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700 Club Interactive - August 1, 2017

Dream City Church pastor Luke Barnett shares how we can become wide-eyed visionary dream chasers and live our God-sized dreams. Read Transcript


I JUST WANTED MY FATHER

TO LOVE ME.

THAT'S ALL.

I WANTED MY FATHER TO LOVE

ME.

Andrew: A MAN'S WISH

FOR HIS FATHER'S LOVE AND

ACCEPTANCE TAKES A WRONG

TURN.

AS SOON AS I GOT UP,

AFTER INHALING THIS DRUG,

I LOOKED AT HIM, AND I

SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT

THAT WAS, BUT I HAVE A NEW

HABIT.

Andrew: FIND OUT HOW

A RELATIONSHIP WAS

RESTORED FROM THE FLOOR OF

HIS JAIL CELL.

ALL OF THAT AND MORE ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME

TO THE SHOW.

CBN'S "ORPHANS' PROMISE"

SERVES ORPHANED AND

VULNERABLE CHILDREN AROUND

THE WORLD, TAKING THEM

FROM AT RISK TO THRIVING

THROUGH THE TRANSFORMING

POWER OF GOD'S LOVE.

OUR OWN TERRY MEEUWSEN

RECENTLY RETURNED FROM A

TRIP TO KENYA, NAIROBI.

Terry: IT WAS A TRIP

OF A LIFE.

OF COURSE, THERE IS THE

BEAUTY OF AFRICA AND ITS

PEOPLE, BUT SEEING THAT

THIS IS A LITTLE CHILD IN

THE MESAI VILLAGE, AND

WHEN WE CAME TWO YEARS

AGO, THEY HAD JUST ALL OF

THE CHILDREN IN ONE

CLASSROOM, AND TODAY THEY

HAVE THREE CLASSROOMS AND

ALMOST FOUR COMPLETED.

WE ACTUALLY WERE IN OPEN

VEHICLES WHERE, YOU KNOW,

YOU COULD REACH OUT AND

ALMOST TOUCH THESE

ANIMALS.

Andrew: AND DID YOU

DO SO?

Terry: NO.

I KEPT MY HANDS INSIDE,

JUST LIKE THEY TOLD ME TO.

Andrew: LOOK AT THE

SMILES.

JUST GORGEOUS.

Terry: THESE KIDS ARE

IN NAIROBI, AT A CHURCH,

IN A CHILDREN'S HOME THAT

WE SUPPORT.

BEAUTIFUL KIDS, FROM SUCH

DIFFICULT BACKGROUNDS.

YET THE MILES ON THEIR

FACES BECAUSE THEY

UNDERSTAND WHO JESUS IS.

YOU SEE THEM SMILING

BECAUSE THEY WERE SINGING.

WE JUST DID A PROJECT,

CALLED "THE FREEDOM

PROJECT," AND ALL OF THE

MONIES GO RIGHT INTO THE

WORK OF CHILDREN'S LIVES

IN KENYA.

Andrew: THANK YOU FOR

ALL "ORPHANS' PROMISE" IS

DOING.

Terri: THANK YOU,

ANDREW.

IT IS A GREAT TREAT.

ALL OF YOU WHO SUPPORT US,

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

YOU ARE MAKING A RADICAL

DIFFERENCE.

Andrew: YOU'RE FROM

WISCONSIN, OF COURSE, AND

WISCONSIN IS IN THE NEWS.

HOW IS THAT FOR A SEGUE?

THIS STORY SOUNDS LIKE

BIBLICAL PROPHECY.

THREE QUAR MARKE SQUARE MARKET IN

RIVER FALLS IS OFFERING

MICROCHIP IMPLANTTATIONS

TO EMPLOYEES AUGUST 1st.

Terry: THEY CAN MAKE

PURCHASES IN THEIR BREAK

ROOM, OPEN DOORS, USE THE

COPY MACHINE -- AND IT

SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN'T DO

WITHOUT IT.

THREE SQUARES SAYS

EVENTUALLY IT WILL ALLOW

YOU TO USE THIS AS YOUR

TRANSPORT AND PUBLIC

PURCHASES, ETC.

