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The 700 Club - August 3, 2018

A convict shares his story of joining the Aryan Brotherhood in prison…and what happened after they kicked him out. Plus, Psychologist Ramona Probasco about finding healing in Christ after leaving an abusive relationship. Read Transcript

- [Narrator] The followingprogram is sponsored by CBN.

- [Gordon] Coming up.

- [Kevin] I had anything I wanted.

- [Gordon] He was six foot seven.

- [Kevin] I started feeling miserable.

- [Gordon] And in the statepen, survival is number one.

- I wasn't gonna be messed with.

- [Gordon] This con tells why

he joined the Aryan Brotherhood.

- [Kevin] I liked thepower that came with it.

- [Gordon] And what happenedafter they kicked him out.

- [Kevin] I remember it being black.

- [Gordon] On today's 700 Club.

(energetic music)

- Well welcome to The 700 Club.

The country's four top intelligence chiefs

are making it clear, ourdemocracy is in the cross hairs.

In a rare joint appearance,

they accused RussianPresident Vladimir Putin

of personally directing attacks

against our election process

and other critical infrastructure.

- They also sent a sternwarning to Russia cyber hackers,

stop or pay the price.

CBN's National Security Correspondent,

Erik Rosales gives us a closer look.

- Standing with the TrumpAdministration power players,

ranging from the Director of the FBI

to the National Security Advisor,

Director of National Intelligence,

Dan Coats sounded the alarm.

He said Russia is justa keyboard click away

from a major election hack.

- We continue to see a pervasive

messaging campaign by Russia

to try to weaken anddivide the United States.

These efforts are notexclusive to this election

or future elections, butcertainly cover issues

relevant to the election.

- [Erik] In a rare show of united force,

the National Security Leader stood

in front of the White Housepress corp to blast Russia,

and talk about potential implications.

- Any moment is just a moment before

the dial can be turned upone, much as we saw in 2016.

Again, not in terms ofaffecting the vote count,

but in terms of potential penetration

of voter registration databases or something like that.

- Our democracy itselfis in the cross hairs.

- [Erik] They shared alaundry list of what we face

from attempts to suppress voting

to illegal campaignfunding to cyber attacks.

The warning comes just days

after Facebook shut downdozens of fake accounts

like those targeting hotbutton social issues,

part of a sophisticatedcampaign to influence Americans.

Coats pointed straight at Russia,

adding the orders often comefrom Vladimir Putin himself.

- Russia has used numerous ways

in which they want to influencethrough media, social media,

through bots, throughactors that they hire,

through proxies, all of theabove, and potentially more.

- Each brought up the importance

of the government intelligencecommunity partnering

with social media andtechnology companies,

providing them with classified briefings

so that they could bettermonitor their platforms

and protect our democracy.

Erik Rosales, CBN News Washington.

- Well the warning fromour intelligence officials

has prompted quick actionfrom the U.S. Senate.

John Jessup has more on that story

from our CBN News Bureauin Washington, John?

- Thanks Gordon, democratand republican senators

are responding to theintelligence chief's warning,

proposing new sanctions against Russia.

The measure they're considering

would target powerfulRussian business leaders

and those indicted forinterfering in our elections.

It could even target President Putin,

requesting informationabout his personal holdings

and net worth.

South Carolina republicanLindsey Graham said,

the goal is to impose crushing sanctions

against Putin's Russiauntil it stops meddling

in our election process

and carrying out cyberattacks on our infrastructure.

Democrat Bob Menendez added,

"It's the next step

in tightening the screws on the Kremlin."

Well the president is beefing up

his Middle East advisoryteam as he prepares

to put out a Middle Ease peace plan.

The Associated Press reportsthe National Security Council

is asking agencies for volunteersto join the policy team

that will support leadnegotiators Jared Kushner

and Jason Greenblatt.

President Trump promised to deliver a plan

for Israeli Palestinian peace,

but so far has not given any details.

Well, a 2017 study found theaverage time for an ambulance

to arrive at an emergencyin the United States

is eight minutes.

Imagine how many lives could be saved

if that was cut to three minutes or less.

One Jerusalem-basedorganization found a solution

they believe will change the world.

(siren blaring)

This is what it's like to ride

through the streets ofIsrael on an ambucycle.

It weaves through trafficwhere an ambulance cannot.

CBN News got a firsthand look.

- We're riding around withUnited Hatzalah volunteers

here on the streets of Jerusalem,

where they can respondto a medical emergency

or an accident within 90 seconds.

It's really the game changer

in life saving emergency medical care.

- We think that the largestcause of preventable death

in the west is waiting for an ambulance.

