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700 Club Interactive - April 30, 2018

Bestselling author Mo Isom says it’s time for some real conversations about virginity, promiscuity, and everything in between. Read Transcript


Gordon: SEX,

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR MO

ISOM SAYS EVERYONE IS

TALKING ABOUT IT, EXCEPT

THE CHURCH.

SHE JOINS US LIVE FOR A

CANDID CONVERSATION ABOUT

VIRGINITY, PROMISCUITY,

AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN,

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

> WELL, WELCOME TO THE

SHOW.

HERE IS SOMETHING YOU

DON'T SEE EVERY DAY: 13

SEMI TRUCKS LINED UP

ACROSS THE FREEWAY IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

AND HERE IS WHY THIS

PICTURE HAS GONE VIRAL.

Terry: AT ABOUT

1 a.m. LAST TUESDAY, THE

MICHIGAN STATE POLICE

RECEIVED A CALL THAT A MAN

WAS HANGING OFF THE SIDE

OF A BRIDGE ON INTERSTATE

696 IN DETROIT.

THE UNIDENTIFIED MAN WAS

THREATENING TO END HIS

LIFE BY JUMPING ON TO THE

FREEWAY.

OFFICERS QUICKLY SPRANG

INTO ACTION.

FIRST THEY CLOSED THE

EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND

LANES.

NEXT, 13 TRUCKS WAITING ON

BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY

WERE WAVED THROUGH THE

LINE, AND OFFICERS HAD

THEM LINE UP UNDER THE

BRIDGE IN ORDER TO SHORTEN

THE FALL IF THE MAN DID

JUMP.

Gordon: THE TRUCKS

SAT THERE FORTUNAT FOR ABOUT TWO

HOURS, WHILE NEGOTIATORS

TALKED TO THE MAN, AND

THANKFULLY THE MAN DID NOT

JUMP.

HE WALKED AWAY SAFELY.

HE WAS TAKEN TO A LOCAL

HOSPITAL BY THE POLICE.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING

FOR THE TRUCKERS TO DO,

LET'S SAVE A LIFE TODAY.

Terry: THEY'RE OFTEN

SO GRACIOUS ON THE ROAD, I

SEE.

WHEN TRAFFIC IS HEAVY AND

THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP

FACILITATE THINGS, BUT

THIS WAS LIFE-CHANGING.

Gordon: AND WE SHOULD

BE EQUAL GRACIOUS BACK TO

THEM.

Terry: EVEN THOUGH AN

EF-3 TORNADO TORE THROUGH

THEIR TOWN, MANY RESIDENTS

OF ULON, VIRGINIA, GIVING

THANKS.

THE STORM DESTROYED 26

HOMES ON NOTAWAY DRIVE,

BUT THANKFULLY NO ONE WAS

KILLED.

Gordon: GARY AND HIS

WIFE AND FIVE CHILDREN HID

IN THEIR BASEMENT DURING

THE TORNADO.

AND NOW ALL THAT IS LEFT

OF THEIR HOME IS THE

FOUNDATION.

WHERE THE HOME ONCE STOOD,

NEIGHBORS RECENTLY

GATHERED TO SING PRAISES

TO GOD.

Terry: IN A

Facebook LIVE VIDEO,

17-YEAR-OLD TREY STANDS ON

THE BARE FOUNDATION OF THE

HOME, AND WITH GUITAR IN

HANDS, LEADER HIS

NEIGHBORS IN THE POPULAR

CASTING CROWNS SONG,

"PRAISE YOU IN THIS

STORM."

* I WAS SURE BY NOW, GOD,

YOU WOULD HAVE REACHED

DOWN *

* STEPPED IN AND SAVED THE

DAY *

* ONCE AGAIN, I SAY AMEN

* I RAISE MY HANDS AND

PRAISE TO GOD WHO GIVES

AND TAKES AWAY *

* I'LL PRAISE YOU IN THIS

STORM *

* AND I WILL LIFT MY

HANDS *

* BECAUSE YOU ARE WHO YOU

ARE *

Gordon: THAT'S TRUE

PRAISE, WHEN YOU CAN

PRAISE HIM IN THE MIDDLE

OF THE STORM.

TO PRAISE HIM JUST AS JOB

DID.

THE LORD GIVETH AND THE

LORD TAKETH AWAY, BLESSED

BE THE LORD.

Terry: WHAT A MIRACLE

THAT NO ONE DIED.

