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700 Club Interactive - July 20, 2018

Wilbur Zook went a year with unexplained back and hip pain and no lasting relief. He finally turned to the only One he knew could heal him. Read Transcript


- [Gordon] The Bible comesto life through archeology.

- You read it in theBible, you dig in the dirt,

and there it is.

- [Gordon] Hidden relicsof the first capital

of ancient Israel are uncovered.

Plus.

- [Melissa] They tell us only 1% make it.

- [Gordon] A marriage where both spouses

survive drug addiction.

- [Melissa] That's a miracle.

Two addicts getting clean.

- [Gordon] What turned itaround for this couple.

- Everything that I haveto this day, I owe to God.

- On today's 700 Club Interactive.

Welcome to the show.

If you think science andthe Bible don't go together,

consider this.

Archeologists in Israel

are verifying Biblical history every day.

Chris Mitchell takes usto a dig that's uncovering

one of the most importantsites in The Old Testament.

- You're looking at theheart of Biblical Israel,

along the route known asthe Way of the Patriarchs.

This is ancient Shiloh, theplace where the Bible says

Joshua divided the promisedland between the 12 tribes,

and where the tabernacle of the Lord stood

for more than 300 years.

- Welcome to ancient Shiloh.

This is the first capitalof ancient Israel,

and it's a sacred spotbecause the mischkan was here,

the tabernacle where peoplecame to connect with God.

- [Chris] Scott Striplingdirects the excavation here

and along with dozens of volunteers,

they're digging into history.

- We're dealing with real people,

real places, real events.

This is not mythology.

The coins that we excavated today,

we're talking aboutcoins of Herod the Great,

Pontius Pilate, Festus, Felix,

Agrippa I, Agrippa II.

The Bible talks about these people.

We've got the image right there.

- [Chris] That image includesa fortified wall built

by the Canaanites.

They're finding a treasuretrove of artifacts,

including coins and 2,000pieces of pottery a day.

- Now this one was from yesterday.

It's been washed already.

So you see the same form right

out of the ground and yesterday,

these are those handlesfrom the stone vessels.

Remember Jesus' first miracle at Cana,

there were stone jars full of water.

That's that ritual purityculture of the first century.

- [Chris] An archeologistlooks at these sherds

as a fine time piece.

- Just like your greatgrandmother's pottery is different

from your pottery that you're using today,

and once we learn the pottery,

then we can use it as ourprimary means of dating.

- [Chris] Stripling says literally digging

into the Bible can change your life.

- You can read the Bible,you can walk the Bible,

but the ultimate is to dig the Bible.

When we actually get intothe soil like these students

from Lee University, they're literally,

it's under their fingernailsand in their nose

and in their mouth and in their ears.

And they're exposing this ancient culture.

It becomes one with you and sort

of like we came out of the soil,

and as we dig into the soil,

we connect with God andeach other, I think,

in a very important way.

- I love gettin' my hands dirty.

I love diggin' in the dirt.

It's my favorite thing.

- [Chris] People from all ages man the dig

with the main drivers beingstudents like Abigail.

- It's tiring and exhausting,but it's really rewarding.

It's exciting to find ancient things,

things that have been laying in the dirt

just waiting for usfor thousands of years.

- [Chris] She says the Biblecomes alive in the dirt.

- I read the Bible totallydifferently than I did

before I came here.

When I read the Bible, I know the places.

I know what's going on.

I understand it more deeply,

especially where previousarcheologists have claimed

that the archeology disproves the Bible.

But when we dig here, wefind that everything matches.

You read it in the Bible,you dig in the dirt,

and there it is.

- Archeology doesn't set outto prove or disprove the Bible.

What we wanna do is toilluminate the Biblical text,

the background of the text.

So to set it in a real world culture,

to what we call verisimilitude.

We get an ancient literary description,

now we have materialculture that matches that.

Chris, you're sitting whereSamuel and Eli and Hannah

and these people that we have read about,

they came just like us, needing answers,

needing to connect withGod, needing forgiveness.

- [Chris] He says they dig into the past

and find lessons for the present.

- One of the faithlessons for us is that God

is the potter and we're the clay.