United Hatzalah addressesthat by getting a volunteer,

someone who's trained, equipped, notified

in the immediate vicinity of the victim

to that person within 90 seconds

or in a larger geography three minutes.

- [Chris] United Hatzalahwhich means rescue,

is the inspiration of Eli Beer.

- People die everyday waiting for help.

My dream for United Hatzalah is make sure

that no one will ever die from things

that they could be saved.

Growing up I decided I wannabecome a doctor and save lives.

- [Chris] Beer shared thatdream on a TEDMED talk

that went viral.

He said as a young ambulance driver,

he often arrived at an emergencytoo late to save a life

and decided to change that.

- Together with 15 of myfriends we were all EMTs,

we decided let's protect our neighborhood.

So when something like that happens again,

we will be there running to the scene

long before the ambulance.

- [Chris] From 15 friends years ago,

today United Hatzalah has 5,000 volunteers

throughout Israel.

They're ability to respond to an emergency

in three minutes or lessrests on three things:

the ambucycle, volunteersavailable at a moments notice,

and technology connecting them.

- Israelis are good at technology.

Every one of us has on his phone

no matter what kind of phone,

a GPS technology done by NowForce

and whenever a call comes in,

their closest fivevolunteers get the call.

They actually get there really quick

and navigated by a traffic navigator

to gets there and not waste time.

This is a great technologywe use all over the country

and reduce the response time.

- There's another emergencythat just went off right now.

We're currently in UntiedHatzalah national command

and dispatch center.

What's happening right behind me here

is that volunteers from around the country

in the eight different regions

that we broke the country down into

are being dispatched to emergencies.

We receive about 1,000emergencies per day.

- [Chris] Then volunteersfrom each cross section

of Israeli society go into action.

That's where the ambucycle comes in.

- Everything that's in anambulance is in this ambucycle.

- [Chris] Yeah, so this islike a life-saving measures

within the first coupleof minutes of crisis.

- Right, so I get to the callwithin three minutes or less.

I arrive, I throw on my jacket

and I immediately start treating.

Everything that the ambulancehas except the stretcher

is in this box right here.

I have a defibrillator under the seat

and everything else is in this bag.

- [Chris] This life-saving equipment

can often get to an emergencysooner than an ambulance.

This real life video showsan ambulance stuck in traffic

and an ambucycle weaving its way through.

But they exist to compliment

rather than compete with the ambulance.

- Basically, we're there to fill the gap.

Until the ambulance arrives in those first

crucial, critical minutes,we have help is on-scene.

Help is arrived, we're stabilizing

and by the time the ambulance comes,

he is ready for transport to the hospital.

Getting there in 90 seconds

is the game-changer in EMS worldwide.

- [Chris] That time gapcan mean life or death.

- I could tell you every second counts.

If you wait two more secondsfor someone who has no oxygen

for more than six or seven minutes,

there's no chance of saving that person.

If you do save 'em, thatperson will have damage

for the rest of their lifeand will need assistance.

By having thousands of volunteers,

think about it, it's like Uber everywhere.

- [Chris] The dream isto take it worldwide.

Beer sees it as another way Israel

wants to help beyond its borders.

- This is a (mumbles).

This a gift to the world.

We are light over the nationsin terms of many things,


No one realize that inmedicine, fast response,

Israel's the fastest in the world

and we could share this with everyone.

Anyone who wants to learnfrom us, we're there for them.

- [Chris] Chris Mitchell, CBN News,

on the streets of Jerusalem.

- Seeing Chris Mitchell on the back

of a ambucycle's priceless.

Gordon, Israel.

The tiny nation of Israelconstantly creating

and innovating new ideas all the time.

- That's part of fulfillment of scripture.

You find in Isaiah there tobe a light to the nations

for the salvation of the world.

Whether it's the newtechnology coming out of Israel

or this wonderful ideawith United Hatzalah.

Hats off to Mark Gerson, EliBeer for this wonderful idea.

I hope it spreads around the world.


- Well coming up, they'rea group that's bringing aid

to Holocaust victims,the families of soldiers

and also helping Jews around the world

return to their homeland.

The woman behind the largestphilanthropic organization

in Israel joins us live, so don't go away.

(inspirational news music)

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- Well for the past 35 years,

one organization has been working

towards fulfilling its vision,

seeing Christians andJews working together

and easing the sufferingall over the world.

[Narrator] Since 1983

the International Fellowshipof Christians and Jews

has built bridges ofcooperation around the world,

along with broad supportfor the State of Israel.

Whether it's rescuingpersecuted Christians

in the Middle East, gettinghelp to elderly Jews in Russia

or providing needed medicineto Holocaust survivors

in Israel, the Fellowshipas it's known, is there

reaching the desperate,lonely and forgotten.

