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700 Club Interactive - April 26, 2018

Author and pastor Rusty George shares secrets on how to live in true community and find the fulfillment you’ve been looking for. Read Transcript


Gordon: BETTER

TOGETHER, AUTHOR AND

PASTOR RUSTY GEORGE

DISCUSSES HIS LATEST BOOK,

AND HOW YOU CAN DISCOVER

THE POWER OF COMMUNITY.

PLUS...EFREM GRAHAM IS

HERE WITH THE LATEST NEWS

FROM THE WORLD OF

ENTERTAINMENT.

ALL THAT AND MORE ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

HERE IS EFREM GRAHAM WITH

THIS WEEK'S TOP FIVE

STORIES FROM "STUDIO 5."

Efrem: AT NUMBER

FIVE...

*

* WHEN JESUS TELLS US,

NOBODY CAN SAY NO *

Efrem: MICHELLE

WILLIAMSS SAYS YES TO

PASTOR CHAD JOHNSON.

POSTING PHOTOS ON INS

INSTAGRAM, SHE SHARED HE

IS ENGAGED TO THE PASTOR.

I WAS SO SHY, AND I WAS

CRYING SO LOUD, PEOPLE

WERE TURNING AROUND, GOING

BACK TO THEIR ROOMS.

THEY WERE, LIKE, DID SHE

JUST FIND OUT SOMETHING

REALLY BAD?

WHAT HAPPENED?

[APPLAUSE]

Efrem: WILLIAMS

POSTED, "THE LOVE OF MY

LIFE PROPOSED, AND I SAID

YES, I WILL, I WILL, I

WILL.

".

AT NUMBER FOUR...FROM

CRY FOR MUMMY, TO LITTLE

CROWN, THE LONDON

HEADLINES ARE A BEA ABUZZ FOR A

NEW BABY.

KATE MIDDLETON GAVE BIRTH

TO A BABY BOY MONDAY

MORNING AND LEFT ST.

MARY'S HOSPITAL 11 HOURS

LATER.

THE NEW KID IS NOW FIFTH

IN LINE FOR THE THRONE.

> AT NUMBER THREE...45

YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GEARING

UP TO COMPETE FOR

$100,000, WHEN THE

NATIONAL BIBLE CONTEST

RETURNS.

WITH HOSTS JASON AND DAVID

BENIM.

YOU GOT 1,000 POINTS.

Efrem: THE NATIONAL

BIBLE BEE PREMIERS

EXCLUSIVELY AT Bible

BibleTV.com.

> AT NUMBER TWO...

* AND YOU WAITED

* FOR ME

Efrem: TRAVIS GREEN

IS ONE OF MORE THAN A

DOZEN CHRISTIAN ARTISTS

NOMINATED FOR A 2018

BILLBOARD MUSIC AWARD.

HE IS UP FOR BEST GOSPEL

ALBUM AND BEST GOSPEL

ARTIST.

DOES THAT GET OLD?

NO, MAN, NO!

IT'S SO COOL, MAN.

I KIND OF STARTED FROM THE

BOTTOM.

Efrem: I LIKE IT.

OKAY.

NO, IT NEVER GETS OLD,

MAN.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG

JOURNEY, AND A LOT OF

PEOPLE GOT ME TO WHERE I

AM.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A

WHILE.

Efrem: MERCY ME IS UP

FOR BEST CHRISTIAN ARTIST,

ALONG WITH HILLSONG

UNITED.

* HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE

WONDER *

Efrem: WHOSE "WONDER"

PROJECT IS UP FOR BEST

CHRISTIAN ALBUM.

*

Efrem: AT NUMBER

ONE...

I WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE

COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF

YOU.

AND THIS IS PROOF BECAUSE

I HATE DOING THIS.

Efrem: AFTER WRAPPING

THE FINAL EPISODE OF ABC'S

"THE MIDDLE," PATRICIA

HEATON TRAVELLED TO SOUTH

SUDAN TO SERVE REFUGEES.

ALONG WITH THE

HUMANITARIAN AID AGENCY

"WORLD VISION."

HEATON POSTED VIDEOS LIKE

THIS ON HER Facebook

PAGE.

