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The 700 Club - March 13, 2018

Corbin Bernsen reveals the inspiration behind his latest true-to-life film. Plus, meet the family behind Saddleback Leather, the high-end bag company that got its start on Ebay. Read Transcript


Announcer: THE

FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS

SPONSORED BY CBN.

COMING UP...THE BAD BAND

COMPANY THAT ONCE GOT ITS

START ON eBAY.

MEET THE FAMILY BEHIND

SADDLE BACK LEATHER.

IF GOD WERE TO HAVE A

LEATHER BAG BUSINESS, HE

WOULD MAKE A QUALITY BAG.

AND CORBIN BERSEN

REVEALS THE INSPIRATION

BEHIND HIS LATEST FILM ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

TERRY, YOU AND I WERE HERE

YESTERDAY, AND YOU

REMEMBER I MADE AN

ASTOUNDING PREDICTION.

I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT THE

SECRETARY OF STATE WILL

RESIGN, REX TILLERSON.

HE IS GOING TO GO BECAUSE

HE HAS BEEN SHABBILY

TREATED.

AND TODAY HE IS OUT.

Terry: YEAH.

Pat: WELL, LET'S SHOW

THAT CLIP.

HERE IS WHAT WE SAID

YESTERDAY.

> I ALSO THINK THAT

SECRETARY TILLERSON IS

PROBABLY GOING TO RESIGN

BECAUSE HE WAS NOT

INCLUDED IN THIS AT ALL.

Terry: WHY WASN'T HE

INCLUDED?

DO YOU THINK IT WAS JUST A

LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF

THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO

THIS?

Pat: THIS MAN WAS ONE

OF THE BIGGEST BUSINESS

EXECUTIVES IN AMERICA.

HE HEADED UP EXXON-MOBIL.

HIGHLY COMPENSATED, HIGHLY

REGARDED.

IT IS A CONCESSION FOR HIM

TO JOIN THE TEAM.

SO HE IS NOW SECRETARY OF

STATE, WHICH IS A VERY

HIGH LEVEL.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A

SECRETARY OF STATE AND

YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT, YOU

CALL HIM AND SAY, LOOK,

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I'VE BEEN INVITED TO GO TO

NORTH KOREA.

DO YOU THINK I SHOULD

ACCEPT?

HE CAN SAY YES, NO, MAYBE,

AND THE PRESIDENT CAN GO

AHEAD AND DO WHAT HE WANTS

TO DO.

Terry: BUT HE MADE

THE GESTURE.

Pat: YEAH, BUT HE

DIDN'T BOTHER TO DO ANY OF

IT.

I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO

RESIGN.

THE ADMINISTRATION IS

SAYING THAT THEY'VE

DISMISSED HIM.

NOT TRUE.

IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT

WAY.

I SAID IT YESTERDAY, HE

WAS GOING TO RESIGN.

BUT A BIG-TIME, PROUD

BUSINESS EXECUTIVE, YOU

DON'T TREAT THEM THIS WAY.

Terry: YOU HAD SAID

YESTERDAY HE ALMOST CAN'T

NOT RESPOND IN THIS WAY.

Pat: AND IT HAPPENED

WITHIN 24 HOURS.

WATCH THIS PROGRAM.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: THE ONE THING I

DIDN'T KNOW IS THAT THE

C.I.A. DIRECTOR IS GOING

TO BE PUT IN THE -- MIKE

POMPEO IS A DIFFERENT GUY.

AND GARY LANE IS WITH US,

AND, GARY, I KNEW THAT

TILLERSON WAS GOING TO

RESIGN AFTER THE FACT HE

WASN'T INCLUDED IN

DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A VISIT

TO NORTH KOREA.

WHAT ABOUT MIKE POMPEO?

YOU INTERVIEWED HIM

SEVERAL TIMES.

TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW

ABOUT HIM?

WELL, HE IS VERY TOUGH

ON NATIONAL SECURITY.

HE IS MORE OF THE MINDSET

OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

SO THE PRESIDENT WANTS

SOMEONE WHO THINKS THE

SAME WAY HE DOES.

HE IS A CONSERVATIVE, PAT.

TOUGH ON IRAN.

WHEN HE WAS A MEMBER OF

THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES, HE

OPPOSED THE IRAN NUCLEAR

AGREEMENT THAT BARACK

OBAMA NEGOTIATED.

HE THINKS IT IS A BAD

DEAL, JUST LIKE PRESIDENT

TRUMP DOES.

ALSO ON NORTH KOREA, HE

HAS THE GOAL, AS THE

PRESIDENT DOES, TO

DENUCLEARIZE THE KOREAN

PENINSULA.

AND HE ALSO THINKS THEY

NEED TO BE TOUGH ON KIM

JONG-UN, "ROCKETMAN."

HE IS OF THE SAME MINDSET

THAT HE HAS TO BE STOPPED

IN NORTH KOREA.

Pat: DO YOU HAVE ANY

TAKE ON TILLERSON?

I THINK HE WAS, FRANKLY,

TREATYED SOMEWHAT SHABBILY

SHABBILY.

THE PRESIDENT WAS AT

ODDS WITH TILLERSON

REPEATEDLY.

IF YOU REMEMBER ON NORTH

KOREA, WHEN THE PRESIDENT

SAID WE'LL RAIN DOWN FIRE

AND FURY, TILLERSON WAS

OUTRAGED.

HE WAS OUTRAGED ABOUT THAT

COMMENT.

HE TRIED TO BACK PEDAL THE

PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS,

MAYBE SOFTEN IT A BIT.

AND HE HAS DONE THIS

REPEATEDLY.

SO THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN

AT ODDS WITH REX

TILLERSON.

NOW REX TILLERSON ALSO HAS

NO GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE.

WITH MIKE POMPEO, YOU GET

A MAN WHO WAS ON THE

INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE IN

THE HOUSE, A VERY SMART

GUY, MORE OF THE MINDSET

OF THE PRESIDENT.

AND HE'LL BE A GOOD FIT

WITH DONALD TRUMP.

Pat: AND MIKE POMPEO

IS A VERY DEDICATED

CHRISTIAN.

THEY HAVE A PRAYER MEETING

EVERY WEEK, DON'T THEY?

HE IS A PART OF THOSE

PRAYER MEETINGS.

AND NOT ONLY IS HE A

DEVOUT CHRISTIAN, BUT HE

WAS FIRST IN HIS CLASS AT

WEST POINT.

I MEAN, THIS GUY IS NO

DUMMY.

HE IS A VERY STRONG

MILITARY MAN.

HE IS PRO-MILITARY.

HE SERVED WITH THE FOURTH

INFANTRY IN EASTERN

EUROPE, RIGHT ON THE

BORDER OF EASTERN EUROPE,

ALSO IN THE GULF WAR.

HE HAS BATTLE EXPERIENCE.

HE IS A MILITARY GUY.

A SHARP MAN.

FIRST IN HIS CLASS AT WEST

POINT, PAT, AND THAT'S

NOTHING TO DISCOUNT.

Pat: GARY, THANK YOU.

SURE.

Pat: WE CONGRATULATE

THE NEW SECRETARY OF

STATE.

I GUESS HE'S GOT TO GET

CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE,

BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION

THAT WILL HAPPEN.

> IN OTHER NEWS, THERE

IS NO CONCERN ABOUT GLOBAL

WARMING IN THE NORTHEAST

AND MID ATLANTIC TODAY.

THEY'VE BEEN HIT BY THE

THIRD MAJOR NOR'EASTER IN

LESS THAN TWO WEEKSMENT

AND I MIGHT ADD HERE IN

BALMY VIRGINIA BEACH, I

LOOKED OUT THE DOOR ABOUT

10:00 OR SO LAST NIGHT,

AND LO AND BEHOLD, THE

SNOW WAS PELTING DOWN.

WE HAD ABOUT AN INCH OF

SNOW OR SOMETHING.

Terry: WE REALLY DID.

EVERYTHING WAS BEAUTIFULLY

WHITE.

BUT IT IS ALREADY MELTING

HERE.

