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700 Club Interactive - February 8, 2018

A football injury leaves a player in massive pain, see how this man got back on the playing field... after four years of unrelenting pain. Read Transcript


IT'S DEVASTATING.

Gordon: A FOOTBALL

PLAYER IS INJURED DURING A

GAME.

I FELT A POP, ALMOST

LIKE A TEAR.

Gordon: SEE HOW HE

WAS HEALED IN AN INSTANT.

I WAS OVERWHELMED WITH

JOY AND JUST THE LOVE OF

GOD.

Gordon:

PLUS...CHURCHES ACROSS THE

NATION ARE BEEFING UP

SECURITY.

CHURCHES ARE

INCREASINGLY TARGETS NOW.

Gordon: SEE HOW

THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP

THEIR FLOCKS SAFE.

ALL ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

HERE IS EFREM GRAHAM WITH

THIS WEEK'S TOP FIVE

STORIES FROM "STUDIO 5."

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...THE PHILADELPHIA

EAGLES WIN THEIR VERY

FIRST SUPER BOWL, AND GOD

GETS THE GLORY.

I CAN ONLY GIVE THE

PRAISE TO MY LORD AND

SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, FOR

GIVING ME THIS

OPPORTUNITY.

I'VE GOT THE BEST PLAYERS

AND THE WORLD.

Efrem: THE EAGLES

BEAT THE NEW ENGLAND

PATRIOTS 41 TO 33 IN

MINNEAPOLIS ON SUNDAY.

> AT NUMBER FOUR...THE

SECOND COMING OF JIM

CAVIEZEL AS JESUS GETS A

LITTLE CLOSER.

YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FILM

COMING UP, I HEAR, CALLED

"THE RESURRECTION," AND

IT'S A SEQUEL TO "THE

PASSION OF THE CHRIST."

IS THAT TRUE?

IT IS PROBABLY A COUPLE

YEARS OUT BECAUSE IT'S A

BIG SEQUEL.

Efrem: JIM CAVIEZEL

IS IN TALKS TO RESURRECT

HIS ROLE AS CHRIST.

"THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST

CRONOLOGCHRIST" CHRONICLED THE 12

DAYS BEFORE JESUS CHRIST'S

CRUCIFIXION.

> AT NUMBER THREE...HAVE

YOU ALWAYS BEEN A

BASKETBALL FAN?

NO.

OH, GOSH, NOT AT ALL.

I COME FROM A VERY ARTSY

FAMILY.

Efrem: HIS SETH

CURRIE ANNOUNCED ON

INSTAGRAM THAT SHE AND HER

BASKETBALL STAR HUSBAND

ARE EXPECTING THEIR THIRD

CHILD.

CURRIE WROTE: HEY, HOW

DID THIS HAPPEN?

FEELING VERY BLESSED AND

VERY SICK.

YIPPEE.

THE ONLY SORT OF

INTRODUCTION TO SPORTS I

HAD BEFORE MEETING BY

HUSBAND WAS BUFFALO BILLS'

FOOTBALL AND DOUG FLUTIE.

MY DAD GREW UP IN BUFFALO

AND HAS BEEN A BILLS' FAN

ALL HIS LIFE.

Efrem: AT NUMBER

TWO...WINTER JAM IS UNDER

WAY, AND "STUDIO 5" IS

BACK STAGE WITH THIS

YEAR'S PERFORMERS,

INCLUDING JOHN CRIST, THE

VERY FIRST COMEDIAN TO

JOIN THE TOUR.

> WHAT MADE YOU SAY YES?

I'VE WORKED WITH THIS

MUSICIANS BEFORE AT

CONFERENCES, BUT IT WAS

JUST THE VENUES WERE SO

BI, IBIG, IT WAS LIKE A

DIFFERENT MUSCLE TO WORK.

IT IS LIKE IF YOU WORKED

AT A COMEDY CLUB IN FRONT

OF 200 OR 300 PEOPLE, AND

NOW THEY'RE PUTTING YOU IN

FRONT OF 12,000 OR 13,000.

WE BEGIN WITH BREAKING

NEWS, THREE AMERICANS ARE

HEROS FOR FOILING AN

ATTACK ON A TRAIN IN

PARIS.