GINA SAID, PLEASE LET

HIM KNOW THAT GOD IS

ALWAYS WITH YOU.

Efrem: TO ENCOURAGE A

15-YEAR-OLD REFUGEE NAMED

VICTOR.

IT IS EASY TO DO

SOMETHING YOU LIKE FOR

PEOPLE.

BUT DOING SOMETHING YOU

HATE, THAT'S LOVE.

Gordon: PATRICIA

HEATON IS NOW DOING

MISSION TRIPS.

Efrem: SHE DOES A LOT

OF WORK FOR "WORLD

VISION."

TO SEE HER HEART AND TO

TAKE ALONG ANOTHER CAST

MEMBER -- THEY'VE WRAPPED

THE FINAL EPISODE OF THE

SHOW, AND WHAT A WAY TO

CELEBRATE: I'M GOING TO

GO AND PUT MY HANDS TO

WORK TO REACH PEOPLE.

SHE ASKED HER FANS TO SEND

PRAYERS TO THE CHILDREN,

THE REFUGEES THERE, SO SHE

COULD SEND THEM WITH HER.

THAT LITTLE KID HAD, LIKE,

70 LETTERS.

SAYING, WE ARE PRAYING FOR

YOU, WE KNOW YOU'RE

STRUGGLING AND THERE IS A

CRISIS HERE, BUT WE'RE

PULLING FOR YOU.

Gordon: AND WHAT A

TOUCHING MOMENT FOR THAT

CHILD TO SAY, WOW, THERE

ARE PEOPLE HALF WAY AROUND

THE WORLD SAYING, I'M

PRAYING FOR YOU.

Efrem: DID YOU YOU

SEE THE SMILSEETHE SMILE ON HIS FACE.

HE IS POSSIBLY AN ORPHAN.

HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY

KNOW WHO SHE IS, BUT SHE

IS THERE SHARING THESE

BEAUTIFUL LETTERS.

Gordon: WHAT WERE

THEY MAKING?

WAS IT SOME KIND OF RICE?

Efrem: IT WAS SOME

SORT OF DOUGH, WHERE THEY

WERE MAKING SOME KIND OF

BREAD.

I THINK THE EXPERTS CAME

IN AND TOOK THAT JOB OVER.

Gordon: THEY DIDN'T

KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING?

Efrem: THEY ADMITTED

THAT.

THEY TOOK THAT PHOTO OP

AND SAID, LET THE PEOPLE

WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE

DOING HANDLE THAT.

WE'LL GO BACK TO

DELIVERING LETTERS.

Gordon: WE HAVE THE

BILLBOARDS --

Efrem: THERE ARE 13.

AND A GREAT NUMBER OF THAT

THEM HAVE APPEARED ON

"STUDIO 5."

TRAVIS GREEN AMONG THEM.

HE IS UP FOR BEST GOSPEL

ALBUM.

AND MERCY ME, WHAT A YEAR

THEY'RE HAVING AFTER THE

FILM.

THEY'RE NOMINATED AGAIN

THIS YEAR.

WE WILL SEE THE BILLBOARD

MUSIC AWARDS ON NBC AT THE

END OF MAY.

I WANT TO SAY MAY 20th,

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND HILLSONG, I MEAN THEY

JUST KEEP CRANKING IT OUT.

THEY'RE NOMINATED FOR BEST

CHRISTIAN ALBUM FOR THE

ALBUM "WONDER," WHICH IS A

GREAT, GREAT ALBUM.

AND I ENJOY THAT SONG,

"WONDER".

Gordon: DO YOU THEY

EVER RETIRE YOU WHEN YOU

GET SO MANY REWARDS?

Efrem: NO.

AS TRAVIS GREEN SAID --

BECAUSE I ASKED HIM, DOES

THIS EVER GET OLD?

NINE STELLAR AWARDS -- AND

HE SAID, NO, IT NEVER GETS

OLD.

AND THE JOURNEY TO GET

HERE HAS BEEN LONG.

IT IS A TESTAMENT TO GOD'S

FAITHFULNESS.

Gordon: OVERNIGHT

SUCCESSES ARE A LONG TIME

COMING, AND IT USUALLY

STARTS DECADES BEFORE THE

OVERNIGHT.