AMAZING.

Gordon: NEARLY 3,000

YEARS AGO, HEBREW PROPHETS

WROTE ABOUT HOW THE LAND

OF ISRAEL WOULD BE

TRANSFORMED.

NOW A NEW BOOK SHOWS

REMACABLREMARKABLE AND EVEN

PROPHETIC CHANGES IN THE

70 YEARS SINCE ISRAEL

BECAME A NATION.

CHRIS MITCHELL EXPLAINS

FROM JERUSALEM.

Chris: 150 YEARS AGO,

MARK TWAIN VISITED THE

HOLY LAND AND WROTE, "IT

WAS A DESOLATE COUNTRY, A

SILENT LAND ".

HE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU

COULD TRAVEL 10 MILES IN

ANY DIRECTION AND NOT SEE

A SINGLE PERSON.

WE DID PHOTOGRAPHY OF A

SMALL TOWN OF AFULA, WHICH

WAS STEARK ESTABLISHED IN THE

EARLY 1960s, AND TODAY

IT IS A BOOMING ISRAELI

CITY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO

MATCH SIDE BY SIDE

PHOTOGRAPHY OF IT.

Chris: THEY CHOSE 250

PHOTOGRAPHS OF ISRAEL.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, "ISRAEL

RISING: THE LAND OF

ISRAEL REAWAKENS," HERSHEY

CHRONICLES THE THAT TIME

SPAN TO TODAY.

WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF

LESS THAN 100 YEARS AGO

WITH SHACKS ON SAND DUNES,

WITH CAMEL CARAVANS ON THE

BEACH.

Chris: THE BOOK

FOLLOWS EZEKIEL'S PROMISE

IN CHAPTER 36: 8, THE

PROPHET DECLARED "YOU, OH,

MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, SHALL

SHOOT FORTH YOUR BRANCHES

AND SHOOT FORTH YOUR

FRUIT."

WHEN ISRAEL RETURNS AS

A NATION, BRANCHES WILL

TURN TO FRUIT, AND THE

LAND WILL BE CULTIVATED

AND SOWN.

Chris: HERE IS

JERUSALEM NEAR THE KING

DAVID HOTEL IN THE

1930s, AND THE SAME VIEW

TODAY.

THIS IS THE HEBREW

UNIVERSITY CAMPUS IN 1925,

AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE

NOW.

FROM THE NORTH IN HAIFA,

TO THE SOUTH IN BEERSHEBA,

HERHERSHEY SAYS THE PICTURES

REPRESENT THE PROPHETS'

WORDS COMING ALIVE.

WE'RE LIVING IN A VERY

PROFOUND TIME IN HISTORY.

IN A TIME WHEN 2600, 2700

PROPHECIES HAV2700-YEAR-OLD PROF FEES

2700-YEAR-OLD PROPHECIES

ARE LYING DORMANT.

BUT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD

WILL BRING HIS PEOPLE BACK

TO JERUSALEM, WE'RE SEEING

THAT.

THIS LAND HAS BEEN

CONQUERED 15, 20 DIFFERENT

TIMES.

IT NEVER BECOMES A

HOMELAND FOR ANY OTHER

PEOPLE GROUP, AND THE LAND

WOULD NEVER PRODUCE FOR

ANY OTHER PEOPLE GROUP.

ISRAEL MOVES BACK IN, AND

THEY'RE PRODUCING FLOWERS

AND FRUITS.

ISAIAH 27 TALKS ABOUT HOW

WHEN ISRAEL RETURNS, JACOB

WILL TAKE THE EARTH AND

PRODUCE MANY FRUITS.

AND WE'RE FINDING TODAY IT

IS VERY LITERAL.

IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

Chris: HERSHEY SAYS

THE BOOK PROVIDES A VISUAL

OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO

HAVE NEVER VISITED ISRAEL,

AND IT HAS ALSO STRUCK A

CORD WITH THE YOUNGER

GENERATIONS.

MOST MILLENNIALS ARE

READY FOR SOMETHING REAL.

THEY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING

PRACTICAL.

AS FAR AS MUCH OF PERHAPS

THEOLOGY CHRISTIANITY,

THEY'RE READY FOR

SOMETHING SOLID.

THEY'RE READY FOR

SOMETHING REAL.

EVEN NOW, WHEN I SPEAK IN

THE STATES, SOMETIMES

THEY'LL HAVE QUESTIONS

ABOUT THEOLOGY OR

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAND,

AND USUALLY MY ANSWER

REVOLVES AROUND, LET ME

SHOW YOU.

