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Jerusalem Dateline: 9/15/17 Israel Gears Up for Future War Against Hezbollah

Israeli reservists, soldiers train for a future war against Hezbollah; plus an exclusive interview with Sebastian Gorka, former Trump advisor on Islamic terrorism; and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu makes an historic visit to Latin America. Read Transcript


Chris: THIS WEEK ON

"JERUSALEM DATELINE,"

ISRAELI SOLDIERS TRAIN FOR

A FUTURE WAR WITH

HEZBOLLAH.

THE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL

IS A NATIONALE PRIORITY.

IT IS A NATIONAL MISSION.

AND EVERYONE PLAYS A PART.

Chris: PLUS AN

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH

DR. SEBASTIAN, A FORMER

ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT

TRUMP.

WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

THAT CATCHING AND KILLING

TERRORISTS IS ONLY PART OF

THE SCENARIO.

Chris: ALL THIS AND

MORE THIS WEEK ON

"JERUSALEM DATELINE."

HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "JERUSALEM

DATELINE."

I'M CHRIS MITCHELL.

THEY CALL IT THE WORLD

LEADING SUMMIT ON

COUNTER-TERRORISM, THE

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE

FOR COUNTER-TERRORISM HERE

IN ISRAEL HOSTS AN ANNUAL

SUMMIT THAT BRINGS

TOGETHER THE WORLD'S

LEADING AUTHORITIES IN THE

WAR ON ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

LATER IN THE PROGRAM,

WE'LL BRING YOU A

FASCINATING INTERVIEW WITH

A MUSLIM FROM PAKISTAN.

AT ONE TIME HE WAS A

PASSIONATE ENEMY OF

ISRAEL, BUT NOW HE HAS

BECOME A PRO-ISRAEL

ADVOCATE.

AND WE SAT DOWN WITH

DR. SEBASTIAN McGORCA.

HE RECENTLY RESIGNED FROM

HIS POSITION AT THE WHITE

HOUSE.

HERE HE EXPLAINS WHY HE

RESIGNED, AND WHAT HE

BELIEVES THE WEST NEEDS TO

DO TO DEFEAT ISLAMIC

TERRORISM.

DR. GORCA, THANKS FOR

JOINING US ON CBN NEWS.

MY PLEASURE.

Chris: THEY CALL THIS

THE WORLD'S SUMMIT ON

COUNTER-TERRORISM.

YOU'LL BE SPEAKING LATER

TODAY.

WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE?

MY MESSAGE IS TWO

THINGS, REALLY.

THE FIRST ONE IS A GREAT

DEAL HAS CHANGED IN THE

LAST SEVEN MONTHS WITH THE

NEW ADMINISTRATION IN

WASHINGTON.

BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

THAT CATCHING OR KILLING

TERRORISTS IS ONLY PART OF

THE FORMULA.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS STOP

PEOPLE WANTING TO BECOME

JIHADISTS, AND THAT'S NOT

A FUNCTION OF KILLING OR

ARRESTING PEOPLE.

THAT'S A FUNCTION OF

DESTROYING THE IDEOLOGY,

DELEGITIMIZING THE MESSAGE

OF JIHAD.

SO WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE

DID WITH COMMUNISM.

WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON

COUNTER-PROPAGANDA.

AND MY SECOND MESSAGE IS

ONE TO MY FORMER

COLLEAGUES INSIDE THE

BUILDING.

THE PRESIDENT WILL BE

VICTORIOUS.

WHEN HE SAYS, I WILL

DESTROY, I WILL OBLITERATE

YIS, THAISIS, THAT IS A PROMISE.

BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER

THAT THE ACTIONS WE TAKE

AGAINST SUNNI TERRORISM

SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN WAYS

THAT PROFIT THE SHI'A

REGIME OR THE MULLAHS IN

IRAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE

POLICY-MAKERS THAT IT IS

NOT JUST GROUPS LIKE IDEAL LIKELY AL

al-QAEDA OR ISIS THAT IS

THE PROBLEM.

Chris: AND THEY SAID

THEY WANTED TO BE

SINGLE-MINDED ABOUT

DEFEATING ISIS.

IS THAT A DANGER IF THEY

IGNORE THE DANGERS THAT

IRAN IS MAKING INSIDE

SYRIA AS WE SPEAK?

YEAH.

LOOK, I'M NOT WORRIED

ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OR HIS

CABINET MEMBERS NOT

UNDERSTANDING THE

SECONDARY EFFECT OF

DEFEATING ISIS IN IRAQ OR

SYRIA.