Today Yael Eckstein,Rabbi Eckstein's daughter

and global Vice Presidentof the Fellowship

carries on the family tradition

of helping Israel and Jews worldwide.

- Yael Eckstein joins us nowand welcome to The 700 Club.

- Thank you so much.- Great to have you with us.

- It's wonderful to be hereGordon, thank you so much.

- Your father's a legend,he has pioneered this.

Back in the early 1980s, Iremember the start of it.

What do you remember about the beginning?

- The truth is it's a funny question.

I don't remember much becausemy father went out to work

and when he came home, he was simply Abba.

So we didn't reallyknow what he was doin'.

We knew he was helping people.

We knew that we had Christiansat our Passover, Seder,

which was wonderful and exposedus to a whole another world

but we didn't know what he was doin'.

We knew he was doing good things,

but we couldn't really tell you what.

Because when he came home,he was simply father, Abba.

- When did it dawn on youthat this was a big deal?

- The truth is it was whenI was already an adult

and I made aliyah move to Israel.

I went out and I saw the bomb shelters

and the food was bein'delivered to elderly

who didn't have any.

I saw the orphans were getting clothing

and I said, "Wow, this is huge."

I started speaking tosome Fellowship supporters

and God just spoke to me,"Yael, this is truth."

Bridging Jews and Christians together

and seeing the heart of Christians

that's just so pure and on fire for God.

From that fire for Godcomes this love for Israel

and its desire to bringBiblical prophecy to reality.

I just felt God speak to me.

When my children dwell together

is when prophecy willhappen; we can't do it alone.

It was that moment that I said,"I wanna be part of this."

- Tell us about thework of the Fellowship.

It seemed to have beginnings in aliyah

and now it seems to be doingmore on the humanitarian side.

- We still have a big focus on aliyah.

We have flights landingevery single day in Israel.

- Every day?- Yeah,

from non-western countries,

places where Jews areat-risk like Yemen, Morocco.

We work in some placesI can't even speak about

including the former SovietUnion, which obviously we can.

We have flights landing every single day

and that's one of our flagship projects.

The Biblical prophecy ofbringing the Jewish people home

scattered amongst allfour corners of the earth

coming home to Israel's prophetic,

especially from theBiblical Land of the North,

the former Soviet Union.

So that's a big focus of ours,

but we've also expandedto reach more needs.

(Yael speaking Hebrew)

"Comfort ye, comfort ye,my people," says the Lord.

We've built over 5,500 bomb shelters.

We're the largest supporters to

different needs in themilitary and security crosses.

Real drones, securitydrones for different cities

so they could see ifsomeone's trying to infiltrate

before they get to the city.

Before there is a massacre,they're able to identify that.

Also the basic needs; welook at charity today.

There's a lot of wonderful charities,

like computers for high school students

and scholarships, which is wonderful.

But we look at the Bible andGod tells us what Sadaqah,

what charity is andthat's to feed the hungry,

to clothe the naked, to shelter.

- Isaiah 58.- Exactly.

That's really where we're led,

so we help 20,000 elderlyevery month with food.

We have over 4,000volunteers across Israel

where we bring them food,we bring them comfort

and we use those volunteersto be the voice of

millions of Christians across the world.

We are their voice.

In Israel, we go and we say,

"This is from Christians who love you."

It's just the greatest(chuckles) honor from the Lord

that he's using us in such huge ways.

- I hear something you're doin'

that I think most people don't know

and that you're actuallyhelping persecuted Christians

in the Middle East.

- Correct.- What is that?

- Well up until around a year ago,

we were helping mostlythe Jewish communities

with security outside ofIsrael and inside of Israel.

Then we realized the Christian community

has been standing with the Jewish people

during their time of needwhen the Soviet Union fell

and Jews had to get out.

It was the Christian community

with your father whostood behind my father.

Exactly, together hand-in-hand

to say Jews and Christiansare gonna make this happen

to bring them home to Israel.

It worked, God blessed it.

Today we're seeingChristians being persecuted

and no one doing anything about it.

Maybe some prayers but webelieve prayer is the weapon;

I call it the weapon of mass destruction.

We can change anything with prayer

but we have to act with it.

We have to defeat to that prayer.

And so so many people are praying

for the persecuted Christians right now,

with communities beingwiped out completely.

For the first time in 2,000 years

since they've settled there,they're being wiped out.

Communities, it's a genocide.

The Fellowship said we can't sit back

and watch this happen.

The Jewish community has to be there

for the Christian community as well.

Now we're helping Christians

who have actually made it to Jordan.

