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700 Club Interactive - August 18, 2017

Dr. Matt Harmon helps young and seasoned believers understand and apply their Bibles to every day life. Read Transcript


Andrew: THE NBA ALL

STAR WHO DEVELOPED AN

ADDICTION.

I WOULD HAVE

WITHDRAWALS, THE SHAKES,

THE NOISE OF THE CROWD,

BUT I COULD DO IT TO

MAINTAIN AND EVEN KILL,

OTHERWISE I WOULD AND

ANXIOUS.

Andrew: FIND OUT HOW

AN OLD FRIEND AND A JOB AT

STARBUCKS HELPED HIM BACK

ON HIS FEET.

PLUS...ASKING THE RIGHT

QUESTIONS CAN MAKE ALL OF

THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR

PERSONAL BIBLE STUDY.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> HELLO, AND WELCOME TO

THE SHOW.

A DEADLY SITUATION TURNED

INTO A HAPPY ENDING.

Terry: KAILA AND HER

SISTER, SHARON, SAID THEY

HEARD A NOISE IN THEIR

NEIGHBOR'S YARD, AND THE

TWO WERE SHOCKED WHEN THEY

FOUND AN EIGHTH-MONTH-OLD

BABY IN A PLASTIC BAG, AND

WOULD LATER LEARN SHE WAS

ABANDONED BY HER MOTHER

THREE DAYS EARLIER.

KAILA BELIEVES IT WAS

GOD'S PROMINENCE THAT LED

HER TO THE BABY.

I SAID, YOU GUYS, IT IS

A BABY.

IT'S A BABY?

YEAH, IT'S A BABY.

I RAN UP, I PICKED HER UP.

AND I TORE THE BAG SHE WAS

IN.

AND HER HEAD WAS IN THE

BOTTOM OF THE BAG, AND HER

LEGS WERE HANGING OUT OF

THE FRONT OF THE BAG.

SHE WASN'T BREATHING, AND

SO SHE OPENED HER MOUTH

AND I DROPPED SOME WATER

IN THERE, AND SHE STARTED

GASPING FOR AIR AFTER I

DID THAT.

AND HER EYES WEREN'T OPEN,

AND THEN HE EYES OPENED

UP.

AND I SPOKE TO HER, COME

ON, BABY, COME ON,

SWEETNESS, AND SHE OPENED

UP TO ME AFTER I CLEANED

HER UP.

IT WAS GOD'S SAYING FOR ME

TO DO THIS.

I THANK GOD THAT THAT

HAPPENED.

Andrew: POLICE ARE

HAILING THE WOMEN AS

HEROS, AND HAVE SAID THAT

THE BABY IS NOW IN STABLE

CONDITION.

THEY ARE HEROS.

THINK OF THAT, TERRY.

THREE DAYS -- A LOT OF

PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN

FEARFUL AND SAID, I DON'T

WANT TO GET INVOLVED.

Terry: OR MIGHT HAVE

JUST ATTRIBUTED THE NOISE

TO AN ANIMAL THAT WAS

HEARD.

IT IS PROOF WE NEED TO

CHECK SOMETHING OUT WHEN

IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

> HERE IS ANOTHER STORY

THAT IS BREATHE

HEARTBREAKING AND

HEART-WARMING.

LAST YEAR KEITH DAVIDSON

LOST HIS WIFE OF 66 YEARS.

INSTEAD OF LETTING

LONELINESS GET THE BETTER

OF HIM, THE 94-YEAR-OLD

RETIRED MINNESOTA JUDGE

MADE A DECISION.

Andrew: HE DECIDED TO

TURN HIS SORROW INTO A JOY

FOR OTHERS.

HE BUILT A POOL FOR ALL OF

THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN.

IT IS A WELCOME EDITIO ADDITION

IN A TOWN WITHOUT AN

OUTDOOR PUBLIC POOL.

ARE YOU READY TO GO

SWIMMING?

I KNEW THEY WOULD COME.

WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE

EVERY DAY.

I'M NOT SITTING BY

MYSELF LOOKING AT THE

WALLS.

HE IS SPREADING JOY

THROUGHOUT OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THESE

KIDS.

HE SAID HE NEVER HAD ANY

GRANDKIDS, AND I'M LIKE,

YOU YOU KIND OF ADOPTED A

WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OF

KIDS.

THESE ARE YOUR GRANDKIDS.

COME AGAIN.

