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The 700 Club - June 16, 2017

She’s the former South Carolina governor who’s been labeled a hero on the international stage. David Brody speaks with U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. Plus, Bishop Harry Jackson shares how the church can bridge the racial divide. Read Transcript


Gordon: TODAY, THE

SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR

WHO HAS BEEN LABELLED A

HERO ON THE INTERNATIONAL

STAGE.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T

HAVE OUR BACK, WE'RE

TAKING NAMES.

Gordon: DAVID BRODY

SPEAKS WITH U.N.

AMBASSADOR NIKKI HALEY.

YOU HAVE TO STRENGTHEN

YOUR FAITH.

YOU HAVE TO.

Gordon: PLUS, BISHOP

HARRY JACKSON SHARES HOW

THE CHURCH CAN BRIDGE THE

RACIAL DIVIDE.

THEN A METH COOK ON THE

ROAD TO RUIN.

I ALWAYS KNEW IF I

DIED, I WAS GOING TO HELL.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

Gordon: WELL, WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB."

A RARE SIGN OF UNITY IN

OUR NATION'S CAPITAL.

LAST NIGHT REPUBLICANS AND

DEMOCRATS PLAYED A

BASEBALL GAME.

Terry: MORE THAN

25,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO

THE GAME.

THEY SAW THE DEMOCRATS

WALK AWAY WITH A VICTORY,

AND MEMBERS OF BOTH

PARTIES PUT THE BITTERNESS

OF POLITICS ASIDE.

ERIC GONZALES HAS MORE.

Reporter: IT'S AN

ANNUAL CHARITY BASEBALL

GAME, A TRADITION DATING

BACK TO 1909.

BUT THIS YEAR, AFTER THE

ALEXANDRIA SHOOTING, WHICH

LEFT HOUSE MAJORITY

WHOOPEE CONGRESSMAN STEVE

SCALISE IN CRITICAL

CONDITION AND THREE OTHERS

HURT, PLAYING MEANT MORE

THAN CHARITY.

IT WAS FOR HEALING.

FIRST, DEMOCRATS AND

REPUBLICANS GATHERED

AROUND SECOND BASE TO PRAY

AT THE SPOT WHERE SCALISE

WAS SHOT.

THEN A MESSAGE FROM

PRESIDENT TRUMP.

President Trump: BY

PLAYING TONIGHT, YOU ARE

SHOWING THE WORLD THAT WE

WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY

THREATS, ACTS OF VIOLENCE,

OR ASSAULTS ON OUR

DEMOCRACY.

THE GAME WILL GO ON.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

SEND OUR THOUGHTS, LOVE,

AND PRAYERS TO CONGRESSMAN

STEVE SCALISE AND HIS

ENTIRE FAMILY.

Reporter: IN THE

FIRST PITCH THROWN WAS BY

INJURED CAPITOL POLICE

OFFICER DAVID BAILEY, ONE

OF THE TWO OFFICERS WHO

HAVE BEEN CREDITED WITH

SAVING HIS LIFE AND

POTENTIALLY MANY OTHERS.

WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE

NATIONALS BALLPARK, YOU

SEE AN INCREASED POLICE

PRESENCE, BOTH INSIDE AND

OUTSIDE THE BALLPARK.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF

POLICE OFFICERS WALKING

AROUND JUST TO MAKE SURE

EVERYONE IS SAFE.

Reporter: MANY WANTED

TO SHOW UP TO THE GAME TO

SUPPORT AMERICA.

WE'VE NEVER BEEN TO A

CONGRESSIONAL BASEBALL

GAME BEFORE.

WE THINK IT IS AN HISTORIC

OCCASION AND WE WANT TO

SHOW OUR SUPPORT,

ESPECIALLY FOR CONGRESSMAN

SCALISE, BUT FOR

EVERYBODY.

I'M TIRED OF JUST

SEEING ALL OF THE DIVISION

AND EVERYTHING.

AND VIOLENCE IS NOT THE

WAY TO HANDLE THE

SITUATION.

Reporter: THE F.B.I.

IS STILL ASKING NORTHERN

VIRGINIANS FOR HELP IN

TRYING TO DETERMINE A

MOTIVE BEHIND THE ATTACK.

THEY WANT TO SPEAK WITH

ANYONE WHO HAD CONTACT

WITH 66-YEAR-OLD JAMES

HODGKINSON, WHO AGENTS SAY

WAS LIVING OUT OF HIS

WHITE CARGO VAN IN THE

ALEXANDRIA AREA SINCE

MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

AS FOR CONGRESSMAN

SCALISE, DOCTORS SAY THE

BULLET HIT HIM IN THE HIT

AND TRAVELLED THROUGH HIS

INTERNAL ORGANS.

HOSPITAL STAFF TELL CBN

NEWS HE WILL LIKELY

UNDERGO MORE SURGERIES.

MEANWHILE, THE OTHER

VICTIMS, INCLUDING CAPITOL

POLICE OFFICER CRYSTAL

GRINER, ARE EXPECTED TO

RECOVER.

ON CAPITOL HILL,

WEDNESDAY'S SHOOTING

JOLTED MANY LAWMAKERS,

LEAVING THEM FEELING

VULNERABLE.

SOME SAY IT BROUGHT BACK

PAINFUL MEMORIES OF THE

SHOOTING SIX YEARS AGO

INVOLVING FORMER

REPRESENTATIVE GABRIELLE

GIFFORDS.

CBN SPOKE WITH SEVERAL

LAWMAKERS WHO SAY IT IS A

FINE LINE TO BE AVAILABLE

TO CONSTITUENTS AND STILL

BE SAFE.

MANY SAY THEY DON'T NEED

SEXTRA SECURITY.

I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO

HEAR FROM PEOPLE.

WHETHER THEY AGREE OR

DISAGREE.

I LIKE THE ABILITY TO

EXPLAIN WHY I FEEL THE WAY

I DO.

Reporter: THE REAL

WINNERS?

THE CHARITIES OF THE GAME,

WHICH INCLUDED THE CAPITOL

POLICE MEMORIAL FUND.

ERIC GONZALES, CBN NEWS,

WASHINGTON.

Gordon: IT'S

WONDERFUL TO SEE UNITY IN

THE NATION'S CAPITAL, AND

LET'S HOPE THAT CONTINUES.

THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL

THING.

> THE CHARITIES RECEIVED

A MILLION DOLLARS LAST

NIGHT, AND SO THAT'S

WONDERFUL NEWS FOR ALL OF

THEM.

AND I'M GLAD THAT THE

CAPITOL POLICE ARE PART OF

THAT.

> IN OTHER GOOD NEWS,

THE RUSSIAN MILITARY HAS

CLAIMED IT HAS KILLED A

TOP LEADER OF ISIS.

EFREM GRAHAM HAS MORE

ABOUT THAT FROM OUR CBN

NEWSROOM.

EFREM?

Efrem: RUSSIA CLAIMS

A RECENT AIRSTRIKE WIPED

OUT THE LEADER OF THE

LEADER OF THE ISLAMIC

STATE CALIPHATE, BUT

RUSSIA'S FOREIGN MINISTER

CAUTIONS: EVEN IF IT IS

TRUE, IT DOES NOT MEAN THE

END OF ISIS.

WE'VE HEARD RUMORS BEFORE

ABOUT THE ISIS LEADER'S

DEATH.

Charlene: THE RUSSIAN

DEFENSE MINISTRY BELIEVES

ABU OMAR al-BAGHDADI WAS

KILLED IN LATE MAY.

IN A STATEMENT, RUSSIA

CLAIMS THE AIRSTRIKE WAS

CARRIED OUT DURING A

MEETING OF ISIS LEADERS

OUTSIDE THE GROUP'S

CAPITAL OF RAQQA IN SYRIA.

THE REPORT OF

AL-BAGHDADI'S POSSIBLE

DEATH COMES AS ISIS

SUFFERS MAJOR SETBACKS.

U.S. AND COALITION FORCES

HAVE BEEN RAMPING UP THE

PRESSURE IN THEIR BATTLE

AGAINST ISIS IN SYRIA.

