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The 700 Club - March 27, 2018

The investigative journalist who wrote, “The Case for Christ,” is on a new assignment. Hear Lee Strobel make, “The Case for Miracles.” Plus, a dedicated atheist starts to examine her own beliefs and comes face-to-face with a truth she ... Read Transcript


Wendy: THE FOLLOWING

PROGRAM IS SPONSORED BY

CBN.

Gordon: COMING UP,

THE INVESTIGATIVE

JOURNALIST WHO WROTE "THE

CASE FOR CHRIST" IS NOW ON

A NEW ASSIGNMENT.

NOW HEAR LEE STROBEL MAKE

THE CASE FOR MIRACLES.

> THEN, A DEDICATED

ATHEIST --

I'M NOT GOING TO FIGHT

THIS ANYMORE.

Gordon: -- WHO

STARTED TO EXAMINE HER OWN

BELIEFS.

COMES FACE TO FACE WITH

THE TRUTH SHE COULDN'T

DENY.

I WAS, LIKE, WHAT DO I

BELIEVE.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

> WELL, WELCOME TO "THE

700 CLUB."

THE Facebook SCANDAL IS

TAKING ITS TOLL ON ITS

FOUNDER AND ITS STOCK

PRICE.

C.E.O. MARK ZUCKERBERG HAS

SEEN HIS PERSONAL NET

WORTH PLUMMET BY

$10 BILLION, AS THE STOCK

HAS DROPPED.

Terry: OUCH.

THE SOCIAL NETWORK GIANT

HAS COME UNDER FIRE FOR

NOT PROTECTING THE PRIVACY

OF ITS USERS, AND NOW THE

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT,

PLUS 37 STATES, WANT

ANSWERS.

CHARLENE AARON HAS THIS

STORY.

Charlene: Facebook

IS BEING ROCKED BY CLAIMS

THAT YOUR PRIVACY AND

PERSONAL DATE ARE UP FOR

GRABS.

THE FEDERAL TRADE

COMMISSION IS NOW

INVESTIGATING THE SOCIAL

MEDIA GIANT, FOLLOWING A

WEEK OF PRIVACY SCANDALS,

INCLUDING WHETHER THE

COMPANY ENGAGED IN UNFAIR

ACTS THAT CAUSED

SUBSTANTIAL INJURY TO

CONSUMERS.

37 STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL

ARE ALSO SEEKING ANSWERS

ON HOW Facebook

MONITORED WHAT APP

DEVELOPERS DID WITH DATA

COLLECTED ON Facebook

USERS, AND WHETHER

Facebook HAD SAFEGUARDS

TO PREVENT MISUSE.

THE STATE ATTORNEY OF COOK

COUNTY IN ILLINOIS HAS

FILED SUIT AGAINST

Facebook AND CAMBRIDGE

ANALYTICA FOR CONSUMER

FRAUD.

THIS IS A MAJOR BREACH

OF TRUST, AND I'M REALLY

SORRY THAT THIS HAPPENED.

Charlene: CAMBRIDGE

ANALYTICA IS ACCUSED OF

LIFTING DATA FROM SOME

50 MILLION Facebook

USERS TO INFLUENCE VOTERS

IN THE 2016 ELECTIONS.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY NOW

IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS

DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

Charlene: THE SCANDAL

HAS EXPOSED THE LAX

SAFEGUARDS AT Facebook.

APP DEVELOPERS ALLEGEDLY

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A LACK

OF PRIVACY PROTECTIONS TO

SNAG PERSONAL DATA FROM

TENS OF MILLIONS OF

Facebook USERS AND USE

THAT INFO FOR POLITICS.

BILLIONS OF USERS ARE

STARTING TO DISCOVER WHAT

CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE WITH

DATE THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT

INNOCUOUS, LIKE BABY

PICTURES AND LIKES OF

ARTICLES THEY'VE READ

SOMEWHERE ON THE INTERNET.

Marisa: O Charlene: ON

MOVEMENT, Facebook WAS

HIT BY ANOTHER

CONTROVERSY, AT

REVELATIONS THEY HAVE BEEN

STORING TONS OF CONTACT

INFORMATION OF ANDROID

USERS.

THE COMPANY ACKNOWLEDGES

IN 2015, IT BEGAN

UPLOADING CALL AND TEXT

LOGS FROM PHONES RUNNING

GOOGLE'S ANDROID SYSTEM

THROUGH ITS MESSENGER APP

AND LATER THROUGH

Facebook LIGHT.

THE FALLOUT INVOLVING

Facebook HAS MANY,

INCLUDING APPLE'S TIM

COOK, CALLING FOR NEW

PRIVACY LAWS.

WHAT I HEARD WAS A SET

OF ASPIRATIONS AND A

DESIRE TO EARN BACK THE

TRUST OF ITS USERS.

WHAT IS PROBLEMATIC ABOUT

THAT IS THAT Facebook

REALLY HASN'T CHANGED ITS

BUSINESS MODEL SINCE ITS

INCEPTION, WHICH IS, IT

HARVESTS THE DATE OF ITS

USERS AND SELLS THAT DATA

TO AVERTISERS, OR IN THIS

CASE, TO AN ACADEMIC

RESEARCHER IN ENGLAND, WHO

USED IT AND SOLD TO

CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA.

Charlene: MEANWHILE,

AFTER WORD OF THE F.C.C.

INVESTIGATION, Facebook

STOCK HAS PLUMMETTED BY

MORE THAN $70 BILLION.

CHARLENE AARON, CBN NEWS.

Gordon: THE STORY HAS

A LOT OF RAMIFICATIONS.

IF YOU'VE EVER USED

Facebook TO SIGN IN TO

ANOTHER APP, DID YOU

REALIZE THAT YOU WERE

SHARING ALL OF YOUR

Facebook INFORMATION

WERE THAT APP DEVELOPER?

AND THEN IF YOU'RE AN

ANDROID CHROME USERS, DO

YOU REALLY WANT THE

METADATA ON ALL OF YOUR

TEXTS, ALL OF YOUR PHONE

CALLS -- SO WHO YOU YOU

CALLED, HOW LONG YOU

TALKED -- ALL WITHIN YOUR

Facebook PROFILE?

THESE ARE PRIVACY ISSUES,

AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT,

THERE WASN'T FULL

DISCLOSURE ON WHAT

Facebook WAS GOING TO DO

WITH THE DATA OR HOW IT

WAS GOING TO USE THE DATA.

QUITE CLEARLY, THERE IS A

PROFILE, AND THEY'RE

SELLING THAT INFORMATION

TO AVERTISERS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG

YEAR FOR Facebook, IN MY

OPINION, AND WE'RE GOING

TO SEE MORE OF THIS

HASHTAG DELETE Facebook.

> AND OTHER NEWS, RUSSIA

IS FACING A GLOBAL

CRACKDOWN FOR ITS BAD

BEHAVIOR.

JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE ON

THAT STORY FROM OUR NEWS

BUREAU IN WASHINGTON.

John: PRESIDENT TRUMP

IS KICKING OUT 60 RUSSIAN

DIPLOMATS FROM THE UNITED

STATES AFTER A NERVE GAS

ATTACK IN THE UNITED

KINGDOM.

THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THE

OUSTED RUSSIANS ARE ALL

SPIES.

THE U.S. ALSO CLOSED THE

RUSSIAN CONSULATE IN

SEATTLE, WHICH WAS DEEMED

A COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE

THREAT.

THE ABILITY OF RUSSIA

TO SPY ON AMERICANS AND

CONDUCT COVERT ACTIVITIES

THAT THREATEN AMERICA'S

NATIONAL SECURITY...

ABOUT 20 WESTERN

COUNTRIES HAVE EXPELLED

MORE THAN 120 RUSSIAN

DIPLOMATS, WHICH INCLUDES

NEARLY TWO DOZEN IN THE

UNITED KINGDOM.

THEY PUNISHING MOSCOW FOR

THE ALLEGED POISONING OF A

FORMER RUSSIAN SPY AND HIS

DAUGHTER.

> THE F.B.I. IS

INVESTIGATING THE DELIVERY

OF SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES

SENT TO THE MILITARY AND

INTELLIGENCE FACILITIES

HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

HALF A DOZEN PACKAGES WERE

SHIPPED THROUGH THE MAIL.

THEY ALL CONTAINED

EXPLOSIVE COMPONENTS.

