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700 Club Interactive - September 22, 2017

Grammy award-winning musician Charlie Daniels discusses his faith, life and God’s grace. Read Transcript


Gordon: A 13-YEAR-OLD

STUMBLES INTO A SEXUAL

ONLINE CHATROOM.

WHAT IS THAT?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

SO THERE IS AN INTRIGUE

PART OF IT.

Gordon: AND HER

INTRIGUE BECOMES A

FULL-FLEDGE ADDICTION.

THERE IS N AN ESCAPE.

I CAN GO ON THERE AND

PRETEND NONE OF MY LIFE IS

HAPPENING.

Gordon:

PLUS...CHARLIE DANIELS

JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT

GOD'S GRACE, ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

A MICHIGAN FARMER AND HIS

FAMILY RECEIVED SOME GOOD

NEWS.

JUST LAST WEEK A FEDERAL

JUDGE RULED THAT THE

COUNTRY MILL FARMS IS

ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THE

EAST LANCING FARMERS'

MARKET, DESPITE THEIR BAN

LATE LAST YEAR.

BACK IN AUGUST, EAST

LANSING OFFICIALS EXCLUDED

THE FARMERS OWNER, STEVE

STEMS, FROM SELLING HIS

ORGANIC APPLES BECAUSE OF

A Facebook POST.

HE STATEDED HIS PERSONAL

BELIEF THAT MARRIAGE,

BASED ON THE BIBLE, IS

BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

STEVE NEVER DECLINED TO

SERVE ANYONE AT THE

MARKET, NOR DID HE BREAK

ANY LAWS.

WELL, COUNTRY MILL FARM IS

NOW ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN

ONE OF THEIR LARGEST

ANNUAL EVENTS, THE

MICHIGAN APPLE FESTIVAL.

AND THAT TAKES PLACE THIS

WEEKEND.

AND WHAT A WONDERFUL

THING.

WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE IN

AMERICA WE ALL ENJOY FREE

SPEECH.

AND WE HAVE THE FREE RIGHT

OF EXERCISING THAT SPEECH.

AND WE SHOULDN'T BE

EXCLUDED BECAUSE OF OUR

BELIEFS.

WE ALL HAVE FREEDOM OF

CONSCIENCE.

AND WHAT A WONDERFUL

THING, TO RECOGNIZE THAT

WE LIVE IN A FREE LAND,

AND WHAT A WONDERFUL

THING.

> WELL, MILLIONS OF

SYRIANS ARE STILL

DISPLACED FROM YEARS OF

CIVIL WAR.

HERE IS A POSITIVE STORY

OF A SYRIAN REFUGEE

FAMILY.

18 MONTHS AGO, THE HADAD

FAMILY'S CHOCOLATE FACTORY

WAS DESTROYED BY A BOMB.

THE FAMILY OF NINE MOVED

TO NOVA SCOTIA WITH

NOTHING BUT THE CLOTHES ON

THEIR BACKS.

WELL, JUSTIN TRUDEAU

MENTIONED THE FAMILY AT

LAST SEPTEMBER'S UNITED

NATIONS' SUMMIT ON

REFUGEES, AND NOW BUSINESS

IS BOOMING.

THE FAMILY CREDITS THE

PRIME MINISTER AND THE

WELCOMING PEOPLE OF THEIR

NEW HOME.

WE CAME HERE TO THIS

COUNTRY FROM NOTHING.

IT IS WONDERFUL.

WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY TO

HAVE THEM HERE.

SO HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE

SUCCEED.

THEY'RE REALLY AN EXAMPLE

FOR A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.

I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL

THAT THEY ARE NOW

PROVIDING JOBS FOR LOCAL

PEOPLE.

THAT THEY'VE COME HERE AND

NOW ARE GIVING JOBS.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

Gordon: WELL, DEMAND

FOR THE CHOCOLATE

REPORTEDLY MULTIPLIED

SIX-FOLD, ALLOWING THE

FAMILY TO SELL THEIR

"PEACE BY CHOCOLATE"

THROUGH THE POWER OF THE

INTERNET ACROSS CANADA AND

THE ENTIRE WORLD.

