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700 Club Interactive - July 27, 2017

A couple was looking forward to the birth of their child when the soon-to-be mom suffered a stroke. See how she and her baby both miraculously survived. Read Transcript


I COULD SEE IMMEDIATELY

THAT SOMETHING WASN'T

RIGHT.

Gordon: A PREGNANT

MOM COLLAPSES.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS

GOING TO GET MY WIFE BACK

OR IF SHE WAS GOING TO BE

IN A WHEELCHAIR THE REST

OF HER LIFE, OR IF SHE

WOULD PASS AWAY.

Gordon: WATCH AS A

CALL TO PRAYER SAVES TWO

LIVES.

> PLUS...SHE IS THE

COUSIN OF JUDITH SMITH AND

THE FORMER PASTOR OF CITY

CHURCH IN L.A.

TRACY WILDE SHARES HOW HER

FAITH WAS SHAKEN WHEN HER

BOYFRIEND UNEXPECTANTLY

PASSED AWAY.

ALL ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

HERE IS "STUDIO 5" HOST

EFREM GRAHAM WITH THIS

WEEK'S TOP FIVE-TRENDING

STORIES.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...

WHOOSH, AND THAT'S THE

GAME.

Efrem: FUNNY NAME JIM

CURRIE DELIVERS AN

INSPIRING MESSAGE.

I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE

FACT THAT I BELIEVE THAT

THIS ROOM IS STILL WITH

GOD.

Efrem: ADDRESSING A

ROOM FULL OF FORMER

INMATES HERE AT "HOME BOY

INDUSTRY," A

LOS ANGELES-BASED

ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES

SUPPORT AND JOBS TO FORMER

PRISONERS AND GANG

MEMBERS.

I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK

TO THE FACT THAT I'VE HAD

SOME CHALLENGES IN THE

LAST COUPLE OF YEARS

MYSELF.

AND ULTIMATELY I BELIEVE

THAT SUFFERING LEADS TO

SALVATION.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FOUR...

[SPEAKING A FOREIGN

LANGUAGE]

Efrem: PRINCE WILLIAM

AND PRINCE HARRY OPEN UP

ABOUT THEIR MOTHER IN A

NEW TV DOCUMENTARY.

THE PRINCES WERE EAGER TO

CELEBRATE HER LIFE, GOING

THROUGH PHOTO ALBUMS THAT

WERE SHUT FOR 20 YEARS

AFTER SHE WAS KILLED IN AN

ACCIDENT.

THE FUTURE KING WAS ONLY

15, AND HARRY, 12.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME

THAT THE TWO OF US HAVE

EVER SPOKEN ABOUT HER AS A

MOTHER.

SHE WAS REALLY SWEET,

AND REALLY ENJOYED

LAUGHTER AND FUN.

SHE WAS ONE OF THE

NAUSTIEST PARENTS.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

THREE...DISNEY ANNOUNCES

THE CAST FOR ITS LIVE

ADAPTATION OF ALADDIN, AND

ALONG WITH WILL SMITH IS

NAOMI SCOTT AS PRINCESS

JASMINE.

SCOTT MAY BE BEST KNOWN

FOR PLAYING THE PINK POWER

RANGER, BUT SHE IS ALSO A

RECORDING ARTIST AND

WORSHIP LEADER.

*

Efrem: WHO SHARED HER

FAITH AND PRAYERS FOR

PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS ON

SOCIAL MEDIA.

> AT NUMBER TWO...WE'VE

SEEN JUSTIN BIEBER ROCKING

OUT TO HILLSONG "YOUNG AND

FREE," RECENTLY POSTING

THEIR SINGLE, "FALLING

INTO YOU" AS HIS FAVORITE

SONG.

WE MENTIONED IT TO THE

BAND MEMBERS, WHO PAID

"STUDIO 5" A VISIT ON

THEIR AMERICAN LEG OF

THEIR YOUTH REVIVAL TOUR.

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE

SOMEONE LIKE THAT REALLY

JUST CHAMPION THE MUSIC

THAT YOU ARE PUTTING OUT?

I THINK IT IS REALLY

COOL THAT SOMEONE WHO IS

AS INFLUENTIAL AS HIM IS

MAKING A STAND FOR JESUS.

AND THE FACT THAT HE IS

LISTENING TO WORSHIP MUSIC

AND TO MUSIC PLATFORMS,

AND TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT

THERE THAT JESUS IS WHO HE

IS, AND WHAT HE HAS DONE,

IS JUST AN HONOR.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

ONE...

