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700 Club Interactive - December 15, 2017

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee and former member of Journey, Jonathan Cain shares about his faith and the blessing of Christmas. Read Transcript


Gordon: HE IS BEST

KNOWN AS THE KEYBOARDIST

AND GUITARIST FOR THE BAND

JOURNEY.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET

THAT PURE, INNOCENT LOVE

FROM CHRIST?

BECAUSE HE IS OUR BRIDGE.

Gordon: JONATHAN CAIN

SHARES WHAT INSPIRED HIS

NEW CHRISTMAS ALBUM.

> PLUS...HE SURVIVED A

CAR ACCIDENT THAT KILLED

HIS BEST FRIEND.

I BLAMED GOD, WHY ME?

WHY NOW?

Gordon: HE THOUGHT HE

DIDN'T DESERVE

FORGIVENESS.

I DESERVED TO GO TO

JAIL.

Gordon: HEAR HOW HE

WENT FROM A LIFE OF

DEPRESSION AND DRUGS TO A

LIFE SET FREE.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> ACTRESS KRISTIN

CHENOWETH SAYS HER

CHRISTIAN FAITH INSPIRED

HER AS SHE VOICED THE

MOUSE IN THE MOVIE "THE

STAR."

ABBEY, THE MOUSE, HAS A

VERY SPECIAL ROLE IN THIS

VERSION OF THE STORY OF

THE BIRTH OF JESUS.

ABBEY IS THE ONE WHO

RUSHES TO TELL THE OTHER

ANIMALS, AFTER SHE

OVERHEARS GABRIEL, THAT

MARY WILL MIRACULOUSLY

GIVE BIRTH TO JESUS.

Terry: SHE SAYS SHE

IDENTIFIES WITH HER LITTLE

CHARACTER, WHO HAS A

UNIQUE VOICE.

THOUGH THE SCRIPTURES

DOESN'T MENTION ANY MICE,

SHE SAYS THERE IS ALWAYS A

MOUSE RUNNING AROUND

SOMEWHERE -- BOY, THAT'S

THE TRUTH.

AUDIENCE OF ALL AGES WILL

RELATE TO "THE STAR."

IT IS ABOUT FRIENDSHIP,

IT IS ABOUT FORGIVENESS,

AND IT IS ABOUT LOVE.

Terry: "THE STAR" HAS

BEEN IN THE TOP 10 AT THE

BOX OFFICE SINCE IT OPENED

THE WEEKEND BEFORE

THANKSGIVING.

AND MY KIDS HAVE SEEN IT

AND MY GRANDKIDS HAVE SEEN

IT, AND EVERYBODY LOVES

IT.

Gordon: AND I'M GLAD

IT IS IN THE TOP 10.

THAT IS A WONDERFUL THINGS THING

AND IT IS A WONDERFUL

CHRISTMAS MESSAGE.

Terry: IT IS.

IT IS A MESSAGE TO PROMOTE

PEACE, BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE

THIS SEASON IS STRIKING A

NERVE.

IT IS NOT ABNORMAL FOR

CONTESTANTS IN THE MISS

UNIVERSE PAGEANT TO SWAP

SELFIES, BUT WHEN TWO

POSTED THEIR SELFIES THEY

GOT MIXED REACTIONS.

MAYBE THAT BECAUSE THEY

ARE MISS IRAQ AND MISS

ISRAEL.

SHE STATED THE PHOTO WAS

NOT TO SHOW SUPPORT OF

ISRAEL BUT WAS AN

EXPRESSION OF HOPE OF

PEACE.

BUT IN ISRAEL, THE PRIME

MINISTER CALLED IT, QUOTE,

"A GREAT MESSAGE OF HOPE

FOR THE REGION."

Gordon: IT IS A GREAT

MESSAGE OF HOPE FOR THE

REGION.

HERE IS A LITTLE HISTORY

FOR YOU.

BACK IN THE 1950s, IF

YOU WERE A ZIONIST IN

IRAQ, AND THAT MEANT IT

WAS OKAY FOR THERE TO BE A

NATION OF ISRAEL, A

HOMELAND FOR THE JEWISH

PEOPLE.

WELL, IF YOU BELIEVED

THAT, JUST MERELY

BELIEVING IT, WELL, YOU

HAD A DEATH SENTENCE

AWAITING FOR YOU.

