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The 700 Club - November 15, 2017

Lead guitarist from Grammy-winning Third Day, Mark Lee visits the 700 Club. Plus, the “first feminist government in the world,” is making their nation less safe for women. Find out why. Read Transcript


TODAY, THEY'RE THE

FIRST FEMINIST GOVERNMENT

IN THE WORLD, SO WHY ARE

THEY MAKING THEIR NATION

LESS SAFE FOR WOMEN.

> PLUS...THE LEAD

GUITARIST FROM THE BAND,

"THIRD DAY," TAKES US DOWN

HIS ROAD.

> PLUS, A TORN ROTATOR

CUFF AND 30 YEARS OF PAIN,

AND HOW HE GOT HEALED.

I'M CLAIMING IT AS

MINE.

PYO ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB," FOLKS.

STARTLING THINGS ARE

COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE

GETTING THEIR ACT

TOGETHER.

THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE

ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

THEY'RE WORKING TO REPEAL

AND REPLACE ONE FEATURE OF

OBAMACARE, WHICH IS THE

SO-CALLED INDIVIDUAL

MANDATE.

AND THE SENATE IS ON

BOARD.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE

GOING TO PASS TAX RELIEF,

WHICH WILL BE A BOON AND A

BLESSING TO EVERY SINGLE

PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY.

WENDY?

Wendy: A NOVEMBER

MIRACLE MAY BE UNFOLDING.

Pat: AMEN.

Wendy: WELL, THAT

MOVE WILL BE PART OF THE

SENATE'S TAX REFORM PLAN,

AND IT IS SOMETHING

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN

CALLING FOR.

HEATHER SELLS BRINGS US

THE FULL STORY.

Heather: SENATE

REPUBLICANS SAY IF THE

GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FORCE

AMERICANS TO BUY HEALTH

CARE INSURANCE, IT WILL

HELP THEM FINANCIALLY.

ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH

LOWER INCOMES.

RIGHT NOW ABOUT HALF OF

THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THE

PENALTY UNDER THE

INDIVIDUAL MANDATE ARE

PEOPLE THAT MAKE $25,000

OR LESS.

AND RATHER THAN BUY THE

INSURANCE THAT SUPPOSEDLY

WE WANT THEM TO BUY, WE

OVER PRICE IT, AND THEN WE

PENALIZE THEM WHEN THEY

CAN'T AFFORD IT.

Heather: REPUBLICANS

SAY IF THEY REPEAL THE

INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, THEY

WILL SAVE THE GOVERNMENT

WELL OVER $300 BILLION IN

THE NEXT DECADE.

THAT'S BECAUSE FEWER

PEOPLE WOULD SIGN UP FOR

MEDICAID OR BUY THE

PRIVATE INSURANCE THAT THE

GOVERNMENT HELPS TO PAY

FOR.

AND SAVING THAT KIND OF

MONEY WOULD HELP PAY FOR

TAX REFORM, AND THE

REVENUE THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT WILL

THEORETICALLY MOVE BY

CUTTING CORPORATE AND

INDIVIDUAL TAXES.

REPUBLICANS ALSO ARGUE

THAT AMERICANS WILL SAVE

BY AVOIDING THE OBAMACARE

FINE FORCED ON THOSE WHO

DON'T PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.

THAT WILL BE A HUGE

INFLUX OF MONEY INTO THEIR

POCKET THAT RIGHT NU

THEY'RNOWTHEY'RE HAVING TO PAY THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Heather: BUT

DEMOCRATS SAY IT IS A BAD

IDEA.

THEY ARGUE IT WILL CAUSE

PREMIUMS TO SPIKE AND

POINT TO A GOVERNMENT

ESTIMATE THAT 13 MILLION

AMERICANS WILL LOSE THEIR

HEALTH INSURANCE IN THE

NEXT 10 YEARS.

THAT MEANS THAT THE TAX

BILL IS GOING TO HIT THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH A

HEALTH CARE DOUBLE WHAMMY.

Heather: THE

PRESIDENT, JUST BACK FROM

HIS TRIP TO ASIA, IS

PROMOTING THE REPEAL,

TWEETING THAT THE

INDIVIDUAL MANDATE IS

UNFAIR AND HIGHLY

UNPOPULAR.

THE HOUSE IS SET TO VOTE

ON ITS OWN TAX BILL

THURSDAY, AND THE SENATE

COULD VOTE NEXT WEEK.

IF THE G.O.P. DOES INDEED

PASS TAX REFORM AND REPEAL

A SERIOUS PIECE OF

OBAMACARE, REPUBLICANS

HOPE IT WILL SHOW THAT

WASHINGTON CAN GET

SOMETHING DONE, AND BOTH

STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY AND

PAVE THE WAY FOR NEXT

YEAR'S MID-TERM ELECTIONS.

Pam: THANKS, HEATHER.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE HOUSE

AND THE SENATE ARE GETTING

TOGETHER ON THIS ONE.

EACH CHAMBER WILL PASS ITS

ON TAX BILL, AND THEN

THEY'LL GO INTO

CONFERENCE.

BUT THE ISSUES THAT

SEPARATE THEM ARE

RELATIVELY MINOR.

AND ESPECIALLY HAVING TO

DO WITH THESE HIGH-TECH

STATES.

AND, OF COURSE, THE

REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS

THAT LIVE IN NEW YORK AND

CALIFORNIA AND NEW JERSEY

AND OTHER HIGH TAX STATES,

LIKE ILLINOIS, THEY'RE

SAYING THIS BILL IS

UNFAIR, BUT IT IS NOT

UNFAIR.

IT IS GOING TO SAY THAT WE

NO LONGER WILL SUBSIDIZE

YOU WITH LOW TAX STATES,

TO PAY FOR YOUR HIGH

TAXES.

AND MAYBE SOME OF THE

POLITICIANS IN THOSE

STATES WILL SAY, MAYBE WE

HAVE TO LOWER OUR TAXES,

TOO.

IT MAY HAVE A RIPPLE

EFFECT THAT WILL BE A

BLESSING FOR EVERYBODY.

> WHILE ISSUES LIKE TAX

REFORM AND OBAMACARE HAVE

BEEN IN THE HEADLINES,

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN

QUIETLY RESHAPING A KEY

PART OF THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT: THE JUDICIARY.

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT

STORY.

John: THAT'S RIGHT.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS STILL

SEARCHING FOR MAJOR

LEGISLATIVE VICTORY IN

CONGRESS, BUT THE

PRESIDENT HAS BEEN

CONSISTENTLY NOMINATING

THE KIND OF JUDGES WHO CAN

CHANGE AMERICA FAR INTO

THE FUTURE.

Reporter: YOU MIGHT

THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP

DOESN'T GET MUCH DONE

EXCEPT GET INVOLVED IN

DAILY CONTROVERSIES, BUT

THERE IS ONE AREA WHERE HE

IS MAKING MAJOR CHANGES

THAT COULD AFFECT THE

COUNTRY FOR DECADES TO

COME.

THIS PRESIDENT HAS THE

OPPORTUNITY TO FILL AS

MANY AS 40% OF THE SEATS

ON THE FEDERAL BENCH.

THAT WILL JUST BE

TRANSFORMATIVE.

AND THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN

NOMINATING JUDGES IN THE

MOLD OF THE LATE ANTHONY

SCALICE, WHO USED THE LAW

AS IT IS WRITTEN, RATHER

THAN COMING UP WITH HIS

OWN INTERPRETATIONS.

THERE ARE 107 VACANCIES,

AND THEIR INFLUENCE --

WILL LAST 40, 50 YEARS.

Reporter: JOHN

MALCOLM SUGGESTED SEVERAL

OF THE NAMES ON TRUMP'S

SHORT LIST, BUT HE POINTS

OUT THAT MOST OF TRUMP'S

NOMINEES WILL SIT ON LOWER

COURTS, AND HE SAYS THAT

IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE

COURTS DECIDE 99% OF THE

CASES.

THERE WAS A DIVIDED

LEFT-WARD TILT BY SOME OF

THESE COURTS DURING THE

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, SO I

THINK FROM A CONSERVATIVE

STANDPOINT, GETTING THAT

SHIFT OF THE JUDICIARY

TURNED BACK IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION IS INCREDIBLY

IMPORTANT TO THE DIRECTION

OF THE LAW.