I WOULD SURE LIKE TO

GET UP AT THE PULPIT AND

SOUND OFF TO ALL OF THOSE

SERGEANTS IN THE

CONGREGATION.

Efrem: "STUDIO 5" HAS

SHARED THE SALVATION STORY

OF HOLLYWOOD ICON TEV ICON STEVE

MACLEAN.

AND SO THEY TRACKED HIM

DOWN AND SAID, ARE YOU THE

PREACHER WHO PRAYED WITH

QUEEN McQUEEN, AND HE

SAID, I AM.

Efrem: HE IS GIVING

"STUDIO 5" THIS EXCLUSIVE

FIRST LOOK.

EVERY SUNDAY WE WENT TO

CHURCH, WHICH I THINK THAT

WAS JUST STEVE'S WAY.

HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE

HAD ALL OF HIS QUESTIONS

ANSWERED.

I SAID, EACH ONE OF US

IS DIFFERENT, BUT GOD HAS

A TAILER-MADE PLAN FOR

EACH OF US.

AND HE GRINNED, AND HE

SAID, YOU WANT TO KNOW IF

I WAS BORN AGAIN.

HE SAID REMEMBER THE

SUNDAY WHEN YOU GAVE THAT

INVITATION?

AND SAID, THAT'S WHEN I

ACCEPTED CHRIST.

Efrem: IT IS IN

THEATERS SEPTEMBER 28th.

Gordon: I'M HEARING

JIM CARREY, AND I'M GOING,

WOW.

WHAT HISTOR HAS HAPPENED TO HIM.

Efrem: HE SPOKE ABOUT

FAITH AND FORGIVENESS, AND

HE IS AT A BAKERY OF ALL

FORMER INMATES AND GANG

MEMBERS, SAYING HE IS SO

PLEASED THAT THEY HAVE

CHOSEN GRACE AS A PATH

FORWARD, AND THAT THEY

DIDN'T CHOOSE REVENGE.

AND HE ADMITS HE IS GOING

THROUGH HIS OWN LEGAL

STRUGGLES, GOING THROUGH A

LEGAL BATTLE WITH HIS LATE

GIRLFRIEND'S FAMILY.

IT WAS JUST A JIM CARREY

TO HEAR.

I THINK HE IS, LIKE, 55

NOW, BUT CERTAINLY A LOT

DIFFERENT THAN A YOUNGER

JIM CARREY.

Gordon: FOR HIM TO

SAY THIS ROOM IS FILLED

WITH GOD, THAT'S AN

INCREDIBLE STATEMENT.

Efrem: IT'S

BEAUTIFUL.

Gordon: AND TO SAY

SUFFERING LEADS TO

SALVATION IS PROFOUND.

Efrem: YEAH.

AND I THINK HE IS SPEAKING

FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

INDEED.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT,

LET'S TALK ABOUT NAOMI

SCOTT.

THIS HAS GOT TO BE A BIG

BREAKTHROUGH FOR HER.

BUT SHE HAS HAD SEVERAL.

Efrem: UH-HUH.

Gordon: IF YOU

INTERVIEWED HER YET?

I HAVE NOT INTERVIEWED

HER YET.

SHE IS ONE OF MY LONG LIST

OF PEOPLE WHO I'M

PURSUING.

SHE HAS A BEAUTIFUL

STORY --

Gordon: A BEAUTIFUL

VOICE.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

I CAME TO HER FIRST AS

POWER RANGERS, AND THEN I

STARTED FOLLOWING HER AND

I THOUGHT, OH, WOW, SHE

HAS AN INCREDIBLE VOICE.

AND YOU READ MORE, PARENTS

ARE MINISTERS AND HE LEADS

WORSHIP AT HIS CHURCH.

I HAD NO IDEA.

AND SHE USES HER PLATFORM

TO SPEAK OUT ON POSITIVE

OF PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS

AND PERSECUTED REFUGEES.

AND SHE IS STILL

CELEBRATING CHRIST ON THE

PLATFORM, EVEN AS IT GETS

BIGGER, AND IT IS

WONDERFUL TO SEE.

Gordon: ANY

PREDICTIONS WHAT IS NEXT

AFTER A ALADDIN?

Efrem: THAT'S A GOOD

QUESTION.

I THINK DISNEY WILL LATCH

ON TO DO SOME MORE THINGS

WITH HER.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT

WILL BE.

BUT I THINK EMBRACING HER

AND CASTING HER AS JASMINE

IS A BIG DEAL FOR HER.

