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700 Club Interactive - November 1, 2017

Part two of a compelling 3-part series highlighting Martin Luther and his impact on modern thought, religion and politics in the 500 years since the Reformation. Read Transcript


Gordon: THE SPARK

THAT LAUNCHED A

REVOLUTION.

HE BECAME A

EUROPEAN-WIDE HERO.

HE SAID, THIS IS LIKE

MY PALM SUNDAY.

I THINK I'M GOING TO GO TO

MY EXECUTION IN A WEEK.

Gordon: SEE HOW

MARTIN LUTHER STOOD UP TO

THE CHURCH AND CREATED THE

MODERN WORLD.

HERE I STAND; I CAN DO

NOTHING ELSE.

Gordon: SEPARATE THE

MYTH FROM THE MAN ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

CHRISTIANS ALL AROUND THE

WORLD ARE CELEBRATING THE

ANNIVERSARY OF THE

REFORMATION, AND THE MAN

WHO MADE IT ALL POSSIBLE,

MARTIN LUTHER.

Terry: 500 YEARS AGO,

MARTIN LUTHER NAILED HIS

95 THESIS TO THE DOOR OF

THE WITTENBERG CATHEDRAL.

WE EXAMINE WHAT THE

REFORMATION WAS REALLY ALL

ABOUT, BEGINNING WITH HIS

THESIS.

Reporter: ON

OCTOBER 31st, 1517,

MARTIN LUTHER, THE

CATHOLIC MONK AND

UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR

NAILED 95 THESIS TO THE

DOOR OF THE WITTENBERG

CHURCH IN GERMANY.

THIS SINGLE ACT IS ONE OF

THE MOST PROFOUND, YET

MISUNDERSTOOD, MOMENTS IN

CHRISTIAN HISTORY THAT

STARTED THE REFORMATION.

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS

THE PRINCE'S CHURCH, THE

OFFICIAL CHURCH, A BIG,

BEAUTIFUL CHURCH.

THE DOOR TO THAT CHURCH

SERVED KIND OF LIKE THE

BULLETIN BOARD FOR THE

WHOLE TOWN, WHERE

ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE PUT UP.

SO THIS WAS AN

ANNOUNCEMENT TACKED ON THE

BILL TIBULLETIN BOARD, CALLING

PEOPLE TO DEBATE.

WHAT LUTHER WAS ASKING FOR

WAS AN ACADEMIC DEBATE

ABOUT INDULGENCES AND

FORGIVENESS AND THE GRACE

OF GOD.

THIS WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE

WHAT WE THINK OF IT AS,

THIS HOLY MOMENT IN

HISTORY WHERE HE DEFIES

THE CHURCH AND POUNDS THE

THESIS ON TO THE CASTLE

CHURCH DOOR.

NOT AT ALL.

HE WAS SIMPLY SAYING, IT'S

TIME TO HAVE A DEBATE ON

THIS SUBJECT.

IF WE HAVE A DEBATE, IT

WILL GIVE AN AIRING OUT OF

VIEWS AND IT WILL LEAD US

TO BEGIN TO DISCUSS WHAT

REALLY BADLY NEEDS

DISCUSSING.

THESE WERE ALL THINGS,

PROBLEMS THAT COULD BE

SOLVED.

THEY WERE CONCERNS HE

SHARED WITH MANY OTHER

PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH, BOTH

CLERGY AND OTHERS.

IT WAS NOT A REVOLUTIONARY

DOCUMENT.

WHAT REALLY CAUSED THE

TROUBLE WAS WHEN LUTHER

SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I BETTER SEND A COPY OF

THESE DEBATE POINTS, ALONG

WITH A LETTER, TO THE

ARCHBISHOP, WHO HAS

SANCTIONS THESE

INDULGENCES.

Reporter: HIS

WRITINGS QUICKLY FOUND AN

AUDIENCE.

HIS 95 THESIS AND OTHER

SERMONS WERE MASS PRINTED

ON THE NEWLY PRINTED GUT

GUTENBEGBEG PRESS. GUTEN

BERGUTENBERG PRESS.

EVERYBODY WAS TALKING

ABOUT LUTHER, ALL THE WAY

FROM LISBON IN PORTUGAL,

TO LITHUANIA, NEARLY IN

RUSSIA.

HE BECAME A EUROPEAN-WIDE

PHENOMENON.

LUTHER WAS A VERY

AFFECTIVE AND PROLIFIC

WRITER.

HE COULD WRITE VERY WELL

IN GERMAN AND LATIN.