It's very difficult insideSyria or Iraq to help them

because the money all getsfunneled through the terrorists.

There are those Christianswho have escaped

and made it to Jordan.

In Jordan, they don't have citizenship,

so they're not allowed to work.

They also don't get anymoney from the government,

so they're completely poor

and have no money for food and no help,

but they're allowed to livethere without being persecuted.

The Fellowship is going in

and we're giving them their basic needs,

like we're giving toJews around the world.

Food, medicine and housing.

Then we're also being an advocate for them

to get them to a permanent location

where they could actuallystart their lives,

where they could work and get established.

- That's gotta be very difficultbecause in that process

don't they have to qualifywithin the UN for refugee status,

then the whole controversy over refugees

coming outta the Middle East now?

How difficult is it to get them out?

- That's exactly correct; it's not easy.

But we believe that thesepersecuted Christians

should get priority when youtalk about refugee status.

They have been persecuted for their faith.

We know that they'renot terrorists, Gordon.

There are some people that come,

their uncle might have been terrorists

and you have to do a lotof background information,

background checks.

Are they terrorists, are they not?

These Christians havenothing to do with terrorism.

They're victims ofterrorism that we believe

they should be givenpriority refugee status

and taken out immediately.

That's just one of the areasof persecuted Christians

that we help.

The Coptic Christiansin Egypt, for example,

we're there helping theCoptic Christians in Egypt.

When after their church wasbombed and their children killed

when they were on a schoolbus on the way to a camp.

We are there to also provide them

with food, medicine and shelter.

- Last time I was with your father,

he was talking about Korea.

The Fellowship has gone worldwide.

It's amazing how he'sbringing people from Asia,

from Latin America, fromEurope, North America.

It's incredible, so I've gotta ask ya

what's it like takingover from a famous father?

- Sometimes I feel like a midget

sitting on the shoulders of a giant.

I try to learn everything I can from him.

Everything he says I just respect

and look at with awe and admiration.

I think what he appreciates also is that

I have a different perspective

for the next generation, specifically.

Different tools to reach out to people

who might not have otherwiseheard about our mission.

Different ways of doing things.

I wouldn't say I'm taking over'cause that kinda scares me,

but that we're workingtogether to really bring

the Fellowship to new places.

I think we both really feellike this was a blessing

from the Lord that we both have this,

that my father could seethe visions for the future

and who's taking it over.

He stands behind me, obviously,

and just appreciates it so much.

Even though in the beginning,he wouldn't gimme a job

with the Fellowship. (chuckles)

- He wouldn't?- He wouldn't.

I went to him when I sawwhat was happening in Israel

and I said, "Abba, Iwanna be part of this."

He said, "Yael go to law school." (laughs)

He said "I've had 35 yearswithout any nepotism,

"without any accusations ofany sort of wrong doings.

"If you come in people are gonna say

"it's just because you're mydaughter so I can't do that.

"You're smart, go be a lawyer."

I went and I actually called

the head of our Chicago office, George.

I said "George, do youhave anything I could do

"because I need to be part of this."

I kinda worked my way up

without my father beinginvolved until one day

he said, "Yael, this is from the Lord,"

and he embraced it full on.

- [Gordon] What convinced him?

- I think it was he really saw

that I had a genuineheart for the mission,

that I had a genuine love for this vision

of Jews and Christians coming together.

That it wasn't just a job andit wasn't just helping people.

That's not what the Fellowship does.

The Fellowship is abridge-building organization.

Once he saw I had thisbridge-building calling

in my heart and that oursupporters and followers,

they liked me and theyopened up their arms to me.

I feel so appreciative for that

to the point that one day--- Go figure.

- Yeah, I think it wasone time when my father

called one of our major donors.

He said, "Hi, this is Reverend Eckstein

"calling from Israel."

He said "Reverend Eckstein,

"you're Yael's father." (laughs)

He said, "That was the day I realized

"this was destined from God."

- Well I was the other side.

I became a lawyer and I wentthat route for 10 years,

then God had to intervene.

(Yael laughing)

Well it's good having you,it's good meeting you.

How can people get involvedwith the Fellowship?

- There are lots of different ways.

First, pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

We know that's the foundation of all this.

You could join at

That's where youcould learn about the feasts


latest news on Israel

and how we could be part ofBiblical prophecy together.

You can follow me on Facebookwhere I document my daily life

at Yael Eckstein on Facebook,so those are two good avenues.

- Well, there's another wayyou can also go to

and we'll get you links to all of that.

It's great havin' you.

- Thank you so much, Gordon.- God bless you.

- God bless you.

- Terry, over to you.