I SEE HER HAVING A LONGER

RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, I

WOULD IMAGINE.

Gordon: JUSTIN

BIEBER, HE DOESN'T EVER

STAY OUT OF THE NEWS.

Efrem: HE DOESN'T.

THIS WEEK IN ADDITION TO

ME -- I LITERALLY TALKED

TO HILLSONG YOUNG AND FREE

ON THURSDAY, WHILE THEY'RE

ON THEIR AMERICAN TOUR

HERE, AND I MENTIONED

JUSTIN BIEBER, AND DAYS

LATER HE LITERALLY PULLS

THE PLUG ON HIS "PURPOSE"

TOUR WITH 14 STOPS LEFT.

HE SAYS HE NEEDS REST AND

R & R.

OTHER PEOPLE KNOW IT IS

BECAUSE OF THE REBIRTH OF

HIS FAITH.

HE SIMPLY WAS NOT INTO IT

ANYMORE.

I SAW THIS MORNING, HE

SAID, DON'T BLAME JESUS

FOR ME PULLING THE PLUG ON

MY TOUR.

BUT HE IS DEFINITELY

WALKING A MUCH CLOSER

FAITH WALK THAN HE HAS IN

YEARS PAST.

EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT HE

HANGS AROUND, WATCH HIS

INSTAGRAM FEED, IN RICH

WILKERSON, WE KNOW THEY

ARE POPULAR PASTORS WHO

PREACH THE WORD POWERFULLY

POWERFULLY --

Gordon: AND WHEN YOU

START TALKING ABOUT THE

NUMBER OF TOURS AND THEN

THE WHOLE INDUSTRY THAT

STARTS GEARING UP FOR

THAT, AND THEN THE

ENTOURAGE THAT GEARS UP,

AND THEN YOU FEEL

PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE

BECAUSE ALL OF THESE

PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES

ARE NOW DEPENDENT ON YOU.

Efrem: ABSOLUTELY.

Gordon: IT -- IT WILL

GRIND YOU UP.

Efrem: IT WILL.

AS I WAS READING TO FIND

OUT HOW LONG HE HAS BEEN

ON TOUR, HE HAS BEEN ON

TOUR FOR THE LAST TWO

YEARS.

Gordon: I WOULD BE

TIRED.

Efrem: I'D BE TIRED

IN TWO WEEKS.

Gordon: I WOULD BE

TIRED.

WHAT TIME ZONE AM I IN?

WHAT CITY IS THIS?

AND HOW DO YOU MAKE IT

HAPPEN?

AND I'VE GOT TO PERFORM

THREE HOURS.

Efrem: AND NOT

DISAPPOINT YOUR FANS.

Gordon: OKAY, STEVE

McQUEEN.

LET'S MOVE ON.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO

JUSTIN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT

HIM SAYING, THIS IS MY

FAVORITE SONG?

Efrem: I LOVE IT

BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE SONG

REALLY DESCRIBES WHAT I

THINK IS HIS WALK.

"I'M FALLING INTO YOU."

I LOVE THE SONG MYSELF,

PERSONALLY.

AND IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT

IT IS HIS FAVORITE.

IT IS FUNNY, LISTENING TO

THAT, I CAN HEAR HIM

SINGING THAT AND RECORDING

THAT HIMSELF.

Gordon: AFTER HE'S

RESTED, MAYBE.

Efrem: YOU'VE HAD

THREE DAYS OFF.

GET BACK TO WORK.

Gordon: NO, SIX

MONTHS.

TAKE YOUR TIME TO

RECHARGE.

WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL

TO SEE HIM DO A WORSHIP

TOUR.

Efrem: THAT IS MY

PRAYER.

TO USE THAT PLATFORM, CAN

YOU IMAGINE THE LIVES THAT

WILL BE TOUCHED AND

CHANGED WHEN HIS ENTIRE

BODY IS DOING NOTHING BUT

UPLIFTING CHRIST?

I LOVE THAT.

Gordon: OKAY, STEVE

McQUEEN.

Efrem: LOOKING

FORWARD TO THE

DOCUMENTARY.

WE CAN SAY THAT WE BROUGHT

YOU THAT CLIP FIRST.

THAT IS THE PASTOR WHO LED

STEVE McQUEEN TO CHRIST.

NICE TO SEE -- GREG LAURIE

HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.

THE DOCUMENTARY WILL BE IN

THEATERS ON THE 28th.

IT WILL BE A ONE-NIGHT

EVENT.

