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The 700 Club - August 9, 2018

He’s the backup quarterback that led the Philadelphia Eagles to Super Bowl glory. Nick Foles looks back at his MVP performance and shares why winning isn’t everything. Read Transcript

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- [Announcer] The followingprogram is sponsored by CBN.

- [Amber] Coming up,the backup quarterback

who led the Philadelphia Eagles

to Super Bowl glory.(crowd cheers)

- [Nick] God always has a plan.

You just gotta trust it.

- [Amber] Nick Foles looksback at his MVP performance.

- We'll see what the scoreboard says.

No matter what, I just wanna play

without fear, and that's a win.

- [Amber] And shares whywinning isn't everything.

- This isn't gonna fulfill me.

I've already beenfulfilled because of that.

- [Amber] On today's 700 Club.

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- Well, welcome, folks, tothis edition of The 700 Club.

Well, it seems to be a never ending story.

The terror group known as Hamas

talks peace to the whole world

while it continues to wage war on Israel.

More than 150 rockets

soared across the borderjust on Wednesday,

sending Israelis to the hospital

and thousands more into bomb shelters.

- Israel is striking back,

taking out more than 100Hamas strongholds in Gaza.

As John Waage explains, this all comes

after weeks of negotiationsfor a long-term ceasefire.

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(loud explosion)(crowd screams)

- In the streets of Sderot,

panic once again as the sirens signal

incoming rockets from Gaza.

Hamas says the barrage is retaliation

for Israel's earlierkilling of two Hamas snipers

who were said to be in training

and not firing at Israeli troops.

The terror group's response sent

stressed out Israelisheading for shelters,

and Israel's militarypounded Hamas targets

in the Gaza Strip withstrike after strike.

This wave of bombardment comes after

days of debate here in Jerusalem

about whether Israel should agree to

a five-year Egyptian brokeredceasefire with Hamas.

Now with roads andbeaches and summer camps

closing in southern Israel,

and weary residents sick of sirens,

the talk has turned to military strategy.

At least one Knessetmember, a retired colonel,

is calling for the headsof the Hamas leadership.

And U.S. Middle EastNegotiator Jason Greenblatt

tweeted, another night of terror

and families huddling in fearas Israel defends itself.

This is the Hamas regime's choice.

Hamas is subjecting its people

to the terrifying conditions of war again.

Meanwhile, U.N. leaders warn that

Gaza residents face impending disaster

with severe fuel shortagesalready plaguing the city.

But with more than 100,000Israelis under fire,

the fuel problem may not be Gaza's

greatest worry in the days ahead.

John Waage, CBN News, Jerusalem.

- Well, it was amazing when the Israelis,

who had control of the Gaza Strip,

pulled out of it insupposedly a peace effort.

It was ill considered,

and it looks like every time

they make an overture of peace

Hamas or one of those radical groups

comes in to steal the peace away.

Well, that's what's happening and

they control that part ofthe Palestinian Authority,

and the Palestinian Authority really

has no control over Gaza.

It's a shame.

It really is a shame, butthat's what's going on.

In other news, we've toldyou how cyber attacks

could leave millionsscrambling in the dark.

Energy Secretary Rick Perry tells CBN News

his number one priority

is protecting the power grid.

Efrem Graham has morefrom our CBN News room.

Here's Efrem.

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- Well, Pat, frombanking to transportation

to communications, major industries

are connected by the internet.

That technology can pose a grave threat

to our national security.

In an exclusive interviewwith the Energy Secretary,

he tells CBN's Jenna Browder

some of the best minds in America

are working to protectAmerica against cyber attacks.

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- There's perhaps no more serious threat

to the United States than a crippling

cyber attack on the country's power grid,

just ask Secretary of Energy Rick Perry.

It's what he says he and his department

are largely focused on.

How vulnerable is theUnited States power grid

from a major cyber attack?

- It's of great concern because

we're not where we were 10 years ago.

This is a completelydifferent world we live in

from the standpoint ofhow it's interconnected.

- [Jenna] Perry says onefactor is old infrastructure,

and it's not actually all bad.

- In one way, that kind of protects it

because you've got someold technology in there,

you know, some old analog equipment.

On the other hand, all the digital,

the new types of

technology that's there isvulnerable to a cyber attack.

- [Jenna] Another factor.

- The Russians havesome thuggish behavior.

There's not any doubt about that.

- [Jenna] Russia and other countries

like Iran and North Korea and China

looking to infiltrate everything

from our power plants to elections.

In the case of Russia.

- So I think we'refinding the right balance

between if you cannot be a

citizen of the world andact in an appropriate way,

there's gonna be some real punishments.

But if you do, then we can find

some ways to work together,to trade together,

to help each other.

- When it comes to North Korea,

how much of a role isthe Department of Energy

playing in talks with Kim Jong-un

and in denuclearization?

- I think the President is spot on.

I think he's very courageous to

step forward and carryon these conversations

and carry on this dialogue.

- [Jenna] And if the Administrationcan achieve that goal,

Perry says the Department of Energy

will play a key role becauseof its technical expertise.