Efrem: THE THREE MAKE

HEADLINES AROUND THE WORLD

ON AUGUST 21st, 2015.

THEIR HEROIC STORY IS NOW

A FEATURE FILM, "15:17 TO

PARIS."

CLINT EASTWOOD DIRECTS IT.

I WAS GOING THROUGH THE

REGULAR CASTING THING, AND

I WAS LOOKING AT A LOT OF

ACTORS, AND GOOD ACTORS,

TOO, AND THEY WOULD HAVE

DONE A GOOD JOB, BUT I

KEPT LOOKING AT THE GUYS.

AND I KEPT LOOKING AT

THEIR FACES, AND GOING

OVER THIS, AND FINALLY ONE

DAY I JUST SAID, DO YOU

GUYS THINK YOU CAN PLAY

YOURSELVES?

Efrem: TAKE ME BACK

TO WHEN HE DOES ASK.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WHEN

HE SAYS, COULD YOU PLAY

YOURSELF?

WE JUST COULDN'T SAY

NO.

WE SAID YES RIGHT AWAY.

AND WHEN HE LEFT THE ROOM,

WE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER

SAYING, CAN WE DO THIS?

WE DIDN'T WANT TO RISK

THE FILM.

IT WAS CRAZY, ALMOST.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

EFREM IS WITH US NOW, AND

WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT

THE EAGLES.

FLY, EAGLES, FLY!

Efrem: FLY, EAGLES,

FLY.

I' Gordon: I'M NOT

SUPPOSED TO ROOT FOR THE

EAGLES BECAUSE I'M A

REDSKINS' FAN.

BUT, GO EAGLES.

Efrem: YOU HEARD THE THE

COACH SAYING, I GIVE ALL

OF THE GLORY TO GOD.

AND NINE YEARS AGO, YOU

WERE A HIGH SCHOOL

FOOTBALL COACH, AND HE

SAYS HE GIVES ALL OF THE

CREDIT AND GLORY TO GOD.

Gordon: BY ALL

ACCOUNTS, BILL BELICHICK

WILL GO DOWN AS THE BEST

COACH EVER, WITH A LARGE

NUMBER OF SUPER BOWL

RINGS --

Efrem: HE DOES.

Gordon: SO YOU GO,

OKAY, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

IT WAS A PRETTY AMAZING

GAME.

IT WAS ONE OF THE MORE

EXCITING SUPER BOWLS,

ALTHOUGH LAST YEARS' WAS A

LITTLE TOUGH TO BEAT.

Efrem: I WAS A LITTLE

DISAPPOINTED LAST YEAR.

Gordon: OH, YOU MUST

HAVE BEEN IN PAIN.

WHAT'S WITH THE EAGLES,

IT'S LIKE THEY'RE HAVING

BAPTISMS IN THE TRAINING

ROOM AND THEY'RE HAVING

BIBLE STUDIES.

NICK FOLES WANTS TO BECOME

A PASTOR.

Efrem: THEY HAVE

BONDED IN FAITH ALL

BECAUSE THEY'RE HOLDING

EACH OTHER UP.

THERE WERE BAPTISMS THERE

AND BIBLE STUDIES, AND IT

HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A

LITTLE WHILE FOR THEM, SO

IT IS NICE TO SEE THIS ALL

PLAY OUT FOR THEM.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

Gordon: SPEAKING OF

CHRISTIANITY, WE HAVE A

SEQUEL TO "THE PASSION OF

THE CHRIST."

JIM CAVIEZEL IS SAYING IT

WILL BE THE BEST MOVIE

EVER.

Efrem: YES.

Gordon: WHAT DO YOU

THINK?

THAT'S A TOUGH THING.

Efrem: IN LIGHT OF

HOW WELL "THE PASSION"

DID -- IT MADE MORE THAN

$600 MILLION -- THAT'S A

REALLY TOUGH ACT TO

FOLLOW.

"THE PASSION OF THE

CHRIST" IS A FILM THAT I

LOVED, AND ABSOLUTELY

ENJOYED, BUT I COULD ONLY

SEE IT ONCE.

Gordon: I WAS GOING

TO SAY, DID YOU ENJOY IT?

