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The 700 Club - May 2, 2018

See a side of Scott Ross that you’ve never seen before as he and his wife take a look back at fifty years of ministry and marriage. Plus, after two miscarriages, once couple experiences a fight for life and an answered prayer on today's 700 Club. Read Transcript


Announcer: THE

INFORMING PROGRAM IS

SPONSORED BY CBN.

Wendy: COMING UP...A

SIDE OF SCOTT ROSS YOU'VE

NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

I WENT TO CHURCH, BUT I

STOOD IN THE PARKING LOT

AND GOT HIGH FIRST.

Wendy: HE AND HIS

WIFE LOOK BACK AT 50 YEARS

OF MINISTRY AND MARRIAGE.

I SAID, GOD, HE'S NOT

LISTENING.

YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO HIM.

IF ANYTHING, IT WAS US

AGAINST THE WORLD.

Wendy: THEN...AFTER

TWO MISCARRIAGES, A FIGHT

FOR LIFE AND AN ANSWERED

PRAYER.

THAT MIRACLE BABY CAME

OUT WITH A FIGHT AND IT

WAS JUST SO EXCITING.

Wendy: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS

DOING MARVELOUS THINGS IN

THE FOREIGN POLICY ARENA.

HE IS COMING UP AGAINST

SYRIA AND THEIR CHEMICAL

WEAPONS.

HE IS GOING TO NORTH KOREA

TO MEET WITH KIM UN. KIM JONG-UN.

HE IS MAKING TRADE

DECISIONS, DEALING WITH

MAJOR ISSUES, AND IT IS

LIKE A BUNCH OF YAPPING

DOGS, MUELLER AND THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE

F.B.I., TRYING TO BRING

TRUMP DOWN.

AND THE LATEST IS

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

THERE WAS A COLUMN IN THE

"WALL STREET JOURNAL"

ABOUT A WEEK AGO, SAYING,

WHY DOESN'T THE PRESIDENT

GET A TEAM OF EXPERTS

TOGETHER ON CONSTITUTIONAL

LAW AND THEN GO TO THE

SUPREME COURT AND GET A

DECLARATORY JUDGMENT THAT

A PRESIDENT CANNOT

OBSTRUCT JUSTICE.

AND THAT IS THE CASE.

THE PRESIDENT, WHO DEALS

WITH HIS OWN STAFF, CAN'T

OBSTRUCT JUSTICE IF HE

ASKS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

HOW A CASE IS GOING AND

WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE

CASE?

THAT IS WHAT THE ATTORNEY

GENERAL IS SUPPOSED TO

TELL THE PRESIDENT.

THE PRESIDENT IS THE HEAD

OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY ACT LIKE IT IS

SOME INDEPENDENT BRANCH,

AND IT IS NOT.

BUT THEY HAVE TAPES NOW

FROM F.B.I. AGENTS WHO

WERE TRYING TO SAY, HOW

CAN WE DERAIL TRUMP SO HE

CAN'T GET ELECTED AND

HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE

ELECTED?

IT IS SHOCKING.

AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

IS NOW STONEWALLING

CONGRESS.

I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS

A MESS THAT NEEDS TO GET

CLEANED OUT.

BUT IF PRESIDENT TRUMP

WON'T AGREE TO BE

INTERVIEWED BY ROBERT

MUELLER OVER THE RUSSIAN

INVESTIGATION, THEN IS HE

GOING TO TRY TO HAUL THE

PRESIDENT IN FRONT OF A

GRAND JURY?

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE LEAKED

THOSE QUESTIONS, WHICH WE

UNDERSTAND NOW JAY SEKULOW

WROTE, AND THEY'RE COMING

OUT -- JAY WON'T COME ON

CAMERA BECAUSE HE IS

KEEPING QUIET.

BUT HE HAS BEEN DOING A

GREAT JOB AS THE

PRESIDENT'S LAWYER.

Wendy: YES, WE'RE

VERY PROUD OF HIM.

THE PRESIDENT'S LEGAL TEAM

IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

HOW TO RESPOND TO

MUELLER'S WARNING.

AMBER C. STRONG HAS THIS

STORY FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: ROBERT

MUELLER THREATENED TO

SUBPOENA PRESIDENT TRUMP

TO APPEAR BEFORE THE GRAND

JURY IF HE REFUSES TO SIT

DOWN FOR AN INTERVIEW.

ACCORDING TO THAT REPORT

FROM THE "WASHINGTON

POST," THE PRESIDENT'S

LEAD LAWYER AT THE TIME

RESPONDED BY SAYING,

QUOTE, "THIS ISN'T SOME

GAME.

YOU'RE SCREWING WITH THE

WORK OF THE PRESIDENT OF

THE UNITED STATES."

THAT POST STORY CAME ON

THE HEELS OF THE "NEW YORK

TIMES" REPORT THAT LISTS

49 QUESTIONS THE MUELLER

TEAM HAS FOR THE

PRESIDENT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET

INTO A BACK AND FORTH

ABOUT QUESTIONS LEAKED OR

ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH

THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.

Reporter: ONE OF THE

TOPICS ON THE LIST:

COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA

DURING THE 2016

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

President Trump:

RUSSIAN COLLUSION, GIVE ME

A BREAK.

Reporter: THE

PRESIDENT HAS REPEATEDLY

DENIED THERE WAS ANY

COLLUSION.

THIS RUSSIA THING WITH

TRUMP AND RUSSIA IS A

MADE-UP STORY.

Reporter: AND HE

DOUBLED DOWN ON TWITTER ON

TUESDAY, "I SEE YOU HAVE A

MADE-UP CRIME, COLLUSION,

THAT NEVER EXISTED."

AND SEVERAL TOPICS CENTER

IN ON WHETHER THE

PRESIDENT IS GUILTY OF

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE,

INCLUDING DECISIONS TO

FIRE THE F.B.I. DIRECTOR,

JAMES COMEY, LIKE WHEN WAS

IT MADE, WHY, AND WHO

PLAYED A ROLE?

President Trump: WAS

GOING TO FIRE COMEY.

I WAS GOING TO FIRE COMEY.

Reporter: AND THERE

ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING

THAT 2017 INTERVIEW WITH

NBC'S LESTER HOT.

CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF ON

THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE

COMMITTEE SAYS,

"OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IS

SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE

SHOULD BE CONCERNED

ABOUT."

WE HERE AT THE WHITE

HOUSE TRY NEVER TO BE

CONCERNED WITH ANYTHING

DEALING WITH ADAM SCHIFF.

Reporter: AND AS FAR

AS THE LEGITIMACY OF THE

TRUMP PRESIDENCY, DESPITE

THE GROWING TENSIONS AND

MOUNTING LEGAL BATTLES...

I THINK THE FACT THAT

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS CAME

OUT AND VOTED FOR AND

CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS

PRESIDENCY MAKE THEM

PRE-LEGITIMATE.

Reporter: JUST

ANOTHER SIGN THIS

INVESTIGATION IS FAR FROM

OVER.

NOW THOSE 49 QUESTIONS

COULD ACTUALLY BE THE

STARTING POINT TO MORE

QUESTIONS AND TO A MUCH

LONGER INTERVIEW WITH THE

PRESIDENT THAT COULD TAKE

DAYS, IF IT ACTUALLY

HAPPENS.

AMBER C. STRONG, CBN NEWS

IN WASHINGTON.

Pat: THANK YOU,

AMBER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT

WOULD BE UTTER INSANITY

FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES TO SIT DOWN

FOR A FAR-RANGING

INTERVIEW.

THINK OF THE QUESTION,

WHAT WAS IN YOUR MIND WHEN

YOU HEARD THERE WAS A

SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT HAD

BEEN APPOINTED.

AND TRUMP SAID, I DIDN'T

HAVE ANYTHING IN MY MIND

AT ALL.

THEN FLASH TO SOME TWEET

THAT HE MADE 20 YEARS AGO,

OR 10 YEARS AGO, OR FIVE

YEARS AGO, WHEN THEY SAY,

WELL, YOU SAID THIS, AND

THEREFORE YOUR GUILTY OF

PERJURY, SO WE'RE GOING TO

BRING A CASE AGAINST YOU

FOR PERJURY.

THAT'S HOW THEY CAN GET

HIM.

THAT'S WHY HE, UNDER NO

CIRCUMSTANCES, SHOULD DO

THAT.

NOW THEY THINK THEY'LL

HAUL THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES BEFORE A

GRAND JURY TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS TO THIS CLOWN

MUELLER?