AND HE PUBLISHED A LOT OF

TRACKS AND SERMONS

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING HIS

95 THESIS.

HE BECAME A VOICE OF

THE PEOPLE, A VOICE FOR

THE COMMON MAN.

IF YOU LOOK IN HISTORY --

AND THIS IS HUGE -- THERE

HAD NEVER BEEN A VOICE FOR

THE COMMON MAN.

THERE WAS NO COMMON MAN.

THERE WAS NO VOICE OF THE

PEOPLE.

WHO WERE THE PEOPLE?

THERE WAS THE POWER, THERE

WAS THE POWER STRUCTURE,

AND THEN THERE WERE

PEASANTS.

THE IDEA THAT THE PEOPLE

COULD HAVE A VOICE, IT WAS

REALLY UNTHINKABLE.

Reporter: LUTHER'S 95

THESIS SPOKE AGAINST THE

SALE OF INDULGENCES, BUT

MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE WAS

CALLING THE CHURCH TO TURN

BACK TO JESUS AS A SOURCE

OF DOCTRINE AND TRUTH.

IT SAYS THAT THE TRUE

TREASURY OF THE CHURCH IS

THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD

JESUS CHRIST.

IT IS NOT THE MERITS OF

THE SAINTS.

IT IS NOT ANY GOOD WORKS

THAT I CAN BUILD UP AND

PUT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT IN

HEAVEN.

IT IS NOT INDULGENCES THAT

I MIGHT BUY.

THE TRUE TREASURY OF THE

CHURCH IS NOTHING OTHER

THAN THE GOSPEL, THE GOOD

NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.

LUTHER WAS DEEPLY

INTERESTED IN A RETURN TO

A VIBRANCY OF THE EARLY

CHURCH.

THE CHURCH THAT FOR 300

YEARS SHARED THE GOSPEL,

BECAME WITNESSES OF THE

POWER OF THE SPIRIT, AND

OVER CAME THE ROMAN

EMPIRE.

THIS IS WHAT LUTHER WAS

INTERESTED IN, IN A

REFORMATION BACKWARDS.

THERE WERE LOTS OF

ABUSES IN THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH, BUT I WILL HAVE TO

SAY, THE REFORMATION WAS

NOT ABOUT JUST CLEANING

OUT THOSE ABUSES.

THAT'S OFTEN HOW THE

REFORMATION STORY IS TOLD.

BUT, REMEMBER, THERE WERE

LOTS OF REFORMERS BEFORE

LUTHER WAS EVER BORN, WHO

WANTED TO TAKE THE BROOM

AND SWEEP OUT THOSE

ABUSES.

LUTHER WAS ABOUT SOMETHING

ELSE.

LUTHER'S REFORMATION WAS

ABOUT SOMETHING DEEPER.

WHAT THE REFORMATION WAS

ABOUT FUNDAMENTALLY WAS

ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD.

BUT WHAT WORD AND WHAT

GOD?

MARTIN LUTHER FOR EVERY

SINGLE QUESTION WOULD GO

BACK TO THE SCRIPTURES

THEMSELVES.

AND HE ASKED THESE

QUESTIONS, AND HE SAID,

WELL, THE DOCTRINES OF THE

CHURCH HAVE SAID THIS, AND

THE COUNCILS HAVE SAID THE

FOLLOWING, AND THE POPE

HAS SAID THE FOLLOWING,

BUT WHAT DOES THE

SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES SAY?

HERE WE FIND MARTIN

LUTHER'S GREAT

CONTRIBUTION TO THE EARLY

REFORMATION.

THIS IDEA OF SCRIPTURE

ALONE.

WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE

INSPIRED WORD OF GOD TO

JUDGE EVERYTHING WITHIN

THE CHURCH.

EVERY QUESTION THAT WE

HAVE, WHETHER THIS IS

APPROPRIATE OR WHETHER

THIS IS TRUE, LUTHER WOULD

SAY, LET US GO BACK TO THE

SCRIPTURES THEMSELVES.

HE WAS EARNESTLY TRYING

TO HELP THE CHURCH, TO

HELP THE CHURCH BE THE

CHURCH OF GOD.

HE WAS NEVER AGAINST THE

CHURCH.

AND AS THINGS PROGRESSED,

PEOPLE STARTED ARGUING

WITH LUTHER.

IN THE COURSE OF THE

ARGUING, HE BECAME MORE

AND MORE SURE OF HIS

POSITION.

AND HE SAID BOLDER AND

BOLDER THINGS.

HE TOOK THEOLOGY STEPS

THAT HE NEVER INTENDED TO

TAKE, BY SAYING THAT, OH,

BY THE WAY, THE CHURCH

COUNCILS HAVE ERRED IN THE

PAST.