- Up next a meth makerwho rose through the ranks

of a prison gang, thenbecame the Chapter President

of the Aryan Brotherhood.

- I liked the power that came with it.

I lived a comfortable life in prison.

I had anything I wanted.

- [Terry] But that comfortablelife came to an end

courtesy of 17 stab wounds

from those who weresupposed to protect him.

This former inmate shareshis story when we come back.

(soft inspirational music)

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- Kevin Smith is builtlike an NFL Lineman.

During his first prison stint,

he relied on his size for protection.

When he was sent back to jail though,

Kevin sought help fromthe Aryan Brotherhood.

After getting stabbed byhis own gang 17 times,

Kevin knew he neededsomeone on the outside

to keep him safe.

- I started to feel invincible,

like I could take on the world.

- [Narrator] Kevin Smith was never one

to walk away from a fight.

At 18 he was 6'7", a coke addict, a dealer

and sitting in jail awaiting sentencing.

It was then Kevin mettwo Christian volunteers

who led him to a decisionto follow Jesus Christ.

- I wanted to know who God was.

I wanted to know all about him.

- [Narrator] But headinginto a four year sentence

at that state pen, Kevin feared his faith

would make him look weak and vulnerable.

- I thought I can't let this happen.

This isn't the place forit; survival was number one.

God was secondary.

I was Kevin Smith.

I wasn't gonna be messed with.

- [Narrator] Again, Kevinused his size to intimidate,

control and to traffic drugs.

But when he was released,

he was ready for a new start without God.

- God takes a backseat.

Honestly, what I thought was that

later, I'll do it later.

I told myself no I'm gonnawalk the straight and narrow.

I don't wanna come back to prison.

I felt like I knew thesteps to take to do that:

to find a good woman, settledown, live a normal life.

- [Narrator] He was workingin a bar when he met Angie,

a Christian who somehowsaw a softer side of Kevin.

- He was like this larger-than-life guy

and I was his sidekick.

- She's always so happy and so positive.

She was perfect in my eyes.

- [Narrator] The two marriedand things were going well.

They opened a towingcompany and had a baby girl.

But three years into the marriage,

the business was strugglingand they were in debt

with a new home, cars, and hospital bills.

- The debt world was crashin' in on us

and I didn't like that feeling.

- [Narrator] Desperate for a quick fix,

Kevin decided to do whathad always worked before:

making and selling meth.

- It was a horrible idea.

We're talkin' about me and I thought

I was smarter than everybody else.

- It was scary, it waslike he was another person.

There was just no reasoning.

It was his way and that was it.

- [Narrator] Beforelong, he was also using

and seeing another woman.

Then one morning just twoweeks before Angie announced

she was pregnant, Kevin walked out on her

and their one year old daughter

and moved in with his girlfriend.

- It felt like the heart was literally

being ripped outta my chest

and watchin' him make this newlife with this other person.

It was horrible, it was horrific.

- I was so stupid and selfish.

- [Narrator] Then in2006, Kevin was arrested

for dealing meth and sentencedto a minimum of 15 years.

For protection, he joinedthe Aryan Brotherhood

and rose quickly threw the ranks

to become Chapter President.

- I liked the power that came with it.

I lived a comfortable life in prison.

I had anything I wanted.

- [Narrator] Anythingexcept a clear conscience.

By then Angie had divorced himand he knew it was his fault.

- I'd basically drug her through hell.

I felt horrible about that.

I wanted to make it right.

- I kept praying for him because again,

he was the kid's father.

I felt like they neededto know who their dad was.

Bottom line, he needed the Lord.

He needed the prayer.

- [Narrator] In 2009,

Kevin would need those prayers even more.

He was attacked and stabbed 17 times

by the Brotherhood when herefused to kill a child molester.

After slipping into a coma,he encountered a power

that brought him to his knees.

- I remember it being black.

There was something inthere, in that blackness

that meant me great harm.

I remember bein' terrified of it.

I remember cowering down.

But then off in adistance, I see this light.

Whatever's in this darknessis afraid of the light.

As the light gets closer and closer,

I can see that it's Angie.

She picks my head up.

She starts strokin' myhair and tellin' me,

"Everything's gonna be okay."

- [Narrator] Kevin came out of the coma

but the vision continued to haunt him.

It wasn't until he receiveda letter from Angie

that it all made sense.

- She had been praying.

She's (mumbles) talkin''bout down on my face

fervently praying for you.

Then a light clicked.

She prayed and it happened.

Here's God showin' up.

In my lowest point, God shows up.

- [Narrator] It was then,Kevin began to understand

that love he felt whenhe was an 18 year old

sitting in a jail cell.

- Love was just a word to me.