- If the President and Secretary Pompeo

and others are successful in getting

North Korea to agree to denuclearize,

the Department of Energy will play

a substantial role in theverification side of it,

of the deconstructingof any of the weapons

and in the decommissioningand disposal of as well.

- If there's a silver lining

to the threat our power grid faces,

Secretary Perry says it's this.

- We're vulnerable,

but every place in theworld is vulnerable.

The good news is that our national labs,

some of the smartest menand women in the world,

are working on ways to defend,

working on ways to both defensively

and offensively dealwith these individuals

who would attack our grid.

- [Jenna] In Washington,Jenna Browder, CBN News.

- And, Pat, you've warned of this danger

for quite some time.

- A whole lot about it.

You know, I appreciatewhat Secretary Perry

was saying but I sure wish he would said,

here's one, two, three,four what we're gonna do,

not we've got good minds studying it.

We've studied it long enough.

The threat is absolutely real,

and you've got, again, a thermonuclear

blast at about 1,500,

2,000 feet in the heartland of America

would cripple the gridall across this nation.

That's number one.

A solar flare, and they're not unheard of,

suddenly you've got a blast

from the sun of solarenergy that comes out,

and that could knock our grid out.

And when that happens, I'm talking about

it's tragedy and millionsof people will die.

I don't wanna have peoplestudying it anymore.

I want 'em to fix it.

And I think the thing we need to do

is a major, major governmental thrust

to make sure that thisgrid is safe and hardened.

And we've gotta get allthose nodes taken care of,

and if some of 'em are cyber and some are

the old-fashioned, less interesting,

and some of 'em are newand on the internet,

well, that's good too but we've gotta

fix 'em so they all work together.

It is a crisis that'sgot to be dealt with,

and the money involved is minuscule

compared to the damage than can be done

with one of these cyber attacks.

Well, Efrem, what you got?

- Pat, President Trump's attorneys

are saying no to an interview

with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Mueller wanted an in-person interview

covering several topics, including

possible obstruction of justice.

The President's team willnot accept those terms,

saying they'll take written questions

but probably won't answer any

about obstruction of justice.

Now Mueller can make a counter offer

or try to force the President to testify.

The President's attorney says

that would be unprecedented.

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- [Rudy] So long ashe's making his decision

voluntarily and notsubmitting to a subpoena,

then that's not inconsistent

with what other presidents did.

There's no question the President

would resist any kind of an attempt

to force him to testify.

- Rudy Giuliani also repeated his calls

for Mueller to wrap thisRussia investigation,

saying there should be areport by September 1st, Pat.

- Well, Rudy's also said that the scandal

is going to be the SpecialProsecutor and his team

and the fact that they didn'tgo after Hillary Clinton.

There's one fact that we've learned

just recently is that the FBI

notified Senator Feinstein that she had a

Chinese agent working in her staff,

and she immediatelydismissed this individual.

They should've done the same thing

for President Trump, but they didn't.

Yet, they have brought charges against

some of these people, but they've said

they didn't notify the candidate

that he had suspiciouspeople working with him,

and if there was anything.

it looks like the only charge they've got

is this Christopher Steele dossier

that was paid for by the Democrats.

And the whole thing has been a fraud

from the beginning, and it's said that

the American people are going to be

absolutely horrifiedwhen all this comes out.

But in the meantime, Mueller keeps

dragging, dragging, dragging, dragging.

I had Alan Dershowitz on the other day,

and we were talking aboutthe Whitey Bulger matter,

when he, Dersh, I mean when the

so-called Special Prosecutor was then

running the FBI office at Boston.

Bulger was hiding out in plain sight

and the FBI couldn't catch him.

It was just ridiculous.

So these people are not the sharp

watchdogs of our safetythat they purport to be,

and the FBI has had a terrible stain

on its reputation because of the

misconduct of people like Peter Strzok

and Lisa Page and others like that.

It's just horrible to see it happening.

But the fact that he might try to,

I don't know if they wanna go to war

with the President on this one

to force him to testify because he.

(clears throat) What isobstruction of justice?

(coughs) The leading legal experts say

that a president in a fulfillment of

his constitutionalmandated responsibilities

cannot be held guilty of,quote, obstructing justice.

You just cannot obstruct justice

when you're following outyour constitutional duties.

So, in any event, I hope this thing,

it's weighing on all of us.

It needs to be wrapped up.

We've had enough of it.

It's cost a lot of money,

and it's not doinganybody any good at all.

It really isn't.

They aren't.

Alan Dershowitz said so clearly

some years ago and he said it again,

we should've had a commissionto study this matter.

If there is Russian influence,

then it oughta be dealt with

on a dispassionate level by

blue ribbon commission,not by some prosecutor.

All right, Efrem, what's next?

- Pat, despite high levelnegotiations between

Turkish and U.S. officialsin Washington Wednesday,

American pastor Andrew Brunson remains

under house arrest in Turkey.

He faces another hearing on espionage

related charges in October.

Many call the proceedingsa kangaroo court,

and until now Brunson supporters

have had no idea what's happening.

CBN's Jennifer Wishon brings us

this firsthand accountfrom inside the courtroom.

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- A courtroom designed to make

Pastor Brunson feel defeated,

bogus witnesses bribed by the prosecution,

and the power of forgiveness.