FORTUNATELY, NO ONE WAS

HURT.

EACH OF THE PACKAGES HAS

BEEN COLLECTED FOR FURTHER

ANALYSIS.

> A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR

HAS BEEN KILLED IN PARIS

IN AN EVIDENT

ANTI-SEMITISM MURDER.

THE POLICE HAVE ARRESTED A

NEIGHBOR AND A HOMELESS

MAN IN THE CASE.

LAST YEAR A SIMILAR ATTACK

TOOK PLACE.

> TURKEY IS PARTNERING

WITH ISLAMIC JIHADISTS TO

CONQUER SYRIA.

NOW CHRISTIANS FROM THE

TOWN OF AFRIN ARE RUNNING

FOR THEIR LIVES, CHASED

DOWN BY BLOOD THIRTY

TERRORISTS.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS THEIR

STORY.

Chris: AS THE BATTLE

OVER AFRIN GREW CLOSER TO

THE CITY, MANY CHRISTIANS

FOUND THEMSELVES IN GRAVE

DANGER.

THIS IS A CHURCH SERVICE

OF THE CHRISTIANS CRYING

OUT TO GOD FOR

DELIVERANCE, AS TURKISH

AND ISLAMIC FORCES DROVE

TOWARDS AFRIN.

CHARMAINE HEADING, OF

HELPING THE PERSECUTED

CHURCH IN THE MIDDLE EAST,

KEPT IN CHURCH WITH MANY

OF THESE CHRISTIANS.

A LOT OF INFORMATION

WAS COMING TO THEM THAT

WHEN THESE DIFFERENT CAME

AND SUPPORTED THIS RADICAL

ISLAMIC IDEOLOGY, THAT

WERE SEEN WITH ISIS AND

al-QAEDA, THAT THEY WOULD

BEHEAD THE CHRISTIANS AND

THEY WOULD KILL THEM.

AND BECAUSE OF MANY OF

THESE CHRISTIANS WERE

ORIGINALLY MUSLIM

BACKGROUND BELIEVERS, THEY

WERE PARTICULARLY GOING TO

BE TARGETED.

Chris: CBN NEWS

LEARNED OF AN ADDED

DANGER, JIHADISTS BROKE

INTO THE CHURCH, FOUND

PICTURES OF SOME

BELIEVERS, AND ARE

DISTRIBUTING THEM AND

HUNTING THEM DOWN DOOR TO

DOOR.

THEY SAY OUR SITUATION

IS VERY DANGEROUS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

BECAUSE THEY FOUND PHOTOS

IN THE CHURCH BUILDINGS,

AND THEY'RE SEARCHING FOR

THE BELIEVERS NOW IN

AFRIN.

SO THE MAN IS CRYING.

HE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

Chris: HE SAYS MOST

OF THE CHRISTIAN FAMILIES

HAVE FOUND SAFE HAVEN, BUT

SAYS THE CHURCH IN THE

WEST NEEDS TO PRAY FOR ITS

FELLOW BELIEVERS IN

DISTRESS.

THEY SHOULD PRAY FOR

THEIR SAFETY.

THEY SHOULD PRAY THAT

THESE FAMILIES WILL BE

ABLE TO STAY TOGETHER

BECAUSE IN THESE

CHRONICALLY DESPERATE

SITUATIONS, WHERE MASSES

OF PEOPLE ARE FLEEING,

FAMILIES CAN GET LOST, AND

LITTLE ONES CAN GET HURT.

SO WE NEED TO PRAY FOR

THESE FAMILIES, THAT

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO STAY

TOGETHER.

Chris: CAMAL SETO OF

THE SOCIETY FOR THREATENED

PEOPLES TOLD CBN NEWS THE

WEST NEEDS TO HELP.

THE U.S.A. AND

CHRISTIANS HAVE TO HELP

CHRISTIANS IN TURKEY,

IRAQ, AND IRAN.

IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT

TO SUPPORT KURDISH PEOPLE

IN THIS SITUATION, TO

PROTECT KURDS, BECAUSE WE

NEED KURDS AS ALLIES IN

THE FIGHTING AGAINST

RADICAL IDEAS IN THE

MIDDLE EAST.

Chris: HEADING SAYS

WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN

AFRIN IS ETHNIC CLEANSING

ON A MASSIVE SCALE.

WE'VE KNOW SOMEWHAT THE

STATEMENTS THAT THEY'VE

MADE, THAT THEY WANT TO

GET RID OF THE PEOPLE IN

THIS AREA AND BRING IN

OTHER PEOPLE FROM SYRIA.

IT IS POPULATION

DISPLACEMENT.

Chris: FOLLOWING THE

BATTLE OVER AFRIN, MANY

MIDDLE EAST OBSERVERS FEEL

TURKEY AND THESE ISLAMIC

GROUPS WILL CONTINUE TO

EXPAND AND TRY TO CONQUER

MORE TERRITORY.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

John: THANKS, CHRIS.

GORDON, AS CHRIS JUST

SAID, PRAYERS ARE NEEDED

FOR THE CHRISTIANS IN

AFRIN.

Gordon: AND WE NEED

TO BE AWARE OF THE RISE OF

TURKEY RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE BEEN REPORTING ON

SEVERAL STORIES THAT ARE

VERY DISTURBING ABOUT AN

INCREASE IN THEIR DESIRE

TO RESUME THE OTTOMAN

EMPIRE, TO RESUME THE

CALIPHATE, TO BE THE HEAD

OF ALL OF THAT, AND TO GO

BACK TO THE BORDERS AND

HOW THEY WERE BEFORE WORLD

WAR I.

AND IF THAT'S THEIR STATED

GOAL -- THEY'VE TALKED

ABOUT RAISING AN ISLAMIC

ARMY TO ATTACK ISRAEL.

WHAT HAPPENED IN TURKEY

AFTER WORLD WAR I, AN

ETHNIC CLEANSING OF

MONUMENTAL PROPORTIONS,

WHERE THEY EITHER KILLED

OR KICKED OUT EVERY SINGLE

CHRISTIAN IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THEN YOU ADD TO THAT,

BEFORE WORLD WAR I, THE

ARMENIAN MASSACRES, THE

GENOCIDE OF ARMENIA.

WHEN THIS GETS UNLEASHED

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE

PREPARED FOR IT.

BUT WILL WE RESPOND TO IT?

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE

QUESTION.

AND ARE WE GOING TO

RESPOND NOW WITH PRAYERS?

BUT FROM A DIPLOMATIC

STANDPOINT, TURKEY IS AN

ANCHOR COUNTRY IN THE NATO

ALLIANCE.

IF THEY CONTINUE DOWN THIS

PATH, WHAT WILL NATO DO?

TERRY?

Terry: WELL,ALITY

YEARWELL, EIGHTYEARS AFTER AN EARTHQUAKE

DEVASTATED HAITI, ONE MAN

IS ON A MISSION TO HELP

THE NATION REBUILD.

BUT FIRST HE HAS TO TEACH

THEM HOW TO BUILD.

WE HAVE TO BUILD A

CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND

INVEST IN THE WORKERS.

Terry: HEAR HOW THIS

COMPANY IS ALSO REBUILDING

LIVES, WHEN WE RETURN.

Gordon: THE COUNTRY

Gordon: THE COUNTRY

OF HAITI HAS BEEN WRECKED

BY EARTHQUAKES,

HURRICANES, AND RAMPANT

POVERTY.

STILL, THERE ARE SOME WHO

HOLD OUT HOPE FOR THE

ISLAND NATION.

ERIK ROSALES SHOWS US HOW

ONE MAN IS WORKING TO

BRING THE GOSPEL TO HAITI

AND EMPOWER ITS PEOPLE TO

REBUILD.

Reporter: IT HAS BEEN

MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS

SINCE THE COUNTRY OF HAITI

WAS HIT BY A 7.0 MAGNITUDE

EARTHQUAKE, AND DESPITE

BILLIONS IN HUMANITARIAN

AID, CORRUPTION HAS FORCED

MUCH OF THE COUNTRY TO

CONTINUE TO LIVE IN

DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS.

AND WHILE ORGANIZATIONS

WORK TO TREAT THE

CONSEQUENCES OF EXTREME

POVERTY, THEY AREN'T

PROVIDED SOLUTIONS TO

REDUCE HAITI'S DE DEE DEE DEPENDENCY

ON FOREIGN AID.