Reporter: MANY VOTERS

SAID IT WAS TRUMP'S STAND

ON CONSTITUTIONAL JUDGES

THAT WAS A MAJOR REASON TO

VOTE FOR HIM.

AND LEO UNDERSTANDS.

THE PRESIDENT LOVES

AMERICA.

AND THE PRESIDENT

UNDERSTANDS THAT THE

CONSTITUTION, AND IN

PARTICULAR THE

CONSTITUTION IN THE WAY

THE FRAMERS MEANT IT TO

BE, HAS SOMEBODY TO DO

WITH OUR EXCEPTIONAL

CHARACTER AND QUALITY AS A

COUNTRY.

Reporter: IT IS

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S JOB TO

PICK JUDICIAL NOMINEES.

MITCHELL McCONNELL HAS

HAD A ROUGH TIME GETTING

MAJOR LEGISLATION PASSED

IN TRUMP'S FIRST YEAR, BUT

HE SHOWED AN IRON RESOLVE

IN CHOOSING THE NOMINEES.

HE IS TRYING TO

EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

HE ANNOUNCED HE IS GOING

TO KEEP THE SENATE IN

SESSION LONGER, WHICH

SHOULD ALLOW MORE NOMINEES

TO GO THROUGH.

Reporter: BUT

DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN

FIGHTING TO SLOW THE

CONFIRMATION PROCESS TO A

SNAIL'S PACE, LIKE

DEMANDING 30 HOURS OF

DEBATE ON EACH NOMINEE,

WHICH COULD TAKE YEARS AND

YEARS.

BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE

AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN

THEIR FAVOR, COURTESY OF

HARRY REID.

HE WIPED OUT THE

FILIBUSTER OF JUDICIAL

NOMINEES SO THAT NOW

MINORITY DEMOCRATS CAN'T

USE IT TO STOP REPUBLICAN

NOMINEES.

WELL, THAT FALLS INTO

THE CATEGORY OF WHAT GOES

AROUND COMES AROUND.

SO HARRY REID DID THIS

IN ORDER TO PACK THE D.C.

CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS.

Reporter: MANY HAVE

WORRIED IF THE ESSENCE OF

THE CONSTITUTION CAN

SURVIVE, BUT IT IS EVIDENT

TO THE KIND OF NOMINEES HE

IS PICKING, THAT PRESIDENT

TRUMP IS DOING ALL HE CAN

TO INSURE THE

CONSTITUTIONAL LAW

CONTINUES FOR YEARS TO

COME.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,

CAPITOL HILL.

John: THANKS, PAUL.

PAT, RESHAPING THE

JUDICIARY.

Pat: THE JUDICIARY

HAS RESHAPED AMERICA.

THE DECISIONS, LIKE ROE

VS. WADE, A TINY OF

PEOPLE -- LET'S FACE IT,

YOU HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF

PEOPLE SITTING ON THE

BENCH, AND THE MAJORITY OF

THEM, SO IF YOU HAVE FIVE

VOTES, FIVE JUDGES CAN

DECIDE THE POLICY OF THE

NATION, INSTEAD OF

CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT

AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THESE ARE UNELECTED

JUDGES, AND THEY HAVE

EXERCISED ENORMOUS POWER

OVER THE MOST IMPORTANT

DETAILS OF OUR LIFE.

AND THEY HAVE BROUGHT THE

COUNTRY, IN MY OPINION,

FAR, FAR, FAR TO THE LEFT.

AND IT HAS BEEN A DAMAGING

THING ON OUR MORALS AND

OUR OUR ACTIVITIES AS MANY

BEINGS.

AND THE COURT REALLY

SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN

INTO THAT, BUT THEY DID.

THEY INTERPOSED THEMSELVES

INTO AREAS THAT SHOULD

HAVE BEEN LEFT TO THE

ELECTOREELECTED OFFICIALS OR THE

GENERAL PUBLIC.

BUT THEY HAVEN'T DO IT.

THEY HAVE TAKEN POWER AND

THEY HAVE USERPED POWER.

AND NOW YOU HAVE A CHANGE.

FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO

SCREAM FOUL, IT IS JUST

RIDICULOUS.

BECAUSE HARRY REID DID IT.

HE BROKE THROUGH THE

FILIBUSTER, AND FROM NOW

ON A SIMPLE MAJORITY --

AND IF THE REPUBLICANS

HOLD ON TO THAT MAJORITY,

THEY CAN JUST HAVE THEIR

WILL IN TERMS OF JUDGES.

AND THE PRESIDENT HAS A

LIST FROM THE FEDERALIST

SOCIETY ABOUT STANDING

JUDGES WHO WANT TO UPHOLD

THE CONSTITUTION AS IT IS

WRITTEN, NOT AS JUDGES

FEEL LIKE THEY CAN REWRITE

IT.

AND IT'S A MAJOR DEAL,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE

REASONS WHY THEY NEED TO

HOLD ON TO THE COURT.

AND THEY NEED TO PASS TAX

REFORM AND DO OTHER THINGS

THAT ARE PLEASING TO THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE SO THAT

THEY CAN GET RE-ELECTED.

AND IF THEY PASS THIS TAX

REFORM -- WHICH THEY SEEM

INTENT TO DO -- THEN I

THINK THOSE CONGRESSMEN

AND SENATORS WILL HAVE AN

EASY RU RUN IN THE NEXT

ELECTION.

IF THEY FAIL TO DO IT, AS

I SAY, THERE WILL BE A

WHOLE LOT OF UBER DRIVERS

WHO WERE EX-CONGRESSMEN

AND SENATORS.

John: THANKS, PAT.

AS WE'VE BEEN REPORTING,

THE MUSEUM OF THE BIBLE

OPENS THIS WEEKEND HERE IN

WASHINGTON.

SO WHAT CAN VISITORS

EXPECT AND WHAT CAN THEY

SEE?

JENNIFER WISHON BRINGS US

THAT STORY.

Jennifer: EVEN BEFORE

GUESTS WALKED THROUGH THE

DOOR, THE MUSEUM OF THE

BIBLE MAKES A BIG

IMPRESSION.

ON BOTH SIDES OF THE

ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING

ARE 40-FOOT-HIGH GATES.

THEY WEIGH 2.5 TONS EACH.

THEY'RE BRONZE CAST.

IT IS THE FIRST EDITION OF

THE GUTENBERG BIBLE, THE

BOOK OF GENESIS.

Jennifer: ONCE

INSIDE, VISITORS WILL SEE

A 40-FOOT PIECE OF GLASS,

ETCHED WITH PSALM 15.

WE BELIEVE IT IS TIME

THE BEST-SELLING BOOK OF

ALL TIME, THE MOST BANNED

BOOK OF ALL TIME, THE MOST

DEBATED BOOK OF ALL TIME,

THE MOST BURNED BOOK OF

ALL TIME WILL HAVE A

PROMINENT SPACE WITHIN THE

GLOBAL MUSEUM SYSTEM,

WITHIN THE GLOBAL IN

GENERAL, AND IT HAPPENS TO

BE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

Jennifer: IN THE

HEART OF WASHINGTON, D.C.,

JUST OFF THE NATIONAL MALL

AND A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE

CAPITAL, THERE IS EVEN A

METRO UNDERNEATH THE

BUILDING.

IN ADDITION TO HISTORY,

TECHNOLOGY IS ON FULL

DISPLAY.

EACH PERSON WILL BE HANDED

A TABLET TO CUSTOMIZE

THEIR VISIT.

IT ALLOWS YOU TO SET THE

LENGTH OF YOUR TOUR, AREA

OF INTEREST, AND LEVEL OF

KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE BIBLE,

FROM A CHILD'S

UNDERSTANDING TO THAT OF

AN ARCHEOLOGIST.

AS YOU'RE STANDING IN

FRONT OF A CASE, IT WILL

TELL YOU 33 SECONDS --

WHATEVER IT IS -- WHEN AND

YOU EXCEED THE 33 SECONDS,

YOU CAN STAY THERE, OF

COURSE, BUT IT WILL SAY IF

YOU DON'T KEEP MOVING YOU

WILL NOT BE ABLE TO

COMPLETE THE TOUR IN YOUR

TWO HOURS.

Jennifer: CHECKING

OUT ALL OF THE SIGHTS

WOULD TAKE NINE EIGHT-HOUR

DAYS, SO YOU MAY WANT TO

PLAN SEVERAL TRIPS.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE

WORLD WAS GOING TO BE LIKE

TODAY, LOOKING AT 2017,

BUT GOD DID.