SECRETARY OF DEFENSE JAMES

MATTIS SOLD CBN NEWS THAT

HIS ORDER FROM PRESIDENT

TRUMP IS TO ELIMINATE THE

ISLAMIC TERROR GROUP ONCE

AND FOR ALL.

WE HAVE ALREADY SHIFTED

FROM ATTRITION TACTICS,

WHERE WE SHELF THEM FROM

ONE POSITION TO ANOTHER IN

IRAQ AND SYRIA, TO

ANNIHILATION TACTICS,

WHERE WE SURROUND THEM.

Charlene: RUSSIA'S

DEFENSE MINISTRY SAYS

THEIR AIR RAID CAME AS

ISIS LEADERS WERE PLOTTING

THEIR ESCAPE FROM RAQQA AS

THE PRESSURE WAS MOUNTING.

THEY SAY THE ATTACK KILLED

ABOUT 30 MID-LEVEL ISIS

LEADERS AND ABOUT 300

FIGHTERS.

MEANWHILE A SPOKESMAN FOR

THE U.S.-LED ANTI-STATE

COALITION SAYS HE CANNOT

CONFIRM REPORTS THAT

AL-BAGHDADI HAS BEEN

KILLED.

CHARLENE AARON, CBN NEWS.

Efrem: PRESIDENT

TRUMP IS LOOKING TO MAKE

GOOD ON HIS CAMPAIGN

PROMISE WHEN IT COMES TO

CUBA.

WHILE VISITING MIAMI

TODAY, HE IS ANNOUNCING

CHANGES TO THE DEAL THAT

PRESIDENT OBAMA MADE WITH

CUBA.

THE PRESIDENT'S GOAL IS TO

STOP CASH FROM FLOWING TO

THE SECURITY SERVICES.

THE NEW POLICY WOULD ALLOW

U.S. AIRLINES AND

CRUISESHIPS TO CONTINUE

SERVICING THE ISLAND.

> THE UNITED METHODIST

CHURCH IS RAISING SOME

EYEBROWS AFTER POINTING

ITS FIRST NON-GENDER

BINARY BEACON.

HE LATER BECAME

TRANSGENDER.

THOSE YEARS WERE FILLED

WITH UNCERTAINTY AND A

CRISIS OF BELIEF.

HE NOW DOES NOT IDENTIFY

WITH EITHER GENDER AND

DOES NOT LIKE THE

PRONOUNCE HE AND SHE.

INSTEAD, HE PREFERS TO BE

PREFERRED TO AS THEY.

> THIS WEEKEND DADS WILL

OPEN CARDS, GIFTS, AND

MAYBE EVEN BE TREATED TO

DINNER FOR FATHER'S DAY.

JOHN JESSUP INTRODUCES US

TO ONE SON WHO IS HONORING

HIS FATHER 365 DAYS A

YEAR.

Reporter: JONATHAN

HADEN WEARS MANY HATS:

TEACHER, SON, AND NOW

CARE-GIVER.

THESE ARE THE PROJECTS

THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE

OF.

IT IS HARD TO SEE A

MAN, ESPECIALLY A MAN OF

HIS STATURE, TO SEE HIM

LIKE THIS.

Reporter: JONATHAN

GREW UP IN THIS

WASHINGTON, D.C.

NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL A FEW

YEARS AGO, WHEN HE BOUGHT

HIS OWN HOME.

HE HAD NO IDEA A FEW YEARS

LATER HE WOULD BE BACK TO

TAKE CARE OF HIS AGING MOM

AND DAD, WHO HAS DEMENTIA.

JON THOJONATHAN IS ALSO PART OF A

TREND AS NEARLY 45% OF

TODAY'S CARE-GIVERS IN

AMERICA ARE MEN.

20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS HALF

THAT.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT

THE TOUGHEST GUY ON EARTH:

HE DOES THE WORK OF TWO

JOBS.

Reporter: JONATHAN

ADMITS IT IS A CHALLENGE,

NOT ONLY DEALING WITH HIS

FATHER'S MEMORY LOS LOSS, BUT

SOMETIMES HIS COMBATIVE

PERSONALITY.

MY FATHER HAS SAID SOME

THINGS THAT HAVE HURT ME

TO THE CORE AND LEFT ME

CRYING.

Reporter: ALTHOUGH IT

HELPS HIM LEARN ABOUT

PATIENCE AND FORGIVENESS.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE

PATIENT WITH THE PERSON

AND RECOGNIZE THEY CANNOT

CONTROL WHAT IT IS THAT

THEY'RE DOING AND IT IS

NOT THEIR FAULT.

Reporter: HE CREDITS

HIS FAITH, FRIENDS, AND

THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY

FROM A SUPPORT GROUP FOR

CARE-GIVERS, SOMETHING A

LOT OF MEN DON'T HAVE.

MEN TEND TO KIND OF

SUCK IT UP, IF YOU WILL,

AND TAKE IT IN STRIDE.

NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR THE

HELP THEY NEED.

THAT POSSESS SOME

POTENTIAL HEALTH

CHALLENGES,.

THIS LOOKS LIKE THIS

MAY BE YOU.

IS THAT YOU?

THAT IS ME.

AND WHO IS THAT LOVELY

LADY NEXT TO YOU?

THAT'S JACKIE.

Reporter: JONATHAN'S

FATHER SAYS HE IS NOT

PERFECT, BUT HE IS

GRATEFUL FOR HIS SON

WILLING TO STEP UP AND

LEND A HELPING HAND.

HE MAKES A TREMENDOUS

DIFFERENCE.

Reporter: THOUGH IT

IS AN UNEXPECTED ROLE, IT

IS ONE HE SAYS HE PROUDLY

ACCEPTS.

THERE IS NOTHING

FEMININE OR LESS MASCULINE

ABOUT BEING A CARETAKER OR

A NURSE -- WHATEVER YOU

WANT TO CALL IT.

YOU HAVE TO BECAUSE

THEY'RE YOUR PARENTS.

Efrem: HONORING THY

MOTHER AND FATHER.

GORDON, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY

TO YOU.

Gordon: AND HAPPY

FATHER'S DAY TO YOU AND

ALL OF THE FATHERS OUT

THERE.

I HOPE YOU GET A WONDERFUL

DAY OF REST.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP, SHE

IS AMERICA'S NEW U.N.

AMBASSADOR, AND SHE IS

STANDING UP FOR HUMAN

RIGHTS AROUND THE WORLD.

WHETHER IT IS RELIGIOUS

PERSECUTION OR STARTING TO

SEE ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND IT IS JUST HARD.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,

I NEED TO LET GOD DO.

AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK

AT IT.

Terry: STAY TUNED FOR

OUR EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

WITH NIKKI HALEY, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Gordon: WELL,

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS A

REPUTATION FOR BEING TOUGH

AND BOLD.

SO IT IS NO SURPRISE HE

CHOSE NIKKI HALEY AS U.S.

AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED

NATIONS.

AS CBN'S DAVID BRODY

REPORTS, THE FORMER

GOVERNOR HAS BEEN SHAKING

UP THE U.N. WHILE STANDING

FIRMING FOR ISRAEL.

David: DON'T LET THE

SOUTHERN ACCENT FOOL YOU.

FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA

GOVERNOR NIKKI HALEY MEANS

BUSINESS IN HER NEW ROLE

AT THE UNITED NATIONS.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T

HAVE OUR BACK, WE'RE

TAKING NAMES.

David: AS U.S.

AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.,

HALEY HAS BEGUN TO SHAKE

THINGS UP AT THIS

INTERNATIONAL BODY, WHICH

HAS RECEIVED PLENTY OF

CRITICISM FROM ITS HOST

COUNTRY.

THAT'S WHERE WE BEGAN OUR

ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATION IN

NEW YORK.

I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO

MAKE HOW THIS COMMUNITY

WAS GOING TO SEE THE

UNITED STATES.

I THOUGHT IT WAS MY JOB TO

GO AND START POSITIONING

THAT.

AND IT WAS THAT THE UNITED

STATES IS LEADING AGAIN,

AND THAT THEY WERE GOING

TO SEE TRUE LEADERSHIP,

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY

WERE GOING TO KNOW WHAT

THE U.S. WAS FOR AND WHAT

THE U.S. WAS AGAINST, AND

THERE WOULD BE NO GREY

AREA.