ONE MAN WANTS TO CHANGE

THAT.

IT IS ONE OF THE MOST

DIFFICULT, FRUSTRATING,

REWARDING THINGS I'VE EVER

DONE.

I THINK FOR ME, BECAUSE OF

MY PERSONALITY, THE

FRUSTRATION IS I WANT

THINGS TO MOVE FASTER AND

STUFF, AND I LOVE BUILDING

THINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO

INVEST IN THE PEOPLE

FIRST.

Reporter: SHERMAN

BULGE, A CONTRACTOR, FIRST

CAME HERE MONTHS AFTER THE

EARTHQUAKE.

HE AND HIS WIFE, CHERYL,

WERE STRUCK BY HOW POOR

CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS

CONTRIBUTED TO SO MUCH OF

THE DEVASTATION.

MY HUSBAND BEING A

BUILDER, WE THOUGHT, LET'S

GO HELP REBUILD.

BUT THEN IT BECAME EVIDENT

THERE WERE MANY HAITIANS

WHO WERE NOT WORKING,

DIDN'T HAVE HOPE IN THEIR

DAILY LIVES, SO WHY NOT

TEACH THEM HOW TO BUILD

PROPERLY?

Reporter: THAT

DESIRE, COMBINED WITH HELP

FROM THEIR LOCAL CHURCH,

HELPED CREATE "ESTOLO,"

WHICH MEANS RAISE UP IN

LATIN.

THEY STARTED BY USING

HAITIAN WORKERS TO HELPED

BUILD SEVERAL ORPHANAGES.

WE HAVE TO BUILD A

CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND

INVEST IN THE WORKERS.

WE USE THE APPRENTICESHIP

METHOD BY EARNING AND

LEARNING AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING

FOR JOBS, BUT I DIDN'T

HAVE ANY SKILL.

BUT I'D BEEN LOOKING FOR

SOMEONE TO TEACH ME HOW TO

DO THINGS.

Reporter: AS PART OF

THE ORPHANAGE CONSTRUCTION

CREW, ALTO LEARNED BASIC

MASONRY, CARPENTRY, AND

PLUMBING SKILLS.

THE COUPLE IS QUICK TO ADD

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT

LEARNING A TRADE.

IT IS ALSO ABOUT LEARNING

ABOUT GOD AND LIVING A

LIFE LIKE JESUS.

PART OF THE TRAINING

INCLUDES LEADERSHIP

CLASSES FOR THE

APPRENTICES.

STEVE MADSON TALKED ABOUT

LIVING A LIFE OF INTEGRITY

AND RESPECT.

AFTER A QUICK FLIGHT TO

LOGANOF, A SMALL ISLAND

ABOUT 50 MILES FROM

PORT-AU-PRINCE AND A WHITE

KNUCKLE LANDING ON A DIRT

RUNWAY, WE SAW THE JESUS

HOME FOR CHILDREN VILLAGE,

PROVIDING A NEW LIFE FOR

MORE THAN 150 ORPHANS.

"ESTOLO" HAS BUILT A

BEAUTIFUL VILLAGE FOR THE

KIDS.

IT IS MORE THAN I COULD

ASK FOR.

GOD HAS ANSWERED OUR

PRAYERS.

Reporter: YOU CAN SEE

THIS PATIO, AND THIS IS

WHERE THE KIDS HAVE THEIR

SUNDAY SERVICE.

AROUND THE COURTYARD ARE

10 HOMES, INSIDE EACH

HOME, ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO

15 KIDS.

AND EACH HOME HAS A HOME

MOM.

SHE WANTS TO HAVE THE KIDS

INTERACT WITH THEIR HOME

MOM AND ALSO EACH OTHER,

AND THIS WAY THEY'LL GROW

IN SPIRIT.

YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT,

BUT MORE THAN HALF OF THE

PEOPLE HERE LIVE ON LESS

THAN $2 A DAY.

SOME 70% ARE UNDEREMPLOYED

OR SIMPLY HAVE NO JOB.

MOST CAN'T AFFORD EVEN

BASIC HOUSING, SO PARENTS

OFTEN GIVE UP THEIR KIDS.

TO HELP KEEP FAMILIES

TOGETHER, MADAM SOLLY

OPENS HER DOORS DAILY HO

GIVE THEM MEALS.

SHE SAYS, I WANT TO

RAISE THIS KIDS UP TO LOVE

THE LORD AND NOT ADOPT

THEM OUT, BUT TO BE THE

CHANGE IN OUR COUNTRY, TO

THE LEADERS.

Reporter: LEADERS

LIKE JOHN BOUTIST, WHO IS

BUILDING HIS OWN HOME,

HELPING NEIGHBORS WITH

REPAIRS, AND PROVIDING FOR

HIS FAMILY.

WHEN I MET "ESTOLO,"

EVERY MORNING PEOPLE

STARTED TO PRAY, TALKING

ABOUT GOD, AND USING THE

BIBLE.

Reporter: MORE

IMPORTANTLY, HE HAS

ACCEPTED THE LORD AND NOW

LEADS BIBLE CLASSES.

HHIS DREAM IS TO CREATE

BUILDINGS TO WITHSTAND ANY

FUTURE QUACKS, AND TO

PROVIDE FOR HAITIANS.

THE LORD HAS BLESSED

US, AND WE, IN TURN, WANT

TO BE A BLESSING TO THE

PEOPLE OF HAITI.

Reporter: "ESTOLO"

OFFICIALS ARE BUILDING THE

NEXT GENERATION OF

CHRISTIAN LEADERS AND

BUILDERRINGBUILDERS, TO BRING

POSITIVE CHANGE TO THE

COUNTRY OF HAITI.

ERIK

Gordon: HAITI IS A

PRIME EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO

IN AND REBUILD, BUT YOU'RE

NOT FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE

AND BUILDING THE PEOPLE,

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO MISS.

HERE WE ARE EIGHT YEARS

LATER, AND THIS MINISTRY

HAS IT RIGHT.

HOW DO WE CHANGE THINGS?

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN

MORE ABOUT HOW THIS

MINISTRY IS HELPING THE

PEOPLE OF HAITI, YOU CAN

FIND THE LINK FOR ESTOLO

INTERNATIONAL AT

cbnnews.com.

LET ME JUST MAKE ANOTHER

COMMENT HERE: CULTURE

MATTERS.

I KNOW IT IS NOT

POLITICALLY CORRECT TO

SINGLE OUT A RELIGION, BUT

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A NATION

THAT HAS GIVEN OVER TO

VOO-DOO, AND YOU HEARD IT

IN THE STORY, MY RELATIVES

PRACTICE VOO-DOO, AND THEY

DO THIS EVERY DAY, AND BY

COMING HERE I LEARNED

ABOUT JESUS AND I LEARNED

ABOUT THE BIBLE.

I WAS GIVEN A BIBLE AND WE

PRAY EVERY DAY, AND I'M

NOTICING A DIFFERENCE --

WELL, TAKE A LOOK AT A

MAP.

GO LOOK AT HAITI AND THEN

LOOK NEXT DOOR.

SAME ISLAND, SAME NATURAL

RESOURCES, BUT THE

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS SO

MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HAITI.

THE STANDARD OF LIVING IS

SO DIFFERENT AND IT IS

BECAUSE IT IS NOT GIVEN

OVER TO VOO-DOO.

WE'VE GOT TO REALIZE IT.

IN WHAT WE DO, HOW WE

DELIVER INTERNATIONAL AID,

HOW WE HELP PEOPLE, THE

VERY FIRST THING YOU HAVE

TO DO IS BUILD THE

INDIVIDUAL.

THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS

TO LET THEM KNOW THEY'RE A

CHILD OF GOD.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORSHIP

DEMONS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN

THIS SUPERSTITIOUS WORLD.

THEY CAN WALK FREE OF ALL

OF THAT.

IT REALLY DOES MATTER.

AND THE GOSPEL REALLY

MATTERS.

YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF

WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

IT WAS BUILT ON THE

GOSPEL.

AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE

THAT.

TERRY?

Terry: AMEN.

> WELL, COMING UP, AN

ATHEIST SHARES THE MOMENT

SHE RENOUNCED HER BELIEF

IN GOD, AND IT WASN'T WHAT

SHE WAS EXPECTING.