THEY ASSURE THERE IS NO

G.P.S. TRACKING INSTALLED

ON THE DEVICE, AND

ESTIMATES THAT 50

EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE

VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT

MICRO.

MICROCHIP SORT DISCOVERY.

Andrew: SOME PEOPLE

IT LEADS THEM TO CONSIDER

REVELATION 13: 17, ABOUT

THE MARK OF THE BEAST.

AND IT WOULD BE ON THE

HAND OR THE FOREHEAD.

AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED,

IS THIS A SIGN OF THE END

TIMES?

Terry: EVERYTHING IS

MOVING FASTER, AND THIS IS

CERTAINLY TAKING US TO A

PLACE WHERE IF YOU DON'T

HAVE IT ONE DAY, YOU MIGHT

NOT BE ABLE TO BUY AND

SELL.

> A LOS ANGELES PASTOR,

HUSBAND, AND FATHER OF HIS

TWO IS SEPARATED FROM HIS

FAMILY TODAY, AND HE FACES

DEPORTATION.

HE HAS COME TO THE UNITED

STATES ILLEGALLY FROM

GUATEMALA AS A

13-YEAR-OLD.

FOUR YEARS LATER, HE

MARRIED VICTORIA, WHO IS

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND

THE TWO BEGAN A FAMILY.

THE COUPLE NOW HAVE TWO

CHILDREN, AGES FIVE AND

SEVEN.

Andrew: COMMUNITY

LEADERS AND FAMILIES

PROTESTED THE DEPORTATION.

THE PASTOR OF THE

COMMUNITY SAID, I KNOW

THIS MAN FOR MANY YEARS.

THE FAMILY FRIEND CREATED

A GOFUNDME PAGE, AND HOPES

OF RAISING MONEY FOR THE

UPCOMING BATTLE.

A LOT OF TIMES WE MAKE

PLIT STATEMENTS, DO NOT

DEPORT.

OF COURSE NEWS ITEMS LIKE

THIS BRING A REAL

PERSONAL, INDIVIDUAL

STORY, HOW LIVES ARE

AFFECTED, AND CHILDREN ARE

AFFECTED, AND IN THIS

CASE, AN ENTIRE CHURCH

BODY.

Terry: I THOUGHT IF

YOU CAME INTO THE

COUNTRY -- MAYBE THE ISSUE

IS THAT IT WAS ILLEGALLY,

BUT IF YOU CAME INTO THIS

COUNTRY, WERE NOT A

CITIZEN, AND YOU MARRIED A

CITIZEN, AUTOMATICALLY IT

QUALIFIED YOU FOR

CITIZENSHIP.

Andrew: THERE SEEMS

TO BE A DEBATE ABOUT THIS

PARTICULAR ONE.

AND I THINK THE SURPRISE

WAS, ARE THESE THE

ILLEGALS WE WERE REALLY

GOING TO BE GOING AFTER?

IT IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

> PARENTS, BEWARE OF A

DEADLY GAME.

THE BLUE WHALE CHALLENGE

IS DESCRIBED AS A SHADOWY

ONLINE PHENOMENA, AND IT

MANIPULATES YOUNG MINDS.

LAST WEEK THE GAME'S

CREATOR WAS CONVICTED BY A

SIBERIAN COURT FOR

PERSUADING UP TO 17 TEEN

GIRLS TO TAKE THEIR LIVES.

Terry: THEY SAID

THIS, "THERE ARE PEOPLE

OUT THERE WHO ARE TRYING

TO TWIST AND MANIPULATE

THE MINDS OF CHILDREN AND

TEENS."

HE GOES ON TO SAY,

THANKFULLY THE SADISTIC 22

CREATOR OF THIS GAME WAS

ARRESTED.

PARENTS, BE INVOLVED, MAKE

SURE YOUR CHILDREN ARE

PROTECTED FROM EVIL

PREDATORS LIKE THIS.

Andrew: IT IS CALLED

THE BLUE WHALE CHALLENGE

BECAUSE BLUE WHALES HAVE A

TENDENCY TO DE BEACH

THEMSELVES PRIOR TO DEATH.

IT STARTS WITH GETTING UP

AT ODD HOURS, AND THEN IT

MOVES INTO THINGS LIKE

CUTTING.

