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Planned Parenthood CEO Makes Surprising Case for Supporting Life; Ben Shapiro Responds

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Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards

spoke out against President Trump's DACA decision,

and her statement says, here at Planned Parenthood we firmly

believe that every person has the right

to live, work, and raise a family freely

and without the threat of deportation or separation.

Joining us now for comment is Ben Shapiro.

He's editor in chief of the Daily Wire.

Ben, thanks a lot for joining us.

Sure.

Ben, you know, very interesting comment.

Planned Parenthood's annual report

indicates that since 2012, the year DACA was enacted,

they have performed over 1.3 million abortions

and these speeches are impromptu,

and yet here she is saying they have the right to live.

Why do you suppose that Cecile Richards made this statement?

Well, I mean, obviously, Cecile Richards

is is a basic believer in the idea that human beings are only

crowned with their humanity after they exit the womb.

Which is a rather arbitrary point to do it.

She doesn't even see the distinction.

I mean this is the blindness of a lot of folks on the Planned

Parenthood left.

They see a baby that's about to be born, and they say,

that baby does not have a right to life.

You cannot impede a woman from killing that baby.

But if an illegal immigrant mother brings the baby

across the border the day after the baby is born,

then that baby not only has a right to live,

that baby has a right to live in the United States.

So it's pretty amazing the obvious falsehood

of that perception of the world.

Well, and it's really interesting because when

someone who is pro-life hears right to live they think, wow,

you know.

But she really wasn't meaning that with those words.

We do know that DACA beneficiaries fall

within the lower socioeconomic status

and that Planned Parenthood often markets its services

to low income populations.

Do you see this as a marketing strategy?

I mean, everything that Planned Parenthood does

is a marketing strategy.

I mean, Planned Parenthood has only one overriding priority

and that's domestically and internationally,

and that overriding priority is providing abortions

to as many women as humanly possible.

I mean, the roots of Planned Parenthood

are eugenicist in nature.

Planned Parenthood doesn't like to consider itself a eugenicist

organization now, but the fact of the matter

is that the vast majority of babies they are aborting

would be born into more poverty driven homes.

So sure, everything they do is a marketing strategy.

I'm not sure this was specifically

a marketing strategy.

But, again, their goal is to reach out to every woman

all over the world as far as they can possibly

find them, and suggest that they're on their side

and that, as their friends, they recommend abortion

would be a nice thing to do.

President Trump's DACA decision this week

has angered Democrats and Republicans alike.

What is your take on what he did?

I thought it was a bad decision.

The reason I think it is a bad decision

is because he made a promise to his base

that he's going to get rid of President Obama's

executive amnesty.

He did not promise his base that he was then

going to push for legislative enshrinement

of that exact same executive amnesty.

Executive amnesty is bad policy because it basically treats

everyone as members of a class.

I don't think that's appropriate.

I think that we should have legislation that basically

allows us to look at a case by case basis

and say who's a benefit to the country

and therefore gets to stay, maybe

go to the back of the line, and who

is not a benefit of the country-- to the country

and ought to be removed from the country.

But President Trump seems to want to have it both ways.

He wants to be able to tell his base he got rid

of executive amnesty and then signal to the media,

and to the left, and to people who

tend to lean left on immigration that his heart is still

with the Dreamers.

It's a mixed up policy and the fact

that he's now talking openly with people

like Nancy Pelosi about how they can push forward the DREAM

Act should demonstrate exactly where

these political allegiances are currently aligned.

Well, he is The Art of the Deal guy

and this does seem to be playing to both camps, if you will.

I'm curious as to your position-- you're

saying that we should have some kind of deciding points

as to whether people should stay or go.

How would we decide if people should stay or go?

The easiest way to decide whether people would stay or go

is determine whether they've taken any form of welfare

over the past five years, for example.

Whether they have a job, whether they are

enrolled in school, whether they are soldiers in the military.

A lot of these things are elements of DACA itself,

but it extends it to an entire class of people

instead of simply saying, let's look

at you on an individualized basis

and decide whether you're a benefit economically

and societally to the country.

All right, well, a lot to think about.

A lot to follow right now.

Ben Shapiro, thanks for your time.

Thanks a lot.

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