IT WAS A CAPITAL CRIME TO

EVEN BELIEVE IT, THAT

THERE SHOULD BE A STATE OF

ISRAEL.

SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT

LONGER WAY TO GO BEFORE WE

CAN TRULY HAVE PEACE IN

THE MIDDLE EAST.

BUT THERE IS A PROPHECY.

LOOK IN THE BOOK OF

EZEKIEL.

THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN

ISRAEL WILL BE AT PEACE

WITH ALL OF HER NEIGHBORS.

Terry: A BEGINNING.

Gordon: WELL, A

HEART-WARMING STORY FROM

ARIZONA IS GOING VIRAL.

A SECRET SANTA LEFT A

LOCAL DINER WITH A VERY

SPECIAL GIFT: A TIP MUCH

LARGER THAN USUAL.

THE WAITRESS SAYS IT WAS

NORMAL, A SATURDAY AT THE

FIVE AND DINER, WHERE SHE

HAS WORKED FOR MORE THAN

20 YEARS.

THERE WAS A QUIET CUSTOMER

WHO ORDERED BACON AND EGGS

AND HASHED BROWNS AND

COFFEE AND ORANGE JUICE.

HE PAID HIS $17 BILL AND

SLIPPED QUIETLY OUT OF THE

RESTAURANT.

IT WAS JUST A NORMAL

DAY, NORMAL GUESTS.

WE GO, $200?

OH, NO, IT IS $2,000.

Gordon: THE NOTE ON

THE RECEIPT SAID, "MERRY

CHRISTMAS, PLEASE SPLIT

THIS WITH THE WHOLE

STAFF."

EVERYONE WHO WORKED AT THE

DINER RECEIVED $200, AND

EVERYONE GOT TOGETHER AND

SAID, WE WANT TO GIVE $400

TO THE WAITRESS.

WHAT A SPECIAL HOLIDAY

GIFT.

Terry: HOW WONDERFUL.

AND WONDERFUL THAT SOMEONE

WHO IS ABLE TO DO THAT

TAKES THE INITIATIVE AND

ACTUALLY BLESSES PEOPLE

LIKE THAT.

> IT IS DEFINITELY THE

HOLIDAY SEASON, FILLED

WITH PARTIES AND

GET-TOGETHERS, AND YOU

MIGHT NOTICE YOUR CLOTHES

FITTING A BIT TIGHTER THAN

USUAL.

HERE ARE SOME TIPS TO

AVOID THE ALL TOO COMMON

HOLIDAY WEIGHT GAIN.

Lorie: THOSE

DELICIOUS GOODIES WE LOVE

THIS TIME OF YEAR CARRY A

PRICE.

THE AVERAGE AMERICAN

GAINS ABOUT EIGHT TO

10 POUNDS FROM

THANKSGIVING TO NEW YEAR'S

EVE.

Lorie: IDEALLY COME

JANUARY WE'LL LOSE THEM,

BUT ALL TOO OFTEN THAT

JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

DIETITIAN KELLY FRENO

STARTS WITH STRATEGIES

FROM FOOD-LADEN

GET-TOGETHERS.

MAKE SURE TO CHOOSE

HEALTHY FOODS.

MAKE SURE WE ENJOY LEAN

SOURCES OF MEAT, LIKE

TURKEY, HAM, AND SALMON,

MAKING HALF OF OUR PLATES

NON-STARCHY VEG VALUABLES.

VEGETABLES.

THE BEST WAY TO AVOID

OVERDOING IT AS YOUR

HOLIDAY GATHERING IS TO

EAT SOMETHING HEALTHY AND

FILLING BEFOREHAND, LIKE A

HANDFUL OF NUTS, A

HARD-BOILED EGG OR A

SALAD.

DRINK PLENTY OF WATER

BEFORE AND DURING THE

EVENT.

CAUTIOUS, THOUGH, ON

THE HIGH SUGARY BEVERAGES.

CAREFUL ON THE EGGNOG, AND

WATCH OUT FOR OUR ALCOHOL

INTAKE.

ONE GLASS OF WINE HAS 100

TO 2000 CALORIES AND THEY

ADD UP QUICKLY.

Lorie: MAKE TIME TO

EXERCISE.

IT NOT ONLY BURNS THOSE

EXTRA CALORIES, IT ACTS AS

A STRESS RELIEVER.

IT IS HARD TO EAT HEALTHY

WHEN PEOPLE TWIST YOUR ARM

WITH WORDS LIKE, C'MON, IT

IS THE HOLIDAYS.