AND HE MADE THE PROVISIONS

AVAILABLE, HE MADE REAL

ESTATE AVAILABLE, AND HE

MADE PEOPLE AVAILABLE.

IT IS HIS TIMING, NOT

OURS.

WE FEEL INCREDIBLY HUMBLED

BY IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT

SMART ENOUGH TO DO THIS,

BUT HE IS.

Jennifer: THE MUSEUM

TAKES NO PARTICULAR BRANCH

OF RELIGION.

AND THAT HAS CAUSED SOME

CONTROVERSY.

BUT SUMMERS SAYS THE BIBLE

CAN SPEAK FOR ITSELF

WITHOUT ANY TERP

INTERPRETATIONS.

OUR JOB IS TO SHOW THE

BIBLE.

DON'T ADD TO, DON'T TAKE

AWAY, AND GOD WILL DO WITH

IT WHAT HE PLEASES.

Jennifer: SO START

MAKING PLANS TO VISIT NOW.

JENNIFER WISHON, CBN NEWS,

WASHINGTON.

John: THANKS,

JENNIFER.

FOR MORE ON THE MUSEUM OF

THE BIBLE, YOU CAN CHANGE

OUT "FAITH NATION" CB CBN

NEWS% Facebook PAGE.

DAVID BRODY TALKS WITH THE

DIRECTOR OF THE MUSEUM

CONTENT ABOUT THE DECISION

TO DOWNPLAY CHRIST.

YOU CAN WATCH "FAITH

NATION."

ON Facebook.com/700club.

> TURNING OVERSEAS,

VENEZUELA MISSED INTEREST

PAYMENTS ON SOME OF ITS

GOVERNMENT BONDS AT THE

BEGINNING OF THE WEEK.

THAT'S BECAUSE THE COUNTRY

HAS STARTED TO REFINANCE

SOME OF ITS BONDS.

BUT THE STANDARD AND

POOR'S SAYS IT IS IN

SELECTIVE DEFAULT.

THE VENEZUELAN GOVERNMENT

MET WITH CREDITORS ON

MONDAY.

CRITICS SAY THE SOCIALIST

COUNTRY IS SIMPLY BROKE

AND NEEDS TO CHANGE ITS

POLICIES SO THE ECONOMY

CAN GROW.

PAT, I'M SURE THAT THIS

COMES AS NO SURPRISE TO

YOU.

Pat: THERE IS AN

ARTICLE IN THE "WALL

STREET JOURNAL" ABOUT THE

YOUNG WHO HAD SUCH FUTURE

AND HOPE IN VENEZUELA.

VENEZUELA WAS ONE OF THE

MOST PROSPEROUS COUNTRIES

IN LATIN-AMERICA.

IT HAD PROBABLY AS MUCH

OIL AS ANY OTHER NATION ON

EARTH.

IT WAS VERY RICH, AND

THERE WAS HOPE FOR ALL OF

THEM TO HAVE A GOOD FUTURE

IN THE COUNTRY.

IT HAS BEEN RUINED BY

SOCIALISM.

IF YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT

SOCIALISM CAN DO TO A

COUNTRY, THAT IS EXHIBIT

"A."

JUST LOOK AT VENEZUELA.

IT HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY

THE POLICIES, FIRST OF

CHAVEZ, AND THEN BY

MADURO.

IT HAS BEEN OUTRAGEOUS

WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

AND EVERYTHING THEY DO HAS

HURT THE COUNTRY.

THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING

THAT HELPS THE PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE ARE STARVING.

THEY GO ACROSS THE BORDER

TO COLOMBIA TO GET FOOD.

THE SHELVES ARE EMPTY.

THEY CAN'T BUY ANYTHING.

THEIR HEALTH CARE IS A

SHAMBLES.

YOU GO DOWN THE LIST.

AND THEIR OIL PRODUCTION

IS IN TATTERS BECAUSE THEY

DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP THE

WELLS GOING.

SO THE SOURCE OF THEIR

INCOME HAS BEEN DEPLETED

OVER THE YEARS.

IT IS JUST AED SAD MESS.

AND I WONDERED WHY THE

ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN

STATES DIDN'T MOVE IN

DECLARE A DEFAULT AND

REALLY TAKE THE COUNTRY

OVER, BUT THEY HAVEN'T

DONE IT.

THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE

EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET

RID OF MADURO AND HIS

CREW.

MAYBE THEY CAN DO IT.

MAYBE THIS DEFAULT MAY

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

BECAUSE NOW THEY CAN'T

BORROW MONEY OR PAY FOR

ANYTHING WITH BORROWED

FUNDS, AND THEY WILL BE

SUFFERING EXTREME TORMENT

AND EXTREME POVERTY.

SO, WENDY, IT BREAKS YOUR

HEART TO SEE WHAT CHAVEZ

AND HIS CREW DID.

THAT'S THE CHILD, THE

SPAWN, IF YOU WILL, OF

SOCIALISM.

Wendy: DO YOU THINK

THERE IS HOPE FOR A

COMEBACK FOR THAT NATION?

Pat: NO.

THERE IS HOPE FOR A

COMEBACK IF THEY GET RID

OF MADURO AND HIS CREW AND

CHANGE BACK TO THE WAY

THEY USED TO BE.

I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT THE

RESOURCES.

BUT THEY DESTROYED THEM.

THEY KICKED OUT SO MANY OF

THE EUROPEAN EXPERTS ON

OIL PRODUCTION.

THEY NATIONALIZED A LOT OF

THE WELLS AND SO FORTH.

IT IS JUST A MESS.

I GOT IN HOT WATER SOME

YEARS AGO.

I WAS DECLARING SOME OF

THE THINGS THEY WERE

DOING, AND CHAVEZ HAD

SAID, YOU KNOW, THE

AMERICANS ARE TRYING TO

ASSASSINATE ME.

AND I SORT OF SAID, WELL,

WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND

DO IT.

AND THAT WAS HEADLINES,

ROBERTSON CALLS FOR THE

ASSASSINATION OF CHAVEZ.

BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE AS

ASSASSINATED THEM.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE

GREATEST THING FOR

VENEZUELA, IF THE PEOPLE

COULD HAVE KICKED THAT

GOVERNMENT OUT, BUT THEY

DIDN'T DO IT.

Wendy: THAT'S ONE WAY

TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING

LIKE THAT, I GUESS.

> ALL RIGHT.

UP NEXT, THERE IS A PLACE

WHERE VIOLENT CRIME IS ON

THE RISE AND YOU'RE NOT

ALLOWED TO SAY WHY.

WHAT WOULD BE THE

REACTION IF SOMEONE SAID

THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE.

RACIST.

Wendy: CBN NEWS TAKES

US INSIDE THE

MULTI-CULTURAL CAPITAL OF

SWEDEN, WHEN WE COME BACK.

Pat: WELL, YOU'RE

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE SO DELIGHTED TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

WE'VE GOT SOME MORE GREAT

THINGS COMING UP.

WENDY IS GOING TO HAVE AN

INTERVIEW THAT YOU'LL

ENJOY, SO DON'T GO AWAY.

> BUT WITH ALL OF THE

CURRENT REVELATIONS ABOUT

RAPE AND SEXUAL

HARASSMENT, ONE PLACE

WHERE WOMEN SHOULD BE SAFE

IS IN THE HOME OF THE

WORLD'S FIRST SO-CALLED

FEMINIST GOVERNMENT.

WHICH ONE?

SWEDEN.

BY THE WAY, I PLAYED GOLF

IN SWEDEN YEARS AGO, AND

I'M NOT A VERY GOOD

GOLFER.

I WAS PLAYING BY MYSELF.

AND THIS LADY -- THIS

WOMAN CAME TO ME AND SAID

THERE ARE WOMEN PLAYING ON

THIS COURSE AND THEY PLAY

VERY FAST, WHY DON'T YOU

GET OFF.

I WAS THROWN OFF THE GOLF

COURSE BY A WOMAN.

THAT WAS YEARS AND YEARS

AGO.

Wendy: HOW RUDE.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: THE REALITY IS

SWEDEN, FROM A WOMAN'S

PARADISE, IS VERY

INTERESTING BECAUSE THE

NAME OF MULTI-CULTURALS IN

SWEDEN IS PUTTING ITS OWN

WOMEN IN DANGER.