Terry: IT IS VERY

DELIBERATE IN ITS INTENT.

Andrew: THE REALLY

SAD PART, OF COURSE

BESIDES THESE SUICIDES, IS

FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE

INDICATED THEY NOTICED

INDICATIONS OF THEIR LOVED

ONES BEING INVOLVED BUT

DIDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

ENOUGH.

Terry: YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY HARD,

ALSO, AND I HAVE MERCY FOR

PARENTS HERE, BUT WE NEED

TO MOVE BEYOND THAT

BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO STAY

ON TOP OF THIS.

THINGS ARE CHANGING

TECHNOLOGY-WISE.

YOU HAVE NO KNOW EVERY DAY

WHAT'S GOING ON, AND

SOMETIMES THAT'S HARD, IF

YOU HAVEN'T STARTED FROM

THE BEGINNING WITH THAT.

BUT GET IN IT.

Andrew: WE CANNOT

HAVE OUR HEADS BURIED IN

THE SAND.

UP NEXT, PASTOR LUKE

BARBARNETT IS HERE, AND HE IS

HELPING PEOPLE DISCOVER

GOD'S PLANS FOR THEIR

LIVES BY WAKING THEM UP TO

BIGGER DREAMS.

DON'T GO AWAY.

WE'LL TELL YOU HOW TO

DISCOVER YOURS.

Terry: YOU KNOW, ONE

OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE

AS CHRISTIANS IS REALIZING

THAT GOD HAS SPECIFIC AND

AMAZING PLANS FOR US.

WELL, PASTOR LUKE BARNETT

LOVES PEOPLE FIND THEIR

GOD-GIVEN PASSIONS AND

PURPOSE, AND LUKE

UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGE

BECAUSE HE ONCE QUESTIONED

HIS OWN DIRECTION.

Reporter: LUKE

BARNETT IS THE OLDEST SON

OF MEGA PASTOR TOMMY

BARNETT, BUT HE HAD NO

DESIRE TO FOLLOW IN HIS

DAD'S FOOTSTEPS.

HE WANTED TO PLAY GULF.

ALTHOUGH HA HE TRAVELLED

AROUND THE WORLD PLAYING

THE SPORT HE LOVED, HE

FELT LIKE HE WAS DYING ON

THE INSIDES.

INSIDE.

HE OFFERS WAYS WE CAN FIND

DIRECTION IN OUR OWN LIVES

IN HIS NEW BOOK.

Terry: PASTOR BARNETT

JOINS US NOW.

WE WELCOME YOU TO "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

THANK YOU.

Terry: THE DREAM GOD

BROUGHT TO YOU -- THAT'S

NOT ORIGINALLY WHAT YOU

THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE

DOING.

YOU WANTED TO BE A GOLFER?

YEAH.

THAT WAS MY CHILDHOOD

DREAM GROWING UP, AND I

PURSUED IT.

I BECAME KIND OF A LOCAL

PRO, DOING THE MINI TOURS

IN ARIZONA.

Terry: SURE.

BUT THAT IS A PRETTY

COMPETITIVE FIELD OUT

THERE.

AND ONE DAY MY DAD ASKED

ME A QUESTION THAT KIND OF

CHANGED MY LIVES.

HE SAID, IF A PASTOR EVER

CALLS YOU AND ASKS YOU TO

SPEAK AT THEIR CHURCH, I

THINK YOU OUGHT TO DO IT

JUST SO SEE IF THAT'S WHAT

GOD HAS FOR YOU.

I'M A GOLFER, I THOUGHT NO

ONE IS GOING TO ASK ME TO

COME AND SPEAK AT A

CHURCH, BUT I AGREED TO DO

IT IF SOMEONE SHOULD CALL.

TWO WEEKS LATER, A PASTOR

CALLED FROM GOODYEAR

ARIZONA.

HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I

DON'T KNOW YOUR DAD, BUT I

FEEL INSPIRED TO HAVE YOU

COME PREACHER AT OUR

CHURCH.

Terry: OUT OF THE

BLUE.

YES.

AND I, OF COURSE, ACCUSED

MY FATHER OF SETTING IT

UP.

AND HE SAID, I DIDN'T SET

IT UP, BUT YOU SAID IF GOD

OPENED THE DOOR, YOU WOULD

GO THROUGH IT.