> WELL, POLICE IN

PENNSYLVANIA ARE HANDING

OUTEOUT TICKETS.

HOWEVER, THESE TICKETS ARE

NOT FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

THEY ARE FOR KIDS WHO DO

THE RIGHT THING.

SERGEANT KIRKWAY SAYS IT

IS A GREAT WAY FOR THE

POLICE TO HAVE POSITIVE

INTERACTION.

I CAUGHT YOU DOING

SOMETHING RIGHT, AND I'M

GOING TO GIVE YOU A TICKET

FOR WORKING REALLY HARD.

THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOU

A SUCCESS.

WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN

THEY DON'T KNOW OTHERS ARE

WATCHING SHOWS THEIR

CHARACTER THE MOST.

Gordon: WELL, THE

TICKETS ARE WORTH $10, AND

CAN BE PLACED INTO A KIDS'

CLUB SAVINGS ACCOUNT WITH

THE COATESVILLE SAVINGS

BANK.

THE BANK'S PARTNERSHIP

WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT

HAS SET ASIDE $1,000 FOR

THE INITIATIVE.

I HOPE THIS GETS

DUPLICATED.

WHAT A WONDERFUL THING.

SO OFTEN COMMUNITIES AND

THE POLICE -- IT'S ALMOST

LIKE THEY THINK THEY'RE AT

WAR WITH EACH OTHER.

WHAT A GREAT WAY TO BREAK

DOWN THOSE BARRIERS.

> FROM ENCOURAGING YOUNG

PEOPLE TO ENCOURAGING A

MAN IN HIS FINAL DAYS.

TAKE A LOOK.

*

Gordon: HIS SMILE

SAYS IT ALL.

> UP NEXT, HE IS AN

AWARD-WINNING COUNTRY

MUSIC HALL OF FAME.

HIS 60-YEAR CAREER HAS HAD

SOME HIGHS AND SOME LOWS.

CHARLIE DANIELS JOINS US

IN THE STUDIO TO TALK

ABOUT IT.

*

Gordon: WELL, FEW

MUSICAL ARTISTS IS BOAST

THE KIND OF CAREER

LONGEVITY CHARLIE DANIELS

HAS EXPERIENCED.

AFTER 60 YEARS, HIS

EVIDENT PASSION FOR MUSIC

AND LOVE FOR GOD HAS BEEN

HIS RECIPE FOR SUCCESS.

Reporter: CHARLIE

DANIELS' CAREER SPANS 60

YEARS, WHICH INCLUDES

SELLING MORE THAN

20 MILLION ALBUMS AND

WINNING A GRAMMY FOR "THE

DEVIL WENT DOWN TO

GEORGIA."

LAST YEAR CHARLIE WAS

INDUCTED INTO THE COUNTRY

MUSIC HALL OF FAME.

CHARLIE PUTS DOWN THE

FIDDLE AND TAKES UP A PEN.

HE SHARES ABOUT LIFE FROM

THE EARLY DAYS, TO HIS

RISE TO MUSIC STARDOM, IN

HIS BOOK, "NEVER LOOK AT

THE EMPTY SEATS."

Gordon: THE LIVING

LEGEND, CHARLIE DANIELS,

IT IS AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU

WITH US.

GORDON, IT IS ALWAYS A

PLEASURE.

THANK.

Gordon: YOU HAVE COME

OUT WITH A BOOK, "NEVER

LOOK AT THE EMPTY SEATS,"

AND IT IS A MEMOIR OF YOUR

LIFE.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU

GREW UP A FARMER IN NORTH

CAROLINA.

YEAH.

MY BACKGROUND -- MY FOLKS,

BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY,

COME FROM FARMERS AND

TIMBER PEOPLE.

MY DAD KNEW MORE ABOUT A

PINE TREE THAN ANYBODY

EVER SAW.

HE WAS AS PASSIONATE ABOUT

THAT AS I AM ABOUT MY

MUSIC.

Gordon: SO HOW DID

YOU GET STARTED?

I WENT UP TO A FRIEND

OF MINE'S HOUSE ONE DAY.

I HAD KNOWN HIM FOR YEARS.