DALE HURD TOOK A LOOK AT

EUROPE'S POSTER CHILD,

SWEDEN.

Reporter: THIS IS

WHAT IRANIANS SAW EARLIER

THIS YEAR WHEN NON-MUSLIM

REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

SELF-DESCRIBED FIRST

FEMINIST GOVERNMENT OF

SWEDEN PAID A STATE VISIT

TO TEHRAN.

SWEDISH MINISTERS WEARING

ISLAMIC HEAD COVERINGS.

THE SWEDES COULD HAVE

CHOSEN THE MOMENT TO

BRAVELY SHOW THEIR SUPPORT

FOR IRANIAN WOMEN, SOME OF

WHOM ARE RISKIN RISKING THEIR

LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THE

RIGHT TO NOT WEAR A HIJAB.

INSTEAD THEY SHOWED

SUPPORT FOR IRAN'S ISLAMIC

GOVERNMENT, SAYING NOT TO

WEAR A HEAD SCARF WOULD BE

ILLEGAL.

THE CRITICS SAY THIS KIND

OF DOUBLE STANDARD ON

WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS NOTHING

NEW IN SWEDEN, WHERE THE

WORLD'S FIRST FEMINIST

GOVERNMENT WHO'S HAD A

ROLE IN MAKING THE NATION

LESS SAFE FOR WOMEN.

SWEDEN LIKES TO THINK IT

HAS A FEMINIST GOVERNMENT,

BUT IT SEEMS THERE ARE TWO

SETS OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS

HERE: ONE FOR NATIVE

SWEDES AND ANOTHER FOR

IMMIGRANTS.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A

LOT OF HYPOCRISY.

Reporter: THIS

SWEDISH PARLIAMENT MEMBER

KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT

IRAN AND HEAD SCARVES.

A OCCURRED BOR A KURD BORN IN ISLAM --

TODAY SHE IS FIGHTING FOR

WOMEN AS PART OF SWEDEN'S

LEFT PARTY.

SO YOU SAY YOU'RE

CALLED SOMETIMES AN

ISLAMOPHOBE?

IN SWEDEN, YEAH.

THAT IS IN SWEDEN.

IT IS HORRIBLE, BUT --

UNFORTUNATELY.

Reporter: HER MESSAGE

IS THAT IN A NATION THAT

LIKES TO THINK OF

THEMSELVES AS ONE OF THE

MOST ADVANCED SOCIETIES IN

THE WORLD, A NATION WITH

THE POPULATION OF THE

STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA,

200,000 YOUNG PEOPLE ARE

NOW AT RISK FROM HONOR

VIOLENCE.

SOME SWEDISH HOSPITALS

HAVE EVEN DONE VIRGINITY

CHECKS ON YOUNG WOMEN.

STATISTICS ALSO SHOW THAT

THE INCIDENTS OF SEXUAL

CRIMES HAVE RISEN

DRAMATICALLY, BUT THIS

SWEDISH ECONOMIST AND

AUTHOR SAYS THE SWEDISH

ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUES TO

CONFIRM THERE IS NO LINK

BETWEEN IMMIGRANTS AND

CRIME, SEXUAL OR

OTHERWISE.

THEY SAY THERE IS NO

LINK BETWEEN IMMIGRATION

AND CRIME.

Reporter: HOW CAN

THEY SAY THAT?

THEY'RE IRRATIONAL AND

THEY'RE IN A BUBBLE.

IT IS SORT OF IN THE WAY

OF FAKE NEWS.

THEY WILL USE IRRATIONAL,

AAGGRESSIVELY IRRATIONAL

ARGUMENTS TO DENY THE

LINK.

THEY SAY THINGS LIKE, THE

COMMON DENOMINATOR IN

HONOR KILLINGS IS MEN.

IT IS AN ILLOGICAL, RETOR

RETORICAL TRICK TO CONFUSE

PEOPLE.

Reporter: THE SWEDISH

GOVERNMENT BLAMES THE

CRIME ON SOCIOECONOMIC

DIFFERENCES.

MEANWHILE, IN A NATION

WHERE THE SAFETY OF WOMEN

SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT, WOMEN

HAVE TAKEN ACTION TO

DEFEND THEMSELVES.

TASERS AND PEPPERSPRAY ARE

ILLEGAL IN SWEDEN, SO

AUTHORITIES SOMEHOW THINK

THESE BRACELETS THAT SAY

"DO NOT MOLEST ME" WILL

HELP.

I FEEL THREATENED

BECAUSE IF I WALK OUTSIDE

AT NIGHT, IT CAN HAPPEN TO

ME, TOO.

I CAN'T DEFEND MYSELF.

Reporter: BUT THE

MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN

SWEDEN TODAY OR MIGRANTS,

LIVING IN FEAR IN REFUGEE

SHELTERS, AS SHOWN IN THIS

DOCUMENTARY.

[SPEAKING A FOREIGN

LANGUAGE]

Reporter: AS THIS

DOCUMENTARY SHOWS, THE

SWEDISH MEDIA IS NOW AT

LEAST SHOWING THE PROBLEM.

I THINK SWEDEN IS AT A

TIPPING POINT NOW IN THE

DEBUT.

Reporter: THIS

BLOGGER SAYS SWEDEN HAS

IMPORTED A WHOLE HOST OF

PROBLEMS WITH ITS

IMMIGRATION POLICY,

INCLUDING MIGRANTS WHO ARE

NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO GET

JOBS IN SWEDEN'S HIGH-TECH

ECONOMY.

WHAT WOULD BE THE REACTION

IF SOMEONE SAID THIS IS A

BIG MISTAKE?

RACIST.

Reporter: THE SWEDISH MODEL IS

MULTI-CULTURISM.

THE OFFICIAL MESSAGE IS:

KEEP YOUR CULTURE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO

INTEGRATE.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE THE

GOVERNMENT SAYS.

IN FACT, THEY SAY WE DON'T

WANT YOU TO INTEGRATE.

Reporter: AND IT

FEELS AS IF THE SWEDISH

GOVERNMENT'S NUMBER ONE

PRIORITY IS PRESERVING ITS

MULTI-CULTURAL EXPERIMENT

AND NOT PROTECTING WOMEN.

DALE HURD, CBN NEWS,

STOCKHOLM.

Pat: IT IS HARD TO

BELIEVE THAT A COUNTRY

THAT HAS ONE OF THE GREAT

PIONEERS OF PENTACOSTAL

FAITH AND OTHER CHURCHES,

THE PHILADELPHIA KIRKA,

ONE OF THE MOST

OUTSTANDING CHURCHES OF

THE WORLD -- KNE THEY ARE ALL

IN SWEDEN.

AND SWEDEN WAY THE HAVEN

IN WORLD WAR II.

SWEDEN WAS A PLACE OF

SAFETY AND REFUGE FROM

OPPRESSION, AND NOW LOOK

WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

THAT'S WHAT

MULTI-CULTURALISM WILL DO.

WE SAW VENEZUELA, THE

POSTER CHILD OF SOCIALIST

DESTRUCTION.

WELL, SWEDEN IS FAST

BECOMING THE POSTER CHILD

OF MULTI-CULTURAL

DESTRUCTION.

I'M NOT MOVING TO

SWEDEN -- I LIKE IT HERE

IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT

IN CASE ANY OF YOU WANT TO

GO TO SWEDEN, IT ISN'T THE

PARADISE THEY WOULD LIKE

TO CLAIM IT IS.

WENDY?

Wendy: I'M NOT GOING

EITHER.

> COMING UP NEXT, THE

MAN WHO STARTED A BAND

THAT HAS GONE ON TO SELL

EIGHT MILLION RECORDS AND

WIN FOUR GRAMMY AWARDS.

MARK LEE PERFORMS FOR US

LIVE, WHEN WE COME BACK.

Wendy: IN THE EARLY

'90s, IT WASN'T UNCOMMON

FOR THE BAND FORMERLY

KNOWN AS "NUCLEAR

HOEDOWN," TO PACK THEIR

GEAR IN A LITTLE VAN,

DRIVE 15 HOURS, AND PLAY

FOR AN AUDIENCE OF JUST

100 PEOPLE.

AT THE TIME, GUITARIST

MARK LEE WAS LIVING THE

DREAM, AND NEVER IMAGINED

WHAT GOD HAD PLANNED FOR

HIM NEXT.