Andrew: HE SAYS HIS

WIFE WOULD BE HAPPY SEEING

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING SO

MUCH FUN.

HE JUST WISHES SHE WAS

THERE TO SEE IT.

Terry: THAT IS

AWESOME.

WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND

PROBABLY IT SAVED HIS OWN

LIFE IN THE PROCESS.

Andrew: YOU OFTEN

HEAR OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO

LOSE A LONG-TIME SPOUSE,

IT IS THE QUIET THAT IS

MOST HEARTBREAKING.

Terry: WELL, NO QUIET

IN YOUR BACKYARD.

Andrew: NO MORE.

> MOST OF US KNOW THE

THRILL OF DRIVING A CAR

FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.

AND ONE FATHER WANTED TO

MAKE SURE HIS SON HAD THAT

EXPERIENCE.

AND HE WASN'T GOING TO LET

THE FACT HIS SON WAS BLIND

AND AUTISTIC GET IN THE

WAY.

TAKE A LOOK.

I'M GOING TO TEACH

BENNY HOW TO DRIVE.

OVER AND DOWN.

GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU.

OVER AND DOWN.

NOW THIRD GEAR.

[LAUGHTER]

DO YOU LIKE SHIFTING

GEARS?

YEAH.

READY, AND...PUT YOUR

(laughing).

[LAUGHTER]

I LOVE YOU, KIDDO.

I LOVE YOU, TOO.

YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT IN

NEUTRAL.

GOOD JOB.

MAKE SURE IT'S IN NEUTRAL.

YEAH.

Terry: I LOVE THAT.

Andrew: THE WAY

THEY'RE DELIGHTING IN EACH

OTHER, IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL.

Terry: AND THE WAY

THIS DAD REALLY THOUGHT

THROUGH SOMETHING THAT HE

COULD CONNECT WITH WITH

HIS SON THAT WOULD REALLY

MATTER.

Andrew: AND IT IS

SOMETHING TO HAVE THE

TIMING DOWN ON THAT GEAR

SHIFT.

IT WASN'T LIKE THAT FOR ME

THE FIRST TIME.

Terry: I WAS GOING TO

SAY THE SAME THING.

WE COULD TAKE A LESSON

FROM HIM.

Andrew: WELL, UP

NEXT, ARE YOU ONE OF THE

MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS WHO

STRUGGLES TO READ THE

BIBLE?

DR. MATT HARMON IS HERE TO

HELP US UNDERSTAND AND

APPLY SCRIPTURE.

DON'T GO AWAY.

Andrew: THE MAJORITY

OF AMERICANS IDENTIFY AS

CHRISTIANS, AND YET

STUDIES SHOW THAT LESS

THAN 20% OF CHRISTIANS

ACTUALLY READ THEIR BIBLES

ON A REGULAR BASIS.

HOW CAN YOU FIND ENJOYMENT

AND REWARD IN READING THE

WORD?

DR. MATT HARMON HAS THE

ANSWER.

DR. MATT HARMON IS THE

PROFESSOR OF NEW TESTAMENT

STUDIES IN WINONA LAKE,

INDIANA.

HE HAS A HEART TO HELP

PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE

BEAUTY OF CHRIST, BUT

UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGE

THAT CHRISTIANS HAVE

APPLYING THE BIBLE TO

EVERY DAY LIFE.

JESUS SAYS THIS IS WHAT

THE OLD TESTAMENT IS, AND

I'M THE FULFILLMENT OF

THAT.

Reporter: MATT TRAINS

NEW AND SEASONED BELIEVERS

HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND

APPLY THE BIBLE TO THEIR

LIVES WHILE GROWING IN

GODLINESS.

MATT HARMON JOINS YOU NOW.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING

ME.

Andrew: WE'RE A

NATION OF CHRISTIANS, AND

YET BIBLE READING SEEMS SO

LOW.

WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY

CHRIST FOLLOWERS ARE

RELUCTANT IN READING IT?

WE FACE SEVERAL

CHALLENGES.

ONE IS WE HAVE A SET OF

ENEMIES THAT TRY TO

PREVENT US.

SATAN HIMSELF, OUR OWN

SINFUL DESIRES, AND EVEN

THE CULTURE IN THE WORLD

AROUND US ARE PITCHED TO

TRY TO PREVENT US FROM

GETTING INTO GOD'S WORD.

AND EVEN IF WE MANAGE TO

OVERCOME THOSE, WE OPEN

THE BIBLE, AND IF WE'RE

HONEST, IT FEELS KIND OF

FOREIGN.