I REMEMBER THE MOMENT

THAT I REALLY THOUGHT

MAYBE THIS ISN'T TRUE.

IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY HAD

DIED.

IT WAS LIKE A DARKNESS HAD

GONE OVER ME.

Terry: FIND OUT WHAT

BROUGHT HER BACK TO THE

FAITH, WHEN WE COME BACK.

Terry: VERONICA

FANCIED HERSELF AS AN

INTELLECTUAL, AND SHE

COULDN'T WRAP HER MIND

AROUND HOW A SUPPOSED

AWESOME GOD COULD ALLOW

CERTAIN THINGS.

SO SHE WENT ON A QUEST FOR

DISCOVERY, AND HERE IS HOW

SHE FOUND THE TRUTH SHE

HAD ALWAYS BEEN LOOKING

FOR.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED

ORCHESTRA.

WE'RE PLAYING BAI BEETHOVEN.

PEOPLE ADMIRED BY MUSIC,

MY TALENT.

Reporter: SHE GREW UP

IN A LOVING FAMILY IN SAN

FRANCISCO.

BOTH HER MOM AND DAD WERE

PASTORS, SO FAITH AND

CHURCH WERE THE CENTER OF

THEIR LIVES.

MY DAD IS VERY

THEOLOGY, PHILOSOPHICALLY

SO, SO ANY QUESTIONS WE

ASKED, HE WAS NEVER

INTIMIDATED.

AND MOM ADDED THIS ELEMENT

OF WONDER TO OUR BELIEF.

GOD IS INFUSED IN WHO WE

ARE, AND HE ALLOWS US TO

BE WHO WE WANT TO BE.

Reporter: BUT AT 12

YEARS OLD, VERONICA WOULD

QUESTION EVERYTHING SHE

HAD BEEN TAUGHT.

A SPLIT IN THEIR CHURCH

COMPELLED THEIR PARENTS TO

TAKE A SABBATICAL AND MOVE

TO CENTRAL CALIFORNIA.

FOR VERONICA, IT WAS

DEVASTATING TO REALIZE THE

CHURCH WASN'T PERFECT

AFTER ALL.

WHEN I WAS AROUND

BROKENNESS, IT WAS HARD TO

BE AROUND IT BECAUSE I

DIDN'T WANT TO BE SEEN AS

BROKEN AND WEAK.

I WANTED TO BE SOMEBODY

WHO COULD BE ADMIRED.

I'M JUST, LIKE, GOD, CAN

PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL IN

CHRISTIANITY?

Reporter: IT ALSO

AFFECTED HER VIEW OF GOD.

I STARTED TO GO, WAIT A

MINUTE.

WHY WOULD SOMEBODY SO

AWESOME ALLOW SO MUCH

DIVISION AND PAIN AND

EMOTIONAL TURMOIL?

Reporter: THE ONLY

IDENTITY SHE FELT SURE OF

WAS BEING A MUSICIAN.

AT 16 SHE ENROLLED IN

COLLEGE CLASSES AND JOINED

THE ORCHESTRA.

SHE STARTED MEETING PEOPLE

WITH DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.

MOST OF WHICH WERE OPPOSED

TO CHRISTIANITY.

NOT WANTING TO STAND OUT,

SHE KEPT HER BELIEFS TO

HERSELF.

MY SELF-CONFIDENCE WAS

DETERMINED BY HOW PEOPLE

THOUGHT OF ME.

IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME

TO BE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES

LIKE COLLEGE, WHERE THEY

MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE AN

IDIOT IF YOU BELIEVE THOSE

THINGS.

OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS

DEFINITELY STARTED

AFFECTING MY OWN.

AND WHEN I STARTED TO

COMPARE AND CONTRAST, I

WAS, LIKE, WHAT DO I

BELIEVE?

Reporter: EVEN MORE

INFLUENTIAL WAS A MAN SHE

MET 13 YEARS HER SENIOR.

HE WAS A MUSICIAN AND AN

OUTSPOKEN ATHEIST.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

I WAS, LIKE, WHAT IS IT

LIKE TO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD

OR NOT TO HAVE THESE

VALUES OR EXPECTATIONS

UPON YOURSELF, THAT YOU

YOU HAVE TO ACT A CERTAIN

WAY.

WHY DO I HAVE TO ACT A

CERTAIN WAY?

Reporter: THE TWO

STARTED DATING, DESPITE

HER PARENTS' STRONG

OBJECTIONS.

AT 18, SHE TOLD THEM SHE

WAS LEAVING.

I SAID, WELL, VERONICA,

IF YOU WALK AWAY, THAT'S

YOUR DECISION.

BUT WE'RE YOU'RE PARENTS.

WE LOVE YOU.

WE WILL NOT TOLERATE WHAT

IS GOING ON BETWEEN YOU

AND THIS GUY.

THAT SAME WEEK THAT SHE

WALKED AWAY, WE HAD A

MINISTERS' RETREAT, AND

THE PASTOR OF THAT

RETREAT, HIS FIRST -- HIS

MESSAGE WAS ABOUT HIS

DAUGHTER, A PRODIGAL.

AND SO THAT JUST TRIGGERED

TO ME THAT SHE HAS BECOME

A PRODIGAL.

Reporter: THAT SAME

YEAR VERONICA WENT TO UCLA

ON A MUSIC SCHOLARSHIP.

SHE SPENT THE NEXT THREE

YEARS PARTYING, PLAYING

MUSIC, AND SEARCHING FOR

THE TRUTH.

SHE HAD LITTLE CONTACT

WITH HER PARENTS, WHO

CONTINUED TO PRAY.

VERONICA'S NAME WAS FIRST

ON THE LIST WHEN THEIR

CHURCH STARTED A PRAYER

WALL.

I DEPENDED ON MY

FRIENDS THAT BELIEVED THAT

GOD WAS GOING TO BRING HER

BACK.

SO SOMETIMES I WOULD GET

REALLY WEAK.

I COULD TELL.

I'M, LIKE, OH, THIS IS

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND I'D GET SO TIRED.

Reporter: MEANWHILE,

VERONICA DESIRED THE ONLY

WAY TO QUIET THE BATTLE IN

HER MIND WAS TO DISMISS

HER CHRISTIAN FAITH.

I REMEMBERED THE MOMENT

THAT I REALLY THOUGHT

MAYBE THIS ISN'T TRUE.

IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY HAD

DIED.

IT WAS LIKE A DARKNESS HAD

GONE OVER ME.

AND I REALLY WISHED

THROUGH IT.

I THOUGHT, OKAY, I'M NOT

GOING TO FIGHT THIS

ANYMORE.

Reporter: AFTER

GRADUATION, SHE BROKE UP

WITH HER BOYFRIEND AND

TOOK A JOB AS A PRESCHOOL

TEACHER IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.

EXHAUSTEDEEXHAUSTED IRRITABLE MOST

OF THE TIME, HER ONLY WAY

TO RELAX WAS YOGA AND

SMOKING POT.

I DIDN'T HAVE MUSIC OR

INTELLECTUALISM ANYMORE.

I HAD THE PARTYING, BUT

THEN THAT WAS REALLY ROUGH

ON MY BODY, SO I DIDN'T

HAVE ANY ENERGY ANYMORE.

I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH

ELSE AT THAT POINT.

Reporter: ALSO LIVING

IN HOUSTON WAS HER OLDER

SISTER, WHO WORKED AT A

CRISIS PREGNANCY CENTER.

UNLIKE VERONICA, SHE HAD

HELD ON TO HER CHRISTIAN

FAITH AND HAD JOY IN HER

LIFE.

I STARTED TALKING TO

HER MORE, ASKING HER MORE

QUESTIONS, ASKING HER

ABOUT GOD.

AND THERE WAS JUST A DEPTH

THERE THAT STARTED PEAKING

MY INTEREST.

THIS IS MORE THAN WHAT I

HEARD OF.

THIS IS A DAILY WALK.

THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE

SHE IS GETTING REFRESHED

EVERY DAY.

Reporter: THEN IN

MARCH 2015, VERONICA WAS

IN A BAD CAR ACCIDENT BUT

WALKED AWAY WITH NO

INJURIES.

HER SISTER POINTED OUT

THAT GOD HAD PROTECTED HER

FOR A REASON.

AND THEN SHE LOOKED AT

ME SQUARE IN THE EYE.