OR, I MADE THIS MYSELF

JUST FOR YOU.

BUT DON'T GIVE IN TO PEER

PRESSURE.

HAVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY

NO THANK YOU, OR, THE DISH

LOOKS GREAT BUT I'M FULL.

SO THAT'S WITHOUT BEING

OVER BEARING OR INSULTING.

Lorie: FINALLY, WEIGH

YOURSELF EVERY DAY.

RESEARCH SHOWS THIS

REALITY CHECK HELPS YOU

MIMINIMIZE YOUR WEIGHT GAIN.

LORIE JOHNSON, CBN NEWS.

Terry: THAT WHITE

CHOCOLATE LOOKED PRETTY

GOOD TO ME.

Gordon: I LEAN THE

OTHER WAY.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: WE ALL LEAN

THE OTHER WAY.

Gordon: THESE DAYS

I'M LEANING FORWARD.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: THOSE ARE

SOME HEALTHY TIPS.

AND I HAVE TAKEN THEM ON,

TO TRY TO AVOID THE

SWEETS.

IT IS HARD DURING THE

HOLIDAYS.

Terry: THAT'S JUST A

PART OF THE HOLIDAY.

IF IT DOESN'T HAVE SUGAR

IN IT, IT CAN'T BE

CELEBRATED.

Gordon: IF YOU KNOW

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG

MEAL, MY ADVICE IS SKIP

SOME OTHERS BEFOREHAND,

AND LOOK AT THAT CALORIE

COUNT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T

AVOID IT.

Terry: THAT'S THE

TRUTH.

> YOU PROBABLY KNOW HIM

FROM THE BAND "JOURNEY."

WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE

GOING TO HEAR FROM

JONATHAN CAIN ABOUT WHAT

INSPIRED HIS NEWEST ALBUM.

Terry: LISTEN TO ANY

CLASSIC ROCK STATION IN

THE COUNTRY, AND IT WON'T

BE LONG BEFORE YOU HEAR

THE UNMISTAKABLE RIFFS OF

A SONG FROM "JOURNEY."

THEY REACHED THOSE HEIGHTS

THANKS TO THE HELP OF

MEMBER JONATHAN CAIN.

Andrew: ROCK AND ROLL

HALL-OF-FAMER JONATHAN

CAIN IS BEST KNOWN AS THE

KEYBOARDIST AND GUITARIST

FOR THE BAND "JOURNEY."

HE CO-WROTE THEIR HIT,

"DON'T STOP BELIEVING."

JONATHAN'S DAD TAUGHT HIM

TO PRAY AT AN EARLY AGE.

BUT FOR MANY YEARS

JONATHAN'S FATE TOOK A

BACK SEAT.

ALL THAT CHANGED IN 2013

WHEN HE MET AND THEN

MARRIED PASTOR PAULA

WHITE.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET

THAT PURE, INNOCENT LOVE

FROM CHRIST BECAUSE HE IS

O OUR BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, TO

EVERYTHING.

Andrew: JONATHAN

SHOWCASES HIS SONGS ABOUT

THE UNSPOKEN THINGS OF

CHRISTMAS IN HIS LATEST

C.D. "UNSUNG NOEL."

Terry: PLEASE WELCOME

TO THE SHOW JONATHAN CAIN.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

WITH US TODAY.

IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE.

Terry: YOUR DAD WAS A

BIG INFLUENCE ON YOUR LIFE

BECAUSE OF HIS FAITH, AND

OTHER THINGS.

AND YOU DETERMINED, AS A

YOUNG, YOUNG BOY, THAT YOU

WANTED TO BE A PRIEST.

AND THEN IS TERRIBLE

TRAGEDY HAPPENED.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

1958, DECEMBER 1st,

OUR SCHOOL BURNED DOWN, 20

MINUTES TO 3:00.

I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

CLASSES OUT TO WATCH THE

HORROR THAT WENT ON IN THE

NEXT 20 MINUTES.

AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE

ARSON, AND THE PERSON THAT

SET THE FIRE WAS NOT

CONVICTED.

AND SO IT LEFT -- IT JUST

WAS KIND OF A MESS.

AND WE WERE ALL PRETTY

MUCH IN SHOCK.

Terry: DID YOU TELL

ME 93 KIDS WERE LOST --

93 KIDS AND THREE NUNS

ALSO PERISHED.