ODD NAMES, IT HAPPENS

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.

THERE IS JUST A

FOREIGNNESS TO IT THAT CAN

PLACE THIS BARRIER THAT

MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO

CONSISTENTLY GET INTO IT

AND ENCOUNTER GOD THROUGH

IT.

Andrew: AND MAYBE

EVEN INTIMIDATION,

ESPECIALLY FOR NEW

BELIEVERS, BUT EVEN

SEASONED BELIEVERS ON

OCCASION.

ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN YOU THINK THE FACT

THAT THERE ARE 66 BOOKS

WRITTEN ACROSS A COUPLE OF

THOUSAND DIFFERENT YEARS.

AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT

LITERARY GENRES AND IT IS

THIS GREAT CHALLENGE, IF

YOU'RE A NEW BELIEVER, I

DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO

BEGIN SOMETIMES.

Andrew: AND EVEN WITH

THE NUMEROUS AUTHORS AND

THE THOUSANDS OF YEARS

TIME SPAN, WHAT IS THE

CENTRAL MESSAGE?

JESUS REALLY PROVIDES

THE KEY FOR US.

HE EXPLAINED TO HIS

DISCIPLES THAT EVERYTHING

IN THE BIBLE SOMEHOW

RELATES TO HIS LIFE,

DEATH, RESURRECTION, AND

ULTIMATELY THE

ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE GOOD

NEWS OF FORGIVENESS OF

SINS THROUGH REPENTANCE

AND TRUSTING IN HIM, AND

THAT MESSAGE GOING TO THE

ENDS OF THE EARTH.

SO EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE

SOMEHOW CONNECTS TO THAT

LARGER STORY.

SO ONE OF THE ANALOGIES I

LIKE TO USE IS OF A

TELEVISION SERIES.

IF YOU THINK OF GENESIS TO

REVELATION AS A TELEVISION

SERIES, EACH INDIVIDUAL

STORY, OR EVEN BOOK, MIGHT

BE ONE EPISODE IN ONE

SEASON OF THAT WHOLE

SERIES.

SO TO UNDERSTAND THE BIG

PICTURE STORY FROM GENESIS

TO REVELATION, WE HAVE A

BETTER CHANCE OF

UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST AT

A BASIC LEVEL OF WHAT IS

GOING ON O I IN THAT EPISODE,

BUTHOW IBUT HOW IT CONNECTS TO THE

BIBLE.

Andrew: DO YOU THINK

THERE IS A WRONG WAY TO

READ THE SCRIPTURE?

THERE ARE SEVERAL WHAT

I CALL MISGUIDED WAYS TO

READ THE SCRIPTURE.

ONE IS THE MAGIC EIGHT

BALL APPROACH.

WE THINK, I HAVE THIS

SPECIFIC QUESTION, SHOULD

I DATE THIS PERSON.

SO WE OPEN THE BIBLE AND

LOOK FOR A SPECIFIC SORT

OF ANSWER --

Andrew: UNTIL WE FIND

THE ONE WE WANT, RIGHT?

EXACTLY.

AND SO WE KEEP FLIPPING

THROUGH.

RATHER THAN UNDERSTANDING

GOD DIDN'T GIVE US THE

BIBLE AS A SORT OF MAGIC

EIGHT BALL, BUT HE GAVE US

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

SHOULD I DATE THIS PERSON,

SHOULD I TAKE THIS JOB --

THE BIBLE HAS MUCH TO SAY

ABOUT PRINCIPLES THAT

GUIDE HOW WE THINK ABOUT

THOSE SUCH DECISIONS.

BUT IF WE LOOK FOR A YES

OR NO ANSWER ON THOSE

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, YOU'LL

PROBABLY BE FRUSTRATED.

Andrew: SO YOU'RE

PROBABLY NOT BIG ON WHAT

SHOULD I READ TODAY, I'LL

CLOSE MY EYES AND OPEN THE

BOOK.

ANY TIME ANYONE GETS

INTO THE BIBLE IS GOOD, OF

COURSE, BUT THERE ARE

BETTER WAYS THAN FLIPPING

THROUGH AND RANDOMLY

LANDING SOME PLACE.

Andrew: YOU SAY THERE

ARE TWO QUESTIONS THAT

WILL REALLY HELP US

UNDERSTAND.

WHAT ARE THOSE TWO?