NO WAY.

ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.

THIS MAN HAS BEEN SHOWN TO

BE FLAWED OVER AND OVER

AGAIN.

HE IS NOT THE COWBOY OR

BOY SCOUT EVERYBODY MAKES

HIM TO BE.

HE HAS PURSUED THINGS -- I

REMEMBER THE CASE AGAINST

SCOOTER LIBBY WAS

ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS,

OUTRAGEOUS.

PATRICK FITZGERALD KNEW IN

ADVANCE WHO LEAKED THE

NAME OF VALERIE PLAIN, BUT

IT BRINGS IT ANYHOW.

THEN HE GRILLS LIBBY UNTIL

HE MAKES ONE STATEMENT

THAT ISN'T TRUE, AND THEN

HE CONVICTS HIM OF

PERJURY.

IT IS OUTRAGEOUS.

DAVID BRODY IS WITH US NOW

FROM WASHINGTON, AND,

DAVID -- I'M PRESIDENT OF

THE CENTER FOR LAW AND

JUSTICE, SO I KNOW SOME

THINGS I CAN'T TALK ABOUT,

BUT HOW IS THE TRUMP LEGAL

TEAM RESPONDING TO THAT

THREAT OF A SUBPOENA?

David: LET'S GO

RIGHT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP

AND HOW IS HE RESPONDING.

IT IS ON TWITTER, AND IT

IS WEDNESDAY, AND HE IS

TWEETING.

AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT

THERE IS NO CONCLUSION.

NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

IS WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS

TWEET.

AND THEN HE SAYS, "IT'S A

TRAP."

HE USES THE WORD "TRAP."

IF HE IS NOW ON TWITTER

TALKING ABOUT HOW IT IS A

TRAP, THERE IS NO WAY HE

IS GOING TO SIT DOWN,

OBVIOUSLY, WITH MUELLER

AND HIS TEAM.

SOURCES A FEW MONTHS AGO

IN TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM WERE

SAYING THEY WANTED HIM TO

SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH HIM

OR E-MAIL QUESTIONS -- BUT

THAT IS PRETTY MUCH OUT

THE WINDOW AT THIS POINT.

THAT TRAIN HAS LEFT THE

STATION.

Pat: THEY LEAKED

THOSE QUESTIONS, AND SOME

THOUGHT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN

WRITTEN UP BY JAY SEKULOW.

WHO'S QUESTIONS ARE THEY?

DO YOU HAVE ANY ANSWER TO

THAT ONE?

David: WELL, THAT IS

A BUILT TIGHT-LIPPED, AND

PROBABLY FOR GOOD REASON.

I DO KNOW THIS: IT DOES

SEEM LIKE WE'RE HEADING

TOWARDS A CONSTITUTIONAL

SHOWDOWN OVER ARTICLE 2 IN

THAT CONSTITUTION THAT WE

KNOW SO WELL.

LOOK, THE SUPREME COURT

TECHNICALLY REALLY HAS

NEVER OFFICIALLY WEIGHED

IN ON WHETHER OR NOT AN

INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, IF

YOU WILL, CAN SUBPOENA A

PRESIDENT.

YES, MONICA LEWINSKY AND

BILL CLINTON HAPPENED IN

1998, AND IT WAS A CIVIL

CASE.

AND WE KNOW ABOUT RICHARD

NIXON AND 1974, BUT THIS

PARTICULAR CASE IS

PROBABLY GOING TO GO ALL

THE WAY TO THE SUPREME

COURT.

WHY?

WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP

LOVE TO DO?

HE LOVES TO GO TO COURT

AND FIGHT, AND FIGHT

REALLY HARD.

IT HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT

LITIGATION WITH DONALD

TRUMP, ESPECIALLY IN THE

BUSINESS WORLD, AND I

DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING

ANY TIME SOON.

Pat: WELL, THEY ADDED

RUDRUDY GIULANI TO THE TEAM,

AND HE IS AN EXPERIENCED

FEDERAL LITIGATOR AND HE

WAS U.S. ATTORNEY AND, OF

COURSE, MAYOR OF NEW YORK.

I THINK JAY SEKULOW HAS

BEEN THE LEAD OF IT, WHEN

JOHN DOWD RESIGNED.

AND THE REASON HE RESIGNED

WAS BECAUSE HE WAS TELLING

THE PRESIDENT YOU CAN'T DO

THIS, AND TRUMP GOT HIS

HACKLES UP ON THAT ONE.

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT

THAT?

David: GIULIANI IS

DOING HIS LEVEL BEST TO

TRY TO FIGURE THIS THING

OUT.

HE KNOWS MUELLER.

THEY'RE CLOSE FRIENDS.

AND AS DONALD TRUMP

POINTED OUT IN "THE ART OF

THE DEAL," EVERYTHING IS

RELATIONAL, AND EVERYTHING

IS TRANSACTIONAL AS WELL.

AND GIULIANI AND MUELLER

HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP, SO

YOU HOPE SOMETHING WILL

WORK OUT.

BUT MY SENSE IS THAT THAT

WON'T WORK, EITHER, AND

THIS THING SEEMS TO BE

HEADED FOR A HIGH

COURTROOM DRAMA.

Pat: THE SPECIAL

COUNSEL IS NOT ALLOWED TO

GO BEYOND THE MANDATE

GIVEN HIM BY THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT.

OF COURSE, ROSENSTEIN SET

OUT SOME BOUNDARIES AND

SAID YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

INVESTIGATE THE

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TRUMP

AND THE RUSSIANS.

AND SUDDENLY HE WANTS TO

INVESTIGATE HIS BUSINESS

DEALINGS.

AND THEN THEY RAIDED HIS

LAWYER AND SEIZED

CONFIDENTIAL

ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED

DOCUMENTS.

DON'T THE TRUMP LAWYERS

THINK THAT MUELLER HAS

DONE TOO FAR?

David: THERE IS NO

DOUBT THAT THEY THINK

THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, PRESIDEN PRESIDENT TRUMP

THINKS THAT.

THAT WAS A KEY TURNING

POINT.

THIS HAS DEEP STATE ALL

OVER IT FROM THE TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION'S

STANDPOINT, OR AT LEAST

DONALD TRUMP'S STANDPOINT

FOR SURE.

YOU HAVE JAMES COMEY, WHO

WAS ON THAT BOOK TOUR.

AND JAMES COMEY TALKED

ABOUT HOW HE DOESN'T LEAK,

AND THEN HE LEAKED.

HE TALKED ABOUT HE WANTS

JUSTICE DONE, AND THEN HE

IS OUT ON A BOOK TOUR IN

THE MIDDLE OF AN ACTIVE

INVESTIGATION.

AND THIS IDEA, WHEN DONALD

TRUMP TALKS ABOUT A WITCH

HUNT AND THOSE IN THE

MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND

OTHERS SORT OF LAUGH IT

OFF, BUT IN DEEP RED, THAT

PLAYS VERY WELL.

I BELIEVE, PAT, THAT WHAT

EVANGELICALS NEED TO

UNDERSTAND VERY CLEARLY

THAT THIS IS NOT

NECESSARILY THE MID-TERM

ELECTIONS COME UP IN 2018.

DONALD TRUMP IS ON THE

BALLOT.

I KNOW IT IS NOT 2020, BUT

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, HE

REALLY IS ON THE BALLOT

BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMES

TO A CRASHING HALT IF

DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL.

HE'LL PLAY THIS WITCH HUNT

CARD DURING THE MID-TERMS,

FOR SURE.

Pat: NANCY PELOSI

LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS GIVEN

THE REPUBLICANS A CARD TO

PLAY IN THOSE ELECTIONS.

YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT

THAT.

David: SHE CAME OUT

AND TALKED TO "THE BOSTON

GLOBE" AND SAID, WE'RE

GOING TO WIN THE HOUSE.

BASICALLY, SHE IS

MEASURING THE DRAPES.

AND SHE STARTED TALKING

ABOUT WHO SHE WOULD

APPOINT TO CERTAIN

COMMITTEES IN THE HOUSE.

IT IS REALLY PRETTY

REMARKABLE SHE WOULD GO

THAT FAR, IN ESSENCE,

MEASURE THE DRAPES, AND I

CALL IT POTENTIALLY THE

VERBAL KISS OF DEATH.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL.

I WILL SAY THIS:

EVANGELICALS ARE THE MOST

IMPORTANT FOLKS HERE IN

THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS.