COME WITH ME TO ISRAEL AND

I'LL SHOW YOU MYSELF.

Chris: AS ISRAEL

CELEBRATES ITS 70th

ANNIVERSARY, HERSHEY SEE

ISRAEL AS A MIRACLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

ISRAEL IS THE TIME CLOCK,

AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD

AND HAVE SAID.

I BELIEVE THAT AS WELL.

THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS

HAPPENING HERE IN A VERY

SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

TO ME, IT IS ONE OF THE

MOST PROFOUND MIRACLES OF

OUR DAY.

Chris: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Gordon: THE DESERT IS

BLOOMING, AND IT IS

WONDERFUL TO SEE.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE OF

ISRAEL'S MIRACULOUS

JOURNEY, FROM UNFORGIVING

DESERT LAND TO A THRIVING

NATION, GET A COPY OF DOUG

HERSHEY'S NEW BOOK, AND

IT'S CALLED "ISRAEL

RISING," AND IT IS

AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS

ARE SOLD.

IT IS REAL STARK TO SEE

THE PICTURES, AND YOU

START SEEING THAT TEL AVIV

WAS LITERALLY BUILT ON

SAND DUNES OUT OF NOTHING,

AND NOW THE VIBRANT

METROPOLIS.

Terry: IT IS PROPHECY

ON PAPER COME TO PASS.

IT IS REMARKABLE.

EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW IT

HAS HAPPENED, TO SEE THAT

IS THE COMPLETION, THE

FULFILLMENT OF WHAT WAS

SPOKEN.

WOW, THAT'S PRETTY

POWERFUL.

> COMING UP, A FORMER

ALL-AMERICAN GOALKEEPER

FOR L.S.U., AND THE FIRST

FEMALE EVER TO TRY OUT AND

TRAIN FOR A DIVISION ONE

MEN'S FOOTBALL TEAM.

NOW A SPEAKER AND

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, MO

ISOM JOINS US LIVE TO TALK

ABOUT SEX, JESUS, AND THE

CONVERSATIONS THE CHURCH

Terry: MO ISOM IS NOT

DEFINED BY HER SEXUAL

PAST, BUT SHE BELIEVES THE

TIME HAS COME TO TALK

ABOUT IT, AND THE TO ASK

THE QUESTION IN A WORLD

OBSESSED WITH SEX, WHY IS

THE CHURCH RELATIVELY

SILENT ABOUT IT?

TAKE A LOOK.

WE NEED TO TALK.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SEX,

LUST, PERFECT BODIES,

MASTERBATION.

WE'RE OBSESSED WITH SEX,

DROWNING IN TEMPTATION.

SEX IS IN THE OPEN, BUT

OUR SHAME MUST BE KEPT

HIDDEN, BECAUSE EVEN

THOUGH WE'RE SURROUNDED BY

IT, NOBODY WANTS TO TALK

ABOUT IT.

WE NEED TO TALK.

THE CHURCH, WE'RE LOOKING

LIKE HYPOCRITES BECAUSE

WE'RE OFTEN SILENT, OR

WORSE, MISGUIDED.

SURE, I HAD VIRGINITY

VOWS, BUT IT DIDN'T STOP

ME FROM PORNOGRAPHY, WHICH

LED ME INTO PROMISCUITY.

IN THE OUTSIDE, CHURCH

GIRLS LOOKED GOOD, BUT

BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, IT

WAS A DIFFERENT STORY.

Terry: MO ISOM JOINS

ME NOW.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Terry: AS I LISTENED

TO WHAT YOU SHARE IN THAT

VIDEO, SO MUCH OF ANYTHING

THAT IS SEXUAL, THAT IS

SHAMEFUL, STAYS BEHIND

CLOSED DOORS.

YEAH.

Terry: SO I'M

ASSUMING THAT'S THE REASON

FOR THIS?

THAT'S THE HEART OF THE

BOOK.

I DESIRED DEEPLY TO POUR

OUT MY MESS, AND THE POWER

OF THE REDEMPTION THAT

JESUS OFFERS US, NO MATTER

WHAT OUR SEXUAL PAST LOOKS

LIKE, NORTE IN ORDER TO CATALYST

THIS CONVERSATION.

WE NEED TO BE, FIRST OFF,

UNDERSTANDING IN OUR

HEARTS AND THEN IMPACTING

THE CULTURE AND SPEAKING

TRUTH INTO.