TWO SETS OF QUESTIONS,

WHEN IT COMES TO

UNDERSTANDING, AND THAT IS

ONE SET.

AND OTHER SET THAT COMES

TO APPLYING THE BIBLE.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT

UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE,

THERE ARE REALLY FOUR

QUESTIONS I LIKE TO ASK.

THE FIRST IS: WHAT DO WE

LEARN ABOUT GOD?

THE BIBLE IS A BOOK ABOUT

GOD HIMSELF.

GOD GAVE US THE BIBLE TO

EXPERIENCE HIM AND TO

ENCOUNTER HIM.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS:

WHAT DO WE LEARN ABOUT

PEOPLE?

SO AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT

DO WE LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE,

WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SORT

OF SINFUL TENDENCIES DO WE

SEE THAT SHOW UP IN OUR

OWN LIVES?

AND ULTIMATELY THOSE TWO

QUESTIONS LEAD TO THE NEXT

TWO.

WHICH ARE: WHAT DO I LEARN

ABOUT RELATING TO GOD AND

THINKING ABOUT HOW DO I

INTERACT WITH HIM AND

CONNECT WITH HIM.

AND THE FOURTH QUESTION

FOR UNDERSTANDING THE

BIBLE IS SIMPLY: WHAT DO I

LEARN ABOUT RELATING TO

OTHER PEOPLE.

Andrew: THAT IS A BIG

ONE, TOO, ISN'T IT?

YEAH, BECAUSE WE DON'T

WANT TO JUST LIVE IN AN

INTELLECTUAL WORLD WHERE I

HAVE INFORMATION, BUT HOW

DO I RELATE TO OTHER

PEOPLE IN MY LIFE?

WHEN IT COMES TO APPLYING

THE BIBLE, I THINK THERE

ARE FOUR SIMPLE QUESTIONS

WE CAN ASK OF ANY PASSAGE.

THE FIRST IS SIMPLY: WHAT

DOES GOD WANT ME TO

UNDERSTAND?

FORMING WHAT WE THINK

ABOUT THE WORLD AND THE

PEOPLE AROUND US.

THE SECOND IS: WHAT DOES

GOD WANT ME TO BELIEVE.

THERE IS THIS GAP BETWEEN

WHAT WE UNDERSTAND AND

WHAT WE BELIEVE ABOUT GOD.

THIS IS TO HELP US FOCUS

ON CLOSING THAT GAP.

THIRD IS: WHAT DOES GOD

WANT ME TO DESIRE.

GOD ISN'T JUST INTERESTED

IN FILLING OUR MINDS.

HE IS INTERESTED IN

CHANGING THE WAY WE DESIRE

THINGS, WHAT WE DESIRE,

OUR I IN CLIN INCLINATIONS.

AND LASTLY: WHAT DOES GOD

WANT ME TO DO?

Andrew: THESE

QUESTIONS BRING ABOUT THAT

REVELATION FROM GOD IN HIS

ANSWERS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THEY HELP US SHAPE THE WAY

THAT WE THINK AND THE WAY

WE UNDERSTAND WHO GOD IS,

AND HOW HE EXPECTS US TO

LIVE AS HIS IMAGE BEARS.

Andrew: HOW DO WE

TAKE A BOOK LIKE LEVITICUS

AND WE SAY, WHY AM I

READING THAT, IT DOESN'T

APPLY TO ME.

MANY PEOPLE INTEND TO

READ THROUGH THE BIBLE,

AND THEY GET TO EXODUS AND

THEY START GETTING SOME OF

THOSE LAWS AND THEN THEY

ABANDON ALL HOPE WHEN THEY

GET TO LEVITICUS BECAUSE

OF ALL OF THE LAWS AND THE

SACRIFICES --

Andrew: AND THEY MAY

NOT CONTINUE ON.

EXACTLY.

WHEN YOU APPROACH THAT

WITH THE PROSPECTIVE OF

EVERY SACRIFICE LEVITICUS

TALKS ABOUT POINTS US TO

CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE.

IT POINTS TO CHRIST AS OUR

GREAT HIGH PRIEST.

AND IT FOCUSES ON THE

HOLLYNESS OHOLHOLINESS OF GOD.

AS A RESULT, THAT REMINDS

US THAT WE NEED A SAVIOR

TO SAVE US FROM OUR SINS.

SO TO BE ABLE TO INDECES INTERACT

WITH GOD THROUGH HIS SON,

JESUS CHRIST.