> THE UNITED STATES IS

DETERMINED TO STAND UP TO

THE U.N.'S ANTI-ISRAEL

BIAS.

David: LONG GONE OR

THE DAYS WHEN PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S U.N. AMBASSADOR

OBTAINEABSTAINED FROM A VOTE THAT

LABELLED VIOLATORS AGAINST

INTERNATIONAL LAW.

IT HAS BEEN AN ABUSE.

I WAS FLOORED WHEN I GOT

HERE AT HOW BIAS THEY WERE

AGAINST ISRAEL, ON THE

SMALLEST THINGS TO THE

BIGGEST THINGS.

IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THE

U.N. COMMUNITY JUST

BULLIED ISRAEL.

David: HER ACTION

LED TO A HERO'S WELCOME IN

ISRAEL THIS MONTH.

YOU'VE BEEN STANDING UP

FOR ISRAEL AND STANDING UP

FOR THE TRUTH, WHICH IS

STANDING UP FOR AMERICA.

David: HALEY FEELS

DEFENDING ISRAEL IS A

MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO

WHAT IS RIGHT.

SHE RECALLS SITTING

THROUGH MEETINGS WHERE

COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY WENT

AFTER THE JEWISH STATE.

I GOT MAD.

IT WAS JUST UNACCEPTABLE.

WHAT I DID WAS I JUST

CALLED THEM OUT.

I SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE,

IN TIMES WHEN WE'VE GOT

ISSUES WITH NORTH KOREA

AND SYRIA AND WE'RE

DEALING WITH RUSSIA AND

CHINA, YOU'RE GOING TO SIT

THERE AND SPEND EVERY

SINGLE MONTH, LIKE YOU

HAVE FOR THE LAST 10

YEARS, ON AN ISRAEL

BASHING SESSION.

IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND.

David: HER HIT LIST

IS LONG.

THE U.S. IS CONSIDERING

PULLING OUT OF THE U.N.'S

QUESTIONABLE HUMAN RIGHTS

COUNCIL, CONSIDERING THAT

COUNTRIES INVOLVED IN IT

ALSO COMMIT ABUSES.

THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE

HAVE BEEN ROBBED OF THEIR

HUMAN RIGHTS.

AND YET NOT ONCE HAS THE

HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL SEEN

FIT TO CONDEMN VENEZUELA.

David: AND RUSSIA

DOESN'T GET A PASS,

ESPECIALLY OVER ITS

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

SYRIAN GOVERNMENT.

IF RUSSIA HAS THE

INFLUENCE IN SYRIA THAT IT

CLAIMS TO HAVE, WE NEED TO

SEE THEM USE IT.

WE NEED TO SEE THEM PUT AN

END TO THESE HORRIFIC

ACTS.

HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN

HAVE TO DIE BEFORE RUSSIA

CARES?

David: SO HOW DO

HALEY THINK THE U.S.

SHOULD DEAL WITH RUSSIA?

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON

THE ISSUE.

I THINK THAT WHAT YOU

SHOULD ASSUME, WE SHOULD

ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR THE

UNITED STATES FIRST AND DO

EVERYTHING WE CAN TO

SECURE AND PROTECT

AMERICAN CITIZENS.

HAVING SAID THAT, RUSSIA

HAS NOT BEEN VERY FRIENDLY

WITH US ON CERTAIN THINGS.

WE'VE DISAGREED ON SYRIA.

WE'VE DISAGREED ON

UKRAINE.

AND WE'VE DISAGREED ON

CERTAIN OTHER RESOLUTIONS

AND ISSUES.

BUT WE DO AGREE ON ISIS

AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO

COUNTER ISIS.

David: COUNTERING

NORTH KOREA IS ANOTHER

CHALLENGE, POSSIBLY THE

BIGGEST.

WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO

BE CONCERNED ABOUT NORTH

KOREA.

THIS IS NOT SMALL POTATOES

WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE

HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

YOU'VE GOT A LEADER WHO IS

UNBELIEVABLY PARANOID

ABOUT BEING OVERTHROWN,

ABOUT BEING ASSASSINATED,

ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE INTO

HIS COUNTRY.

AND THE TRUTH IS, THE U.S.

IS NOT PUSHING FOR A

REGIME CHANGE.

WE'RE NOT PUSHING FOR WAR.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

SO WE'RE TELLING HIM,

DON'T GIVE US A REASON TO

HAVE TO DO THAT.

David: ALL OF THIS

REQUIRES FAITH, AND NOT

ONE BASED ON ACTIONS OF

OTHERS.

EVERY SINCE I WAS

LITTLE, I ALWAYS KNEW I

WANTED A DEEP, STRONG

FAITH.

I ALWAYS FELT I HAD A

STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH

GOD AND COULD TALK TO GOD

DURING THE DAY, AND ALL OF

THOSE THINGS THAT BRING

YOU PEACE.

David: RAISED IN THE

SIKH FAITH OF HER FAMILY,

SHE BECAME A CHRISTIAN AS

THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS

SPOKE TO HER.

THAT STAGE CERTAINLY GOT

TESTED AT GOVERNOR AFTER

MULTIPLE TRAGEDIES IN

SOUTH CAROLINA.

FOR ME IT WAS HARD

REALIZING I COULDN'T

PROTECT EVERYONE.

AND WHEN THAT SADNESS AND

THAT TRAUMA KICKS IN, YOU

HAVE TO STRENGTHEN YOUR

FAITH.

YOU HAVE TO.

AND SO I THINK THAT REALLY

FORCED ME TO HAVE TO SAY,

ALL RIGHT, GOD, YOU'VE GOT

TO TAKE THIS.

I CAN'T DO IT.

David: AND SHE

REALIZES SHE HAS TO LET

JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL HERE

AT THE U.N., TOO.

I FEEL LIKE NOW THAT

WE'RE IN NEW YORK, YOU SEE

A LOT MORE PAIN.

WHETHER IT IS RELIGIOUS

PERSECUTION, WHETHER YOU

SEE CHEMICAL WEAPONS USAGE

OR CREMATORIUMS AND THINGS

LIKE THAT -- WE'RE

STARTING TO SEE ALL OF

THOSE THINGS AND IT IS

JUST HARD.

AND YOU JUST HAVE TO GO

BACK TO YOUR FAITH.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE

DAY, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT

IS I HAVE TO BE THE

STRONGEST I CAN BE.

I HAVE TO DO IT WITH

PASSION.

I HAVE TO DO IT WITH

CONVICTION.

I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO

MYSELF.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,

I NEED TO LET GOD DO.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT

IT.

David: SHE IS

LEAVING IT ALL IN GOD'S

HANDS, AND CLEARLY GOD IS

USING NIKKI HALEY FOR SUCH

A TIME AS THIS.

DAVID BRODY, CBN NEWS, NEW

YORK.

Gordon: WHAT A

WONDERFUL BREATH OF FRESH

AIR INTO THE U.N.

AND ALSO INTO OUR FOREIGN

POLICY, TO SAY, HERE IS

WHERE WE STAND.

AND THERE ARE NO GREY

AREAS. YOU'RE GROWING TO

KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE

STAND, WHY WE STAND FOR

IT, AND LET'S UPHOLD THE

PRINCIPLES HERE.

AND LET'S CALL PEOPLE INTO

ACCOUNT.

WHAT A WONDERFUL THING.

AND SO APPLAUSE IS NEEDED.

THIS IS INCREDIBLE.

Terry: WHAT COMMON

SENSE IN SO MANY DECISIONS

THAT SHE MAKES, BUT WHAT

STRENGTH WITH WHICH SHE

MAKES THEM.

THAT REALLY MAKES A

STATEMENT, I THINK.

Gordon: IT IS SORT OF

REASSERTING WHAT I THINK

HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HALLMARK

OF AMERICA, THAT WE HOLD

OURSELVES AND THE WORLD TO

A MORAL STANDARD.

THAT HAS BEEN CRITIQUED

THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND YOU GET INTO, I THINK,

VERY MERKY AREAS WHEN YOU

WALK AWAY FROM THAT.

