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Jeffress on Trump: 'There is Not a Racist Bone in His Body'

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Well, joining us now is Pastor Robert Jeffress.

Many of you know him.

He's a strong Trump supporter.

And he's the lead pastor at First Baptist Church in Dallas.

Pastor, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me.

What was your take on yesterday's news conference?

Look, let me say very clearly, white supremacy, neo-Nazism,

these are ideas that are totally repulsive and totally

contradictory to the teaching of God's word.

And these ideologies ought to be denounced.

But I think we also need to recognize

that these repulsive ideologies are just

two manifestations of a bigger problem--

the problem of racism.

And racism comes in all shapes, all sizes, and yes, all colors.

And if we're going to denounce some racism,

we ought to denounce all racism.

I think that's the point the president was making,

and one we ought to all get behind.

So do you think this was just more a style

issue as it relates?

I mean, one of the things I said on "The 700 Club" this morning

was look, he probably should have had separate press

conferences, right?

I mean, you have the media criticism,

and then you had the KKK criticism.

And then there's the racism, both sides

real longer narrative.

It just seems like he kind of put it all out there together

in one rambling press conference and wild ride.

And it kind of got--

it didn't quite have the effect, maybe, he intended.

A lot of people are blaming the president on this.

Are you therefore not blaming him for that?

I'm not blaming him for that.

There is an effort to do whatever

is necessary to take this president down.

And they have painted-- the media has painted,

the liberals have painted--

a false narrative that the president is a racist.

And anytime he tries to break out of that box,

liberals aren't going to allow him to do it.

And so I think the reason President Trump was elected was

he was very honest in what he said.

He refused to be politically correct.

I think he's right to denounce racism in all its forms.

I know the president.

You know the president.

There is not a racist bone in his body.

Pastor, you were recently quoted as saying,

let there be no misunderstanding.

Racism is a sin.

Explain your theology on why you think racism is a sin?

Well, because I believe God is our creator.

He has created all of us.

And Paul said that in Christ, there

is no Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave or free.

We are all one in Christ.

And I believe to treat somebody badly because of their color,

I think it's just absolutely abhorrent,

and I think we as Christians need to be very, very

strong about that.

And in our church, First Baptist Dallas,

we have a number of people of diversity, diverse races,

economic backgrounds.

And I believe, quite frankly, there

has been a failure on the part of the Church,

even a failure on the part of conservative Christians

in decades past, to denounce racism, to embrace segregation,

which is so wrong.

So I think we did have some catching up to do.

But I think in this environment, we

need to say clearly that racism is

abhorrent in the eyes of God.

Right.

So just so I understand, what is the Church's responsibility

then in this?

Because you're clearly saying the Church,

obviously, has a responsibility to speak out.

And you feel like they've neglected that at times,

which is what you're saying.

That's exactly right.

And I think in situations like this,

we need to denounce the ideologies.

Neo-Nazism, my gosh, that is demonic.

I mean, I believe it was Satan himself

who inspired Adolf Hitler to exterminate 6 million Jews.

And I think anybody who plays around with or identifies

with neo-Nazis is doing the devil's work.

And so I think we need to speak out clearly about that.

And Pastor, real quick, the president, you say,

has the moral authority to take out the leader of North Korea,

Kim Jong-un.

Explain that, because we know you've

gotten a lot of criticism for those remarks.

And David Brody is responsible for all of 'em.

He broke the news on CBN.

Well, thank you so much.

I'll take credit in air quotes for that.

No.

And you accurately reported what I said.

Look, I knew there would be a lot of confusion

over the president's fire and fury

comment, confusion by Christians on the government's

use of force.

And I wanted to clarify what the Bible says about this issue.

In Romans 12, the Bible says, don't return evil for evil,

but repay or overcome evil with good.

That's how we're to deal individually to those who wrong

us.

But in Romans 13, Paul talks about the responsibility

of government.

Government is never told to turn the other cheek or forgive.

God said in Romans 13:4 [AUDIO OUT]

instrument to punish evildoers and that God

has given government the power of the sword.

That is the ability to take life to prevent evil,

whether it's through capital punishment or even through war.

And so my point was God's word gives

President Trump and all government [AUDIO OUT] legally,

he gives them the right to use whatever

force necessary to neutralize an evil dictator like Kim Jong-un.

Well, Pastor, thank you so much for joining us.

And we should mention your new book, "A Place Called Heaven."

If you'd like to hear more from Pastor Jeffress,

you can definitely check out that book.

We appreciate you being with us today.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you so much, Pastor.

Appreciate it.

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