This Week: Fulani herdsmen slaughter Christians in Nigeria; Burmaâ€™s Kachin Christians at risk of ethnic cleansing by military; Trump meets Putin, but China may be greater threat than Russia. Will Judge Kavanaugh receive Clarence Thomas treatment?
- Today from the Global Lane:Where in the World, Nigeria.
More Christians are being killed there
than anywhere else in the world.
So who are the sinister forces
behind the massacres, and why?
Last year, hundreds of thousands
of Rohingya Muslimswere chased from Burma.
Now, more ethnic cleansing.
This time, the victims are Christians.
Fair trade agreements with China
and North Korean nuclear disarmament:
sound US policy, or just wishful thinking?
And Judge Brett Kavanaugh: buckle up
for another bruising Supreme Court fight.
And it's all right here, rightnow, from the Global Lane.
Where in the World, Nigeria,where a new wave of violence
from herdsmen has killedhundreds of Christians
in the northern part of the country.
Church leaders are callingit ethnic cleansing.
Joining us with the latest from Abuja
is CBN Nigeria Director Felix Oisamoje.
And joining us from our Washington, DC,
studio with the latest is Emmanuel Ogebe.
Emmanuel's an internationalhuman rights attorney.
He's had relatives killedin the recent violence.
First, Emmanuel, tell us what
happened to your family members.
- Yes, Gary, just about 10 days or so ago,
there was a horrific massacre
in Plateau State in north-central Nigeria.
And I just saw the newsfrom contacts there.
It wasn't until a couple of days later
that I learned that six of myrelatives died in that attack.
From what we've beenable to piece together,
the husband and his pregnant wife
tried to take her out of the house
to safety and come back for the kids,
but they ran into theherdsmen on their way.
They shot him and his pregnant wife.
And they went into theirhome and they killed
their four-year-old son andtheir six-year-old daughter,
who were asleep in their beds.
They also had tworelatives who were visiting
for the summer break, andthose were killed, as well.
So this was really a horrific slaughter.
Over 238 people were killed.
And Gary, what breaks my heart is,
the brother to the gentleman who died
says that the family spotted the corpses
and they said, "We want to takeour corpses and bury them."
And the authorities refused and insisted
on giving them a mass burialbecause they don't want
the truth to emerge as tohow many people really died
in that horrific massacrein Plateau State.
- Felix, has the violence against
Christians subsided, or is it continuing?
- Gary, I was saying we have noticed
some escalation in the last few months.
So you are right to say it'sincreasing at this point.
- Where is it specificallyhappening, Felix, and why?
- It's happening more in the Middle Belt
area of the country, and the reason simply
is because the Fulani herdsmen
take their cattle into people's farmlands.
They eat all their crops on the farm,
and when the people challenge them,
then before you know,they respond with AK-47s.
- Where do they get the AK-47s?
So I understand, thisis different than the
Boko Haram violence, those terrorists.
Where do they get the AK-47s?
And why are they responding that way?
- That has been the question.
Because given how muchan AK-47 will go for,
a Fulani herdsman willprobably need to sell
all his cattle to be able to buy an AK-47.
- Gary, what we have is a genocide.
They are trying todisplace the Christians.
They're trying to possess their lands.
And they're trying toimpose their religion
on the so-called infidels and pagans,
who they consider Christians to be.
- Who is funding them?
Who's providing them withthe weapons, and why?
- Yeah, now that's a very good question.
We've always wondered how they could
afford such sophisticated arms.
In the few occasions wherethey run into the military,
they overpower the militarywith the level of weaponry.
And there are several theories.
One of them, of course, isthat the arms proliferation
that resulted from the collapse of Libya
saw an influx of arms into the country
that fell into the hands of both
Boko Haram and the Fulani herdsmen.
But even more sinister is the fact that
a lot of these cattleare owned by very rich
Fulanis who are in governmentand who are in power.
So, there is a strong belief that
the Fulanis, the rulingelite, are actually
funding these herdsmento conduct these attacks.
Because that way theycan dominate politically
and they can dominate physicallyin terms of land grab.
The attacks are comingfrom the Fulani herdsmen,
who actually brought Jihad, they brought
violent Jihad to Nigeria in 1804.
And many believe that this is simply
a continuation of that Jihad.
I can tell you that inPlateau State in particular,
over 50 communities ofChristians have been colead.
They've been dechristianized.
The Christians have been pushed out,
and these communities have been overrun
and taken over by the Fulaniherdsmen and their cattle.
So this group is actuallyworse than Boko Haram.