WHEN MID-TERM ELECTIONS

HAPPEN, 26% OF THE

ELECTORATE IS MADE UP OF

EVANGELICALS.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO

BE 26% OF THE ELECTORATE,

OR NORTH OF THAT, FOR

DONALD TRUMP AND THE

REPUBLICANS TO KEEP

CONTROL OF CONGRESS, AND

DEFINITELY THE HOUSE.

Pat: DAVID, THANK YOU

FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.

CBN NEWS.

> IN OTHER NEWS,

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS

HONORED THE CREW AND

PASSENGER OF THAT

SOUTHWEST AIRLINES FLIGHT

THAT FACED AN EMERGENCY IN

THE AIR LAST MONTH.

EFREM GRAHAM HAS THAT.

Efrem: PAT, THE

PRESIDENT HAILED WHAT HE

CALLED THE TREMENDOUS

BRAVERY BY THOSE ABOARD

THE DAMAGED PLANE.

THE CREW WHO HELPED IT

COME DOWN SAFELY IN AN

EMERGENCY, AND PASSENGERS

WHO HELPED OUT.

THE FLIGHT WAS HEADED FROM

NEW YORK TO DALLAS LAST

MONTH, WHEN AN ENGINE

EXPLODED AT 30,000 FEET.

PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO PAID

TRIBUTE TO THE PASSENGER

WHO DIED ON THE PLANE,

JENNIFER RIODAN.

AND HE PRAISED.

PILOT.

President Trump: I

WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR

YOUR LIFE-SAVING ACTIONS.

EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT

IT, AND THEY'LL BE TALKING

ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.

I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE ONE

OF THE FIRST WOMEN EVER TO

FLY TACTICAL FIGHTER

AIRCRAFT IN THE UNITED

STATES NAVY.

YOU DREW FROM YEARS OF

TRAINING AND SAFETY, AND

YOU KNEW HOW TO LAND THAT

PLANE.

WE SALUTE YOU AND EVERY

MEMBER OF THIS CREW.

Efrem: IF YOU WOULD

LIKE TO ACT MANY MORE

YEARS TO YOUR LIFE, A NEW

STUDY SAYS FOLLOW THESE

HABITS: EATING HEALTHY,

KEEPING A HEALTHY WEIGHT,

REGULAR EXERCISE, ONLY

MODERATE ALCOHOL

CONSUMPTION, AND NO

SMOKING.

THAT ALL COMES FROM A

HARVARD STUDY OF THE

RECORDS OF 123,000 PEOPLE.

IT FOUND MEN WHO ADOPTED

ALL FIVE OF THESE HEALTHY

HABITS ADDED 12 YEARS TO

THEIR LIVES, WHILE WOMEN

ADDED 14.

Pat: 12 MORE FOR ME,

AND I'LL BE 100?

Wendy: 100!

Pat: I'M LOSING

WEALTH.

I'VE LOST ALL KINDS OF

WEIGHT.

Wendy: BUT YOU FEEL

GOOD?

Pat: I FEEL GOOD.

AND I EAT HEALTHY.

AND I WAS WORKING OUT HARD

YESTERDAY.

I'VE GOT A TOTAL GYM.

I REALLY RECOMMEND THE

TOTAL GYM.

YOU CAN DO 70 EXERCISES.

Wendy: I HAVEN'T

TRIED THE TOTAL GYM.

I JUST GO TO THE GYM.

BUT LAST NIGHT IT WAS SUCH

A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT, AND I

WAS JUST OUT WALKING FOR

ABOUT AT LEAST AN HOUR.

THE STARS WERE OUT.

THAT IS MY HAPPY TIME,

JUST GETTING OUT AND

WALKING.

Pat: YOU'RE FOLLOWING

ALL OF THE PRINCIPLES, AND

HOPEFULLY I AM, TOO.

THAT WILL ADD 12 MORE

YEARS.

THAT WILL GET ME TO 100.

Wendy: WE ARE

COUNTING ON IT, SIR.

Pat: FEAR NOT.

[LAUGHTER]

Wendy: GOOD NEWS.

ALL RIGHT.

> COMING UP, AN

INNOVATIVE WAY TO GET

QUALITY HEALTH CARE TO

THOSE WHO NEED IT THE

MOST.

EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT,

MY HEART WARMS A LITTLE

BIT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST

ONE PERSON THAT WE'RE ABLE

TO HELP A LITTLE MORE THAT

HADN'T HAD THE HELP

PREVIOUSLY.

Wendy: SEE WHAT IS

HELPING THESE DOCTORS HELP

THESE RURAL COMMUNITIES,

NEXT.

Pat: WELL, I'M

PLEASED TO REPORT THAT

REGENT UNIVERSITY HAS

OPENED A COLLEGE OF HEALTH

CARE SCIENCES, AND THERE

IS GOING TO BE A NURSING

PROGRAM.

AND THEY JUST HIRED A

DIRECTOR OF NURSING WHO IS

HIGHLY SKILLED.

AND I THINK THAT THEY'LL

BE GRADUATING PROBABLY A

THOUSAND NURSES A YEAR IN

TERMS OF ALL OF THE SKILLS

THAT ARE THERE.

NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND

OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE

DONE.

NURSES ARE SO MUCH IN

DEMAND THESE DAYS.

AND WE'LL HAVE A BACHELOR

OF SCIENCE IN NURSING, AND

ALSO A MASTER OF SCIENCE

AND A DOCTORATE IN

NURSING.

WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO

BRING MORE HEALTH CARE

PROVIDERS TO OUR SOCIETY.

BUT DO YOU REALIZE THAT

OUR GREAT NATION,

60 MILLION AMERICANS,

CAN'T COUNT ON ADEQUATE

MEDICAL CARE BECAUSE THERE

JUST AREN'T ENOUGH DOCTORS

WHERE THEY LIVE.

NURSE PRACTITIONERS CAN

FILL IN THE GAP, BUT,

STILL, THEY NEED DOCTORS.

AND PHYSICIANS ARE LIVING

AND WORKING CLOSER TO BIG

CITIES.

SO ONE CALIFORNIA COUNTY

IS UNDERTAKING A PLAN TO

ATTRACT MORE DOCTORS.

AS LORIE JOHNSON SHOWS, IT

CAN SERVE AS A MODEL FOR

OTHER COMMUNITIES.

HERE IS LORI.

Lorie: COMPARED TO

PATIENTS IN BIG CITIES, A

DIAGNOSIS OF CANCER, HEART

DISEASE, DIABETES AND

OTHER ILLNESSES CAN BE

MUCH WORSE FOR FOLKS

LIVING IN RURAL

COMMUNITIES, LARGELY

BECAUSE OF DOCTOR

SHORTAGES THERE.

NEW DOCTORS TEND TO LOCATE

NEAR THE MEDICAL SCHOOL

WHERE THEY COMPLETED THEIR

RESIDENCY, THE YEARS AFTER

GETTING THEIR M.D., WHEN

THEY TRAIN IN THEIR CHOSEN

FIELD.

MEDICAL SCHOOLS ARE

USUALLY LOCATED IN BIG

CITIES.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN

RIVERSIDE COUNTY,

CALIFORNIA, THANKS TO A

COMMUNITY-BASED MEDICAL

SCHOOL.

THE UNIVERSITY OF

CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE

ANSWERED PRAYERS WHEN IT

OPENED FIVE YEARS AGO

BECAUSE THE SHORTAGE OF

DOCTORS FORCED PEOPLE TO

EITHER GO WITHOUT MEDICAL

CARE OR DRIVE ALL THE WAY

TO LOS ANGELES FOR IT.

THERE ARE SOME VERY

REAL HEALTH ISSUES.

IF YOU'RE HAVING A STROKE,

YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO

BE 90 MINUTES AWAY FROM

YOUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF

HEALTH CARE.

Lorie: THAT'S WHY THE

MED SCHOOL'S PRIMARY

PURPOSE IS TO PLANT

DOCTORS IN UNDERSERVED

RIVERSIDE COUNTY.

THE DEAN BELIEVES ITS NEW

CROP OF 110 RESIDENTS WILL

GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS

MEETING THAT GOAL.

WHERE YOU FINISH THAT

TENDS TO BE PREDICTIVE OF

WHERE YOU ESTABLISH YOUR

PRACTICE AND THEN

SUBSEQUENTLY BE A

PRACTICING PHYSICIAN.

Lorie: IN ADDITION TO

LOCATION, MONEY IS A

STRONG FACTOR IN DECIDING

WHERE TO PUT DOWN ROOTS.