It wasn't an action, it wasn't a feeling,

it was just a word.

It wasn't until I reallywrapped my head around

what Jesus did on the cross.

What love meant, what love was all about

and that was a pivotal point in my life.

I remember there being a softening in me.

- [Narrator] When Angie came for a visit,

she saw the change in him immediately.

- He was loving,

sweet and kind.

He kept sayin', "I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

"I never meant for thingsto happen like this."

It's just

how can someone change that drastically?

- [Narrator] Becauseof his physical health

and a change of character,Kevin was released

to home confinementwith his mother in 2011.

Soon after, he and Angie remarried.

Then in December 2012,

he received early paroleand returned home.

Now the man with a heart for God

will share his heart withanyone who will listen.

- I really, really love that

he can minister to other people

through his experiences and

that he's soft now.

He didn't used to be soft like that.

His exterior and hisinterior have both softened.

There's no other explanationfor this than it's God.

- God has taken me, this guy that caused

horrible things to happen to people,

he's usin' it for the good.

- God can take you.

Whatever it is you've done,

he can take you and use it all for good.

He can turn around everything.

What the enemy meant

for bad,

what the enemy meant to harm you,

God can turn it around for good.

All you have to do is surrender to Him.

For Kevin, it took a near death experience

where here he is stabbed 17 times.

He's in a coma.

He's dying.

He has an encounter

and he realizes thatthere's some evil there

and it's waiting for him.

Then this light comesand he puts it together.

It was because somebody prayed.

There was an interventionin his life supernaturally.

He put it all together andsays, "Why am I resisting this?

"Why wouldn't I take this?"

It's a free gift.

It's a free offer where God himself

will become your salvation.

God himself will becomeyour righteousness.

You can trade all your sin.

Isiah says it so clearly.

"Come let us reason together.

"Though your sins be as scarlet,

"yet they will be white as snow."

His mercy endures forever.

It's new every single morning.

All you have to do is take it.

If this is for you,

if this is what you want,

just bow your head with me.

Let's pray a very simple prayer

and let God do all the rest.

What he did for Kevin, he will do for you

if you just ask him.

So let's pray.


That's right, say his name.

Say it out loud; Jesus.

His name means salvation; Jesus.

I come to you

and I ask

that you would be

my salvation,

that you would be my righteousness.

That I would trade all my sin,

all the things thatI've done wrong for you.

So Jesus, come into my heart.

Make me new again.

Give me

the joy of salvation.

Let me feel your presence.

Let me understand your love.

Jesus, if you do this,

I want to follow you

all the days of my life.

Hear my prayer for I pray it in your name.

Father for those who just prayed,

I ask for a baptism in your love.

Fill them to overflowing with joy

knowing that their prayer has been heard

and has been answered today.

Do it for we ask it in Jesus' name,

amen and amen.

If you prayed with me, I'vegot somethin' free for ya.

It's a packet called A NewDay and there's a CD teaching.

What do you do now?

How do you live the Christian life?

There's also a bookletfilled with bible verses.

What do Christians believe?

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Terry, over to you.

- Still ahead, a messagefor the #MeToo era.

One psychologist speaks from experience

about escaping an abusiverelationship, so don't go away.

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- Welcome back to the 700 Club.

Firefighters are working non-stop

to put out the deadly car wildfire

raging in Northern California.

Right now it's responsiblefor burning down

more than 1,000 homes in the Redding area.

As the flames rage, membersof the faith community

are stepping in to help.

Bethel Church, whichis located in Redding,

has been set up as a distribution center.

The humanitarian organizationMercy Chefs is onsite

preparing restaurant-quality meals

for victims, volunteersand first responders.

CBN news interviewed theFounder and President

of Mercy Chefs Gary LeBlanc by Skype.

- We have volunteers from the church

that are working with our chefs today.

We have chefs from Chicagoand just outside of DC.

We have one from Houston

and one from Oklahoma here with us today.

They're working with the teams here

and we're working very hard.

We're puttin' out about 2,000 meals a day.

- Mercy Chefs has the goal offeeding the body and the soul.

Leblanc says, "They come with a message

"that can satisfy people for eternity,

"the gospel of Jesus Christ."

Operation Blessing ishelping provide clean water

to a small mountainsidevillage in Honduras.

Villagers frequently fall ill

because they get sick from getting water

from unsanitary sources.

Operation Blessing was ableto locate a better source

higher up in the mountain.

Teams constructed adurable network of piping

to deliver that water down

into a brand-new massive water reservoir.

Teams also installed faucets

into every single home in that village.

You can learn more about whatOperation Blessing is doin'

by going to its website,

Gordon and Terry are backwith more of today's 700 Club

coming up right after this.