Boko Haram has rules of engagement.
They have some kind of ideology.
These people slash, kill, and burn.
I think they exemplify what the
Scripture says in John 10:10:
the thief comes but tosteal, to kill, and destroy.
And they're destroying.
Christians are being hunted ontheir farms, in their homes.
They're being slaughtered.
This is a genocide.
In Benue State alone, thisyear over 500 Christians
have been killed in that one state.
Including, Gary, you musthave heard about this,
this shocking attack in April
where they attacked a church mass
and they killed 19 people,including the priests,
who were serving a communionin the church that morning.
So 19 worshipers were killed in church.
One more recent incident:last weekend, the archbishop
of the Anglican Church of Jos,
his home was attacked andone person was killed.
So, Gary, what we have is a genocide.
They are trying todisplace the Christians.
They're trying to possess their lands.
And they're trying toimpose their religion
on the so-called infidels and pagans,
who they consider Christians to be.
- [Gary] CBN I know has workedin Nigeria for years, Felix,
and I know in the past we've reached out
to help people displacedby the Boko Haram violence.
So what are we doing now to help?
- One of the things,our team just came back
from a place called Kagoroin the north-central
area of Nigeria where has experienced
a lot of violence, as well,related to the Fulani herdsmen.
We just came back fromdoing a whole one week
of free medical services to that area.
Because a lot of people are suffering
with no medical attention.
So we've been able to go there
and provide free medical services.
And right now, we are talking with
another group on the outskirts of Jos.
That just happened this past week.
We are talking to a group there
to see if we can go in there,
probably do a medical mission as well,
and then do some kindof empowerment projects.
And so we are talking,but we can't move in now,
because it's still toovolatile to go in there.
So we are waiting untilthings settle down.
Then we'll go in there and see
what we can do to help the people.
- So what can our viewers do, Emmanuel?
- Well, there are severalthings that could be done.
Obviously, the first is prayer.
But we're at the point where thoughts
and prayers are not sufficient anymore.
Over 2,000 people have died from
the violence in Nigeria this year already.
We're talking aboutdeaths in the thousands.
Nigeria is now the deadliest place
in the world to be a Christian.
And so, we need international pressure.
The UK House of Lords justlast week had a debate,
and they said this is no longera herdsmen-farmer conflict.
This is genocide.
Most of the lords were consistent
in their depiction of what is happening.
Now, in addition to that, we need aid.
I know that CBN 700 Club is in Nigeria.
So, if people supportCBN, we know that CBN
will deliver to thepeople who are afflicted.
But we need the members ofCongress, the US Congress.
Write to your congressmen.
They need to appoint a special
envoy on the issue of Nigeria.
And also, the UnitedStates needs to not sell
aircraft to General Buhari's regime.
The Nigerian Air Force has been used
in attacks against Christian communities
that tried to defend themselves
against the herdsmen in Adamawa State.
The US shouldn't sellaircraft to General Buhari,
who will use them against Christians.
And so, I think there're lotsof things that can be done.
But these are some of the keythings that should happen.
- I think one of the thingswe need the most is prayers,
because I personallybelieve that nothing happens
that doesn't have a spiritual background.
So whatever is going on right now
has some kind of spiritual underpinnings.
And I believe that ifwe begin to deal with it
from that point, it makes it easier.
After all, the Bible tells us that
we do not war against flesh and blood.
And so, we know that thereare spiritual issues.
So we need to pray.
That's the first thing we need.
We need prayers that Godwill continue to protect
our Christians, wherever theyare, all over the country.
And the other thing, too, is to sensitize
the international communityto what is going on here.
Because I believe that once that happens
and people know thatit's not only Nigerians
that are crying out, that then probably
it will make them begin to see that
people are taking noticeoutside of the country.
And probably that willdissuade them from their plans.
- Yeah, and Gary, if Ican say one last thing.
There is a Christian girl whowas abducted by Boko Haram.
And they asked her to convert to Islam,
and then she would be set free.
And she refused.
She's a 15-year-old girl.
Her name is Leah.
And Leah stood forChrist and has been held
by the terrorists for 135 days now.
So I want everyone whohears this to pray for Leah.
She's a genuine heroineof the faith in this era.
- And there are many ofthem there in Nigeria.
We appreciate them, and we'llbe praying for her, as well.
- "Have you no shame, sir?"
That's how the UnitedNations' human rights chief
responded when a Myanmar diplomat
recently told the UN his government
was committed to thedefense of human rights.
And those who follow the plight
of the Rohingya and theKachin know differently.