Reporter: MARK LEE IS

THE FOUNDING MEMBER AND

GUITARIST OF THE CHRISTIAN

ROCK BAND "THIRD DAY."

OVER TWO DECADES, THE BAND

HAS RELEASED 13 ALBUMS,

WITH TOTAL SALES OF EIGHT

MILLION.

BUT THE ROAD TO SUCCESS

FOR MARK DIDN'T COME

WITHOUT HEARTACHE.

AT 14 HE WAS HIT BY A

TRUCK AND SEVERELY

INJURED.

TWO YEARS LATER, MARK'S

DAD DIED FROM BREAST

CANCER.

INSTEAD OF GIVING UP, HE

CHOSE TO TRUST GOD AND HAS

SEEN AN AMAZING DREAM

UNFOLD OVER THE LAST 25

YEARS.

IN HIS MEMOIR, HE SHARES

THE HIGHS AND LOWS ABOUT

THE LESSONS HE HAS LEARNED

ABOUT FAITH, SUCCESS, AND

LIFE.

Wendy: AND PLEASE

WELCOME TO "THE 700 CLUB"

FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME

MARK LEE.

MARK, IT IS NICE TO MEET

YOU.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR

HAVING ME.

IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO

FINALLY BE HERE IN PERSON.

Wendy: IT IS AN HONOR

TO MEET YOU BECAUSE I HAVE

LOVED "THIRD DAY'S" MUSIC

FOR SO LONG.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE

THE FOUNDER OF THAT GROUP.

FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT

YOUR MEMOIR, AND IT'S

ENTITLED "HURT ROAD."

AND THERE IS A LITERAL

HURT ROAD.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

THAT'S RIGHT.

WHEN I TRAVEL AROUND AND

SAY I WROTE A BOOK CALLED

"HURT ROAD," PEOPLE SAY, I

GET IT.

IT IS A METAPHOR FOR THE

STRUGGLE WE'RE ON, AND I

SAY THAT'S TRUE, BUT IT IS

ALSO A REAL PLACE.

AS A TEENAGER, I WAS

SELLING DOUGHNUTS FOR MY

CHURCH YOUTH GROUP, AND

WHY MY YOUTH PASTOR

THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA

TO SEND ME TO HURT ROAD,

BUT I HAD JUST MADE MY

FIRST SALE AND I WAS SO

EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND I

TURNED, AND I DIDN'T

REALIZE THE LIGHT HAD

CHANGED, AND I GOT HIT BY

A TRUCK.

I FEEL LIKE IN THAT

MOMENT, GOD TOOK ALL OF

THE LITTLE DREAMS AND

PLANS AND HOPES I HAD FOR

MYSELF AND HE REPLACED

THOSE WITH BIGGER DREAMS

AND PLANS AND HOPES THAT

HE HAD FOR ME.

Wendy: AS A RESULT OF

THAT ACCIDENT -- YOU

WEREN'T BADLY HURT, WERE

YOU?

I BROKE TWO BONES IN MY

RIGHT LEG.

SO I WAS IN AND OUT OF

SCHOOL AND THE HOSPITAL

FOR A GOOD PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT IT WAS DURING THAT

TIME THAT I STARTED

PLAYING GUITAR.

SO I FEEL LIKE -- I WAS

INTO MUSIC A LITTLE BEFORE

THAT, BUT IT WASN'T, LIKE,

THE THING I WANTED TO DO

FOR A JOB FOR ANYTHING.

SO I FEEL LIKE GOD USED

THAT TIME TO PUT ME SORT

OF ON THE PATH HE HAD FOR

ME.

Wendy: BECAUSE YOU

COULDN'T GO OUT AND PLAY

FOOTBALL, SO YOU HAD TO DO

SOMETHING WHILE YOU WERE

RECOVERING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO MY DAD GOT ME A GUITAR

FOR MY 15th BIRTHDAY.

THAT'S WHEN I STARTED

REALLY PLAYING GUITAR AND

WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN

THE.

IT.

AT FIRST I WAS DOING IT AS

THIS COPING MECHANISM, BUT

AFTER A FEW YEARS, I

REALIZED IT WAS SOMETHING

I ENJOYED DOING, AND IT

WAS ALSO SOMETHING I WAS

ACTUALLY KIND OF GOOD AT.

SO IT POINTED TOWARDS

MAYBE THIS IS A TALENT GOD

HAD GIVEN ME THAT I COULD

SHARE AND SERVE OTHER

PEOPLE WITH.

Wendy: YOU DESCRIBED

THE ACCIDENT AS SUCKER

PUNCH ONE.

AND THEN THERE WAS

ANOTHER?

YES.

I MENTIONED HOW MY DAD WAS

SUCH A KEY FIGURE IN MY

LIFE, AND GETTING ME INTO

GUITAR, AND NOT LONG AFTER

MY ACCIDENT, WE NOTICED

THINGS WITH MY DAD, AND HE

WOULD SAY THINGS THAT

DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

WHEN I WAS A SOPHOMORE IN

HIGH SCHOOL, HE WAS

DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST

CANCER, AND THEN WHEN I

WAS 16, HE ACTUALLY DIED

WITH BREAST CANCER.

LOOKING BACK, I FEEL LIKE

GOD GAVE ME THIS SPECIAL

TIME WITH MY DAD.

MY DAD TOOK TIME OFF TO

REARRANGE HIS SCHEDULE SO

HE COULD BE THERE WITH ME

WHEN I WAS OUT OF SCHOOL.

LOOKING BACK, GOD USED

THAT TIME, AND I HAD THIS

SPECIAL TIME WITH MY DAD.

IT WAS HARD AS I WAS GOING

THROUGH IT, BUT LOOKING

BACK I REALIZED THAT

GOD -,

HAVING ME HAD GONE THROUGH

THE ACCIDENT, HE WOULD

GIVE ME THE TIME WITH MY

DAD AND PREPARE ME FOR

DOING THE MUSIC AND

ULTIMATELY STARTING "THIRD

DAY" LATER.

Wendy: HOW OLD WERE

YOU WHEN HE PASSED?

16.

Wendy: THAT'S SO

YOUNG.

IT IS AND IT IS AT THIS

CRITICAL TIME IN YOUR

LIFE, WHEN YOU'RE DECIDING

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO

WITH YOUR LIFE AND IF

YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO

COLLEGE, AND ADDED ON TO

THAT, I HAD THE LOSS OF MY

FATHER.

BUT THROUGH THAT I LEARNED

TO TRUST IN GOD, TRUST

THAT HE HAD -- I ALWAYS

WANTED TO HAVE EVERYTHING

PLANNED OUT AND KNOW FIVE

YEARS, 10 YEARS DOWN THE

ROAD WHAT IS GOING TO BE

HAPPENING.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK

GOD WANTS US TO LIVE THAT

WAY.

HE WANTS US TO LIVE WITH

THIS MOMENT BY MOMENT KIND

OF OBEDIENCE.

Wendy: REALLY AT THAT

TIME, YOU WEREN'T A

BELIEVER, BUT YOU WERE

SEEKING?

WELL, I ACTUALLY GOT

SAVED WHEN I WAS A LITTLE

KID.

I WAS ABOUT NINE YEARS

OLD.

AND IT WAS A GENUINE

THING.

I DEFINITELY BELIEVED

THAT.

BUT AS A LOT OF PEOPLE DO,

YOU HIT THE HIGH SCHOOL

YEARS AND YOU KIND OF

DRIFT A LITTLE BIT AND

YOU'RE DOING YOUR OWN

THING.

AND IT WAS, LIKE, GOD,

YOU'VE GOT SO MANY MORE

IMPORTANT THINGS TO DEAL

WITH, YOU'VE GOT FAMINE

AND NATURAL DISASTER, AND

I'LL KIND OF TAKE CARE OF

MY LITTLE PROBLEMS ON MY

OWN.

AND I LEARNED, OBVIOUSLY,

THAT GOD WANTS US TO TRUST

HIM WITH ALL OF THOSE

LITTLE THINGS.

HE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN

OUR LIVES, IN EVERY DAY

AND IN EVERY MOMENT.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF

FAITH AND TRUST HE WANTS

US TO HAVE.

Wendy: LET'S TALK

ABOUT "THIRD DAY."

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AROUND

FOR A LONG TIME.