Terry: HOW DID THAT

GO FOR YOU?

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO, SO I TOOK ONE OF MY

DAD'S SERMONS.

AND I STAMMERED AND

STUMBLED.

BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE

ALTER CALL, THAT WAS VERY

NATURAL, AND I FELT THE

POWER OF GOD UPON MY LIFE

DURING THAT MOMENT.

I GAVE THE INVITATION, AND

A WOMAN CAME FORWARD AND

ACCEPTED GOD, AND THAT

CHANGED MY LIFE.

I THOUGHT, THIS IS WHAT I

WANT TO DO THE REST OF MY

LIFE.

Terry: HOW DO YOU

BEGIN TO MOVE INTO THAT

BECAUSE PRAYER PLAYED INTO

IT.

WHAT DID YOU DO?

WELL, I BECAME A

PASTOR.

I TRAVELLED FOR A FEW

YEARS AS AN EVANGELIST.

I BECAME A PASTOR OF TWO

CHURCHES.

KIND OF GETTING MY FEET

WET A LITTLE BIT, YOU

KNOW.

WHEN I PASTORED THOSE

CHURCHES, I JUST DID

EVERYTHING I WATCHED MY

DAD DO GROWING UP IN THE

CHURCH.

I CALL IT LIVING ON A

SECONDHAND REVELATION.

AND GOD BLESTLED IT.

BLESSED IT.

AND THE CHURCHES GREW BY

ADDITION.

I WONDERED WHY THE

CHURCHES DIDN'T EXPERIENCE

THAT SUPER NATURAL SURGE.

AND SO IN 2013, MY DAD

PASSED THE BATON OF

PHOENIX FIRST ASSEMBLY ON

TO ME.

AND WHEN I GOT THAT BATON

IN MY HAND, IMMEDIATELY I

FELT THIS DEPRESSION, OR

PRESSURE, KIND OF FALL

UPON ME.

I KNEW IN MY HEART I

DIDN'T HAVE A GOD-SIZED

FUTURDREAM FOR THE FUTURE OF

THAT CHURCH.

SO I DID THE ONLY THING I

KNEW HOW TO DO.

I WENT UP ON THE SIDE OF

THE MOUNTAIN BEHIND THE

CHURCH, AND I WENT ON A

40-DAY DANIEL FAST, AND

ATE NOTHING BUT BIRD SEED

AND LEAVES AND TWIGS, AND

I FELT THE HUNGER DURING

THAT TIME.

I WANTED GOD'S DREAM MORE

THAN I WANTED FOOD DURING

THAT TIME.

I KNEW I COULD NOT PASTOR

THAT CHURCH WITHOUT GOD'S

GUIDANCE.

Terry: YOU WERE

DESPERATE.

I WAS DESPERATE.

I FOUND OUT DURING THAT

TIME, IN 2013, THAT OUR

CHURCH WAS 90 YEARS OLD,

AND WE WOULD BE 100 YEARS

OLD IN 2023.

AND I SAID, GOD, WHAT DO

YOU WANT OUR CHURCH TO

LOOK LIKE IN 2023.

AND GOD DOWNLOADED A

FIVE-PRONG DREAM.

WE ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN

THE ARTS IN OUR CITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WAS HE

SAID YOU'RE GEIGE GOING TO

REDEEM THE ARTS AND BRING

THE ARTS BACK TO THE

CHURCH.

FOR OUR CHRISTMAS

PRODUCTION, WE HAVE 17

PERFORMANCES AND 75,000

PEOPLE.

Terry: GOOD GRIEF.

SO WE WERE ALREADY GOOD

AT THAT.

BUT HE SAID YOU'RE GOING

TOB THTO BE THE ARTS HUB OF

ARIZONA.

IT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT

HERE IN PHOENIX.

FROM THAT TIME ON, WE DO A

SUMMER MUSICAL.

WE JUST FINISHED "THE

LITTLE MERMAID," AND WE

SOLD 7500 TICKETS.

IT IS THE BIGGEST THING

GOING IN TOWN.

SO IT'S A BRIDGE TO THE

ARTS COMMUNITY ALL AROUND

US.