Even if our lives are broken,like these vessels are,

God told Jeremiah after he told him

to go to Shiloh and see what he had done,

he told him to go to the potter's house

and look at a flawed vessel and see

how the potter puts it back on the wheel

and works out the imperfections.

My faith lesson is this,that yes, we're imperfect,

but if we'll allow God,

he wants to put us on his potter's wheel

and he wants to make us a vessel of honor.

- [Chris] Stripling oftensites Psalm 102 that says,

O Zion, your servantstake delight in its stones

and favor its dust.

- Ultimately, Chris, if the Bible is true,

then the God of the Bible hasa moral claim on our lives.

And as we establish theveracity of the Biblical text,

I hope that everyone watchingwill just think about that,

that God loves us and he hasa moral claim on our lives.

- [Chris] Chris Mitchell, CBN News,

Shiloh, Biblical Samaria.

- It's amazing that everyday or every week it seems,

there's new archeologicalevidence coming out of Israel

showing the history of the Bible,

that the places described in the Bible,

the people describedin the Bible, are real.

And it's wonderful.

Well, CBN Internationalis helping teach children

in Africa about Jesus.

Recently, a Superbook team ina remote village in Senegal

hosted a special celebration.

Children shared what they'velearned in their club.

They sang and danced withSuperbook character, Gizmo,

and then watched the episode of Jonah.

At the end, more than half the children

invited Jesus into their hearts.

Even the chief of the village,

a Muslim man came to thankCBN for the partnership.

And that is a wonderful thing.

Yeah, what a great thingSuperbook is doing.

You can be a part of it justby joining the Superbook club.

New research showscoffee may boost chances

for a longer life.

In a study published by thejournal of American Medicine,

it's their Internal Medicine Journal,

out of nearly half amillion British adults,

coffee drinkers had a slightly lower risk

of death over 10 years,

even for those who downat least eight cups a day.

Overall, coffee drinkers wereabout 10 to 15% less likely

to die during the decade of research.

However, and this is a big however,

study didn't includewhether if you add sugar

or cream to your coffee,does that make a difference.

So, they'll have to beanother study on that,

but if you're drinkingcoffee, have another cup.

The Bible talks aboutthe sins of the father

being passed down onto thethird and fourth generation.

As it turns out, medicalscience backs this up.

It's called epigenetics, andas Lorie Johnson explains,

it can also show us how tobreak these generational curses.

- Thanks to these new DNA home test kits,

you can learn all about yourgenes and various health issues

just by filling one ofthese tubes with saliva

and sending it to the lab.

While those results may reveal a lot,

they don't always tell the whole story.

Expert Doctor, Michael Roizenof the Cleveland Clinic,

compares epigenetics to a light switch.

Our behavior can silenceour genes or activate them.

- In which of your genes are on or not

are, to a large degree yourchoices by things you do.

Is epigenetics important?

Absolutely.

- [Lorie] Our DNA is made up of genes.

Our behavior, such as whatwe eat, smoke, even think,

dispatch markers to the top of our DNA,

which tell our genes to turn on or off.

- So if you're stressedand not managing it,

you're going to turn certain genes

on that cause inflammation.

- [Lorie] Even pregnant mothers can affect

their babies genes, suchas those that retain fat.

- If you don't get enoughfood during pregnancy,

your body, the babies' body if you will,

says hey, I'm going tocome out to an environment

that's sparse in food.

So I'm going to turn onthe genes that allow me

to save food and be, ifyou will, very efficient.

That means that when youeat food after you're born,

you're going to gain a lot more weight.

- The reverse is also true.

Even if a female isunhealthy before pregnancy,

she can turn thingsaround for her offspring

if she adopts a healthierlifestyle while she's pregnant.

The new field ofepigenetics began in 2003,

here at Duke University.

Doctor Randy Jirtleproved DNA is not destiny

with his landmark Aguti mouse study.

The mice carried the Agutigene, causing obesity,

diabetes, and jaundice.

But when Jirtle fed pregnantfemales lots of vitamins,

her offspring ended upthin, healthy, and brown.

- I feel like we've madea contribution to science

that will be there, literally forever.

