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News on The 700 Club: September 5, 2017

As seen on "The 700 Club," Sept. 5: Why the next five days are crucial for this Houston community; Category 5 Hurricane Irma now packing 175 MPH winds, may be on track to hit Florida, and more. Read Transcript


Welcome, folks, to this edition of "The 700 Club."

Well, that bunch of crazies in the North Korea

have done it again.

They made its latest and most powerful threat yet,

coming in the form of a hydrogen bomb underground test.

Big explosion, maybe 60 or 70 times more powerful

than the one we dropped on Hiroshima in Japan.

Well, now the question is, how will

the United States and the world respond to this provocation?

Well, while North Korea is moving ahead

with its nuclear weapons program.

It's also working on the missiles

to deliver them to other countries,

including the United States.

Dale Hurd has the story.

As tense is the situation with North Korea has already become,

it could get worse.

South Korea believes the North is planning another missile

launch within a few days.

The test launch of what some suspect will

be an intercontinental ballistic missile,

capable of hitting the United States,

could come this Saturday.

That's the anniversary of North Korea's founding,

leader Kim Jong-un may want to show off

his ability to target the US with nuclear weapons.

The stakes could not be higher.

The urgency is now.

DALE HURD: And at a special meeting of the U.N. Security

Council Monday, the US repeated it's Warning to North Korea.

Nuclear powers understand their responsibilities.

Kim Jong Un shows no such understanding.

His abusive use of missiles, and his nuclear threats,

show that he is begging for war.

DALE HURD: Japan, which had a North Korean missile

fly through its airspace, told the Security Council

something must be done.

The Security Council must act to stop North Korea

from continuing down this road.

DALE HURD: South Korean warships conducted live fire exercises

at sea today, in a show of strength,

after the north conducted its biggest nuclear test ever

of a hydrogen bomb.

On Monday, Seoul used F-15 fighter jets

and land-based ballistic missiles

to simulate an attack on North Korea's nuclear test site,

to strongly warn the North over the recent detonation.

China has begun nuclear radiation emergency

drills along its border with North Korea.

President Trump, asked in Washington

if he would attack North Korea, said, "We'll see."

Russia, China, and the European Union

all claim there is no military solution to the crisis.

But all have condemned North Korea.

The path Undertaken by North Korea

is dangerous, irresponsible, and illegal.

No US military action appears imminent, and U.N.

Ambassador Nikki Haley is calling for the strongest

possible sanctions against North Korea at the UN,

while the Trump administration looks into penalties against

nations that do business with the North.

Dale Hurd, CBN News.

Well, what do you do?

How do you put a penalty on China,

that has trade with the United States of $400 or $500 billion

a year?

Some of the most important things that we receive,

we get from China.

And what we sell, we sell in China.

Sanctions seem to be the main weapon against North Korea.

And for more on that, we're joined by Anthony Ruggerio

Anthony's a senior fellow at the Foundation

for Defense of Democracies.

He worked for the US government for 17 years.

He was a US adviser to the talks on North Korea in 2005.

five And we so pleasure to welcome him to "The 700 Club."

Thank you so much for being with us

It looks like they say the people in Seoul,

we've got about a million people at risk

under the guns of North Korea.

What can we do to stop this provocation?

Well, thanks for having me.

I think you said it right, that sanctions

are the best and peaceful means to limit North Korea's

programs, and to try and attempt to roll them back.

Sanctions right now on North Korea

are nowhere near what we had on against Iran,

starting about seven years ago.

So we really need to ramp up sanctions.

Unfortunately, we know what the problem is,

but we haven't really been able to tackle

it, which is China and Russia.

They're the problems.

They're the ones whose firms and individuals,

and in the case of China, Chinese banks,

that are facilitating North Korea's sanctions evasion.

Well, our trade with China is enormous.

We are dependent on China for so many

of the goods we use here in this country,

and the trade that we sell, our airplanes and things like that.

How do we put biting sanctions on the Chinese

if they deal with the North Korea?

Sure.

You know, that's always a concern.