I WAS INSIDE -- I WASN'T

PART OF THE NATIONAL

SECURITY COUNCIL, BUT I

WENT TO THE NATIONAL

SECURITY COUNCIL MEETINGS,

AND I SAW MASSIVE INERTIA

INHERITED FROM THE LAST 16

YEARS, OF ATTITUDE, WHERE

PEOPLE SAID, THIS IS HOW

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR

ALMOST 20 YEARS, THEREFORE

IT MUST BE THE RIGHT WAY

OF DOING IT.

MY ANSWER IS, THERE IS A

REASON WHY A MAN WHO HAS

NEVER HELD POLITICAL

OFFICE AND WHO WAS NEVER A

MEMBER OF THE SENIOR

MEMBER OF THE ARMED

SERVICES, IS NOW THE MOST

POWERFUL PERSON IN THE

WORLD.

THE BUREAUCRACY NEEDS TO

UNDERSTAND THAT.

Chris: DO YOU THINK

THEY'RE GETTING THE

MESSAGE EVENTUALLY?

YOU MENTIONED THAT IN YOUR

LETTER OF RESIGNATION?

WHY DO YOU THINK I

RESIGNED.

THERE WERE REASONS WHY

STEVE AND I THOUGHT WE

COULD BE OF GREATER

SUPPORT TO THE PRESIDENT

FROM OUTSIDE THE WEST

WING, AS PRIVATE

INDIVIDUALS.

I WANT YOUR VIEWERS TO

UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT

STATE OF AFFAIRS INSIDE

THE WHITE HOUSE IS A

TEMPORARY STATE OF

AFFAIRS.

THE PRESIDENT IS ON

MESSAGE.

HE REACHED OUT TO ME THE

DAY AFTER I RESIGNED.

HE SAID, I'M STICKING TO

THE AGENDA AND CAN YOU

HELP ME FROM THE OUTSIDE?

MY RESPONSE TO THE

PRESIDENT WAS, AND IS, WE

WILL SUPPORT YOU FROM THE

OUTSIDE.

AND FACES FROM THE

ORIGINAL TEAM WILL

CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

Chris: WE'LL HEAR

MORE IN THE COMING WEEKS

FROM DR. GORCA ABOUT THE

IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL, AND

WHY HE IS SO PASSIONATE

ABOUT SECURING FREEDOM FOR

ISRAELI PEOPLE.

ONE OF ITS GREATEST

ENEMIES SITS RIGHT ON ITS

NORTHERN BORDER,

HEZBOLLAH.

AS THE CIVIL WAR IN SYRIA

WINDS DOWN, ISRAEL IS

GEARING UP FOR A FUTURE

WAR WITH ITS

IRANIAN-BACKED HEZBOLLAH

ORGANIZATION.

IT HAS TRANSFORMED INTO A

MUCH MORE FORMIDABLE

ENEMY.

I JOINED AN I.D.F.

BATTALION AS THEY TRAINED

FOR THEIR POTENTIAL

BATTLES TO COME.

[YELLING]

Chris: THESE SOLDIERS

ARE TRAINING WHAT IT WOULD

BE LIKE TO TAKE OVER A

HEZBOLLAH-CONTROLLED

VILLAGE IN SOUTH LEBANON.

MANY EXPERTS BELIEVE IT IS

NOT A QUESTION OF IF, BUT

A QUESTION OF WHEN, FOR A

FUTURE WAR WITH HEZBOLLAH.

WE ARE DOING OUR BEST

TO GET READY FOR THE NEXT

ROUND WITH HEZBOLLAH.

SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

FOR US, TO TRAIN OUR GUYS

TO BE READY FOR THAT DAY.

Chris: THIS IS AL

INRAHIM, A VILLAGE LOCATED

IN NORTHERN ISRAEL, AND IT

IS USED TO TRAIN SOLDIERS

IN URBAN WARFARE.

WE ARE A NORTHERN UNIT.

SO WE TRAIN IN TERRAIN

THAT IS MORE SIMILAR TO

THE NORTH.

Chris: IN A FUTURE

CONFLICT, THE I.D.

BELIEVES THEY MAY IN

INFILTRATE INTO NORTHERN

ISRAEL AND ATTACK

CIVILIANS.

THEY MAY NEED TO TAKE OVER

PART OF SOUTHERN LEBANON

TEMPORARILY TO SECURE ITS

OWN BORDER.