Terry: WOW.

WE FELT ABANDONED.

AND ME BEING SUCH A

BELIEVING IN CHRIST, I

SAID SURELY JESUS WOULDN'T

LET THIS HAPPEN NEXT TO

THE HOUSE OF GOD.

AND IT HAPPENED.

AND THEY DIDN'T TEACH US

ABOUT THE ENEMY.

ARCHBISHOP WILLIAMS LOVES

TO SAY, THE ENEMY LOVES TO

PUT EVIL IN WHAT YOU LOVE.

I REALIZE NOW IT WAS TO

SHAKE ME FROM MY FAITH AND

MY RELATIONSHIP WITH

CHRIST.

IT WAS SENT.

Terry: AND FOR A

SEASON, IT DID THAT?

IT DID.

BUT WHAT THE ENEMY LEFT

FOR BAD, GOD MADE FOR GOOD

AND CHANGED THE FIRE

SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR THE

WORLD.

IN ANY FIRE MUSEUM, YOU

WILL SEE PICTURES OF THAT

FIRE.

AND I'M WRITING A BOOK NOW

THAT WILL HAVE A CHAPTER

DEDICATED TO IT.

I WENT BACK FOR THE 50th

RECOMMEMORATIVE AND SANG FOR

THE CARDINAL THERE, AND IT

WAS GOOD CLOSURE.

STILL, IT HAPPENED.

ANYWAY, MY WALK OF FAITH

MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUT ON

HOLD A LITTLE BIT, AND I

WAS JUST KIND OF HIDING

SOMETHING INSIDE, AND IT

CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, IN AN

ALTER CALL.

AND I RECEIVED JESUS.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THERE

IS HOPE FOR ME -- IN A

BAPTIST CHURCH.

AND STILL I HADN'T TOTALLY

SURRENDERED AS A

CHRISTIAN.

WHERE IS THAT PLACE OF

SURRENDER?

IS IT POSSIBLE TO RETURN

TO TRUE SURRENDER AND

BECOME A DISCIPLE OF

CHRIST AGAIN?

Terry: AND IT TOOK A

LITTLE BIT OF TIME, FROM

THE TIME YOU DID THAT

ALTER CALL, TO THE TIME

YOU CAME TO THE PLACE

WHERE YOU SAID, OKAY,

JESUS --

YEAH.

IT WAS PAULA WHITE WHO SAW

ME ON AN AIRLINE,

SOUTHWEST, AND WE WERE

FLYING AND SHE WAS SITTING

ACROSS THE WAY.

AND SHE SAID THAT THE LORD

HAD TOLD HER THAT I NEEDED

TO RETURN.

IT WAS TIME.

Terry: AND SHE DIDN'T

EVEN REALLY KNOW YOUR

STORY?

WELL, I TOLD HER IS

LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRE,

AND SHE SHARED SOME OF HER

TRAGEDY.

WE HAD SIMILAR CRISIS AS

KIDS.

SO MUCH IN COMMON, THAT

WAS AMAZING.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I

HAD A WOMAN REALLY SPEAK

TO MY HEART AND HEAR MY

HEART.

AND WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

I LOOKED HER UP ONLINE --

Terry: AND IT'S HER.

YEAH.

AND SO SHE REALLY

ENCOURAGED ME TO FIND THAT

PLACE OF SURRENDER.

AND GOING BACK TO AFRICA

WITH PAULA AND GETTING

BAPTIZED IN GHANA, I ASKED

THE ARCHBISHOP TO MARRY US

ON PRAYER MOUNTAIN.

WE CELEBRATED OUR THIRD

ANNIVERSARY

DECEMBER 6th.

Terry: HOW EXCITING.

A LOT OF PRAYER.

Terry: SO HOW DOES A

GUY GO FROM KIND OF BEING

SEPARATED BY A TRAGEDY

FROM THE LORD TO WRITING A

SONG LIKE "DON'T STOP

BELIEVING."

WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?

MY FATHER WAS SUCH A

PROPHETIC MEN, AND HE

COVERED ME -- YOU KNOW, A

SPIRITUAL MENTOR.

Terry: THAT'S A

BLESSING.

AND ALL OF THOSE YEARS

THAT I WAS SORT OF NUMB,

HE WAS PRAYING FOR ME, AND

HE PROPHESIED GREATNESS

AND MUSIC OVER ME.