MANY NEW DOCTORS FEEL THE

NEED TO LAND HIGH-PAYING

JOBS TO PAY OFF THEIR

CRUSHING STUDENT LOAN

DEBT, WHICH OFTEN TOPS

$200,000.

THEY FIND HIGHER SALARIES

IN BIG CITIES.

U.C. RIVERSIDE ELIMINATES

THAT BURDEN BY OFFERING

FREE TUITION TO MED

STUDENTS WHO STAY IN THE

AREA AFTER COMPLETING

THEIR TRAINING.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M

100% COMMITTED TO STAYING

HERE.

I WOULD LIKE IDEALLY TO GO

TO RESIDENCY HERE, AND

ONCE GRADUATING TO STAY

WITHIN THIS AREA.

Lorie: AFTER GROWING

UP IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY,

MADELYNE KNOWS ALL TOO

WELL THE PAIN OF NOT

HAVING ACCESS TO MEDICAL

CARE.

I REALLY CONNECT WITH A

LOT OF THIS COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF THEM ARE HOMELESS

OR STRUGGLING BELOW

POVERTY LINE, HAVE KIND OF

ON AND OFF HEALTH

INSURANCE, WHICH ARE ALL

THINGS I ENCOUNTERED WHEN

I WAS YOUNGER.

Lorie: UNLIKE MANY

MEDICAL SCHOOLS, U.C.

RIVERSIDE DOESN'T BOTHER

WITH A BIG, EXPENSIVE

TEACHING HOSPITAL.

RESIDENTS HERE TRAIN AT

SMALLER HEALTH CARE

FACILITIES SCATTERED

ACROSS THE COUNTY.

OOBTHIS THERE ARE PATIENTS WHO

HAVE HAD NO PRE-NATAL CARE

AND THEY COME IN FOR

DELIVERY.

AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT

THEIR MEDICAL BACKGROUND

IS, IF THEY'VE EVER HAD

SURGERY BEFORE.

Lorie: RESEARCH SHOWS

MOST DOCTORS WOULD LIKE TO

SET UP SHOP NEAR FAMILY,

IF POSSIBLE.

U.C.R. MED'S ADMISSION

PROCESS TAKES ADVANTAGE OF

THAT DESIRE.

RECRUITING STUDENTS

FROM THIS REGION IS AN

ABSOLUTELY CENTRAL PILLAR

TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

Lorie: DR. DOUGLAS

GROVER, A RIVERSIDE

NATIVE, GRADUATED FROM

U.C.R. MED LAST YEAR.

I PLAN TO STAY IN THE

AREA AND GIVE BACK TO THE

COMMUNITY, WHERE I GREW UP

IN.

Lorie: AS A RESIDENT

IN PSYCHIATRY, HE FEELS

GOOD ABOUT PROVIDING

MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES

HERE.

THINGS AT HOME,

FAMILIES, BROKEN

RELATIONSHIPS -- THAT

REALLY AFFECTS THE YOUNGER

KIDS.

AND AT TIMES THEY DON'T

HAVE ANYBODY TO GO TO TO

TALK TO ABOUT IT.

Lorie: ANOTHER BIG

DIFFERENCE AT U.C.

RIVERSIDE, STUDENTS START

SEEING PATIENTS IN YEAR

ONE RATHER THAN WAITING

UNTIL THEIR THIRD YEAR.

THESE STUDENTS EVEN OPENED

A FREE CLINIC FOR FOLKS

WHO OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT

HAVE EVER SEEN A DOCTOR.

EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT,

MY HEART WARMS A LITTLE

BIT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST

ONE PERSON WE'RE ABLE TO

HELP A LITTLE BIT MORE

THAT HADN'T HAD THE HELP

PREVIOUSLY.

Lorie: SO WHILE

MEDICAL CARE DISAPPEARS IN

MANY RURAL AREAS,

RIVERSIDE COUNTY MAY HAVE

DISCOVERED THE ANTEDOTE:

OPEN A MEDICAL SCHOOL,

ADMIT LOCALS WITH A HEART

FOR THE UNDERSERVED, AND

PAY FOR THEIR EDUCATION

PROVIDED THEY DON'T TAKE

THEIR TALENTS ELSEWHERE.

LORIE JOHNSON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, THAT'S

INTERESTING.

I'M PLEASED TO REPORT IN

OUR AREA WE HAVE THE

VIRGINIA MEDICAL SCHOOL,

WHICH DOES A SUPERB JOB.

IT IS A LOCAL SITUATION,

THAT IS WORKING WITH A

HOSPITAL CHAIN, AND

THEY'RE TRAINING SOME

PRETTY GOOD DOCTORS.

I'M PLEASED WITH HAVE AN

ARTICULATION AGREEMENT

BETWEEN REGENT UNIVERSITY

AND THE EASTERN VIRGINIA

MEDICAL SCHOOL.

THE THING, WENDY, THAT IS

IMPORTANT, IS THE

SO-CALLED NURSE

PRACTITIONERS, WHO ARE

NURSES WHO HAVE GOTTEN

ALMOST UP TO THE M.D.

LEVEL.

THEY CAN DO ALL KINDS OF

TESTS AND THINGS LIKE

THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAD A

STROKE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

Wendy: RIGHT.

Pat: A STROKE.

Wendy: I KNOW.

YOU SCARED US TO DEATH.

Pat: I DID.

AND IT HIT ME.

ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL

I WAS UNCONSCIOUS, BUT WE

HAD KNEW AT CENERA DOWN

THE ROAD, THEY HAVE EXPERT

CARE.

THEY HIT ME WITH A DRUG

THAT WENT IMMEDIATELY TO

THE BRAIN AND DISSOLVED

THE CLOT.

FOR EVERY MINUTE THE

STROKE BEGINS, YOU LOSE

TWO MILLION BRAIN CELLS.

YOU GO FOR A COUPLE OF

HOURS, AND YOU KNOW,

YOU'RE PERMANENTLY

IMPAIRED, OR AT LEAST YOU

HAVE YEARS OF REHAB.

Wendy: HOW LONG ARE

YOU UNCONSCIOUS?

Pat: I WAS

UNCONSCIOUS ON THE WAY

DOWN THERE.

WHEN I GOT TO THE

HOSPITAL, I WAS

UNCONSCIOUS.

THEY HIT ME WITH THAT

STUFF.

AND THE DOCTOR SAID, RAISE

YOUR RIGHT HAND.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

AND HE SAID, RAISE YOUR

LEFT HAND.

AND I SAID, OKAY.

AND THEN RAISE BOTH HANDS.

> AN.AND I PRAISED THE LORD.

IF I HAD GONE TO ANOTHER

HOSPITAL THAT IS LOCAL --

WE HAVE A LAW, THAT WHEN

YOU GET AN AMBULANCE, THEY

HAVE TO TAKE YOU TO THE

NEAREST HOSPITAL.

AND IF THE NEAREST

HOSPITAL DOESN'T HAVE THE

TECHNICAL SKILL, IT'S TOO

BAD.

HAVE YOU A SERIOUS,

SERIOUS PROBLEM.

AND ALL THESE --

ESPECIALLY WITH STROKE AND

HEART ATTACKS AND THAT

KIND OF THING, IMMEDIATE

CARE IS SO IMPORTANT.

ANYHOW, THESE NURSE

PRACTITIONERS ARE THERE TO

FILL IN.

AND THEY CAN BE OPERATING

NURSES.

THEY CAN LEARN RADIOLOGY.

THEY CAN LEARN ALL KINDS

OF SKILLS.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE

M.D.s.

I THINK THIS INITIATIVE IS

JUST TREMENDOUS.

Wendy: THE LAST TWO

TIMES I'VE BEEN TO THE

DOCTOR, I SAW A NURSE

PRACTITIONER.

I NEVER EVEN SAW THE

DOCTOR.

Pat: YEAH.

Wendy: I'M, LIKE,

OKAY, IF YOU KNOW WHAT

YOU'RE DOING, THAT'S GOOD

ENOUGH FOR ME.

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU,

THEY GET BIG BUCKS.

THE PAYMENT TO NURSES IS

HUGE.

THAT'S WHY THERE IS SUCH A

HUGE DEMAND.

THERE ARE AT LEAST A

MILLION AND A HALF JOBS

AVAILABLE FOR NURSES.

SO WE'RE CRANKING THEM OUT

AT REGENT.