An eyewitness takes us inside

Pastor Brunson's persecution in Turkey.

- The court used to belike a basketball court

or some sort of sports court

that has been turned into a courtroom

right next to a very large prison.

And way up front there arethree judges in a raised dais,

and very low is Pastor Andrew Brunson.

Witnesses for the prosecution

and Pastor Brunson's lawyer,

there are over 500 chairs between him

and the area where observers like me

and his wife are allowed to seat.

- [Jenna] Kristine Arriagaof the U.S. Commission

on International Religious Liberty

attended Pastor Brunson'smost recent hearing.

Seated beside his wife Noreen,

she watched in disbelief.

- Because Pastor Brunson cannot see

very well from far away,

any time he looks back towards his wife,

she stands up and putsher hand over her heart

so he knows he's not alone.

Pastor Brunson sat there while he heard

former church members, peopleprobably that he baptized,

people that he had teawith, testify against him.

And the judge at one point turned to him

around noontime and asked Andrew Brunson

to speak for himself, and he said,

"My faith teaches me to forgive,

"so I forgive those whojust testified against me."

There was a chill in the room.

I know his wife, who'sgraceful and extremely strong,

probably found that tobe a natural answer,

but I was stunned and movedto tears when he said that.

- Why would his church members,

people that he was intimate with,

testify against him?

- I imagine these people were under

tremendous pressure to keep their jobs

or feed their families.

We don't know what kind ofthreats they were under.

- [Jenna] Brunson has been transferred

from prison to house arrest,

but Arriaga fears that puts him at risk.

- But he's in a terriblydangerous situation

because the Brunsons are portrayed

in the Turkish press as people who are

against the state of Turkey,

and I have great fears there's gonna be

an increase of incitementto violence against him,

and no one will be able to stop someone,

a mob, that tries to go and kill him.

- [Jenna] Armed with sanctionsand the power to withhold

F-35 fighter jets Turkeywants to purchase,

U.S. officials from theWhite House to Congress

continue to pressure Turkey's President,

Recep Erdogan, to release Brunson.

His next hearing is October 12th.

Jennifer Wishon, CBN News.

- An amazing account, Pat.

- The Turks are our strong allies.

They are members of NATO but

Erdogan is clearly trying to move Turkey

into a Islamic

dictatorship, a theocracy.

And this thing he talked about,

the clash between

the mosque and the church and so forth,

he really wants to fight with Christians.

Brunson had a little church, I think,

in North Carolina, alittle evangelical church,

like Baptist or something like that.

He had a small little church in,

I think it was at Izmir, Turkey.

And he wasn't doinganything to hurt anybody,

and to claim that he's somehow

an enemy of the state is just outrageous.

In Turkey, they supposedlyhave religious freedom,

and we've had a lot of people in Turkey.

We have a very robust program in Turkey,

and thousands of thosepeople have come to the Lord.

They're good people.

But this Erdogan is

not one of the people we wanna support.

And we put sanctions already.

President Trump has sanctioned

a couple of his officials,

and it looks like more is coming.

Withholding, we certainly shouldn't

have them doing F-35 high powered

jets to build up their military because

they wanna use 'em against Israel.

But, again, read the Bookof Ezekiel chapter 38,

and you'll find somebodyin there called Gomer.

Well, what is Gomer?

Well, that is Turkey.

And if you read Revelation,

the churches of Revelation

all the way through, Thyatira and Laodicea

and all those churches in Revelation,

they're all in Turkey,every single one of 'em.

Turkey is a, you know, they call it

the churches of Asia, butAsia Minor was Turkey,

and it's very prominent in the Bible.

And from what I read it's going to be

part of a coalition against Israel.

So it's time for us to come to Tur,

put the screws to Turkey right now.

But they have a major air base,

the Incirlik Air Base in Turkey,

and it's a very importanttransit point for our troops

when we're doing activitiesin the Middle East,

and Turkey can withhold permission for us,

our planes to takeoff and land.

It's a bad situation thatwe're in with Turkey,

and we need to do deal with Erdogan

'cause he is a bad actor, Terry.

- Well, coming up a rare glimpse of

the hidden retreat of morethan a dozen U.S. Presidents.

- On Friday afternoons, we would get

on the helicopter on thesouth lawn of the White House.

The President would wave to everybody,

and then disappearessentially for 48 hours.

- [Terry] One formerpresidential Press Secretary

reveals what went on at Camp David

during the Reagan years.

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- Well, it's named afterPresident Eisenhower's grandson.

It's the hidden getawaywhere American Presidents

have found rest andrefreshment for decades.

It's called Camp David.

It serves our Commanders-in-Chief

as both a weekend retreat

and important business center.

As CBN's Amber Strong found out,

the hidden cabin in the Maryland mountains

can also be much more.

Watch this.(dramatic beats)

- [Amber] The elusive andsomewhat mysterious Camp David

(camera clicking)

has played double-duty for more than

a dozen U.S. Presidents.

From hosting foreigndignitaries in a relaxed setting

to serving as nerve centerfor major policy decisions,

and for former Reagan Press Secretary

Mark Weinberg, a home away from home.

- On Friday afternoons, we would get on

the helicopter on the southlawn of the White House.