AND SHE SAID, DO YOU THINK

IT WAS A COINCIDENCE THAT

YOU DIDN'T GET HURT IN

YOUR CAR ACCIDENT?

AND I REALIZED AT THAT

MOMENT THAT PEOPLE WERE

PRAYING FOR ME.

AND I WAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW,

I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE IT

A TRY.

IT WAS A VERY

NON-SPIRITUAL PRAYER.

I WAS JUST, LIKE, JESUS,

IF YOU'RE THERE, I GIVE MY

LIFE TO YOU.

I HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.

DO WITH IT WHAT YOU WANT.

Reporter: HER SISTER

GAVE HER A BOOK ABOUT

CHRISTIANITY, ATHEISM, AND

THE TRUTH ABOUT CREATION

IN GENESIS.

AND YOU START SEEING

THAT IT IS THE

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GOD

AND MAN, AND THE

REDEMPTION THAT IS THERE,

THAT YOU CANNOT FIND IN

DRUGS.

YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN

INTELLECTUALISM.

YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR

FRIENDSHIPS.

YOU CAN'T FIND IN YOUR

RELATIONSHIPS.

YOU CAN'T FIND IN YOUR

FAMILY.

YOU CAN'T FIND IN

YOURSELF.

IT WAS JUST A BIG MOMENT

FOR ME.

Reporter: WITH

RENEWED FAITH, SHE GREW IN

HER RELATIONSHIP WITH

CHRIST.

GOD SHOWED HER THAT HIS

PLAN IS BETTER THAN HER

DESIRE TO BE PART OF THE

CROWD.

GOD REALLY CHALLENGED

THAT AND SAID, NO, THAT'S

NOT WHAT IT IS ABOUT.

IT IS ABOUT YOU BEING YOU.

AND ALLOWING ME TO BE

GLORIFIED WITHIN WHO YOU

ARE BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I

CREATED YOU TO BE.

MY IDENTITY IS IN CHRIST

AND HOW HE HAS FORGIVEN

ME.

Reporter: WHEN THEY

LEARNED THEIR PRAYERS FOR

VERONICA HAD BEEN

ANSWERED, KENNY AND NICKY

SHARED THE GOOD NEWS WITH

THEIR CHURCH LEADER.

I SAID, WHAT DO WE DO

WITH THEIR NAMES ONCE OUR

PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED.

I WAS LIKE PRAISE THE

LORD, VERONICA IS BETTER.

SO WE PUT VERONICA ON THE

VERY TOP.

THE FIRST NAME THAT SHE

HAD COME BACK TO THE LORD.

Reporter: VERONICA

MARRIED IN 2018, AND USES

HER PASSION FOR MUSIC AS A

WORSHIP LEADER IN

CHILDREN'S MINISTRY.

SHE KNOWS HER TRUE

IDENTITY AND JOY COME

THROUGH CHRIST.

HE CREATED ME FOR A

PURPOSE.

I'M HERE BECAUSE HE LOVES

ME.

I HAVE A WALK THAT I'M ON

AND A JOURNEY TO BE

FINISHED FAITHFULLY.

I'M WAITING FOR THAT DAY

WHEN HE SAYS, WELL-DONE,

GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT.

HELP ME TO BE A GOOD AND

FAITHFUL SERVANT.

Terry: YOU KNOW, IT'S

NOT AN EASY THING TO

FOLLOW JESUS.

BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AN

EASY THING TO TRY TO MAKE

IT OUT THERE IN THE WORLD.

YOU KNOW, THE VOICES ARE

LOUD.

WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHO

YOU ARE -- AND LOTS OF

PEOPLE DON'T, WHETHER

THEY'RE 16 OR 60 -- THEN

OFTEN YOU ALLOW YOURSELF

TO BE DEFINED BY THE

PEOPLE AND THE

CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE

SITUATIONS AROUND YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

VERONICA FIND WAS THAT

THERE WAS NO JOY IN THAT.

I SO RELATED TO HER VERY

SORT OF SARCASTIC,

TENTATIVE PRAYER TO GOD

BECAUSE IT IS EXACTLY THE

SAME ONE THAT I PRAYED.

SO SCARRED BY THE WORLD.

SO DISAPPOINTED.

SO LOST, JUST LOST.

THAT ONE DAY I, TOO, SAID,

GOD, IF THERE IS A GOD,

JESUS, IF YOU'RE REAL, I

GIVE YOU WHAT'S LEFT OF MY

LIFE.

AND YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU

WANT WITH IT.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, I

KNOW WHERE I WAS IF I

DIDN'T SAY THIS PRAYER.

IT WAS HARD TO TRUST, HARD

TO BELIEVE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LET THE

WORLD IN, THEY'LL DESTROY

YOU.

ALL THE WORLD -- ALL THE

WATER IN THE WORLD CAN'T

SINK A SHIP UNLESS IT GETS

INSIDE, SO BE CAREFUL WHAT

YOU LET INSIDE.

BUT ONCE YOU'VE DONE THAT,

UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARMS

OF GOD ARE ALWAYS

STRETCHED OUT TO YOU.

YOU CAN'T BE TOO BAD, GO

TOO FAR, SIN TOO MUCH TO

NOT BE ABLE TO BE RECEIVED

BACK INTO THE ARMS OF YOUR

LOVING FATHER.

YOU SEE, YOU WERE CREATED

FOR THAT.

WE ARE CREATED TO BE

RELATIONAL.

WE EACH OTHER, YES, BUT

FIRST AND FOREMOST WITH

THE ONE WHO CREATED US.

WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO GIVE

UNTIL WE HAVE THAT.

IT'S NOT BAD TO BE ON A

SEARCH.

I THINK WE'RE ALL

SEARCHING FOR SIGNIFICANCE

IN OUR LIVES.

WHAT'S BAD IS WHEN YOU

RULE OUT ALLOWING THE ONE

WHO CREATED YOU WITH THAT

VERY NEED INSIDE OF YOU.

IT'S AT THE CORE OF YOUR

BEING.

AND YOU DON'T GIVE HIM THE

SAME OPPORTUNITY YOU GIVE

EVERYTHING ELSE.

ALL OF TALENT, ALL THE

DRUGS, ALL THE SEX, ALL

THE THAT THTHAT THE WORLD HAS TO

OFFER, THE FAME, THE

GLORY -- NONE OF IT WILL

SATISFY YOU YOU BECAUSE

THAT'S NOT THE PUZZLE

PIECE THAT FITS WHAT FILLS

YOUR HEART.

IT'S ONLY A RELATIONSHIP

WITH YOUR LOVING FATHER,

WHO KNOWS YOU BY NAME.

THE BIBLE SAYS HE HAS

CARVED YOUR NAME IN THE

PALM OF HIS HAND.

NOT A SPARROW FALLS FROM

THE TREE THAT HE DOESN'T

SEE IT.

WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN

TO GOOD PEOPLE?

IT'S PART OF THE LIFE

WE'RE IN HERE.

YOU HEARD VERONICA SAY,

WE'RE ON A JOURNEY, MY

FRIENDS.

AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO BE

HAPPY EVERY DAY WITH EVERY

SITUATION.

IT'S TO GET OVER THE

FINISH LINE.

SO I WOULD SAY TO YOU

TODAY, ARE YOU RUNNING THE

RACE?

ARE YOU WALKING OUT YOUR

JOURNEY?

ARE YOU FILLED WITH THE

KIND OF JOY THAT SUSTAINS

YOU EVEN IN THE MIDST OF

LOSS?

BECAUSE YOU CAN BE.

YOU CAN BE.

JESUS DIED TO SAVE YOU AND

ME FROM WHO WE ARE WITHOUT

HIM.

TODAY, COME HOME TO THE

FATHER HEART OF GOD.

COME HOME.

JUST SAY, JESUS, I'M A

SINNER IN NEED OF A

SAVIOR.

COME INTO MY HEART AND MY

LIFE.

I OPEN THE DOOR.

I GIVE IT TO YOU.

MAKE SOMETHING THAT

MATTERS OUT OF MY LIFE.

TEACH ME MORE ABOUT WHO

YOU ARE.

CHANGE THE WAY I THINK

WITHOUT YOU.

I WANT TO RUN THE RACE

WITH GUSTO.

I WANT TO GET OVER THE

FINISH LINE.