Wendy: AND WHAT I

LIKE ABOUT NURSE

PRACTITIONERS, YOU HAVE

MORE ACCESS TO THEM.

THEY'LL CALL YOU YOU

PERSONALLY AND YOU CAN

TALK TO THEM.

I'M ALL FOR THAT.

Pat: THEY'VE GOT

PHLEBOTOMY, AND THERE ARE

ALL OF THESE SPECIALISTS.

I'M ALL FOR HEALTH CARE.

WE NEED MORE OF IT.

BUT IT IS SUCH AN

EXPENSIVE THING BECAUSE OF

THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE

BROUGHT AGAINST MEDICAL

PEOPLE.

AND THE AMOUNT OF TESTS

THAT ARE TAKEN IN

DEFENSIVE MEDICINE IS JUST

SHOCKING.

WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING

ABOUT TORT LIABILITY IN

TERMS OF MEDICINE.

ALL RIGHT.

ENOUGH ON THAT.

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

YUP, THEY'RE WRAPPING US.

COMING UP, THE INTERVIEWER

BECOMES THE INTERVIEWEE.

SCOTT ROSS GETS QUESTIONED

ABOUT HIS LIFE, HIS

CONTROVERSIAL MARRIAGE,

AND HIS CANCER DIAGNOSIS.

THE BIG "C" IS NOT

CANCER, IT'S CHRIST.

THAT'S WHERE TRUST COMES

IN.

IT'S WHERE FAITH COMES IN,

AND YOU HAVE TO HOLD TO

THAT.

YOU MUST.

THAT'S WHY IT IS BACK TO

THE WORD.

Wendy: SCOTT AND HIS

WIFE, NEDRA, TAKE A TRIP

DOWN MEMORY LANE WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: YOU'RE WATCHING

"THE 700 CLUB."

AND I'M DELIGHTED YOU'RE

WITH US.

LET'S TAKE A LITTLE WALK

DOWN MEMORY LANE.

IN THE SUMMER OF '68, I

MET A MUSTACHED YOUNG MAN

WITH LONG HAIR AND A

PSYCHEDELIC T-SHIRT.

HIS NAME WAS SCOTT ROSS.

AND I LEARNED THAT HE HAD

BEEN ONE OF THE D.J.s

THAT INTRODUCED THE

BEATLES TO NEW YORK.

AND HE WAS INTO THAT

SCENE.

BUT I LIKED SCOTT.

BEFORE LONG I OFFERED HIM

A JOB.

AND THAT FORMER

DOPE-SMOKING DISC JOCKEY

BECAME A MEMBER OF OUR

TEAM.

AND 50 YEARS LATER, HE IS

STILL HERE.

AND RECENTLY HE AND HIS

WIFE, NEDRA, WHO USED TO

BE ONE OF THE FEATURED

SINGERS IN THE ROCKING RON

RONNETTES, SAT DOWN TA TO

TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

LESSONS THEY'VE LEARNED

DURING THAT TIME.

Reporter: NEDRA AND

SCOTT, CONGRATULATIONS ON

OVER 50 YEARS OF MARRIAGE.

THANK YOU.

Reporter: YOU DID IT.

WE DID IT.

Reporter: YOU DID

PRETTY WELL FOR YOURSELF,

SCOT.

SHE IS A LOVELY LADY.

YOU WERE CAPTIVATED RIGHT

FROM THE BEGINNING?

AND YOU MET ME AT 16,

BEFORE IT ALL.

AND SHE BECAME MY BABY.

SHE WAS A RONETTE, AND

WENT AROUND THE UNITED

STATES WITH THE BEATLES,

AND WENT TO ENGLAND.

AND THE BEATLES THREW A

BIG PARTY FOR HER.

ALL OF THIS STUFF AROUND

NEDRA, BUT, NUMBER ONE,

SHE WANTED TO BE A WIFE

AND A MOTHER.

AND A GRANDMOTHER, WHEN

I WAS YOUNG.

YEAH, AND A

GRANDMOTHER.

THIS IS WHERE HER HEART

WAS.

SO HER HEART IS FOR GOD,

THE LORD, AND HER HUSBAND

AND HER CHILDREN.

SHE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING

AS A MOTHER.

Reporter: YOU GET

MARRIED, AND 50 YEARS AGO

AN INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE,

THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A

REALLY TOUGH START.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

THAT LAST NIGHT.

BECAUSE OF BEING IN NEW

YORK, WE DID NOT HAVE WHAT

WAS GOING ON AROUND THE

COUNTRY BECAUSE IT WAS NEW

YORK.

AND SO NEW YORK WAS JUST

MAYBE -- MAYBE WITH

SEGREGATION AND STUFF LIKE

THAT, MAYBE BEHIND THE

SCENE.

IT WASN'T UP FRONT.

LATER ON, WHEN WE CAME TO

VIRGINIA HERE, THEN WE SAW

THE RACIAL SIDE OF THINGS

IN VIRGINIA.

JUST PEOPLE WANTING TO

KNOW, WHAT WAS I.

AND I WOULD GO, WHAT DO

YOU MEAN, WHAT AM I?

WE WERE DOING SOME TV,

AND TO PAT ROBERTSON'S

CREDIT, I WAS REALLY

ACCOSTED BY SOME PEOPLE,

SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS, WHO

WANTED TO KNOW THE SAME

THING, WHERE IS SHE FROM,

INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE, ETC.

AND THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO

DID NOT WANT TO SUPPORT

THE FLEDGLING CBN AT THAT

TIME BECAUSE OF OUR

MARRIAGE.

BUT PAT STOOD WITH US AND

SAID, YOU KNOW, MONEY IS

NOT THE ISSUE.

AND THESE TWO ARE MARRIED

BEFORE GOD, AND THAT'S

THAT.

AND SO WE HAD THAT KIND OF

SUPPORT.

Reporter: DID THESE

EXPERIENCES BRING YOU TWO

CLOSER TOGETHER OR DID IT

CREATE TENSION?

IF ANYTHING, IT WAS US

AGAINST THE WORLD.

WE ARE WHO WE ARE, AND

WE'RE STICKING TOGETHER.

AND, ACTUALLY, WHEN WE

STARTED TO PRAY TOGETHER

WAS ON OUR HONEYMOON,

WHICH WE REALLY DIDN'T

KNOW TO DO THAT SO MUCH.

WE HAD COME TO THE LORD

AND HAD A REAL EXPERIENCE

WITH JESUS.

Reporter: TOGETHER?

TOGETHER.

Reporter: WHAT WAS

THAT EXPERIENCE?

I WAS FROM SCOTLAND,

AND MY DAD WAS IN

MINISTRY, AND I HAD GIVEN

MY LIFE TO THE LORD WHEN I

WAS FIVE, AND CAME TO

AMERICA WHEN I WAS 10.

BUT THE CHALLENGES OF A

NEW CULTURE, AND A NUMBER

OF OTHER THINGS, I WALKED

AWAY FROM THE LORD FOR A

LONG TIME.

SO IN NEW YORK, I WASN'T

REALLY WALKING WITH THE

LORD.

SO I CAME BACK TO THE LORD

IN A SMALL CHURCH OUTSIDE

HAGERSTOWN, MARYLAND,

WHERE MY MOM LIVED AND I

LIVED.

I CAME DOWN TO VISIT HER

WITH NEDRA, AND MOM WANTED

ME TO GO TO CHURCH.

I WENT TO CHURCH, BUT I

STOOD IN THE PARKING LOT

AND GOT HIGH FIRST ON

GRASS, WEED, MARIJUANA --

IT IS LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA.

ANY WAY, I GOT HIGH AND

WENT TO THE CHURCH.

AND I ALWAYS SAY THIS, I

SAT I WAY AND THE BACK WHERE

THE LORD COULDN'T SEE US.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS

CHURCH SERVICE, SOMEONE

HAD A WORD.

THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE

THERE THAT THE LORD WAS

CALLING AND SAID, YOU

KNOW, COME BACK TO ME.

PUT THEM ON ME.

Reporter: SO A

FOUNDATION OF YOUR

MARRIAGE HAS BEEN PRAYING

TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY.

Reporter: EVERY DAY?

RIGHT, EVERY DAY.

AFTER WE GOT MARRIED,

PASTOR VICK GAVE US THE

GIFT OF A SMALL, LITTLE

BIBLE.

THIS IS IT.

IT'S CALLED "DAILY LIGHT."

AND IT'S KIND OF BEAT UP.