Efrem: I LOVED THE

STORY.

Gordon: IT WAS

GRIPPING.

Efrem: I COULD ONLY

WATCH IT ONCE.

I COULD NOT DO IT AGAIN.

Gordon: I SAW IT

THREE TIMES IN THEATERS.

Efrem: I HAVE THE

D.V.D.

IT'S UNOPENED IN MY

LIBRARY AT HOME.

AT SOME POINT I'LL BE ABLE

TO WATCH IT AGAIN,

PRAYERFULLY, BUT I

COULDN'T AFTER THAT.

I SAY IT IS A TOUGH ACT TO

FOLLOW.

HE IS PROMISING IT IS

GOING TO BE THE BEST FILM

EVER.

THAT COMES FROM JIM

CAVIEZEL.

MEL GIBSON SAYS IT IS

STILL ABOUT THREE YEARS

OFF.

THEY'RE BEING VERY

TIGHT-LIPPED ABOUT THE

SHOOTING SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE JUST NOT SAYING --

THEY WON'T REVEAL

ANYTHING.

Gordon: I WANT THEM

TO REVEAL IT.

I WANT TO SEE HOW

THEOLOGICAL THEY'RE GOING

TO DEAL WITH SATURDAY?

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH

SATURDAY?

Efrem: THAT'S GOING

TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE

UNFOLD.

I'LL BE WATCHING.

I'LL CERTAINLY BE IN THE

THEATER WHEN IT IS

RELEASED, BUT HARD TO TOP

"THE PASSION OF THE

CHRIST."

Gordon: IT IS ONE OF

THOSE FEW MOVIES WHERE YOU

DON'T EVEN HAVE TO

ADVERTISE IT.

JUST TELL ME WHERE IT IS

PLAYING, AND I'LL GO.

Efrem: WE COULDN'T

EVEN GET A SEAT IN THE

THEATERS WHEN IT WAS OUT.

Gordon: ANOTHER MOVIE

COMING OUT, GREAT CASTING

DECISION BY CLINT

EASTWOOD, TO CAST THE

HEROS.

Efrem: TO CAST THE

ACTUAL HEROS TO PLAY

THEMSELVES IN "15:17 TO

PARIS."

YOU LOVE THEIR FRIENDSHIP,

AND TALKING TO THEM BEING

DIRECTED BY DLINT EAST CLINT

EASTWOOD, IT WAS NICE TO

HEAR.

THEY SAID IT WAS A LITTLE

AWKWARD IN THE BEGINNING

BECAUSE YOU HEAR ABOUT THE

LEGACY OF CLINT EASTWOOD

ABOUT THE DIRECTOR, AND

YOU KEEP LOOKING UP FOR A

NOD THAT'S GOOD, BUT YOU

DON'T GET ANYTHING.

AND THEY REALIZE, HE IS A

DIRECTOR OF FEW WORDS.

AND THE VERY FACT HE SAYS,

WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT

SCENE, HE GOT WHAT HE

NEEDED.

Gordon: HE IS THE

SILENT DIRECTOR.

Efrem: HE PRODUCES

GREAT, GREAT FILMS.

AND THE ACTING BUG HAS BIT

THOSE THREE.

THEY'RE NOW HOPING THEIR

FUTURE WILL BE IN ACTING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL ME.

I SAID, WHAT'S NEXT?

AND THEY TOLD ME, WE

HOPING THIS IS LAYING THE

GROUND WORKS FOR ACTING

CAREERS FOR ALL THREE OF

THEM.

Gordon: OH, NO,

THEY'VE GONE HOLLYWOOD.

THE BUG.

Efrem: AND THEY CAN

SAY THEIR VERY FIRST

DIRECTOR IS CLINT

EASTWOOD.

Gordon: OKAY.

WINTERWINTER JAM, WHAT'S COMING

UP?

Efrem: IT IS THE

LARGEST CHRISTIAN CONCERT

EVER.

JOHN CRIST IS THE FIRST

COMEDIAN TO EVER TRAVEL

WITH THIS GROUP.

THEY'RE IN NASHVILLE,

OHIO, INDIANAPOLIS AND

DETROIT FOR THE NEXT FEW

DAYS.

BEAUTIFUL.