The President would wave to everybody

and then disappearessentially for 48 hours.

- In his book "MovieNights with the Reagans,"

Weinberg fondly recalls those

weekend getaways at Camp David.

(dramatic music)- Abandon ship!

Open all deck hatches!

- [Amber] An actorhimself, those movie nights

at Aspen Lodge allowed the President

to relive his years on the silver screen.

The Reagans viewed hundreds of films

during their time at Camp David,

from Guess Who's Coming toDinner to Crocodile Dundee.

(upbeat music)- That's not a knife.

That's a knife.

- [Amber] Sometimes the art imitated life

like the aftermath of Rocky IV.

- And this was at the time that,

you know, the Cold Warwas really heating up,

to use a phrase, so itdid have an influence.

And at one point theRussians, the Soviets,

told the Americans, complained to

American diplomats about Rocky IV.

They said you shouldn't show that.

That's not a good movie to show.

The President told us this.

The American diplomat said to the Soviets,

"We don't have anything to do with that.

"In our country, the government

"doesn't control the movies."

And they couldn't understand that.

- [Amber] Sometimes themovies influenced platforms.

Case in point, the 1980 film 9 to 5.

- Because there was a scene with

Dolly Parton, and JaneFonda, and I believe

Lily Tomlin, smoking marijuana.

And you have to remember,this was the 80s.

It was illegal back then.

And this movie glamorized it,

and he thought that was a terrible message

to send to young people.

And Mrs. Reagan was so bothered by it

that she called themout on it in a speech.

- [Amber] That iconic scene pushed

the first lady furtherinto her anti-drug agenda,

and those famous three words.

- Just say no.

- [Amber] Weinberg saysdespite the media's

narrative of a cold first lady,

those moments gave him a glimpse

into the relationshipbetween Nancy and her Ronny.

- She was very warm and welcoming.

She took an interest in people.

She listened when you were in the room.

She was protective of her husband,

as well she should've been.

- [Amber] While theReagans loved their privacy

that didn't stop the press from

going to great lengths to catch

a glimpse of the President.

- They took the lens that theyused for the Space Shuttle,

the biggest lens that CBS owned.

They brought them out there so they

could get the President

riding on this horse,(Amber laughs)

this wavy figure in the heat.

And he knew it, and he said,

"I'm gonna have some fun with them."

And he did this,

and pretended to fall off the horse.

- [Amber] Weinberg fondly recalls

Reagan's famous sense of humor,

even with the media.

- For our friends in the press,

who place a high premium on accuracy,

let me say I did not actually hear

George Washington say that.(crowd laughs)

- [Amber] While Mrs.Reagan usually decided

which film to review, Mr. Reagan found

a particular love of an extraterrestrial

and his best friend Elliot.

- E.T. was a movie thattouched both of their hearts.

They had tears in their eyes at the end.

It was a very wonderful story,

a fantastic story in theliteral sense of the word.

And those kinds of themes of letting

your imagination go wherever it could,

and believing in the impossible,

and wondering what was out there,

and wondering what the future could be,

those were very Reaganesque themes.

- Even after the credits rolled

on the Reagans' time in the White House,

those weekend getaways forged a friendship

that would last until the end.

- And I told him that I was considering

leaving the staff after having been there

10 years, that it wastime for me to move on,

and he said, "Well, I understand.

"You're a young man.

"I expect you to do that.

"And, by the way, Mark, I'mnot gonna be here forever."

Well, I knew what he meant,

but I didn't want to acknowledge that.

- [Amber] Still, Weinbergsays Reagan was at peace

with this life and the next.

- He said, "Mark, it's okay.

"I'm not afraid of that,

"and, in fact, I look forward to it."

Because he knew thatGod had a plan for him

and that he lived a life on earth

and would be reunited with people after.

And he was very groundedbecause of his faith.

- [Amber] Amber Strong,CBN News, Washington.

- I tell ya, I miss Ronald Reagan.

He had a wonderful sense of humor.

You know, I heard one speech that he made

and I told a guy that worked for me.

I said, look, I wannahire that speech writer.

He's just so good.

It's so funny what thePresident had to say.

And he checked and he said,

"The President wroteall that stuff himself."

It was just hilarious.

I mean, he was a tremendous person,

and I had the chances to interact with him

on several occasions and I just miss him.

He was so good for America.

- Well, he made great impact in many ways

during his tenure in the White House.

- He did.- Today, both parties,

both sides of the aisle,

commend him as a great leader,

a wonderful man.- Well, you know

when he was running, though,

they thought here thisHollywood actor, he's crazy.

There's no way.

And Paul Laxalt told the stuff

that they said about him

was so vicious that they didn't

let him even see some of the papers.

It was just horrible.

And what they do now to Trump was

they did in spades with Ronald Reagan.

But when it was finished,

he was a magnificent leader.

Yes, he was an actor, but at the same time

he was just a wonderful person.

And I, as I say, I personally miss him.

There was something that happened

in America when he was President,

and I think the Republicanparty ever since

has tried to live up to that Reaganesque

aura of feeling and, boy, this

rancor and animosity that exists

in our nation today isjust absolutely awful.

And I don't think that that was the case.