And what we have to do is make sure

that the sanctions are targeted.

First off, we have to remember that these firms

and individuals and banks are breaking US law.

So the option of not doing something

is not really an option.

Because we need to protect the US financial system

and enforce US law.

But what that doesn't mean, you know,

it doesn't mean that we have to go

to the extreme level of prohibiting these banks

from the US financial system.

It doesn't mean that we have to start some kind of trade war.

There are ways to do this.

I believe that the Trump administration is doing this.

They are starting, you know, what

I like to call it is an escalation ladder.

And they're right now, sort of at the bottom of that ladder.

They're moving up that ladder slowly.

They've gone after one Chinese bank.

They've gone after a bunch of Chinese companies

and individuals.

I think the next level will be going

after another Chinese bank or banks.

But there are ways to do this before we get to,

sort of the end of that escalation, which

would be more extreme and harm the US-China relationship.

You know, Anthony, we have at the United States,

the most sophisticated cyber-warfare capability

in the world.

Could we use that against North Korea

to really shut them down from a cyberattack?

Well, there have been some rumors

that the United States is using cyber, offensive cyber

activities against North Korea's missile systems.

That was one of the reasons given for some of the failures

that we saw before.

Some of the missile failures we saw before.

But now we've seen a string of successes,

so maybe there's not a one for one match.

Certainly, that would be something

that should be looked at.

I'm more focused, frankly, on defending ourselves

against North Korea's cyber activities.

You know, after North Korea really

tried to devastate Sony Pictures after the movie "The Interview"

in 2014, and some of the things that North Korea has done

against South Korea in the cyber realm,

and you know, trying to steal $1 billion from a Bangladesh bank,

using the New York Federal Reserve.

You know North Korea is very sophisticated on its cyber

side, and I'm not sure that we're really ready for that.

You know, the North Koreans have imposed tremendous pain

on their own population.

And the thought is that they can survive almost any sanctions

that come against them.

What can we do to stop this?

Let me ask you about one other thing, too.

You know, the idea of an EMP blast of a nuclear missile

in the atmosphere, say, 10, 15 miles in the air above Chicago,

could literally fry all the electronics in America.

Have you considered that, and people taking that seriously?

And what can we do to defend against it?

So, on your first point on human rights, certainly,

North Korea, you know, starves its own people.

You know, there's, the numbers are,

everywhere, you know, probably 100,000 of their own citizens

in, essentially prison camps.

You know, suffering levels of torture that probably people

cannot even imagine.

And certainly, the regime does not

use its revenue for its people.

In terms of, how could we--

There's this sort of belt tightening,

this sort of, slightly a myth on belt

tightening against sanctions.

You know, North Korea uses their revenue for three purposes,

for their weapons programs, for their military,

and to buy luxury goods to keep the elites happy.

If we started tightening the revenue,

they're going to have to make a choice amongst those three.

And all three are necessary for survival.

So for them, they're going to have

to make some tough choices.

But on an EMP, haven't I haven't seen any evidence that that's

their goal or purpose.

I, you know, I think it's more likely, if they were going

to send a missile toward the United States,

that it would have a nuclear weapon that they would

be intending to use against the United States,

versus an EMP, which we really haven't seen really

any evidence of them testing.

But I'll also say that I'm always

in the business of not underestimating North Korea.

I think there are too many people out there that

sort of rely on what we haven't seen,

that are looking for those type of clues.

So North Korea could certainly be

working on next-level, you know, EMP,

or something along those lines.

One last question.

Do you think they have been able to weaponize a thermonuclear

device to put it on the nose cone of a rocket

and hit the United States?

Have they been able to do that, do you think, or not?

Well, looks like, you know, I think most of the intelligence

assessments that have been, unfortunately leaked

suggest the militarization part of that, making it

the right size to fit on the nose cone has happened.

You know, I think time will tell.

We'll have to wait the next couple of days

to see what type of device.

The interesting part of this test

is, usually, every nuclear test--

I think most people think it was probably

a multistage nuclear weapon.

