO BRING HER

PRODIGAL HOME.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS

THIS.

DON'T GO AWAY.

Gordon: WELCOME BACK.

I'M JOINED BY JEFF BANKS,

AND YOU JUST SAW HIS

STORY.

AND ALSO HIS FATHER, JEFF

BANKS, THE PASTOR OF PEACE

CHURCH IN DURHAM, NORTH

CAROLINA, AND AUTHOR OF

"PRAYERS FOR PRODIGALS."

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

Gordon: JAMES, LET'S

START WITH YOU, AND YOU

PUT OUT THIS WONDERFUL

BOOK, "PRAYERS FOR

PRODIGALS," AND IT IS YOUR

OWN JOURNEY.

HOW LONG WAS YOUR JOURNEY?

JEFF WAS ADDICTED FOR

SEVEN YEARS, IN ONE FORM

OR ANOTHER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WENT

THROUGH AND DID EVERYTHING

THAT WE COULD.

AND YOU GET TO THE POINT

WHERE, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU

DO BUT PRAY?

Gordon: WHEN YOU DID

FIRST KNOW HE WAS

ADDICTED?

I THINK THAT REALLY

STRUCK HOME IN HIGH

SCHOOL, A LITTLE LATER ON

IN HIGH SCHOOL, WHEN

THINGS GOT REAL ROUGH, AND

HE GOT KICKED OUT OF ONE

SCHOOL AND THEN ANOTHER,

AND EVENTUALLY WE HAD TO

HOME-SCHOOL HIM.

THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY HE

WAS GOING TO GET THROUGH.

AT THAT POINT WE KNEW WE

HAD A PROBLEM.

Gordon: WHAT DID YOU

DO AT THAT POINT?

HOW DID YOU REACH OUT?

DID YOU TRY TO GET

EDUCATED ON ADDICTION?

WELL, WE DID.

WE HAD GONE THROUGH THE

DUKE INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT

REHAB, ACTUALLY A COUPLE

OF TIMES, THERE IN DURHAM,

WHERE WE WERE.

AND TRIED TO GET EDUCATED.

WE TRIED TO LEARN ALL WE

COULD.

AT THE SAME TIME, THERE

WERE TIMES WHERE I

THINK -- I DIDN'T DO THIS

KIND OF STUFF WHEN I WAS A

KID, SO I RESPONDED IN

ANGER.

I RESPONDED

LEGALISTICALLY, AND THAT

WASN'T THE BEST WAY --

Gordon: I ADVICE YOU

TO DO THIS --

EXACTLY.

Gordon: AND I IMAGINE

YOU HAD SELF-DOUBT ALONG

THE WAY, DID I DO

SOMETHING?

EXACTLY.

YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF AND

YOU THINK, WHERE DID I GO

WRONG?

WHAT DID I DO?

I REMEMBER TALKING WITH

JEFF ABOUT THAT ONE TIME.

AND HE SAID, DAD, IT

WASN'T WHAT YOU DID.

I MADE MY OWN CHOICES,

BASICALLY.

BUT, STILL, IT'S A BURDEN

TO CARRY.

AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING IS

THAT THAT'S WHERE GOD

MEETS US.

AND THAT IS CERTAINLY WHAT

HE DID FOR US.

Gordon: TELL US ABOUT

THE JOURNEY OF PRAYER.

I IMAGINE IN THE FIRST

YEARS OF THIS SEVEN-YEAR

JOURNEY IT WAS, LET'S

CLAIM THE PROMISE OF GOD.

LET'S HOLD ON TO THE

PROMISE.

LET'S DECLARE VICTORY.

RIGHT.

Gordon: AND THEN IT

WENT TO, THAT'S NOT

HAPPENING.

YOU'RE SO RIGHT.

THERE IS THIS BACK AND

FORTH.

YOU THINK THAT, OKAY, IT'S

GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND YOU LEARN NOT TO

DEPEND ON YOUR FEELINGS.

MY WIFE AND I USED TO HAVE

THIS SAYING THAT TODAY WAS

A GOOD DAY, WHEN WE WENT

THROUGH A DAY AND THERE

WASN'T ANY DRAMA WITH

JEFF, THE FOANL DOESN'T PHONE DOESN'T

RING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

NIGHT, THAT SORT OF THING.

Gordon: I THINK

THAT'S A STORY A LOT OF

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

WHEN YOU'RE LIVING WITH

ADDICTION, THERE IS ALWAYS

DRAMA.

WELL, THERE.

AND AT THIS POINT HE IS

LIVING IN ANOTHER CITY,

AND THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH

WE CAN DO.

BUT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO

STAY IN HIS LIFE BECAUSE

IF WE DON'T, THEN WHO IS

THERE?

SO WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THE

COMMUNICATION OPEN WITH

HIM.