WE'RE HERE AS A FORCE OF

GOOD.

AND IF YOU DEPART FROM

THAT AND START GE GETTING

INTO ARRANGEMENTS WHERE

WHAT IS OUR INTEREST AND

WHAT IS GOING ON, IT JUST

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT

IS CONFUSING TO EVERYONE.

WHAT'S THE MOTIVATION

HERE?

AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE

MOTIVATION WE WANT TO

ESTABLISH RIGHTEOUSNESS,

AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND

RIGHTEOUSNESS EXALTS A

NATION.

Terry: UP NEXT, THE

PASTOR'S SON BREAKS BAD

AND STARTS RUNNING METH

LABS.

THERE WAS A FEELING OF

DEATH ALL AROUND ME ALL

THE TIME, WHETHER I WAS

HIGH OR NOT.

Terry: WATCH WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN HIS OWN

FATHER HAD TO THROW HIM IN

JAIL.

THAT'S NEXT.

Terry: RON PERRIMAN

WAS A WANTED MAN.

FOR 30 YEARS HE WAS HOOKED

ON METH AND SOLD IT AS HIS

FULL-TIME JOB.

AT THE SAME TIME, RON KNEW

THE F.B.I. WANTED TO THROW

HIM IN PRISON FOR HIS

CRIMES.

AND THE GRIM REAPER WANTED

TO DRAG HIM DOWN TO THE

GRAVE.

Reporter: RON

PERRIMAN KNEW WHERE HIS

LIFE AS A DRUG DEALER AND

ADDICT WAS LEADING.

HE WAS JUST TOO HIGH TO

CARE.

I KNEW I WAS NOT DOING

THE RIGHT THING.

I ALWAYS KNEW IF I DIED, I

WAS GOING TO HELL.

Reporter: HE KNEW

BECAUSE AS A PASTOR'S SON,

HE WAS HELD TO A STRICT

STANDARD OF RIGHT AND

WRONG.

I WAS REQUIRED TO DO

CERTAIN THINGS AS A

PREACHER'S KID.

I HAD TO ACT A CERTAIN

WAY.

I GUESS I KIND OF SORT OF

RESINTERESENTED THAT A LITTLE

WAY.

I WANTED TO FIT IN WITH

THE OLDER KIDS AND BE ABLE

TO DO WHAT THEY WERE

DOING.

AND IT FELT GOOD, GETTING

DRUNK AND HIGH.

IF IT WASN'T FUN, NOBODY

WOULD WANT TO DO IT.

Reporter: BY HIGH

SCHOOL HE WAS ALSO USING

DRUGS, SKIPPING SCHOOL,

AND WAS ARRESTED THREE

TIMES FOR D.U.I.s.

IT WAS A VERY TENSE

SITUATION AT HOME.

I WAS SO REBELLIOUS, I

DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR

ANYTHING THEY HAD TO SAY.

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO

ANYTHING THEY WANTED ME TO

DO.

I JUST WANTED TO DO WHAT I

WANTED TO DO.

Reporter: RON DROPPED

OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, AND

WORKED VARIOUS JOBS, AND

AT 19 WAS INTRODUCED TO

METHAMPHETAMINE.

EVEN THOUGH I KNEW WHAT

I SHOULD BE DOING

SPIRITUALLY, THE WAY MY

PARENTS RAISED ME, I JUST

LET THE METH CONTROL MY

THINKING AND CONTROL MY

LIFE.

SO I STARTED SELLING METH,

THAT WAY I COULD DO WHAT I

WANTED WHEN I WANTED, AND

AT THE SAME TIME MAKE SOME

PRETTY GOOD MONEY.

I DID VERY QUICKLY START

GETTING A SENSE OF POWER.

IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE

PEOPLE DID NEED ME.

THEY NEEDED ME FOR THEIR

DRUGS.

Reporter: SEVERAL

YEARS LATER, RON WAS

INDICTED BY THE F.B.I. FOR

DRUG TRAFFICKING.

BY THEN, RON DIDN'T CARE

HOW HIS CHOICES WERE

AFFECTING HIMSELF OR THOSE

WHO LOVED HIM.

I WOULD SAY IT WAS VERY

DIFFICULT TO COPE WITH.

AND EVEN THOUGH YOU SPEND

TIME IN PRAYER AND TRUST

IN THE LORD TO BRING HIM

BACK IN HIS TIMING, RONNIE

SORT OF, IN MY OPINION,

WENT FROM BAD TO WORSE.

I WAS WORKING PART-TIME

WITH THE SHERIFF'S

DEPARTMENT DURING THE TIME

THAT HE WAS BEING

IMPRISONED.

AND I WAS THE ONE THAT HAD

TO TAKE HIM INTO JAIL AND

SIGN HIM IN.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE

HARDEST THINGS THAT I'VE

EVER DONE.

I WAS JUST CONCERNED

ABOUT DOING WHAT I WANTED

TO DO.

Reporter: HE WAS

RELEASED AFTER THREE AND A

HALF YEARS.

NOT ONLY DID HE GO BACK TO

SELLING AND USING METH, HE

STARTED COOKING IT

HIMSELF.

RON CONTINUED IN THAT

LIFESTYLE FOR 14 YEARS,

GOING BETWEEN FOUR METH

LABS IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA

COUNTY.

THEN IN 2012, HE WAS

BUSTED FOR DRUG

MANUFACTURING AND GIVEN

FIVE YEARS.

AT THE TIME, A NUMBER OF

HIS FRIENDS HAD RECENTLY

DIED, MANY FROM DRUG

ADDICTION.

I JUST FELT LIKE THERE

WAS A FEELING OF DEATH ALL

AROUND ME ALL THE TIME,

WHETHER I WAS HIGH OR NOT.

AND IT REALLY BOTHERED ME.

Reporter: TWO MONTHS

INTO HIS SENTENCE, RON

WENT TO A JAIL BIBLE STUDY

JUST TO GET A BREAK FROM

HIS CELL.

INSTEAD, HE WAS FACED WITH

THE TRUTH OF WHO HE HAD

BECOME.

ALL OF MY PAST, THE

DRUGS, ALL OF MY SINS,

EVERYTHING JUST KIND OF

OVERWHELMED ME FOR SOME

REASON, ALL OF A SUDDEN.

AND I KNEW AT THAT MOMENT

ALL I HAD TO DO WAY ASK

AND ACCEPT JESUS, AND THAT

I WOULD BE FORGIVEN.

I GOT ON MY KNEES IN THAT

PRISON CELL, AND I SAID,

GOD, I JUST GIVE IT ALL TO

YOU.

I KNOW I'VE MESSED MY LIFE

UP, AND I WANT YOU TO TAKE

OVER.

AND HE TOOK OVER.

I HAD AN AMAZING FEELING

OF PEACE COME OVER ME.

THE LUMING FEELING OF

DEATH THAT WAS STILL

SURROUNDING ME, EVEN WHEN

I WENT INTO PRISON, WAS

JUST GONE.

THE DESIRE, WHICH I STILL

HAD, EVEN THOUGH I WAS

LOCKED UP, TO DO METH, WAS

GONE.

GOD PERFORMED A MIRACLE IN

MY LIFE.

Reporter: RON SPENT

HIS REMAINING TIME IN

PRISON SEEKING WHAT HE HAD

IGNORED HIS WHOLE LIFE.

OF COURSE, I HAD A LOT

OF TIME ON MY HANDS, BEING

IN PRISON, SO I SPENT A

LOT OF TIME IN THE WORD.

Reporter: GRANTED

PAROLE IN 2014, RON WALKED

OUT OF PRISON WITH A

RENEWED HEART AND MIND.

HE NOW HAS A GREAT

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS

PARENTS.

RON LATER MARRIED LISA AND

SAYS HE HAS COME TO KNOW

TRUE FREEDOM.

ALL OF MY NEEDS FOR

ACCEPTANCE FROM OTHER

PEOPLE JUST WAS GONE.

EVEN THOUGH I'M STILL NOT

PROUD OF WHAT I DID FOR

THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE, I

DON'T HAVE TO BE ASHAMED

OF IT ANYMORE.