LISTEN, IF THAT'S YOUR

HEART'S DESIRE, AND YOU'VE

PRAYED THAT PRAYER OR YOU

WANT TO PRAY THAT PRAYER,

CALL OUR TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

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Gordon: STILL AHEAD,

THE CASE FOR AND AGAINST

THE EXISTENCE OF DIVINE

MIRACLES IN OUR WORLD.

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR LEE

STROBEL SHARES STORIES OF

PEOPLE WHO BEAT THE ODDS

AND SHARES WHAT THE

EXPERTS THINK ABOUT THE

SUPERNATURAL.

Wendy: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

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SHE WAS ONCE THE LITTLE

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EDUCATION."

SHE WAS REJECTED WHEN HER

FATHER TRIED TO SIGN HER

UP TO ATTEND AN ALL-WHITE

SCHOOL IN KANSAS.

HER CASE WENT BEFORE THE

U.S. SUPREME COURT IN 1954

AND LED TO THE END OF

RACIAL SEGREGATION IN

SCHOOLS.

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AGE OF 76.

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"I CAN ONLY IMAGINE"

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OF HEALING.

THAT GIFT THAT ARTHUR

GAVE TO BART WAS THAT BART

DIDN'T HAVE TO CARRY THAT

AROUND FOR THE REST OF HIS

LIFE.

WHICH WOULD BE A HEAVY,

HEAVY, HEAVY LOAD, YOU

KNOW?

HE BROKE THAT CHAIN, AND

IT FREED BART AS WELL.

IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL,

BEAUTIFUL STORY, REALLY.

YOU KNOW, ABOUT MAKING THE

IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE.

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GORDON AND TERRY WILL BE

BACK WITH MORE OF TODAY'S

"THE 700 CLUB" RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Gordon: WELL, WE LIVE

IN AN AGE OF SKEPTICISM.

SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES

HAVE HELPED US UNDERSTAND

THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS,

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE

SITUATIONS WHERE THERE

SEEMS TO BE NO

EXPLANATION?

COULD THEY BE THE RESULT

OF MIRACLES?

WELL, WE ASKED SOME PEOPLE

ON THE STREETS TO GIVE US

THEIR TAKE ON THE ISSUE.

Reporter: THE

STATISTICS WILL SHOW THAT

MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO

BELIEVE IN MIRACLES.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN

MIRACLES?

ABSOLUTELY I BELIEVE IN

MIRACLES.

I'VE HAVE NUMEROUS

THINGS HAPPEN IN MY LIFE

THAT I KNEW WERE GOD.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T NE

AN EXPLANATION.

JUST HAVE FAITH.

I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T

SEEN ANYTHING, BUT I

DEFINITELY DO BELIEVE IN

THEM.

ME, PERSONALLY, I'VE

BEEN HIT BY CARS TWICE ON

MY BICYCLE.

I WALKED AWAY FROM BOTH OF

THEM WHEN NOTHING BROKEN.

IF YOU ASKED ME THIS

THREE WEEKS AGO, I

PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID

NO.

MIRACLES ARE KIND OF LIKE

BEAUTY, IT IS IN THE EYE

OF THE BEHOLDER.

I THINK IT IS A MIRACLE

THAT MY BEAUTIFUL GRANDSON

IS HERE.

I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

CANCER, AND TODAY I'M A

WITNESS THAT GOD IS REAL.

Gordon: FOR MORE ON

THIS, WE HAVE AUTHOR LEE

STROBEL, AND HIS LATEST

BOOK IS CALLED "THE CASE

FOR MIRACLES," AND WELCOME

BACK.

THANK YOU.

IT IS GREAT TO BE WITH

YOU.

Gordon: TELL US.

GIVE US THE ARGUMENT, WHAT

IS THE CASE FOR "MORAL MIRACLES?

LIKE YOUR PREVIOUS

STORY, ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO

WAS AN ATHEIST, I WAS AN

ATHEIST FOR MOST OF MY

LIFE.

BUT AFTER I CAME TO FAITH,

I STILL HAD MY SKEPTICAL

NATURE.

MY BACKGROUND IS IN

JOURNALISM AND LAW, SO IT

IS KIND OF WOVEN INTO MY

D.N.A.

Gordon: YOU WERE

TAUGHT TO BE SKEPTICAL?

EXACTLY.

YOU HAVE THE SAME

BACKGROUND.

I DID BELIEVE THE MIRACLES

REPORTED IN THE GOSPELS,

BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF GOD

IS STILL IN THE MIRACLE

BUSINESS TODAY.

IS HE STILL DIVINELY

INTERVENING IN PEOPLE'S

LIVES TODAY?

SO I WAS SKEPTICAL ABOUT

THAT, EVEN AS A CHRISTIAN.

SO I SPENT TWO YEARS OF MY

LIFE NOW INVESTIGATING THE

EVIDENCE FOR THE

SUPERNATURAL, AND THE

RESULT IS THE BOOK, "THE

CASE FOR MIRACLES," THAT

LOOKS AT THE RESULTS OF

THAT.

I FOUND BASICALLY THREE

THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, GOD IS STILL

IN THE MIRACLE BUSINESS.

NUMBER TWO, MIRACLES ARE A

LOT MORE COMMON THAN WE

THINK.

AND, NUMBER THREE, THERE

ARE A LOT OF MIRACLES THAT

ARE FAR BETTER DOCUMENTED

THAN SKEPTICS SUPPOSE.

Gordon: WHY IS THERE

BOTH ABUNDANT EVIDENCE AND

AT THE SAME TIME IT SEEMS

TO BE CONCEALED THAT WHEN

THERE ARE STUDIES DONE OF

THOSE PRAYER WORK IN A

MEDICAL ENVIRONMENT, AND

EVEN THE TEMPLETON

FOUNDATION, THEY DID A

STUDY --

RIGHT.

Gordon: -- AND IT

DIDN'T SEEM TO SHOW ANY

DIFFERENCE.

VERY INTEREST, IT

DIDN'T.

AND YET AS I REVEAL IN MY

BOOK, THAT CHRISTIANS,,

QUOTE, UNQUOTE, WHO THEY

HAD PRAYING IN THAT STUDY,

WERE NOT CHRISTIANS.

THERE WE PART OF A SECT

THAT DIDN'T BELIEVE IN A

PERSONAL GOD, WHO DID NOT

BELIEVE THAT GOD ANSWERED

PRAYERS, THAT DID NOT

BELIEVE IN MIRACLES.

SO THE STUDY SAYS NOTHING

ABOUT THE PRAYERS OF

CHRISTIANS.

THERE ARE OTHER STUDIES,

FOR INSTANCE, ONE DONE IN

MOZAMBIQUE, WHERE A TEAM

OF RESEARCHERS CAME AND

THEY MEASURED THE EYESIGHT

AND HEARING OF THE DEAF

AND THE BLIND, AND THEY

IMMEDIATELY PRAYED FOR

THEM, AND THEY HAD PEOPLE

WHO HAD EXPERIENCE WITH

HEALINGS, LAID HANDS ON

THEM, AND IMMEDIATELY

TESTED THEM AFTERWARD, AND

VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM HAD

SOME DEGREE OF

IMPROVEMENT.

SOME ASTOUNDINGLY SO.

LIKE ATIN, WHO COULDN'T

HEAR A JACK HAMMER BUT

AFTER THAT SHE COULD HEAR.

AND THE STUDY WAS

PUBLISHED IN A SECULAR,

SCIENTIFIC, PEER-REVIEWED

MEDICAL JOURNAL.

IT IS A VALID, SCIENTIFIC

STUDY.

I THINK SCIENCE POINTS IN

THE DIRECTION -- IN FACT,

I SPOKE TO THE RESEARCHER

WHO DID THAT, WHO HAS A

Ph.D. FROM HARVARD, AND

SHE SAID, SOMETHING IS

GOING ON.

WELL, I CAN TELL HER

WHAT'S GOING ON.

GOD IS GOING ON.

Gordon: WHY IS THAT?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IN

THE ACADEMIC COMMUNITY,

EVEN IN THE MEDICAL

COMMUNITY, THE SKEPTICISM

TAKES OVER.

YEAH.

Gordon: WE HAD A

MIRACLE, REALLY PROFOUND,

A YOUNG BOY HAD BLISTERS

IN HIS EYEBALL FROM

RADIATION, IRREVERSIBLE

DAMAGE, THEY WERE TALKING

LOSING THE EYE, AND A

MIRACLE HAPPENED.