AND WHEN I WAS STRUGGLING

IN HOLLYWOOD WITH

FINANCIAL THINGS, I ASKED

HIM FOR A LOAN -- I ASKED

HIM, SHOULD I COME BACK TO

CHICAGO AND GIVE UP ON

THIS DREAM THING, AND HE

SAID, "DON'T STOP

BELIEVING."

SO I WROTE IT IN MY SPIRAL

NOTEBOOK.

AND I WENT TO SAN

FRANCISCO WHEN THEY ASKED

ME TO JOIN "JOURNEY."

WHICH WAS ALSO A SUPER

NATURAL INTERVENTION TO

BRING THIS KID FROM

CHICAGO ALL THE WAY T TO

"JOURNEY" TO MAKE THE

ALBUM.

I THANK JESUS FOR THAT.

SO I HAD THIS TITLE, JUST

THE TITLE, THAT I HAD

WRITTEN DOWN.

AND STEVE PERRY ASKED ME,

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER

IDEAS?

AND I WENT HOME AND IT

JUMPED OFF THE PAGE AND I

SAID, STEVE WOULD SING

THAT.

SO I BROUGHT IT INTO

REHEARSAL, AND ALL OF THE

GUYS CONTRIBUTED.

IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF

SONG FORMULA THAT BREAKS

THE RULES OF SONGWRITING

BARKS IT IS "A," "B," "A,"

"B," "C," AND THE CHORUS

DOESN'T COME UNTIL THE

END.

BUT WE TRUSTED EACH OTHER

AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER IN

A BROTHERHOOD.

WHEN I BROUGHT THAT SONG

IN, I KNEW IT WOULD BECOME

BIGGER AND BETTER --

ANYTHING THAT I BROUGHT TO

"JOURNEY" ALWAYS TURNED

OUT TO BE FIVE TIMES WHAT

I IMAGINED IT TO BE.

Terry: YEAH.

IT WAS HOLY

SPIRIT-DRIVEN.

SPIRIT-DRIVEN, SO MUCH OF

MY LIFE.

HE HAD HIS HAND ON THE

BAND THE WHOLE TIME --

Terry: AND YOU.

AND HAS A SENSE OF

HUMOR.

YOU'RE GOING TO MARRY THIS

PASTOR.

AND WHEN I MET PAULA, I

THOUGHT MAYBE SHE WAS A

PSYCHIATRIST BECAUSE HER

BOOK WAS "CALLING IN THE

ONE."

AND IT WAS ABOUT

RELATIONSHIPS.

AND SHE SAID, I DO LIFE

COACHING, BUT I'M REALLY A

PASTOR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT MY

PROBLEM HERE, YOU KNOW.

AND SHE ENCOURAGED ME.

THERE WILL BE SOME

REPENTANCE AND SOME

CHANGING.

AND SHE ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT

CIRCUMCISION, AND I ALWAYS

KIND OF SQWIRM, BUT THE

WORD IS IN THE BIBLE, THAT

THAT'S REALLY TO CUT AWAY

WHAT IS NOT OF GOD, NOT OF

CHRIST, OUT OF YOUR LIFE.

Terry: SPEAKING OF

WORDS OF THE BIBLE, THAT'S

REALLY WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO

YOUR LATEST C.D., "THE

UNSUNG NOEL," BECAUSE YOU

REALLY GOT INTO THE WORD

AND FOUND SOME THINGS THAT

HADN'T BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT

AND SUNG ABOUT, WHICH IS

AMAZING.

I KNEW IT WAS THERE,

TERRY.

I KNOW THERE WERE

ELEMENTS, JUST LOOKING

THROUGH SCRIPTURE.

I STUDIED THE MARKET, IF

YOU WILL, AND LOCKSED TO LISTEN THE

TO ALL OF THE SONGS THAT

WERE THERE.

I PUT MY EYES ON PSALM 96:

1, WHICH SAID, "MAKE NEW

MUSIC FOR THE LORD."

AND I THOUGHT AS A WRITER,

I WAS CHALLENGED BY THAT

SCRIPTURE.

Terry: ESPECIALLY FOR

CHRISTMAS.

AND IT REALLY SET OFF

SOMETHING IN MY HEAD,

LIKE, OH, WHO IS REALLY

TIDATOILED OVER NEW MUSIC FOR

CHRISTMAS.

YOU, JOHN.