Well, what would you do, folks,

if you were the MVP,

the most valuable playerin the Super Bowl and.

- Well, up next, the Super Bowl MVP

who's now a backup quarterback.

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- [Nick] That's justsorta how the sport is.

It's a humbling sport.

There's times I struggle.

I'm getting the heart ready to

go back to Philly to be a backup.

- Nick Foles talks candidly about his

upcoming season withthe Philadelphia Eagles,

and that's coming up after this.

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Well, this is hard to believe.

The NFL preseason beginstonight for 22 teams,

including the Super BowlChampion Philadelphia Eagles,

who will host the Pittsburgh Steelers.

For the Eagles, CarsonWentz is gonna return

from last season's kneeinjury as the quarterback,

and that sends Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles

to the bench as backup,

a first in Super Bowl history.

Nick is also the author of a new book.

It's called "Believe It."

And recently he spokewith our Tom Buehring

about what he learned duringhis championship journey.

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- The NFL career of Nick Foles

has become a storied passage,

from starter to backup

to the most recent Super Bowl MVP.

Only fitting that onewho's passed through,

been passed over, andhas now brought the pass

carries the title ofchampionship quarterback.

Pretty intense during Super Bowl week.

What was your prayer?

- The two weeks leading up to it

are some of the mostintense weeks of football

I've ever been a part of,

just from a distraction standpoint,

from a preparation standpoint.

I don't wanna pray for victory.

I don't wanna put that on a pedestal.

And then if we are able to win,

you know, that you keep me humble.

We'll see what the scoreboard says.

No matter what, I just wanna play

without fear, and that's a win.

- You still wowed by the 2017 season?

- (chuckles) Yeah, absolutely.

Having the opportunity to be a part

of a great team and win a Super Bowl

doesn't seem real but you'reholding a Super Bowl ring,

but it's like, you know,it's not everything.

I'm not wearing it.

I actually forgot my wedding ring today.

I was up so early.

I do have a wedding ring.

- You're gonna hear about it real quick.

(Tom laughs)- Oh, I know, I know.

- Achievement for people is everything.

There's work that goes into it,

and it's a reward.

Is it everything it's cracked up to be?

- It is not.

When you achieve something

and you go after somethingand be successful,

is it solely for yourself?

I mean, you're gonna be so empty

at the end of the journey.

You've heard many people win awards

or even win the Super Bowl that say

I feel like there shouldbe more, but there's not.

And I'm holding my daughter,

then I go, where's the trophy?

I'm just thinking my greatest achievement

was giving my life to Christ,

my relationship with Christ.

This isn't gonna fulfill me.

I've already beenfulfilled because of that.

- [Tom] You were forewarned(gentle music)

by your first Eagles coach.

Hey, you come to Philly thick-skinned,

and you better know who you are.

- You know, I think in Philly

it was the most unique fan base

I have ever been a part of, ever seen,

and the reason is is'cause it's not a fan base.

It's more of a family.

When Andy Reid said that to me,

he basically said this cityhas torn grown men apart.

The Eagles fans want us togo out there and play well.

We wanna play well.

Though 2017 and the Super Bowl were

something that we'll always remember,

that we'll always be grateful for

and it'll live forever inPhiladelphia Eagle history,

you know, life goes on.

And that's just sorta how the sport is.

It's a humbling sport.

- Rocky steps and statue inthe very city you play in.

Do you identify with that underdog?

- I think the whole city does.

I think that's why the whole story

resonated so well with Philly.

It's an underdog city.

A lot of the players on ourteam are underdog players,

but I think that, you know,

Rocky's always been the theme of the city,

that though you get knockeddown, you're not down.

You just keep getting back up.

You keep fighting,grinding, throwing punches,

and eventually you'regonna start landing 'em,

and we landed the final punch.

- Super Bowl MVP Quarterback

to backup quarterback.

How do you separateyourself from the labels

to your own personalidentity of who you are?

- It took going through the struggles,

going through the failures,

going through SaintLouis, to experience that.

It sorta relinquishedthe idol of football,

and I wasn't holding onto it anymore.

I wasn't holding on to the NFL.

If you get to the top and you're alone,

it's a lonely place.

And, you know, life's meantto be lived in fellowship,

to be lived in one another.

For me, you know, arelationship with Christ,

that's a relationship.

It's not religion.

It's not rules.

It's living in the moment,

and you're just grateful for it.

- [Tom] What's most self-destructiveabout accomplishment?

- The pride that comes along with it,

and I'm just as guilty as everyone.

You know, there's times where everyone's

complimenting you,patting you on the back,

and you sorta forget your roots.

What am I rooted in?

Well, I know everymorning I get in the Word.

I read devotionals, I pray.

And there's times where all of a sudden

you get pulled in every which direction

where it starts becoming more about you

naturally because you'renot humbling yourself

by staying in the Word

and getting your perspective straight.

- They see you then enter into

this season with Carson Wentz returning

and you going into a backup role.

When do you find yourself being

most challenged with humility in that?

- I think the biggestchallenge is off season

with going through that was honestly

a month after the Super Bowl when

the Eagles came out and basically

put me on the trade box, said, hey,

if you guys offer up two first round picks

we'll be open to trading Nick.