Andrew: WHAT DO YOU

RECOMMEND, IF WE'RE NOT

FEELING UP TO IT, IF THE

TASK SOMETIMES FEELS TOO

STRONG, WE'RE NOT ON OUR

"A" GAME WHEN IT COMES TO

BEING OBEDIENT -- DO YOU

HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON

THAT?

FOR ME, PHILIPPIANS 2:

13, WHERE PAUL SAYS, GOD

IS THE ONE WORKING IN US,

BOTH TO WILL AND WORK FOR

OUR PLEASURE.

I BELIEVE WHAT PAUL IS

SAYING IS THAT GOD GIVES

US THE DESIRE TO OBEY AND

THE POWER TO OBEY HIM.

WHEN I FIND MYSELF IN A

SITUATION WHERE I THINK, I

DON'T REALLY WANT TO OBEY

GOD RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANT TO PRAY AND SAY,

GOD, PLEASE CHANGE MY

DESIRES.

IN THE MEANTIME RIGHT NOW,

I'M GOING TO TRUST THAT

EVEN THOUGH MY DESIRES

AREN'T THERE, YOU HAVE

GIVEN ME THE POWER TO OBEY

YOU BY YOUR SPIRIT

DWELLING IN ME.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A STEP

OF FAITH AND WALK IN

OBEDIENCE, EVEN THOUGH MY

DESIRES AREN'T THERE YET.

AND USUALLY GOD BRINGS

THOSE DESIRES ALONG TO

CATCH UP WITH THE ACTIONS

AS I TAKE STEPS OF FAITH

AND TRUST.

Andrew: HOW CAN IT

HELP A SEASONED BELIEVER

AS WELL AS SOMEONE WHO IS

NEW IN THEIR CHRISTIAN

WALK?

SURE.

FOR THE YOUNG BELIEVER, I

THINK THIS IS A TOOL THAT

CAN GIVE SOME GUIDANCE ON

HOW TO MEET WITH THE

LIVING GOD ON A DAILY

BASIS WHEN THEY READ THEIR

BIBLE.

BECAUSE AS WE MENTIONED,

THE BIBLE CAN BE A

CONFUSING OR CHALLENGING

BOOK TO GET INTO.

FOR SEASONED BELIEVERS, I

THINK IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY

TO GROW FOR THEM IN

FOCUSING ON THE RIGHT

THINGS, AND IT MIGHT

PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

THEM TO COME ALONGSIDE A

YOUNGER BELIEVER AND

DISCIPLE THEM AND HERE ARE

SOME QUESTIONS I THINK YOU

CAN ASK.

SO IN EVERYDAY LIFE, THIS

CAN BE A TOOL THAT GOD CAN

USE TO HELP US ENCOUNTER

THE LIVING GOD.

Andrew: IF YOU VISIT

THE CROSSWAY WEBSITE,

YOU'LL FIND A HELPFUL BOOK

MARK.

THE BOOK IS CALLED "ASKING

THE RIGHT QUESTIONS: A

PRACTICAL GUIDE TO

UNDERSTANDING AND APPLYING

THE BIBLE."

THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US.

THANK YOU.

Andrew: COMING UP, HE

WENT FROM NBA ALL STAR TO

STARBUCKS' BARRISTA.

MORE PRESSURE AS A

FOOTBALL STAR OR TAKING

THE CUSTOMIZED ORDERS.

I WOULD SAY TAKING THE

CUSTOMIZED ORDERS.

A CARMEL MA MACIADO CAN BE

DIFFICULT TO MAKE WHEN YOU

HAVE TO RUSH.

Andrew: HE MADE

$100 MILLION FROM HIS NBA

AND OLYMPIC BASKETBALL

CAREER, AND HE SQUANDERED

IT ALL.

VIN BAKER IS A

SELF-CONFESSED PRODIGAL

WHO WENT FROM SPORTS

SUPERSTAR TO BARRISTA, AND

HE SAYS HE HAS NEVER BEEN

HAPPIER.

Reporter: WHEN A

STRAIGHT PATH TURNS TO

WINDING ROAD, THE HOPE IS

THAT THE JOURNEY BRINGS A

RETURN.

VIN BAKER'S BASKETBALL

ODYSSEY HAS.

YOU CAN ALWAYS COME

HOME.

I'VE BEEN WELL TRAVELLED.

THE FULL GOSPEL

TABERNACLE, AND

CONNECTICUT HAS ALWAYS

BEEN HOME FOR ME.