Gordon: I THINK

THAT'S A LESSON A LOT OF

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT TOUGH

LOVE, THEY TALK ABOUT,

WELL, LET'S FORCE A

BOTTOM.

NOT REALIZING WITH

ADDICTION, BOTTOM CAN BE

DEATH.

AND THAT LOVE HAS TO BE

TOUGH ON US AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO LOVE HIM NO

MATTER WHAT.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE

TALK ABOUT TOUGH LOVE, IT

IS GO AWAY, KID, YOU

BOTHER ME.

Gordon: AND THAT'S

NOT LOVE.

AND THAT'S NOT LOVE.

Gordon: AT WHAT POINT

DID YOU KNOW YOU HAD

VICTORY?

WE REALLY KNEW WE HAD

VICTORY AFTER JEFF HAD

GONE THROUGH CHRISTIAN

RECOVERY HOUSE.

THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR

DAY, AND IT WAS

INTERESTING.

WE WENT TO GET JEFF A PAIR

OF SHOES.

HE WAS BACK VISITING US IN

DURHAM.

HE SAID, HERE IS SOMETHING

I REALLY WANT YOU TO

LISTEN TO.

AND HE PLUGS HIS PHONE

INTO THE RADIO INTO THE

CAR.

AND I THOUGHT, GREAT, HERE

IS ANOTHER SONG I'M GOING

TO HAVE TO THEOLOGICALLY

CRITIQUE.

IT TURNED OUT TO BE THIS

SERMON FROM A FORMER

HEROIN ADDICT ABOUT THE

DIFFERENCE JESUS HAD MADE

IN SETTING HIM FREE.

AND MY WIFE ARE -- JEFF IS

IN THE BACK SEAT, AND MY

WIFE AND I ARE SITTING IN

THE FRONT SEAT AND WE'RE

DOING OUR BEST TO FIGHT

BACK THE TEARS.

THAT DAY I REALIZED, WOW,

THIS WAS SOMETHING ONLY

GOD COULD DO.

I THINK SO OFTEN WE HAD

TRIED TO DO IT IN OUR OWN

STRENGTH, AND WE NEEDED TO

COME TO THAT PLACE OF JUST

BEING DESPERATE AND IN HIS

MERCY HE MET US AND GAVE

US WHAT WE NEEDED.

Gordon: THAT'S THE

KEY TO RECOVERY, THAT

SURRENDER: I CAN'T DO

THIS.

IT IS NOT ABOUT WILLPOWER.

IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM.

WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF

TALKING ABOUT YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: LET'S TALK TO

YOU.

TRUE.

Gordon: AND I THINK

PRODIGALS DON'T UNDERSTAND

WHAT THEY DO TO THE

FAMILY.

UH-HUH.

Gordon: WHEN DID IT

DAWN ON YOU WHAT WAS GOING

ON?

NOT UNTIL MUCH LATER.

NOT UNTIL -- I DIDN'T

REALIZE THE AFFECT OF MY

ACTIONS AND MY LIFE HAD

MADE UNTIL I HAD CLEANED

UP.

BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU'RE IN

IT, YOU'RE SO FOCUSED ON

KIND OF JUST SURVIVING AND

GET ARE YOUR NEXT FIX,

YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT

ANYBODY ELSE.

AND I NEVER MEANT TO

HURT -- I ALWAYS LOOKED AT

MY PARENTS' POSITION AS A

POSITION OF IGNORANCE.

LIKE THEY DON'T REALLY

KNOW HOW IT IS.

THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW

WHAT'S GOING ON.

THEY JUST THINK IT'S THAT

BAD.

THEY JUST THINK IT'S THIS

CRAZY LIFESTYLE.

AND I HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER

AND THEY DON'T REALIZE IT.

I ALWAYS LOOKED AT THEM AS

THIS IGNORANT PARTLY IN

THIS WHOLE THING.

AND NOW LOOKING BACK, I'M,

LIKE, MAN, I WAS LOST.

IT WASN'T UNTIL CLEANING

UP THAT I CAN LOOK BACK

AND SEE HOW IT AFFECTEDED

THEM.

I STILL DO THAT, WHERE

STILL, FIVE YEARS LATER --

AUALMOST FIVE YEARS LATER, I

SEE PLACES WHERE MY

ACTIONS HAD AN AFFECT ON

PEOPLE AND SOMETIMES I

DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IT.

Gordon: WHEN YOU WERE

USING, WERE YOU LIVING THE

DREAM OR THE LIE THAT THIS

WASN'T REALLY YOU, THAT

YOU COULD STOP?

BACK IN -- YEAH,

DEFINITELY.