HEZBOLLAH HAS MORPHED INTO

A SEMI ARMY WITH 40,000

WELL-TRAINED FIGHTERS.

HEZBOLLAH WAS, BEFORE

THE SYRIA WAR, MAINLY A

LOCAL FORCE THAT WAS ABLE

TO CONDUCT GUERRILLA

OPTIONS AND DEFENSIVE

ACTIVITY.

TODAY IT HAS GAINED AN

ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF COMBAT

EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD,

ESPECIALLY IN URBAN

COMBAT.

Chris: THIS EXERT EXPERT

SAYS THE TERROR GROUP HAS

BEEN ABLE TO REBUILD ITS

DEFENSES IN SOUTH LEBANON,

AND HOLD THE LEBANESE

GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE

HOSTAGE TO ITS AGENDA.

IT HAS ALSO BEEN FIGHTING.

HEZBOLLAH HAS BEEN ABLE

TO GAIN A STRATEGIC FOOT

HOLD IN SYRIA THAT

PORTENDS TO THE RISK OF

THE GOLAN HEIGHTS.

Chris: THAT'S WHAT

THESE RESERVISTS ARE

TRAINING HERE.

HERE IS THE COMMANDER OF

THIS BATTALION.

THEY HAVE TO GET READY.

WE CALL IT FROM ZERO TO

100, IN ONE DAY OR A HALF

DAY.

THEY WORK -- THEIR

ENGINEERS ARE HERE, AND

YOU CAN SEE PROGRAMMERS,

AND SOCIAL WORKERS IN THE

MORNING, AND BY EVENING,

THEY LOOK LIKE ME E AND AND

SHOULD ACT LIKE ME AND GET

READY TO FIGHT.

Chris: THIS MAN CAME

TO DEFEND HIS COUNTRY.

THE MOTIVATION IS TO

PROTECT OUR FAMILY,

PROTECT OUR HOMELAND,

PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

THAT'S WHY EVERYONE

COMPANIES.

WE HAVE LAWYERS,

UNIVERSITY STUDENTS,

ACCOUNTANTS -- EVERYONE

COMES TO PLAY A PART.

Chris: THEY HAVE

SUPPLIEIRAN HASSUPPLIED HEZBOLLAH WITH

MORE ROCKETS.

THE I.D.F. HELD ITS

LARGEST EXERCISE IN NEARLY

20 YEARS, TRAINING TENS OF

THOUSANDS OF ISRAELI

SOLDIERS AND RESERVISTS TO

FIGHT THE NEXT WAR AGAINST

HEZBOLLAH.

THE AIR FORCE, NAVY, AND

GROUND TROOPS PARTICIPATED

IN THE TWO-WEEK DRILL,

INTENDED ON COORDINATING

THE VARIOUS BRANCHES OF

THE I.D.F.

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT

WHAT HEZBOLLAH IS IN 2017,

YOU UNDERSTAND WHY ISRAEL

IS SO CONCERNED AND WHY IT

IS, THEREFORE, NECESSARY

THAT WESTERN FOREIGN

POLICY, LED BY THE UNITED

STATES, FOCUSES ON CUTTING

HEZBOLLAH BACK DOWN TO

SIZE.

Chris: COMING UP, THE

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER

MAKES AN HISTORIC VISIT TO

LATIN-AMERICA.

AND WE ARE BEGINNING

THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA, AND

NOT ACCIDENTALLY, WE BEGIN

Chris: ONE OF THE

MYTHS ABOUT ISRAEL TODAY

IS THAT IT IS ISOLATED

FROM THE REST OF THE

WORLD.

HOWEVER, IN RECENT YEARS

ISRAEL HAS REACHED OUT TO

MAJOR COUNTRIES, LIKE

CHINA AND INDIA.

AND FORGED NEW

RELATIONSHIPS WITH MANY

AFRICAN NATIONS.

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS ONE

OF THE PRIME MOVERS BEHIND

THESE NEW DIPLOMATIC

VENTURES, AND MANY OF

THESE NATIONS LOOK TO

ISRAEL FOR ITS TECHNOLOGY

AND ADVANCES IN SECURITY.

ISRAELI HIGH-TECH, IRAN,

AND HEZBOLLAH TOPPED THE

AGENDA OF NETANYAHU'S

LATEST TRIP, AN HISTORIC

TRIP TO LATIN-AMERICA.

JULIE STAAL HAS THAT

STORY.

Julie: IT'S THE FIRST

TIME AN ISRAELI PRIME

MINISTER VISITED A WESTERN

HEMISPHERE COUNTRY SOUTH

OF THE UNITED STATES.