MY EARLIEST MEMORIES WAS

SINGING IN THE CHOIR AT

NINE YEARS OLD.

IT WILL ALWAYS REMAIN

SPECIAL TO ME.

IT IS THE PRODIGAL SON.

I HAVE RETURNED HOME.

Reporter: WHAT DOES

IOLD SABROOK STILL BRING?

I HAVE WONDERFUL

FRIENDS HERE.

HERE I'M NOT VIN BAKER,

I'M JUST VINNIE.

THIS IS MY TRADE SCHOOL.

AND NOW IT IS THE SOLD

SABROOK RECREATIONAL

CENTER.

THIS IS WHERE VIN, JR. AND

I COME AND WORK OUT.

Reporter: IT IS WHERE

YOU GOT YOUR NAME.

THIS YEAR HARTFORD

BEING THE LEADING SCORER,

THE THE DRAFT PICK, 1993,

AND HAVING SO MUCH EARLY

SUCCESS, NBA ALL-STAR, AND

MY OWN BRAND JORDAN SHOE,

AND SO REALLY A LOT OF

WONDERFUL THINGS THAT

BASKETBALL BROUGHT ME.

Reporter: WHEN WAS

THE PEAK OF YOUR NBA

CAREER?

MY FIRST YEAR IN

SEATTLE, 1997, 1998, AND I

WON 61 GAMES.

AND THE NUMBER ONE SEED

GOING INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

I WENT FROM BEING AN ALL

STAR TO THE NEXT LEVEL

THAT I WON.

Reporter: SO YOU

INHERITED OPPORTUNITIES BY

COMING TO THE NBA, BUT YOU

ALSO GET A LIFESTYLE?

UH-HUH.

IF YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF

HAVING DISCRETION, THEN

YOU'LL FALL INTO IT.

I DIDN'T COME FROM A PARTY

BACKGROUND, BUT ONCE I

STARTED TO DRINK AND HANG

OUT AND PARTY, IT WENT

FROM CASUAL FUN TO I

REALLY NEED TO DRINK.

NOW I HAVE TO DO IT TO

SURVIVE BECAUSE MY BODY IS

NOT RESPONDING WITHOUT

ONE.

SO IT GOT REALLY BAD.

Reporter: DID YOU

DRINK DURING GAMES?

YEAH, THERE WERE TIMES

WHEN I HAD TO.

I BELIEVE THE PRESSURI THINK THE PRESSURE OF

MAINTAINING THIS LEVEL OF

BASKETBALL MADE ME

ANXIOUS.

I WOULD HAVE WITHDRAWALS,

THE SHAKES.

THE NOISE OF THE CROWD --

I WOULD DRINK DURING IT TOBdVE

MAINTAIN AND EVEN HEAL.

OTHERWISE I WOULD BE

ANXIOUS AND MY BODY WAS

SHAKING.

MAYBE I'M NOT AS GOOD AS I

THOUGHT I WAS BECAUSE I

DIDN'T REALIZE I'D BECOME

AN ALCOHOLIC.

Reporter: NO MY

HIDING.

YOUR GAME FALTERS.

YOU'RE TRADED TO3W

YOU'RE FOUND OUT.

SUSPENSIONS, RELEASES, YOU

LOSE YOUR CAREER AND

EVERYTHING WITH IT.

THE NAME, VIN BAKER, AT

THAT TIME WASN'T GOOD.

ALL OF THE STORIES, ALL OF

THE RUMORS, ALL OF THE

MONEY LOST.

I CAPITO COULDN'T FIGHT IT AT

THAT POINT.

I WAS ALREADY BROKE.

I WAS BROKEN.

I WAS SPIRITUALLY EMPTY.

LOSING EVERYTHING I HAD

GAINED AND WORKED FOR WAS

NOT ROCK BOTTOM.

ROCK BOTTOM WAS WHEN I

DIDN'T FEEL CONNECTED TO

CHRIST.

I FELT THERE WAS NO ONE I

COULD TURN TO, INCLUDING

GOD.

I HAD DONE SO MUCH WRONG

WITH ALCOHOLISM, AND SOME

OF THE CHOICES I MADE WERE

MORALLY AGAINST GOD AND

EVERYTHING HE WANTED ME TO

BE.

Reporter: THE IN AND

OUT OF REHAB, THIS LAST

ONE WAS DIFFERENT.