Efrem: WHEN A PAINTER

PAINTS A MASTERPIECE, AND

PEOPLE SAY, YOU DID THAT

IN A COUPLE OF HOURS.

NO.

THAT'S THE RESULT OF YEARS

AND YEARS.

Gordon: NATIONAL

BIBLE BEE, WE'VE GOT SOME

NEW BIBLE BEE CONTESTANTS.

$100,000 IS THE REWARD.

THE LAST I CHECKED, THAT'S

A LOT OF MONEY.

Efrem: IT'S A LOT OF

MONEY, INDEED.

IF YOU WATCH THIS -- I DID

WATCH THE FIRST EPISODE ON

TUESDAY, WHICH IS ON

Facebook, AND THE

AMAZING ABILITY OF THESE

KIDS TO QUOTE SCRIPTURE

LITERALLY JUST BY

GIVING -- I GIVE YOU THE

CHAPTER AND VERSE, AND YOU

JUST HAVE TO GO.

WOW, TO COMMIT ALL OF THAT

TO MEMORY.

I KNOW THAT ON SOME

SUNDAYS, WHEN I'VE GOT TO

EITHER TEACH SUNDAY

SCHOOL, I'M STRUGGLING TO

REMEMBER, WHERE WAS THAT

VERSE AGAIN?

I KNOW IT'S IN THERE.

BUT THESE KIDS ARE AMAZING

TO WATCH.

AMAZING.

Gordon: IT IS.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT

SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE GIFTED.

Efrem: THEY ARE.

Gordon: IT IS JUST AN

AMAZING THING, TO SAY,

OKAY, I CAN RECITE IT,

JUST CALL IT OUT AND I'LL

GIVE IT TO YOU.

Efrem: AND MANY OF

THEM, IT IS CLEAR THAT

ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR

NATIVE LANGUAGE, BECAUSE

YOU CAN HEAR IT IN THEIR

ACCENT, BUT STILL ABLE TO

QUOTE SCRIPTURE SO

BEAUTIFULLY.

BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.

Gordon: SPEAKING OF

ENGLISH, LET'S GO TO

ENGLAND.

Efrem: WE'RE STILL

WAITING FOR THE NAME.

WHEN ARE YOU YOU GOING TO GOING TO NAME

THIS CHILD?

WE EXPECT IT ANY DAY.

Gordon: WHAT IS THE

LAST NAME?

Efrem: MY WIFE ASKED

THAT VERY SAME QUESTION.

Gordon: THAT'S

CREEPY.

[LAUGHTER]

Efrem: WHAT IS HIS

LAST NAME.

I THINK IT IS JUST THE

DUKE OF -- I LOOKED, AND

IT IS JUST THE DUKE OF

CAMBRIDGE, I THINK THAT'S

IT.

Gordon: THAT'S

THEY'RE LAST NAME.

Efrem: THAT'S ALL I

COULD FIND.

BUT HE IS LISTED AS THE

DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE.

AND HE IS THE FIFTH IN

LINE TO THE THRONE FOR

THIS ONE.

WE THINK HIS NAME IS GOING

TO BE ARTHUR, BUT WE'RE

NOT SURE.

Gordon: KING ARTHUR.

Efrem: WE THINK THAT.

THE OTHER FASCINATING --

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: WE'RE GOING

OLD SCHOOL.

Efrem: YES.

THE OTHER FASCINATING

STORY THERE IS IF YOU SAW

KATE MIDDLETON SEVEN HOURS

AFTER GIVING BIRTH, SHE

LOOKED PERFECT SEVEN HOURS

AFTER GIVING BIRTH AND

HEADING HOME.

Gordon: SHE WAS IN

MAKEUP AND HAIR.

Efrem: YES.

SHE HAD HAIR AND MAKEUP.

Gordon: SHE WAS READY

FOR HER PHOTO OP.

Efrem: MY WIFE WAS A

LITTLE JE JEALOUS.

WOW, THAT'S NOT HOW I

LOOKED AFTER GIVING BIRTH

TO YOUR TWO.

Gordon: NOTICE THE

UNDER LINE ON "YOUR TWO."

SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH

IT.

THEY'RE YOUR CHILDREN NOW.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE

WHEN SHE SAYS, YOUR CHILD

IS DOING SOMETHING.