THE STORM HAS STRETCHED

FROM NORTH CAROLINA UP TO

NEW YORK CITY, UP TO

BOSTON AND MAINE, BRINGING

HIGH WINDS AND ICY ROADS.

CHARLENE AARON HAS THE

STORY.

Charlene: MORE THAN A

MILLION PEOPLE ARE UNDER A

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY OR

WARNING AS A STORM DUMPED

UP TO A FOOT OF SNOW ON

THE OHIO VALLEY, AND

DOWNED TREES IN THE

CAROLINAS.

THERE IS A BLIZZARD

WARNING FOR MUCH OF THE

MASSACHUSETTS COAST, AND A

WINTER STORM WARNING FOR

MOST OF NEW ENGLAND, AND A

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY

FOR PORTIONS OF NEW YORK,

PENNSYLVANIA, AND NEW

JERSEY.

MILLIONS IN THE NORTHEAST

ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM

THE PREVIOUS BACK-TO-BACK

STORMS THAT LEFT MILLIONS

WITHOUT POWER.

WE WILL BE ENACTING A

STORM EMERGENCY STARTING

TONIGHT AT 7:00 IN THE

CITY OF BOSTON.

THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

ARE CLOSED FOR TOMORROW.

Charlene: THIS LATEST

STORM IS ON TRACK TO BRING

COASTAL FLOODS AND

POWERFUL WINDS.

SOME IN THE NORTHEAST ARE

WEARY OF THE CONTINUAL BAD

WEATHER.

WE NEVER HAD A UNTIL PROBLEM

UNTIL THIS LAST STORM.

Charlene: THE STORM

ALSO BROUGHT SNOW TO THE

MID ATLANTIC COAST,

INCLUDING VIRGINIA AND THE

CAROLINAS.

MORE THAN THREE INCHES OF

SNOW AND SLEET FELL IN

PARTS OF CENTRAL NORTH

CAROLINA.

ROAD CREWS IN SOME PARTS

OF THE STATE HAD TO CLEAR

ROADS EVERY 15 TO 20

MINUTES.

DRIVERS IN BOONE, NORTH

CAROLINA, WERE FORCED TO

ABANDON THEIR CARS.

I DON'T MIND GOING UP

THE HILL.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO COME

DOWN IT.

Charlene: THE WINTER

WEATHER IS ALSO AFFECTING

AIR TRAVEL.

MORE THAN A THOUSAND

FLIGHTS HAVE BEEN

CANCELLED FOR TODAY AND

TOMORROW.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT

I'M GETTING OUT.

SO I JUST WENT TO DELTA,

AND THEY SAID THAT

EVERYTHING IS SOLD OUT.

Charlene: WHILE THE

FIRST TWO STORMS OF THE

MONTH BROUGHT COASTAL

FLOODING AND HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS OF POWER

OUTAGES, MORE POWER

OUTAGES ARE POSSIBLE WITH

THIS LATEST STORM.

MANY ARE HOPING THEY WON'T

BE AS WIDESPREAD AS LAST

WEEK.

CHARLENE AARON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS,

CHARLENE.

I'VE JUST GOTTEN A BOOK

CALLED "THE POLITICALLY

INCORRECT GUIDE TO GLOBAL

WARMING."

AND YOU DEBUNK SOME OF

THIS GLOBAL WARMING.

IT LOOKS LIKE GLOBAL

COOLING MAY BE ON THE WAY.

WE MAY BE ON THE WAY TO

ANOTHER LITTLE ICE AGE

INSTEAD OF MORE WARMING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING

TO HAVE EGG ON THEIR FACE.

AND THIS BOOK

CONGRATULATES THE SENATOR

FROM OKLAHOMA WHO HAS BEEN

STEADFAST AGAINST THE

RELIGION OF GLOBAL

WARMING.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SOME

PRETTY SEVERE WEATHER SO

FAR, LOTS OF SNOW OUT IN

THE WEST TO A TERRIFIC ICE

PACK UP IN THE SIERRA

MOUNTAINS, WHICH MEANS

THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF

WATER FOR CALIFORNIA.

> IN OTHER NEWS,

REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE

INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE

HAVE FINISHED THEIR

INVESTIGATIONS INTO

RUSSIA'S MEDDLING IN THE

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

HERE IS JOHN JESSUP TO

TELL US WHAT THEY FOUND.

John: THANKS, PAT.

REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE

INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ARE

ENDING THEIR RUSSIA

INVESTIGATION.

A DRAFT REPORT CONCLUDES

THERE WAS N NO CONLUTION COLLUSION.

TEXAS CONGRESSMAN MIKE

CONAWAY SAYS THEY WILL

SHARE THE REPORT WITH

DEMOCRATS TODAY.

DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING THAT

REPUBLICANS HAVE CAVEED CAVED

INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.

WE HAVE SEEN SOME

CHANCE COINCIDENCES WHERE

PEOPLE BUMP INTO EACH

OTHER IN VARIOUS PLACES,

BUT NO EVIDENCE OF

COLLUSION.

MY COLLEAGUES VIEWED

THEIR JOB AS PROTECTING

THEIR CLIENT, THE

PRESIDENT, RATHER THAN

GETTING TO THE TRUTH.

AND I THINK THAT IS A

GRAVE DISSERVICE FOR THE

COUNTRY.

John: AFTER THE

PANEL'S YEAR-LONG PROBE,

THEY PLAN TO RELEASE A

150-PAGE REPORT ON THEIR

FINDINGS, BASED ON 73

INTERVIEWS AND OVER

300,000 DOCUMENTS.

MEANWHILE, PAT, THE SENATE

INVESTIGATION OF BOB

MUELLER CONTINUES.

Pat: I THINK IT IS

TIME WE STOP THIS STUFF.

RON ROSENSTEIN, THE DEPUTY

ATTORNEY-GENERAL SAYS ROD

ROSENSTEIN IS DOING GREAT.

FOR THE PRESIDENT TO BE

DIDIVERTED MONTH AFTER

MONTH, THE HOUSE ETHICS

COMMITTEE AND INTELLIGENCE

COMMITTEE HAS MADE A

THOROUGH STUDY OF THIS.

THERE IS NO COLLUSION

BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN

AND THE RUSSIANS.

AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN

SOME MEETINGS, AS THEY

SAY, AND SOME OF THEM MAY

HAVE BEEN ILL-ADVISED, BUT

THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING

AS DELIBERATE COLLUSION.

AND THE SPECIAL COUNCIL

NOW IS GOING ON A WITCH

HUNT.

HE IS INTO EVERYTHING.

I THINK IT IS TIME WE

REIGN HIM IN.

I THINK ENOUGH.

THE PRESIDENT CAN

CERTAINLY SHUT HIM DOWN,

BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE

POLITICALLY FEASIBLE.

THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL CAN

SAY ENOUGH, AND THAT'S

WHAT THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL

IS APPOINTED FOR.

AND HE SAYS, I'M GOING TO

RECUSE MYSELF FROM RUSSIA,

BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT

MATTER.

I THINK HIS DEPUTY HAS PUT

THIS MAN IN CHARGE, AND HE

HAS BEEN A VERY FINE

PUBLIC SERVANT.

AND HE HAS DONE A GREAT

DEAL OF WORK.

AND HE HAS FOUND SOME

PEOPLE, SOME RUSSIANS, I

MIGHT ADD, WHO HAVE DONE

SOMETHING, AND HE'S GOT

THEM INDICTED.

I THINK IT IS TIME TO SHUT

HIM DOWN.

AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT

NEEDS TO GET ON WITH THE

JOB OF BEING THE CHIEF

EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED

STATES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS

GUY AND HE IS SUPPOSED TO

RUN THE COUNTRY.

HE HAS A HUGE PORTFOLIO.

HE HAS TO MANAGE THE

FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND HE HAS

TO MANAGE THE DOMESTIC

AFFAIRS, AND WE'RE LOOKING

AT TAX IMPLEMENTATION.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, FOR

EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A

MERGER OF MAJOR COMPANIES

THAT HE SHOT DOWN.

A SINGAPORE COMPANY WAS

TRYING TO TAKE OVER

QUALICUMQUALCOMM, AND HE SAID NO

WAY, AND THAT WAS A GOOD

THING.