Terry: AND IMPACTING

THE CHURCH.

BECAUSE THE THINGS YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT JUST

OUT THERE SOMEWHERE --

THEY'RE RIGHT WITHIN THE

FOUR WALLS OF THE CHURCH.

YEAH, IT IS STARTLING.

Terry: GO BACK TO

WHEN YOU WERE NINE YEARS

OLD.

WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR

LIFE?

YES.

I WAS BROUGHT UP BY

WONDERFUL, GOD-FEARING

PARENTS, WHO WORKED TO

SPEAK TRUTH INTO ME IN

THAT CAPACITY.

BUT, UM, CONVERSATIONS

WERE KIND OF INCOMPLETE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK

ABOUT VIRGINITY BUT NOT

TRULY PURITY.

AND THEN AT NINE YEARS

OLD, I CAME ACROSS

PORNOGRAPHY FROM MY DAD'S

BELONGINGS.

AND THAT SEARED TOGETHER

IN ME.

EVEN JUST THE SIGHT OF IT.

AND IT BECAME SOMETHING I

DIDN'T RUN FROM IN SHAME.

I ACTUALLY HAD GREAT

CURIOSITY ABOUT AND SOUGHT

OUT.

AND PORNOGRAPHY BECAME A

STRUGGLE FOR ME FOR A

DECADE, WHICH ALSO SORT OF

DESENSITIZED ME AND LED

INTO PROMISCUITY AND

ACTING THINGS OUT OUT THAT I

SAW, AND SAW AS POWERFUL

AND BEAUTIFUL, AND ALL THE

THINGS OUR WORLD DECLARES

AROUND SEX.

Terry: SO HOW DID

JESUS REDEFINE YOU?

WHEN WE ARE SURROUNDED BY

THAT AND IMMERSED IN IT,

IT ACTUALLY GETS INTO US,

AND IT CHANGES OUR IMAGE.

HOW DID JESUS THEN

RESCULPT YOUR IMAGE FOR

YOU?

SEXUAL SIN SO

DEHUMANIZES US AND OTHERS

IN OUR SIGHT.

IT IS HOW WE CAN LOOK AT

PORN AND SEE IT AS BODY

PARTS RATHER THAN IMAGES

CREATED BY GOD.

BUT WHAT IS SO AMAZING IS

CHRIST'S INCREDIBLE

COMPASSION AND MERCY.

WHEN HE INTERSECTEDE INTERSECTED MY

LIFE, I WAS BROUGHT FROM

DEATH TO LIFE.

AND MY PRAYER BECAME,

OKAY, GOD, BREAK MY HEART

FOR WHAT BREAKS YOURS, AND

BIND MY HEART TO THEE.

GIVE ME EYES TO THE SEE

THE WORLD AS YOU YO DO.

GIVE ME EARS TO HEAR THE

CRIES OF THE HURTING.

I WOULD CHALLENGE EVERYONE

TO PRAY THAT.

GIVE ME EYES TO SEE THE

WORLD THAT YOU DO.

MY VISION BEGAN TO CHANGE.

I BEGAN TO SEE THE WAYS WE

HAD TAKEN THIS BEAUTIFUL

GIFT HE HAS GIVEN US AND

CHEAPENED IT AND PERVERTED

IT, AND WORSHIPPED IT,

REALLY.

AND I BEGAN TO SEE MYSELF

AS A NEW CREATION.

UNDERSTAND WHO'S I WAS,

AND UNS THE BEAUTIFU UNDERSTAND WHO I WAS

IN HIM.

> WHEN WE DON'T GO

DEEPER IN UNDERSTANDING

WHAT GOD TRULY CARES MOST

ABOUT OUR HEART CONDITION,

WE LEAD PEOPLE TOWARDS

BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION

VERSUS HEART

TRANSFORMATION.

AND GOD ALWAYS CARES MOST

PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE

HEART.

PURE ACTIONS COME FROM A

PURE HEART.

SO I UNDERSTOOD A LOT

ABOUT VIRGINITY, BUT WE'RE

SINNERS, AND I WANTED TO

RATIONALIZE AND UNDERSTAND

WHAT COUNTS?

HOW FAR IS TOO FAR?

AM I STILL A VIRGIN?

WHEN I CAME TO KNOW

CHRIST, THERE WAS JUST

THIS RECKONING OF, I DON'T

WANT A WORK SPACE ANSWER

TO A LIFE-BASED QUESTION.