AND THE HOLY SPIRIT TOLD

ME TO GO DO THIS.

SO I FELT LIKE I WAS ON A

MISSION FOR CHRIST.

THIS SEASON FELT LIKE, LET

ME PUT CHRIST BACK IN

CHRISTMAS.

AND THEN I FOUND THE BILLY

GRAHAM SERMON ONLINE WHERE

HE HAD PREACHED THIS

MESSAGE, THE HEART OF

CHRISTMAS.

AND HE REFERRED THE

SACRIFICE AND THE

SALVATION THAT IS THE

HEART, WHICH IS CHRIST.

AND I WENT, OH, THAT'S IT.

THAT WAS THE CORNERSTONE.

AND WHEN THAT WAS WRITTEN,

EVERYTHING OPENED UP.

Terry: EVERYTHING

FELL INTO PLACE.

AND GOT JUST SAID, LET

ME GIVE YOU THIS WAVE.

I HAD TO WRITE, WRITE,

WRITE.

I'M ON THE ROAD, IN HOTEL

ROOMS, GIVE ME THE QUIET

QUIETEST ROOM YOU'VE GOT.

EVERYBODY WAS LAUGHING

BECAUSE I'M BACK STAGE

WORKING ON ANOTHER ONE.

WHEN I LIFTED MY HEAD,

THERE WERE 10 SONGS.

AND THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO

WANTS THE TRADITIONAL, SO

I PICKED FOUR TRADITIONAL

SONGS.

Terry: THIS NEW ALBUM

IS CALLED "UNSUNG NOEL"

AND IT IS AVAILABLE

WHEREVER MUSIC IS SOLD.

FOR MORE WITH ONE OF THE

MUESNEWEST MEMBERS OF THE ROCK

ANROCKAND ROLL HALL OF FAME,

CHECK OUT

Facebook.com/700club.

AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO

YOU.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU.

Gordon: COMING UP...

I REMEMBER JOSH WAS

LOOKING AT ME AND SAID,

ARE YOU GOING TO LET HER

DO THAT TO YOU?

I NOTICED OUT OF THE

CORNER OF MY EYE A TRUCK

WAS COMING UP.

Gordon: SEE WHAT

Gordon: ERIC AND HIS

BEST FRIEND, JOSH, WERE

INSEPARABLE.

UNTIL THE DAY ERIC TOOK

JOSH UP ON A DARE BEHIND

THE WHEEL OF A CAR.

Andrew: ERIC WAS 17

WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED FOR

THE DEATH OF HIS BEST

FRIEND, JOSH.

YOU KNOW, I BLAMED

MYSELF FOR EVERYTHING.

AND I JUST -- I WOULD HAVE

DONE ANYTHING TO MAKE IT

RIGHT.

Andrew: THE TWO WERE

ALWAYS HANGING OUT.

THEY ESPECIALLY LIKED

PLAYING TOGETHER ON THEIR

HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL

TEAM.

JOSH WAS EXTREMEED

GIFTED. EXTREMELY

GIFTED.

HE WAS MUCH BETTER THAN I

WAS, BUT HE ALWAYS PUSHED

ME.

HE WAS A FUN-LOVING GUY,

HE DIDN'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE

THOUGHT ABOUT HIM.

Andrew: ON A FRIDAY

NIGHT IN SEPTEMBER 1998,

ERIC WAS GIVING JOSH A

RIDE HOME WHEN A GIRL THEY

KNEW PASSED THEM ON A

TWO-LANE ROAD.

I REMEMBER JOSH GOING,

ARE YOU GOING TO LET HER

DO THAT TO YOU?

AND I LOOKED OVER, AND I

NOTICED OUT OF THE CORNER

OF MY EYE THE HEADLIGHTS

OF A TRUCK COMING UP THE

HILL.

I LOOKED OVER AT JOSH, AND

I SAID, ARE YOU OKAY?

AND HE LOOKS AT ME AND

GOES, YEAH, I'M GOING TO

BE FINE.

AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW,

I WOKE UP IN THE

AMBULANCE.

AT THAT POINT IS WHEN I

STARTED TO PRAY, WHICH

I'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

Andrew: ERIC WAS

TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL WITH

A CONCUSSION AND A NUMBER

OF CUTS AND BRUISES.

ERIC ASKED HIS NURSE ABOUT

JOSH.

SHE HAD TEARS IN HER

EYES.