IT IS TIME TO STOP

HAMMERING HIM ON HIS

NONSENSE ABOUT RUSSIAN

INVOLVEMENT.

IT IS OVER.

THE HOUSE COMMITTEE HAS

DONE A THOROUGH JOB.

I CAN'T SEE WHY WE

COULDN'T SAY, MR. MUELLER,

YOU'RE A NICE MAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

YOUR SERVICE, AND GO HOME.

JOHN?

John: PAT, FOR THE

FIRST TIME SINCE WINNING

THE WHITE HOUSE, PRESIDENT

TRUMP TRAVELS TO

CALIFORNIA TODAY, WHERE

HE'LL BE INSPECTING

PROTOTYPES FOR HIS WALL

WITH MEXICO.

HE WILL LOOK AT EIGHT

VERSIONS.

THE PRESIDENT'S VISIT

COMES AMID GROWING

TENSIONS BETWEEN THE

ADMINISTRATION AND

CALIFORNIA STATE OFFICIALS

OVER ENFORCING IMMIGRATION

LAWS.

> VOTERS IN SOUTHWEST

PENNSYLVANIA WENT TO THE

POLLS FOR A SPECIAL

ELECTRIC TODAY.

IELECTION DAY.

TRUMP CAMPAIGNED FOR

SACCONE OVER THE WEEKEND.

BUT DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THEY

HAVE A SHOT OF WINNING THE

THE DISTRICT, AS A SIGN

THEY CAN TAKE BACK THE

HOUSE IN NOVEMBER'S

CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS.

> LARRY KUDLOW HAS

EMERGED AS A CANDIDATE TO

REPLACE GARY COHN.

GARY COHN RESIGNED.

LARRY KUDLOW IS CONSIDERED

A FREE TRADER WHO OPPOSES

TARIFFS.

BUT HE SHARES SOME OF THE

PRESIDENT'S VIEWS AGAINST

CHINA ON TRADE.

> IF YOU WANT TO

INCREASE YOUR CHANCES OF

STAYING HEALTHY AS YOU

AGE, EXERCISE REGULARLY.

THE AMERICAN COUNCIL ON

SCIENCE AND HEALTH REPORTS

THAT ONE OF THE STUDIES

WHO FOUND ADULTS WHO

RROUTINELY EXERCISE, IT

HELPS PROTECT YOUR MUSCLES

AND IT CAN KEEP YOUR

IMMUNE HEALTHY, TOO.

Pat: I'M SO HAPPY.

PatTHE TOTAL GYM IS A BOMB --

Terry: A GOOD BOMB?

Pat: A GOOD BOMB.

Terry: YOU CAN DO A

LOT OF THINGS WITH THE

TOTAL GYM.

Pat: EXACTLY.

IT IS JUST A MARVELOUS

MACHINE.

AND IT'S THE KIND OF THING

THAT AN OLDER PERSON CAN

USE, AND IT'S YOUR OWN

BODY WEIGHT.

SO THE CHANCES OF GETTING

HURT ARE ALMOST NILL.

IT IS REALLY GOOD.

THEY COST -- WELL, THEY'RE

NOT FREE.

THEY USED TO COST OVER A

THOUSAND BUCKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS

NOW.

I THINK YOU CAN GET THEM

FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS

NOW.

WHY NOT EXERCISE?

Terry: WORTHY OF YOUR

TIME, BASED ON THAT LAST

REPORT.

Pat: WE KEEP

EXERCISING AND WE'RE

GETTING YOUNGER.

Terry: EXACTLY.

YOU'RE GOING IN THE

OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

Pat: YOU LOOK AT

NOAH, AND GOD SAID 120.

IT ISN'T 70 YEARS.

NOT 80 YEARS.

IT'S 120 YEARS.

Terry: THERE YOU GO.

Pat: OKAY.

Terry: TALK NICELY

ABOUT ME WHEN I'M GONE,

WILL YOU?

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: I REMEMBER

TERRY, SHE WAS SO SWEET.

Terry: WELL, UP NEXT,

IT IS A TRUE STORY OF BAGS

TO RICHES.

HERE IS HOW ONE MAN BUILT

A DREAM WITH A LEATHER

EMPIRE.

I HAD AN IDEA OF THIS

BAG I WANTED IN MY HEAD.

I THOUGHT LIKE INDIANA

JONES WOULD CARRY.

I STARTED LOOKING AROUND

FOR IT.

I COULDN'T FIND IT.

SO I MOVED BACK DOWN TO

MEXICO FOR JUST A LITTLE

BIT TO GET SOME MORE BAGS

MADE.

I HAD A SIGN AND THE

WINDOW THAT SAID, "REAL

COOL BAGS FOR SALE."

Terry: HEAR THE STORY

ABOUT SADDLE BAG LEATHER,

AND SEE HOW THIS COMPANY

IS HELPING PEOPLE WITH

EVERY BAG THEY SELL.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: THANKS FOR BEING

WITH US.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

STAY WITH US BECAUSE WE

HAVE BREAKING NEWS A LOT

OF TIMES.

AND I THINK IT IS KIND OF

FUN TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT

RATHER THAN TO TELL YOU

LATER.

WE LIKE TO BE AT THE HEAD

OF THE GAME AND GIVE YOU

THE INSIGHT OF WHAT IS

GOING ON IN THE WORLD.

I THINK OUR NEWS

DEPARTMENT IS DOING A

SUPERB JOB.

> HERE IS A FEATURE THAT

I THINK WILL WARM YOUR

HEART.

A TEXAS COUPLE HAS GONE

FROM SELLING LEATHER GOODS

ON eBAY TO MAKING THEM

IN MAJOR PRODUCTION

FACILITIES IN MEXICO AND

FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

BUT DAVE AND SUZETTE

MUNSON AREN'T JUST

COUNTING DOLLARS.

THEY'RE CHANGING LIVES BY

SHOWING THEIR EMPLOYEES

THE LOVE OF CHRIST.

EVER GRAHAEFREM GRAHAM HAS THIS LOOK

AT THE UNTOLD STORY OF A

COMPANY KNOWN AS "SADDLE

LEATHER."

Efrem: THAT'S THE HUM

OF SADDLE LETTER WORKERS,

HAND CRAFTING THE

HIGHEST-QUALITY LEATHER

BAGS.

THE COMPANY'S SLOGAN

PROMISES, "THEY'LL FIGHT

OVER IT WHEN YOU'RE DEAD."

THE IDEA IS AFTER MY

FUNERAL, PEOPLE WOULD BE,

LIKE, I GET IT.

KNOW, I GET IT.

Efrem: THE C.E.O. HAS

A LEATHER COFFIN IN HIS

TEXAS OFFICE.

I WANTED SOMETHING THAT

LASTS FOREVER.

I FIGURED IF GOD WERE TO

HAVE A LEATHER BAG

BUSINESS, HE WOULD MAKE

THEM HIGH QUALITY.

Efrem: FOR THE FULL

STORY BEHIND SADDLE BAG,

WE TRAVELLED TO MEXICO.

THIS CITY IS HOME TO ABOUT

TWO MILLION PEOPLE AND

ONLY ABOUT 8,000 ARE

CHRISTIANS.

AND MEXICO IS ALSO WHERE

DAVE MUNSON SAW HIS VERY

FIRST BAG CREATED.

IT IS A HOME AWAY FROM

HOME FOR HIM, HIS WIFE,

AND THEIR TWO CHILDREN.

I WAS A MISSIONARY,

TEACHING ENGLISH DOWN HERE

IN MEXICO.

AND I HAD THIS IDEA OF

THIS BAG I WANTED IN MY

HEAD.

I THOUGHT LIKE INDIANA

JONES WOULD CARRY.

I STARTED LOOKING AROUND

FOR IT, AND I COULDN'T

FIND IT.

BUT I FOUND A GUY MAKING

BAGS, AND I SKETCHED IT

OUT FOR HIM, AND SAID,

HEY, CAN YOU MAKE THIS FOR

ME.

SO HE DID.