I WANT ALL OF YOUR HEART

AND ALL OF YOUR SOUL.

I CARE DEEPLY FOR THE

CONDITION OF YOUR HEART,

NOT JUST WHAT SYSTEMATIC

OUTPOURING IS, WHAT YOUR

LIFE LOOKS LIKE.

IF WE CAN ALLOW GOD TO DO

THE HEART WORK IN US,

VIRGINITY BECOMES A

BEAUTIFUL BY-PRODUCT.

AND IT IS NOT THE SOLE

RULE-FOLLOWING FOCUS, BUT

A SURRENDERED LIFE THAT

THAT IS A RESULT OF.

Terry: MANY OF THESE

IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND

UNDERSTANDINGS CAME TO YOU

YOU BEFORE YOBEFORE YOU WERE MARRIED.

BUT YOU HAD LITTLE IDEA

THAT SOME OF OF THE PAIN THE PAIN OF

THE PAST WOULD COME INTO

YOUR MARRIAGE.

HOW DID THAT AFFECT YOU

YOU?

WE OFTEN BELIEVE IF I

STAND AT THE ALTER AND SAY

"I DO," MY SEXUAL

TESTIMONY IS ALL THE PAST.

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS --

MY SISTER SAID, PRIOR TO

MARRIAGE, THE ENEMY WILL

DO EVERYTHING TO DRIVE US

TOGETHER.

AFTER MARRIAGE, HE'LL DO

EVERY HE CAN TO DRIVE US

APART.

THAT MEANS USING

BROKENNESS FROM OUR PAST,

SHAME, GUILT, UNREPENTANT

SIN, HE'LL USE IT TO

CONFUSE US IN MARRIAGE.

IT ALSO MEANS THESE KIND

OF FALSE EXPECTATIONS THAT

I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK,

THESE MISUNDERSTANDINGS

ABOUT SEX AS A WHOLE.

Terry: OUR WHOLE

CULTURE SATURATES PEOPLE

WITH THAT --

YUP.

Terry: KIDS WITH

THAT.

YES.

THE CULTURE HAS A LOT TO

SAY ABOUT SEX.

IT IS THE LOUDEST THING WE

SCREAM ABOUT --

Terry: EVERYWHERE.

AND YET THERE IS NO

GREAT SOURCE OF THAT

UNDERSTANDING.

THERE IS NO GREAT SOURCE

OF WHAT WE'RE TAUGHT.

IT IS SORT OF A PANDORA'S

BOX, WITH LOTS OF

DIFFERENT THER THOUGHTS AND

IDEAS.

WHEN WE CAN COME BACK TO

THE SOURCE, THE TRUTH, THE

WORD OF GOD, WE CAN SEE

THAT GOD HAS A LOT TO SAY

ABOUT SEX.

IN FACT, HE IS THE ONE WHO

INVENTED IT.

Terry: SO WHY DOESN'T

THE CHURCH SAY MORE ABOUT

IT?

IF GOD SAYS IT AND THE

INSTRUCTION BOOK IS WHERE

WE'RE TO LEARN, WHAT

SHOULD THE CHURCH BE

SAYING ABOUT IT?

HONESTLY, I THINK WE AS

A CHURCH, THE BODY OF

BELIEVERS AS A WHOLE, WE

HAVE TO STEP UP AND

RECLAIM SEX FOR THE GLORY

OF GOD.

WE'VE GOT TO RECKON WITH

AND WRESTLE THROUGH THE

ISSUES IN OUR OWN HEART.

WE PERSONALLY NEED TO

UNDERSTAND THE FULLNESS OF

WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT SEX

AND THE INCREDIBLE POWER

OF WHO JESUS IS IN LIGHT

OF OUR SEXUAL SIN.

THIS IS THE JESUS WHO SAT

WITH THE WHORE AT THE WELL

AND OFFERED HIS LIVING

WATER.

THIS IS THE JESUS WHO SAW

THE ADULTERESS TO BE

STONED BUT DIDN'T CONDEMN

HER.

THIS IS THE GOD WHO USE

RAHAB, THE PROSTITUTE.

SO GOD HAS A LOT TO SAY

ABOUT REDEMPTION THERE,

TOO.

WE MUST COME TO KNOW THAT

HEALING AND WHOLENESS IN

OUR HEART.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO STEP

PAST THIS TABOO FEELING,

THIS UNCOMFORTABLE

FEELING, THIS SHAME THAT

WE'VE OFTEN BEEN SILENCED

BY.