AND THEY COME AND THEY

PERFORM.

THEY MED PEOPLE AN MEET PEOPLE AND THEY

FIND UP FINDING THE LORD.

THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE

THINGS.

ANOTHER THING WE ARE GOING

TO BE A MULTI-SITE CAMPUS.

WE HAVE THE MOST GORGEOUS

CAMPUS.

BUT FROM THAT POINT ON

WORD, WE OPENED THREE MORE

CAMPUSES IN THE PAST THREE

AND A HALF YEARS.

Terry: THAT IS HUGE

RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

SO OUR DREAM IN THE NEXT

20 YEARS IS TO PLAN A

CAMPUS IN EVERY CITY OF

ARIZONA, AND TO WRAP THE

WHOLE STATE IN THE WEB OF

GOD'S LOVE, YOU KNOW.

Terry: IN TRUTH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING

THAT SEEMS SO MISSING IN

OUR CULTURE TODAY.

IT REALLY IS OUR

RESPONSIBILITY, WHEN WE

KNOW WHAT THAT IS, TO

INTEGRATE INTO GOD'S

CREATION.

SO FOR YOU, PERSONALLY, AS

YOU WROTE THIS BOOK -- I

WANT TO MENTION THERE IS

AN AMAZING BOOK HE HAS

WRITTEN.

"THE DREAM CENTERED LIFE:

DISCOVERING WHAT DRIVES

YOU."

WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO

TAKE AWAY FROM THE BOOK

WHEN THEY READ IT?

THE MOST IMPORTANT

THING I WANT PEOPLE TO

KNOW IS GOD HAS A DREAM

FOR THEIR LIFE A GOD-SIZED

DREAM.

THE MOST FULFILLED A

PERSON WILL BE IN THEIR

LIFE IS WHEN THEY, FIRST

OF ALL, BELIEVE THAT GOD

HAS A DREAM FOR THEIR

LIVES.

AND THEN I THINK YOU HAVE

TO BE STILL LONG ENOUGH TO

ACTUALLY HEAR THOSE

PROMPTINGS AND LEADINGS

FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT IN

YOUR LIFE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE

AWARE.

SO IT IS ABOUT BELIEVING

AND BEING STILL LONG

ENOUGH, AND THEN BEING

AWARE OF THE PROMPTINGS

AND THE LETEING LEADINGS OF GOD

ALL THROUGHOUT YOUR DAY.

THE THING I WANT PEOPLE TO

REALLY UNDERSTAND IS THE

MOST FULFILLED THEY'LL

EVER BE IN YOUR LIFE IS

WHEN THEY FIND GOD'S DREAM

AND THEY LIVE IT OUT

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL

OF THE FUN BEGINS.

THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE

ADVENTURE BEGINS.

A FEW MONTHS AGO, I WAS

TALKING TO MY DAD, AND I'M

OUT THERE ON THE LIMB

BECAUSE WE'RE GOT FOUR

CAMPUSES.

AND I'M FORGETTIN FORGIVING THINGS

OUT AS WE GO ALONG.

AND MY DAD SAID, LOOK AT

YOU, LUKE, YOU'RE LIVING

THE DREAM.

THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE

EXCITEMENT IS, ON THE

EDGE.

THAT IS WHERE THE

MIRACULOUS TAKES PLACE.

WHEN YOU RECEIVE GOD'S

DREAM IT IS NOT THE

PROMISE OF AN EASIER LIFE,

BUT A FULFILLING LIFE.

Terry: AND YOU NEED

TO REALIZE THAT IT ALL

DEPENDS ON GOD.

HE IS JUST ASKING US TO

STAY CLOSE TO HIM.

AND HE'LL RUN IN FRONT OF

US, IF BE JUST FOLLOW HIM.

THAT NEVER ENDS.

THE BRANCH YOU'RE ON NOW

IS NOT THE BRANCH YOU'RE

GOING TO BE ON NEXT YEAR.

I HATE TO TELL YOU THAT.

THAT'S TRUE.

THAT REMINDS ME WHAT MY

DAD -- HE IS 80 YEARS OLD,

AND SEEING DR. ROBERTSON

HERE TODAY REMINDED ME,

AND I SAID, DAD, WHY DO

YOU KEEP GOING.