AND HE HAD AN OLD GUITAR.

WHERE HE GOT IT, HOW LONG

HE HAD IT, I HAD NO IDEA.

IT WAS A TERRIBLE OLD BIG

STELLER, AND THE STRINGS

WERE RUSTED ABOVE THE

NECK, BUT HE KNEW ABOUT

LITERALLY TWO AND A HALF

CHORDS.

HE COULD PLAY "G" AND "C,"

AND IF STOPPED AND PUT HIS

FINGERS RIGHT -- ANYWAY.

I SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO

TEACH ME THAT.

I ALWAYS WANTED TO LEARN

HOW.

SO IT STARTED THAT DAY,

RIGHT THING.

I SAID, YOU'VE THE GOT TO

TEACH ME THOSE.

AND I WORKED ON LEARNING

THOSE THREE CHORDS, AND

HIM AND ME STARTED HANGING

AROUND ANYBODY THAT COULD

PLAY ANY INSTRUMENT AT

ALL, ESPECIALLY GUITARS,

IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH.

WE KEPT PICKING UP CHORDS

AND PLAYING, AND GOT

TOGETHER SOME OTHER GUYS

WHO WANTED TO DO THE SAME

THING, AND THEY PLAYED

DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS, AND

WE PUT A LITTLE BAND

TOGETHER.

I SPENT 70 -- ABOUT -- IT

WAS ABOUT 65 YEARS AGO.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW IS

YOU NEVER TOOK A LESSON IN

HOW TO PLAY THE FIDDLE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME,

YOU'RE WORLD FAMOUS.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR

THAT.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT

I HAVE THE SOUND THAT I

HAVE IS BECAUSE I NEVER

LEARNED TO PLAY.

I NEVER HAD A LESSON ON

HOW TO HOLD THE FIDDLE,

HOW TO HOLD THE BOW.

I HOLD THE FIDDLE WRONG.

I HOLD THE BOW WRONG.

I PUT TOO MUCH PRESSURE ON

THE BOW WHICH CREATES A

SOUND MOST PEOPLE DON'T

WANT, BUT IT WORKS FOR ME.

I HAVE KIDS ASK ME

SOMETIMES, AND I SAID,

DON'T LOOK AT ME.

IF IT WORKS FOR ME, IT

PROBABLY WON'T WORK FOR

YOU.

LOOK AT THE GUYS WHO HOLD

IT LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO

BE HELD.

I'M TOO OLD TO CHANGE NOW,

EVEN IF I WANTED TO, BUT I

REALLY DON'T WANT TO.

Gordon: HOW DID YOU

LEARN TO PLAY BY EAR?

I JUST WANTED TO BAD

ENOUGH.

I'M NOT A NATURAL

MUSICIAN.

Gordon: IT SOUNDS

LIKE YOU ARE, IF YOU CAN

DO IT BY EAR?

I WISH I WAS.

WHEN I SAY NATURAL

MUSICIAN -- I MEAN I HEAR

THINGS, BUT ACHIEVING ANY

PROFICIENCY ON IT -- IT

TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO

LEARN THOSE FIRST THREE

CHORDS.

NOWADAYS, I'VE GOT GUYS IN

MY BAND THAT PICK THINGS

UP JUST LIKE THAT.

IF WE DO A NEW SONG, IT

TAKES ME A LITTLE LONGER

FOR ME TO GET MY PART

TOGETHER, AND THAT'S WHAT

I'M SPEAKING OF NOT BEING

A NATURAL MUSICIAN.

Gordon: I THINK

YOU'RE A NATURAL

SONGWRITER?

BUT THAT IS ALSO LIKE A

MUSCLE.

THE MORE YOU EXERCISE

IT --

Gordon: ANYTHING IN

LIFE, IF YOU'VE GOT A

NATURAL TALENT FOR IT AND

YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU

DON'T DEVELOP IT.

WHAT GOT YOU WRITING

SONGS?

I WAS VERY FORTUNATE.

IN 1959 I WENT AND MADE

THE FIRST TRIP I EVER DID

TO CALIFORNIA.