BEAUTIFUL.

IT IS A WONDERFUL WORSHIP

EXPERIENCE.

THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT

THIS IS NEW SONG STARTED

IT, AND THEIR GOAL WAS TO

MAKE CONCERTS LIKE THESE

AFFORDABLE.

SO THE HIGHEST-PRICED

TICKET IS $15.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE

YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

THAT'S THE HIGHEST-PRICED

TICKET, TO KEEP IT

AFFORDABLE FOR FAMILIES.

AND IT ONLY JUST WENT UP

TO THAT THIS YEAR.

THAT WAS THE GOAL, SO YOU

COULD PACK IN AN ARENA,

AND YOU COULD SEE ACTS

THAT WOULD NORMALLY

COMMAND A WHOLE LOT MORE.

AND THESE ARE ALL ACTS

THAT COULD COMMAND A FORUM

ALL OF THEIR OWN, BUT

THEY'RE COMING TOGETHER.

THEY INVITED ME TO COME

AND TRAVEL WITH THEM ON

THE BUS FOR A COUPLE OF

CITIES.

I'M SURE THAT'S O ON YOUR

BUCKET LIST.

I'LL GET A BUNK ON THE BUS

AND I'LL GET TO TRAVEL FOR

A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND THEN

I'VE GOT TO GET OFF, FOR

SURE.

Gordon: DO THEY HAVE

A SHOWER ON THE BUS?

YUP.

IT'S ALL THERE.

Gordon: THAT IS GOING

TO BE TOGETHERNESS.

BUILDING 429, AND NICK

HALL, WE'RE GOING TO DO

IT.

Gordon: ARE YOU GOING

TO GO LIVE WITH THAT?

Efrem: I DON'T KNOW

ABOUT THAT.

IT WILL BE KIND OF ROUGH.

Gordon: REALITY TV,

EFREM ON THE BUS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE

GREAT.

ARE YOWANT ME TO SEND A CREW

WITH YOU?

Efrem: MAYBE ONE

SMALL CAMERA.

Gordon: FOR ALL OF

THE LATEST IN

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY NEWS,

CHECK OUT EFREM'S "STUDIO

5."

EFREM WILL BE BACK HERE

NEXT WEEK.

Efrem: INDEED I WILL.

Gordon: UP NEXT, A

FOOTBALL INJURY LEAVES A

PLAYER IN MASSIVE PAIN.

IT WAS DEVASTATING.

I HAD NEVER EXPERIENCED

PAIN LIKE I DID AT THAT

MOMENT.

Gordon: SEE HOW THIS

MAN GOT BACK ON THE

PLAYING FIELD AFTER YEARS

OF UNRELENTING PAIN.

> PLUS, WE'LL BE PRAYING

FOR YOU AND YOUR NEEDS

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Gordon: AFTER A

FOOTBALL INJURY, DOMINIC

ENDURED FOUR YEARS OF

EXCRUCIATING PAIN.

HIS DOCTORS COULDN'T HELP

HIM.

BUT ONE MORNING DOMINIC

WAS INSTANTLY HEALED,

RIGHT IN HIS OWN HOME.

Reporter: AS A

FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL,

DOMINIC BARBARUOLO WAS A

DEFENSIVE END ON HIS

FOOTBALL TEAM.

I WAS RUNNING, AND OUT

OF NOWHERE, THE DEFENSIVE

TACKLE HIT ME AND I WAS

FALLING AND TWISTED MY

KNEE, AND HE FELL ON TOP

OF ME.

I FELT LIKE A POP, AND

ALMOST LIKE A TEAR.

I GOT UP AND I WAS

LIMPING, BUT I WAS, LIKE,

I'M GOING TO STAY IN.

AND THE NEXT PLAY, WHEN I

CUT TO GO TOWARDS THE

RUNNINGBACK, MY KNEE GAVE

OUT.

I NEVER EXPERIENCED PAIN

LIKE I DID AT THAT MOMENT.

Reporter: THE

EXCRUCIATING PAIN WOULD

NOT GO AWAY.

HE WENT TO SEVERAL

DOCTORS, BUT M.R.I.s AND

CAT SCANS DIDN'T REVEAL

ANY TEARS OR ANYTHING THAT

COULD BE CAUSING THE PAIN.