YOU'RE 80 YEARS OLD AND

YOU COULD JUST PLAY GOLF

EVERY DAY.

HE SAID, THE REASON WHY I

DON'T GIVE UP AND I KEEP

GOING IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE

GOD WILL USE MY LIFE TO DO

ONE MORE GREAT THING ON

PLANET EARTH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

BUT MAYBE I HAVEN'T REACH

MY "FOR SUCH A TIME AS

THIS" MOMENT YET.

Terry: I BELIEVE HIM.

I BELIEVE GOD IS USING US

AND SPEAKING TO US UNTIL

THE MOMENT WE SLIP INTO

HEAVEN.

WELL, YOU'RE DOING A

WONDERFUL WORK OUT IN

ARIZONA.

THANK YOU.

Terry: I WANT TO

MENTION THE BOOK AGAIN

BECAUSE IT IS A BOOK FOR

ALL OF US.

IT IS CALLED "THE

DREAM-CENTERED LIFE."

TO FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN

PRE-ORDER A COPY, JUST GO

TO cbn.com.DISCOVERING

DISCOVERING WHAT DRIVES

YOU.

IT IS WELL WORTH THE READ.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

Andrew: UP NEXT, ALL

HE WANTED WAS FOR HIS

FATHER TO LOVE AND TO

NOTICE HIM.

I FOUND AN AVENUE THAT

HAS US CONNECTED.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST

TIME THAT I REALLY EVER

FELT LIKE MY FATHER LOVED

ME.

Andrew: WE'RE GOING

TO FIND OUT HOW THAT

CONNECTION LED HIM DOWN A

PATH OF THEFT AND

ADDICTION, WHEN WE RETURN.

Andrew: LIKE FATHER,

LIKE SON.

HE FIRST GRABBED THE

ATTENTION OF HIS DAD, A

PROFESSIONAL THIEF, WHEN

HE WAS CAUGHT STEALING AS

A BOY.

FROM THAT POINT ON, HIS

FATHER SHOWED HIM THE INS

AND OUTS OF HIS TRADE.

YEARS OF STEALING AND DRUG

ADDICTION FOLLOWED, UNTIL

NEIL HIT ROCK BOTTOM ON

THE FLOOR OF A JAIL CELL.

I WAS TOLD HOW MUCH

POTENTIAL I HAD.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO STEAL,

LET ME TEACH YOU HOW TO

STEAL BECAUSE, KID, I'M

EITHER GOING TO SHOW YOU

DIAMONDS OR I'M GOING TO

SHOW YOU BARS.

Reporter: NEIL ROSAMA

REMEMBERS THE TIME HE GOT

CALL STEALING WHEN HAY WAS

EIGHT.

IT WAS THE SAME DAY HIS

DAD, A PROFESSIONAL THIEF,

FINALLY GAVE HIM SOME

ATTENTION.

I FOUND A WAY, AN

AVENUE.

THIS MAKES HIM HAPPY.

THIS HAS US CONNECTED.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST

TIME THAT I REALLY EVER

FELT LIKE MY FATHER LOVED

ME.

Reporter: OVER THE

NEXT DECADE, HE FOLLOWED

HIS DAD'S LEAD, FOLLOWING

THE INS AND OUTS OF BEING

A THIEF.

WHILE IT GAVE HIM TIME

WITH HIS FATHER, IT CAME

AT A PRICE.

I ALWAYS KNEW FROM THE

BEGINNING THAT IT WAS

WRONG.

AND I WAS NEVER HAPPY DEEP

DOWN INSIDE WITH THE

PERSON THAT I BECAME.

I JUST WANTED MY FATHER TO

LOVE ME.

THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL I'VE EVER

WANTED.

I JUST WANTED MY FATHER TO

LOVE ME.

Reporter: NEIL

STARTED USING POT,

COCAINE, AND OTHER DRUGS,

BUT NOTHING KILLED THE

PAIN.

THEN A FRIEND INTRODUCED

HIM TO HEROIN.

AS SOON AS I GOT UP

AFTER INHALING THIS DRUG,

I LOOKED AT HIM, AND I

SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

THAT WAS, BUT I HAVE A NEW

HABIT.