THAT'S 50 YEARS WORTH OF

READING.

IF ANY OF YOU BINDING

PEOPLE OUT THERE WOULD

LIKE TO HELP...

SO EVERY DAY, FROM DAY

ONE, LITERALLY ON OUR

HONEYMOON, WE STARTED

READING THIS.

SO WHEN WE'RE TOGETHER

OR WE'RE SEPARATE FROM

EACH OTHER, I HAVE ONE AND

HE'LL HAVE ANOTHER

VERSION, AND WE READ THE

WORD AND WE'LL ASK EACH

OTHER, WHAT DID YOU GET

OUT OF THAT?

NOT JUST READ IT TO READ

IT, BUT TO SAY, WHAT HERE

IS SPEAKING TO YOU?

Reporter: SO YOUR

MARRIAGE WOULD NOT BE WHAT

IT IS WITHOUT GOD AS THE

FOUNDATION?

NO WAY.

NO WAY.

I SEE MYSELF AS TOTALLY AS

A DAUGHTER OF THE KING.

SO I LET MY MOUTH BE THAT,

THE WAY I CARRY MYSELF BE

THAT.

I'M A DAUGHTER OF THE

KING.

SOMETIMES IT IS HARD TO

LIVE WITH A PRINCESS.

Reporter: WELL, YOUR

FATHER-IN-LAW IS A KING,

TAKE THAT ONE ON.

I TOLD GOD ON HIM.

I SAID, GOD, HE IS NOT

LISTENING.

YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO HIM.

AND, GUESS WHAT?

GOD SPOKE TO HIM.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT

WOULD COME THAT WOULD WANT

TO TEAR US APART BECAUSE

OF HIG MY OPINION, HIS

OPINION, THE WAY WE WERE

GOING, HOW WE WERE GOING

TO GO, BUT WE WATCHED

EVERY TIME HOW GOD CAUSED

US TO BOW OUR KNEES TO

EACH OTHER AND TO HIM.

TO HIM FIRST.

THERE IS A BIBLE VERSE,

DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN

ON YOUR ANGER.

WE REALLY ADHERED TO THAT.

BECAUSE THE ISSUES WILL

COME UP.

FAMILY ISSUES WILL COME

UP.

MONEY -- THE PRESSURE OF

MONEY.

THE CHILDREN -- ALL OF

THAT STUFF.

LET'S NOT GO TO SLEEP WITH

THAT KIND OF ANGER.

THERE WERE TWO INSTANCES,

I THINK, I REMEMBER WHERE

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

SEPARATING.

IT WAS THAT TENUOUS A

SITUATION, VERY VOLATILE.

AND MADE A DECISION TO

SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO

EMBARRASS GOD.

WE DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS

JESUS.

WE CAN'T DO THIS.

SO THEN WE WOULD SUBMIT TO

THE LORD, PRAYERFULLY, AND

THEN TO EACH OTHER.

FORGIVE ME.

YOU FORGIVE ME; I FORGIVE

YOU.

AND BACK TO THE WORD

AGAIN, PRAYING AND SO

FORTH, AND WORKING IT

THROUGH.

Reporter: GETTING

YOUR OWN PRIDE OUT OF THE

WAY.

OH, YEAH.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE

SPIRITUAL DIE TO SELF.

JESUS SAID, YOU WANT TO

FOLLOW ME, THE FIRST THING

YOU GET TO DO IS DIE.

SIMPLE.

DENY YOURSELF, PICK UP

YOUR CROSS DAILY, AND

FOLLOW.

THAT'S THE PREREC SIST. PRERECWASIST.

I HAD STAGE FOUR CANCER.

SHE WAS A GREAT NURSE.

I DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF

IT BECAUSE I WAS OUT OF

IT.

I WASN'T EVEN SURE I WAS

GOING TO MAKE IT.

BUT SHE WAS THERE AND

SLEPT IN THE HOSPITAL NEXT

TO ME ALL THE TIME, AND I

WAS TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON

HER.

AND SHE WAS THERE.

AND I TOLD JESUS, GUESS

WHAT?

THIS FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE

IS SO TIRED.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN THAT

TIRED IN MY LIFE, THAT I

HONESTLY SAID TO GOD, I

HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT, IS

10 MINUTES.

AND I WALKED TO HIS SIDE

OF THE BED, FEEDING HIM

WITH TUBES IN HIS STOMACH,

TO COMING AROUND THE BED,

AND THE LORD HEALED ME,

AND GAVE ME STRENGTH LIKE

I HAD BEEN ON VACATION.

AND I'M GOING, HOW DID

THIS HAPPEN?

WHEN I JUST SAID, AND I

HAD NEVER SAID BEFORE, I

HAVE 10 MINUTES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

Reporter: PEOPLE HERE

HEAR THE WORD CANCER, AND

THEY'RE TERRIFIED.

AND GOD HAS SPOKEN

SOMETHING TO YOU ABOUT

THAT WORD.

THE BIG "C" IS NOT

CANCER, IT IS CHRIST.

THE BIG "C" IS NOT CANCER,

IT IS THE CROSS.

THE BIG "C" IS CAVALRY.

SO IT IS NOT CANCER.

WHEN THE LORD IS TALKING

TO JEREMIAH, HE SAYS, I

TOOK YOU INTO A DESERT.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF

THE TIMES WHERE GOD IS

QUIET, AND THAT'S WHERE

TRUST COMES IN, WHERE

FAITH COMES IN.

AND YOU HAVE TO HOLD TO

THAT.

THAT'S WHY IT IS BACK TO

THE WORD.

ONE HOLDS UP THE OTHER

WHEN THE OTHER IS DOWN.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

SO WE'VE BEEN FAITHFUL TO

EACH OTHER BECAUSE OF

HAVING GOD, BIGGER THAN

US.

BIGGER THAN US.

Pat: WHAT A WONDERFUL

COUPLE.

WHEN THEY FIRST CAME DOWN

HERE, I HAD NO IDEA.

I WASN'T INTO THE ROCK AND

ROLL SCENE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE

ROCKING RONETTES WERE.

AND I DIDN'T REALIZE SHE

WAS A VERY FAMOUS SINGER,

ACCLAIMED ALL OVER THE

WORLD.

THEY JUST INDUCTED HER

INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL

HALL OF FAME.

Wendy: YEAH.

AMAZING.

Pat: BUT HERE THEY

WERE, THEY WERE AN

INTERRACIAL COUPLE IN A

VERY SEGREGATED SOCIETY.

AND I KNEW WE WERE PUTTING

EVERYTHING ON THE LINE,

BUT I SAID, MAN, I BELIEVE

IN PEOPLE.

THEY BELONG TO THE LORD,

AND WE WILL HONOR THEM AS

SUCH.

THEY'VE BEEN WITH US FOR

50 YEARS.

SCOTT IS A DEAR FRIEND.

Wendy: AND ONE OF THE

BEST INTERVIEWERS I HAVE

EVER SEEN.

Pat: BUT HE ALMOST

DIED.

THAT CANCER WAS

UNBELIEVABLE.

THE OPERATION WAS

UNBELIEVABLE.

THANK GOD THE LORD REACHED

HIM AND HEALED HIM.

AND HE AND NEDRA ARE GOING

STRONG.

GOD BLESS THEM.

JUST A LITTLE INSIDE STORY

ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE BEHIND

THE SCENES AND WHO THEY

ARE AND WHAT THEY DID.

WENDY?

Wendy: STILL AHEAD,

SHE WAS SEVEN WEEKS

PREGNANT AND THEN TRAGEDY

STRUCK.

THEY CONFIRMED THAT

THERE WASN'T ANY

HEARTBEAT.

Wendy: WATCH HER

TEARS OF SADNESS TURN TO

TEARS OF JOY WHEN THIS

YOUNG WIFE FINALLY BECOMES

A MIRACLE MOM.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

A CONTENTIOUS IMMIGRATION

ISSUE COULD ULTIMATELY BE

HEADED TO THE SUPREME

COURT.

SEVEN STATES, INCLUDING

TEXAS, ARE SUING TO END

THE DACA PROGRAM, THAT IS

A PROGRAM FROM PRESIDENT

OBAMA THAT PROTECTS

IMMIGRANTS THAT WERE

BROUGHT TO THE U.S.

ILLEGALLY AS CHILDREN,

FROM BEING DEPORTED.

THE LAWSUIT COMES A WEEK

AFTER A FEDERAL JUDGE

ORDERED THE TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION TO START

THE DACA PROGRAM BACK UP.