And then you think, all right, well,

all right, I can be a starter.

I got proven that.

And then you get sorta distracted,

but that's where staying rooted in Christ,

going through it, trustinghim, but struggling.

There's times I struggle.

And then just being ready, you know,

getting the heart ready to go back

to Philly to be a backup.

- What does weakness bring Nick Foles?

- I think in society strengthis the most appealing thing.

I think it always has been.

Showing weakness hasalways been frowned upon,

but is that sharing your struggles?

And most people would say,yeah, that's weakness.

To me, that's actually strength

because it takes youbeing sure of yourself,

who you are, to be able to share

what's really going on inside you.

I think that's why thisbook was so purposeful,

you know, what Toriand I have gone through

with her illness, withpostural orthostatic

tachycardia syndrome,every day she continues

to excel to get better.

But we've grown so muchcloser to each other.

We've grown closer to God.

And there's been so many blessings

that have happened out of it.

God always has a plan.

You just gotta trust it.

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- Boy, he always does have a plan.

We were created withintention and purpose,

and when we walk in itit makes a difference.

Nick Foles' book, "Believe It,"

well worth the read.

Well, still ahead, thereal life Captain America.

This unlikely hero tells how he found

the courage and the faith to walk

Ferguson, Missouri's mob infested streets

without his bulletproof vest.

Captain Ron Johnson joins us live,

and that's later on today's 700 Club.

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- And welcome back to The 700 Club.

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elder board at WillowCreek Church has resigned.

This month's long fallout at

the Chicago area megachurch began in April

after founder Bill Hybels resigned

when women within his church accused him

of repeated sexualmisconduct and harassment.

This week both lead pastors,

Steve Carter and Heather Larson, resigned

saying the church needs new leadership.

The rest of the board announced

they'll be stepping downby the end of the year.

The Trump Administration is imposing

new sanctions on Russia because

it believes Russia used a nerve agent

to poison two people in Britain.

The State Department says it determined

a chemical weapon was used illegally

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with a military-grade nerve agent.

The Kremlin has deniedit was behind the attack

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Pat and Terry are back withmuch more of today's 700 Club.

It's coming up right after this.

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- Four years ago today, August 9th,

Ferguson, Missouri became a city

rife with riots that lasted for 13 days.

Out of that chaos rose a hero

who bridged the dividebetween black and blue

by literally walking across it.

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- [Reporter] Captain RonJohnson, a 31-year veteran

of the Missouri Highway Patrol

became an unlikely hero in 2014,

five days after the fatalshooting of Michael Brown.

As riots ignited throughoutthe city of Ferguson,

Captain Ron was appointed by the governor

with a seemingly impossible task

of restoring peacebetween an angry community

and the local police.

In his memoir "13 Days in Ferguson,"

Captain Ron recalls the turbulent

days and nights he encountered

while helping to stabilizethe city of Ferguson

and how his faith sustainedhim through it all.

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- To the 700 Club, Captain Ron Johnson.

It's great to have you here, Ron.

- Great to be here, it's an honor.

- You know, this was, reading your book

just took me back there like that.

It's been four years,

but that was such an unexpectedoccurrence in every way,

in what happened between Michael Brown,

the young man who was shot,

and the reaction that happened

after that in Middle America.

Tell me what that waslike for you at that time

as you came upon this.

- I couldn't believe it.

It seemed like it wassomething out of a bad dream,

that this could not be happening in

my community or in our country.

- Yeah, and then it seemed,

as you wrote in the book,

each day, instead of waning, it escalated.

Were you surprised by that?

At some point, did you think it

was just going to kind of die down

and then you'd have to pickup the pieces and go on?

- No, I think the firstday that I walked down

in the streets of Ferguson, I knew.

I said there was something that

I had never seen before,

and I looked up to God and I said,

how are we going to make it through this?

- What was so shocking, I think,

for you was that you didn't hear

until you were in the middleof a press conference,

not your press conference,it was the governor's,

that you were gonna putin charge of all of this.

That had to be shocking.

I mean, tell me what you were feeling

at that moment as you hear him say,

"And I'm gonna give the leadership of

"all of this to Captain Ron Johnson."

- Well, the first thing that came to mind

was, God, why me?

- Yeah (laughs), I thinkwe all would've said that.

But then what, then what?

- But then after I found out,

and after I walked andwent back to Ferguson

and got on the streets,

I didn't ask God anymore, why me,

because it didn't matter why me.

But I was glad that it was me.

And I looked at it as an opportunity

and a humbling moment.

- But the press just landed on you

right after that announcement was made

and wanted to know very directly

what are you gonna do that's gonna be

any different thanwhat's been done so far.

How did you decide what to do?

- Well, initially they said,

what is your plan?

And I wanted to say,well, I just found out

30 minutes ago that Iwas gonna be in charge.

- [Terry] No mercy. (laughs)

- [Ron] But I said I'ddo something different.

And so then after I leftthat press conference,

I knew that I neededto go back to Ferguson

and walk the streets and hear the voices

and see the faces tounderstand what I needed to do.

- So what happened asyou walked the streets?

Tell me how things began to unfold.

- Well, I walked the streets

and the first time I get to the march,

everybody did not want me to march.