AND I GOT THIS BAG, AND

EVERYWHERE I WENT -- WHEN

I GOT BACK FROM A YEAR OF

TEACHING ENGLISH,

EVERYWHERE I WENT, PEOPLE

WERE ASKING ME, WHERE CAN

I GET A BAG LIKE THAT?

PEOPLE TAPPED ME ON THE

SHOULDER, WHERE CAN I FIND

A BAG LIKE THIS?

SO I MOVED BACK DOWN TO

MEXICO FOR JUST A LITTLE

BIT TO GET SOME MORE BAGS

MADE.

BROUGHT THEM BACK UP, SOLD

THEM OUT OF THE BACK OF MY

OLD LAND CRUISER.

I HAD MY DOG SITTING ON

THE TAILGATE, MY OLD BLACK

LAB, BLUE, AND I HUNG THEM

ON THE RACK, AND I HAD A

SIGN "REAL COOL BAGS FOR

SALE."

Efrem: THIS IS OLD

MEXICO MANUFACTURING, THE

COMPANY THAT PRODUCES

SADDLE LETTER AND

EMPLOYEES MORE THAN 200

PEOPLE.

BUT THIS IS NOT YOUR

ORDINARY FACTORY.

WITH EIGHT YEARS ON THE

JOB, THIS DESIGNER SAYS

MEETING AND WORKING WITH

THE MUNSONS CHANGED HER

LIFE.

THEY KNEW ME WHEN I GOT

HERE, AND THE PERSON THAT

WAS THERE, AND THE PERSON

THAT I AM TODAY.

IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT.

MAYBE I'M -- I HAVE MORE

PEACE, PERHAPS.

Efrem: IS YOUR FAITH

STRONGER?

YES, FOR SURE.

Efrem: THIS BEGAN

WITH YOUR VISION FOR A BAG

AND HAVING SOMEONE CREATE

IT.

DOES IT STILL PRETTY MUCH

WORK THAT WAY, YOU COME IN

HERE WITH A VISION AND

THESE PEOPLE MAKE IT

HAPPEN?

YEAH, I'LL SKETCH IT

OUT.

Efrem: AND DAVE PAYS

HIS EMPLOYEES A

COMPETITIVE WAGE,

PROVIDING CHILD CARE WITH

THEM ON SITE, AND LUNCH ON

SITE AS WELL, AND ALLOWING

CHURCHES TO USE THE

CAFETERIA FROM BIBLE STUDY

AND SERVICES.

THE HEART HAS ALWAYS

BEEN FOR PEOPLE.

I WAS DOING FULL-TIME

MINISTRY UP UNTIL RIGHT

BEFORE WE MET BECAUSE I

WANTED TO REACH PEOPLE.

I WANTED TO LET THEM KNOW

ABOUT WHAT GOD HAS DONE IN

ME, AND I WANT THEM TO

HAVE THE SAME THING.

SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF

NATURAL.

I'M THE YOUNGEST OF 10,

AND MY PARENTS ALWAYS HAD

THE DOWN AND OUTTERS IN

OUR HOME.

I WOULD COME HOME AND

THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE

THAT I HAD NEVER SEEN

BEFORE, AND THEY WERE

INVITED TO DINNER.

I GREW UP THAT WAY.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS QUITE

NORMAL.

BUT IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE I

FEEL LIKE GOD HAS GIVEN US

A LARGE PLATFORM TO BE

ABLE TO DO IT ON A BROADER

SCALE.

AND IT REALLY IS

INCREDIBLY FULFILLING FOR

US.

I CALL IT MY CHURCH,

SOMETIMES, ON ACCIDENT.

SO I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE

MY PEOPLE.

AND GOD'S PUT ME IN CHARGE

THERE.

AND WE REALLY CARE FOR

THEM.

AND WE WALK THROUGH

SOME REALLY TOUGH TIMES

WITH THESE FAMILIES.

AND SO I GOT TO GO INTO

THEIR HOMES.

I'VE VISITED THEIR HOMES.

WE TOOK SOME SUPPLIES AND

THINGS THAT WE KNEW THEY

WERE GOING TO NEED DURING

THESE DIFFICULT TIMES.

SO IT IS FRESH.

IT IS VERY FRESH, STILL,

FOR ME.

BECAUSE REUNITING WITH

THESE FAMILIES YESTERDAY

AND TALKING TO THEM AND

ASKING THEM HOW ARE THINGS

GOING, AND ONE OF THEM

TELLING ME, MY SON IS

DOING GREAT.

HE IS IN THE DAYCARE NOW,

AND MY WIFE HAS A JOB HERE

NOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

PRAYERS.

AND HIM GETTING EMOTIONAL,

TOO, AND JUST SAYING

THINGS ARE SO DIFFERENT.

WE CAN'T THANK GOD ENOUGH.

WE CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS

ENOUGH.

SO WE'RE INVOLVED IN THESE

PEOPLE'S LIVES.

IT IS NOT JUST A JOB.

WERE YOU THOUGHT, YOU

KNOW WHAT?

IF WE REALLY WANT TO REACH

THESE PEOPLE, WE'LL SHOW

THEM HOW MUCH WE LOVE

THEIR CHILDREN.

SO THE PLACE WHERE I WAS

TEACHING ENGLISH BACK IN

THE DAY IN 1999, I CALLED

THEM UP AND I SAID, HEY,

AND I TALKED TO THE

DIRECTOR, AND I SAID, IF

WE FUNDED IT, WOULD YOU

START IT HERE IN LEON.

AND TEACHING THEM ENGLISH

COMPLETELY CHANGES THEIR

LIVES.

Efrem: THE SCHOOL IS

A MUNSON FAMILY AFFAIR,

WITH ONE OF THEIR 14

ADOPTED SONS FROM RWANDA

WORKING AS A TEACHER.

NOW I CAN SURELY SAY

THAT GOD REALLY HEARD OUR

PRAYERS.

IS THIS THE LIFE YOU

ENVISIONED FOR YOURSELVES?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I THINK IT FAR EXCEEDS

WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED FOR

SURE.

I KNEW WHEN I MET HIM THAT

WE WOULD BE DOING

MINISTRY.

THAT WAS A NO-BRAINER, BUT

WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW

IT WOULD BE TO THIS

MAGNITUDE.

WE DID NOT KNOW THAT.

Efrem: CALL IT

EXCEEDINGLY, ABUNDANTLY

ABOVE ALL THE MUNSONS

COULD HAVE EVER ASKED FOR

IMAGINED.

CBN NEWS, LEON, MEXICO.

Pat: HAVE YOU EVER

HAD ONE OF THOSE SADDLE

BACK BAGS?

Terry: NO, BUT I SURE

WHAT LIKE ONE.

Pat: YOU CAN GO TO

cbnnews.com, AND WE CAN

GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS OF

HOW THEY MAKE BEAUTIFUL

LEATHER GOODS.

Terry: DON'T YOU LOVE

WHEN GOD GIVES A CREATIVE

IDEA LIKE THAT AND IT

WINDS UP CHANGING SO MANY

LIVES?

WELL-DONE.

> STILL AHEAD, IT IS THE

TRUE STORY ABOUT FINDING

HOPE IN THE MIDDLE OF

TRAGEDY.

AND NOW IT IS ONE THAT IS

BEING TOLD IN A BRAND NEW

FEATURE FILM.

CORBIN BERSEN TAKES US

INSIDE THE MOVIE "MY DADDY

IS IN HEAVEN," AND THAT'S

NEXT.

Terry: IN 2009,

REBECCA CROWN LOST HER

HUSBAND IN A TRAGIC

ACCIDENT.

MEANING HER YOUNG DAUGHTER

LOST HER FATHER AS WELL.

OUTCH HEOUT OF HER GRIEF, SHE

WROTE A STORY ENTITLED,

"NMY DADDY IS IN HEAVEN,"

AND NOW THAT IS A BRAND

NEW FEATURE FILM STARRING

ACTOR CORBIN BERSEN.

YOU ALL KNOW ME, AND

YOU KNOW MY ONE RULE ABOUT

FOURTH OF JULY.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON

HAVING FUN --

[LAUGHTER]

THAT'S RIGHT.