> ALL RIGHT, DESTINY'S

CHILD.

WE'VE GOT A MARRIAGE.

Efrem: YES.

Gordon: AND HE IS THE

CHAPLAIN FOR THE DODGERS

AND THE STEELERS.

HAVE THEY GOING TO BE

BICOASTAL?

Efrem: HE TRAVELS A

LOT.

HE IS ALSO A PASTOR IN THE

L.A. AREA.

HE FOUNDED A CHURCH THERE.

THE LOVE STORY FOR THESE

TWO, THEY MET AT ONE OF

THE RETREATS HE WAS

HOSTING.

SHE HAD JUST GOTTEN OUT OF

A HORRIBLE RELATIONSHIP,

AND HE AS WELL.

AND THEY BOTH WERE PRAYING

FOR GOD TO MOVE IN THEIR

LIVES, AND TO MAKE THEM

COMFORTABLE BEING SINGLE

IF THAT'S WHAT HE HAD

CALLED THEM TO DO.

AND SO THEY MEET --

Gordon: IF I'M ONE OF

THEIR EXES, I'M SAYING,

WHAT DO YOU MEAN HORRIBLE

RELATIONSHIP?

[LAUGHTER]

Efrem: THEY WERE

REALLY, REALLY UPSET, BUT

FOUND EACH OTHER, BECAME

FAST FRIENDS, AND FELL IN

LOVE.

THOSE ARE THEIR WORDS.

GETTING MARRIED THIS

SUMMER.

HE TRAVELLED TO ILLINOIS

TO SPEAK TO EVERY SINGLE

MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILY AND

ASK FOR HER HAND WITHOUT

HER KNOWING, AND THEN

BROUGHT THE VIDEO TO SHOW

HER.

YOUR MOM AND DAD APPROVED,

AND YOUR AUNT APPROVED,

AND NOW I WANT YOU TO SAY

YES.

AND SHE SAID, YES, YES,

YES, I WILL.

Gordon: THAT'S LIKE

PUTTING PRESSURE ON YOU,

YOUR WHOLE FAMILY.

Efrem: YES.

SHE HAD NO CLUE HE WAS IN

ILLINOIS, DOING THIS, AND

THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND HE

CAME AND PROPOSED TO HER.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ALL OF

THE LATEST IN

ENTERTAINMENT NEWS, ALL OF

THE GOSPEL ABOUT HORRIBLE

EX RELATIONSHIPS, JUST

CHECK OUT EPHRAIM'S WEEKLY

SHOW, "STUDIO 5," AND,

EFREM, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN

NEXT WEEK.

Efrem: SEE YOU NEXT

WEEK.

Gordon: UP NEXT, HE

LEARNED HOW TO PRAY BY

WATCHING A CHILDREN'S TV

SHOW.

SINCE THEN, HIS FAMILY HAS

SEEN THE MIRACULOUS.

MEET THIS 9-YEAR-OLD

PRAYER WARRIOR RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Gordon: WELL, WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR

SPRING WEEK OF PRAYER.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SENT US

YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS, ALL

YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO

OUR NUMBER:

1-800-700-7000.

OR YOU CAN LOG ON TO

cbn.com AND WE'LL BE

PRAYING FOR YOUR REQUESTS

EVERY DAY ON "THE 700

CLUB," AND ALSO IN OUR

CHAPELS DAILY AT NOON.

> WELL, CBN'S

"SUPERBOOK" IS TEACHING

CHILDREN ALL AROUND THE

WORLD THE STORIES OF THE

BIBLE, AND IN THE

PHILIPPINES, IT HAS ALSO

INSPIRED ONE YOUNG BOY TO

PRAY FOR A MIRACULOUS

HEALING.

Reporter: NELSA BEGAN

RAISING HER GRANDSON, SAM,

AFTER HIS MOTHER COULD NO

LONGER PROVIDE FOR HIM.

SHE HELPED SAM WITH

HOMEWORK AND THEY DO

CHORES TOGETHER, BUT ONE

OF THEIR FAVORITE

ACTIVITIES IS WATCHING

CBN'S "SUPERBOOK."

I LEARNED FROM

"SUPERBOOK."