THE PAPAL DECREES HAVE

BEEN IN ERROR.

THINGS THAT CLEARLY THEY

WOULD HAVE SEEN AS

RADICAL.

THEY DOUBLED DOWN AND

INCREASINGLY TOLD HIM, IF

YOU DO NOT RECANT, IF YOU

DO NOT TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE

SAID, YOU'RE DOING DAMAGE,

AND YOU WILL BE

EX-COMMUNICATED.

YOU WILL BE LABELLED A

HERATIC, AND WILL BE

LABELLED AN OUTLAW BY THE

HOLY ROMAN EMPEROR.

THE CHURCH WOULD ENGAGE

IN THE CIVIL GOVERNMENT OF

THIS TIME AND CALL NOT

ONLY FOR AN INVESTIGATION,

BUT A CONDEMNATION OF

LUTHER AND THE POINTS THAT

HE MADE.

THE INITIAL REFORM OF

LUTHER WAS NOT TO BREAK

AWAY FROM THE CHURCH, BUT

WAS TO CHANGE IT AND GET

RID OF THESE ABUSES.

> AND IT WAS IN 1520

THAT HE ACTUALLY DECIDED

THAT THE CHURCH COULD NO

LONGER BE REFORMED, THAT

HE HAD TO MAKE A CLEAN

BREAK FROM IT.

THE POPE EX-COMMUNICATED

HIM AND GAVE HIM A CERTAIN

AMOUNT OF TIME TO RECANT.

HE WAITED UNTIL THE VERY

LAST DAY AND THEN TOOK THE

POPE'S BOOK, ALONG WITH

THE BOOKS OF THE CANON LAW

AND BURNED IT ALL.

Reporter: IN 1521,

CHARLES THE FIFTH, PRINCES

AND LEADERS OF THE CHURCH

GATHERED FOR THE IMPERIAL

DIET THE AT THE CHURCH.

LUTHER WAS GIVEN ONE LAST

OPPORTUNITY TO RECANT.

TO THE AUTHORITIES, HE WAS

A HERATIC.

TO THE COMMON MAN, HE WAS

A CELEBRITY.

LUTHER WAS TREATED LIKE

A HERO.

HE SAID, THIS IS LIKE MY

PALM SUNDAY.

I THINK I'M GOING TO GO TO

MY EXECUTION IN A WEEK.

THE ADULATION, PEOPLE

WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKING

PHOTOS OF HIM IF THEY HAD

AN iPHONE.

IT CREATED A SENSATION.

SO HE WAS REALLY, IN SOME

WAYS, THE FIRST CELEBRITY

IN THE HISTORY OF THE

WORLD.

SO THIS WENT WAY PAST WHAT

ANY OF THE AUTHORITIES

THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE.

THEY HAD NEVER SEEN A

PHENOMENON LIKE MARTIN

LUTHER.

Reporter: THE EMPIRE

CONFRONTED LUTHER WITH HIS

OWN WRITINGS, WRITINGS

CRITICAL OF THE POPE AND

THE CHURCH COUNCILS.

MARTIN LUTHER, THESE

PAPERS ON THE TABLE IN

FRONT OF YOU, THEY ARE

FAMILIAR TO YOU?

IN FACT, ARE YOU NOT THE

AUTHOR OF EVERY SINGLE

WORK ON THIS TABLE?

I AM.

ARE YOU GOING TO RECANT

OR NOT?

I CAN'T RECANT.

I AM UNABLE.

TRUTH AND MY LOVE OF GOD

PREVENT ME FROM SIMPLY

RECANTING.

UNLESS YOU SHOW ME

PRECISELY WHERE I HAVE

ERRED, I HAVE TO ABIDE BY

WHAT I HAVE SAID.

I AM OPEN TO

RECONSTANT, HE WOULD SAY,

IF YOU COULD SHOW THIS TO

ME WITHIN THE SCRIPTURES.

AND THEN HE MAKES THIS

EXTRAORDINARY STATEMENT.

HE SAYS: "HERE I STAND; I

CAN DO NOTHING ELSE."

AND HE IS SAYING, I CAN

ONLY STAND ON THE TRUTH

AND THE VORACITY AND THE

POWER OF GOD'S WORD.

AND THAT'S THIS MOMENT

WHERE WE REMEMBER HIM

STANDING AGAINST THE POPE,

STANDING AGAINST THE HOLY

ROMAN EMPEROR.

AND IT IS A DRAMATIC

MOMENT BECAUSE HE IS

SURROUNDED BY ALL OF THE

POWER OF THE EMPIRE.

WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO

JOHN HUTZ 100 YEARS

EARLIER, WHEN HE WAS

SECONEX-COMMUNICATED AND

CONDEMNED, AND HE WAS PUT

TO DEATH.

HE HE FEARED GOD MORE THAN

HE FEARED WHAT MAN COULD

DO TO HIM.

HE SAID, I KNOW THAT GOD

HAS CALLED ME TO SPEAK

THESE THINGS.

I DON'T FEAR WHAT THE

CHURCH OR THE KING OR THE

EMPEROR CAN DO TO ME.

I FEAR NOT SPEAKING WHAT

GOD HAS ENTRUSTED ME WITH

SPEAKING.

THIS IS A HOLY CALLING.

THAT LEVEL OF FAITH IS SO

INSPIRING.

WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY WHO

KNOWS GOD IS REAL, AND WHO

KNOWS GOD'S TRUTH IS REAL

AND BEAUTIFUL AND GREAT

AND GLORIOUS, AND THAT

NOTHING WOULD BE WORSE

THAN BEING QUIET WHEN I

SHOULD SPEAK OUT.

HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE

QUIET.

HERE I STAND; I CAN DO

NO OTHER, SO HELP ME GOD.

Reporter: AFTER

MAKING HIS STAND ON THE

WORD OF GOD, LUTHER LEFT

THE DIET OF OUTLAW IN THE

EYES OF THE CHURCH AND THE

ROMAN EMPIRE.

HIS FATE NOW ARRESTED IN

THE HANDS OF GOD.

Gordon: HERE I STAND;

I CAN DO NO OTHER.

THEY ARE THE WORDS THAT

RING THROUGH HISTORY 500

YEARS LATER.

IN HONOR OF THE 500th

ANNIVERSARY OF THE

REFORMATION, CBN HAS

RELEASED A BRAND NEW

DOCUMENTARY, THE D.V.D.

SHARES MARTIN LUTHER'S OWN

SPIRITUAL AWAKENING, HOW

HE SHAPED OUR MODERN WORLD

WITH A RENEWED

UNDERSTANDING OF GOD AND

THE BIBLE.

AND YOU CAN GET YOUR VERY

OWN D.V.D. COPY OF "MARMARTIN

LUTHER: THE REFORMATION,"

AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

CALL US: 1-800-700-7000,

OR GO TO cbn.com TO

ORDER YOUR D.V.D. TODAY.

TOMORROW WE'LL BRING YOU

PART THREE OF THE SERIES.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS

ITMENT.

TerryIT. Terry: UP NEXT, HEAR

FROM A WOMAN WHO HAD SUCH

BAD PAIN IN HER KNEE IT

KEPT HER UP AT NIGHT.

IT WAS GETTING WORSE

AND WORSE WITH EACH DAY

AND EACH WEEK.

ONGOING FOR ABOUT TWO

YEARS.

Terry: HEAR WHY SHE

IS NOW PAIN-FREE.

PLUS, WE'RE GOING TO BE

PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR

NEEDS, SO DON'T GO AWAY.

Terry: LISA KNEW SHE

COULDN'T BE OUT OF

COMMISSION.

AFTER ALL, SHE WAS A

LOVING WIFE TO A HUSBAND

WHO HAD A HARD TIME TAKING

CARE OF HIMSELF.

SO WHEN LISA'S KNEE

STARTED ACTING UP, SURGERY

WASN'T AN OPTION.

SHE NEEDED A MIRACLE.

WHEN MY KNEE FIRST

STARTED HURTING, IT WASN'T

ALL THAT BAD AT FIRST.

IT WAS JUST PAINFUL.

IT WAS GETTING WORSE AND

WORSE WITH EACH DAY AND

EACH WEEK.

ONGOING FOR ABOUT TWO

YEARS.

WHEN I WOULD GO UP AND

DOWN THE STAIRS, I WOULD

HAVE TO GO GOOD LEG FIRST

DOWN AND GOOD LEG FIRST

GOING UP.

IT WOULD MAKE ME UP IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS

NEVER A GOOD NIGHT OF

SLEEP.

THE PAIN GOT SO SEVERE

THAT WE HAD TO GET A BRACE

THAT HAD WHAT I CALL

STILT.

AND IT JUST GAVE ME MUCH

MORE SUPPORT, KEPT MY LEG

STRAIGHTER, SO I WON'T

HAVE TO BEND IT ANY.

THE PAIN WAS STILL THERE.

I KNEW THE MINUTE THAT I

WENT INTO SEE AN

ORTHOPEDIC, HE WAS GOING

TO SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY;

THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS

GOING TO HELP THAT EXCEPT

GOING IN AND GETTING IT

OPERATED ON.