I LOVE IT SO MUCH.

YOU ARE MY

GRANDDAUGHTER AS MUCH AS

YOU ARE MY DAUGHTER.

[INAUDIBLE]

EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU

CHANGED.

YOU SEEM TO HAVE LOST YOUR

WAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD

LIKE YOU TO DO?

GIVE ME SOME SPACE.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU NOTHING

BUT SPACE!

GOD IS WHAT GIVES US

GRACE.

NO, DON'T EVEN TELL ME

ABOUT THAT.

THOSE ARE JUST WORDS.

HE TOOK EVERYTHING.

SOMETIMES I THINK IF I

DIDN'T ASK ADAM TO GO

AWAY, HE WOULD STILL BE

ALIVE.

I WANT TO TELL HIM THAT

I MISS HIM AND THAT I LOVE

HIM, AND THAT I'M SORRY

THAT I WAS COLD.

THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

WHAT HAPPENED HAD NOTHING

TO DO WITH YOU.

YOU'RE ON THIS JOURNEY,

AND YOU'VE GOT TO SEE IT

THROUGH.

I THINK IT IS TRULY

AMAZING, WHAT Y'ALL DID

BACK THERE, TO HELP THAT

BOY CROSS OVER TO THE

OTHER SIDE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HURT A

LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN

A LOT, BUT AT THE END OF

THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL

LIKE A BALL OF RAIN ON A

SUMMER MORNING.

Terry: JOINING US FOR

MORE ON THIS FILM IS

CORBIN BERSEN.

WELCOME BACK.

THANK YOU.

IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO BE

HERE.

Terry: WHAT WAS IT

ABOUT THIS STORY THAT DREW

YOU IN?

I WAS THINKING ABOUT

THIS BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS

GOING TO DO THE SHOW, AND

WHAT DO I WANT TO TALK

ABOUT, AND OF COURSE TALK

ABOUT THE FILM, BUT MY

JOURNEY OF FAITH TO GOD,

TO GET TO KNOW GOD AND

CHRIST BETTER, HAS REALLY

BEEN THROUGH FILM-MAKING.

GOD USES ME IN THAT.

HE SAID, I'M GOING TO DRAW

YOU INTO THE THING YOU

LOVE, AND LET'S GET TO

KNOW EACH OTHER.

HE KNOWS HOW TO -- HE

KNOWS WHERE TO SAY, I'M

GOING TO DRAW YOU THIS

WAY.

AND IT LED ME TO MAKING

THE FILMS THAT I'VE BEEN

HERE TO TALK ABOUT, BOTH

MY OWN AND OTHERS THAT

PEOPLE ASK ME TO BE IN.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IN

THEM IS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE

FILMS THAT THE AUDIENCE,

WHO ARE CHRISTIAN, ENJOY,

BUT GOD REALLY SAID, COR

BENCORBIN, I NEED YOU TO

EXPAND.

I JUST HAD A GUY TURN ME

DOWN FOR A FILM THAT WE'RE

DOING ACROSS THE WAY, AND

HE SAID, IT IS TOO

RELIGIOUS.

AND I SAID, WOW, MAN,

YOU'RE MISSING IT.

YOU'RE MISSING IT, MAN.

SO I TRY TO FIND IN MY

FILMS NOT LIKE A COME TO

JESUS.

IT IS TOO BIG.

IT'S TOO MUCH.

BUT WHAT PART ABOUT OUR

FAITH CAN I RELATE TO ON A

VERY SMALL PART.

AND THIS MOVIE VERY

SPECIFICALLY -- I'M SORRY

FOR THE LONG ANSWER, BUT I

CARE ABOUT IT DEEPLY.

THAT'S IN THE FACE OF THAT

KIND OF TRAGEDY BE IN THE

FACE OF HOPELESSNESS AND

LOSS, WHETHER YOU'RE WITH

GOD AND JESUS OR NOT, YOU

NEED THAT THING TO MOVE

FORWARD.

AND THE REMARKABLE THING I

FIND, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE

IN CHRIST, BELIEVE IN

JESUS, YOU CALL YOURSELF

CHRISTIAN, YOU DON'T, IS

TO HAVE THAT THING THAT

PULLS YOU FORWARD THAT WE

KNOW TO BE GOD, TO BE

CHRIST, OUR FAITH.

THE WORD "FAITH," THE WORD

THAT EVERYBODY OVER USES

BUT DOESN'T COMPLETELY

APPRECIATE THAT WORD, TO

HAVE THAT FAITH IN GOD

TAKING YOU THROUGH, THAT'S

A REMARKABLE THING.

HOW CAN 17 KIDS IN A

SCHOOL -- HOW CAN THEIR

PARENTS DEAL WITH THAT

GRIEF.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE A

BELIEF -- YOU JUST HAVE A

FAITH IN GOD THAT YOU'LL

GET THROUGH IT.

AND THAT BEAUTIFUL THING

THAT GOD WILL ONLY GIVE

YOU AS MUCH AS YOU CAN

HANDLE.

SO IT DREW M WHAT DREW ME TO THIS

MOVIE IS BEING ABLE TO

EXPLORE THAT THING,

ESPECIALLY IN A WORLD THAT

IS PRETTY VOLATILE RIGHT

NOW.

HOW DO I GET TO TOMORROW?

Terry: THEL ME ABOUT TELL ME ABOUT

YOUR CHARACTER IN THE

MOVIE.

WE JUST SAW A SCENE WHERE

YOU WERE PRETTY ACTIVE AND

AGGRESSIVE --

PRETTY ANGRY.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A

WONDERFUL STORY ABOUT

REBECCA CROWN, WHO LOST

HER HUSBAND ON A FOURTH OF

JULY NIGHT BECAUSE HE WENT

BACK TO GET THEIR LITTLE

DAUGHTER A COAT.

SHE HAS TO FEEL THAT DADDY

DIED BECAUSE OF ME.

WHEN HER HUSBAND DIES, THE

WAY -- THIS IS WHAT

HAPPENED IN HER LIFE.

BY THE WAY, WHEN I STARTED

THIS MOVIE, I DIDN'T EVEN

KNOW IT WAS A REAL STORY.

NOBODY TOLD ME.

I MET THE REBECCA AND HER

DAUGHTER AND WAS, LIKE,

OH, THIS IS -- I'M REALLY

PROUD OF THE WORK ON THIS,

NOT THAT I EVER FLUFFED MY

WAY THROUGH ANYTHING, BUT

I THOUGHT I HAVE A

RESPONSIBILITY HERE, THIS

IS A REAL STORY.

IN THIS STORY, THAT I

UNDERSTAND FROM REBECCA,

WHEN SHE LOST HER FAITH,

SHE SORT OF, LET'S JUST

SAY WENT RECKLESS.

ME AS A DIRECTOR AND ACTOR

AND WRITER, I SAY, YOU

LOST YOUR FAITH, AND HOW

DO WE SHOW THAT?

I GO OFF AND GO PARTY AND

DRINK AND DO WHATEVER IT

IS, AND I LOSE MY WAY.

THE MOVIE I JUST WROTE

THAT WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN

A COUPLE OF MONTHS TALKING

ABOUT -- I LOVE THAT

MOMENT OF SOMEBODY WHO HAS

LOST THEIR PATH, AND YOU

HAVE TO SHOW IT IN THE

MOVIE HOW.

AND SHE LOST HER PATH, AND

THIS IS WHERE I'M ANGRY AT

HER BECAUSE I KNOW THE

ONLY THING THAT IS GOING

TO KEEP HER THERE IS GOD

AND HER FAITH.

AND SHE HAS TURNED HER

BACK ON GOD.

SHE IS, LIKE, HE DIDN'T

TAKE CARE OF ME, SO FORGET

IT.

DEAL'S OFF.

Terry: THE FAITH

ISSUE REALLY COMES INTO

PLAY WHEN WE'RE IN TRAGIC

SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

OH, YES.

Terry: TELL ME ABOUT

REBECCA AND HER DAUGHTER

NOW?

WHERE ARE THEY AT?

THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,

WONDERFUL PEOPLE.