HE TRUSTED IN THE LORD.

Reporter: NELSA IS

AND SAM HAVE FACED

CHALLENGES TOGETHER, LIKE

THE TIME SAM WAS SICK WITH

A HIGH FEVER AND ASTHMA.

I FELT SO HELPLESS.

I WAS SOBBING.

AND THEN SAM SAID, DON'T

CRY.

LET'S JUST PRAY.

Reporter: SAM

REMINDED HIS GRANDMOTHER

ABOUT THE FAITH OF DANIEL.

HE PRAYED AND PRAYED

UNTIL GOD SAVED HIM FROM

THE LION, AND HE WAS SET

FREE.

THE NEXT DAY MY ASTHMA WAS

DONE.

JESUS HEALED ME.

Reporter: RECENTLY,

WHEN SAM HEARD HIS MOTHER

HAD CANCER, HE URGED HIS

GRANDMOTHER TO TAKE HIM TO

VISIT SO HE COULD PRAY

WITH HER.

HE HAD NOT SEEN HIS MOM

SINCE HE WAS SIX MONTHS

OLD.

I WAS HAPPY BECAUSE I

SAW HER FOR THE FIRST

TIME, BUT I WAS SAD

BECAUSE SHE WAS SICK.

I PRAYED, LORD, YOU ARE MY

DOCTOR.

I PRAY THAT YOU WILL HEAL

HER, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR

GIVING HER LIFE.

IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

Reporter: SAM SAID HE

CONTINUED TO PRAY FOR HIS

MOM, ESPECIALLY WHEN HE

HEARD SHE HAD STOPPED

CANCER PAYMENTS.

SHE HAD RUN OUT OF MONEY

TO PAY FOR THEM.

MONTHS LATER, SAM MET HIS

MOM AGAIN, AND THIS TIME

SHE TOLD HIM SOME GOOD

NEWS: THE DOCTOR TOLD HER

HER SYMPTOMS WERE GONE,

THAT SHE WAS CANCER-FREE.

SAM KNEW THAT MEANT THEY

WOULD HAVE MORE TIME

TOGETHER.

I SAID, THANK YOU,

LORD, THAT YOU HEALED HER.

I LOVE "SUPERBOOK,"

BECAUSE IT TAUGHT ME TO

NEVER GIVE UP PRAYING.

Gordon: "SUPERBOOK"

IS TEACHING CHILDREN.

IT IS TEACHING THEM HOW TO

PRAY, HOW TO BELIEVE THAT

THERE WAS IS A SAVIOR.

IT IS TEACHING THEM THE

STORIES OF THE BIBLE.

AND YOU CAN BE A PART OF

IT.

YOU CAN BE A PART OF

SHARING THE STORIES OF THE

BIBLE WITH THE CHILDREN OF

THE WORLD.

WE'RE NOW IN 43 LANGUAGES.

WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO 55

LANGUAGES.

AND THERE IS THE BROADCAST

LANGUAGE MAP.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE

DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE

WE'RE BROADCASTING THE

EPISODE, EITHER ON THE

INTERNET OR THROUGH

BROADCAST TELEVISION OR

THROUGH SATELLITE

TELEVISION.

AND IT IS ALL MADE

POSSIBLE BECAUSE PEOPLE

LIKE YOU CARE ENOUGH TO

GIVE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT,

JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK" CLUB.

IT IS A GIFT OF $25 OR

MORE.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE LATEST

EPISODES OF THE

"SUPERBOOK" SERIES.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A

"SUPERBOOK" EXPLORER, AND

THE TWO EPISODES ON IT ARE

"PETER'S DENIAL," AND

"SAMUEL AND THE CALL OF

GOD."

SO IT'S YOURS.

AND YOU'LL GET THREE

COPIES OF THE LATEST

D.V.D., AND YOUR GIFT GOES

INTO THE PRODUCTION COSTS

OF THE SERIES, THE

DISTRIBUTION COSTS, AND

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE

TRANSLATION COSTS, SO THAT

WE CAN GET THESE WONDERFUL

STORIES OUT TO THE

CHILDREN OF THE WORLD.

THEY CAN HEAR IT IN THEIR

OWN LANGUAGE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO DO IT,

CALL US: 1-800-700-7000.