I KNEW AT THAT POINT HE

NEVER MADE IT.

AND I BLAMED GOD FROM

MAYBE AN HOUR AND A HALF

AFTER THE ACCIDENT.

WHY ME?

WHY NOW?

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

THERE TO PROTECT US.

Andrew: AND ERIC ALSO

BLAMED HIMSELF AND

COULDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW

ANYONE COULD FORGIVE HIM.

THE FIRST PEOPLE TO THE

HOSPITAL WHERE HIS MOM AND

HIS GRANDMA.

THEY CAME IN THERE, AND

THEY WERE CRYING.

THEY'D ALREADY FORGIVEN

ME.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT

MEANT AT THAT POINT.

Reporter: DAYS LATER

THEY BURIED HIS FRIEND.

ERIC WAS ARRESTED FOR

NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE.

RELEASED TO HIS PARENTS,

HE SPENT THE NEXT EIGHT

MONTHS IN AND OUT OF

COURT.

DURING ONE APPEARANCE, HIS

MOTHER WROTE A LETTER TO

THE COURT.

I'M THINKING, WHY ARE

YOU DOING THIS?

I DESERVE TO GO TO JAIL.

Andrew: ERIC WAS

GIVEN COMMUNITY SERVICE.

BUT MEMORIES OF JOSH

DOMINATED HIS THOUGHTS.

I WENT FROM DRINKING TO

SMOKING MARIJUANA JUST TO

FORGET ABOUT ALL OF IT.

I REMEMBER SITTING THERE

WITH ONE OF MY STEPDAD'S

GUNS, AND I JUST SAT THERE

AND THOUGHT ABOUT ALL OF

THE PEOPLE I HURT, THE

PROBLEMS I'VE CAUSED, THE

PATH I WAS ON, THE

DRINKING, THE DRUGS.

FOR WHAT?

I DON'T NEED TO BE HERE

ANYMORE.

I JUST NEVER COULD DO IT.

Andrew: OVER THE NEXT

14 YEARS, ERIC CONTINUED

TO STRUGGLE WITH GUILT AND

DEPRESSION.

THE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL

DIDN'T FILL THE VOID LEFT

BY HIS FRIEND.

ON OCCASION, HE WOULD

VISIT JOSH'S GRAVE.

BUT ON A GRAVE SITE VISIT

IN OCTOBER 2014, ERIC'S

THOUGHTS TURNED ELSEWHERE.

I JUST SAT THERE AND

JUST STARTED PRAYING, JUST

ASKING GOD IF THERE IS

ANYTHING LEFT FOR ME TO DO

ON THIS EARTH,POINT ME IN, POINT ME IN

THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

Andrew: ERIC STARTED

READING THE BIBLE AND

GOING TO CHURCH.

AS HE DID, HE DISCOVERED

AN IMPORTANT TRUTH.

I FOUND OUT THERE WAS

PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE THAT

WEREN'T PERFECT, THAT DID

BAD THINGS.

JESUS FORGAVE THEM.

Andrew: ERIC ASKED

FOR AND ACCEPTED GOD'S

FORGIVENESS.

IT WAS SUCH A SURREAL

MOMENT OF, I GAVE IT U ALL

UP, EVERYTHING.

WHEN I TRULY REPENTED AND

GAVE UP EVERYTHING, THE

DRINKING AND THE DRUGS WAS

GONE.

I KNOW WHAT THAT VOID IS.

THE VOID WAS JESUS.

THE VOID WAS CHRIST.

Andrew: AND HE ALSO

FELT THE WEIGHT OF JOSH'S

DEATH WAS FINALLY LIFTED.

THERE WAS A SENSE OF

HOPE.

OTHERS HAVE FORGIVEN ME

FOR WHAT I'VE DONE

ALREADY, THAT I DIDN'T

KNOW.

EVERYTHING CHANGED.

THE WAY I THOUGHT, THE WAY

I FELT, THE WAY I STARTED

TO SEE THINGS -- JUST

CLEAR.

Andrew: IN 2015, ERIC

MARRIED MICHELLE, AND

TODAY THEY HAVE A

BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER.

HE IS THANKFUL FOR THE

FREEDOM OF FORGIVENESS HE

NOW HAS THROUGH JESUS

CHRIST.

IT IS A FEELING OF JUST

PEACE, TO KNOW THAT HE IS

OUR SAVIOR.