IT WAS DEVASTATING,

KNOWING THAT THE DOCTORS

COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING

WRONG, AND YOU KNOW YOU

HAVE THIS PAIN EVERY DAY.

IT WOULD HURT WHEN I GOT

UP, AND I WOULD SORT OF

WALK AND YOU KIND OF HAD

THAT PAIN WHERE YOU TRIED

NOT TO PUT PRESSURE ON IT.

YOU KIND OF FLINCH.

Reporter: HE NEVER

WENT BACK TO PLAYING

FOOTBALL AS HE ENDURED THE

PAIN FOR NEARLY FOUR

YEARS.

THEN ONE MORNING HE WAS

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

I WENT OUT THERE JUST

IN TIME FOR THE WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE.

Gordon: THERE IS

SOMEONE ELSE WITH A SPRAIN

IN YOUR RIGHT KNEE, AND

GOD HAS HEARD YOUR PRAYER,

AND HE IS TAKING AWAY THAT

PAIN AND THAT NUMBNESS,

AND HE IS JUST RESTORING

THE JOINT TO WHAT IT

ORIGINALLY WAS.

HE IS HEALING IT NOW IN

JESUS' NAME.

I CLAIMED THAT WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE, AND I WAS ABLE

TO GET UP AND HOP ON MY

RIGHT LEG, UP AND DOWN,

WITHOUT ANY PAIN.

AND I WAS HARDLY ABLE TO

WALK ON IT EARILER.

I WAS OVERWHELMED WITH JOY

AND JUST THE LOVE OF GOD.

I'M NOW ABLE TO PLAY,

LIKE, CHURCH FLAG FOOTBALL

NOW.

I'M ABLE TO RUN.

I'M ABLE TO WORK OUT.

I'M ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING

I USED TO BE ABLE TO DO.

I CAN GO ON HIKES.

I CAN GO ON LONG WALKS.

I CAN RUN.

Reporter: THOSE HIGH

SCHOOL DAYS ARE BEHIND HIM

NOW.

TODAY DOMINIC AND HIS

WIFE, RACHEL, LOVE

SPENDING TIME WITH THEIR

LITTLE GIRL, ISABELLA.

I AM ABLE TO RUN AROUND

WITH MY DAUGHTER AND HAVE

FUN.

AND I'M ABLE TO GO OUT TO

THE MOUNTAINS AND DO A LOT

OF SHOOTING WITH FRIENDS

AND FAMILY.

Reporter: AND DOMINIC

LOVES TO SHARE WHAT GOD

DID FOR HIM, AND WHAT HE

CAN DO FOR OTHERS.

HE CAN HEAL.

THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE

GOD CAN HEAL, TRUST HIM.

PUT YOUR TRUST IN HIM.

CHALLENGE GOD.

I WANT A HEALING.

AND HE'LL COME THROUGH.

Gordon: YOU DON'T

HAVE TO CHALLENGE HIM.

HE WANTS TO HEAL YOU.

HE LOVES YOU INFINITELY.

SO MUCH THAT HE WAS

WILLING TO DIE FOR YOU.

AND WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND

THAT, FAITH GETS VERY

EASY.

AND BELIEF GETS VERY EASY.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED

TO HAVE HEALING.

WELL, WE WANT TO PRAY FOR

YOU.

AND WE HAVE SOME PRAYER

REQUESTS.

MICHELLE WRITES IN: "I

HAVE GONE THROUGH SURGERY

FOR MY KIDNEYS AND

BLADDER, BUT I STILL HAVE

PAIN.

I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE

DOCTOR AGAIN AS I'M IN

DEBT DUE TO OTHER

SURGERIES.

PLEASE PRAY FOR TOTAL AND

COMPLETE HEALING OF MY

BODY AND PROVISION TO PAY

THE HOSPITAL BILLS."

THEN MARICEL WRITES IN:

"PLEASE PRAY FOR MY

FAMILY, ESPECIALLY MY

CHILD WITH DOWN SYNDROME,

WHO ALSO HAD CONGENITAL

HEART DISEASE."

AND MARILYN SAYS, "I HAVE

STAGE FOUR CANCER.