- [Lorie] Dr. Jirtle compares epigenetics

to programming a computer.

- The deterministic partin our system is the DNA.

That's the stable part.

The free will part comesin through the software

that tells that deterministicsystem how to work.

We are, in effect, aprogrammable computer.

That's how we were made.

- [Lorie] And the behavior of both parents

can alter their child's gene expression

and sometimes these changes stick.

- You can see that, in effect, what God,

I think was telling uswas that this is the way

you're made and if youmess with this system,

you're not gonna alter the genome so much

but you're gonna alteryour programs, and those,

since they're not totallyerased necessarily

from generation to generation as they go

through the egg and the sperm,

can literally give rise toproblems in the next generation

and the following and the following out

to four and five generations.

- [Lorie] As epigeneticsresearch proceeds,

scientists hope topinpoint how specific areas

of the genome are affected.

Still, one thing's for certain.

Lifestyle choices can bring out the best

or worst in our DNA, acrossmultiple generations.

- That is an amazing story and it backs up

what the Bible says.

The Bible says, the sins ofthe fathers will be visited

on the children to thethird or fourth generation.

But here's the good news.

Righteousness goes fora thousand generations.

So your behavior will changeand be a determining factor

in the generations that follow you.

That is wonderful news

and it's also very scarynews at the same time.

Up next, a husband and wifewho were married to drugs.

- I was a full on heroine addict.

- We were both shooting up.

Meth makes you not care at all.

- Only 1% of marriages make it

with both spouses drug addicted.

See how this couple beatthe odds when we come back.

(lively music)

Drug addiction ravaged thelives of Steve and Melissa Ray.

Steve started with pain pills

and that quickly escalated to heroine.

Melissa was hooked afterher first shot of meth.

The day they met, theywere both shooting up,

and later when they married,no one believed it would last.

- [Steve] Imagine amarriage with both spouses

surviving drug addition.

- [Melissa] They tell us only 1% make it,

and by the grace of God, we have.

- I'm Steve Ray and I know redemption.

- I'm Melissa Ray and I know hope.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family.

My dad was a raging alcoholicand he abused my mom.

(gentle music)

They divorced when I was in sixth grade.

I started drinking,

even started doing cocainein ninth, tenth grade.

I quit high school and Igot married at 17 in Vegas

and that lasted three months.

(engine revving)

- By the time I was 16 years old,

I was a licensed AMAprofessional motor cross racer.

It's a very technical sort.

One little mishap here,one little turn there,

can put you in grave danger.

It's a roller coaster ride andit is a parallel to my life.

I started running aroundwith different people.

Even into the mariajuana,

I noticed that it really started changing

the person that I wanted to become.

- [Narrator] In 2001,the cycle of drinking

and marriage continued for Melissa.

- I met my second husband whenI was 21, in a bar, drinking.

Got married.

I had my beautiful son.

We just kept drinkingthroughout our whole marriage.

Mine escalated.

I couldn't stop in the endand it ended in a divorce

after 14 years.

- My first part of arelationship, it was adulterous.

She was married.

She divorced her husband.

We ended up together.

I knew from day one it was doomed.

A year of marriage, we were divorced.

I met my second wife.

We had a baby and she wasdropped at six months old.

It gave her brain damage andI have a disabled daughter

and I'm working for $6 an hour.

Going through that was one ofthe worst times of my life.

- The end of my second marriage,our divorce and everything,

it about killed me.

And I obviously didn't cope with it well.

My pain was so deep,

deep, deep.

I was drinking.

I met a guy that said, "hey,you wanna do some meth?"

And I tried it and I was hooked.

- After my second marriage,I ended up with another girl,

and there was constantinfidelities on her side.

Everything just startedsnowballing out of control,

started with pain pills.

The addiction became worse.

Within four months, I wasa full blow heroine addict.

I was in and out of jail,ended up living under a bridge

and wherever I could land.

It was such a cold, dark time in my life.

I had lost all hope.

- Then I met Steve in 2007.

I found somebody stronger then I was.

- It was on the fourth of July.

Her boyfriend's brother askedme if I wanted to go party,

so we showed up and out walks Melissa.

I just was in awe ofhow beautiful she was.