DIDN'T YOU TELL THEM, I'LL

BE OUT IN A WEEK.

I HAD A REAL

CONVERSATION WITH THE

LORD.

I NEED YOU NOW.

I CRIED OUTGOING TO REHAB.

ALL I NEEDED WAS TO GET

PHYSICALLY WELL SO I

WOULDN'T HAVE THE

SEIZURES.

MY SPIRIT WAS MADE UP, AND

I KNEW THAT THE

MAINTENANCE WAS GOING TO

BE COMING TO THE LORD AND

COMING TO CHURCH AND

COMING TO PRAYER.

USUALLY THESE STORIES END

IN DEATH, BUT THE AWESOME

PART IS YOU CAN CHANGE THE

ENDING OF THE STORY.

THE ONLY WAY TO FACE THAT

AND TURN THAT AROUND IS

THROUGH CHRIST.

Reporter: TO GET BACK

ON HIS FEET, VIN REACHED

OUT TO ONE OF HIS FORMER

NBA OWNERS, STARBUCKS'

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HOWARD

SCHULTZ.

I CONSIDER HOWARD

FAMILY AND MY CLOSE

FRIEND.

HE DID TAKE A CHANCE ON

ME.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT

OPPORTUNITY HE GAVE ME, TO

COME IN HERE AND PUT THIS

GREEN APRON ON.

TO COME IN THE MORNING AND

OPEN UP A STORE AT 4:30,

IT IS GREAT.

I NEEDED A PLACE WHERE I

COULD GRIND AND WORK,

LITERALLY AND

FIGURATIVELY, THROUGH A

LOT OF THINGS I WAS GOING

THROUGH SPIRITUALLY.

AND I FOUND IT HERE AT

STARBUCKS.

Reporter: MORE

PRESSURE PLAYING

BASKETBALL OR TAKING THE

CUSTOMIZED ORDERS.

I WOULD SAY TAKING THE

CUSTOMIZED ORDERS.

A CARMEL MACCHIATO CAN BE

DIFFICULT TO MAKE WHEN IT

HAS TO BE RUSHED OUT.

Reporter: WHAT DOES

LOVE MEAN TO YOU KNOW?

IT MEANS EVERYTHING TO

ME.

I WAS IN SUCH A BAD PLACE

THAT I DIDN'T THINK I

COULD BE LOVED, AND THAT'S

WHEN I FOUND OUT HIS LOVE

WAS UNCONDITIONAL.

I WAKE UP EVERY MORNING

NEEDING MERCY.

I HAVE SIX YEARS OF

SOBRIETY, BUT I NEED YOU

TODAY.

I HAVE A HEALTHY FEAR OF

MY PAST AND A GREAT

ADORATION FOR THE LORD.

Reporter: HIS RECENT

BOOK, "GOD AND STARBUCKS,"

OFFERS AN ACCOUNT OF HIS

LIFE AND REDEMPTION.

IT HAS BEEN A BEAUTIFUL

PROCESS, COMING BACK TO MY

WIFE AND MY SON, AND MY

SON SIGNING TO PLAY

BASKETBALL THERE.

AND I'VE HAD THE

OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME

FORECASTING.

THEY TOOK A CHANCE ON ME,

AND I'M TRULY BLESSED TO

BE BACK IN MILWAUKEE.

Reporter: HOW DO YOU

MAINTAIN THE PERSPECTIVE

THAT THERE WAS PURPOSE

EVEN IN THE WORST OF IT.

I'M CONVINCED THAT

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED

TO ME IN THE NBA HAD TO

HAPPEN TO ME IN ORDER FOR

ME TO GET A GOD

PERSPECTIVE, NORTEL FOR ME

TIN ORDER FORME TO CHANGE MY LIFE, AND

MORE IMPORTANTLY, HELP

OTHER PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR

OPINION ON ADDICTION AND

TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES.

BIG CHANGES CAN HAPPEN.

I KNEW THERE WOULD BE JOY

TO RUNNING BACK TO GOD AND

RUNNING BACK TO A

FORGIVING FATHER.

Andrew: VIN BAKER,

WHAT A TURNAROUND.

I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM

PLAYING IN THE NBA.

AND TO THINK HE LOST

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF

DOLLARS, AND FOR HIM TO

SAY THAT WASN'T THE LOW

POINT FOR HIM.

LOSING ALL OF THE MONEY

WAS NOT HIS LOWEST MOMENT.