PRAY FOR GOD TO HEAL ME

AND FOR STRENGTH AS I

ENDURE TREATMENT."

LET'S LIFT THESE NEEDS TO

THE LORD.

AND IF YOU HAVE A NEED,

LET'S PRAY FOR YOU AS WELL

AND REALIZE THAT GOD WANTS

TO ANSWER PRAYER.

HE WANTS TO PROVIDE FOR

HIS CHILDREN.

HE IS LOOKING FOR THAT.

HIS EYES GO TO AND FRO

OVER THE WHOLE EARTH TO

SHOW HIMSELF STRONG.

SO LET HIM DO THAT FOR YOU

AND LET'S BELIEVE.

LORD, WE JUST LIFT THESE

NEEDS TO YOU.

THE ONES WHO HAVE WRITTEN

IN ON THE Facebook PAGE,

THE ONES WHO ARE WATCHING

RIGHT NOW AND PRAYING FOR

MIRACLES.

WE JUST ASK FOR THEM,

STRETCH FORTH YOUR HAND TO

DO MIRACLES.

MIRACLES, TO DO

WONDERS, TO PROVIDE

HEALING, TO HAVE FINANCIAL

NEEDS MET, TO PLACE PEOPLE

IN FAMILIES, TO SURROUND

THEM WITH LOVED ONES AND

YOUR LOVE.

LORD GOD, DO THAT TODAY.

AND, LORD, LET'S PRAY FOR

THE ONE RIGHT NOW WHO HAS

PAIN LEFT OVER FROM

SURGERY ON HER KIDNEYS AND

BLADDER.

WE JUST ASK FOR COMPLETE

MIRACLE HEALING.

THAT ALL OF THAT PAIN,

EVERYTHING THAT IS

RESIDUAL FROM THE

OPERATION WOULD LEAVE HER.

AND WE ASK FOR PROVISION,

THAT HER HOSPITAL BILLS

WOULD BE CLEARED, THAT

THERE WOULD BE NO MORE

DEBT.

BE WITH HER.

AND FOR THE ONE WHO HAS

DOWN SYNDROME AND HEART

PROBLEMS, LORD, JUST SEND

CLARITY OF THOUGHT NOW.

WE JUST REJOICE IN THE

MIRACLE YOU'RE DOING.

WE REJOICE IN THE MIRACLE

OVER THE HEART, AND ASK

FOR HEALING FOR THAT NOW.

AND FOR THIS ONE WITH

STAGE FOUR CANCER, LORD

GOD, HEAL.

STRETCH FORTH YOUR HAND.

YOU NUMBER THE VERY HAIRS

ON OUR HEAD, AND SO YOU

NUMBER EVERY CANCER CELL.

AND WE JUST ASK NOW THAT

THAT NUMBER WOULD BE

REDUCED TO ZERO.

AND THERE WOULD BE NO MORE

CANCER IN HER BODY NOW.

WE BELIEVE IT.

WE BELIEVE IN THE

SACRIFICE.

WE BELIEVE IN THE CROSS.

WE BELIEVE IN YOUR LOVE.

WE THANK YOU FOR IT.

IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

IF YOU NEED PRAYER, WE'RE

HERE FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO

TO THE PHONE AND CALL US:

1-800-700-7000.

AND YOU CAN ALSO GO TO OUR

Facebook PAGE.

IT IS REAL EASY.

JUST TYPE "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE" INTO

Facebook, AND IT WILL

COME UP, AND YOU CAN POST

YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS AND

GET A WHOLE COMMUNITY

PRAYING FOR YOU.

DO IT EITHER WAY.

CALL US: 1-800-700-7000.

> STILL TO COME, ARMED

GUARDS, ACTOR SHOOTER

PLANS, AND CONCEALED

WEAPONS.

ALL OF THAT COULD BE

COMING TO YOUR HOUSE OF

WORSHIP.

IT IS TRAGIC THAT

CHURCHES THAT ARE SUPPOSED

TO BE OUR SANCTUARIES ARE

NOW SO DANGEROUS THAT WE

NEED TO HAVE SECURITY

TEAMS, SOMETIMES ARMED.