TO WAKE UP EVERY MORNING

WITH FORGIVENESS FROM

JESUS, AND THANK HIM EVERY

DAY FOR THAT FORGIVENESS,

THAT'S ALL YOU NEED.

Gordon: HE CAME THAT

WE MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND

HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY.

HE DIDN'T COME TO LORD IT

OVER YOU, TO ACCUSE YOU,

TO POINT THE FINGER AT

YOU, TO TELL YOU WHAT A

HORRIBLE PERSON YOU ARE.

NO.

HE DIDN'T COME FOR THAT.

HE CAME FOR THE SINNERS.

THAT'S WHAT HE CAME FOR.

HE CAME FOR YOU AND ME.

AND THE APOSTLE PAUL PUT

IT SO PERFECTLY SO LONG

AGO.

THAT HE WAS THE CAPTAIN OF

ALL SINNERS.

HERE IS WHAT HE WOULD DO:

HE WOULD DRAG AWAY

CHRISTIANS TO JAIL.

HE WOULD BEAT THE MEN AND

WOMEN.

HE WOULD CONDEMN THEM TO

DEATH.

HE DID IT ALL BECAUSE HE

THOUGHT HE WAS DOING GOD A

FAVOR.

HE THOUGHT HE WAS SHOWING

HOW RIGHTEOUS HE WAS.

BUT THEN HE SAYS SOMETHING

ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

"BUT I OBTAINED MERCY."

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

JESUS SAYS THERE IS NO SIN

THAT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN.

ON THAT DAY, THERE IS NO

SIN THAT CAN'T BE

FORGIVEN.

HE WILL BE ABLE TO CLEANSE

YOU FROM ALL

UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

HE IS ABLE TO PRESENT YOU

SPOTLESS IN HIS PRESENCE,

WITH EXCEEDING JOY.

HE IS ABLE TO DO ALL OF

THESE THINGS BECAUSE HE IS

GOD.

AND HIS MERCY ENDURES

FOREVER.

IT IS NEW EVERY MORNING.

AND HE COMES TO THE

SINNER, THE ONE WHO SAYS,

I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

HE SAYS, LEAVE THAT TO ME.

I'LL MAKE YOU.

I'LL REMAKE YOU.

AND I'LL CLEANSE YOU FROM

THAT.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE LIFE

THAT I INTENDED FOR YOU

ALL ALONG.

NOW, MAYBE YOU'RE

SUFFERING WITH GUILT, WITH

SHAME.

HERE IS THE THING ABOUT

THAT: IT LIKES TO HIDE.

IT LIKES TO DOMINATE YOUR

THOUGHTS.

IT LIKES TO BEAT YOU UP

EVERY DAY, TO TELL YOU HOW

WORTHLESS YOU ARE.

BUT I'VE GOT SOME GREAT

NEWS FOR YOU.

JESUS WILL COME TO YOU.

AND WHAT HE DID FOR ERIC,

WHERE HE RESTORED HIS

LIFE, HE GAVE HIM JOY

AGAIN, HE GAVE HIM A HOPE

AND A FUTURE -- HE WILL DO

THAT FOR YOU IF YOU JUST

ASK.

LET'S DO THAT NOW.

BOW YOUR HEAD AND LET'S

PRAY A VERY SIMPLE PRAYER

AND LET JESUS DO ALL OF

THE REST.

PRAYER WITH ME.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, SAY

HIS NAME, SAY IT OUT LOUD.

JESUS, YOU KNOW THE THINGS

THAT I'VE DONE WRONG.

YOU KNOW THE GUILT THAT I

HAVE.

AND I ASK YOU RIGHT NOW TO

FORGIVE ME AND TO MAKE ME

NEW, AND TO CLEANSE ME.

AND, JESUS, IF YOU'LL DO

THIS, I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU

ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.

HEAR MY PRAYER, FORGIVE ME

NOW, FOR I ASK IT IN

JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

> IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,

GIVE ME A CALL:

1-800-700-7000.

THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY ON

THE OTHER END OF THAT LINE

THAT'S GOT SOMETHING FREE

FOR YOU.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT IS FREE FOR THE ASKING.

> HERE IS A WORD FOR

YOU: "IF WE CONFESS OUR

SINS, HE IS FAITH U FAITHFUL AND

JUST TO FORGIVE US AND TO

CLEANSE US FROM ALL

UNRIGHTEOUSNESS."

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