I WAS JUST A KID AND WE

WERE GOING OUT THERE TO

PLAY.

I STOPPED IN FORT WORTH,

TEXAS, TO SEE A FRIEND OF

MINE, AND HE INTRODUCED ME

TO A GUY NAMED BOB

JOHNSTON.

AND HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE

IT IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS,

WHICH HE FINALLY DID IN A

BIG WAY, BUT I STARTED

WRITING SONGS WITH HIM.

AND WE JUST KIND OF HIT IT

OFF.

BUT HE WAS MUCH MORE

ACCOMPLISHED THAN I WAS.

HE WAS MUCH MORE DEMANDING

THAN I WAS.

WHEN WE WOULD WRITE

TOGETHER, HE WOULD INSIST

WE GET EVERY WORD LIKE IT

WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, EVERY

NOTE OF MUSIC LIKE IT WAS

SUPPOSED TO BE.

THAT GAVE ME A WORK ETHIC

AND ATTITUDE TOWARDS MY

WRITING.

I HAVE KEPT BITS AND

PIECES OF SONGS IN MY MIND

FOR AS LONG AS 14 YEARS,

JUST KEEPING IT THERE

UNTIL IT FINALLY FITS.

IT IS LIKE A SQUARE PEG

AND YOU HAVE TO FIND A

SQUARE HOLE TO PUT IT IN.

Gordon: IT DIDN'T

TAKE YOU LONG -- IF YOU

SAY YOU STARTED WRITING

SONGS IN 1959, AND IN JUST

A COUPLE OF YEARS, ELVIS

PRESLEY, THE NUMBER ONE,

THE KING, IS SINGING YOUR

SONGS.

WELL, THAT WAS A SONG I

WROTE WITH BOB JOHNSTON.

BOB AND MYSELF WROTE THAT.

WE WROTE IT IN 1962, AND

ELVIS RECORDED IT IN 1963.

AND IT WAS BY FAR THE

BIGGEST THING THAT EVER

HAPPENED TO ME AT THAT

TIME.

ELVIS PRESLEY WAS THE

BIGGEST ARTIST IN THE

WORLD.

Gordon: YEAH.

HE IS STILL KING.

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?

WAS THERE A HAT BIG ENOUGH

FOR YOUR HEAD?

I WAS SO FLABBERGASTED

BY THE WHOLE THING, WHAT

IT DID FOR ME WAS I WANTED

TO GO BACK AND WRITE MORE

SONGS.

I WANTED MORE OF THAT.

Gordon: OKAY.

THINGS ENCOURAGED ME TO

WORK A LITTLE HARDER AND

DIG A LITTLE DEEPER, AND

THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT I, AT THAT TIME, DOING

THAT SONG, HAVING ELVIS

RECORD IT, WAS ONE OF THE

BIGGEST THINGS TO EVER

HAPPEN TO ME, AND THEN

PLAYING ON THREE BOB DYLAN

ALBUMS --

Gordon: AND THOSE ARE

THREE LEGENDARY ALBUMS.

SOME CONSIDER THEM HIS

BEST.

"NATIONAL SKYLINE," TO

ME, IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT

ALBUM FOR BOB DYLAN.

HE WAS CONSTANTLY

REINVENTING HIMSELF.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE

TIMES WHEN THE INVENTION

WAS PRETTY DOGGONE

INCREDIBLE.

HE WAS ALWAYS KIND ENOUGH

TO PUT THE STUDIO

MUSICIANS' NAMES ON HIS

ALBUMS.

HE IS THE KIND OF ARTIST

THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW

ABOUT.

SO THEY WOULD LITERALLY

READ THE LINER NOTES.

AND IT GAVE YOU A

LEGITIMACY WITH A LOT OF

PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WOULD SAY, YOU MUST

PLAY PRETTY GOOD IF YOU

PLAY WITH DYLAN.

Gordon: DID HE TEACH

YOU ANYTHING ABOUT

SONGWRITING?

NO.

HE JUST CAME IN.

HE WOULD COME IN AND SING

HIS SONGS, AND WE WOULD

ALL STAND THERE WITH OUR

MOUTHS OPEN, LISTEN TO

HIM.