Gordon: THE NEW LAW

THAT COULD HAVE YOUR

CHURCH UP IN ARMS.

Gordon: THE MASS

SHOOTING AT A SMALL TEXAS

CHURCH LATE LAST YEAR HAS,

ONCE AGAIN, BROUGHT UP THE

DEBATE OVER CHURCH

SECURITY.

SO THE QUESTION IS:

WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO

PROTECT CHURCHES IN

TODAY'S VIOLENT CULTURE?

CBN'S MARK MARTIN SPOKE

WITH A TEXAS LAWMAKER WHO

IS THE PUSHING A NEW LAW

THAT ALLOWS CHURCH

VOLUNTEERS TO BECOME

SECURITY GUARDS.

Mark: GOING TO CHURCH

IS SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE, A

LITERAL SANCTUARY, WHERE

PEOPLE MEET GOD AND FIND

PEACE IN A TROUBLED WORLD.

THAT TRANQUIL IMAGE HAS

TAKEN A BEATING AFTER

SEVERAL SHOOTINGS,

INCLUDING THE ONE AT

MOTHER EMMANUEL EPISCOPAL

CHURCH, WHERE NINE PEOPLE

LOST THEIR LIVES DURING A

BIBLE STUDY.

THESE ARE ALL FINE

PEOPLE.

Mark: IN THE

SEPTEMBER SHOOTING LAST

YEAR NEAR NASHVILLE,

TENNESSEE, WHERE A GUNMAN

TOOK THE LIFE OF ONE

PERSON AND INJURED MORE

THAN HALF A DOZEN.

AND EVEN MORE RECENTLY AT

FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IN

SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, TEXAS.

IN NOVEMBER, A GUNMAN

WALKED AMONG THE PEWS,

KILLING 26 PEOPLE, RANGING

IN AGE FROM 18 MONTHS TO

77 YEARS OLD.

THE TEXAS-BASED SECURITY

ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS

"SHEEP DOG SEMINARS,"

REPORTS 1400 VIOLENT

DEATHS THAT HAPPENED ON

FAITH-BASED PROPERTY

NATIONWIDE IN 2017.

SO HOW SHOULD CHURCHES

PROTECT THEMSELVES?

THE STATE OF TEXAS

RECENTLY PASSED A LAW THAT

ALLOWS THEM TO USE

VOLUNTEERS AS SECURITY

GUARDS.

THE LAW WENT INTO AFFECT

IN SEPTEMBER.

TEXAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE

MAT RENAULDI SPONSORED THE

LAW.

IT IS TRAGIC THAT

CHURCHES, THAT ARE

SUPPOSED TO BE OUR

SANCTUARIES, AND NOW

TARGETED IN TODAY'S

CULTURE, UNFORTUNATELY.

Reporter: HE BLAMES

TEXAS LOBBYISTS FOR A

PREVIOUS LAW.

THE PROBLEM WITH TEXAS

LAW WAS WE ACTUALLY PASSED

AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING

LAW, PROHIBITING CHURCHES

FROM DOING SECURITY

FUNCTIONS, UNLESS THEY

PAID SOMEBODY WHO IS

LICENSED TO DO IT.

IT WAS SENSELESS, AND I

THINK A LOT OF CHURCHES IN

THE STATE OF TEXAS WERE

VIOLATING THE LAW

UNKNOWINGLY.

Efrem THE STATE HAS REVOKED

THE LAW.

IF YOU HAVE A SMALL

CHURCH THAT CAN'T AFFORD

PRIVATE SECURITY, YOU

SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND

YOURSELF.

Reporter: IN ADDITION

TO USING VOLUNTEERS AS

SECURITY, THE LAW ALLOWS

CHURCHES TO SET UP ACTIVE

SHOOTER PLANS, PATROL

THEIR CAMPUSES, AND TRAIN

CONCEALED GUN HOLDERS.

WHAT THIS LAW ALLOWS IS

THE CHURCHES TO COORDINATE

TRAINING FOR THESE

INDIVIDUALS, WHERE IT WAS

PREVIOUSLY PROHIBITED.

SO WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO

BE TRAINED, WHICH IS VERY

IMPORTANT.

Reporter: BUT NOT

EVERYONE BELIEVERS TH BELIEVES THE BEST

WAY IS THIS LEGISLATION.