Here with us to give usmore is Pastor Bob Roberts
of Northwood Church in Keller, Texas.
He's part of the Faith Coalitionto Stop Genocide in Burma.
Pastor Roberts, we've reported regularly
about the Rohingya, the refugees there,
persecuted Muslims chased out of Burma
and now living in Bangladesh.
And I know you visited them.
So how are they doingand what did you witness?
- Well, in October, Iactually went to Cox's Bazar
and saw the Rohingya andwhat was going on there.
Me and the former Ambassadorfor Religious Freedom,
David Saperstein, alongwith Magid Mohamed,
David is a Jewish rabbi, bythe way, and Magid Mohamed.
And so together, we went and we
looked at what was going on there,
and obviously were shocked by what we saw.
But I got back home, and I started
having people say, "You're an evangelical.
"You're a Christian.
"What about the Kachin?"
And I'm sorry to say, I didn't
know that much about the Kachin.
And begin to hear a lot of stories
about what was going on,that it was difficult,
that it was challenging, and so I went.
And I was there for about a week.
I was able to get into the Kachin State,
and I was able to visitwith many of the IDP camps
and a lot of the thingsthat were taking place.
And I was, frankly, prettyalarmed by what I saw.
And what alarmed me even more so,
I was curious how well the Kachin
actually understood what had happened
in the Rakhine State with the Rohingya
and how similar the beginning of what's
going on in the KachinState was very similar
with what was going on with the Rohingya.
So, I'm very concerned.
More than just a little concerned.
I'm very concerned aboutwhat I see taking place.
And I think now's thetime to respond to it.
For the most part, there's not a lot
that can be done anymore with what's
taking place with the Rohingya.
Obviously, you still got maybefour or 500,000 that are left
out of the 1.3 million that were there.
But you see the exact same things
taking place with the Kachin now.
Some I'm very concerned about it.
- I wanna ask you firstabout the Rohingya,
'cause I know it's thelargest mass migration
of a people group in recent history.
So what do you think it's gonnatake to get them back home?
- They don't wanna go home.
You've gotta understand,they had 450 villages
that were scorched earth, basically.
I was able to visit with some people
with our American embassy there.
And the Rohingya that arethere are, frankly, afraid.
But it's increasingly difficult
for them to leave and get to Bangladesh.
So it's quite serious.
The conditions at the camp that you see,
the largest one in the world,the conditions are horrible.
Open sewage, and nowthe monsoon has started.
And I had the privilegeof getting to visit
with Ambassador Brownback now,along with some other groups
that are working there,and the great tragedy is,
when the people went in there,
what they did, Gary, theystarting cutting all the wood down
for firewood, and they ran outta wood.
So the next thing they started to do
was digging the roots out of the ground.
And so, it's not just the monsoon.
Now they're concernedabout serious mudslides,
because there's nothingto hold the ground stable.
And so, they're literally preparing
for hundreds of thousands to die,
because there's nowhere for them to go,
and they're afraid to go back home.
- Wow, what a tragedy that is.
I guess the reason forus as believers to pray,
and also do what we can, but of course,
as Christians, we havecompassion for the Rohingya.
But also, our audience hasconcern for the Kachin.
So, tell us some more about the Kachin.
What did you witness when you saw them?
- Well, let me just, just a little bit
of background, if I could, on the Kachin.
Believe it or not, it's a state
where 95% of the people are Christians.
And they're primarilyBaptist, believe it or not.
And so, what happened is,they're a minority group.
They're in the Kachin State representing
about 1.4 million people, similar to what
the Rakhine state was with the Rohingya.
And so the first responsethat the Burmese have had is,
it's more of an ethnic cleansing issue.
And over 60 of the churchesthat have been destroyed,
they put Buddhist pagodas on top
of those to reclaim it, and so forth.
And you've gotta understand,
these people have a rich heritage.
It goes all the wayback to the early 1830s,
when Adoniram Judson first came.
These were some of thefirst to accept the gospel.
- I don't know that the president,
that Aung San Suu Kyi, the woman
they call The Lady, wouldbe complicit in this.
Don't you really think it's the military
that's behind all this andreally in control of Myanmar?
- I do.
That's my opinion.
But I don't know that.
So I can't say for sure.
But I'm prone to agree with you.
She took such a strongstand throughout her life.
And frankly, when I talked to many of the
Burmese Baptists that I visitedwith, that's what they said.
They said they felt like she was
unable because of the military.
Here's something elsethat alarmed me, Gary.
The same units that weredoing all the military
destruction down in the Rakhine State,
they've moved those upto the Kachin State.