I COMPARE HIM TO WILLIAM

SHAKESPEARE.

THEY HAVE A UNIQUE WAY OF

PUTTING THE ENGLISH

LANGUAGE TOGETHER.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY EVER

PUT THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE

TOGETHER QUITE LIKE BOB

DYLAN DID.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS

TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF

TIMES, BUT IT SURE WORKED

OUT FOR HIM.

Gordon: THOSE ARE

OBVIOUSLY BIG BREAKS.

FOR ANY MUSICIAN TO SAY, I

PLAYED ON A BOB DYLAN

ALBUM, YOU CAN SAY YOU'VE

ACHIEVED THE PINNACLE, BUT

YOU WENT ON FROM THAT.

I WENT TO NASHVILLE

THINKING I WOULD BE A

STUDIO MUSICIAN AND RECORD

PRODUCER, AND KIND OF

BEHIND THE SCENES.

BUT I'VE COME TO FIND

OUT -- I'VE DONE THIS A

COUPLE OF TIMES IN MY

LIFE -- THAT'S NOT WHAT I

WANTED.

MY PLACE IS ON STAGE.

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY

MIND ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHERE I LOVE TO BE,

WHAT I'M BEST AT.

I'VE DEVOTED MY LIFE TO

LEARNING HOW TO ENTERTAIN,

AND THERE IS NOTHING I

LIKE BETTER THAN GETTING

ON STAGE AND ENTERTAINING

PEOPLE.

Gordon: I'VE THE GOT

TO ASK THIS.

YOU WERE ON STAGE IN

JERUSALEM --

UH-HUH.

Gordon: -- AND ONE OF

THE THE THINGS I LEARNED

IN THE BOOK IS YOU LEARNED

HOW TO PLAY THE NATIONAL

ANTHEM OF ISRAEL, ATIFA.

AND IT WAS THE SONG OF

ZIONISM IN THE 1890s,

AND THE SONG THAT

SUSTAINED THEM IN THE

CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN

GERMANY, AND HERE YOU ARE,

A COUNTRY MUSIC --

I WENT THERE WITH MY

CHURCH.

THE CHRISTIAN EMBASSY OF

JERUSALEM WERE HAVING --

THEY HAD PROGRAMS EVERY

NIGHT.

THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT WAS

A NIGHT THAT THE JEWISH

PEOPLE CAME.

ALL OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE

CAME IN JERUSALEM.

AND MY PASTOR SAID, WOULD

YOU DO A SONG WITH THE

MAN?

AND I SAID, YEAH.

WE SET SOME MUSIC DOWN.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT,

SOMEBODY ELSE DID.

AND WE REHEARSED A SONG

WITH THE BAND.

AND I SAID, TONIGHT WHEN

WE COME ON, I WANT TO DO

SOMETHING ON MY FIDDLE, BY

MYSELF.

I'M JUST GOING TO STEP UP

AND DO IT.

WHEN I GET THREW WITH IT,

WE'LL STEP BACK AND WE'LL

DO THE SONG.

WE WALKED OUT, AND

EVERYTHING QUIETED DOWN I

STARTED PLAYING ATIFA.

AND ALL OF THESE JEWISH

PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE.

HERE IS THIS HILLBILLY

FROM TEXAS, STANDING ON

STAGE PLAYING THE NATIONAL

ANTHEM.

IT WAS A REALLY NICE

MOMENT.

IT WAS WELL WORTH THE

EFFORT IT TOOK FOR ME TO

LEARN TO PLAY IT.

IT TOUCHED SOME PEOPLE.

Gordon: I THINK IT

TOUCHED YOU, TOO.

THEY HAVE A REALLY,

REALLY STRONG FEELING

ABOUT THAT SONG.

I LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

Gordon: THAT ONE AND

"JERUSALEM OF GOLD," YOU

PLAY THOSE AND THEY START

CRYING.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT YOU

MENTORING PEOPLE, BUT I

THINK THAT IS ANOTHER

UNTOLD STORY OF CHARLIE

DANIELS.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET THE

BOOK, "NEVER LOOK AT THE

EMPTY SEATS," AND YOU CAN

FIND IT BEGINNING

OCTOBER 24th, WHEREVER

BOOKS ARE SOLD.