MAYBE SOME CHURCHES ARE

BETTER EQUIPPED TO HAVE

ACCESS TO TRAINED LAY

SECURITY THAN OTHER

PLACES.

AND THAT WOULD BE A

DIFFERENT FACTOR.

BUT THERE IS NO TRAINING

REQUIRED?

THERE IS NO LEVEL OF SKILL

REQUIRED.

MY UNDERSTANDING, THE WAY

THE LAW IS WRITTEN NOW,

ANYONE CAN BE THAT.

Reporter: NEWS

REPORTS SPARKED

CONTROVERSY, POINTING OUT

THAT THE LAW DID THE NOT

REQUIRE CHURCH VOLUNTEERS

TO UNDERGO THE LICENSING,

TRAINING, AND BACKGROUND

CHECKS REQUIRED OF

PROFESSIONAL SECURITY

OFFICERS.

CRITICS EXPRESSED CONCERN

INEXPERIENCED VOLUNTEERS

WOULD SUDDENLY FACE

LIFE-THREATENING

SITUATIONS.

BUT THE REALITY IS MOST

PEOPLE WHO HAVE A

CONCEALED LICENSE IN THE

STATE OF TEXAS HAVE NOT

SHOT THEIR WEAPON,

CERTAINLY NOT IN A

DEFENSIVE MODE.

SO THEY HAVE NO

EXPERIENCE.

SO THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT

FROM HAVING AN OFF-DUTY

OFFICER OR SOMEONE WHO IS

EX-MILITARY.

Reporter: WINGFIELD

HELPS PASTOR A LARGE

CHURCH WITH PROFESSIONAL

SECURITY GUARDS.

HE SAYS SOME VOLUNTEERS

ALSO PROVIDE SOME

SECURITY, AND ADMITS THERE

IS SOME GOOD TO THE NEW

LAW.

I THINK IN SOME CASES

IT WOULD WORK.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT

WOULD NEVER WORK.

I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL

CHURCHES WOULD BE

DISCERNING ABOUT HOW THEY

DO THAT.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO

ARE VERY WISE AND

EXPERIENCED GUN OWNERS AND

USERS.

AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE

WHO ARE NOVICES.

Reporter: STATE

REPRESENTATIVE RENAULDI

SAYS SOME IS BETTER THAN

NONE.

I WOULD SAY IT IS

BETTER TO HAVE SOME

INDIVIDUALS PROVIDING

SECURITY THAN NOT.

ESPECIALLY IN AN ARMED

SITUATION.

IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE LAWS

ON WHO COULD ENTER A

CHURCH WITH A HANDGUN.

WHAT IT DID WAS CHANGE THE

LAW SO THE CHURCHES CAN

TRAIN THE INDIVIDUALS MORE

SAFELY.

Reporter: HE NOW

ADVISES CONGREGATIONS TO

TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.

THE LAW IS IN PLACE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE CHURCHES

TO TAKE NOTE OF IT AND TO

COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW

TO DEAL WITH THESE

SITUATIONS.

Reporter: MARK

MARTIN, CBN'S, DALLAS.

Gordon: WELL, THE

VERSE THAT KEEPS COMING

BACK TO ME ON THESE

SHOOTINGS, AND WHETHER IT

IS SCHOOL SHOOTINGS OR

CHURCH SHOOTINGS, WHEN

THAT WHICH RESTRAINS IS

TAKEN AWAY -- WHAT HAS

HAPPENED TO OUR CULTURE?

WHERE PLACES THAT USED TO

BE PLACES OF TRUST AND

SAFETY ARE NOW CONSIDERED

DANGEROUS AREAS.

WHEN WE START RANKING

SCHOOL SHOOTINGS BASED ON

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

KILLED, AND THE NEED TO

PROTECT OURSELVES WHEN WE

GO TO CHURCH, WE NEED GOD.

WE NEED HIS RESTRAINING

HAND.

> HEAR IS A WORD FROM

PSALM 91: "THIS I DECLARE

ABOUT THE LORD: HE ALONE

IS MY REFUGE, MY PLACE OF

SAFETY.

HE IS MY GOD AND I TRUST

HIM."

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