> WELL, COMING UP,

PASTOR AND AUTHOR RUSTY

GEORGE HAS HELPFUL ADVICE

FOR INTROVERTS, EX TRO TRO E EX TRO

Gordon: A RECENT

STUDY SHOWED THAT

INDIVIDUALISM IS ON THE

RISE, AND THAT SOCIAL

MEDIA IS THE LARGEST

CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.

AUTHOR AND PASTOR RUSTY

GEORGE SAYS WE NEED EACH

OTHER NOW MORE THAN EVER.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: OUR CULTURE

IS OBSESSED WITH SELFIES,

BETTER KNOWN AS PHOTOS

TAKEN OF OURSELVES USING

SMARTPHONES.

THESE SELFIES ARE A

SNAPSHOT OF OUR SOCIETY'S

CURRENT STATE OF MIND.

MEET RUSTY GEORGE.

HE IS THE LEAD PASTOR OF

REAL LIFE CHURCH IN

CALIFORNIA.

HE SAYS IT IS HARD TO

FOCUS ON OTHERS WHEN WE'RE

SO BUSY LOOKING AT OUR OWN

NEEDS.

WE REALLY CAN DISCOVER

A BETTER YOU BY

DISCOVERING THE PEOPLE

AROUND YOU.

Reporter: IN HIS

BOOK, "BETTER TOGETHER,"

RUSTY SHARES SURPRISING

TRUTHS ABOUT WHAT REAL

FRIENDS LOOK LIKE.

Gordon: RUSTY JOINS

US NOW.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

WITH US.

IT IS AN HONOR TO BE

HERE.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: HOW DO YOU

EXPLAIN THE PHENOMENON, IT

SEEMS WE'RE MORE CONNECTED

THAN EVER, AND WE HAVE

MORE ACCESS TO WHAT OUR

FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE

DOING THROUGH THEIR POSTS,

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE

SEEM TO BE LONELIER THAN

EVER.

WHY IS THAT?

I THINK THAT IS KIND OF

THE LIE THAT WE BUY INTO.

WE DON'T REALLY SEE IT

COMING.

WE START COLLECTING ALL OF

THESE FRIENDS -- I'VE GOT

A THOUSAND FRIENDS AND ALL

OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT AFTER

A WHILE, YOU CAN KIND OF

TAILER-MAKE YOUR LIFE FOR

THEM TO SEE, AND SO THAT'S

NOT REALLY WHO YOU ARE.

AND THEN YOU START TO GET

REALLY E ENVIOUS OF OTHER

PEOPLE'S LIVES.

WE SEE WHAT THEY WANT US

TO SEE, AND WE LIVE WHAT

WE LIVE.

IT TEACHES US THIS LIE

THAT NOBODY CAN UNDERSTAND

WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH.

NOBODY WOULD EVER RESONATE

WITH MY LIFE.

AND AS A RESULT, I'M JUST

ALONE.

Gordon: WHY IS THE

CHURCH NOT, I GUESS, GOING

FURTHER TO SAY, NO, LET'S

NOT ISOLATE.

WHAT PART OF "OUR FATHER"

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

WHAT CAN THE CHURCH DO

HERE?

WELL, THE CHURCH,

OBVIOUSLY, IS LEVERAGING

SOCIAL MEDIA TO HELP GET

OUR MESSAGE OUT, WHICH IS

A GOOD THING.

BUT IT ALSO HAS TO WALK

THAT FINE LINE OF NOT

IDOLIZING IT AS WELL.

AND SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE

TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE ONE

OF THE FEW PLACES IN

SOCIETY WHERE ANYBODY CAN

WALK IN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A

TICKET.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A

MEMBER.

YOU CAN COME IN AND BE A

PART OF IT.

SO BY PROVIDING RESOURCES

LIKE SMALL GROUPS AND

RECOVERY GROUPS AND GRIEF

GROUPS, YOU CREATE

OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE

TO CONNECT.

Gordon: HOW DO YOU

GET PAST WHAT I'LL CALL

THE CHURCH FACE, JUST LIKE

IN SOCIAL MEDIA WE WANT TO

SHOW THE BEST PARTS OF

WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHEN WE GO TO CHURCH, HOW

ARE YOU?