I JUST KEPT SAYING, I

CAN'T DO THAT YET.

MY HUSBAND NEEDS ME MORE.

MY HUSBAND WAS A STATE

TROOPER.

AND HE HAD HAD AN

ACCIDENT.

AFTERWARDS, HE HAD HAD

EIGHT SURGERIES.

I JUST COULDN'T BE DOWN

WITH MY OWN SELF AND NOT

BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF

HIM.

I WOULD PRAY AND I WOULD

JUST SAY, GOD, PLEASE, YOU

KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE

HEARING ME.

ONE OF MY VERY FAVORITE

VERSES IS IN 2 KINGS, AND

IT SAYS, "I HAVE HEARD

YOUR PRAYERS AND I HAVE

SEEN YOUR TEARS, AND I

WILL HEAL YOU."

AND I'M THINKING, GOD'S

GOING TO HEAL ME.

GOD'S GOING TO HEAL ME.

IT MAY TAKE A WHILE, BUT

GOD'S GOING TO DO IT.

SO JULY 27th I WAS DOING

SOME WORK AND WATCHING

"THE 700 CLUB."

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I

HEAR...

Gordon: THERE IS

SOMEONE YOU'RE WATCHING,

AND YOU HEARD THE REPORT

ABOUT THE LEFT KNEE, AND

YOU'RE GOING, MY LEFT KNEE

IS HURTING, CAN I BE

HEALED?

THE ANSWER FOR YOU IS,

YES, YOU CAN.

RIGHT NOW JUST LAY YOUR

HAND ON THAT KNEE AND

RECEIVE MIRACLE HEALING

INTO IT IN JESUS' NAME.

AND I JUST STARTED

PRAYING.

AND I STARTED PRAISING

GOD.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY

HEALING.

YOU KNOW, I GRABBED MY

KNEE, AND I WAS JUST -- I

SAID, THAT'S MINE.

THAT'S FOR ME.

IT TOOK ABOUT TWO DAYS AND

MY KNEE WAS HEALED IN THAT

TWO DAYS.

I COULD COME DOWN THE

STEPS WITH NO PAIN.

I COULD WALK.

I COULD GO TO THE MAILBOX.

I COULD TAKE THE DOGS OUT.

I COULD STAND IN THE

KITCHEN.

I KNEW -- I HAD NO DOUBT

THAT THE LORD HAD HIS HAND

ON ME.

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY

MIND AT ALL.

DON'T EVER DOUBT GOD'S

WORD.

DON'T EVER THINK THAT GOD

WILL LIE BECAUSE GOD DOES

NOT LIE.

GOD MAKES PROMISES TO US,

AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

THAT IT MAY NOT BE IN OUR

TIME, BUT IT IS IN HIS

TIME.

Terry: BOY, SO FAR

THE THREAD FOR TODAY'S

SHOW IS STAND ON THE WORD;

GOD'S WORD IS TRUE.

AND WE CAN STAND ON IT.

WHO HE SAID HE IS IS, EH?

WHO HE WHO

HE IS.

I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OF

YOU WHO ARE BROKEN

SPIRITUALLY, AND

PHYSICALLY.

SO WE WANT TO TAKE THE

TIME TO PRAY FOR YOU.

Gordon: LORD, WE LIFT

THOSE WHO HAVE NEEDS

TODAY, AND WE DECLARE OVER

THEM YOUR WORD, THAT YOU

HAVE HEARD THEIR PRAYERS,

YOU HAVE SEEN THEIR TEARS,

AND YOU WILL STRETCH FORTH

YOUR HAND TO HEAL THEM.

SO, LORD GOD, DO MIRACLES

TODAY.

RELEASE YOUR PEOPLE FROM

THEIR INFIRMITY, FOR YOU

DIED FOR THIS.

AND BY YOUR STRIPES WE ARE

HEALED.

SO, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, DO

MIRACLES TODAY FOR WE ASK

IT IN JESUS' NAME.

THERE IS SOMEONE WITH A

CONSTRICTION OF THE

LIGAMENTS, AND IT'S

PRIMARILY IN YOUR LEFT

HAND, BUT IT AFFECTS BOTH.

THERE ARE NOTC NOTCHELS ON IT, AND

JESUS HAS JUST HEALED YOU.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS, BE

HEALED AND BE SET FREE.

SOMEONE ELSE, YOU HAVE

RECURRING INFECTIONS IN

YOUR EYE.

IT IS REALLY STARTING TO

AFFECT YOUR VISION NOW.

YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF

ANTIBIOTICS FOR IT, YOU'VE

TAKEN A LOT OF TREATMENTS

FOR IT.

GOD IS JUST GOING TO HEAL

IT ALL NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

BE RELEASED FROM THE

INFECTION.

BE RELEASED FROM ALL THE

AFFECTS OF IT NOW IN THE

NAME OF JESUS.

Terry: THERE IS

SOMEONE ELSE, YOU HAVE

SOME KIND OF A SKIN

CONDITION THAT IS ON YOUR

SCALP PRIMARILY, BUT IT IS

SO -- IT'S AWFUL.

IT OOZES AND IT ITCHES AND

IT BURNS ALL AT THE SAME

TIME.

GOD IS HEALING THAT FOR

YOU RIGHT NOW.

JUST LIFT UP YOUR HAND AND

SAY, THAT'S FOR ME AND I

TAKE IT, AS GOD TOTALLY

GIVES YOU A FRESH, PINK

SKIN ON YOUR SCALP.

Gordon: THERE IS

SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS A

PINCHED NERVE IN YOUR NECK

THAT IS CAUSING PAIN DOWN

INTO YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER,

AND GOD IS JUST HEALING

YOU AND RESTORING YOU.

ALL OF THAT NUMBNESS AND

PAIN AND DISCOMFORT, IN

JESUS' NAME.

BE HEALED AND BE MADE

WHOLE.

Terry: THERE IS

SOMEONE ELSE, YOU ARE

HAVING TROUBLE WALKING AND

YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE

ARCHES OF YOUR FEET.

GOD IS HEALING YOU AND

TOUCHING YOU TODAY.

YOU'RE BEING SET FREE IN

JESUS' NAME.

Gordon: LORD, WE

THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT

YOU'VE DONE AND ALL THAT

YOU ARE.

WE BLESS YOU AND WE THANK

YOU IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

IF YOU'VE BEEN TOUCHED BY

GOD, WE WANT TO SHARE IN

THAT GOOD REPORT.

WE WANT TO LET THE WORLD

KNOW THAT JESUS IS THE

SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND

FOREVER.

SO GIVE US A CALL:

1-800-700-7000.

AND JUST GIVE US YOUR

REPORT.

IF YOU NEED PRAYER, WE'RE

HERE FOR YOU 24 HOURS A

DAY.

IF YOU NEED PRAYER, ALL

YOU HAVE TO DO IS REACH

OUT AND CALL US.

IT IS OUR HONOR AND OUR

PRIVILEGE TO PRAY FOR YOU.

SO CALL: 1-800-700-7000.

> WELL, STILL AHEAD, SHE

HAS SPOKEN TO GOVERNMENTS

IN ENGLAND, NORWAY,

FRANCE, SPAIN -- AND

THAT'S JUST TO NAME A FEW.

SHANEEN CLARKE TALKS ABOUT

HER OUTREACH AROUND THE

WORLD.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS

HER.

SHE IS HERE LIVE RIGHT

Gordon: SHANEEN

CLARKE TRAVELS THE GLOBE,

AND SHE BELIEVES THERE IS

HOPE FOR ALL NATIONS.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: SHANEEN

CLARKE IS FROM A HINDU,

PUNJABI BACKGROUND.

AT AGE 14, SHE WAS ENGAGED

THROUGH AN ARRANGED

MARRIAGE.

SHE BECAME A CHRISTIAN AND

GOT OUT OF THE ENGAGEMENT.

HOWEVER, A FEW YEARS

LATER, SHE MARRIED AND

ENDED UP IN AN ABUSIVE

RELATIONSHIP.

NOW SHANEEN HAS PUT THE

PAST BEHIND HER AND HELPS

PEOPLE REACH THEIR FULL

POTENTIAL.

SHE HOLDS EVENTS AT

LONDON'S TOP VENUES, WHERE

DIGNITARIES LIKE TONY

BLAIR, AND FORMER MEMBER

OF PARLIAMENT JOHN THAN JONATHAN

AIKEN HAS ATTENDED.

SHE BELIEVES THERE IS HOPE

FOR ALL NATIONS, INCLUDING

AMERICA.

Gordon: OUR DEAR

FRIEND SHANEEN IS WITH US

NOW.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

BACK.

IT IS GREAT TO BE ON

THE SHOW, GORDON.

Gordon: YOU GO TO ALL

OF THESE WORLD LEADERS AND

TALK TO THEM.

HOW DID YOU GET INTO THAT

POSITION?

OH, WELL, IT WAS

PROGRESSIVE, GORDON.