The interesting thing part of this test

is, usually they tunnel, they tunnel into mountain.

and it's, and the blast is self-contained.

But apparently, there was a second collapse.

There was a collapse of the third tunnel, perhaps, which

could indicate that there will be

the release of some gases that could be analyzed and give us

some clues about what the device was, and what was tested.

Well, Anthony, thank you very much.

Anthony Ruggerio, expert.

He many years about what's going on in North Korea.

Well, in other news, the damages from Hurricane Harvey

could cost up to $180 billion, that's $180 billion.

And the worst may not yet be over for many Texans, Texans

in West Houston.

The cleanup continues.

More water will have to be released from dams in the area,

and that will bring even more flooding to those poor people.

Our reporter, Eric Rosales, shows us the new damage

that will leave behind.

We're in West Houston, just about a mile or so away

from where the releases took place.

And you can see the damage that was left behind.

This is pretty much the only way that you can get around

in the neighborhood in Houston.

It's about five to six feet of water

that is gradually going down.

But the results inside many of these homes is catastrophic.

It's completely wiped out.

Everything was at least, was in two feet of water, at least,

up there.

All the furniture is gone.

Appliances.

Everything.

ERIC ROSALES: Engineers tell CBN News the rush is on right now

for hundreds of thousands to get as much as possible latter

their water-soaked West Houston homes.

Because over the next five days, more water

has to be released from two nearby reservoirs which

were built in the 1940s.

Emergency workers say the dams are showing their age,

and could give way if more water is not released

to ease the pressure on them.

Meanwhile, people have been going through their homes

and taking stock of the damages.

We lost a lot.

A lot.

But it's just worldly possession.

ERIC ROSALES: They're just grateful to fellow Texans,

strangers who have showed up at their home to help rip

out the carpet and drywall.

There's so much beauty that the Lord

is bringing out of this.

I just can't tell you.

it's worth it all, because it's really what it's all about.

The bride of Christ being together and one.

We're blessed.

We're truly blessed to have some friends who

had a house, to allow us to move there and say,

"Look, don't worry about it for now.

Just get in.

Get your stuff in there.

It's your home, and be blessed.

The whole Church Unlimited Network, raise your hands!

Raise your hands!

All right!

ERIC ROSALES: In Rockport, along the Texas coastline,

and nearly a dozen other cities throughout the state,

Operation Blessing is providing people with important supplies

they need, along with emotional support.

I need y'all to fill this out, front and back.

There's four pages.

Lots of signatures.

ERIC ROSALES: Working side by side with FEMA crews,

Operation Blessing volunteers help clean up what

hurricane Harvey left behind.

I feel read bad, and that's why

I came out, I came out here to help out and do my part,

to helping out, something.

It's a little.

It's a little something it's but something.

ERIC ROSALES: But through it all,

Texans are strong, resilient, and know God

will bring a brighter tomorrow.

And y'all are out there helping more people.

Operation Blessing, y'all are are the only people that

I've seen out here helping right now.

Operation Blessing.

The word "blessing" is, y'all are a blessing right now

to these--

to us here in this community.

This is one of the neighborhoods hard hit

by the flood waters.

You can see all of the worldly possessions of someone.

And this is what's happening, neighborhood

after neighborhood.

This actually was cleared out by members

of Operation Blessing, volunteers

from Operation Blessing.

And you know, you go through this,

and this is people's stuff.

You know, they have furniture.

They have clothes.

They have toys.

And that's the biggest thing is, the parents

are trying to get rid of these toys.

Because what was in that flood water, everything

from gasoline, to oil, to even raw sewage.

We're joined with Jody Gettys from Operation Blessing.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Talk to us a little bit about--

We're here in the Port Arthur, Beaumont area.

But this is just one of the areas

where volunteers have helped out with Operation Blessing,

correct?

Yeah, absolutely, Eric.

We are working all over the state of Texas.

We've had over 2,300 volunteers working

in Rockport, which is one of the hardest areas where

Hurricane Harvey made landfall.

We're working here in Port Arthur, as well as Beaumont.