AND THE DOCTOR KNEW IT

WASN'T MEDICALLY POSSIBLE

FOR THIS, BUT THEN SHE

SAID, WELL, ONE DAY

MEDICAL SCIENCE WILL

EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S SORT OF SCIENCE

IN THE GAP.

IT IS SORT OF SAYING SOME

DAY SCIENCE WILL FIGURE IT

OUT.

STUDIES SHOW THAT 55% OF

PHYSICIANS IN THE UNITED

STATES, A MAJORITY OF

PHYSICIANS SAY, THEY HAVE

SEEN AT LEAST ONE EXAMPLE

IN THEIR PRACTICE OF

MEDICINE THAT THEY CAN

ONLY EXPLAIN AS A MIRACLE

OF GOD.

SO A MAJORITY -- IN FACT,

A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF

PHYSICIANS THAN THE

POPULATION AT LARGE SAYS

THAT.

SO I THINK A LOT OF

PHYSICIANS -- BUT THEY'RE

A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO SAY

IT.

I INTERVIEWED A SCHOLAR

WHO IS A Ph.D., AND HE

TOLD ME FOR 45 MINUTES THE

STORY ABOUT HOW GOD HAD

HEALED HIM OF A BRAIN

TUMOR.

AND IN THE END, HE SAID,

BUT UT CAN' YOU CAN'T PUT IT IN

YOUR BOOK.

AND I SAID, WHY NOT?

HE SAID, I'M UP FOR

TENURE.

AND A LOT OF DOCTORS SAY,

WHAT DOES "MIRACLE" MEAN?

HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

Gordon: IT IS A

MIRACLE HOW YOU PAY YOUR

BILL.

EXACTLY.

Gordon: ONE THE

THINGS I ADMIRE ABOUT THE

BOOK IS YOU DO GO INTO WHY

PEOPLE DON'T GET HEALED.

YEAH.

Gordon: AND I THINK

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE

REALLY HAVE TO GRAPPLE

WITH.

I'VE READ A LOT OF BOOKS

ON MIRACLES, AND YOURS IS

ONE OF THE FIRST WHERE,

OKAY, LET'S DEAL WITH THE

OTHER SIDE OF THIS.

I DID TWO THINGS OUT OF

THE ORDINARY.

I START THE BOOK WITH AN

INTERVIEW WITH A MAJOR

SKEPTIC, AND I SAY BUILD A

CASE AGAINST MIRACLES.

AND THEN THIS QUESTION,

WHAT ABOUT MIRACLES THAT

DON'T HAPPEN.

MY WIFE IS IN PAIN EVERY

SINGLE DAY FOR THE LAST 20

PLUS YEARS.

SHE HAS A MEDICAL

CONDITION THAT PUTS HER IN

CHRONIC PAIN, AND THERE IS

NO CURE.

AND SO APART FROM A

MIRACLE, SHE IS GOING TO

BE IN PAIN THE REST OF HER

LIFE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A

MIRACLE HAPPEN.

IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

WHY IS THAT?

SO I WENT TO A GUY WHO HAS

A Ph.D. IN THEOLOGY, AND

HIS NAME IS DR. DOUGLAS

GROWTIS, A BRILLIANT

SCHOLAR, BUT HIS WIFE IS

DYING PREMATURELY OF A

BRAIN TUMOR.

AND SHE IS AT THE POINT

WHERE SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHY

A TELEPHONE IS.

AND SHE'S LOSING HER

THINKING ABILITY AT A

YOUNG AGE.

SO HE IS ABLE TO TALK FROM

THE MIND AND THE HEART.

IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL

INTERVIEW I'VE EVER

CONDUCTED IN MY LIFE.

EVERY SENTENCE FROM HIM

DRIPS WITH WISDOM AND

SPIRITUAL DEPTH BECAUSE OF

THE HEAD AND THE HEART

WEDDING TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S MY BEST ATTEMPT

TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I THINK GOD IS SOVEREIGN.

GOD WILL DO AS HE WILL DO.

HIS WAYS ARE ABOVE OUR

WAYS.

EVEN IN JESUS' TIME,

HEALING WAS NOT AUTOMATIC.

MATTHEW SAYS JESUS DIDN'T

DO MANY MIRACLES IN

NAZARETH.

MATTHEW 10, THE DISCIPLES

ARE GIVEN AUTHORITY TO

HEAL, AND SEVEN CHAPTERS

LATER THEY CAN'T HEAL AN

EPILEPTIC BOY.

PAUL LEAVES TROFAMUS SICK.

SO EVEN IN JESUS' DAY,

HEALING WAS NOT

NECESSARILY AUTOMATIC.

BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN MEANINGLESS

SUFFERING AND INSCRUTABLE

SUFFERING.

THERE IS NO HOPE, THERE IS

NO MEANING, I SUFFER

BECAUSE OF THE UNIVERSE --

I GOT THE SHORT END OF THE

STICK -- THAT'S

MEANINGLESS SUFFERING.

INSCRUTABLE SUFFERING

SAYS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND

WHY GOD DOES NOT

INTERVENE.

BUT I HAVE ALL OF THIS

EVIDENCE THAT POINTS

TOWARD THE TRUTH OF

CHRISTIANITY, THAT GOD IS

REAL, THAT JESUS IS WHO HE

CLAIMED TO BE.

I BELIEVE IN ALL OF THAT.

I BELIEVE HE LOVES ME.

AND I BELIEVE HIS WAYS ARE

HIGHER THAN MY WAYS, AND

HE UNDERSTANDS THINGS I

WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT

ROMANCE 8:28, THAT GOD

WILL CAUSE GOOD TO EMERGE

IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF

ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW

HIM -- WE THROW THAT LINE

AROUND, BUT IT IS TRUE.

Gordon: I HAVE MET

PEOPLE IN CHRONIC ILLNESS

SAY, PLEASE DON'T EVERY

SAY THAT.

IT'S TRUE.

Gordon: HOW KEY IS IT

TO THE TOTAL SURRENDER,

REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME,

LET'S LEAVE THE NAME IT

AND CLAIM IT BEHIND.

GOD, IF IT IS YOUR WILL --

YEAH.

Gordon: -- AND I'M

NOT SURE WHAT YOUR WILL IS

RIGHT NOW --

IT'S CALLED THE

PRAYER --

Gordon: -- I'LL TAKE

WHATEVER YOU HAVE FOR ME.

IT IS CALLED THE PRAYER

OF RELINQUISHMENT.

AND JESUS PRAYED THAT

PRAYER IN THE GARDEN OF

GETHSEMANE, AND HE SAID,

FATHER, I'M RELINQUISHING

MY WILL TO YOURS.

I'M ALLOWING THIS TO

HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU WANT IT

TO HAPPEN.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN A

MIRACLE DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE

SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY

I LOVE YOU ONLY IF YOU

HEAL ME, BUT I LOVE YOU

BECAUSE YOU ARE WHO YOU

ARE, YOU LOVED ME FIRST.

YOU REDEEMED ME.

I'M YOU'RE CHILD.

I TRUST YOU.

EVEN THOUGH I DON'T

UNDERSTAND YOU, I TRUST

YOU.

I RELINQUISH THIS TO YOU.

IT'S NOT THAT I'M GIVING

UP.

IT'S THAT I AM SAYING I

TRUSTED GOD, EVEN THOUGH I

DO NOT UNDERSTAND ALL OF

HIS WAYS.

THAT'S A CRITICAL MOMENT.

Gordon: AND THIS IS

PART OF THAT PRAYER.

THIS IS THE DAY THE LORD

HAS MADE.

I WILL REJOICE AND BE GLAD

IN IT.

JESUS SANG THAT AT THE

LAST SUPPER.

WE CAN TALK A LONG TIME,

BUT WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW

MORE ABOUT THIS, READ

LEE'S BOOK.

IT'S CALLED "THE CASE FOR

MIRACLES: A JOURNALIST

GUILTIES EVIDENCE FOR THE

SUPERNATURAL," AND IT IS

AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, GARD.

GORDON,

BLESS.

Terry: UP NEXT, A

MOTHER WHO WAS ALMOST

FORCED TO GIVE UP PARENTAL

RIGHTS TO HER CHILDREN.