I LIKE WHO I AM.

I LIKE WHO GOD IS MAKING

ME.

AND HE IS STILL WORKING ON

ME EVERY DAY.

Terry: YOU KNOW, WHEN

WE RUN FROM A GOD WHO

LOVES US AND WHO HAS

CREATED US WITH GOOD AND

WITH PURPOSE IN MIND, IT'S

REALLY A DECLARATION OF

SELF-SUFFICIENCY, IT IS A

REBELLIOUSNESS IN OUR

HEARTS.

THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALK

ABOUT COMING TO JESUS, WE

TALK ABOUT SURRENDERING TO

HIM BECAUSE THAT'S THE

BOTTOM LINE.

YOU CAN KNOW ABOUT HIM,

READ ABOUT HIM, TALK ABOUT

HIM, RAISED IN CHURCH, BUT

UNTIL YOU SURRENDER YOUR

LIFE TO HIM AND SAY, GOD,

NO LONGER MY WAY, I WANT

YOUR WAY, YOU DON'T REALLY

UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS

TO KNOW HIM AS YOUR

FATHER, AS LORD OF YOUR

LIFE, AS SAVIOR OF YOUR

SOUL.

ONE THING RON SAID EARLIER

IN THE STORY, IF SIN

WASN'T FUN, PEOPLE

WOULDN'T DO IT.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, MOST OF

THE STORIES I HEAR, AND MY

OWN LIFE BEFORE I KNEW THE

LORD -- I WAS DOING WHAT I

WAS DOING BECAUSE I WANTED

TO BELONG.

IT WASN'T THAT I LOVED

WHAT I WAS DOING SO MUCH

BUT I LOVED THE FACT THAT

I WAS DOING IT WITH OTHER

PEOPLE.

IT WAS A PARTY.

AND YET SOMEWHERE ALONG

THE WAY, WE COME TO THE

END OF OURSELVES.

WE COME TO THE PLACE THAT

RON CAME TO WHEN HE HAD,

AS HE SAID, A LOT OF TIME.

WHAT DID HE DO?

HE GOT INTO THE WORD.

GOD HAS LEFT US WITH A

BLUEPRINT, WITH AN

UNDERSTANDING OF THE WHY

BEHIND HIS CREATION.

HIS INTENTION AND PURPOSE

FOR US, THAT HE CAME TO

GIVE US HOPE AND A FUTURE,

NOT TO DESTROY US.

NOT TO MAKE US UNHAPPY.

IN FACT, JESUS SAID, I

CAME THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE

LIFE AND HAVE IT

ABUNDANTLY.

WHY DO WE RUN FROM THAT?

YOU KNOW, THERE IS

SOMETHING IN US THAT WANTS

TO JUST BE LORD OF OUR

LIVES.

WANTS TO JUST RUN THE

SHOW.

AND YET MOST OF THE TIME

WHEN WE DO THAT, WE WIND

UP FLAT ON OUR FACES.

I WANT TO SAY TO YOU

TODAY, IF YOU'RE NOT

EXPERIENCING ABUNDANT

LIFE, IF YOU'RE NOT

EXPERIENCING JOY TO THE

FULLEST -- THERE IS A

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

HAPPINESS AND JOY.

JOY LASTS THROUGHOUT

ANYTHING.

IF YOU'RE NOT

UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE

IS A PURPOSE FOR YOUR

LIFE, THEN I WANT TO

ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY TO

SURRENDER.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

YOU JUST COME TO THE LORD.

YOU KNOW, HE IS HERE ALL

OF THE TIME WITH US.

AND YOU SAY, GOD, I'M A

SINNER.

I GET IT.

I HAVE BEEN SELFISH, I

HAVE BEEN REBELLIOUS, AND

I NEED YOU TO SAVE ME.

I NEED YOU TO FORGIVE MY

SINS.

I GET IT, JESUS, YOU DIED

FOR ME.

AND THEN ASK HIM TO HELP

YOU WALK IN THAT.

FILL ME WITH YOUR HOLY

SPIRIT, GOD.

TEACH ME YOUR WAYS.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT GOD

SAYS THIS, YOUR WAYS ARE

DIFFERENT THAN MY WAYS.

I'M HIGHER THAN YOU.

SURRENDER TO THAT HIGH

POWER OF GOD TODAY.

YOU WILL BE ASTONISHED AT

THE JOY THAT WILL FILL

YOUR LIFE, THE WEIGHT THAT

WILL BE TAKEN OFF YOUR

SHOULDERS, THE FOCUS AND

THE DIRECTION YOU WILL

COME TO UNDERSTAND, THE

PURPOSE AND MEANING THAT

YOU'LL HAVE.

YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING

IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU NEED

SPECIFIC PRAYER ABOUT,

MAYBE YOU HAVE AN

ADDICTION, WHETHER IT IS

DRUGS, ALCOHOL, MAYBE IT

IS PORNOGRAPHY, MAYBE

YOU'RE STRUGGLING IN YOUR

MARRIAGE, WHATEVER IT

MIGHT BE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE STANDING BY

ON OUR PHONES WHO WOULD

LOVE TO PRAY WITH YOU

TODAY.

ALL OF US ARE SINNERS WHO

HAVE SURRENDERED OUR LIVES

TO GOD, AND TODAY WE WOULD

LIKE TO SEE YOU DO THAT,

TOO.

OUR NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE:

1-800-700-7000.

AND WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL

PACKET WE'D LIKE TO SEND

YOU.

IF YOU PRAY WITH SOMEONE

TODAY OR MAYBE YOU JUST

AGREE THAT YOU WANT TO

PRAY AND SURRENDER YOUR

OWN LIFE RIGHT NOW, AND

THIS IS CALLED "A NEW

DAY."

WHAT DO YOU DO AFTER YOU

PRAY THIS PRAYER AND

SURRENDER YOUR LIFE?

THIS IS FILLED WITH

INFORMATION AND PUT

TOGETHER WITH YOU IN MIND.

IT IS OUR FREE GIFT TO YOU

FROM US.

CALL NOW: 1-800-700-7000.

GORDON?

Gordon: WELL, STILL

AHEAD, A CHILD NEARLY GOES

BLIND AFTER PLAYING GAMES

WITH HIS FRIENDS.

SEE WHAT SAVED HIS SIGHT,

UP NEXT.

AND WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

DEVASTATING NEWS FOR THE

PARENTS OF OTTO WARMBIER

AFTER HE WAS RELEASED FROM

CAPTIVITY IN NORTH KOREA.

THE FORMER UNIVERSITY OF

VIRGINIA STUDENT HAS

SUFFERED SERIOUS BRAIN

DAMAGE.

THE BRUTAL COMMUNIST

REGIME CLAIMS HE

EXPERIENCED BOTULISM AND

FLIPPED INTO A COMA AFTER

TAKING A SLEEPING PILL.

BUT DOCTORS HERE IN THE

U.S. FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF

THAT CLAIM.

HIS FATHER SPOKE IN A NEWS

CONFERENCE, SHARING HIS

FAMILY'S OUTRAGE OVER THE

SITUATION AND BLAMING

NORTH KOREA AND THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION.

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR

THE WAY THE NORTH KOREANS

TREATED OUR SON AND NO

EXCUSE FOR THE WAY THEY

HAVE TREATED SO MANY

OTHERS.

I CALL ON THEM TO RELEASE

THE OTHER AMERICANS BEING

HELD.

NO OTHER FAMILY SHOULD

HAVE TO ENDURE WHAT WE

HAVE.

COULD I THINK THE PAST

ADMINISTRATION COULD HAVE

DONE MORE?

I THINK THE RESULTS SPEAK

FOR THEMSELVES.

Efrem: WARMBIER IS

UNRESPONSIVE.

> "OPERATION BLESSING"

RECENTLY HELPED A SMALL

COMMUNITY IN MEXICO GET

SAFE DRINKING WATER AND

EVEN BUILT NEW CLASSROOMS

FOR CHILDREN.

THEY HAVE STRUGGLED WITH

UNSAFE WATER AND POOR

LEARNING FACILITIES.