FROM ARGENTINA TO COLOMBIA

TO MEXICO, THEY ROLLED OUT

THE RED CARPET.

AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO

NEAR THE DAWN OF A NEW

ERA, AND NOT ACCIDENTALLY,

WE BEGIN IT HERE, IN

ARGENTINA.

THE PRIME MINISTER'S

VISIT IS LADEN WITH

SYMBOLISM.

Julie: NETANYAHU

STARTED HIS TRIP AT

MEMORIALS MARKING IRAN AND

HEZBOLLAH-BACKED TERROR

ATTACKS.

ONE TARGETING THE ISRAELI

EMBASSY IN 1992, AND TWO

YEARS LATER AT THE JEWISH

COMMUNITY BUILDING.

MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE WERE

KILLED IN THOSE ATTACKS.

IRAN'S TERROR HAS NOT

STOPPED SINCE THEN.

THEY HAVE A TERROR MACHINE

THAT ENCOMPASSES THE

ENTIRE WORLD, WITH THEIR

SIDEKICKS, HEZBOLLAH.

IN THE CASE OF IRAN, IT IS

NOT MERELY TERROR, BUT THE

REQUEST FOR NUCLEAR

WEAPONS THAT SHOULD

CONCERNS US AND SHOULD

CONCERN THE ENTIRE

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.

Julie: THEY SAID IRAN

WOULD FIGURE IN ALL OF

NETANYAHU'S CONVERSATIONS.

IRAN WE MAINS THE MOST

STRATEGIC THREAT, BUT ALSO

BECAUSE IN LATIN-AMERICA,

INCREASING HEZBOLLAH

COOPERATES WITH ORGANIZED

CRIME NARCO-TERRORISM

CONVERGENCE, TO RAISE

FUNDS FOR ITS GROWING

BUDGET.

Julie: ACCORDING TO

HIM, IT INDICATES

NETANYAHU'S WANTING TO

EXPAND RELATIONSHIPS IS

WORKING.

ISRAEL IS GAINING NEW

FRIENDS OUTSIDE OF THE

WESTERN WORLD, COUNTRIES

THAT ARE NO LONGER

AUTOMATICALLY VOTING

AGAINST ISRAEL AT THE U.N.

THAT INCLUDES NEW FRIENDS

IN LATIN-AMERICA.

SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT

TRIP.

TODAY THE FUTURE

BELONGS TO THOSE WHO

INNOVATE.

ISRAEL IS AN INNOVATION

NATION.

SOME SAY IT'S THE

INNOVATION NATION.

Julie: AND THAT

SHOWED IN AGREEMENTS WITH

COLOMBIA AND ARGENTINA TO

SHARE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH

AND EXPERTISE IN FIELDS

LIKE AGRICULTURE, WATER,

CYBER-SECURITY, AND

HEALTH.

WE CAN MAKE OUR AIR

CLEANER, OUR WATER SAFER

TO DRINK.

WE CAN PRODUCE MORE MILK

PER COW -- THAT'S ACTUALLY

WHAT ISRAEL DOES BETTER

THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN

THE WORLD.

WE CAN HARVEST CROPS IN

WAYS THAT ARE

UNIMAGINABLE.

Julie: NETANYAHU

PROMISED IT WOULD BE MUCH

SOONER THAN 70 YEARS FOR

THE NEXT VISIT OF AN

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER TO

THIS PART OF THE WORLD.

JULIE STAAL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Chris: FROM MEXICO,

NETANYAHU HEADED FOR THE

U.S. BEFORE THE JEWISH

HOLIDAY, RASHOSHANAN,

WHERE HE'LL ADDRESS THE

U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

IT IS LIKELY HE WILL

CONTINUE TO TELL THE WORLD

BODY ABOUT THE THREAT IRAN

AND HEZBOLLAH POSE TO THE

MIDDLE EAST AND BEYOND.

FORMER UNDER SECRETARY OF

DEFENSE FOR POLICY,

DOUGLAS FIFE, THE SAT DOWN

WITH CBN NEWS AND SHARED

HIS INSIGHTS ABOUT THIS

DUAL THREAT.

IRAN IS A MAJOR PROBLEM

TO THE UNITED STATES FOR

MULTIPLE REASONS.

IN RECENT YEARS, THE FOCUS

HAS TENDED TO BE NARROWLY

ON THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR

PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN

ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT

ISSUE, BUT THAT IS STILL A

NARROW FOCUS BECAUSE THE

IRANIANS ARE DOING MANY

THINGS IN ADDITION TO

THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM THAT

ARE INIMICLE TO AMERICAN

INTEREST.