HOW DID THE BAND COME

ABOUT?

"NUCLEAR HOEDOWN "?

MATT AND MYSELF -- THE

FIRST BAND WE WERE IN WAS

A HIGH SCHOOL MARCHING

BAND.

HE WAS A DRUM MAJOR AND WE

WERE GOOD FRIENDS.

AND WE STARTED MAKING

MUSIC TOGETHER.

WE WERE IN LITTLE GARAGE

BANDS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

MATT ACTUALLY CAME TO US

ONE DAY -- IT WAS

DEVASTATING TO US AT THE

TIME, AND HE CAME TO US

AND SAID, HE FELT LIKE HE

COULDN'T DO THIS ANYMORE,

AND HE SAID HE FELT LIKE

HE NEEDED TO PUT HIS FAITH

FIRST.

AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS

LATER, HE AND I WERE

HANGING OUT AND TALKING

ABOUT HOW CAN WE STILL DO

MUSIC AND STILL USE OUR

FAITH.

AND I THOUGHT, WHY DON'T

WE DO A CHRISTIAN BAND.

I DIDN'T REALLY GROW UP

LISTENING TO IT.

SO I FEEL LIKE IT WAS THIS

MOMENT OF KIND OF FAITH.

I FELT LIKE GOD WAS

CALLING US TO DO THIS.

THAT WAS THE BEGINNINGS OF

"THIRD DAY," AND 25 YEARS

LATER HERE WE ARE.

Wendy: ARE YOU A

SONGWRITER AS WELL?

I AM.

WE ALL COLLABORATE ON THE

MUSIC TOGETHER.

Wendy: THERE ARE SO

MANY GREAT SONGS, IT IS

HARD TO REMEMBER MY

FAVORITES.

OVER THE YEARS, YOU GUYS

HAVE BEEN THERE.

YOU TURN ON CHRISTIAN

RADIO, AND THERE IS "THIRD

DAY," AND THERE IS THAT

SONG THAT JUST MINISTERS

TO YOUR SOUL.

WE'RE SO GLAD GOD GAVE YOU

THAT IDEA WAY BACK WHEN.

MARK, WE'RE GOING TO LET

YOU GET READY TO SING FOR

US.

TO HEAR MORE FROM MARK,

YOU CAN GO TO OUR

Facebook PAGE.

IT'S ON

Facebook.com/700club.

AGAIN, MARK'S BOOK IS

CALLED "THE HURT ROAD,"

THE MUSIC, THE MEMORIES,

AND THE MILES BETWEEN.

AND IT IS AVAILABLE IN

STORES NATIONWIDE.

IF YOU'RE A "THIRD DAY"

THAN, YOU'VE GOT TO GET

THIS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP

"THIRD DAY'S" LATEST

ALBUM, IT IS CALLED

"REVIVAL."

NOW HERE IS MARK LEE WITH

THE GRAMMY-NOMINATED HIT,

"SOUL ON FIRE."

*

* GOD, I'M RUNNING FOR

YOUR HEART *

* I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* TILL I I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* I'M WAITING FOR THE DAY

WHEN I AM A SOUL ON FIRE *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

*

* GOD, I'M RUNNING FOR

YOUR HEART *

* I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* LORD, I'M RUNNING FOR

THE WAVE *

* I'M WAITING FOR THE DAY

WHEN I AM A SOUL ON FIRE *

*

UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* LORD, RESTORE THE JOY I

HAVE *

* I HAVE WANDERED, BRING

ME BACK *

* IN THIS DARKNESS, LEAD

ME THROUGH *

*

UNTIL ALL I SEE IS YOU *

* GOD, I'M RUNNING FOR

YOUR HEART *

* I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* LORD, I'M LONGING FOR

YOUR WAYS *

* I'M WAITING FOR THE DAY

WHEN I AM A SOUL ON FIRE *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* LORD, LET ME BURN FOR

YOU AGAIN *

* LET ME RETURN TO YOU

AGAIN *

* LORD, LET ME BURN FOR

YOU AGAIN *

* LET ME RETURN TO YOU

AGAIN *

*

GOD, I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* LORD, I'M LONGING FOR

YOUR WAYS *

* I'M WAITING FOR THE DAY

WHEN I AM A SOUL ON FIRE *

*

GOD, I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

* I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR

HEART *

*

UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

* UNTIL I AM A SOUL ON

FIRE *

*

[APPLAUSE]

STILL AHEAD...A HARD

WORKER WHO ENDURED

CONSTANT PAIN FOR TWO

DECADES.

THAT WOULD CAUSE THE

SHOULDER TO HURT.

WHY HE NO LONGER HURT.

IT WAS GONE.

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN

NEWSBREAK.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

SUPPORTERS WON A MAJOR

VICTORY IN AUSTRALIA.

62% OF AUSTRALIAN VOTERS

SUPPORTED GAY MARRIAGE IN

A POSTAL SURVEY.

SO PARLIAMENT WILL

CONSIDER CHANGING THE LAW.

A BILL HAS BEEN DRAFTED

THAT WOULD PROTECT

CHURCHES AND MINISTERS

FROM HOSTING OR PERFORMING

GAY WEDDINGS.

> WELL, TEEN SUICIDE IS

WAY UP AFTER A 20-YEAR

DROP.

THE CENTER FOR DISEASE

CONTROL AND PREVENTION

SAYS THE RATE INCREASED

40% AMONG GIRLS AND 30%

AMONG BOYS.

WHY THE RATES WENT UP

ISN'T KNOWN.

SOME MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS

SAY THERE COULD BE A LINK

WITH THE RISE IN SOCIAL

MEDIA.

RECENT TEEN SUICIDES HAVE

BEEN BLAMED ON ONLINE

BULLYING, AND SOME POSTS

SHOWING SEEMINGLY PERFECT

LIVES COULD ALSO BE A

FACTOR BECAUSE THEY LEAVE

SOME KIDS FEELING

DEPRESSED AND LEFT OUT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

cbnnews.com.

WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF

"THE 700 CLUB" RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Pat: WELCOME BACK TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

ITWANT TO INTRODUCI WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO

TOM GRACE.

AFTER A FREAK ACCIDENT,

TOM TORE HIS ROTATOR CUFF.

HE THEN ENDURED THE NEXT

20 YEARS WITH ONLY AN

OCCASIONAL TYLENOL TO NUMB

THE PAIN.

TOM THOUGHT SURGERY WAS IN

THE FUTURE TO FIX THAT

ROTATOR CUFF, UNTIL ONE

DAY HE WAS WATCHING A

PROGRAM ON TELEVISION

CALLED "THE 700 CLUB."

Reporter: TOM GRACE

SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER AS

A LANDSCAPER IN THE

PACIFIC NORTHWEST.

I ENJOY WORKING

OUTSIDE.

I LIKE TRYING TO MAKE

THINGS LOOK NATURAL.

Reporter: BUT IN THE

LATE '90s, WHILE ON THE

JOB, TOM HAD AN ACCIDENT

WITH A WOOD CHIPPER.

THIS PARTICULAR CHIPPER

WOULD ACTUALLY GRAB

WHATEVER YOU HAD, SO YOU

WOULDN'T QUITE GET LOOSE

OF IT.

AND IT WOULD JERK YOUR

ARM.

IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP

TEARING MY ROTATOR CUFF.

Reporter: TOM DIDN'T

HAVE ANY MEDICAL INSURANCE

AND COULDN'T AFFORD TO SEE

A DOCTOR, SO HE HAD TO

MANAGE THE PAIN ON HIS

OWN.

PRETTY MUCH JUST WAS

CAREFUL WITH IT, MADE SURE

I DIDN'T HURT IT.

IF I DID, IT WAS PUT HEAT

ON IT AT NIGHT AND LAY

DOWN.

TO TAKE THE WEIGHT OFF OF

IT WHEN I WAS DRIVING, I

SAT WITH MY FIST DOUBLED

UP.

Reporter: OVER THE

YEARS, AS THE PAIN GOT

WORSE, TOM WOULD OFTEN

HAVE TO ASK HIS CO-WORKERS

FOR HELP.

WHEN I RAISED IT ABOVE,

OR AROUND THE EDGE

TRIMMERS, THAT WAS A

NO-NO.

THAT COULD CAUSE PAIN FOR

SEVERAL DAYS.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

JUST DOING EVERYDAY THINGS

WERE PAINFUL.