OH, I'M DOING GREAT.

I'M TOO BLESSED TO BE

STRESSED.

THAT KIND OF THING.

IS THAT PART OF THE

PROBLEM?

I THINK IT IS PART OF

THE PROBLEM.

I THINK THE GREATEST

EPIDEMIC WE HAVE THAT IS

REALLY HURTING THE CHURCH

IS CHURCH SHOPPING.

YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TERM

IN AND OF ITSELF, IT IS

SUCH A CONSUMERISTIC

MINDSET, OF SHOPPING

AROUND UNTIL I FIND A

CHURCH THAT MEETS ALL OF

MY NEEDS.

HERE IS THE TRUTH, AFTER A

WHILE, THEY'RE NOT GOING

TO MEET YOUR NEEDS

ANYMORE.

YOU'LL HAVE TO THEN GO

FIND ANOTHER CHURCH.

I RECOMMEND PEOPLE TO PICK

A CHURCH AND STAY THERE.

LET YOUR KIDS GROW UP

THERE AND LET THEM BUILD

LIFE-LONG FRIENDS THERE.

RECOGNIZE THERE WILL BE

THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE OR

DISAGREE WITH, BECAUSE

WE'RE ALL HUMAN.

SIT IN THE SAME SEAT ALL

OF TIME.

BECAUSE YOU'LL GET TO KNOW

THOSE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

GET INTO A SMALL GROUP OR

A SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASS OR A

FELLOWSHIP, AND MOVE

BEYOND THAT BARRIER OF

SUNDAY ONLY.

WHEN INVITING PEOPLE TO

CHURCH, INVITE THEM TO

DINNER FIRST BEFORE YOU

INVITE THEM TO COME WITH

YOU ON SUNDAY.

Gordon: WHAT'S THE

KEY TO SORT OF GETTING

SOMEONE TO GET REAL?

I KNOW JOINING IS PART OF

THAT, AND THEN WITH THAT

JOINING, THE BUILDING OF

TRUST.

RIGHT.

Gordon: BUT WHAT'S

THE KEY TO THAT?

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE

KEY IS THAT YOU HAVE TO

BECOME REAL YOURSELF

FIRST.

THE PROBLEM IS, WE'RE ALL

SCARED TO KIND OF SHOW

WHAT'S UNDER THE BED, SO

TO SPEAK, UNTIL WE SEE

THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE

JUNK UNDER LIARS A THEIRS AS WELL.

THE QUICKER YOU CAN BECOME

REAL WITH SOMEBODY ELSE --

I THINK IT IS JAMES WHO

TELLS US TO CONFESS OUR

SINS TO EACH OTHER, NOT SO

WE'LL BE FORGIVEN, BUT SO

WE'LL BE HEALED.

THERE IS THIS, SECRETS

MAKE US SICK MENTALITY

THAT WE WRESTLE WITH, AND

THE MORE WE CAN FIND

PEOPLE TO OPEN UP WITH AND

SHARE THAT WITH, THE MORE

WE BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT

OTHER PEOPLE EXPERIENCE

THE SAME THINGS.

I RECOMMEND PEOPLE, IF

YOU'RE IN SOME KIND OF A

GROUP AND THEY'RE ASKING

FOR PRAYER REQUESTS, SHARE

SOMETHING.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR

LIFE THAT YOU NEED PRAYER

FOR?

THEN IF YOU'RE IN THAT

GROUP AND YOU HEAR THAT

PRAYER REQUEST, WRITE IT

DOWN.

AND HERE IS AN IDEA: PRAY

FOR IT.

ACTUALLY PRAY FOR IT ON A

DAILY BASIS, SO THE NEXT

TIME YOU SEE THEM, YOU CAN

ASK THEM, HOW IS THAT

GOING?

HOW ARE YOU DOING WITH

THAT?

I JUST NOTICED WHEN PEOPLE

REPLY BACK TO ME, I'VE

BEEN PRAYING FOR THAT, AND

TELL ME HOW IT IS GOING.

I NOW SEE THEM AS A

TRUSTED PERSON IN MY LIFE

THAT I CAN BUILD A

FRIENDSHIP WITH BECAUSE

THEY CARED ENOUGH TO PRAY.