AND THE ISSUES AREN'T

LIKELY TO BE RESOLVED

UNTIL THE SUPREME COURT

WEIGHS IN.

> IOWA LAWMAKERS HAVE

APPROVED A BILL BANNING

MOST ABORTIONS.

THE HEARTBEAT BILL WOULD

BAN ABORTIONS ONCE A FETAL

HEARTBEAT IS DETECTED,

WHICH CAN BE AS EARLY AS

SIX WEEKS.

CRITICS SAY THAT WOULD BAN

THE MEDICAL PROCEDURE

BEFORE SOME WOMEN EVEN

KNOW THEY'RE PREGNANT.

THE LEGISLATION HEADS TO

THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S

DESK NEXT.

IF SHE SIGNS IT INTO LAW,

THE MEASURE IS EXPECTED TO

BE CHALLENGED IN COURT

OVER WHETHER IT VIOLATES

U.S. SUPREME COURT

RULINGS.

REMEMBER, YOU CAN

ALWAYS GET THE LATEST FROM

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WEBSITE AT cbnnews.com.

PAT AND WENDY ARE BACK

WITH MUCH MORE OF TODAY'S

"THE 700 CLUB."

IT'S COMING UP RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Wendy: MELISSA LOVES

TO WATCH "THE 700 CLUB,"

AND HER FAVORITE PART IS

OUR PRAYER TIME.

BUT MELISSA NEVER DREAMED

THAT OUR SHOW WOULD PLAY A

ROLE IN MAKING HER A

MIRACLE MOM.

Reporter: IT HAD ONLY

BEEN A MONTH SINCE THE

HONEYMOON WHEN MELISSA AND

MIKE LEARNED SHE WAS

PREGNANT.

WE ALWAYS BOTH WANTED A

BIG FAMILY.

WE WERE HOPING TO GET

PREGNANT RIGHT AWAY.

WE WERE JUST SO EXCITED.

Reporter: BUT AT

SEVEN WEEKS, MELISSA

STARTED BLEEDING HEAVILY.

SO I WENT TO -- I WENT

TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

AND THEY CONFIRMED THAT

THERE WASN'T ANY

HEARTBEAT.

RIGHT AWAY, WHEN A MOTHER

CONCEIVES, YOU JUST GET

THIS ATTACHMENT TO THAT

BABY.

AND THAT BABY IS INSTANTLY

YOURS.

Reporter: THEY GOT

PREGNANT A SECOND TIME,

BUT A ROUTINE ULTRASOUND

AT 14 WEEKS SHOWED SHE HAD

MISCARRIED AGAIN.

IT WAS REALLY TOUGH.

THE SECOND ONE WAS

ESPECIALLY HARD BECAUSE I

HAD MADE IT SO FAR AND I

WAS SHOWING.

AND WE WERE GOING TO FIND

OUT THE GENDER, AND I

THOUGHT WE WERE ALL IN THE

CLEAR.

WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT,

GROWN A LOT, ESPECIALLY

WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF

THAT SOON IN OUR MARRIAGE.

IT BRINGS YOU TOGETHER.

Reporter: REFUSING TO

GIVE UP ON THEIR DREAM,

THE COUPLE KEPT TRYING TO

GET PREGNANT BUT WERE

UNABLE TO.

I GUESS ONCE YOU YOU GO GO

THROUGH THESE THINGS, YOU

WONDER IF IT IS EVER GOING

TO HAPPEN.

I WOULD JUST ASK HIM WHY,

AND ASK HIM TO HELP ME GO

THROUGH IT.

BUT I STILL DIDN'T DOUBT

HIS PLAN FOR US.

Reporter: EVEN AFTER

TWO MORE YEARS, THEY

BELIEVED GOD WOULD GIVE

THEM A CHILD.

IT JUST COMES DOWN TO

CHOOSING TO BELIEVE.

AND I THINK JUST KEEPING

PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

GOD IS IN CONTROL.

I'M NOT IN CONTROL.

I KNEW GOD WAS GOING TO

PROVIDE.

EITHER THROUGH ADOPTION --

WE BOTH HAD HEARTS FOR

KIDS -- IF WE WERE GOING

TO ADOPT, OR GO THROUGH

SOME KIND OF MEDICAL

INTERVENTION, BUT WE WERE

OPEN TO WHATEVER THE LORD

HAD TO DO.

IT WAS HARD.

Reporter: AFTER MUCH

PRAYER AND CONSIDERATION,

THEY DECIDED TO MAKE AN

APPOINTMENT WITH A

FERTILITY DOCTOR.

WE HAD DISCUSSED UP TO

THAT POINT THAT WE WERE

BOTH READY TO DO WHATEVER

IT TOOK TO HAVE A BABY.

Reporter: TO LIFT HER

SPIRITS, MELISSA WATCHED

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

IT WAS SUCH AN

ENCOURAGEMENT TO ME.

TO HEAR THESE AMAZING

CHRISTIAN STORIES AND

THESE WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE I

HAD NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE.

Reporter: DAYS BEFORE

HER DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT,

MELISSA WAS WATCHING THE

SHOW WHEN GORDON AND WENDY

STARTED PRAYING.

Wendy: THERE ARE

COUPLES AND YOU'VE BEEN

CRYING OUT FOR A BABY, AND

YOU'RE HAVING INFERTILITY

PROBLEMS.

THE LADIES, PUT YOUR HAND

RIGHT NOW ON YOUR BELLIES.

GOD IS HEALING THOSE

ISSUES RIGHT NOW IN JESUS'

NAME.

I THINK I WAS KIND OF

WATCHING IN DISBELIEF, OH,

MY GOODNESS, SHE IS SAYING

IT.

SHE IS SAYING MY PROBLEM.

SO I JUST KIND OF LOOKED

AROUND, EVEN THOUGH I WAS

BY MYSELF.

AND I SAID, I THINK THAT'S

FOR ME.

Reporter: THE NEXT

DAY MELISSA CANCELLED HER

APPOINTMENT.

SHE WAS PREGNANT WITHIN

THE MONTH.

IT WAS JUST INCREDIBLE.

YOU JUST CAN'T EXPLAIN IT.

IT IS JUST SO EXCITING TO

KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE

A BABY.

Reporter: ON

OCTOBER 14th, 2014, THEY

RECOMMEND THEIR SON

GABRIEL INTO THEIR FAMILY.

WHEN HE CAME OUT, HE

CAME OUT SCREAMING.

THAT MIRACLE BABY CAME OUT

WITH A FIGHT.

AND HE CAME OUT WITH GOD'S

FIGHT.

AND IT WAS JUST SO

EXCITING BECAUSE HE WAS

ALL WE HAD EVER WAITED

FOR.

ESPECIALLY YOUR FIRST ONE.

YOU JUST HAVE NO IDEA YOU

CAN LOVE A BABY SO MUCH.

WE WERE JUST SO EXCITED

AND ELATED.

Reporter: TODAY MIKE

AND MELISSA HAVE TWO

HEALTHY BOYS AND A DAILY

REMINDER OF A LOVING GOD.

I JUST SEE HOW MUCH GOD

LOVES ME AND GOD LOVES

PEOPLE AND HOW HE HEALS.

AND HE HEARS US WHEN WE

PRAY.

AND I JUST LOOK AT THOSE

BOYS, AND I THINK, MAN,

GOD IS BEAUTIFUL.

Wendy: MELISSA, YOU

KNOW, GOD LOVES PEOPLE.

HE HEALS TODAY.

HE STILL DOES MIRACLES,

AND HE WANTS TO GIVE YOU

THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART.

AND PAT AND I WANT TO PRAY

FOR YOU.

WE'VE GOT SOME PRAISE

REPORTS.

THIS IS FROM KALEIGH:

"FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS,

I HAD A RATTLING SENSATION

IN MY LUNGS.

ON THE NIGHT OF

APRIL 14th, ON YOUR

SHOW, PAT SAID, SOMEONE

HAS CHEST CONGESTION, AND

HE SAID TO COUGH AND IT

WOULD LEAVE.

I DID, AND IMMEDIATELY

AFTER I TOOK A DEEP

BREATH, THE RATTLING WAS

GONE AND IT IS STILL GONE.

I PRAISE GOD FOR MY

HEALING AND I THANK YOU

FOR BEING OBEDIENT TO THE

LORD."

Pat: THIS IS FROM

DEE, WHO SAYS, "I'VE HAD A

LUMP IN MY THROAT FOR MORE

THAN TWO YEARS.