- And we were both shooting up.

I felt like I lost my son,

'cause he didn't wanna talk to me.

There was nothing left to live for.

And so I just medicated.

Meth makes you not care at all.

- I was so high out of mymind, I didn't know what to do.

So I ended up in jail.

In that cell by myself,

I realized I wanted to give myself to God.

I fell to my knees and Iasked God's forgiveness.

God put a picture intomy heart of what my life

was going to turn into with Melissa.

- [Narrator] In 2010,with Steve now out of jail

and growing in his new found faith,

both he and Melissaconfronted their addictions.

- We got married and we had Stevie,

when he told me about thevision that God gave him.

So every time I would try to find drugs,

he wouldn't go with me.

I hit my rock bottom.

I begged God to please, pleasetake this addiction from me.

And he did.

The next morning, I had nocraving, nothing ever since,

and it's been almost six years.

So God is amazing.

- It was May 2010, beautiful,

sunny day and I followed my dog out,

all the way across into a cemetery.

I ended up at the statueof Jesus, fell to my knees,

cried and prayed and beggedGod to change my life.

Please take this addiction away.

Everything started coming together.

I put addiction behindme and I was moving on.

- I thank him every dayfor everything he has done

for us because that's a miracle,

two addicts gettingclean and sober together,

and staying together.

After 30 years of addiction,

I thought there was no hope for me at all.

- Everything that I have,to this day, I owe to God,

because I did not stayclean and sober two days

without God's help.

Not until I went through allthe things that I went through

and God entered my life didI ever really understand

or know what love really even meant.

- God is my everything.

He saved me from the pit of hell.

God has made me into a new person.

He's the father I neverhad and I can trust him.

I finally realized thatsomebody loves me and it's him,

our father in heaven.

I can do anything with him by my side.

- And you can realize that same thing.

You can realize, finallyrealize, that somebody loves you,

and he loves you infinitely.

And he loves you so much, hewas willing to die for you.

When you get that deep into your heart,

when you understandthat God did everything,

he came down from heaven,he lived this endless life,

so that we wouldn't have to.

He took that, he took thatas a sacrifice, on a cross,

for you and me, so that we could

be with him for all eternity.

He never intended anyone to be addicted.

He never intended anyoneto be far from him.

We're the ones that took that choice.

We're the ones that went down that path,

but he is the one that says,I can turn everything around.

I can make all things new again.

Now for Steve and Melissa,you look at their lives

and you go, there's alot of problems there.

And whether it's growing up in

an abusive environment orbeing an extreme risk taker

or you start adding it all up,

the number of relationships,the number of marriages,

the number of things that were broken.

God turned all of that around for them,

and he can do the same thing for you.

You don't have to look atlife and say it's hopeless,

there can never be anythinggood that comes out of me.

You can't go too far from him.

You can't be too dead for a resurrection.

What does it take, what doyou have to do to get this,

to get hope back into your life,

to get love back into your life?

Well, it's really simple.

You ask for it.

And just as Melissa asked for it,

just as Steve asked forit, you have to ask for it.

In that asking, thereneeds to be a surrender.

It's not by your willanymore, it's by his.

It's by his ability that you come through,

that you make it through.

If you want this, if you wanna do this,

don't change the channel.

Don't let another daygo by where you wonder,

where's the end?

How do I get out of this?

Take this step now.

You've seen the results.

You can have the same thingif you follow the same path.

And it's real simple.

All you have to do is bowyour head and pray with me,

and we'll let Jesus do all the rest.

Pray now.

Bow your head, close youreyes, and say, Jesus,

say it out loud.

Jesus, I come to you

and I see the things

that you've done for other people,

and Jesus, I want that for me.

I want you.

I want you in my life, in my heart.

So Jesus, I open the door,

and I ask that you come in.

I ask that you forgiveme of all the things

that I've done wrong.

I ask that you change me and make me new

and give me a new heart, a newspirit, a new understanding.

And Jesus, if you do this for me,

I want to follow youall the days of my life.

Hear my prayer.

Answer my prayer today, forI ask it in Jesus' name.

Father, for those who just prayed,

I ask for a baptism in your love.