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- Nearly one out of everyfour women in America

has been the victim of domestic violence.

It's an epidemic that can happen to anyone

regardless of race,education, religion or status.

Dr Ramona Probasco knowsthese facts by heart

because she was once a victim herself.

- [Announcer] Ramona Probascomarried Ben at the age of 19.

Their honeymoon days were short-lived

and the starry-eyed teen soonbecame the black-eyed wife.

In her book, Healing Well and Living Free

from an Abusive Relationship,

Dr Ramona shares how she found

true healing after 20 years of violence.

- As you walk out these practical,

not easy but practical steps,

you're becoming your strongest self.

- [Announcer] And offers contagious hope

and concrete steps to getting through

and out of an abusive situation.

- Dr Ramona Probasco is here with us now

and we thank you for sharing your story.

- Thank you for having me, Terry.

- You were only 19 when you marred.

Did you have any clues orsigns before you married

that there was an issue?

- There were indicatorsthat problems were loomy

but I didn't want to believe it;

the red flags I now teach others about.

I blew right past them.

- Well hindsight's always 20/20 too.

From a grace standpoint,

I think you can applythat to almost anything.

When you had problems in the marriage,

you wound up staying in therelationship for 20 years.

What were some of the reasons?

That's not just you, that's pretty common

in relationships, why?

- When most people say Ido, they don't mean I don't.

When I got married, I got married forever

and I really believed it wasgonna be my happily ever after.

The physical violence startedthree years into the marriage.

But my confusion about faith and God

and what's God's perspectiveis on matters like this,

I really had to address a lottafaulty thinking that I had.

I really believed that if Iprayed more, I believed more.

Even one particular story,

I got up in the middle of the night

because I had read how Samuelhad anointed Saul with oil

and I thought there's somethingto this anointing with oil.

When Ben was sleeping, I gotup in the middle of the night

and I went to our kitchen pantry.

I got the oil down, I justdabbed a little bit on my finger.

I went back into our room,

I put a little cross on hisshoulder and I prayed fervently.

I was like, "Lord, I want a miracle.

"I want this marriage to be saved.

"I want this to stop inmy life and in his life."

What I realized was themiracle that I was praying for

was actually gonna take place in me.

- That's so hard to grab hold of

when you're in the middleof that situation, I think.

In your book, Healing Well and Living Free

from an Abusive Relationship,

you say that one of the things

that's so important for avictim is to call it what it is.

We don't do that.- That's right.

When I say until we call it what it is,

we're gonna call it what it's not.

Basically what I mean by that is

often people will describeabuse as a marital problem

or normal-couple conflict

or he or she just has a bad temper.

It's not about that.

We all get angry, we all don't abuse.

- You also say, I thoughtthis was so interesting

that actually abusivebehavior that is violent

or even aggressive inits tone, isn't anger.

- Right, exactly.

Because you're gonna be seeing anger often

on the person's continenceor in their behavior,

but it's not about anger.

Abuse is about a mindset.

Primarily, lack of empathy and entitlement

is what drives this mindset.

Again, because we all getangry but we don't abuse it.

Abuse is a choice.

- You say also there are three stages

both people go through,the abuser and the victim.

Talk about that a little.

- I think what you're referring to

is my subtitle From Victimto Survivor to Overcomer.

That's in reference to the person

who's on the recipient end of abuse.

I use the example of a burning house.

In the metaphor I like to use is

a person is in a burning house.

The victim will see the flames,

feel the heat, smell the smoke,

but they'll stay in the house.

A survivor will be in that same house

and they will see theflames, feel the heat,

smell the smoke, but they'll leave.

An overcomer in that samehouse will see the flames,

feel the heat, smell thesmoke, but they'll leave.

But after they leave,they'll build a new house

and they'll invite othersto come in and enjoy it.

- What was the breakingpoint for you, Ramona?

What was the thing that made you say

I can't do this anymore?

- In the introduction of my book,

I entitle it Something Broke Inside Me.

It was the incident when Ben attacked me.

We were getting ready for anevent we were gonna speak at

and he was runningbehind, which was typical.

I was getting nervous.

I happened to be sitting on the toilet.

He came up, he grabbed my head

and he drove his thumbsinto my eye sockets.

At that moment, something snapped inside.

A couple days later, he approached me.

He wanted to make up andI just said "I can't."

He said "Why not?"

I said "I just can't come back this time."

I was referring to at thatpoint emotionally speaking.

He said "Why?"

I said "Because somethingbroke inside me."

That's when I realizedthat I could no longer.

The fight to try to save the marriage,

to help him change was over.

- There's an aftermathwhen you make the decision

to leave even.