IT IS AN AMAZING STORY.

AND THE MORE YOU LEARN

ABOUT THAT MAN -- AND I

LOVE THE FACT THAT HE

CHOSE TO FOLLOW CHRIST.

NOT ON HIS DEATH BED -- HE

DID DIE SOME MONTHS LATER,

BUT THAT DECISION TO

FOLLOW CHRIST DIDN'T COME

ON HIS DEATH BED.

IT CAME WHILE HE WAS STILL

ABLE TO ACT AND HAVE A

GREAT CAREER.

HE REALLY PURSUED GOD.

Gordon: HE KNEW HE

HAD CANCER.

AND GETTING BACK TO JIM

CARREY, SUFFERING DOES

LEAD YOU TO SALVATION.

IT GETS YOU THINKING REAL

DEEP THOUGHTS.

Efrem: INDEED.

Gordon: FOR ALL OF

THE LATEST IN

ENTERTAINMENT NEWS, CHECK

OUT EFREM'S WEEKLY SHOW,

"STUDIO 5."

IT'S AVAILABLE ON ROKU,

APPLE TV OR YOU CAN WATCH

IT AS cbn.com/studio5.

> COMING UP, THEY WERE

GETTING READY FOR A FAMILY

BIKE RIDE.

INSTEAD, THEY TOOK A TRIP

TO THE E.R.

I CALLED 9-1-1 RIGHT

AWAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS

GOING TO GET MY WIFE BACK.

I KNEW IT WAS SERIOUS.

Gordon: SEE HOW THIS

MOM AND HER UNBORN BABY

MIRACULOUSLY SURVIVES A

BRAIN ANEURYSM.

THAT'S UP NEXT WHEN WE

Gordon: SINCE THE AGE

OF 16, ANNA HAS SUFFERED

FROM TERRIBLE HEADACHES.

SHE THOUGHT THEY WERE

MIGRAINES, UNTIL LAST

SEPTEMBER, WHEN SHE WAS IN

HER SECOND TRIMESTER, A

BLOOD VESSEL BURST IN HER

BRAIN.

I COULD SEE IMMEDIATELY

THAT SOMETHING WASN'T

RIGHT.

Reporter: NATE WEAVER

AND HIS WIFE, ANNA, WERE

GETTING READY TO GO FOR A

BIKE RIDE ONE SATURDAY

MORNING, WHEN SHE GOT WHAT

THEY THOUGHT WAS ANOTHER

MIGRAINE.

SHE HAD HAD HEADACHES

WHITQUITE A BIT IN THE PAST.

SHE HAD MIGRAINES BEFORE

WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT

BEFORE WITH OUR TWO AND A

HALF-YEAR-OLD BECKLIN.

Reporter: ANNA

STARTED THROWING UP AND

HAVING STOMACH CRAMPS.

NOW NATE FELT A WAVE OF

PANIC.

ANNA WAS 26 WEEKS

PREGNANT.

MOMENTS LATER SHE

COLLAPSED.

I CALLED 9-1-1 RIGHT

AWAY AND EXPLAINED WHAT

WAS GOING ON.

THEY INITIALLY HAD ME ASK

HER TO LIFT BOTH OF HER

ARMS UP ABOVE HER HEAD.

HER RIGHT ARM WENT RIGHT

UP, BUT HER LEFT ARM

DIDN'T MOVE AT ALL.

Reporter: SHE WAS

RUSHED TO THE E.R.

A C.A.T. SCAN SHOWED A

RUPTURED ANEURYSM.

NATE COULD LOSE HIS WIFE

AND HIS BABY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS

GOING TO GET MY WIFE BACK,

IF SHE WOULD BE IN A

WHEELCHAIR THE REST OF HER

LIFE, OR IF SHE WOULD PASS

AWAY.

Reporter: NATE

IMMEDIATELY SENT OUT A

CALL TO PRAYER.

I WANTED TO GET THE

WORD OUT THERE.

I KNEW IT WAS SERIOUS AND

IT WAS AN ANEURYSM.

I KNEW THE MORE PRAY WE

HAD, THE BETTER THE

OUTCOME WOULD BE.

Reporter: THE

NEUROSURGEON SAID TO SAVE

BOTH MOM AND BABY, ANNA

WOULD NEED A DANGEROUS

SURGERY TO CLIP THE

ANEURYSM.