IT WAS STRANGE BECAUSE I

THOUGHT, I LOVE MY

FAMILY -- I FELT LIKE

THERE IS THIS THING WHERE

THEY -- I HAVE A WONDERFUL

FAMILY, MY WIFE, AND I

HAVE FOUR SONS.

AND I FELT BAD FOR THEIR

SITUATION, I SUPPOSE, BUT

THEY'RE DOING WONDERFULLY.

I THINK SHE IS SO THRILLED

THAT THIS STORY IS COMING

TOGETHER.

HER DAUGHTER IS

TREMENDOUS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

KNOW THEM WELL ENOUGH, BUT

SHE IS PROBABLY LEARNING A

LOT THROUGH THIS MOVIE.

HER FATHER DIES.

HER MOM WRITES THIS

CHILDREN'S BOOK AND IT

BECOMES A MOVIE, AND

EVERYBODY EMBRACES THE

MOVIE.

IT IS GOD SAYING, I'M

GOING TO HELP YOU, GIRL.

JUST KEEP FOLLOWING THE

STORY.

Terry: HE HELPS EACH

AND ALL OF US.

ALL OF US.

WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS I DON'T

WANT TO BE IN YOUR FILM

BECAUSE IT IS RELIGIOUS --

AND I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE

TO DO ALL OF THE STUFF YOU

THINK IT IS.

Terry: YOU ARE AN

ACTOR THAT FLUCTUATES

BETWEEN THE SECULAR WORLD

AND THE CHRISTIAN WORLD --

YES, MA'AM.

Terry: IS IT HARD TO

JUGGLE ALL OF THAT?

NO, IT'S NOT.

I'LL TELL YOU, BEFORE I DO

ANYTHING I THINK MIGHT

OFFEND GOD, I SIT DOWN AND

HAVE THIS CONVERSATION

WITH HIM.

I SAY, I'VE GOT THIS THING

TO DO, I KNOW I'M CROSSING

IT, AND I CONSTANTLY GET

THIS -- SOMETIMES I THINK,

IS THAT THE DEVIL TALKING

TO ME?

AM I REACHING OUT TO GOD,

HE IS ON THE OTHER LINE,

AND THE DEVIL JUMPS IN AND

SAYS, HEY, CORBIN, NO, GOD

HERE.

I TRULY FEEL GOD USES US

HOW HE WILL TO EXPAND HIS

KINGDOM.

I'LL TELL YOU ONE GREAT

EXAMPLE.

I WAS DOING A PHONE

INTERVIEW FOR ONE OF THESE

MOVIES.

AND THE GUY WAS, LIKE,

CORBIN BERSEN AND "L.A.

LAW," AND ALL OF THOSE

WOMEN, AND HE SAID, I HAD

TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I'M

NOT SO SURE --

I SAID, STOP A MINUTE.

WHATEVER I DID GOT ME HERE

TO TALKING ABOUT FAITH AND

GOD AND CHRIST.

DO YOU JUST DO ANYTHING

YOU WANT TO?

NO.

BUT I HAD A VERY PRIVATE

CONVERSATION WITH GOD, AND

GOD DOESN'T SAY I'M GOING

TO GIVE YOU THE FREEDOM,

BUT HE SAYS, KNOW ME IN

YOUR HEART.

KNOW ME IN YOUR HEART.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE

WORDS OR THE ACTIONS THAT

YOU DO ON A FILM IF IT

HELPS YOU BOTH RAISE UP TO

RAISE ME UP -- I HAVE A

FILM AND I'M GOING TO

PROBABLY COME HERE AND

CARVE OUT.

I JUST WROTE A FILM, WHEN

A MAN LOSES HIS WAY --

IT'S CALLED "LIFE WITH

DOG."

HIS WIFE WHO IS CHRISTIAN,

HE WENT TO SCHOOL AND

CHURCH WITH HER.

AND EVERY SUNDAY HE SAT

THERE DUTIFULLY, BUT

DIDN'T HAVE A RELATION

WITH GOD.

AND SHE SAID, WHATEVER YOU

DO, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU

WANT, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU

TO USE THAT LANGUAGE.

HE LOSES HER.

AND IN THE MOVIE -- I HAVE

TWO VERSIONS OF IT.

HE DROPS A COUPLE OF "F"

BOMBS, AND PEOPLE WATCHING

IT GO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT

IN A CHRISTIAN MOVIE.

AND I SAID, NO, THIS IS

HOW HE LOST THE PATH

BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF

HER.

AS LONG AS HE CAN RECLAIM

THE PATH, IS THAT OKAY?

IT IS A BIG QUESTION IN

CHRISTIAN FILM-MAKING,

WHAT CAN I DO AND SHOW

SOMEBODY LOSING THE PATH

AND BE REAL AND COME BACK

TO THE PATH.

Terry: WE ARE EXCITED

ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

I KNOW YOU'VE GOT MORE

COMING UP.

YOU'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON

THINGS AND BRINGING THEM

TO US.

I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE

MOVIE "MY DADDY IS IN

HEAVEN" IS AVAILABLE ON

D.V.D. AND ON DEMAND

TODAY.

KU FINYOU CAN FIND OUT MORE

INFORMATION ON cbn.com

BE SURE TO WATCH THE

MOVIE.

IT IS AWESOME.

IT REALLY IS A

WONDERFUL FILM.

THEY'RE ALL WONDERFUL.

Terry: YOU YOU'RE

ALLOWED.

THIS IS A WONDERFUL

PART OF MY JOURNEY.

Terry: WELL, WE LOVE

YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU.

Terry: COMING UP, A

DOC WHO WAS ON THE VIRGE

OF LOSING HIS PRACTICE,

HIS FAMILY, AND EVEN HIS

MIND.

YOU GO FROM SEEING 45

TO 50 PATIENTS A DAY DOWN

TO 15 TO 20, AND WITH THAT

CAME DRINKING MORE.

WITH THAT CAME MARITAL

PROBLEMS.

Terry: FIND OUT HOW

HE WAS RESCUED FROM HIS

DARK PLACE WHEN WE RETURN.

AND WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE

HAS CALLED ON JOY BEHAR TO

PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE FOR HER

REMARKS AGAINST HIS

CHRISTIAN FAITH.

BEHAR COMPARED HEARING

FROM JESUS TO MENTAL

ILLNESS.

PENCE SAYS HER COMMENTS

WERE AN INSULT TO MILLIONS

OF AMERICANS.

HE TOLD SEAN HANNITY THAT

BEHAR CALLED TO APOLOGIZE.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT

THAT I PROTECT MILLIONS OF

AMERICANS AGAINST THAT

KIND OF SLANDER.

AND I DID SO.

I GIVE JOE BEIRU JOY BEHAR A LOT OF

CREDIT.

THEY PICKED UP THE PHONE

AND SHE WAS VERY SINCERE

AND SHE APOLOGIZED.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS MY

FAITH DOES IS TO HAVE

GRACE.

BUT I DID ENCOURAGE HER TO

APOLOGIZE TO TENS OF

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO

WERE EQUALLY OFFENDED.

Wendy: SO FAR BEHAR

HAS NOT PUBLICLY

APOLOGIZED.

> INVESTIGATOR IT'S IN

AUSTIN, TEXAS, ARE TRYING

TO FIND OUT WHO IS BEHIND

THREE RECENT BOMB ATTACKS.

THE BOMBS WERE PLACED IN

PACKAGES OUTSIDE OF

PEOPLE'S HOMES.

THEY BELIEVE THERE IS A

CONNECTION BETWEEN THE

BOMBINGS.

THE FIRST WAS IN EARLY

MARCH, THAT KILLED ONE

MAN.

THE OTHER TWO EXPLOSIONS

HAPPENED ON MONDAY, THAT

KILLED ONE TEENAGED BOY

AND INJURED TWO WOMEN.

INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE IT

IS TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT

IS MOTIVATING THE ATTACKS,

BUT THEY HAVEN'T RULED OUT

A RATE CRIME.

THERE IS A $15,000 REWARD

FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE

EXPWHROATIONZ.

EXPLOSIONS.

> AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GET

THE LATEST FROM CBN NEWS

BY VISITING OUR WEBSITE

AT cbnnews.com.

WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF

TODAY'S "700 CLUB" RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELCOME BACK.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU

WITH US.

I'VE GOT A STORY FOR YOU

RIGHT NOW THAT WILL TOUCH

YOUR HEART.

MICHAEL SHAVUS HAD A

BOTTLE OF BOOZE IN HIS

HAND, AND THE LIQUOR TO

SIX OR SO DRINKS IN HIS

SYSTEM.

HE ALSO HAD A NICE-SIZED

LIFE INSURANCE POLICY IN

THIS NAME, MEANING HE WAS

WORTH MORE DEAD THAN

ALIVE.

SO MICHAEL STARTED TO

HATCH A PLAN UNTIL HE

HEARD A VOICE THAT SAVED

HIS LIFE.

I HAD LET A LOT OF

PEOPLE DOWN.

I DISAPPOINTED A LOT OF

PEOPLE.

I FELT LIKE I WAS -- MY

LIFE WASN'T WORTH LIVING.

Reporter: AT 48,

MATTHEW WAS ABOUT TO LOSE

HIS BUSINESS AND HIS

MARRIAGE.

THE BOTTLE WAS HIS ONLY

COMFORT.

I WAS ADDICTED.

EVERY NIGHT, EVERY

WEEKEND, EVERY DAY.

Reporter: MATTHEW

GREW UP WITH LOVING

PARENTS WHO HAD STRICT

CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.

BOTH AT HOME AND AT

CHURCH, HE LEARNED THAT

ACCEPTANCE CAME BY DOING

WHAT WAS EXPECTED.

THAT INCLUDED GIVING HIS

LIFE TO JESUS AT 13.

WHEN YOU HAVE A

GENTLEMAN COMING UP TO YOU

AND SAY, IT'S TIME, SON,

YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR LIFE

TO CHRIST.

WELL, THEN, THAT'S WHAT I

DID.

Reporter: AS A

RESULT, HE NEVER

UNDERSTOOD GOD'S LOVE FOR

HIM.

I ALSO FELT LIKE GOD

WAS GOING TO PUNISH ME, OR

I WAS GOING TO BE PUNISHED

TO HELL, IF I DID THIS.

AND SO I FEARED GOD.

Reporter: ONE PLACE

HE DID FIND ACCEPTANCE WAS

THE PLAYING FIELD.

A STAR ATHLETE IN MIDDLE

AND HIGH SCHOOL, HE HAD

THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION

OF HIS TEAMMATES, COACHES,

AND FANS.

I WAS ON THE TOP OF THE

WORLD.

I HAD MY FRIENDS, AND I

HAD THESE GUYS I HAD GROWN

UP WITH AND WE WERE ALWAYS

PRACTICING, PLAYING.

I WAS A QUARTERBACK, A

POINT GUARD, A PITCHER, SO

I WAS AT THE CENTER OF

FOCUS THERE.

SO I HAD A GROUP OF GUYS

LISTEN TO ME CALL THE

PLAYS.

Reporter: HE HAD

HOPES OF PLAYING COLLEGE

BASKETBALL, BUT AFTER

SEVERELY BREAKING HIS

ANKLE IN HIGH SCHOOL, HE

NO LONGER HAD WHAT IT TOOK

TO PLAY AT THE HIGHER

LEVELS.

ONCE THAT WAS GONE, MY

SENSE OF WORTH WAS

COMPLETELY LOST WITHOUT

IT.

WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE.

I DIDN'T HAVE THAT, AND SO

I WAS COMPLETELY LOST.

AND SO I VENTURED OVER TO

THE CROWD WHERE THE BEER

KEGS WERE, YOU KNOW.

AND THEY HAD THE PRETTY

GIRLS.

SO I DRANK TO FIT IN.

IT WAS MORE OF BEING

ACCEPTED.

I COMPLETELY ABANDONED

GOD.

WHEN MY CONSCIENCE LEFT

ME, I FELT LIBERATED.

Reporter: MATTHEW

DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE

AFTER A YEAR AND SPENT THE

NEXT FOUR YEARS WORKING

VARIOUS JOBS, INCLUDING AS

A JANITOR.

ON THE WEEKENDS HE

PARTIED.

I HAD NO VALUE.

AND AT THAT TIME, HAVING

PUT GOD IN THE CLOSET LIKE

I HAD, IT WASN'T EVEN -- I

DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT

GETTING ON MY KNEES AND

CALLING UPON HIM.

I LEFT HIM.

WHY WOULD HE LOVE ME, AT

HIS POINT?

Reporter: TIRED OF

HIS LIFE GOING NOWHERE,

MATTHEW RETURNED TO SCHOOL

AND WENT ON TO BECOME A

CHIROPRACTOR.

HE ALSO MARRIED AND THAT

CHILDREN.

I WAS ON CLOUD NINE.

I WENT FROM THIS JANITOR

TO A CHIROPRACTIC

POSITION, AND I KNEW I DID

IT WITHOUT GOD.

MY SELF-WORTH STARTED

BUILDING WHEN I WAS ABLE

TO HELP SOMEONE.

AND SO HAVING ALL OF THIS

COME TO FRUITION WAS A BIG

BOOST TO MY EGO.

NOTHING WAS GOING TO BRING

ME DOWN.

Reporter: HE PRACTICE

FLOURISHED FOR YEARS UNTIL

THE ECONOMY NOSE-DIVED IN

2008.

YOU GO FROM SEEING 45

TO 50 PATIENTS A DO TO

SEEING 15 TO 20, YOU HIT

THE WALL HARD.

WITH THAT CAME DRINKING

MORE.

WITH THAT CAME MARITAL

PROBLEMS.

WIT Reporter: AS HEAVY

FINANCIAL STRESS TOOK ITS

TOLL ON HIS MARRIAGE,

MATTHEW FELT HURT AND

REJECTED.

SO HE SOUGHT COMFORT IN

EITHER WOMAN, VIA SOCIAL

MEDIA.

I WAS STILL IN A DARK

PLACE.

SHE WAS MEDICINE I NEEDED

TO HEAL SOME WOUNDS.

Reporter: WHEN THAT

RELATIONSHIP ENDED IN A

COUPLE OF YEARS, MATTHEW

FELT COMPLETELY ALONE.

ONE NIGHT IN MAY 2014, HE

WAS WATCHING BASEBALL

WHILE EMPTYING A BOTTLE OF

LIQUOR.

HE HAD REACHED THE END OF

HIMSELF, AND KNEW JUST THE

PERSON TO BLAME.

I WAS MAD AT GOD FOR

LETTING MY LIFE GET TO THE

POINT WHERE I DIDN'T FEEL

I HAD ANY WORTH AT ALL AND

MY LIFE WASN'T WORTH

LIVING.

AS CLEAR AS YOU HEAR MY

VOICE, HE SAID, HOW CAN I

HELP YOU WHEN YOU CONTINUE

TO IGNORE ME.

I RECOGNIZED IT WAS GOD.

HE TOUCHED ME IN A WAY I

HAD NEVER -- I CAN'T

EXPLAIN THE FEELING THAT

CAME OVER ME.

Reporter: HE SAID HE

NOTICED A BOOK ON THE

TABLE THAT SEEMED TO GLOW.

IT WAS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO

HAD STRUGGLED IN LIFE AND

FOUND GOD TO BE THEIR

ANSWER.

AS HE STARTED READING, HE

DISCOVERED THAT ALL THIS

TIME GOD WAS THERE AND

TRULY LOVED HIM.

EVERY PORE IN MY BODY

FELT LIKE TEARS WERE

COMING OUT.

I WAS BEING CLEANSED AS I

WAS READING THIS BOOK.

I IMMEDIATELY GAVE MY LIFE

TO CHRIST.

FORGIVE ME OF ALL OF MY

SINS, LORD.

I KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN

DOING ALL THESE YEARS IS

WRONG.

AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT

YOU CHOSE ME, NOT TO LEAVE

ME, AS I THOUGHT YOU HAD.

Reporter: MATTHEW

STOPPED DRINKING AND BEGAN

GOING TO CHURCH WITH A

FRIEND, WHERE HE FELT LIKE

PART OF A TEAM AGAIN.