IT IS AN HONOR, CHAIRMEN.

THANK YOU, BROTHER.

Gordon: COMING UP,

SHE WAS 13 AND DOING SOME

RESEARCH FOR SCHOOL, WHEN

SHE SAW SOMETHING THAT

STARTED A LIFE-CHANGING

DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

IT DREW ME FURTHER AND

FURTHER INTO THE WORLD OF

Gordon: JESSICA

HARRIS WAS ONLY 13 YEARS

OLD, WHEN SHE BEGAN

WATCHING PORNOGRAPHY

ONLINE.

BY THE TIME SHE WAS A HIGH

SCHOOL SENIOR, JESSICA WAS

SPENDING SIX HOURS A DAY,

THAT'S EVERY DAY, ADDICTED

TO PORN.

SHE KNEW SHE NEEDED HELP,

BUT SHAME KEPT HER FROM

ASKING FOR IT.

UNTIL THE DAY SHE FINALLY

FOUND A WAY OF ESCAPE.

I DIDN'T MATTER.

IT DIDN'T MATTER THAT I

WAS HURTING, IT DIDN'T

MATTER THAT I WAS

STRUGGLING.

WHAT MATTERED WAS

PRODUCT -- WHAT MATTERED

WAS THE PERFORMANCE.

Reporter: JESSICA

HARRIS SPENT HER CHILDHOOD

TRYING TO LIVE UP TO

OTHERS' EXPECTATIONS,

ESPECIALLY HER PARENTS'.

IF I FAILED, IF I

DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH THE

GOAL, THERE WAS NO

STANDARD.

NEXT TIME YOU NEED TO TRY

HARDER.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

Reporter: AT CHURCH,

SHE GOT THE SAME

EXPECTATION ABOUT GOD.

I ALWAYS FELT LIKE GOD

HAD THESE EXPECTATIONS FOR

ME, AND GOD WAS JUST A

LIST OF RULES.

THAT IS HOW YOU EARNED HIS

LOVE, AND THAT IS HOW YOU

EARNED HIS FAVOR.

YOU MESS UP, AND YOU LOSE

IT.

HOW CAN I MAKE YOU PROUD

OF ME?

HOW DID I MAKE MY FAMILY

HAPPY?

HOW DO I MAKE MY DAD

HAPPY?

Reporter: WHEN

JESSICA WAS SEVEN, HER

FATHER WALKED OUT WITH NO

WARNING.

I REALLY FELT LIKE IT

WAS SOMETHING I HAD DONE.

I HAD MADE HIM UPSET, I

HAD DISAPPOINTED HIM, AND

HE DOESN'T LOVE ME.

MY FAMILY WAS JUST KIND

OF, LET'S MOVE ON, LIKE

THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

I WAS FRUSTRATED,

WONDERING WHY I'M NOT GOOD

ENOUGH.

I WAS VERY BITTER AND

ANGRY, ANGRY.

I KIND OF BOTTLED IT ALL

IN AND FELT EMPTY, LIKE I

DIDN'T MATTER.

IT LED TO AN EMPTY,

JOYLESS LIFE FOR ME.

Reporter: AT 13,

WHILE SHE WAS ONLINE DOING

RESEARCH FOR SCHOOL, AN

ILLICIT VIDEO POPPED UP.

WHEN SHE TRIED TO CLOSE

IT, IT TOOK HER TO A PORN

WEBSITE.

SHE COULDN'T LOOK AWAY.

I THINK I WATCHED THE

VIDEO BECAUSE IT IS A BIT

LIKE WATCHING A TRAIN

WRECK.

AS MUCH AS YOU MIGHT NOT

WANT TO WATCH IT, AT THE

SAME TIME, WHAT HAPPENS

NEXT?

WHAT IS THIS?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

SO THERE IS AN INTRIGUE

PART OF IT.

Reporter: AND THEN

SOMETHING ELSE PEAKED HER

CURIOSITY.