Now the problem is, when you radicalize
and you create suchviolence among soldiers
that have been raping and murder,
you just don't turn that switch off.
I'm seeing the same thing.
I'm seeing 450 villagesthat have been destroyed,
and they're pushing all of these refugees
towards the churches inthe two major cities.
I mean, it's gonna be easypickings for the military
if they were to choose to go in.
- [Gary] Well what canour viewers do then, Bob?
- The number-one thing I would say is,
talk to your congressmen and your senator.
But the problem is, as westerners,
we can't get there, for the most part.
We can't go volunteer.
So the biggest thing that you could do
is to send money and resources
to the Kachin Baptist Convention,
because they're there, andthey're trying to do something.
Third, I would say, and this ought
to be the first thing, is to pray.
They're staying strong in their faith.
I mean, they're not compromising.
They're not giving up.
But it's a very serious issue.
This is not a minor thing.
- Okay, faith, prayer, action.
So Bob Roberts--- Yes, sir.
- Of the Faith Coalitionto Stop Genocide in Burma.
Thanks so much for joining us.
All eyes are on President Trump's meeting
with Vladimir Putin, butmany foreign policy experts
say the bigger threat to America's future
comes from China, not Russia.
President Trump plans toimpose more tariffs on China,
this time, attacks of about 10%
on $200 billion worth of goods.
Here with more is Chinaexpert Steven Mosher.
He's author of the book the Bully of Asia:
Why China's Dream Is theNew Threat to World Order.
Okay, Steven, thanks for joining us again.
Critics say this is the startof a trade war with China.
What do you think?
- Well, I don't think it's the start
of a trade war with China at all.
I think people need to understand
that China has been at war with us
across all domains, includingtrade, for the last 25 years.
It's a low-key war.
It's a non-kinetic war.
But make no mistake,they've been in a trade war
with us for a quarter-century.
What President Trump is trying to do
is end the trade war that Chinais carrying out against us.
You can't start a trade war that's
already been underway for a long time.
- So what is President Trumpreally after with China?
Is he on the right course, Steven?
- Oh, absolutely.
I argue that Americancompanies have never been able
to compete fairly with Chinese companies.
Because, look, if you'rean American company
and you go into China, you're squeezed dry
of your high-tech technology,
your software, your intellectual property.
And then you're squeezedback out of China.
American companies aren't competing
with Chinese companies,people need to understand.
They're competing withthe Chinese party state.
And that is an unwinnable situation.
It's got to change.
And it starts with ridingthe trade imbalance.
We simply cannot sustaina $400 billion loss
every year in trade terms to China.
And add to that $600 billion,
that's not my estimate,that's the FBI's estimate,
$600 billion in stolenintellectual property.
600 billion plus 400 billionis a trillion dollars
being made off with China,by China, every year.
We cannot let that continue.
- [Gary] And some of thecritics of this policy
are saying, "Well wait a minute,
"what about American farmers?
"The reciprocity of tariffsthat China's imposing
"on the US is only hurtingour agricultural business."
- Well, the Chinese areresponding by imposing
punitive tariffs on afew goods that they think
will hurt President Trump politically.
And, you know, I hadto smile the other day
when President for Life Xi Jinping,
make no mistake about it, hewill be in office forever.
He's the new red emperor in themold of Chairman Mao Zedong.
Xi Jinping said, "We Chinesedon't turn the other cheek.
And I'm thinking, he'stalking to the greatest
counterpunch that the world has ever seen.
In fact, we have a lotof leverage over China.
They need to continue drainingus of our high-tech balance,
keep draining us ofindustry, transferring most
of the world's industrialproduction to China
in order to succeed attheir China 2025 plan.
What is the China 2025 plan?
It's a plan to have allhigh-tech manufacturing,
especially cutting-edge thingslike robotics and so forth,
manufactured in China by 2025.
And from there, 10 yearslater, China 2035 plan
is to dominate the region and the world.
It's not in our interestto let that happen.
- Now, on to North Korea.
What do you think of Secretary of State
Mike Pompeo's recent visit to North Korea,
and what did he accomplish there?
- Well, here's wherethe rubber met the road.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo went
to Pyongyang and said one thing.
He said, "I need a complete list
"of your missile production facilities,
"of the locations of your missiles,
"of the nuclear production facilities,
"the location of theexisting nuclear weapons
"that you have, 20 or 30 in all.
"And then we need to set a phased process
"of dismantling all of these things.
"And once this happens," he said,
"we can talk about a peace treaty.
"We can talk aboutwithdrawing American troops.