IT WAS DISCOVERING ONE DAY

THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A

CONNECTION TO JESUS.

AND SOME OF US HAVE

EXPERIENCED THAT BECAUSE

WE'VE MADE DECISIONS, AND

WE'VE CREATED

CIRCUMSTANCES FOR

OURSELVES WHEN WE FEEL

THAT THAT CONNECTION IS

JUST GONE.

AND VIN SAID THAT MY NAME

WAS A BAD NAME.

HIS REPUTATION WAS BAD.

OKAY, SO IF WE'VE MADE

DECISIONS WHERE OUR

CIRCUMSTANCES ARE REALLY

TERRIBLE, AND WE MADE A

MESS OF THINGS AND WE FEEL

LIKE OUR NAME IS NO GOOD,

THAT'S WHEN WE TAKE JESUS

UP FOR HIS OFFER, THE GIFT

OF SALVATION, AND WE

BECOME A NEW IDENTITY IN

JESUS CHRIST.

GOD DESIRES TO TRANSFORM

OUR LIVES.

AND VIN EVEN SAYING NOW HE

IS SIX YEARS SOBER, BUT HE

STILL NEEDS JESUS EVERY

SINGLE DAY.

IT IS A DAILY WALK, ISN'T

IT?

AND MAYBE YOU'RE IN A

SITUATION WHERE YOU NEED

TO SAY, JESUS, THE MESS

I'VE CREATED, I NEED TO

SURRENDER IT TO YOU.

BECAUSE I CAN'T DEPEND ON

MYSELF TO FIX MY OWN

CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND LOOK WHAT GOD HAS DONE

IN VIN'S LIFE.

IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH

ADDICTION, IF YOU'RE IN

RELATIONSHIPS THAT YOU

KNOW ARE NOT GOD'S BEST

FOR YOU, OR SIMPLY YOU'RE

SAYING, GOD, JUST LIKE VIN

BAKER, I DON'T FEEL A

CONNECTION TO YOU ANYMORE,

LET'S PRAY NOW.

LET'S OVERCOME THAT.

YOUR ENEMY, SATAN, DESIRES

YOU TO HAVE A SEVERED

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

GOD NEVER DESIRES THAT.

HE NEVER WANTS SIN TO

STAND IN THE WAY OF YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS

CHRIST.

LET'S TAKE A MOMENT NOW

AND PRAY.

FATHER, HERE I AM.

HERE IS MY MESS.

HERE IS MY CIRCUMSTANCES.

YOU KNOW THE CONFUSION I'M

LIVING IN.

FATHER GOD, I SEE VIN

BAKER'S STORY, AND I SAY,

LORD, DO A SIMILAR WORK IN

MY LIFE.

BRING ME BACK TO YOU,

FATHER.

I SURRENDER TO YOU NOW.

I RAISE MY HANDS AND SAY,

LORD, I CAN'T DO IT ON MY

OWN.

WITHOUT YOU, I CAN DO

NOTHING, JUST AS YOUR

SCRIPTURE SAYS.

BUT I CAN DO ALL THINGS

THROUGH CHRIST INTO

STRENGTHENS ME.

LORD, THANK YOU THAT NO

MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I

MESS UP, YOU TAKE ME BACK

WITH LOVING ARMS.

THANK YOU THAT YOU ALWAYS

DESIRE RELATIONSHIP WITH

ME, FATHER, ALWAYS.

THERE IS NEVER A TIME WHEN

YOU DON'T.

LORD, RIGHT NOW TODAY, I

COME BACK TO YOU FATHER,

AND I SAY, LORD, I

SURRENDER TO YOU.

AND IT IS IN JESUS'

PRECIOUS NAME I PRAY.

AMEN.

AND REMEMBER, IT'S THE

WORK OF JESUS CHRIST ON

THE CROSS, THAT'S HOW WE

FIND SALVATION.

IT IS NOT THROUGH WORK WE

CAN DO.

WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO

EARN JESUS' LOVE.

HE LOVES US ALREADY.

I'M SO THANKFUL THAT JESUS

DIED ON THE CROSS SO WE

CAN SPEND ETERNITY WITH

GOD.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS

WORD FROM HE HEBREWS 1: 2:

"IN HIS LAST DAYS, HE HAS

SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON,

WHO WILL BE APPOINTED THE

HEIR OF ALL THINGS,

THROUGH WHO, ALSO, HE

CREATED THE WORLD."

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

WE

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