ON APRIL 27th, WENDY

GAVE A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE

ABOUT A LUMP IN THE

THROAT.

SHE SAID, I RECEIVED IT

AND THE LUMP DISAPPEARED

AND I AM HEALED."

Wendy: WONDERFUL.

Pat: LET'S PRAY

TOGETHER.

WENDY AND I ARE GOING TO

JOIN HANDS.

WE WANT TO PRAY FOR YOU.

THIS CAN BE A DAY OF

MIRACLES.

THIS CAN BE YOUR MIRACLE.

WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE

POSSIBLE.

ALL THINGS.

THANK YOU, LORD.

I JOIN HANDS WITH MY DEAR

SISTER IN CHRIST.

AND WE BELIEVE YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AND WE PRAY FOR PEOPLE IN

THIS AUDIENCE.

YOU KNOW THE NEEDS, YOU'VE

HEARD THE CRIES, YOU'VE

HEARD THE PRAYERS.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

SOMEBODY HAS A PARALYSIS

IN YOUR RIGHT HIP.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW EXACTLY

WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, BUT

YOU LACK FEELING IN THAT

HIP, AND IT HASN'T BEEN

FUNCTIONING.

RIGHT NOW IT WILL BE LIKE

A BOLT OF ELECTRICITY WILL

GO THROUGH YOU.

IN JESUS' NAME, HE HAS

HEALED YOU.

Wendy: THERE IS A

LADY, AND YOU HAVE YOUR

HAND ON YOUR BELLY, AND

YOU SAW THE STORY ABOUT

MELISSA, AND YOU SAID, LET

THAT HAPPEN TO ME.

GOD IS HEARING YOUR PRAYER

RIGHT NOW.

JUST START REJOICING.

Pat: THERE IS

SOMEBODY, IT'S LIKE

SOMEBODY IS GRABBING YOUR

THROAT, AND YOU'RE HAVING

A HARD TIME SWALLOWING AND

BREATHING.

THAT OBSTRUCTION JUST WENT

AWAY, AND YOU'RE HEALED.

PUT YOUR HAND ON YOUR

THROAT IN THE NAME OF

JESUS.

Wendy: SOMEONE,

YOU'VE BEEN SUFFERING FROM

JUST A SADNESS, A

DEPRESSION.

YOU'RE NOT NORMALLY LIKE

THAT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T

WANT TO LEAVE.

BUT IT IS LEAVING NOW.

START JUST LIFTING YOUR

HANDS AND REJOICING.

THE JOY OF THE LORD IS

YOUR STRENGTH.

Pat: THE POWER OF THE

LORD IS COMING TO PEOPLE

RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE BEING SET FREE FROM

FEAR.

THE SPIRIT OF FEAR IS

LEAVING YOU RIGHT NOW.

YOU ARE BEING DELIVERED

AND THE ANOINTING OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT IS UPON YOU

NOW.

PRAISE GOD ALL OVER THIS

AUDIENCE.

JUST THANK HIM FOR THE

MIRACLE THAT YOU'RE

RECEIVING.

AND MAY THE ANOINTING OF

THE LORD BE YOURS IN

JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

Wendy: AMEN.

Pat: THANK YOU.

AND LET US HEAR FROM YOU.

WHATEVER GOD HAS DONE IN

YOUR LIFE, WE WANT TO HEAR

ABOUT IT.

WE LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU

YOU.

AND IF YOU HAVE A PRAYER

REQUEST, BY ALL MEANS CALL

IN.

Wendy: ARE WE GOING

RIGHT TO E-MAIL OAR GOING OR GOING

TO THE BREAK?

THE BREAK.

DEBRA SAYS, "WHAT CAN I DO

IF MY HUSBAND SABOTAGES

EVERYTHING IN OUR LIFE AND

MARRIAGE?

I'M AT MY WIT'S END."

PAT WEIGHS IN ON THAT AND

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

IT IS TIME FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS AND SOME HONEST

ANSWERS.

LET'S START WITH DEBRA.

SHE SAYS, "WHAT SHOULD A

PERSON DO IF THEIR SPOUSE

SEEMS TO SABOTAGE

EVERYTHING IN THEIR LIFE

AND MARITAL RELATIONSHIP.

I'M AT MY WIT'S END."

Pat: THERE IS

SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT

INDIVIDUAL.

I WAS TRYING TO THINK, AS

WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH A

HUSBAND THAT DOES THAT?

THAT PERSON HATES HIMSELF.

THAT'S THE DEAL.

HE HATES HIMSELF.

AND THEREFORE HE IS NOT

HAPPY UNLESS EVERYBODY

AROUND HIM IS UNHAPPY.

HE WANTS TO BRING MISERY

INTO EVERYONE'S LIFE

BECAUSE HE, HIMSELF, IS

THAT WAY.

YOU CAN ASK FOR

COUNSELLING.

MAYBE YOUR HUSBAND WOULD

GO TO COUNSELLING.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOMEBODY

WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING

WITH A THING LIKE THAT.

BUT THERE IS A DEEP-SEATED

PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEM.

HE MAY HAVE BEEN ABUSED AS

A CHILD.

HE MAY HAVE -- YOU NEVER

CAN TELL.

WHEN THEY'RE EIGHT OR NINE

OR 10 YEARS OLD, THAT

HUSBAND MAY HAVE HAD SOME

KIND OF ABUSE, VERBAL,

PHYSICAL, SEXUAL,

WHATEVER.

AND HE'S GOT A TERRIBLE

IMAGE OF HIMSELF BECAUSE

HE SUFFERED SO MUCH.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT

OF DEEP-SEATED HELP.

IF YOU CAN'T GET IT WORKED

OUT, YOU CAN'T CONTINUE A

MARRIAGE THAT WAY.

SO IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU

MIGHT LOOK FOR A

SEPARATION.

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

DARREN SAYS, "I HAD A

DREAM THAT I WAS TO MOVE

TO ANOTHER CITY.

HOW DO I KNOW IF THIS CAME

FROM GOD OR IT'S MY OWN

THOUGHTS?"

Pat: WELL, HOW DO YOU

YOU KNOW THE WILL OF GOD

FOR YOUR LIFE?

GET A CONFIRMATION.

YOU CAN GET A CONFIRMATION

FROM THE WORD OF GOD.

YOU CAN GET A CONFIRMATION

FROM CIRCUMSTANCES.

YOU CAN GET A CONFIRMATION

FROM FRIENDS.

AND YOU CAN GET, MORE THAN

ANYTHING, LET THE PEACE OF

GOD BE AN EMPIRE IN YOUR

HEART.

LET THAT PEACE DECIDE.

IF THE PEACE LIFTS, DON'T

DO IT.

THAT'S SOME OF THE WAYS

YOU FIND OUT.

Wendy: THIS VIEWER

SAYS, "OUR SUNDAY SCHOOL

TEACHER SAID SATAN IS IN

HEAVEN.

I KNOW THIS ISN'T TRUE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN?"

Pat: WELL, IF YOU

READ ABOUT JOB, YOU SEE

THE SONS OF GOD ARE COMING

BEFORE THE LORD.

AND HE SAYS, WHERE HAVE

YOU BEEN?

WELL, I'VE BEEN WALKING TO

AND FRO UPON THE EARTH.

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED JOB?

AND ON AND ON.

MAYBE THAT SUNDAY SCHOOL

TEACHER THINKS THAT.

BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT

REVELATION, YOU SEE THAT

SATAN HAS BEEN THROWN OUT

OF HEAVEN.

AND HE COMES TO EARTH

HAVING GREAT ANGER BECAUSE

HE KNOWS HIS TIME IS

SHORT.

SO I THINK JOB SAYS THAT

HE HAS GOT ACCESS TO THE

THRONE OF GOD.

THE BOOK OF REVELATION

SAYS HE HAS BEEN THROWN

OUT OF HEAVEN.

YOU TAKE YOUR PICK.

I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MAKE

A BIG DEAL OF IT.

I THINK TO TEACH THAT

SATAN IS IN HEAVEN IS, I

THINK, CONFUSING AND IT'S

NOT ACCURATE.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

PSALMS: "BE OF GOOD

COURAGE, AND HE SHALL

STRENGTHEN YOUR HEART, ALL

OF YOU WHO HOPE IN THE

LORD."

FOR WEDNESDAY AND AL WENDY AND ALL OFIS OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

GOD BLESS YOU AND WE'LL

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

BYE-BYE.

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