I ask that you break anychain of addiction over them,

that you set them freefrom any compulsion now.

In Jesus' name, be withthem, encourage them now,

for I ask it in Jesus' name.

Amen and Amen.

Who the son sets free is free indeed.

That's what the Biblesays, so rejoice in it,

and let somebody knowthat you just prayed,

you just asked Jesus tocome into your heart.

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Coming up, an active senior gets sidelined

with back and hip pain.

- It took me extra time toget in and out of the car.

There's a lot of things thatyou just used to do normally

and automatically, all ofa sudden, become a problem.

- See how he finally kicksthe pain, after this.

(lively music)

One day, Wilbur Zook was an active senior,

had no problems getting around.

The next day, he woke upwith excruciating pain

that hindered his every movement.

For a year, Wilbur soughtmedical relief from the pain,

but nothing worked.

Then he remembered somethinghe'd seen on The 700 Club.

(lively music)

- [Narrator] In 2015in Kalamazoo, Michigan,

Wilbur Zook was enjoying lifeas a healthy 83 year old.

Then one day, he woke up with intense pain

in his back and hip.

- The first thought was,

I think if I take a littlepain medication, it'll go away,

because that's the way I've always lived.

It seemed like it wasalways something temporary.

- [Narrator] But the pain persisted

and Wilbur soon found himself

unable to move without using a cane.

- It was taking awaysome of my independence.

I probably couldn't do all thethings that I've always done

and so I'd have to readjustmy life to live with it.

Satan's a terrible guy.

He tries to convinceyou that this is normal,

and it's not.

(lively music)

- [Narrator] Wilbur startedgoing to a chiropractor,

but the pain continued to nag him.

- There's a lot of things thatyou just used to do normally

and automatically, all ofa sudden, become a problem.

It took me extra time to get out of bed.

It took me extra time toget in and out of the car.

When you're used to moving, it's not good.

- [Narrator] Wilbur decidedto try physical therapy.

There he was diagnosedwith segmental disfunction

and degeneration in his back and hip.

Though therapy helpedWilbur manage his pain,

the therapist said weekly treatments

were his only option for lasting relief.

- I may be this the rest of my life.

And I wasn't happy with that at all.

- [Narrator] It was thenthat Wilbur, a Pastor's son,

recalled something hehad learned long ago.

- Then I did remember a 700 Club program

where this guy got onthere and he explained

how God healed him.

And it was that he went through and dug

out healing scriptures and every morning,

he would pray over themand ask for healing

and then thank the Lord for this healing.

And then I said, I know God can heal me.

Why am I not going to him first?

- [Narrator] Wilbur spentthe next month meditating

on healing scriptures and believing God

for complete healing.

- By his stripes I amhealed, and I was believing.

I said, it's time to believe it.

I think I started outasking God for forgiveness

for not believing his word,

and that he would touch my heart.

Excuse me.

(lively music)

- [Narrator] Then, onthe 30th day of prayer--

- I got up that morning andmy cane was still setting

beside my bed, and I couldstand up without any pain,

without the cane.

I started praising the Lord.

My hands went up in the air,

and I couldn't stop it.

It was something that God had done for me,

and I wanted to acknowledge his presence.

(gentle music)

- [Narrator] Wilbur told everyone he could

about the goodness he experiencedin the Lord's healing.

- Where's your cane?

I said, I don't need it anymore,God healed me last night.

He said, "how'd that happen?"

And I had to tell him, you know,

that it came because I trustedGod, that his word is true.

- [Narrator] Today,Wilbur is still pain free.

He no longer needs thecane as he stays active

in his community and iseven planning his wedding

with his fiance, Trudy.

- I read healing scriptures every morning.

And that's kept mehealthy, and my doctor says

I'm the healthiest 85year old she's ever seen.

It's been a good lesson forme to learn that do everything

you can with man's ideas and stuff,

but it's really God thathas the real answers.

- And God has the answers for you,

you just have to do what Wilbur did.

If you need prayer, we're here for ya.

All you have to do is call us.

There's a verse, humbleyourselves, therefore,

under the mighty hand ofGod so at the proper time,

he may exalt you. '

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