IT WAS A CHATROOM, AND SHE

SIGNED IN.

I WENT IN THERE TO SEE

WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT, AND

THEN IT TURNED OUT WITH

MEN ASKING ME TO PERFORM

DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THEM

BY A CHAT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT,

SO I WOULD HAVE TO

RESEARCH IT, AND IT DREW

ME FURTHER AND FURTHER

INTO THE WORLD OF

PORNOGRAPHY.

Reporter: AS FIRST IT

WAS THE ATTENTION AND

ADORATION OF THOSE

STEANCHESTRANGERS THAT DREW

JESSICA BACK AGAIN AND

AGAIN.

HERE SHE WAS ALWAYS

WANTED.

THERE IS AN ESCAPE.

AND I CAN GO ON THERE AND

PRETEND NONE OF MY LIFE IS

ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

I CAN GO ON AND PRETEND

THAT MY LIFE IS PERFECT,

THAT I'M PERFECT, AND THAT

I HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER,

AND GET ACCEPTANCE AND

VALIDATION.

Reporter: AND THEN IT

BECAME MORE.

EVENTUALLY I WAS JUST

SO, LIKE, PHYSICALLY DRAWN

TO PORNOGRAPHY.

FORGET THE CHATROOMS, I'LL

JUST WATCH PORNOGRAPHY

MYSELF.

IT WAS KIND OF A RELIEF

FOR ME.

Reporter: BY HER

SENIOR YEAR, SHE WAS

SPENDING UP TO SIX HOURS A

DAY ONLINE, ALL THE WHILE

STILL GOING TO CHURCH AND

BEING THE MODEL STUDENT.

NOW IT HAS TAKEN OVER

MY LIFE.

NOW IT IS THREATENING TO

RUIN MY GRADES.

IT IS THREATENING TO RUIN

MY DREAMS.

I'M MORE ASHAMED OF THE

FACT THAT I LET IT GET

THIS FAR.

Reporter: DEEP DOWN

SHE KNEW SHE NEEDED HELP,

BUT TO HER IT WASN'T AN

OPTION.

I'M SO BUSY IN SCHOOL

AND CHURCH AND HOME,

MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE

KNOWS THAT I'M PERFECT,

AND MAKING SURE THAT I

MEET ALL OF THE RULES, WHO

AM I GOING TO TELL?

BECAUSE WHOEVER I TELL,

ALL OF THAT PERFECTION IS

GOING TO COME CRASHING

DOWN, AND THEY'RE GOING TO

KNOW.

I'M GOING TO BE THE FREAK

WHO WATCHES PORN.

SO I HAD TO DO THIS

MYSELF.

Reporter: SHE TRIED

TO LIMIT HER TIME ONLINE,

BUT COULDN'T.

IT ONLY MADE HER FEEL LIKE

MORE OF A FAILURE.

I WOULD BEGIN TO JUST

BEAT MYSELF UP.

I WOULD TAKE MY HEAD AND

BANG IT AGAINST THE SIDE

OF THE BAT BATHTUB, BECAUSE I

THOUGHT, IF I CAN MAKE

THIS HURT, I'LL STOP.

Reporter: BUT NOTHING

WORKED.

SHE BECAME VALEDICTORIAN,

BUT AT HER GRADUATION, SHE

REALIZED HOW MEANINGLESS

HER LIFE HAD BECOME.

I HAD THIS REVELATION

THAT MY WHOLE LIFE IS

PORNOGRAPHY.

AND I THOUGHT, NO, NO, NO.

THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING

ELSE.

Reporter: AFTER

JESSICA ATTENDED COLLEGE,

SHE ATTENDED A FUNERAL FOR

A GIRL SHE KNEW FROM

SCHOOL.

SHE WAS MOVED BY THE

EULOGY, WHICH TALKED ABOUT

HER FRIEND'S LOVE OF

CHRIST.

I THOUGHT, THAT'S WHAT

I WANT.

I HAD GIVEN UP EVERYTHING

TO TRY TO IMPRESS PEOPLE,

AND I THOUGHT, IF I DIED,

NO ONE WOULD CARE.

AND I THOUGHT, I WANT MY

LIFE TO MATTER.