And then, of course, we're working in about eight cities

total throughout Texas.

And how can people help?

How can they get involved?

You still need volunteers, correct?

Absolutely.

This is a long road of recovery.

If there's anything we need, is of course financial resources.

But human resources.

So if you'd like to volunteer, please

go to OperationBlessing.org and click on Volunteer.

We'd love to have you come out and help us, help

the people of Texas.

And you're also providing spiritual healing as well

for them.

Oh my goodness.

Absolutely.

I mean, the greatest calling we have

is to resurrect hope in people.

I mean, they're devastated.

This is Reese Holm behind me.

Elderly lady that has a disabled adult

niece that lives behind her, as well

as elderly people all around.

There in total state of shock.

Lots of tears yesterday.

Just here to love on them.

All right.

Well, thank you so much for your hard work

with Operation Blessing.

Thank you so much, Jody.

Well, again, folks out here, they lost everything.

You know, I mean, anything that anybody can help, just

go to OperationBlessing.org, and that's the way to do it, Pat.

Thanks, Eric.

I want to say one word to Jody, before she leaves.

Jody, tell me about the faith Level of these people.

It's extraordinary.

They have lost everything.

Devastation, and they are just helpless.

And, you know, what is the spiritual level

of these wonderful people?

Well, Pat, they're trying to hold on to hope, of course.

But as I walked the streets yesterday,

in this neighborhood, it was tough.

Ruth was very distraught.

Sandra across the street, another elderly lady.

They have, they can't help themselves, Pat.

And so, right now, it's the reality

of coming back to their homes and seeing everything

that they've worked for, everything they've

lived for, completely in ruins.

In the pile behind me, there's pictures of their children,

their grandchildren.

I mean, the stuff is on the side of the road

is stuff that money can't buy.

But Operation Blessing's here, and I

feel like our greatest calling is to resurrect hope

in the precious lives of these hearts that

are here in Port Arthur and all throughout Texas.

I heard, I think Bill Horning was telling me about Beaumont,

that the sewage system went out, and nursing but polluted water,

and then they couldn't flush toilets.

Could you go into that in some detail?

Yeah, that is correct, Pat.

Yes, sir.

It was really hard here in Beaumont.

The water supply went out.

So not only was it contaminated, but you turned the faucet on,

it didn't come out.

So obviously, the people were the most important, Pat.

But even us as relief workers in here,

we were struggling just to flush the toilet.

We were having to carry in huge tanks of water,

just to pour into the toilet to be able to go to the restroom.

We couldn't, no one could take showers.

And think about it.

I mean, of course we have, we have great resources, RVs

and stuff like that.

But these people have lost everything they had.

And being without water in America,

we're not used to that at all.

And so it's just a struggle to survive.

The water's coming on and off at times

but it's still not at full capacity.

So, it, as well as in Port Arthur.

So again, we just need prayers for these folks,

not only for volunteer help, but just

to kind of survive the circumstances.

All right.

Thank you, Eric, and thank you for Jody.

God bless you, and Operation Blessing is there, folks.

And you can help.

They need help.

They need finances.

And so, it's an easy number.

1-800-700-7000.

And you can log on to cbn.com disaster relief,

and we're there.

Operation Blessing.

And we're not going anywhere, I might add.

We stay in these places until we get the job done.

So we are probably the largest mobilizer of volunteers.

So if our people are out there, we

have 1,000 or so volunteers working.

And we help mobilize them into distinct groups,

so they can go and help these people.

The people, for example, if they don't

bring that junk to the edge of the property,

FEMA won't pick it up.

So if it's 10 or 20 feet behind, they won't pick it up.

So we've got to help them, the elderly people for example,

bring this stuff out so that the FEMA people will pick it up.

Well, I also was thinking about Ruth and Sandy,

as she talked about them.

Who cuts out the drywall?

Who calls out the wet insulation?

I mean, somebody has to go into those homes and do that,

before mildew and mold starts--

Those volunteers do it, and God bless every one of them

that are coming down to help.

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