I THOUGHT MY RECURRING

THING, EVEN WHEN I WAS

OLDER, 20, 21 -- I ALWAYS

THOUGHT I WOULD GROW OUT

OF IT ONE DAY, AND ONE DAY

I WOULDN'T WANT TO USE

ANYMORE.

AND I COULD KIND OF HAVE A

GOOD TIME NOW, AND LATER

ON I'LL JUST KIND OF FLOAT

ON OUT.

AND THAT OBVIOUSLY NEVER

HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T -- I

DID EVENTUALLY MAKE IT

OUT, BUT IT WAS NEVER THIS

KIND OF, WELL, YOU KNOW,

GUESS I'LL GO HOME NOW.

Gordon: IT ALWAYS

GETS WORSE.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: WELL, AT WHAT

POINT DID YOU FIGURE OUT

YOU WERE ACTUALLY LYING TO

YOURSELF?

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK WHENEVER I REALLY

REALIZED THE DEPTH OF MY

ADDICTION WAS I HAD

GOTTEN -- I HAD TAKEN MY

GIRLFRIEND AT THE TIME --

I HAD TAKEN HER CAR AND I

HAD TAKEN SOME MONEY FROM

HER AND I HAD GONE TO GET

MY FIX IN THE MORNING.

I USED IN THE CAR AND TOOK

OFF, NEEDLE STILL IN MY

ARM, AND I PASSED OUT AT

THE WHEEL AND I HIT A

POWER POLE.

I REMEMBER WAKING UP IN

THE HOSPITAL NOT KNOWING

WHAT HAPPENED, AND HAVING

THIS, LIKE, FEELING OF

DOOM, LIKE, OH, MY GOSH,

WHAT HAVE I DONE?

I REMEMBER THAT BEING THE

MOMENT WHERE I REALIZED

THE GRAVITY OF MY

SITUATION, AND THE AFFECT

THAT IT HAS HAD ON NOT

ONLY MYSELF BUT OTHER

PEOPLE.

Gordon: WHAT'S YOUR

DREAM NOW?

OH, MAN.

I DON'T KNOW.

I LOVE WHAT I DO NOW,

BEING ABLE TO -- I'VE

ALWAYS THOUGHT I WOULD BE

IN MINISTRY WHEN THE IT

COMES TO ADDICTION, BUT I

ENDED UP IN STUDENT

MINISTRY WITH HIGH

SCHOOLERS.

AND IT HAS BEEN SO AWESOME

TO REALIZE THAT NOW, LIKE,

FOR THE MOST PART IT IS

GETTING TO THEM BEFORE

THEY GO DOWN THAT PATH,

FOR MOST OF THEM.

AND BEING ABLE TO LOVE

THEM THERE.

AND IT IS KIND OF THIS

PROACTIVE THING INSTEAD OF

REACTIVE.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE

GOD HAS ME NOW.

I THINK IT IS SOMEWHERE

THAT I'M GOING TO BE FOR A

WHILE, WITH STUDENTS.

Gordon: AND THAT

WOULD BE A GOOD THING?

OH, YEAH.

I LOVE IT.

Gordon: MOLD THEM AND

SHAPE THEM?

YEAH.

AND PEOPLE OFTEN LOOK AT

THE YOUTH PASTOR AND

THINK, SOME DAY YOU'LL BE

A REAL PASTOR --

Gordon: YOU'RE A REAL

PASTOR NOW.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE

REAL BATTLES ARE.

Gordon: RIGHT WHERE

THEY'RE GETTING READY TO

LEAVE HOME, AND THEY THINK

SUDDENLY, WELL, I'M GOING

TO BE FREE OR WHATEVER,

AND THAT'S THE TIME TO

REALLY CEMENT IN THAT, NO,

YOU NEED GOD IN YOUR LIFE.

SO THAT HAS BEEN AN

HONOR TO BE ABLE TO DO

THAT.

YOU KNOW, I NEVER KNOW

WHAT GOD HAS FOR ME NEXT.

Gordon: THE NEXT

STEP.

YEAH.

Gordon: MAKING

DISCIPLES, THAT'S A GOOD

THING.

ALL RIGHT, THE BOOK IS

CALLED "PRAYERS FOR

PRODIGALS."

AND IF YOU HAVE A PRODIGAL

THAT YOU'RE PRAYING FOR,

ALL HAVE YOU TO DO IS GET

A COPY OF THIS BOOK.

IT'S CALLED "PRAYERS FOR

PRODIGALS," AND IT'S

AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS

OR SOLD OR ON AMZON.

IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MORE

FROM JEFF AND JAMES, CHECK

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JERUSALEM," WAS RECEIVED

IN THE CITY WHERE THE

STORY TOOK PLACE.

STAY WITH US.

Gordon: LAST WEEK I

ATTENDED THE "IN OUR

HANDS" PREMIERE IN

JERUSALEM.

I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

ISRAELIS WOULD RECEIVE THE

FILM.