"We will have peace onthe Korean Peninsula."
The North Koreans didn't like the fact
that there were realdemands being made of them
in exchange for lifting the sanctions.
And I have to say,
I've been following this for 30 years now.
This administration, for the first time,
has gone about dealing withNorth Korea the right way.
It is imposing sanctions on
North Korea and demanding results.
Every parent in the worldknows that you don't
reward bad behavior in your children.
We've been rewarding badbehavior in North Korea
from the time of theClinton administration,
giving them money andsaying, "Please play nice."
And of course, we got more of the same.
Now, we're going about it the right way.
We're punishing bad behavior.
The punishment, the punishing sanctions,
will not be lifted unlessNorth Korea complies.
And in fact, there's a lot more we can do.
We can actually askcountries to send their
North Korean workers home,from which North Korea
gets a lot of remittances overseas.
We can cut back on trade even further.
We can put more pressureon China, for example.
- And Steven, since theSingapore Summit, though,
we've seen North Korea continue
with its nuclear and missiledevelopment programs.
Is Kim Jong-un sincereabout denuclearization?
Or is he just, once again, playing us?
- Well, I think that Kim Jong-un,
who is the third in the Kim dynasty
to rule North Korea, is always playing us,
is always engaging indeceit and deception.
But the fact is that wehave now put him in a box.
We put him in a box bygetting his attention,
by getting him toSingapore, by showing him
that he had one of twoavenues he could pursue.
He could either continuehis nuclear weapons program,
or he could develop NorthKorea into a modern,
dynamic state with open borders.
- Grab your seat belts and buckle up,
because Democrats are getting ready
for another nasty, drag-out fight
over a Republican Supreme Court nominee.
Chuck Schumer pledges to do all he can
to stop Judge BrettKavanaugh from replacing
retiring Justice AnthonyKennedy on the Supreme Court.
- I'm gonna fight this nominationwith everything I've got.
- But the only thing SenatorSchumer's got against
this nominee are political differences,
nothing of substance toprevent his confirmation.
Lack of experience on the bench?
Nope, Kavanaugh has served for 12 years
on the US Court of Appeals in DC,
making 300 decisions there.
Lack of understanding of theConstitution and the judiciary?
Nope, he's a Yale Law School graduate.
He clerked for Justice Kennedy.
And like Justice Kagan, he'staught at Harvard Law School.
Nope, he's a devout Catholicwho coaches basketball.
He serves up meals to the homeless.
"Too political," you say.
Well his time serving theGeorge Bush White House
and with Special CounselKenneth Starr are pluses.
They've given him a better understanding
of how the executive branch of government
and the Justice Department function.
So here's the real reason Schumer
and other Democrats oppose Kavanaugh.
- My judicial philosophyis straightforward.
A judge must be independent and must
interpret the law, not make the law.
A judge must interpretstatutes as written.
And a judge must interpretthe Constitution as written,
informed by history andtradition and precedent.
- Judge Kavanaugh is an originalist.
He does not believe theConstitution has changed over time.
He doesn't think Supreme Court Justices
should legislate from the bench.
When American voters and legislators
reject left-wing ideas,liberals often judge shop.
They find a court thatshares their political views.
They present their legalcase before the judge.
The court rules in their favor.
You suddenly have a federally-imposed
law delivered from the bench.
And often, only one or two people make
that decision for the entire nation.
Such was the case withthe president's travel ban
and the Colorado same-sexmarriage wedding cake cases.
Thankfully, the Supreme Courtoverturned those decisions.
No, Senator Schumer, theresponsibility to legislate
belongs to you and your colleagues,
not the Supreme Courtor our federal judges.
You win some, you lose some.
I guess you're just tired of losing.
But I doubt you'll win this one,
because most Americans,and even some members
of your own party, seeno reason other than
political differences to oppose this
brilliant, decent Americanfamily man and jurist.
The spoils go to the victor.
This time, Donald Trump won the presidency
and the right to make another pick.
And like he did with NeilGorsuch, he's made a good one.
We all pray we won't see a repeat
of the viciousness and thecharacter assassination
that we witnessed duringthe confirmation hearings
of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
- I am a victim of this process.
My name has been harmed.
My integrity has been harmed.
My character has been harmed.
My family has been harmed.
My friends have been harmed.
There is nothing thiscommittee, this body,
or this country can do togive me my good name back.
- Justice Thomas, you'veserved this nation
and the Supreme Court honorably,
and you do have your good name back.
Now, join us in praying that
Judge Brett Kavanaughwill endure and keep his.
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