I IMMEDIATELY FELT PEACE.

I FELT CALM.

I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T CARE.

I NEVER WANTED TO QUIT

THIS.

NEVER.

Reporter: FOR THE

NEXT SEVEN YEARS NEIL

SUPPORTED HIS ADDICTION BY

WORKING IN BARS AND

STEALING, WHICH LANDED HIM

IN JAIL ON SEVERAL

OCCASIONS.

DURING THAT TIME HE

SUFFERED A DEVASTATING

LOSS WHEN HIS FATHER

PASSED AWAY.

BUT THEN HE STARTED DATING

CARRIE, WHO WAS A

CHRISTIAN.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME

TOGETHER, GETTING TO KNOW

EACH OTHER, AND I FELL IN

LOVE WITH HIM, NO

QUESTION.

THE FACT THAT SOMEONE

THIS WONDERFUL WOULD EVEN

WANT TO SPEND TIME WITH A

GUY LIKE ME, THAT BROUGHT

ME HOPE.

THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO

LIVE.

AND THERE IS SOMEONE ON

THIS EARTH THAT MIGHT LOVE

ME.

Reporter: AS MUCH AS

NEIL CARED FOR CARRIE, HE

COULDN'T LET GO OF HIS

ADDICTION AND KEPT IT

HIDDEN FROM HER.

I WANTED TO CHANGE,

EVEN IF IT WAS JUST FOR

HER, BUT I COULDN'T

OVERCOME IT.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

THE TWO GOT ENGAGED, BUT

JUST WEEKS LATER, NEIL WAS

ARRESTED FOR STEALING A

WALLET FROM A GYM LOCKER

AND WAS PUT IN JAIL.

I WAS DEVASTATED TO

KNOW WHEN SHE FINDS OUT

THE TRUTH, SHE'S GOING TO

LEAVE.

AND THE ONE PERSON THAT

LOVED ME, THAT I KNEW

LOVED ME, I WAS GOING TO

LOSE, AND IT WAS BECAUSE

OF ME.

Reporter: WITH NO ONE

TO TURN TO, NEIL CALLED

CURRIE TO POST BOND.

BY NOW SHE HAD TALKED TO A

FRIEND OF NEAL' NEIL 'S, WHO

TOLD HER EVERYTHING.

I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T

WANT TO SEE HIM ANYMORE

AND I ENDED THE

RELATIONSHIP.

I FELT ABSOLUTELY AND

COMPLETELY ALONE.

EVEN IF I HAD THE MONEY TO

BOND OUT THAT DAY, I HAD

NOWHERE TO GO, ABSOLUTELY

NOWHERE TO GO.

Reporter: NEIL

RETURNED TO HIS CELL.

AND FOR THE FIRST TIME

IN MY LIFE, I HAD NEVER

DONE THIS -- I LOOKED UP

AND I SAID, GOD, I'M ALL

ALONE.

I HAVE HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

I HAVE NEVER LEFT.

I CAN'T GIVE ANYMORE.

I'M TIRED OF THIS.

IF YOU'LL HELP ME, IF

YOU'LL PROTECT ME, HELP ME

GET THROUGH THIS, I'LL

FOLLOW YOU FOR THE REST OF

MY LIFE.

NO MATTER WHAT.

I COLLAPSED.

AND I FELL ON THE FLOOR.

AND I COULDN'T MOVE.

AND I COULD FEEL SOMETHING

HOVERING OVER ME.

AND I COULD FEEL THE

WARMTH OF SOMETHING GOING

THROUGH ME.

AND IT FELT LIKE THERE

WERE THINGS INSIDE BEING

MOVED AROUND, THINGS BEING

TAKEN OUT, THINGS BEING

PUT BACK IN, AND THEN ALL

OF A SUDDEN IT WENT

COMPLETELY QUIET.

AND IT TOOK EVERYTHING I

HAD JUST TO CLIMB UP IN MY

BUNK AND PASS OUT.

WHEN I WOKE UP THE NEXT

MORNING AFTER THAT, THE

DESIRE FOR HEROIN WAS

COMPLETELY GONE.

ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS

THAT WERE INSIDE OF ME

WEREN'T THERE ANYMORE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY

LIFE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, I

FELT PEACE, I FELT LOVE.