CBN MIDDLE EAST BUREAU

CHIEF CHRIS MITCHELL

BRINGS US THEIR REACTION.

Chris: THE FILM MARKS

50 YEARS SINCE ISRAEL'S

VICTORY IN THE 1967

SIX-DAY WAR.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

GUIDING VERSES FOR ME FOR

THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS

PSALM 126: "THEN THEY SAID

AMONG THE NATIONS, THE

LORD HAS DONE GREAT THINGS

FOR THEM."

IT'S WITH GREAT JOY I SAY

TO YOU, THE LORD HAS DONE

GREAT THINGS FOR YOU.

[APPLAUSE]

Chris: THE FILM

FOLLOWS THE LIFE OF

SEVERAL PARATROOPERS AS

THEY FOUGHT CRITICAL

BATTLES TO REUNITE THE

CITY UNDER JEWISH

SOVEREIGNTY FOR THE FIRST

TIME IN 2,000 YEARS.

THEY ATTENDED THE EVENT

AND HONORED THE FILM'S

WRITER AND DIRECTOR ERIN

ZIMBABWE.

>ZIMMERMAN.

I WANT TO TELL TO ALL

OF YOU, SHE DOES A

WONDERFUL WORK.

VERY EXCITING.

IT BROUGHT ME BACK TO THE

MOMENT WHEN WE BROKE

THROUGH THE LION'S GATE.

MY BIGGEST FEAR WAS

SOMEBODY SAYING, THAT

WASN'T REALLY RIGHT OR IT

DIDN'T REALLY HAPPEN LIKE

THAT.

SO TO GET THE SEAL OF

APPROVAL FROM ALL FOUR OF

OUR PARATROOPERS WHO WERE

HERE TONIGHT WAS AN

AMAZING BLESSING FOR ME.

Chris: THE FILM WAS A

BIG HIT IN THE U.S., BUT

HOW DID IT PLAY IN ISRAEL?

AS AN ISRAELI, I MUST

SAY I HAVE NOT SEEN IN A

VERY LONG TIME A TRUE

EXPRESSION OF WHAT REALLY

HAPPENED HERE.

IT WAS REALLY AMAZING.

IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE

THE OLD, ORIGINAL FOOTAGE.

IT GAVE YOU A REAL

SENSE OF HOW THE WAR WAS.

WHAT A TESTIMONY TO

ISRAEL.

AND WHAT I DIDN'T

EXPECT WAS THE FEELING

THAT THE SOLDIERS HAVE

AFTER LOSING THEIR

COMRADES, AND THE MOURNING

THEY WENT THROUGH.

Chris: THE ISRAELI

ACTRESSES FELT HONORED TO

BE PART OF THE FILM.

WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL,

WONDERFUL.

IT WAS VERY, VERY PROJECT

ISRAEL.

PRO-ISRAEL.

IT WAS AMAZING TO FEEL

A PART OF IT.

Chris: SOME ISRAELIS

WERE SURPRISED THAT

CHRISTIANS WOULD MAKE SUCH

A FILM TO HONOR ISRAEL.

IT IS HEART-WARMING TO

HAVE FRIENDS WHO CARE.

YES, I JUST LEARNED ABOUT

IT.

IT WAS VERY SURPRISING,

A GOOD SURPRISE.

Chris: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS, AT THE

CINEMATECH IN JERUSALEM.

Gordon: THE FILM IS

NOW OUT ON D.V.D.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET A

COPY OF "IN OUR HANDS: THE

BATTLE FOR JERUSALEM," ALL

YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

1-800-700-7000.

FOR A GIFT OF $15 OR MORE,

WE'LL SEND YOU THE D.V.D.

AND IT HAS AN EXTRA

SPECIAL ON "OPERATION

BLESSING," AND HOW THE

ISRAELI AIR FORCE GAINED

AIR DOM MAN DOMINANCE DURING THE

SIX-DAY WAR.

THAT'S A SPECIAL D.V.D.

BONUS ON THIS.

IT WAS A THRILL TO BE IN

JERUSALEM FOR THE PREMIERE

THERE AND TO HAVE THE

PARATROOPERS WHO FOUGHT

THE BATTLES STAND UP AND

CHEER AND APPLAUD AND GIVE

A STANDING OVATION TO THE

FILM.

IT SHOWS THE ACCURACY OF

IT, THE HISTORY OF IT, AND

THE INSPIRATION OF IT.

SO IF YOU WANT IT, GIVE US

A CALL: 1-800-700-7000.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS

WORD FROM JOHN: "I HAVE NO

GREATER JOY THAN TO HEAR

THAT MY CHILDREN ARE

WALKING IN THE TRUTH."

MAY YOUR CHILDREN BE

WALKING IN THE TRUTH

TODAY.

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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