ONE KINDERGARTEN BUILDING

COLLAPSED, BUT "OPERATION

BLESSING" STEPPED IN.

NOW THE TOWN HAS WATER ON

TAP THAT THEY CAN DRINK,

AND NOW CLASSROOMS THAT

PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT

FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

> YOU CAN LEARN MORE

ABOUT "OPERATION BLESSING"

BY GOING TO ITS WEBSITE

AT ob.org.

TERRY AND GORDON ARE BACK

WITH MUCH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB."

IT IS COMING UP RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Terry: HE WAS AN

ACTIVE, FUN-LOVING BOY,

UNTIL HE INJURED HIS EYE

IN AN ACCIDENT.

HIS PARENTS WERE DESPERATE

TO GET HIM THE SURGERY

THAT HE NEEDED, BUT THERE

WAS NO WAY THEY WOULD EVER

BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

WE WERE PLAYING A GAME

WITH SOME STICKS.

WHEN ONE OF THEM HIT ME IN

MY RIGHT EYE.

HIS EYE BEGAN SWELLING.

WE TOOK HIM TO A CLINIC,

WHERE THEY GAVE HIM A SHOT

AND OINTMENT.

BUT IT DIDN'T HELP.

Reporter: A DRAMATIC

CATARACT HAD FORMED IN HIS

EYE.

HIS FATHER WORKED IN

CONSTRUCTION AND DID OTHER

JOBS AROUND HIS VILLAGE,

BUT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO

SAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR

CATARACT SURGERY.

MY WIFE AND I WERE

WORRIED ABOUT OUR SON'S

SIGHT.

OUR SON ISN'T READING,

HE STOPPED GOING TO

SCHOOL, AND HE DOESN'T

EVEN LIKE PLAYING GAMES.

Reporter: THEN A

LOCAL HOSPITAL CONTACTED

CBN AND TOLD US ABOUT

UMCAR.

AND WE IMMEDIATELY

ARRANGED FOR HIM TO GET A

FREE CATARACT SURGERY.

WHEN WE BENT BACK TO SEE

HOW HE WAS DOING, HE WAS

ONCE AGAIN PLAYING WITH

HIS FRIENDS AND GOING TO

SCHOOL.

NOW I CAN SEE WELL.

AT SCHOOL, I CAN SEE

EVERYTHING ON THE

CHALKBOARD.

HE LOVES TO READ AND

WRITE.

IT IS GREAT.

IT FEELS SO GOOD,

KNOWING THAT OUR SON IS

ENJOYING LIFE AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

GIVING ME THE SURGERY.

I'M SO HAPPY I CAN SEE

CLEARLY.

Terry: LOSS OF VISION

IS A TERRIBLE THING AND A

LIFE-IMPAIRING THING AT

ANY AGE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE A

LITTLE BOY, TO HAVE THAT

SIGNIFICANT VISION LOSS

MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN

YOUR LIFE.

THIS LITTLE GUY IS BACK

OUT PLAYING WITH HIS

FRIENDS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE IS IN

SCHOOL.

HE IS ABLE TO ABSORB

INFORMATION, READ WHAT HE

NEEDS TO, AND HE IS MOVING

FORWARD, GROWING UP AND

PROGRESSING, AND IT'S ALL

BECAUSE OF YOUR KINDNESS.

WE SAY THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, "700 CLUB"

MEMBERS YOU'RE DOING THIS

KIND OF WORK ALL AROUND

THE WORLD EVERY DAY.

WHETHER IT IS SUPPLYING

CLEAN DRINKING WATER,

HELPING A YOUNG CHILD OR A

GROWNUP WITH THEIR VISION

NEEDS, THERE ARE OTHER

MEDICAL NEEDS YOU MEET,

FEEDING PROGRAMS, ACADEMIC

PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY

RESTORATION, IT IS PAR ALL

PART OF WHAT "700 CLUB"

MEMBERS DO AROUND THE

WORLD.

IT IS 65 CENTS A DAY, $20

A MONTH.

IF YOU'RE NOT A "700 CLUB"

MEMBER, YOU'RE MISSING OUT

ON A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO

TOUCH THE WORLD.

WILL YOU CALL AND BE A

PART OF THAT NOW?

THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE:

1-800-700-7000.

AND, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU

CALL, AS A THANK YOU TO

YOU FOR CARING ABOUT

OTHERS, WE WANT TO SEND

YOU "MIRACLES," AND THIS

IS A D.V.D. THAT WE THINK

WILL STRENGTHEN YOUR

FAITH, FILLED WITH AMAZING

STORIES OF GOD'S WORK IN

THE LIVES OF BELIEVERS.

CALL RIGHT AWAY.

Gordon: COMING UP,

BISHOP HARRY JACKSON

ISSUES A CALL FROM THE

CHURCH: BE THE CATALYST

FOR CHANGE AND BRIDGE THE

RACIAL DIVIDE.

HE JOINS US LIVE, AND

THAT'S UP NEXT.

Gordon: IT'S NO

Gordon: IT'S NO

SECRET THAT THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA IS A

NATION DIVIDED.

OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS,

RIOTS IN FERGUSON,

OAKLAND, BALTIMORE, AND

OTHER CITIES HAVE MADE

NATIONAL NEWS.

SO BISHOP HARRY JACKSON

SAYS IT IS PASTTIME FOR

THE CHURCH TO STEP UP.

Reporter: AS RACIAL

TENSION INCREASES IN THE

U.S., MANY PEOPLE WONDER

HOW WE CAN CLOSE THE

RACIAL DIVIDE IN OUR

COMMUNITIES.

BISHOP HARRY JACKSON SAYS

THERE IS HOPE.

HE GIVES CONFERENCES ABOUT

RACIAL RECONCILIATION.

AS SENIOR PASTOR AT A

CHURCH IN WASHINGTON,

D.C., HE BELIEVES THE

CHURCH SHOULD PLAY A ROLE

IN UNIFYING PEOPLE OF ALL

RACES.

Gordon: BISHOP HARRY

JACKSON IS HERE WITH US.

WELCOME BACK.

GOOD TO BE WITH YOU,

GORDON.

Gordon: YOU SAY THE

RACIAL DIVIDE IS ACTUALLY

PROPHESIED IN THE BIBLE?

IT REALLY IS.

IF YOU LOOK AT JESUS, IN

MATTHEW, HE SAYS IN THE

PAST DAYS, NATIONS WILL

RISE AGAINST NATIONS, AND

THE UNDER LYING WORTH IS

ETHNICITIES, AND SO

TRIBALISM IS HARD WIRED.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE

BIBLE, THE DIVISION THAT

WE FIND AT THE TOWER OF

BABYL, WHERE WE WERE ONE

RACE AND ALL HAD ONE

LANGUAGE, AND BECAUSE THEY

WERE MOVING IN REBELLION

AGAINST GOD, HE SAID, I'M

GOING TO BREAK UP THE

FALSE UNITY WITHOUT GOD,

AND EVERYBODY HAD THEIR

OWN LANGUAGE.

THE DAY OF PENTECOST,

HOWEVER, GORDON, THEY CAME

TOGETHER WHEN THEY ALL

SPOKE IN TONGUES, AND

PEOPLE HEARD MEN WHO THEY

KNEW HAD NOT LEARNED THESE

LANGUAGES BY NATURAL

MEANS, AND THEY REALIZED

GOD WAS UNIFYING --

REUNIONFYING HUMAN KIND

UNDER THE OSPICES OF JESUS

CHRIST.

Gordon: THERE WAS THE

JEWISH-GENTILE DIVIDE AND

LOTS OF OTHERS INVOLVED --

HOW DID THEY DO IT?

IN THE WRITINGS OF

PAUL, HE KEPT ESCORTING

THEM TO BE ONE.

HE SAYS THERE IS NEITHER

JEW NOR GREEK, MALE OR

FEMALE.

THE IDEA IS WHATEVER IT IS

THAT YOUR DEFINING

DISTINCTION, IN CHRIST WE

OUGHT TO COME TOGETHER,

WORK TOGETHER, LOVE ONE

ANOTHER, AND TOGETHER

WE'RE A CORPORATE

EXPRESSION OF WHO JESUS IS

ON THE EARTH.