EVEN SHAKING HANDS WITH

SOMEBODY.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE DONE BUT

THEY ARE NOT, AND THEY

KIND OF PULL, AND THAT

WOULD CAUSE THE SHOULDER

TO HURT.

IT GOT TO WHERE I DIDN'T

WANT TO LIFT MY ARM.

Reporter: YEARS LATER

TOM GOT INSURANCE AND SAW

A DOCTOR.

AN M.R.I. CONFIRMED HE HAD

TORN HIS ROTATOR CUFF.

THE NEXT STEP WAS SURGERY.

UNTIL ONE DAY WHEN THE JOB

WAS RAINED OUT, TOM

DECIDED TO WATCH "THE 700

CLUB."

Gordon: THERE IS

SOMEONE AND YOU'RE ASKING,

PLEASE SAY ROTATOR CUFF.

YOU HAVE A ROTATOR CUFF

INJURY IN YOUR RIGHT

SHOULDER.

THAT KIND OF PEAKED MY

INTEREST.

BUT THEN WHEN HE SAID IT

WAS THE RIGHT SIDE, I

YELLED OUT, YEAH, I'M

CLAIMING IT.

THAT'S MINE, LIKE A LITTLE

KID AFTER CANDY.

AND THEN I DECIDED, IF GOD

HEALED ME, MAYBE I OUGHT

TO JUST RAISE MY ARM AND

PRAISED HIM FOR IT.

I RAISED MY ARM AND I KIND

OF LOOKED OVER AT IT, AND

I COULD HEAR CRUNCH, BUT I

HAD IT UP HIGHER THAN I

EVER HAD IT.

AND I THOUGHT, WOW, NO

MORE PAIN.

IT WAS GONE.

Reporter: FOR THE

FIRST TIME IN OVER 20

YEARS, HE WORKED ALL DAY

WITHOUT SHOULDER PAIN.

AND THANKS TO GOD'S GIFT

OF HEALING, IT HAS NEVER

COME BACK.

IT CHOKES ME UP.

I TELL EVERYBODY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER

THEY'RE A CHRISTIAN OR

NOT.

I TELL THEM, HEY, THIS IS

WHAT GOD DID FOR ME.

Pat: HERE IS WHAT GOD

DID FOR ME.

HERE ARE SOME MORE, AND

THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRAY

FOR YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE.

> REBECCA, WHO LIVED IN

LIBERTY, NORTH CAROLINA,

WOKE UP WITH SCIATIC NERVE

PAIN DOWN HER BACK AND

DOWN HER LEFT LEG.

IT WAS SO BAD SHE COULD

NOT MOVE WITHOUT PAIN.

SHE FEARED IT WOULD KEEP

HER FROM ATTENDING HER

GRANDDAUGHTER'S WEDDING.

ONE DAY REBECCA WAS

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB,"

AND SHE HEARD MY

CO-HOSTESS WENDY SAY,

THERE IS SOMETHING WHO IS

EXPERIENCING SEVERE BACK

PAIN.

REBECCA SAID, THAT'S ME.

AND GUESS WHAT?

TOTAL HEARING.

Wendy: PRAISE THE

LORD.

Pat: DID YOU KNOW

REBECCA?

Wendy: I DID NOT KNOW

REBECCA, BUT I'M SO GLAD.

> HERE IS ONE, ANN HAD

BEEN SUFFERING PAIN IN THE

TENDONS OF HER FEET.

ONE DAY SHE WAS WATCHING

"THE 700 CLUB" WHEN SHE

HERD YOU SAY A WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE, PAT, SAYING

"GOD IS HEALING PAINFUL

TENDONS."

AND SHE CLAIMED THE WORD

AND HAS HAD IN PAIN SINCE

THEN.

Pat: FOLKS, GOD IS

REAL.

ED GOD CREATED EVERYTHING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

ONE WHO CREATED THE SUN,

THE MOON, THE STARS, THE

GALAXIES, THE DISTANT

SPACE -- HE CREATED IT

ALL.

AND HE FORMED MAN ON THIS

EARTH -- MEN AND WOMEN --

AND HE CAN FIX YOU.

SO HEALING IS NOTHING FOR

GOD.

IT IS NOTHING FOR HIM.

ALL HE HAS TO DO IS SPEAK

THE WORD, AND YOUR

SITUATION IS COMPLETELY

REVERSED BECAUSE THAT'S

WHAT HE DOES.

NOW, WENDY AND I ARE GOING

TO JOIN HANDS TOGETHER.

WE'RE GOING TO BELIEVE

GOD.

WE'RE GOING TO BELIEVE GOD

FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY,

I'LL AGREE WITH YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO

ANYTHING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUMP UP

AND MAKE A HAPPY DANCE OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ON A

PILGRIMAGE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO

ANYTHING.

JUST SIT THERE AND RECEIVE

IT.

SO WE'LL JOIN HANDS.

Wendy: THAT'S RIGHT.

Pat: LORD, I AGREE

WITH MY SISTER IN CHRIST.

WE AGREE TOGETHER FOR

THOSE IN THIS AUDIENCE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE

SUFFERING, LORD.

THEY'RE SUFFERING, AND

THEY'VE CRIED OUT TO YOU.

SOMEBODY HAS AN

EXCRUCIATING NECK PAIN.

IT IS LIKE A MUSCLE HAS

POPPED OUT.

PUT YOUR HAND ON IT.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS,

YOU'RE HEALED.

Wendy: THANK YOU,

LORD.

> THE LORD IS HEALING

PEOPLE WITH ALL DIFFERENT

KINDS OF CANCERS RIGHT

NOW.

THERE IS SOMEONE WITH

OVARIAN CANCER.

YOU'RE BEING TOUCHED AND

HEALED RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS SOMEONE WITH

THROAT CANCER, BEING

TOUCHED AND HEALED RIGHT

NOW.

IF YOU HAVE CANCER, JUST

LIFT YOUR ARMS TO JESUS

RIGHT NOW.

HE IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN

CANCER.

WE JUST THANK YOU, LORD,

FOR GIVING PEOPLE THE

FAITH RIGHT NOW THAT THEY

NEED TO RECEIVE IT.

IN JESUS' NAME.

Pat: OH, MAN, YOU

HAVE PROJECTILE VOMITING.

YOU HAVE BEEN SO SICK AND

YOU JUST CRIED TO THE

LORD, HELP ME, LORD.

I BELIEVE IT IS MICHAEL.

MICHAEL, RECEIVE YOUR

HEALING RIGHT NOW IN

JESUS' NAME.

YOU'RE HEALED AND YOUR

STOMACH IS GOING TO BE

NORMAL.

YOU WILL NO LONGER HAVE

THIS NAUSEA.

YOU'RE FREE IN JESUS'

NAME.

> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

I WANT YO US TO PLAY RIGHT

NOW.

WE HAVE A FELLOW EMPLOYEE,

T.J. PEARSON, HE WOULD

LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PRAY

WITH HIM ON THE PROGRAM,

ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.

HE HAS THROAT CANCER.

HE HAS TUMORS.

THE DOCTORS WANTED TO DO

EMERGENCY SURGERY LAST

NIGHT TO REMOVE HIS TOTAL

VOICE BOX AND TUMORS,

MAKING HIM MUTE.

HE ALSO DEVELOPED A BLOOD

CLOT.

HE IS ONE OF OURS.

PLEASE PRAY WITH US FOR

HIM.

Wendy: T.J. PEARSON.

Pat: T.J. PEARSON.

FATHER, FOR THIS DEAR

BROTHER, ONE OF OUR FELLOW

EMPLOYEES, THIS THROAT

CANCER -- LORD, IN THE

NAME OF JESUS, WE COME

AGAINST THIS CANCER.

WE REBUKE IT AND WE

COMMAND IT TO LEAVE.

IT SHALL SHRINK AND HIS

IMMUNE SYSTEM SHALL

FUNCTION IN JESUS' NAME.

TOUCH!

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

Wendy: THANK YOU,

LORD.

Pat: AMEN.

Wendy: AMEN.

Pat: AND AMEN.

WHEREVER YOU ARE, WOULD

YOU PLEASE JUST CALL WHEN

THE LORD HAS DONE

SOMETHING FOR YOU.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR

ABOUT YOU.

1-800-700-7000.

IT IS EASY TO REMEMBER.