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THETHERE SUPPORT FOR T
HE

HOUTHIS IN YEMEN, AND

THEIR SUPPORT FOR ASSAD IN

SYRIA, AND THE WAY THEY'RE

BUILDING THE HEZBOLLAH'S

CAPABILITIES IN LEBANON.

THERE ARE THREATS TO

ISRAEL.

THERE ARE THREATS AGAINST

THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS

WITH RESPECT TO IRAN.

Chris: UP NEXT, A

FASCINATING INTERVIEW WITH

A FORMER ENEMY OF ISRAEL,

WHO HAS BECOME ONE OF ITS

Chris: THE ANNUAL

SUMMIT BY THE

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE

FOR COUNTER-TERRORISM, WE

WERE INTRODUCED TO A VERY

BRAVE AND REMARKABLE MAN.

HIS NAME IS NOTAHRI.

HE WAS RAISED TO HATE

ISRAEL, AND DID SO FOR

MUCH OF HIS LIFE.

HOWEVER, HE HAD A

REMARKABLE TRANSFORMATION,

AND NOW IS A PROUD AND

PASSIONATE DEFENDER OF THE

JEWISH STATE.

WE SAT DOWN WITH HIM AND

LISTENED TO HIS UNIQUE

STORY.

Chris: THANKS FOR

JOINING US ON CBN NEWS.

IT IS A REAL HONOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chris: THIS IS YOUR

FIRST TIME TO ISRAEL.

WHAT ARE YOUR IMPRESSIONS?

IM BELIEVE.

UNBELIEVABLE.

I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT

KIND OF BEAUTY IN ISRAEL.

BECAUSE LOOKING AT A

PICTURE AND BEING THERE IN

PERSON ARE TWO DIFFERENT

THINGS.

THE SECOND THING,

OBVIOUSLY, I WAS THINKING

ISRAEL IS LIKE MY HOME.

THIS IS A COUNTRY FOR I

WAS FIGHTING FOR YEARS,

THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA,

THROUGH MY ORGANIZATION,

THROUGH MY WRITING,

THROUGH MY INTERVIEWS, MY

LECTURING AROUND THE

U.K. -- I WAS FIGHTING FOR

THE LAND.

IN THE LAND, I LOST MY

FAMILY.

IN THE LAND, I LOST MY

COUNTRY -- I CAN'T GO BACK

TO PAKISTAN ANYMORE.

I SACRIFICED A LOT OF

THINGS FOR THIS LAND.

THIS IS THE UNITED

KINGDOM, AND THAT'S MY

HOME.

REALLY, I FEEL AT HOME

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HERE,

HOW THEY HONORED ME, HOW

THEY WELCOMED ME.

Chris: BUT IT WASN'T

ALWAYS LIKE THAT.

HOW WERE YOU RAISED TO

THINK AND FEEL ABOUT THE

JEWS AND ISRAEL?

AS A PAKISTANI, BORN IN

PAKISTAN AND RAISED THERE,

EVERY SINGLE PERSON HATES

ISRAEL BECAUSE OF THE

PALESTINIAN CONFLICT.

THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW

ANYTHING ABOUT ISRAEL.

THEY NEVER HEARD ANY

POSITIVE NEWS ABOUT

ISRAEL.

Chris: SO YOU WERE

TRAINED AND INDOCTRINATED

TO HATE ISRAEL, AND NOW

YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR

ISRAEL.

WHAT CHANGED?

THE NUMBER THING IS

I.C.T.

THE COUNTER-TERRORISM, THE

I.C.T. -- THAT PRETTY MUCH

CHANGED MY MIND.

WHEN I -- SUDDENLY I

RECEIVED AN E-MAIL OF

WELCOME.

EVEN I DON'T HAVE ANY

EXPERIENCE OF

COUNTER-TERRORISM.

I JUST DID MY PSYCHOLOGY

DEGREE FROM OXFORD.

I SAID, LET'S TRY.

LET'S ENTER INTO THEIR

SYSTEM AND SEE HOW IT

WORKS.

ON ONE HAND THERE ARE

TERRORISTS, AND ON ONE

HAND THEY'RE TEACHING IN

THE WORLD HOW TO CONQUER

TERRORISM.

I SAID, LET'S SEE.