PAUL'S CHURCH IN ROME --

THERE WAS A GUY, WHO AS A

PRISONER, CONVERTED HIS

PRISON GUARDS, AND THE

CHURCH IN ROME HAD ALL

KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE

SLAVES, TEACHING PEOPLE

THAT WERE FREE.

SO OUR HISTORY IS WE HAVE

ECLIPSED SOCIAL BARRIERS.

THAT'S OUR HISTORY AND OUR

BACKGROUND.

IF WE CAN UNIFY THE CHURCH

IN AMERICA AS A UNITED

FORCE, WE COULD THEN BRING

HEALING TO A VERY DIVIDED

LAND.

Gordon: WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING ACTUALLY GOES

AGAINST EITHER THE CURRENT

PRACTICE --

YES.

Gordon: -- ON AGAINST

THE THEOLOGY, THE KEYS TO

CHURCH GROWTH IS FINDING A

COMMUNITY OF LIKE-MINDED

COMMUNITY, AND THAT

USUALLY MEANS SAME RACE,

SAME ECONOMIC STATUS --

EXACTLY.

Gordon: AND THAT'S

THE KEY, YOU WANT TO BE

SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT

LOOK AND ACT LIKE YOU.

YEAH.

Gordon: HOW DO YOU

BREAKTHROUGH THAT?

I THINK THAT'S WHERE

DISCIPLESHIP COMES IN.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE MISSED

IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE

KINGDOM TO SOMEONE WHO

GETS BORN AGAIN -- BY THE

WAY, I PRAYED YEARS AGO IN

A HOTEL ROOM IN CLEVELAND,

OHIO, WITH YOUR FATHER, TO

RECEIVE JESUS.

SO I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GET

SAVED, THOUGH, THEY NEED

TO SEE THE KIND OF

MODELING THAT WAS DONE

BACK THERE ON "THE 700

CLUB."

THE BLACK AND WHITE GUY

WORKING TOGETHER, MULTIPLE

RACES COMING TOGETHER.

IF WE DISCIPLE PEOPLE IN

THAT MANNER, THEY WON'T

THINK IT IS STRANGE TO

HAVE FRIENDSHIPS AND

AFFILIATIONS.

SO TWO SIDES OF RACISM IN

AMERICA: ONE IS INDIVIDUAL

HEART CHANGE SO THAT I

DON'T HATE YOU, FOR

EXAMPLE.

BUT THEN THE STRUCTURAL

PROBLEMS IN OUR CULTURE,

WHICH MEANS IF YOU'VE BEEN

TO PRISON, YOU DON'T GET A

SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE, OR

IF YOU DON'T HAVE VERY

GOOD READING SKILLS YOU

CAN'T GET A JOB -- THERE

ARE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO

COLLABORATELY,

COLLECTIVELY AS A CHURCH

TO BEGIN TO BRING FORTH

THAT HEALING PROCESS.

I'M SHOUTING TO THE

NATION, HEY, EVERYBODY,

WE'RE ONE AND WE'RE THE

NATION'S ANSWER.

Gordon: RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE TO BE

INTENTIONAL WITH IT --

YES.

Gordon: MORE THAN

JUST ASPIRATIONAL?

MORE THAN JUST SAYING,

OKAY, I SEE THIS IN THE

BIBLE, THERE WAS A UNITY

THERE THAT TRANSCENDED

EVERYTHING, AND THAT

SPIRITUAL UNITY.

YES.

Gordon: HOW WOULD YOU

ADVICE A PASTOR TODAY, IF

THEY WANTED TO TAKE THEIR

CHURCH DOWN THIS ROAD,

WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO?

ON OUR WEBSITE, WE TALK

ABOUT BRIDGES TO PEACE.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A

COUPLE OF THEM.

I WOULD SAY PICK SOMETHING

YOU WANT TO DO THAT HAS

SHORT-TERM, INTERMEDIATE,

AND LONG-TERM FRUIT TO

HEAL THE STRUCTURAL

PROBLEMS OF RACISM.

AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER IN

TERMS OF HAVING PEOPLE OF

MANY RACES WORSHIPPING

TOGETHER, AS MUCH AS YOU

CAN, IN YOUR CHURCH, OR

PARTNERING WITH OTHER

CHURCHES.

THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.

BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO

BE PRACTICAL.

AND THERE ARE THREE

PRACTICAL AREAS:

EDUCATIONAL REFORM.

FOLKS WHO DON'T DO WELL AT

THE THIRD GRADE, THEY WIND

UP IN PRISON.

ANOTHER THING, YOU CAN'T

GET A JOB -- MY DESTINY IS

TIED INTO WHAT I DO FOR A

LIVING, MY SENSE OF

PURPOSE, MY VALUE, SO WHAT

KIND OF THINGS CAN YOU DO

IN YOUR CITY TO BRING

JOBS.

AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE

REFORM IS SOMETHING I'M

REALLY BIG ON.

HOW CAN A CHURCH, IF

SOMEONE HAS A HEART FOR

HELPING PEOPLE, HOW CAN

THEY SELECT A COUPLE OF

PEOPLE A YEAR TO HELP THEM

RETURN TO THEIR FAMILIES,

BE DISCIPLED IN THE WORD,

GET A GOOD JOB, STAY THE

COURSE IN TERMS OF BEING

THERE IN THEIR FAMILY AND

THEIR COMMUNITY?

SO THAT'S A BROAD

OVERVIEW.

Gordon: WELL, I AGREE

WITH YOU ON ALL OF THEM.

AND PARTICULARLY REFORMING

THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE

SYSTEM.

I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY

BROKEN.

YES.

Gordon: AND WE'RE

HEARING YET AGAIN A CALL,

LET'S GET TOUGH ON CRIME,

OR LET'S GET TOUGH ON

SENTENCING, BUT WE'RE NOT

REALIZING THE OVERALL

SOCIAL IMPACT OF THAT.

WE REALLY AREN'T.

THIS COMING TUESDAY, THERE

IS GOING TO BE A BIG

MEETING WITH THE PRISON

FELLOWSHIP.

YOU KNOW I'M ON THE BOARD

OF THE PRISON FELLOWSHIP.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

JUSTICE DECLARATION.

IT IS SIMPLY WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING: THE CHURCH

RECOGNIZES WE HAVE A DOG

IN THIS FIGHT.

MEANING, WE WANT TO SHOW

THE MERCY AND LOVE AND

KINDNESS OF GOD AND

FORGIVENESS TO PEOPLE WHO

HAVE MESSED UP.

AND LET'S NOT JUST

DISGUARDISCARDPEOPLE.

LET'S EXTEND A SECOND

CHANCE TO PEOPLE, AND IN

SOME VERY TANGIBLE WAYS.

GROUPS LIKE THE N.A.E.

PRISON FELLOWSHIP, THE

COLESON CENTER, AND THE

SOUTHERN BAPTIST

CONVENTION RELIGION ETHICS

GROUPS ARE COMING TOGETHER

JUST TO SAY, LET'S THINK

ABOUT THE FORGOTTEN WHO

HAVE WOUND UP IN PRISON,

AND LET'S EVANGELIZE THEM,

LET'S DISCIPLE THEM, LET'S

BRING THEM BACK INTO THE

FOLD OF AMERICAN DESTINY.

Gordon: CAN'T WE ALSO

FOCUS ON THE LEGISLATION?

BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS

TO START THERE AS WELL.

WE SEEM TO BE LOCKING

PEOPLE UP AT A RECORD

RATE.

HOW CAN WE SAY, IF IT'S A

NON-VIOLENT OFFENSE, NOW

WHAT DO WE DO?

IS PRISON THE RIGHT WAY?

IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO

GO?

THERE IS A STUDY THAT

IS JUST COMING OUT -- WE

DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET

INTO IT -- ABOUT OUR

SOCIETAL IDEAS.

MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT

IF YOU GO TO PRISON, THAT

YOU BECOME A BETTER

CRIMINAL.