OF ALL PEOPLE WHO

SURVIVE AND MAKE IT TO THE

HOSPITAL, AND SURVIVE THE

ENTIRE EPISODE, ABOUT 70%

OF THEM HAVE SOME SORT OF

NEUROLOGIC IMPAIRMENT

FOLLOWING THE BRAIN

HEMORRHAGE.

Reporter: THE SURGERY

WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT A FEW

DAYS LATER ANNA SUFFERED A

RESTRICTING OF HER BASO

SPASMS.

CONTROLLING THE BASO

SPASM WAS CERTAINLY A RISK

TCHALLENGE FOR THE BABY.

Reporter: DOCTORS

INSERTED A BRAIN TO

RELIEVE THE PRESSURE AND

TREAT THE BASO SPASM.

NATE SAYS GOD GAVE HIM A

SIGN OF ENCOURAGEMENT.

I COME HOME, AND WE HAD

A PEACE OF MAIL.

THERE WAS A DADDY'S HAND

AND A LITTLE BABY'S

HAND-HOLDING ON.

A LITTLE CHILD GRASPING AT

THEIR DADDY'S HAND.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I

FELT THROUGH THE ENTIRE

EVENT.

THERE WAS A BIBLE VERSE

ABOUT NOT FEARING AND GOD

HAS IT TAKEN CARE OF.

GOD JUST SAID, HEY, I'M

HERE WITH YOU.

Reporter: THE BASO

SPASM SUBSIDED AFTER A

WEEK, BUT ANNA'S BRAIN

PRESSURE HAD BECOME

CRITICAL.

THE PRESSURE IS USUALLY

A 10 OR 15, AND THEY SAID

THAT PRESSURE WAS ELEVATED

TO A 16 TO 20 FOR HOURS.

I SPENT TIME IN PRAYING TO

THE NAME OF JESUS, THE

NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY

OTHER NAME OUT THERE.

JUST PRAYING THAT GOD

WOULD HEAL MY WIFE FULLY

AND COMPLETELY.

AND I SAID, IF YOU'RE

GOING TO HEAL HER

COMPLETELY, I WANT TO SEE

A NUMBER 12 ON THAT

SCREEN.

Reporter: SECONDS

LATER...

IT DROPPED DOWN TO A

12, LONG ENOUGH FOR ME TO

TAKE A PICTURE WITH MY

PHONE.

AND THEN IT WENT BACK UP

TO BETWEEN 16 AND 18.

AND WORDS CAN'T DESCRIBE

THE FEELING THAT I HAD

AFTER THAT.

JUST KNOWING THAT THE

CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE

THAT LITERALLY HOLDS THE

MATTER OF THE UNIVERSE

TOGETHER, THIS HUGE,

POWERFUL GOD, WAS RIGHT

THERE IN THAT ROOM WITH

ME.

Reporter: OVER THE

NEXT FEW DAYS, ANNA'S

BRAIN PRESSURE STABILIZED

AND SHE WAS RELEASED FROM

THE HOSPITAL WITHIN A

WEEK.

THEN ON DECEMBER 30th,

13 WEEKS LATER, ANNA

DELIVERED HUDSON, A

HEALTHY BABY BOY.

HE CAME OUT IN DECEMBER

AT 10 POUNDS, TWO OUNCES.

SO HE WAS JUST A BIG BOY

THIS WHOLE TIME.

EVEN THAT, I THINK THAT IS

JUST GOD'S WAY OF SAYING,

I'VE GOT THIS.

DURING THE ACTUAL BRAIN

SURGERY, THEY WERE

MONITORING HUDSON.

AT ONE POINT THEY THOUGHT

THEY LOST HIS HEATBEAT, SO

THEY RUSHED IN AN

ULTRASOUND AND THEY FOUND

OUT THE REASON THEY

COULDN'T HEAR HIS

HEARTBEAT IS BECAUSE IT

WAS PERFECTLY IN SYNC WITH

MINE.

Reporter: THEY KNOW

THAT ANNA'S SURVIVAL AND

HUDSON'S ARE A DIRECT

RESULT TO THE POWER OF

PRAYER.

FOR HER AND THE BABY TO

APPEAR THAT NOTHING HAS

HAPPENED IS PRETTY

MIRACULOUS.

PRAYER TRULY DOES WORK.

I DON'T DOUBT THAT

EVERYONE'S PRAYER HAD A

DIRECT IMPACT ON HOW I

TURNED OUT AND HOW

COMPLETELY HEALED I AM.

JUST KNOWING THAT HE HEARS

AND HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT BY

US IS SO COMFORTING.

Gordon: IN HIM WE

LIVE AND MOVE AND HAVE OUR

BEING.

WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE CAN UNDERSTAND, YEAH, I

KNOW THAT'S IN THE BIBLE.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT

HOSPITAL ROOM AND YOU'RE

HOLDING ON FOR LIFE, DO

YOU KNOW THAT?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

AND HERE WAS A MOMENT

WHERE HE IS PRAYING AND HE

IS SAYING, LORD, I

BELIEVE, BUT IT WOULD BE

REALLY NICE IF 12 CAME UP

ON THAT SCREEN.

AND THEN I WOULD KNOW THAT

YOU ARE HEALING HER.

ISN'T IT WONDERFUL?

THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE

SAYS, OKAY, I'LL SHOW YOU

A NUMBER 12.

I'LL GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER

12 TO LET YOU KNOW THAT

I'M WORKING HERE AND I'M

STILL ON THE THRONE.

AND YOU CAN TRUST ME.

THESE MOMENTS -- THESE

MOMENTS OF TRANSCENDANCE,

WHERE IT GOES BEYOND JUST

WORDS, BUT DEEP IN OUR

SPIRITS WE SAY, YES, GOD

IS AT WORK, AND YOU SEE

THE MIRACLE HAPPEN.

IT TAKES KNOWING IN YOUR

HEART.

"WHEN YOU STAND PRAYING,

BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART" --

NOT IN YOUR MIND BUT IN

YOUR HEART -- "THAT YOU

HAVE WHAT YOU'RE PRAYING

FOR, THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY

RECEIVED IT, AND THEN YOU

WILL HAVE IT."

FOR THAT MIRACLE, ONCE

THAT 12 CAME ON THE

SCREEN, BELIEF IN THE

HEART BECAME VERY EASY.

AND THAT IS WHAT LED TO

THAT MIRACLE.

IF YOU NEED HELP, IF YOU

NEED HEALING, IF YOU NEED

PRAYER, WE'RE HERE FOR

YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK

UP THE PHONE AND CALL US:

1-800-700-7000.

AND IF YOU NEED HELP WITH

FAITH, I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE

TO DOUBT YOUR DOUBTS AND

FIGHT THAT GOOD FIGHT OF

FAITH, WHERE YOU'RE NO

LONGER GOVERNED BY WHAT

YOUR SENSES ARE TELLING

YOU.

YOU'RE SAYING, GOD, I WANT

A REVELATION FROM YOU.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU'RE AT

WORK.

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

US.

> STILL TO COME, SHE LED

BIBLE STUDIES ON CAPITOL

HILL AND HOLLYWOOD, BUT A

TRAGEDY NEARLY SHATTERED

HER FAITH.

PASTOR TRACY WILDE SHARES

HER STORY RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Gordon: TRACY WILDE

THOUGHT SHE HAD MET THE

MAN OF HER DREAMS.

THEY TALKED OF MARRIAGE

AND DECIDED ON A WEDDING

DATE, BUT FOUR DAYS LATER

EVERYTHING CHANGED.

Reporter: TRACY WILDE

LED BIBLE STUDIES FOR

CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS ON

CAPITOL HILL.

BUT 10 YEARS AGO, HER

FAITH WAS SHAKEN TO THE

CORE WHEN HER BOYFRIEND

UNEXPECTANTLY PASSED AWAY.

TRACY REALIZED SHE NEEDED

SOMEONE TO REACH OUT TO

HER, AND YET VERY FEW DID.

IN HER BOOK, "FINDING THE

LOST ART OF EMPATHY,"

TRACY INSPIRES US TO USE

WHAT WE LEARN FROM OUR

PAIN TO HELP OTHERS, AND

OFFERS TIPS ON CONNECTING

WITH PEOPLE IN A

DISCONNECTED WORLD.

Gordon: TRACY IS

JOINING US FOR MORE ON HER

STORY.

HERE YOU ARE, YOU JUST

DECIDED TO GET MARRIED.

AND THEN FOUR DAYS LATER,

TRAGEDY HAPPENS.

WHAT HAPPENED?

YEAH.

IT WAS AN UNEXPECTED

DEATH.

AND I HAD DRIVEN HIM TO

THE AIRPORT AND SAID

GOOD-BYE, EVEN THOUGH THAT

DAY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WE

WERE GOING TO GET MARRIED

THE FOLLOWING MAY.

IT SHOULD BE THE HAPPIEST

DAY, I SHOULD BE SO

EXCITED, AND THEN JUST A

FEW DAYS LATER HE LIFE WAS

TAKEN.