Reporter: NEIL BEGAN

PRAYING, READING HIS

BIBLE, AND REPENTING FOR

HIS ACTIONS.

A WEEK LATER HE WAS CALLED

TO THE VISITOR ROOM.

THERE WAITING FOR HIM WAS

CARRIE.

I TOLD HIM EVERYTHING

THAT WAS ON MY HEART.

I FELT LIKE GOD HAD SAID

HE WANTED ME TO STAY WITH

HIM AND TO PRAY WITH HIM

AND TO FIGHT FOR HIM.

AND IF HE WAS WILLING TO

DO THE RIGHT THING, I WAS

WILLING TO DO THAT.

GOD DIDN'T HAVE TO DO

THAT.

AND THE FACT HE BROUGHT

THE PERSON I LOVE IN HIS

ENTIRE WORLD BACK TO ME

WAS A DEAL FOR ME.

Reporter: THEY USED

THAT TIME TO GROW WITH

EACH OTHER AND THEIR

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIS

RELEASE IN 2007, THEY

MARRIED.

TODAY NEIL IS AN

OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR ONE

OF THE LARGEST LANDSCAPING

COMPANIES IN ILLINOIS.

BUT HE SAYS HIS MOST

IMPORTANT ROLES ARE AS A

HUSBAND AND FATHER TO

THEIR FOUR CHILDREN.

JESUS NEVER GIVES UP ON

US.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

I DON'T WEAR WHAT YOUR

ADDICTION IS.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE

STRUGGLING WITH, GIVE IT

UP.

DON'T WAIT.

HE LOVES YOU

UNCONDITIONALLY.

Andrew: WELL-SAID,

NEIL.

DID YOU HEAR HIM IN THE

BEGINNING OF THAT STORY

SAYING, HE DIDN'T LIKE THE

PERSON HE HAD BECOME.

I KNOW I WAS IN THAT

PLACE.

WE LOOK AT OUR

CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHO WE

ARE AND SAY, HOW DID I GET

HERE?

HOW DID I MAKE THESE

DECISIONS?

THE APOSTLE PAUL TALKS OF

IT AS BEING DEAD IN OUR

SIN AS WE PURSUE THE

THINGS OF THE FLESH, THE

LUST OF THE FLESH, OR IN

THE WAYS OF THE WORLD, WE

BECOME DEAD.

HE CALLS IT DEAD IN OUR

SIN.

YET BECAUSE OF THE GRACE

OF GOD, PAUL SAYS -- PAUL

SAYS, BUT, GOD SAVES US

AND MAKES US ALIVE IN

CHRIST, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE

DEAD IN OUR SIN.

SO YOU, TODAY, IF YOU'RE

IN THAT PLACE OF BEING

DEAD IN YOUR SIN, YOU NEED

TO KNOW GOD IS FOR YOU.

HE IS NOT AGAINST YOU.

AND THIS IS THE EXACT

PLACE OF VULNERABILITY AND

SURRENDER, WHERE GOD CAN

DO MIGHTY THINGS.

WE SAW WHAT HE DID IN

NEIL'S LIFE.

WHEN HE FINALLY

SURRENDERED AND SAID, I

CAN'T DO IT.

SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT

FROM GOD.

WE CANNOT EARN IT.

NEIL BELIEVED THAT.

HE SAID, HERE I AM.

HERE IS ALL THAT I AM.

HERE IS MY MESS; HERE IS

MY SIN PROBLEM.

TAKE MY LIFE.

IF YOU'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO

PRAY FOR YOU TODAY -- AND

I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO

TAKE US UP ON THIS

OPPORTUNITY -- GIVE US A

CALL AT: 1-800-700-7000.

ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS, I

NEED PRAYER FOR MY LIFE.

I NEED TO SURRENDER MY

LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST.

HELP ME TO GET TO KNOW

HIM.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

PSALMS 31: 3: "FOR YOU ARE

MY ROCK AND MY FORTRESS.

THEREFORE FOR YOUR

NAMESAKE, LEAD ME AND

GUIDE ME."

AGAIN, GIVE US A CALL:

1-800-700-7000.

FOR TERRY MEEUWSEN,

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