I WANT IT TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE.

IF ALL IT TAKES IS LOVING

JESUS, I CAN DO THAT.

Reporter: AFTERWARDS

JESSICA KNELT AT THE ALTER

AND PRAYED.

IF YOU CAN MAKE

SOMETHING OUT OF THIS

MESS, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING

WITH THIS, IT IS YOURS.

Reporter: STILL, SHE

STRUGGLED WITH PORN.

THEN AT A COLLEGE WOMEN'S

BIBLE STUDY, JESSICA AND

THE OTHERS WERE ENCOURAGED

TO WRITE DOWN ANY SIN THEY

NEEDED HELP OVERCOMING.

IT WAS LIKE GOD SAID,

LISTEN, YOU'VE BEEN

WAITING FOR A SAFE PLACE

TO CONFESS.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

WRITE IN YOUR NAME AND

THAT YOU STRUGGLE WITH

PORNOGRAPHY.

SO I WROTE IT OUT, AND I

REMEMBER THINKING IT WAS

THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN MY

LIFE.

I WALKED AWAY FEELING SO

DEFEATED BECAUSE I HAD

JUST TORN DOWN THAT WALL

OF PERFECTION.

Reporter: BUT IT

DIDN'T END THE WAY JESSICA

FEARED.

A WOMAN FROM THE BIBLE

STUDY REACHED OUT AND

SUPPORTED HER.

THROUGH PRAYER AND SEVERAL

MONTHS OF COUNSELLING,

JESSICA OVER CAME HER

ADDICTION.

TODAY SHE IS AN AUTHOR AND

SPEAKER, HELPING OTHER

WOMEN FIND THEIR TRUE

WORTH IN CHRIST.

AND WITH GOD, IT WAS

JUST LIKE THERE WAS HOPE

THAT MY LIFE HAS VALUE AND

WORTH IN AND OF ITSELF,

NOT BASED ON WHAT I COULD

DO, OR BASED ON MY BRAIN,

OR BASED ON MY BODY, BUT

JUST BECAUSE HE HAD GIVEN

IT.

Gordon: JUST BECAUSE

OF YOU.

JESUS CAME JUST BECAUSE OF

YOU.

YOU'RE MADE IN HIS IMAGE.

YOU ARE HIS CHILD.

AND WHAT PARENT WOULDN'T

DO ANYTHING TO SAVE THEIR

CHILD?

OUR HEAVENLY FATHER WOULD

DO ANYTHING -- ANYTHING --

TO SAVE YOU BECAUSE HE

LOVES YOU THAT MUCH.

NOW, HE IS NOT HOLDING YOU

UP TO SOME STANDARD.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PERFORM

TO GET HIS LOVE.

AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY

THIS WORKS.

IT IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.

AND IN THAT LOVE, HE WANTS

THE BEST FOR YOU.

THE WONDERFUL NEWS IS HE

LOVES YOU SO MUCH, HE

DOESN'T WANT YOU LEFT

TRAPPED IN ANYTHING,

ANYWHERE.

HE WANTS YOU TO BE FREE TO

HAVE LIFE, AND HAVE IT

MORE ABUNDANTLY.

HE DOESN'T WANT YOU A

SLAVE TO PORNOGRAPHY.

HE DOESN'T WANT YOU A

SLAVE TO YOUR DESIRES.

HE DOESN'T WANT YOU A

SLAVE TO ALCOHOL, DRUGS,

ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE LIFE,

AND HE WANTS IT TO BE

FULFILLING AND SATISFIES

THE DESIRE OF YOUR HEART,

TO GIVE YOU A HOPE AND A

FUTURE.

PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL

US, 1-800-700-7000, AND

JUST SAY, I NEED TO FIND

JESUS.

I NEED TO BE SET FREE FROM

THINGS.

CONFESSION IS GOOD FOR THE

SOUL.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO JUDGE

YOU.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

SO CALL US.

> HERE IS A WORD: "LET

US THEREFORE COME BOLDING

TO THE THRONE OF GRACE,

THAT WE MAY OBTAIN MERCY

AND FIND GRACE."

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