AND THAT WAS HARD TO

WRESTLE WITH, FROM EVERY

PERSPECTIVE, FROM A

THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE,

FROM A GIRL GROWING UP IN

CHURCH, AND I WAS

FOLLOWING JESUS AND

THOUGHT I WAS DOING

RELATIONSHIPS THE RIGHT

WAY, AND IN A MOMENT --

Gordon: EVERYTHING

SHOULD TURN OUT RIGHT AND

AS I PLANNED.

YES.

AND I THINK THAT IS A

STRUGGLE WITH A LOT OF

BELIEVERS.

THAT WHEN TRAGEDY OR PAIN

HAPPENS, WE TEND TO LOOK

AT THOSE SITUATIONS AND

GET FRUSTRATED AT GOD OR

LOSE A LOT OF OUR HOPE.

I REMEMBER THE FIRST

PRAYER I PRAYED WHEN I WAS

ABLE TO MUSTER UP PRAYER

WAS THIS: GOD, BRING

PURPOSE FROM THIS PAIN AND

HELP ME NOT GET MAD AT

YOU.

BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS EASY

TO START TO BLAME GOD.

Gordon: YOU WERE,

WEREN'T YOU?

YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU'RE PRAYING THAT, IT

MIGHT BE AN INDICATION.

I WAS ON THAT TRACK,

FOR SURE.

Gordon: DID YOU ASK

GOD WHY?

SURE.

WHO DOESN'T ASK WHY IN

THOSE PAINFUL MOMENTS?

I THINK GOD'S RESPONSE TO

ME ALWAYS WAS JUST LOVE,

HIM SURROUNDING ME, BEING

THERE FOR ME.

I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAVE

THE ANSWERS TO THE WHYs

OF OUR LIFE.

AND AS A BELIEVER, ONCE

AGAIN, THAT'S THE

THEOLOGICAL DILEMMA: HOW

DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO

PEOPLE WHO ARE FOLLOWING

JESUS?

WE'RE THE RIGHTEOUS,

RIGHT?

Gordon: JESUS

PROMISES, IT WILL.

IT WILL, BUT TAKE

HEART, HE HAS OVERCOME THE

WORLD.

AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT

THE PATH LED ME TO, REALLY

DISCOVERING THAT GOD IS A

LOT BIGGER THAN MY

PERSPECTIVE.

AND THAT IN THE MIDST OF

PAIN, IT CAN BURST --

Gordon: DID IT MAKE

YOU WORSE THAT YOU DIDN'T

KNOW?

THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HE

WAS GOING TO DIE?

Gordon: YEAH.

YES AND NO.

BUT I FEEL LIKE GOD

PREPARED HE.

BECAUSE WHEN I SAID, YES,

LET'S GET MARRIED, I HAD

THIS FEELING FOR SOME

REASON, THAT I STILL CAN'T

COMPLAIN -- I REMEMBER

DROPPING HIM OFF AT THE

AIRPORT, THINKING I JUST

SAID I WAS GOING TO MARRY

THIS MAN, BUT I FELT IT

NEVER WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND I THINK LOOKING BACK

THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS SORT

OF PREPARING ME IN A WAY.

Gordon: YOU'RE GOING

ON A JOURNEY.

YUP.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT

YOUR BOOK IS THAT IT TELLS

US ALL WHAT TO DO AS

FRIENDS TO SOMEONE WHO HAS

SUFFERED AN INCREDIBLE

LOSS.

LET'S GO THROUGH, I GUESS,

THE BAD THINGS.

DID SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SAY

TO YOU, IT'S BETTER THAT

THIS HAPPENED BEFORE YOU

WERE MARRIED AND YOU HAD

KIDS?

YES.

ABSOLUTELY.

I GOT A LOT OF DOOZIES.

PEOPLE WOULD SAY, AT

LEAST YOU WEREN'T MARRIED

AND HAD KIDS, BECAUSE THAT

WOULD BE REALLY HARD.

AND I'M IN THE MIDST OF MY

PAIN THINKING, WELL, THIS

IS REALLY HARD.

I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGHT

AGAINST THAT FOR PEOPLE

WHO ARE WALKING ALONGSIDE

THOSE OF OUR FRIENDS AND

FAMILY WHO ARE STRUGGLING,

NOT TO TRY TO GIVE AN

ANSWER FOR PAIN.

I DIDN'T NEED ANSWERS.

I NEEDED COMFORT.