WE MUST BE BOLD AND

COURAGEOUS, EMPOWERED BY

THE HOLY SPIRIT, TO BOAST

IN OUR WEAKNESSES SO WE

CAN POINT TO THE GLORY OF

THE CROSS.

WHEN WE, AS THE CHURCH,

CAN RISE UP AND SAY, WE'RE

WRESTLING AND STRUGGLING

WITH THIS, TOO, IT SENDS

AN INVITATION TO PEOPLE TO

SAY, THEY'RE NOT JUST

PRETTY PEOPLE BEHIND THOSE

FOUR WALLS; THEY'RE HUMAN,

JUST LIKE ME.

AND WHAT IS TRUTH IN LIGHT

OF ALL OF THIS I'M

WRESTLING WITH?

Terry: IT IS SUCH AN

IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT

SUBJECT IN OUR WORLD

TODAY, NOT JUST FOR ALL OF

US AS GROWNUPS, BUT FOR

OUR CHILDREN.

MO'S BOOK IS AVAILABLE

WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.

IT IS A MUST READ FOR

EVERYONE WHO IS A BELIEVER

AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT.

MO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

Terry: IT IS GREAT TO

HAVE YOU HERE.

MY PLEASURE.

Gordon: STILL AHEAD,

A MUSLIM MAN'S CHILDREN

ARE TORMENTED BY EVIL

SPIRITS FOR FOUR YEARS.

THEY STARTED MAKING

SCHEDULES.

AND THEY HAD REALLY SCARY

FACES.

THEY CAME TO THEIR BED AND

STARTED SHAKING MY KIDS.

HE WAS IN THE BED AND HE

WAS SHOWING FISTS.

HE WAS SITTING IN HIS BED

AND SCREAMING.

Gordon: SEE WHO HE

TURNED TO FOR HELP.

DON'T GO AWAY.

Gordon: WHEN A MUSLIM

MAN NAMED ISHMAIL BEGAN

DABBLING IN THE OCCULT,

THE DEMONIC SPIRITS BEGAN

DABBLING WITH HIS

CHILDREN.

Reporter: ACCORDING

TO THE LATEST CENSUS,

MUSLIM POPULATION IN

AUSTRALIA HAS SOARED TO

MORE THAN 600,000 PEOPLE,

MAKING ISLAM THE MOST

POPULAR AND FAST-GROWING

NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGION IN

THE COUNTRY.

BUT WHILE EXTREME

ISLAMIZATION POSSESS A

THREAT TO AUSTRALIAN

SOCIETY, THERE ARE MUSLIMS

WHO HAVE MADE DECISIONS TO

LEAVE THEIR DECISION AND

EMBRACE CHRISTIANITY.

WE HEAR OF MANY STORIES

ALL AROUND THE WORLD OF

MUSLIMS CONVERTING TO

CHRISTIANITY THROUGH

DREAMS AND VISIONS.

HERE IN AUSTRALIA, WE MET

A MUSLIM MAN WHO'S FAMILY

WAS TORMENTED BY THE

DEVIL, UNTIL HE

EXPERIENCED A SUPERNATURAL

ENCOUNTER WITH JESUS.

IS MAIMAIL IS A TURKISH

MUSLIM.

HE MIGRATED TO AUSTRALIA

WHEN HE WAS 19.

ALTHOUGH HE PRACTICED

ISLAM, HE CONSIDERED

HIMSELF A MODERATE MUSLIM

BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD

QUESTIONS ABOUT GOD AND

ISLAM.

I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT

GOD, ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL

REALMS.

IS WITCHCRAFT FROM GOD OR

IS IT FROM THE DEVIL?

Reporter: IN HIS

SEARCH FOR ANSWERS, HE GOT

INVOLVED WITH THE OCCULT,

NOT KNOWING THAT HE OPENED

HIMSELF TO DEMONIC

SPIRITS.

HE MET A TURKISH MUSLIM

WHO CALLED SPIRITS, USING

THE QUIJA BOARD AND A

COFFEE CUP.

ISMAIL CONTINUED WITH HIS

ACTIVITY WITH THE SPIRITS

WORLD UNTIL THE

MANIFESTATIONS OF THE

DEVIL BECAME MORE AND MORE

FRIGHTENING.