SEE WHAT REUNITED THIS

FAMILY WHEN WE COME BACK.

Terry: WELL, NAZIRA

HAD TO MAKE A DESPERATE

DECISION BY LEAVING HER

THREE CHILDREN AT AN

ORPHANAGE.

SHE DID IT SO THEY WOULD

NOT STARVE TO DEATH.

BUT IN THREE MONTHS, SHE

LEARNED SHE WOULD HAVE TO

SURRENDER RIGHTS TO HER

CHILDREN FOREVER.

THE CHILD ATE NOTHING

FOR THREE DAYS AFTER HIS

MOTHER DROPPED HIM OFF AT

THE ORPHANAGE WITH HIS

BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

I WAS SO LONELY.

I WANTED MY MOM TO CALM COME

BACK FOR ME.

Terry: BUT HIS MOTHER

WASN'T COMING BACK.

I HAD TO GIVE MY

CHILDREN UP TO THE

ORPHANAGE SO THEY WOULD

NOT STARVE TO DEATH.

Terry: BEFORE GIVING

UP HER CHILDREN, NAZIRA

TRIED HARD TO SUPPORT

THEM.

SHE APPLIED FOR GOVERNMENT

ASSISTANCE, BUT WAS TURNED

DOWN.

THEN SHE WAS TOLD AFTER

TWO MONTHS OF CARE IN THE

ORPHANAGE, SHE WOULD BE

FORCED TO SURRENDER HER

CHILDREN FOREVER.

I COULD NOT STAND SUCH

A THING.

I PRAYED TO GOD, PLEASE

LET THERE BE ANOTHER WAY.

Terry: SEVERAL MONTHS

PASSED, AND ADIMIR WAS

STILL WAITING BY THE

ORPHANAGE WINDOW.

THAT'S WHERE "ORPHANS'

PROMISE" FOUND HIM.

I MET ADIMIR, AND I

COULD TELL THERE WAS

SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT

HIM, AND HE SEEMED SAD.

THEN I LEARNED HE HAD A

FAMILY BUT HE WAS TAKEN

AWAY FROM THE FAMILY

BECAUSE THEY WERE POOR.

Terry: FIRST,

"ORPHANS' PROMISE" WENT TO

MET NAZIRA.

AND WE DECIDED WITH ENOUGH

SKILLS, SHE COULD EARN

ENOUGH MONEY TO SUPPORT

HER FAMILY AND BE REUNITED

WITH THEM.

WE OFFERED HER SEWING

LESSONS AND A NEW SEWING

MACHINE.

AND WE GAVE HER A NEW

STOVE AND FOOD TO FEED HER

FAMILY, AND HELPED WITH

THE RENT UNTIL SHE COULD

PROVIDE FOR HER FAMILY

HERSELF.

I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THE

SEWING MACHINE TO HELP ME

MAKE MONEY FOR MY FAMILY.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US

BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.

Terry: IT HAS BEEN

TWO YEARS SINCE THEN, AND

WE RECENTLY VISITED NAZIRA

AND HER CHILDREN.

WE FOUND THEM WELL AND

THRIVING.

TODAY NAZIRA PROUDLY

SUPPORTS HER FAMILY ON HER

OWN.

MY MOM HAS A JOB, AND

WE HAVE FOOD AND WE ARE

FED.

GOD ANSWERED MY PRAYERS

THROUGH YOUR HELP.

WITH MY SEWING SKILLS, I

EVEN GOT A NEW JOB.

NOW WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE

NEED.

YOU MADE ALL OF THIS

POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

Terry: YOU YOU KNOW,

WKNOW, WEWERE TALKING ABOUT

MIRACLES A MOMENT AGO.

THIS, FOR THIS FAMILY, WAS

A MIRACLE.

THESE CHILDREN WERE ALMOST

SEPARATED FROM THEIR MOM

FOR THE REST OF THEIR

LIVES, AND THERE WAS

NOTHING SHE COULD DO ABOUT

IT.

THEN YOU SHOWED UP, "700

CLUB" MEMBERS.

WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK

YOU.

THIS MOM HAS DIGNITY.

SHE HAS HER KIDS.

THAT LITTLE BOY IS NOT

WAITING IN HIS WINDOW,

HOPING THAT HIS MOM IS

GOING TO COME BACK.

HE IS IN HIS FAMILY.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT

"ORPHANS' PROMISE" DOES,

KEEPING FAMILIES TOGETHER.

WHERE POVERTY IS AN ISSUE,

CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE PUT

IN ORPHANAGES.

THEY NEED TO BE WITH THEIR

MOMS AND DADS WHENEVER

POSSIBLE.

HELP US DO THAT.

LISTEN, HELPING CHILDREN

IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU JOIN

"THE 700 CLUB."

YOU'RE DIGGING WATER WELLS

FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE

CLEAN WATER.

YOU'RE OFFERING FOOD TO

PEOPLE WHO ARE HUNGRY,

LIFE-SAVING SURGERY TO

MANY PEOPLE -- ALL KINDS

OF WORK BEING DONE IN THE

NAME OF JESUS AND BECAUSE

OF YOUR KINDNESS AND

GENEROSITY.

JOIN US TODAY.

65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A

MONTH, MAKES YOU A "700

CLUB" MEMBER.

LISTEN, WHEN YOU CALL OUR

TOLL-FREE NUMBER,

1-800-700-7000, AND SAY

YOU WANT TO JOIN, WE'RE

GOING TO SEND YOU

"ANSWERED PRAYER."

BOY, AFTER TODAY'S SHOW IF

YOU DON'T WANT THIS

D.V.D., I DON'T KNOW WHAT

YOU WANT.

THIS IS GOING TO TALK TO

YOU ABOUT HOW TO PRAY

EFFECTIVELY AND

EFFICIENTLY.

I THINK IT WILL BLESS YOU,

TOO.

SO CALL NOW.

READY FOR SOME E-MAILS?

THIS IS A VIEWER WHO SAYS,

"I FOUND OUT MY HUSBAND OF

MANY YEARS HAS BEEN

WATCHING PORN.

WHEN I CONFRONTED HIM BACK

IN 2016, HE SAID HE

WOULDN'T DO IT AGAIN, BUT

HE HAS.

THE FEELING OF NOT BEING

WORTHY IS HORRIBLE.

I'VE TRIED TO TALK TO HIM.

WE'RE TRYING COUNSELLING.

HE DOESN'T LIKE TO GO,

SAYS IT IS ONE-SIDED.

HE SAYS HE FEELS LIKE HE

IS BEING MADE TO DO

SOMETHING HE DOESN'T WANT

TO DO.

HIS MOODS CHANGE QUICKLY.

IT IS HARD.

WE HAVE A YOUNG CHILD.

I WANT TO SAVE OUR

MARRIAGE.

WHAT DO I DO?"

Gordon: LET ME TALK

TO YOU.

I ASSUME THAT PHRASE, "THE

FEELING OF NOT BEING

WORTHY IS HORRIBLE,"

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

YOURSELF.

AND YOU'RE WORTHY.

AND DON'T FOR A MINUTE

THINK THAT HIS ADDICTION

TO PORNOGRAPHY HAS

ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

ABOUT WHETHER YOUR

ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH OR GOOD

ENOUGH OR WORTHY ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.

HE'S ADDICTED.

PORNOGRAPHY IS ADDICTIVE.

IT LITERALLY REWIRES YOUR

BRAIN.

AND PSYCHOLOGISTS ARE NOW

SAYING IT IS EQUIVALENT TO

COCAINE, THAT IT GIVES

THIS PLEASURE RUSH IN

PLEASURE CENTERS OF THE

BRAIN.

AND WHEN YOU GET EXPOSED

TO IT, IT'S LIKE TAKING

SOME KIND OF HIT OF CRACK

COCAINE.

REALIZE THAT IF HE IS

POWERLESS OVER HIS

ADDICTION, WELL, SO ARE

YOU.

AND ONLY GOD CAN RESTORE

YOU.

SO LOOK TO HIM FOR YOUR

WORTHINESS, FOR YOUR LOVE,

FOR YOUR COMFORT.

HE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU

YOU.

> HERE IS A WORD FROM 1

CORINTHIANS: "NO EYE HAS

SEEN, NO EAR HAS HEARD,

AND NO MIND HAS IMAGINED

WHAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR

THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."

THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."

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