THE AVERAGE PERSON HAS

GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THEIR

THINKING, THAT THERE MAY

BE ANOTHER WAY.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT CERTAIN

GROUPS, LIKE PRISON

FELLOWSHIP, ARE DOING

GREAT, ADVANCED WORK.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AS

CHRISTIANS, PUT THESE

THINGS ON THE BALLOTS AND

LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF

REFORMS.

REMEMBER, TAKE AWAY THE

BOX, THE IDEA OF CHECKING

THE BOX, HAVE YOU EVER

BEEN IN PRISON, IF YOU'RE

LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO

STAY OR A HOUSE OR AN

APARTMENT -- THOSE

SPECIFIC THINGS WILL

REQUIRE LEGISLATION.

AND ALL ACROSS AMERICA, IT

IS NOT UNIFORM.

IN D.C., YOU WILL HAVE

HALFWAY HOUSING

OPPORTUNITIES WHERE YOU

CAN GET YOUR LIFE, A

LITTLE BIT OF MONEY,

RETRAIN YOURSELF AND GO

BACK TO THE WORLD.

THERE ARE SOME STATES

WHERE YOU JUST GET SENT

OUT, YOU GET A LITTLE

CHECK, AND YOU'RE ON YOUR

OWN, BACK TO WHERE YOU

CAME FROM.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO GET THE MESSAGE

WE'RE THE CHANGE AGENTS,

AND WE NEED TO DO SOME

SPECIFIC THINGS.

AND THEY CAN COME TO US AT

OUR WEBSITE, AND WE'LL

HAVE SOME SPECIFICS.

ALSO GREAT GROUPS, LIKE

PRISON FELLOWSHIP, ARE

DOING AMAZING THINGS.

BUT, GUESS WHAT?

THIS WILL NOT SURPRISE

YOU, UNTIL THERE IS A

DEMAND MADE ON THE

POLITICAL, UNTIL THE

CHURCH SAYS, HEY, WE'RE

GOING TO VOTE YOU OUT OF

OFFICE, ON THE LOCAL AND

PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL, IF YOU

DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT

IT, OR IT'S NOT GOING TO

CHANGE.

NOW IS THE TIME TO CHANGE.

IT IS URGENT.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS

BOTH SEE A NEED.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT ENOUGH

PEOPLE ARE BLOWING THE

TRUMPET FROM THE PEW -- OR

I SHOULD SAY FROM THE

POLLING BOOTH.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

LET'S DO.

I'LL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH

YOU.

EXCELLENT.

Gordon: THANK YOU FOR

BEING WITH US.

> COMING UP NEXT, WE'LL

BE ANSWERING YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

DON'T GO AWAY.

Gordon: WE WANT YOU

TO KNOW THE STORY OF HOW

ISRAEL REUNIFIED JERUSALEM

DURING THE SIX-DAY WAR.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

TODAY'S HEADLINES UNLESS

YOU KNOW THIS HISTORY.

AND NOW YOU CAN OWN A

D.V.D. OF THE MOVIE "IN

OUR HANDS: THE BATTLE FOR

JERUSALEM."

ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A

DONATION OF $15.

YOU CAN GIVE MORE IF YOU

WANT TO, BUT $15, AND YOU

CAN HAVE THE D.V.D.

IF YOU'D LIKE IT, CALL US:

1-800-700-7000.

OR YOU CAN GO TO

cbn.com.AND IT IS TIME

FOR "BRING IT ON."

Terry: THIS FIRST ONE

COMES FROM JOHN GORDON,

WHO SAYS, "I'VE BEEN DOING

A STUDY ON THE ELECTIVE

GOD, WHICH TEACHES GOD HAS

CHOSEN THOSE WHO WILL

SAVE.

I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST

AS MY LORD AND I BELIEVE

THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT

GUIDES ME.

I DO MY BEST TO LIVE FOR

GOD.

DOES THAT MEAN I AM THE

ELECTIVE GOD, AND DOES GOD

REALLY PREDESTINE THOSE

WHO WILL BE SAVED OR CAN

ANYONE BE SAVED?"

Gordon: I'M NOT SURE

HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE TO

GO DEEP INTO CALVINISM.

IN GOD'S FOREKNOWLEDGE, HE

KNOWS.

AND THE WONDERFUL THING IS

WE NEED TO HAVE IN OUR

MINDS AND IN OUR HEARTS

THAT FOR GOD SO LOVED THE

WORLD -- THAT MEANS

EVERYONE -- HE GAVE HIS

ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

I SIMPLIFIED IT IN A VERY

SIMPLE PHRASE, WHEN I

PREACH, I'M ARMENIAN.

THE DOOR IS OPEN FOR YOU.

WHEN I PRAY, I'M A

CALVINIST.

GOD, YOU CHOSE ME.

YOU GOT ME INTO THIS.

AND I NEED YOU TO HELP ME

RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S ONE WAY TO APPROACH

IT, WHEN YOU GO TO GOD IN

PRAYER, YOU'RE HIS CHOSEN,

BELOVED ONE, THAT HE CHOSE

FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE

EARTH.

WHEN YOU GO TO PEOPLE WHO

ARE NOT IN FELLOWSHIP WITH

GOD, YOU DECLARE TO THEM

THE GOOD NEWS, THAT THEY

CAN HAVE AN OPEN DOOR.

THEY CAN GO BOLDLY TO THE

THRONE OF GRACE AND

RECEIVE SALVATION.

Terry: THIS COMES

FROM KAREN WHO SAYS, "MY

HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN

MARRIED FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND I CANNOT STAND THE

MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE

THAT HE PUTS ME THROUGH ON

A DAILY BASIS.

I HAVE TRIED COUNSELLING,

BUT HE REFUSES AS HE

DOESN'T, QUOTE, "HAVE ANY

PROBLEMS."

I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS,

UNTIL DEATH DO YOU PART,

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO.

I FEEL LIKE LEAVING HIM,

BUT ISN'T IT AGAINST HIS

WILL."

Gordon: GOD CLEARLY

HATES DIVORCE.

YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME ALL

ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE.

DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN?

THAT'S ONE REASON GOOD

HATEGODHATES DIVORCE.

THERE ARE SPECIFIC

BIBLICAL REASONS FOR

DIVORCE.

IF YOU'RE DESCRIPTION, I

CAN'T TELL YOU ONE WAY OR

ANOTHER ON THAT.

I DO BELIEVE PEOPLE DON'T

HAVE TO LIVE IN A

SITUATION WHERE THERE IS

CONSTANT ABUSE.

AND BOUNDARIES ARE GOOD.

YOU CAN MAKE CERTAIN

REQUIREMENTS.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR

FINANCIAL MEANS.

DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO

MOVE OUT?

THERE ARE STEPS SHORT OF

DIVORCE, WHERE YOU ISSUE

WAKEUP CALLS, THAT UNLESS

YOU CHANGE, I'M A HUMAN

BEING.

I DO NOT DESERVE TO BE

TREATED THIS WAY.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO

TREAT ME THIS WAY, I NEED

TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO FINANCIALLY CAN YOU

AFFORD TO DO THAT?

CAN YOU SET THOSE KINDS OF

BOUNDARIES?

AND WHEN THOSE BOUNDARIES

ARE VIOLATED, THEN YOU'VE

GOT TO TAKE IT TO OTHER

LEVELS.

THERE ARE THINGS SHORT OF

DIVORCE THAT YOU CAN DO.

Terry: THIS VIEWER

SAYS, "WHAT DOES

PHILIPPIANS 2: 12 MEAN,

WHEN IT SAYS TO "CONTINUE

TO WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION

WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING."

Gordon: THE IDEA HERE

IS DON'T PRESUME ON THE

GRACE OF GOD.

DON'T GO OUT AND SAY I NOW

HAVE A LICENSE TO SIN, I

CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT.

HONOR THE LORD AND LIVE A

LIFE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

AND REALIZE HE IS A

CONSUMING FIRE.

FEAR AND TREMBLING --

APPROACH HIM WITH AWE AND

REVERENCE AND PRESERVE

YOUR SOUL.

> HERE IS A WORD FROM

JOHN: "IF YOU'LL ABIDE IN

ME AND MY WORDS ABIDE IN

YOU, YOU WILL ASK WHAT YOU

DESIRE, AND IT SHALL BE

DONE FOR YOU."

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