JUST CALL IN WITH ANSWERS

TO PRAY, OR IF YOU WANT US

TO PRAY FOR YOU, PEOPLE

ARE HERE TO PRAY.

THEY LOVE YOU AND WILL BE

GLAD TO DO IT.

WENDY?

Wendy: COMING UP,

WE'VE GOT YOUR E-MAIL.

LINDA SAYS, "MY PASTOR

SAYS WE WON'T BE ABLE TO

SEE GOD IN HEAVEN.

IS HE RIGHT?"

ANOTHER ROUND OF YOUR

QUESTIONS AND HONEST

ANSWERS IS NEXT.

SO DON'T GO AWAY.

Wendy: WELCOME BACK.

IT IS TIME FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS AND HONEST

ANSWERS.

LINDA SAYS, "MY PASTOR

SAYS WE WON'T BE ABLE TO

SEE GOD IN HEAVEN, MEANING

GOD'S BEING.

WHAT DO YOU SAY, PAT?

I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED FORWARD

TO SEEING HIM, AND BEING

WITH GOD, MY CREATOR."

Pat: WELL, IF YOU

READ THE BIBLE AND READ

ALL OF IT, IT SAYS, OF

COURSE, THAT NO MAN HAS

EVER SEEN GOD.

THE SON WHO IS IN THE

BOSOM OF THE FATHER HAS

DECLARED HIM.

THAT WAS ON EARTH.

BUT THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS WE

WILL BE LIKE HIM FOR WE

WILL SEE HIM AS HE IS.

THAT MEANS WE'LL BE LIKE

JESUS, AND WE'LL SEE

JESUS.

IF JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF

GOD, THEN WE WILL SEE

JESUS.

THE GLORY OF GOD WILL BE

PRESENT IN HEAVEN.

RIGHT NOW, WHILE WE'RE ON

EARTH, NOBODY HAS SEEN

GOD.

AND YET MOSES WAS IN THE

PRESENCE OF GOD, AND

OTHERS.

SO I THINK TO MAKE A

STATEMENT THAT WE WON'T BE

ABLE TO SEE GOD IN

HEAVEN -- WE WILL BE LIKE

HIM, FOR WE WILL SEE HIM

AS HE IS.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

ABOUT JESUS.

Wendy: CHRISTINE

SAYS, "I NEED HELP.

I'VE BEEN TRYING MY BEST

TO MOVE OUT OF MY

NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS

SO BAD.

ALSO, MY LANDLORD ISN'T

FICTINFIXING THINGS.

IT SEEMS EVERY TIME I HIT

A GOOD STREAK, SOMETHING

BAD HAPPENS AROUND THE

CORNER TO BRING ME DAY.

WHAT CAN I DO?

WHAT CAN I PRAY TO CURE

THIS BAD STREAK?"

Pat: YOU CAN SAY, I

DECLARE VICTORY OVER THIS

NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DECLARE VICTORY OVER

THIS.

MAN WILL EAT GOOD BY THE

VICTORY OF HIS LIPS.

SO STOP DECLARING BAD

THINGS.

YOU MAY HAVE TO SUE YOUR

LANDLORD TO MAKE HIM DO

WHAT HE SHOULD DO.

OR MOVE.

PICK UP AND MOVE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF

NEIGHBORHOODS YOU CAN MOVE

INTO.

Wendy: AMEN.

GEORGE SAYS, "I WAS

LISTENING TO A PREACHER

THE OTHER DAY WHO SAYS

THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE ON

EARTH IN THE BEGINNING

THAN JUST ADAM AND EVE.

HE SAYS IT'S IN THE BIBLE.

IS THAT TRUE?"

Pat: NO, IT'S NOT IN

THE BIBLE.

IT IS ADAM AND EVE.

ADAM WAS THE FIRST MAN.

EVE WAS HIS WIFE.

AND THEY HAD CHILDREN, AND

THEN THE CHILDREN HAD

CHILDREN.

AND THEN THE CHILDREN'S

CHILDREN HAD CHILDREN,

ETC.

AND THE NEXT THING YOU

KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF

PEOPLE LIVING ON EARTH.

BUT THE BIBLE SAYS NOTHING

ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER

PEOPLE BEING ON EARTH AT

THE SAME TIME AS ADAM AND

EVE.

Wendy: I DON'T KNOW

WHAT BIBLE THEY'RE

READING.

[LAUGHTER]

Wendy: SARAH SAYS,

"I'VE BEEN QUESTIONING

GOD'S EXISTENCE FOR A

WHILE AND I REALLY DON'T

KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I FEEL LIKE I KEEP GETTING

MORE AND MORE CONFUSED.

WHAT ABOUT SCIENCE AND

OTHER RELIGIONS?

I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T PRAY

ANYMORE OR STAND UP TO

WORSHIP AT CHURCH."

Pat: AT REGENT

INSTITUTE WE HAVE

INSTITUTED A COURSE CALLED

COSMOLOGY, AND IT IS

TALKING ABOUT THE COSMOS,

AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE

SURE IT IS TAUGHT TO ALL

OF OUR THEATRICAL DI DIVINITY

STUDENTS.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE

UNIVERSE, THERE IS NO WAY

THIS CAME INTO BEING

SPONTANEOUSLY.

THE BIBLE SAYS, I CONSIDER

THE MOON AND THE STARS,

WHICH THOU HAS MADE...WHEN

YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND

HOW VAST THIS IS -- ONE OF

OUR GUYS THAT IS INVOLVED

IN THIS -- I'VE SAID, YOU

KNOW, HOW MANY STARS ARE

THERE?

AND HE SAID THERE ARE A

BILLION TRILLION STARS THE

SIZE OF OUR SUN.

WHERE DID THEY ALL COME

FROM?

WHEN YOU BEGIN TO

UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY OF

THE UNIVERSE AND THE

COSMOS, WHAT YOU DO IS

BEGIN TO WORSHIP GOD.

JUST LOOK AT YOUR OWN BODY

AND SEE THE INTERPLAY OF

THE CELLS AND THE PROCESS

THAT YOU HAVE OF MATURING.

JUST YOUR SEX ORGANS, FOR

HEAVEN SAKE -- IT IS ALL

AMAZINGLY WORKED OUT.

WHEN YOU SEE THAT, YOU

HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD AND

YOU HAVE TO WORSHIP HIM.

Wendy: HERE IS ONE

FROM RONNIE.

HE SAYS, "MY WIFE AND I

HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR

ABOUT 30 YEARS.

NOW, RECENTLY, I

DISCOVERED SHE HAS CHEATED

ON ME WITH MY BROTHER.

NATURALLY, I'M VERY HURT

THAT SHE WOULD DO SUCH A

THING.

BUT SHOULD I MAKE AN

ATTEMPT TO SAVE OUR

MARRIAGE?"

Pat: LOOK, I CAN'T

TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

GOD IS ON THE SIDE OF

RESTORATION.

HE IS ON THE SIDE OF

RESTORATION, NOT

DESTRUCTION.

AND GOD WANTS TO BRING YOU

TOGETHER.

BUT, I'LL TELL YOU, IF

YOU'RE WIFE IS IN A

CHEATING MODE AND SHE

CHEATS WITH YOUR BROTHER,

THAT'S KIND OF GROSS.

IT REALLY IS.

Wendy: IT REALLY IS.

Pat: AND YOU SAY,

SHOULD I TRY TO DO IT?

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HER.

I DON'T KNOW YOU.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR BROTHER.

Wendy: WE NEED TO

KNOW IS THE ADULTEROUS

RELATIONSHIP OVER AND HAS

SHE REPENTED, RIGHT?

Pat: THAT'S FOR

STARTERS, EXACTLY.

OR IS IT SOMETHING SHE DID

10 YEARS AGO -- OF COURSE

YOU CAN FORGIVE HER.

YOU READ ISAIAH, AND GOD

SAID, GO MARRY A

PROSTITUTE, AND GO BACK TO

HER AFTER SHE HAS BEEN

UNFAITHFUL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL

YOU.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU GOD IS

ON THE SIDE OF

RESTORATION.

BUT HE ALSO HAS GIVEN YOU

PERMISSION TO LEAVE UNDER

THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH OUR

POWER MINUTE 1

CORINTHIANS: "NOW THE LORD

IS SPIRIT, AND WHERE THE

SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS,

THERE IS LIBERTY."

THANK YOU.

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