I DIDN'T NEED PEOPLE TO

TRY TO EXPLAIN IT AWAY.

I THINK IT WAS THEIR

ATTEMPT TO BE THERE, BUT

IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE

RIGHT THING TO SAY.

IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SAY,

I CAN'T IMAGINE GOING

THROUGH THIS, BUT I'M WITH

YOU AND I LOVE YOU AND I'M

PRAYING FOR YOU.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU

NEED, CALL ME.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A

BETTER RESPONSE IN MY NEED

AND OUR NEED, REALLY.

Gordon: DID YOU FIND

THAT SOME PEOPLE AVOIDED

YOU?

YES.

THAT WAS REALLY HARD.

I THINK THAT WAS HARDER.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE AFRAID

TO SAY THE WRONG THING SO

A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T

SAY ANYTHING.

WE'VE ALL BEEN IN THAT

SITUATION.

IT WAS AN AWKWARD

SITUATION.

IT WAS A SUDDEN DEATH.

PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO.

I'M THE PASTOR'S DAUGHTER

OF THE CHURCH, SORT OF THE

MASCOT OF THE CHURCH.

Gordon: YOU'RE

SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING US.

YEAH.

AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT

TO DO.

I REMEMBER WALKING DOWN

THE HALL OF THE CHURCH,

AND PEOPLE WHO KNEW ME MY

WHOLE LIFE WALKED RIGHT BY

ME AND DIDN'T MAKE EYE

CONTACT BECAUSE THEY

DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

WE FORGET WE NEED TO BE

THERE FOR PEOPLE.

Gordon: WHAT SHOULD

THEY HAVE SAID?

ALL THEY WOULD HAVE

NEEDED TO SAY IS I'M SORRY

AND I'M HERE FOR YOU AND

GIVE ME A HUG.

I KNEW PEOPLE COULDN'T

GIVE ME THE ANSWER FOR MY

PAIN, BUT I CERTAINLY

DIDN'T FEEL LIKE BEING

ALONE.

AND I FELT LIKE I WAS

DROWNING IN ISOLATION --

Gordon: YOU DIDN'T

WANT TO BE CUT OFF.

YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE

PARIAH.

LET ME KNOW YOU SEE MY

PAIN.

Gordon: I'M RIGHT

HERE, I'M RIGHT IN FRONT

OF YOU.

I'M NOT INVISIBLE.

Gordon: LET ME KNOW.

AND JUST LET ME KNOW YOU

CARE.

YUP.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: YOU SAY THERE

IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

EMPATHY AND SYMPATHY.

WHAT IS THAT?

UH-HUH.

I THINK SYMPATHY IS GREAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE

SYMPATHY.

WE NEED TO SEND PEOPLE A

SYMPATHY KA CARD.

CARD.

WE NEED TO SEND THEM A

TEXT AND FLOWERS.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE

GREAT THINGS.

BUT EMPATHY IS, I THINK,

MORE ACTION.

IT IS LOVE AND ACTION.

IT IS TAKING SYMPATHY AND

WORKING THROUGH IT IN MORE

TANGIBLE WAYS.

IT IS GETTING INSIDE

SOMEONE ELSE'S WORLD AND

IN THEIR PAIN AND IT IS

STAYING THERE.

I'M GOING TO STAY WITH YOU

AT THE HOSPITAL WHILE

YOU'RE WAITING FOR THAT

DOCTOR'S REPORT.

I'M GOING TO HOLD YOUR

HAND AND TALK TO YOU AND

PRAY WITH YOU.

WHEN YOU GET THE GOOD OR

BAD DIAGNOSIS, I'M GOING

TO WALK THIS OUT WITH YOU.

SYMPATHY IS MORE LIKE I'M

GOING TO SAY SOMETHING

REALLY QUICK BECAUSE IT

MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.

I WAS KIND TO SOMEONE

TODAY.

BUT EMPATHY DOESN'T STOP

THERE.

IT KEEPS GOING.

Gordon: THE BOOK IS

CALLED "FINDING THE LOST

ART OF EMPATHY," AND IT'S

AVAILABLE IN STORES

NATIONWIDE.

AND, TRACY, THANKS FOR THE

BOOK.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: HERE IS A

WORD FOR YOU: "SHARE EACH

OTHER'S BURDENS, AND IN

THIS WAY OBEY THE LAW OF

CHRIST."

IF YOU THINK YOU'RE TOO

IMPORTANT TO HELP SOMEONE,

YOU'RE ONLY FOOLING

YOURSELF.

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