WE ARE MAKING COFFEE --

I'M MAKING MY OWN COFFEE

AND HE IS MAKING HIS OWN

COFFEE.

SO I'M STIRRING THE

COFFEE.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THE

COFFEE CUP, AND I'M SEEING

THIS CREATURE IN THIS

COFFEE.

ON THE LAST DAY, WHEN I

ACTUALLY WAS LEAVING HIS

HOUSE, HE SAID, LOOK, TWO

OF THEM ARE GOING WITH

YOU.

Reporter: FOR FOUR

YEARS, ISMAIL'S TWO SONS

WERE TORMENTED BY THE

DEVIL.

THEY STARTED MAKING

SKETCHES, REALLY SCARY

FACES, WITH RED EYES.

THEY KEPT SAYING, THEY

CAME TO OUR BED, AND THEY

STARTED SHAKING MY KIDS.

HE WAS IN THE BED, AND HE

WAS LITERALLY LIKE WITH

HIS FIST -- HE WAS SHOWING

FISTS.

HE WAS SITTING IN HIS BED

AND SCREAMING.

10, 15, 20 MINUTES -- I

CAN'T REMEMBER.

WE WERE NOT ABLE TO WAKE

HIM UP.

SO I LIED HIM DOWN FLAT,

AND I SAID, WHAT'S

HAPPENING?

HE STILL DIDN'T WAKE UP.

I FREAKED OUT.

Reporter: OUT OF HIS

FRUSTRATION, HE SOUGHT THE

HELP OF HIS IRANIAN

CHRISTIAN FRIEND, WHO

BROUGHT HIM TO A BIBLE

STUDY.

HERE HE SURRENDERED HIS

LIFE TO JESUS.

AND I'M SEEING THIS

FIGURE.

HE'S HOLDING HIS HANDS UP

LIKE THIS, TOWARDS ME, AND

I COULD TELL HE IS

SMILING.

I COULD NOT -- ALL I WAS

SEEING WAS JUST THIS LIGHT

COMING EVERYWHERE I.

IT JUST WAS AMAZING.

I ACTUALLY FELL IN LOVE

WITH HIM.

AND THAT'S HOW I

CONVERTED.

Reporter: THE PASTOR

INSTRUCTED ISMAIL TO PRAY

FOR TWO WEEKS, COMMANDING

THE DEMONS TO LEAVE THEIR

HOME.

EVERY NIGHT I WAS

PRAYING.

I WAS SAYING, IN THE NAME

OF JESUS CHRIST, YOU HAVE

NO AUTHORITY HERE.

YOU DEMONS LEAVE IN JESUS'

NAME.

Reporter: HIS

CHILDREN STOPPED HAVING

NIGHTMARES.

SINCE THEN, ISMAIL

HUNGERED FOR THE WORD AND

BEGAN READING THE BIBLE.

HE COMPARED WHAT THE BIBLE

SAID WITH THE TEACHINGS IN

THE QURAN.

THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE

BOOK -- NOBODY CAN FIND

ANYWHERE WHERE ALLAH SAYS,

IF YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL

GO TO HEAVEN.

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, AND

THAT'S IF YOU GET MARTYRED

AND IN THE WAY OF JIHAD.

I KNOW NOW THE TRUTH.

JESUS IS AS REAL AND YOU

AND ME.

HE HAS CREATED US.

AND ONLY THROUGH HIS BLOOD

WE CAN COME TO GOD THE

FATHER.

HE IS AN AMAZING,

COMPASSIONATE, GRACEFUL,

FORGIVING GOD.

Gordon: AND HE WILL

BE GRACEFUL, COMPASSIONATE

COMPASSIONATE, A FORGIVING

GOD -- HE WILL BE THAT FOR

YOU IF YOU JUST LET HIM.

HERE IS AN INCREDIBLE

ENCOUNTER WITH THE LIVING

SAVIOR, WHO SHOWED HIMSELF

STRONG, BE THEN GAVE HIM

THE FAITH HE NEEDED TO GET

RID OF THOSE OPPRESSING

SPIRITS.

JUST IMAGINE YOUR CHILDREN

BEING TORMENTED THAT WAY

IN THEIR SLEEP AT NIGHT.

AND HE BROUGHT PEACE TO

THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE HE IS

THE KING OF PEACE, THE

PRINCE OF PEACE.

IF YOU WANT THIS, IF YOU

WANT TO KNOW HIM AND NO

LONGER GET A VIEW THAT

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