But then I walked down the street

and this lady comes out ofthe crowd with a big hug.

And it was kinda likean angel had come out,

and I would later findher name was Angela.

(Terry laughs)

And then after that hug,

I walked down and a group of ladies

asked me if they could pray for me.

And at that moment I just felt that

I was going to be okay.

You know, when people askwhy didn't I wear my vest,

and I said that I didn't need that vest

because I felt I already hadthis shield from that prayer.

- You know, you understand, of course,

in a riot scenario why it's necessary

for people involved in keeping the law

to wear protective gear.

But it does really, I'm not suggesting

the people shouldn't whena riot is taking place,

but it does really separateyou from the population.

And hearing their hearts,

having them able to speakto you about their concerns.

I mean, part of what was, I think, so

just angering to people was the fact

that Michael Brown's body lay in

the street for four and a half hours

after he'd been shot.

But that was because of fear.

I mean, people were afraid to,

people that normally would go in

and remove the bodywere afraid to do that.

How do you overcome things like that?

- And that was true.

That's a true statement.

But also I think that you have to say

that you could understand the pain.

- Oh my goodness, yes.- Because I had to

ask myself what if that was my son.

- [Terry] Amen.

- And so sometimes noexcuse is good enough.

And I still believe to this day

that we should've done something different

and that no one's child should lay there.

- Hindsight's always 20/20,

but when things happen like this

where they're so explosive,

they're in some ways somewhat predictable.

But this was a community that,

I mean, you grew up there.- Right.

- This was a community in Middle America

where people went to work,

where they went to church on Sunday,

where parents were involved in

the lives of their children.

I mean, it wasn't a place where

this kind of thing normally happened.

But you say in your book early on,

and I think this is suchan important statement

for us all to consider,

that everyone has bias,

and having the bias isn't the issue.

It's what you do with it.

How do you speak to thatin our culture today?

There's so much angst, it seems, racially.

A lot of racial tensionin the country today.

What do you say to people after

experiencing what you experienced?

- You know, I say that wecan find value in each other

and those things that we see and we hear,

we need to try to experience those.

I know there are lessonsthat we can learn,

and those are things that we can embrace

that will make us better.

And, yeah, I agree, we all have 'em,

but it's what we do with 'em.

I think we learn from those.

I think we need to seeeach other for who we are.

- It was interesting to read in here

how you had to contend with that early on

because, of course,you're involved in a force

with people who black,people who are white.

And under the tension and stress

of the situation and even being elevated

to the position that youwere of taking charge,

you kind of see some of your friends

fall by the waysideand things come forward

that I think maybe you didn't even

realize existed or maybe hoped didn't

in your relationshipwith some of the people

who were white on the force.

I mean, you had to swallow some stuff

in all of that and move on.

What is it that we shouldall learn from that,

take into account, not be easily offended,

to be able to do something that matters

in the midst of it all?

- Well, I would say the toughest part

of the road is themiddle part of the road.

And sometimes we all have to

get on that middle part of the road

and reveal ourselves and give our, yes.

And try to pull things together.

But, you know, people aregonna see us for who we are,

and I think, for me, I walkedthat middle of the road,

and I think peoplewanted me to take sides,

and I didn't wanna do that.

And I think for me to take sides

would've been selfish as a leader

because I needed to takewhatever came with that,

whether that was criticism.

You know, I'd say today that some people

see me as a traitor onboth sides of the road.

But I'm okay with that because

my main mission during that Ferguson

and being the commanderwas to make sure that

on both sides everybody got to go home,

and there was no blood on my hands,

and another life was not lost.

- And sometimes when you walk the middle

of the road you gotta, no matter what's

going on in your heart or your stomach,

you just gotta walk tall.

And your dad really setthat example for you,

and you named some other leaders over time

that have done the same.

And I'm sure you must'vefelt a sense of that

as you walked down the middle of the road,

as you were seeking to bring some peace

and some resolution to some of this.

Are you teaching your kids those things?

Are you? (laughs)

- I did, we talk about just keep walking.

And I think I'm still on that journey.

I don't know where it's going to lead me,

but I'm still walking totry to make that difference.

- I mean, in a sense, in the world

that we live in today, we all need to be

walking that journey, oneday, one step at a time.

It's an amazing book.

It's so well written.

I thoroughly enjoyed it,

and I think you will, too.

Captain Johnson's book iscalled "13 Days in Ferguson."

It'll take you back to four years ago

when this event occurred, and it'll also

challenge you in your thinking,

just as a person that's a citizen

of the United States and what our role

needs to be in being a part of

the community of citizenship here.

You can also hear more ofCaptain Johnson's story

in the social exclusive interview

on our Facebook page.

Go to

Ron, thank you.

- Thank you very much.

- Yes, a man of stature.- It's an honor.

- Well, still ahead, your questions

and some honest answers.

Lynn says, as a single, divorced father,

I was always there for my daughter.

Now that she's grown,I never hear from her.

What should I do?

Pat's gonna answer that andmore, and it's all coming up.

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- Well, when fire ragedthrough his community

in Iquitos, Peru, that's downon the Amazon, I might add,

a man named Luis was left with nothing.