WE WERE ALL WORKING FOR

THE SAME PURPOSE, AND THAT

WAS JESUS CHRIST TO BE AT

THE FRONT AND CENTER OF

OUR LIVES.

Reporter: IN TIME HIS

BUSINESS PICKED UP AGAIN.

THOUGH DISAPPOINTED THAT

HIS MARRIAGE ENDED,

MATTHEW REMAINS CLOSE TO

HIS FOUR SONS.

HE IS NOW ABLE TO SEE

HIMSELF MORE AS GOD DOES,

AND WROTE A BOOK ABOUT HIS

JOURNEY.

HE DOES LOVE ME.

HE NEVER LEFT ME.

I LEFT HIM.

SO I FEEL I'M A BRAND NEW

MAN.

Pat: YOU KNOW, HOW

CAN I HELP YOU IF YOU

IGNORE ME?

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

GOD OF THE UNIVERSE.

UNIVERSE, THE

CREATOR OF ALL THINGS.

HE CARES ABOUT YOU AND ME.

IT'S AMAZING.

I'LL TELL YOU, WITH GOD,

ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

THERE IS NOTHING

IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM.

AND WHAT YOU NEED TO

UNDERSTAND IS HOWEVER DARK

YOUR SITUATION IS, GOD

ALMIGHTY HAS THE ANSWER.

AND HE IS THE ANSWER.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEAR

THE FUTURE BECAUSE HE IS

THE FUTURE.

HE DOESN'T JUST HOLD THE

FUTURE, HE IS THE FUTURE.

WHEN YOU STEP OUT INTO THE

FUTURE, YOU STEP OUT INTO

GOD.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

HE NEVER LEAVES YOU.

HE HOLDS YOU IN HIS HAND,

AND HE LOVES YOU.

AND MATTHEW LEARNED THOSE

THINGS.

YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING,

TOO.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW

HIM?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW A

LOVING FATHER?

WHY DON'T YOU LET ME HELP

YOU RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A

LITTLE TIP AND HELP YOU

ALONG THE WAY, IF YOU JUST

LET ME.

I DON'T WANT TO GET ANY

MONEY FROM YOU.

I DON'T WANT ANYTHING.

ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO

IS LET ME HELP YOU.

OKAY?

NOW, I'M GOING TO LEAD YOU

IN A PRAYER, A VERY SIMPLE

PRAYER.

AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW

THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHTY,

I WANT YOU TO PRAY WITH ME

RIGHT NOW.

JUST BOW YOUR HEAD AND

PRAY THESE WORDS.

AND AS I SAY THEM, YOU SAY

THEM AND THEN MEAN THEM IN

YOUR HEART, ALL RIGHT?

DO IT.

LET ME HELP YOU DO IT

RIGHT NOW.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, SAY

HIS NAME.

MEAN IT IN YOUR HEART.

JESUS, YOU KNOW I'M A

SINNER, AND YOU KNOW I

HAVEN'T LIVED FOR YOU.

YES, I HAVE IGNORED YOU,

AND I'M SORRY LORD.

AND RIGHT NOW I ASK YOU TO

PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR ALL

OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE

DONE NOW.

I TAKE NOW, LORD, AS THE

ONE WHO DIED FOR MY SINS.

AS MY SAVIOR, I MAKE YOU

THE LORD OF MY LIFE.

COME NOW, LORD, INTO MY

LIFE.

AND I WILL LIVE FOR YOU

AND I WILL SERVE YOU ALL

OF THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AND FOR THOSE WHO PRAYED

WITH ME, I WANT TO PRAY

FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME,

FOR THOSE WHO PRAYED THAT

PRAYER, MAY THE ANOINTING

OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COME

UPON THEM.

MAY THEY BE TOUCHED BY

YOUR POWER IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I

WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING, THIS LITTLE

PAMPHLET, THIS LITTLE

BOOK.

IT HAS HERE A COMPACT

DISC, A C.D.

IT HAS SOME TREMENDOUS

TEACHING.

IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO

DO NEXT.

HERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

IT IS REAL SIMPLE.

I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU

FREE.

AND ALONG WITH IT THERE IS

A LITTLE BOOKLET WITH THE

SCRIPTURES INVOLVED.

AND YOU SAY, THIS IS SO

SIMPLE.

WELL, IT WILL GIVE YOU A

GUIDE PATH AS TO WHAT TO

DO NEXT.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL

AND SAY, LOOK, I PRAYED

WITH PAT.

I HAVE GIVEN MY HEART TO

THE LORD.

AND RIGHT NOW I WANT YOU

TO KNOW.

IT IS 1-800-700-7000.

WE'RE HERE.

JUST SAY, LOOK, I PRAYED,

AND PLEASE SEND ME THIS,

THE LITTLE BOOKLET THAT

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

TERRY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

FINDING THE LORD.

Terry: I PRAY THAT IS

SO, PAT.

PLEASE CALL.

STILL TO COME, WE HAVE

YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

MARIE ASKS, "WERE SATAN

AND HIS FOLLOWERS CAST OUT

OF HEAVEN PRIOR TO THE

CREATION OF THE WORLD?

AND IF SO, WHERE WHERE WERE THEY

CAST?"

GET READY FOR ANOTHER

ROUND OF HO "YOUR QUESTIONS;

Terry: PAT, MARIE

ASKS, "WERE SATAN AND HIS

FOLLOWERS CAST OUT OF

HEAVEN PRIOR TO THE

CREATION OF THE WORLD?

AND IF SO, WHERE WERE THEY

CAST?"

Pat: I DON'T KNOW IF

IT WAS PRIOR.

WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

THE WHOLE THING ABOUT -- I

WANT TO SAY THE FIRST SIN

WAS PRIDE.

AND SATAN SAID, I CAN DO A

BETTER JOB OF RUNNING THE

UNIVERSE THAN GOD CAN.

AND THAT'S THE ROOT OF ALL

SIN.

AND THEN THE BIBLE TELLS

US HE TOOK A THIRD OF THE

ANGELS, BUT THEY WERE

SWEPT OUT OF HEAVEN.

AT WHAT TIME DOES ALL OF

THIS HAPPEN?

I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE

BIBLE ISN'T CLEAR ABOUT

THAT.

AND SO YOU'RE SPECULATING

ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS

NOT NECESSARY TO.

Terry: WE'RE NOT

MEANT TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF

IT.

Pat: WHERE DID HE GO?

WELL, THE UNIVERSE IS

HUGE?

THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM.

Terry: THIS IS

JEANNIE WHO SAYS, "MY

HUSBAND HAS BEEN INTO PORN

AND HE HAS HAD FEELINGS

FOR A CO-WORKER FOR OVER

SEVEN YEARS.

WE DON'T TRUST EACH OTHER.

THERE IS LITTLE INTIMACY

BETWEEN US.

I FAILED US AND HAD AN

AFFAIR.

SHOULD I END MY MARRIAGE?"

Pat: IT LOOKS LIKE

YOU HAVE ALREADY ENDED IT.

ADULTERY BREAKS THE BOND.

YOUR HUSBAND IS CARRYING

ON A TYPE OF ADULTERY BY

WATCHING PORNOGRAPHY AND

HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A

FELLOW WORKER.

SO SHOULD YOU END IT?

I THINK IT IS ALREADY

ENDED.

SO DO YOU HAVE SCRIPTURAL

GROUNDS?

THE ANSWER IS YES.

GOD HATES DIVORCE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN.

BUT, YOU KNOW...UNTIL

DEATH DO US PART.

WHEN YOU DEPART, THERE IS

A DEATH.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

2 CORINTHIANS: "FOR NO

MATTER HOW MANY PROMISES

GOD HAS MADE, THEY ARE YES

IN CHRIST."

> TOMORROW, THE ONE

REFUGEE BEING KICKED OUT

OF SWEDEN, AND SURPRISE,

SHE HAPPENS TO BE A

CHRISTIAN.

WE'VE GOT AN EXCLUSIVE ON

THAT ON WEDNESDAY'S SHOW.

WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.

BYE-BYE.

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