It's not just all of a sudden,

there's great relief and joy.

Talk a little about that process.

- That's right, there'sgrief because it's a loss.

We experience...


I describe divorce as adeath with no body to bury

and no one brings a covered dish over.

It's a lonely journey for many.

You're gonna walk through grief,

a person who's come throughthis type of trauma.

You need to heal from grief.

- It takes time.- It takes time.

But doing somethingintentional with that time,

not just allowing time to pass.

Time passing doesn't heal us,

doing something intentional to heal will.

- One of the intentionalthings you talk about

that's so key in your book is forgiveness.

Because to be set free,

you really have to engagein that process, don't you?

- You do.

I believe to heal well,

forgiveness is an essential part of that.

However, I also knowthat the Holy Spirit's

been doin' his job for a long long time.

It's not up to me to tell someone

you must forgive or you should forgive.

I believe it's a personal decision.

But if we wait to forgive,

most of us will never feel like it.

- So again, intentional.- Right,

it's an act of our will.

When I decided that night,I can clearly remember.

When I decided to forgive Ben,

it was, like I said, an act of my will,

but it took me years to work through it.

Frankly, the most difficultperson to forgive was myself.

- That's probably thelast person you forgive.

- It was the last person, yes.

- So much wonderful and rich information.

This is a huge problem in our culture.

- It is.- A really huge problem.

Dr Ramona Probasco, we thankyou for sharing your story.

For more, get her book.

It's called Healing Well and Living Free

from an Abusive Relationship.

It's in stores nationwide.

Whether you are having this experience

in your own life or you knowsomeone who is, get help.

Call our Prayer Center.

Our number's toll free,it's 1-800=700-7000

and get the book, it'sfull of rich information.

Thank you, Ramona.- Thank you for having me.

- It's so good to have you here.

- I appreciate it.

- Well coming up, we're gonna be

answering your email questions.

So don't go away, we'll be back.

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- [Gordon] Yeah, are youbuilding a better gut?

- I hope so.

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I'd like to build less of a gut. (laughs)

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Well we've got some timefor some email questions

and you got the first one.

- I do.

This is Karla, Gordon, who says,

"I have a family member who has a child

"who's facing life in a wheelchair.

"I am on my face before God for him.

"Now the rage and disappointmentis settling into his heart.

"It's scary.

"I beg God for a miracle.

"How do I keep all of usfrom getting discouraged?"

- Karla, that's a question for the ages.

It's one of those that'sas old as the Book of Job.

Why do bad things happen to good people?

You can stare at thatquestion for a long time

and you can have avariety of answers to it.

But when someone youlove is in a wheelchair,

what do you do with that?

Where do you go with that?

I believe in miracles.

I've seen miracles.

I've seen people get outtawheelchairs and walk.

People that the doctorshad given up on hope,

I've seen it with my own eyes.

At the same time, I toohave a family member

who's in a wheelchair.

We're praying, we're believing,

but they're still in that wheelchair.

What do you do with that?

Where do you go with those emotions?

I would encourage youand I would encourage

this wonderful childgo ahead and grieve it.

Don't push those emotions away.

Grieve the loss, go through those stages.

But realize, there is ahope and there is a future.

There will be a day whetherit's on Earth or in Heaven,

where you will walk again.

Let that hope encourage you,that's where you find it.

You look to Jesus.

He is the author andfinisher of your faith.

He is also your hope.

There is wonderful hopein the resurrection.

- Okay, this is Samantha who says,

"I lost someone that I loved

"and it seems like itwasn't their time to go.

"Why would God take someoneearlier than expected?"

- Samantha, you may be blaming God

for something he didn't do

when people are takenearlier than expected.

Here's somethin' from the Bible.

You look at Uriah.

Uriah doesn't get much.

You don't hear too manysermons about Uriah.

Uriah was the husband of Bathsheba.

Lotta talk about David andBathsheba, not much about Uriah.

Uriah was killed in battleintentionally by David.

He ordered his generalsto put Uriah in the front

and then withdraw knowingthat he would be killed.

Now here's the question,did God intend that?

I think the answer is clearly no

and clearly no from what theprophet Nathan said to David.

Deaths happen that aren't God's fault.

You look at free will,how does free will reign?

That seems to be the governing principle

and with that free will,lots of things can happen

from murder to accidents, untimely death.

I would encourage youdon't blame God for that.

Blame the accident,blame something untimely,

blame the disease and thenhope for the resurrection.

Here's words from Nehemiah for ya.

"Do not sorrow, for the joyof the Lord is your strength."

For Terry, for me, for allof us here, God bless ya.

We'll see ya again next week.

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