WHEN I DECIDED TO STUDY

COUNTER-TERRORISM, I HAD

THREE INSTITUTES IN THREE

COUNTRIES IN MY MIND.

ONE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM,

AND THE SECOND WAS THE

UNITED STATES.

AND THE THIRD ONE WAS

ISRAEL.

WHEN I REFERRED TO ISRAEL,

THERE WAS A BIG LIST IN

FRONT OF THE COMPUTER.

TERRORISM INCIDENT,

INCIDENT, INCIDENT, EVERY

DAY, EVERY WEEK, EVERY

MONTH, ON AND ON.

I SAID, WOW!

THEN I SAID, OKAY, FIND

TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS.

I NEVER FOUND ANY

TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IN

THE NAME OF JEWISH

RELIGION.

BUT WHEN I TYPED ISLAMIC

TERRORISM, I CAN'T GIVE

YOU A FIGURE.

IF YOU LOOK EVEN AT

PAKISTAN, THE GOVERNMENT

BANS ALL MUSICIANS.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 700.

WE WERE CALLED TERRORISTS.

NOW, THE QUESTION IS --

THE PEOPLE SAY, THEY ARE

GENOCIDE.

IT IS NOT A GENOCIDE.

480 ROCKETS AND

MISSILES -- AND YOU'RE

STILL CALLING ON THEM TO

STOP THEM.

AND IT DOESN'T STOP.

CAN WE CALL IT GENOCIDE?

NO.

THEN I SAY, IF ANYTHING

HAPPENS -- AND IT HAPPENS

IN PAKISTAN -- SOME

TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

ARE TAKING OVER PAKISTANI

PLACES, AND THEY WIPED OUT

TOWNS.

Chris: HOW HAVE YOU

FOUND MUSLIMS TREATED IN

ISRAEL?

THEY ARE TREATED RIGHT.

THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS.

THEY HAVE ISRAELI

PASSPORTS, AND THEY TRAVEL

ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

THEY ARE LIVING IN A

PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT.

THEY'RE WORKING SIDE BY

SIDE WITH THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

THEY ARE WORKING IN THE

I.D.F.

WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT

ISRAELI-MUSLIM SOCIETY TO

MY PAKISTANI PEOPLE, THEY

SAY, NO, YOU'RE LYING.

WE NEVER HEARD OF MUSLIM

ISRAELIS.

WE HEARD PALESTINIAN

MUSLIMS.

BUT ONE PERSON SAID, WE

HAVE A MUSLIM KINGDOM HERE

AS WELL.

IF I COME HERE, THE

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN

ISRAEL AND THE RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM IN THE UNITED

KINGDOM -- THERE IS A BIG

DIFFERENCE.

ONE DIFFERENCE IS THE

GOVERNMENT, NATIONAL, DOES

NOT PAY IMAMS.

BUT IN ISRAEL, THE PEOPLE

THAT CLAIM THEY'RE

MUSLIMS -- 400 MUSLIMS ARE

PROTECTED BY THE

GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL.

THEIR IMAM ARE ALL PAID AS

WORKING, LIKE IN PAKISTAN

OR SAUDI ARABIA.

AND WHEN THEY RETIRE, THEY

GET A FULL BENEFICIAL

PENSION AND EVERYTHING.

Chris: IT IS GREAT TO

MEET YOU.

YOU'RE A BRAVE MAN.

AND GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Chris: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

> WE'LL HAVE MORE OF HIS

FASCINATING STORY IN THE

FUTURE.

ALSO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO

KNOW MORE ABOUT THE

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE

FOR COUNTER-TERRORISM, YOU

CAN LOG ONLINE TO

ICT.org.IL.

>

COMING UP ONE THE

Chris: HAVE YOU EVER

HEARD OF A CONCRETE PIANO?

I DIDN'T, UNTIL OUR SOCIAL

MEDIA PRODUCER CAME ACROSS

ONE HERE IN JERUSALEM.

IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF

THE MANY UNIQUE SITES YOU

CAN SEE HERE IN THE CITY.

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[INSTRUMENTAL]

HEARING THE MUSIC OF

THE PIANO IS VERY SOOTHING

AND VERY RELAXING.

I STARTED RELAXING MYSELF.

IT'S RELAXING.

IT'S JUST LIKE I'M AT

HOME.

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[INSTRUMENTAL]

Chris: PERHAPS WHEN

YOU COME TO JERUSALEM, YOU

CAN SIT DOWN AND PLAY THE

PIANO, TOO.

> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS

EDITION OF "JERUSALEM

DATELINE."

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