I STARTED OFF WITH THE

RITZ TEASE IN LONDON --

Gordon: FOR THOSE OF

US WHO DON'T THE RITZ

TEA -- YOU WOULD HAVE TEA

THE AT THE MOST ELEGANT

HOTEL.

YES.

AND WE HAVE HIGH TEA.

IT IS THIS BEAUTIFUL

GOLDEN JAM --

Gordon: THE PHRASE IS

YOU'RE "PUTTING ON THE

RITS."

RITZ."

YES.

AND FROM THERE THE

MINISTRY GREW AND

PROGRESSED, AND BEFORE I

KNEW IT, I WAS GOING TO

WORLD'S NATIONS'

LEADERS, AND I'M GOING TO

ITALY NEXT TO TALK ABOUT A

NEW EPIDEMIC THAT HAS

RISEN CALLED "FEMICIDE."

Gordon: AND THAT'S

WOMEN KILLING WOMEN?

YES.

THEY KNOW THAT SOCIAL

MEDIA HAS A LARGE

PERCENTAGE TO DO WITH HATE

CRIME.

WOMEN ARE KILLING WOMEN

BECAUSE OF ABUSE,

JEALOUSY.

THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY

WANT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND

PLATFORMS, AND THIS

ENGAGES INTO ARGUMENTS.

IT IS NOT THE ONLY THING.

IT IS JUST THE WAY THE

WORLD IS GOING.

THEY'RE COMPARING

JEALOUSY.

WE'RE ENTERING INTO A VERY

COMPLICATED DARK AGE OF

GENDER CRISIS.

WOMEN NOW ARE NOT QUITE

THEMSELVES.

WE LIVE AN EDITED LIFE ON

SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE DON'T TELL THE TRUTH.

IT IS A FAKE WORLD.

Gordon: THAT IS

NOTHING NEW.

WE'RE ALL JUST PUTTING ON

THE RITZ.

YES.

Gordon: BUT YOU SAY

IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF

THIS, THERE IS HOPE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR

ME SOMETIMES YOU STRUGGLE

WITH THAT -- AT LEAST I

STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

THAT WHEN YOU HEAR REPORTS

OF EITHER NATURAL

DISASTERS OR TERRORISM

ATTACKS OR WE SEEM TO BE

REDEFINING WHAT THE

BOUNDARIES OF BEING HUMAN

ARE -- WE HAVE DEFINITELY

REDEFINED FAMILY.

BUT NOW, I THINK, WE'RE

GETTING INTO WHAT DOES IT

REALLY MEAN TO BE HUMAN?

WHERE DO YOU FIND HOPE IN

ALL OF THAT?

THE ONLY HOPE WE HAVE,

REALLY, IS IN JESUS

CHRIST.

IT IS THE ONLY HOPE THAT

WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING TODAY

WITH ANXIETY ATTACKS,

PANIC ATTACKS.

THEY'RE CRIPPLED BY FEAR.

WHEREVER I GO, THERE IS

THIS FEAR FACTOR

EVERYWHERE.

PEOPLE ARE ON MEDICATION

BECAUSE OF THAT.

THEY'RE CONTROLLING AN

EXPRESSION THEY CAN'T

SHARE WITH EVERYONE.

THEY'RE HURTING INSIDE.

AND THE HOPE WE HAVE FOR

THEM IS TO BRING THE

GOSPEL INTO THESE PLACES.

INTO POLITICS, INTO OUR

EVERYDAY BUSINESS LIFE.

INTO EDUCATION, WHEREVER

WE GO.

IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE

CHURCH.

YOU KNOW, THE GOSPEL IS

NOT JUST FOR THE CHURCH.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WE KEEP IT SAFE AND

GROUNDED IN OUR CHURCH

CIRCLES, BUT THE GOSPEL IS

REALLY ABOUT GETTING OUT

THERE, GETTING OUT INTO

GOVERNMENT, GETTING OUT

INTO POLITICS, GETTING OUT

INTO EDUCATION, INTO THE

MEDIA, THE FASHION WORLD.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M

CALLED TO BE, IN THAT

WORLD OF INFLUENCE, THE

FASHION WORLD, WHERE NO

ONE DARE GOES.

THIS IS WHAT I'M SEEING,

BRINGING HOPE THERE.

BUT WE HAVE TO SPEAK A

LANGUAGE THAT THEY CAN

COMMUNICATE WITH.

IF YOU SAY TO SOMEBODY,

"JESUS LOVES YOU," THEY'RE

GOING TO THINK YOU'RE

CRAZY OR THEY'RE GOING TO

THINK, I'VE HEARD THAT ONE

BEFORE.