Gordon: AND SHARE ONE

ANOTHER'S BURDENS.

THAT'S THE REAL LOVE THAT

WE NEED TO HAVE.

AND IT HAS BEEN MY

EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU START

SHARING WHAT YOU'VE GONE

THROUGH, OR YOUR

STRUGGLES, THEN YOU FIND

THAT THESE SINS ARE

COMMON.

RIGHT.

Gordon: WE LOVE TO

SAY, NO ONE WAS EVER AS

BAD AS I WAS, BUT WHEN YOU

START SHARING, YOU FIND

OUT IT IS COMMON.

AND THEN YOU START INTO A

WHOLE CONVERSATION WHERE

YOU REALLY GLORIFY GOD,

THAT YOU YOU REALIZE JUST

HOW GREAT THE REDEMPTION

IS.

RIGHT.

Gordon: I'M SO MUCH

BETTER THAN I USED TO BE.

AND I'M STILL GETTING

BETTER DAY BY DAY.

RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S THE BEAUTY

OF THE WAY THAT GOD HAS

DESIGNED US, IN THAT WE DO

NEED EACH OTHER.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE

HANDS AND FEET OF JESUS.

WE ARE THE CHURCH, WHICH

IS MORE THAN JUST A

BUILDING, BUT IT IS THIS

COMMUNITY THAT IS

SPREADING THE LOVE OF

JESUS.

AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE

WITH OUR DEFICIENCIES IN

MIND.

THERE ARE THINGS I'M NOT

GOOD AT, AND I NEED OTHER

PEOPLE TO BE GREAT AT, SO

WE CAN COMPENSATE FOR EACH

OTHER.

AND IT TAKES THE PRESSURE

OFF OF YOU AS AN

INDIVIDUAL AS WELL,

BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER I

HAVE TO BE ALL THESE

THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE AT

ALL TIMES.

WE START LOOKING AT THAT

LIST OF THE FRUITS OF THE

SPIRIT, AND THAT LIST OF

THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT,

LESS OF A TO-DO LIST FOR

OURSELVES, BUT MORE OF

THIS IS WHAT THE CHURCH IS

AND HOW WE DO THIS

TOGETHER.

Gordon: IS PART OF

THIS PROBLEM THE CULTURE,

THE RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM

OF AMERICA?

YOU READ THE GOSPELS, AND

YOU READ THE OLD

TESTAMENT, AND IT IS ALL

ABOUT COMMUNITY.

UH-HUH.

Gordon: YES, IT DOES

GET DOWN TO TRIBES, BUT IT

IS ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY.

IT IS.

I THINK WE'RE LIVING IN AN

AGE WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO

PASS THE RUGGED

INDIVIDUALISM THING A

LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE GETTING BEYOND THAT

TO SOME DEGREE.

IT IS STILL A LITTLE

MANAGED IN WHAT WE SHARE

ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT THE MORE WE CAN GET

BELOW THE SURFACE, THE

MORE WE CAN ADMIT, I'M NOT

GOOD AT THIS, I STRUGGLE

WITH THIS, I NEED HELP

WITH THIS -- IT DOESN'T

MEAN YOU NEED TO AIR ALL

YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY DAY

ONE, BUT I THINK IT IS A

PROCESS WHERE YOU BEGIN TO

SHARE THAT WE PEOPLE, AND

PEOPLE BEGIN TO TRUST YOU

AS A TRUSTWORTHY PERSON TO

SHARE THEIR STUFF WITH AS

WELL.

Gordon: MY PRODUCERS

WANT ME TO ASK THIS

QUESTION BECAUSE I'M AN

INTROVERT.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO

INTROVERT TROS?

I'M AN INTROVERT AS

WELL, AND I WOULD TELL

YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO

KNOW EVERYBODY, BUT YOU'VE

GOT TO KNOW SOMEBODY.

YOU'VE GOT TO LINK WITH

SOME OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE

YOU CAN'T DO THI THIS ON YOUR

OWN.

Gordon: HERE IS A

WORD FOR YOU: "GREATER

LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS,

THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE'S

LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS."

FOR ALL OF US HERE, GOD

BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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