Not only did he lose place to live,

he also lost a small business

that was his only means of support.

Now that man was 70 yearsold, and he had nothing.

He had to start all over again.

Watch this story.

(tense music)- When a fire burned

40 houses in his community in Peru,

Luis said he barely escaped with his life.

- The lady started screaming fire, fire.

We are burning.

I did not know what to take.

I grabbed my little bag where I had

my documents and ran away.

(melancholy music)The next day,

everything was in ashes.

Everything had burned, and I was sad

to see everything thatthe fire had taken away.

- [Reporter] Luis turned 70 this year.

He now had to start over.

- I lost everything I had,

my Bible, my money, my dentures.

Everything was all burned.

(uplifting music)- When Operation Blessing

visited the community, we learned that

the government wouldrebuild the burned houses.

But since Luis lost everything,

he had no way to restart his business.

So we provided him witha new portable stand

filled with candy andother snacks to sell.

Everyone was glad to seehim back in business.

- [Luis] The candy cart forme is a blessing from God

because with this cart I do my work.

- [Reporter] We had twomore gifts for Luis,

a Bible to replace the one he'd lost,

and some new dentures.

- The Bible accompaniesme and my teeth, too.

Now I can laugh.

Thanks, Operation Blessing,

for what you have done in my life.

I thank God for you.

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- So you're reaching all the way down

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Isn't that interesting?

- Well, it's amazing,

and to see a 70 year old man

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All right, let's take

some questions.- Okay, we've got

some email questions here, Pat.

The first one comes from Lynn,

who says, as a single, divorced father,

I was always there for my daughter.

I never missed a visitation

or picking her up from school,

never missed a child support payment,

and never missed a birthday or Christmas.

We were always togetherwhen she was little.

I was always there for her,

but now that she's grown,I never hear from her.

She rarely returns my phone calls

or texts and rarely visits.

I never get a phone call, card,

or visit on Father's Day.

I'm just simply ignored.

What should I do?

What's your advice on handling this?

- Well, that girl isjust absolutely awful.

I mean, you know, the Bible says

we're supposed to honorour mother and father,

and you have gone beyond,

above and beyond the call

to look after that daughter.

And I don't understand 'cause daughters

usually have an affinityfor their fathers.

And I don't understandwhat's wrong with her.

But what should you do?

I think you need to get on with your life.

I know there's a great hole in your heart

and you're grieving, but you need to

give it to the Lord and

lose yourself in helping people.

You like to help people,

and I recommend that you do that.

And just pray that somehow that girl.

I don't understand.

Terry, can you understand

what a daughter would, you know,

turn on her father that way?

- Well, I don't understand,

and I don't understand whether she's,

whether in her mind she'sreally turning on him

or she just has moved on with her own life

and gotten caught up and ignoring him.

I don't know.

- I mean, for heaven's sakes,

your and mother and father,

you don't move on with your life.

I mean, you know. (laughs)

It's your mother and father.

- It's true, and, you know,

I'm hearing what the dad is saying

but the girl must havesome story of her own.

- Well, it must been.

Maybe her mother's gotten to her

and turned her against her father,

which is quite possible.

I don't know, but all I can say to you--

- The peril of divorce.- The question is

what do I do, and what you do is

turn it over to the Lordand get on with your life.

There's nothing elseyou can do, all right?

- Right, this is Marie, Pat, who says,

when I was 22 years old,

I lost my eight-month-old son.

I was a Christian, but stillmy life was devastated.

At first, I felt thecomfort of the Holy Spirit,

but some months later Iturned away from God in anger.

Years later, I rededicated my life,

but I still struggle with understanding

why God allowed my baby to die.

This causes me to have constant anxiety

that another catastrophe will happen.

I've prayed for a resurgence of my faith

and feel guilty for mylack of faith and trust.

Do you have any suggestionsthat might help me?

- Well, the Bible saysperfect love casts out fear.

You know, some tragedy.

You know, what we gotta understand is that

we can't blame every tragedy on God.

Our human life consists of ups and downs.

All of us have trials.

All of us have disappointments.

All of us have losses.

And it's part of the life we live.

And I think what you need to do

is to have confidence that

your life is going to work out.

And, you know, the Bible says a man

shall eat good by the fruit of his lips.

You need to confess continually that

your life is going to blessed,

and God's gonna bless you.

And what happened to that little child,

who knows, but what you do know is that

that child's with Jesus,

and that's the most important thing.

The child is wonderful.

He's in heaven with the angels, all right.

- Okay, this is Lungi, who says,

after being unemployed for a while

I decided to start upa laundromat from home,

and I've been tithing sinceI started last November.

But I skipped a month recently

and wanted to know how to handle this.

Do I give double next month,

or do I just overlook it and continue?

- I tell you, God isn't some

Philadelphia lawyer keepingaccounts of everything.

(gentle music)

Do whatever you feel right in your heart.

If you wanna give double,

by all means, do.

God's gonna bless you,and your heart is right.

So I think if you wanna add an extra month

on that tithe, by all means, do so,

and it'll be blessed.

Well, today's powerminute is from the Psalms.

May he grant you accordingto your heart's desire

and fulfill all your purpose.

God bless you.

See you next week, bye-bye.

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