SO THERE IS A WAY OF

COMMUNICATING THAT YOU CAN

BUILD BRIDGES WITH PEOPLE

WITHOUT PUTTING THEM OFF.

Gordon: AND YOU ALSO

BRING THE POWER --

YES.

Gordon: AND I'VE SEEN

THAT.

LET'S PUT YOU BACK IN THE

RITZ TEA.

HERE YOU ARE HAVING THIS

ELEGANT TEA SERVICE WITH

ALL OF THE TRAPPINGS AND

TRIMMINGS, AND YOU WOULD

THEN INVITE THE HOLY

SPIRIT INTO THE MEETING.

UH-HUH.

Gordon: HOW WOULD

PEOPLE RESPOND?

BECAUSE YOU'RE LAYING

HANDS ON PEOPLE IN THESE

MEETINGS --

YES.

Gordon: AND THEY'RE

FALLING DOWN ON THE FLOOR.

YES.

Gordon: AND WHAT DO

THE OTHER PEOPLE DO?

I THINK IT IS

WONDERFUL.

I LOVE THE EXCITEMENT OF

THE POWER OF THE HOLY

SPIRIT.

I THINK WITHOUT THAT WE

CAN DO NOTHING.

OTHERWISE CHRISTIANITY

BECOMES BORING AND

MUNDANE.

IN THE RITZ, WE'VE HAD

PEOPLE BEING TOUCHED BY

THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND THEY

WERE ACTUALLY SLAIN.

AND THEY'RE CALLING THE

AMBULANCES.

SO WE HAVE THE AMBULANCES

OUTSIDE.

THE POWER OF GOD IS WHAT

IT IS ABOUT.

SO, YES, I'M SEEING PEOPLE

BEING HEALED AND

DELIVERED.

AND EXPERIENCING A

THRASHING ENCOUNTER WITH

THE POWER OF GOD.

BECAUSE IF THERE IS NO

ANOINTING, THERE IS

NOTHING TO GO WITH.

Gordon: IT IS JUST

DRY.

IT IS JUST DRY AND YOU

GET BORED AND YOU PLAY

CHURCH CULTURE.

SO, YES, WE'RE SEEING THE

ACTUAL POWER OF GOD

WHEREVER WE GO.

Gordon: WHEN THE

POWER DEMONSTRATES, DO

PEOPLE CHANGE?

DOES IT CHANGE THEIR VIEW?

YES.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE ARE

EXPERIENCING AN ENCOUNTER

THAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL,

ALMOST -- IT'S NOT

SOMETHING YOU CAN WHIP UP.

YOU CAN'T JUST LAY HANDS

ON SOMEBODY AND MAKE

THINGS HAPPEN.

IT IS NOT MY POWER.

Gordon: IT HAS GOT TO

BE GOD.

IT HAS GOT TO BE GOD.

SO WHEN GOD IS TOUCHING

PEOPLE IN POLITICS, IN

GOVERNMENT, IN THESE

HOTELS, WHEREVER I GO --

RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN TO

NORWAY AND FINLAND AND OFF

TO ITALY AND INDIA, AND

THE NATIONS -- I'VE SEEN

GOD'S POWER MANIFEST, NOT

ONLY BECAUSE I LAY HANDS,

BUT BECAUSE THERE IS AN

ATMOSPHERE THAT IS BUILT

UP FOR EXPECTATIONS AND

MIRACLES.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE BEING

HEALED.

THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I'M

ADMINISTERING TODAY, THEY

WANT TH THAT AUTHENTIC

ENCOUNTER WITH GOD.

Gordon: I THINK ALL

PEOPLE EVERYWHERE,

REGARDLESS OF POSITION,

WANT TO KNOW IS THERE

SOMEBODY UP THERE THAT

CARES ABOUT ME?

DO I HAVE A PURPOSE?

YES.

AND THEY WANT AN

EXPERIENCE.

THEY'RE GOING UP TO HAVE

AN EXPERIENCE.

Gordon: BUT THEY WANT

MORE THAN THAT.

THEY WANT A RELATIONSHIP.

YES.

Gordon: WELL, WE

COULD TALK A LONG TIME,

BUT THEY'RE PLAYING THE

MUSIC, SO I'VE GOT TO

CLOSE THE SHOW.

> HERE IS A SCRIPTURE

FOR YOU FROM ROMANS 12:

"BE KIND AND AFFECTIONATE

TO ONE OTHER WITH

BROTHERLY LOVE, REJOICING

IN HOPE, PATIENT IN

TRIBULATION, CONTRIBUTING

DEAD FASTLY IN PRAYER."

FOR ALL OF US HERE, GOD

BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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