Billy Graham is coming to the big screen. Find out why actor Will Graham is uniquely qualified to take on the role. Plus, historian Jon Meachum attempts to uncover, The Soul of America.
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- [Narrator] Coming up.
- Miracles didn't save me, Padre.
Couple of them pilots did that.
- [Narrator] The sequel tothe hit movie, Unbroken.
Louis Zamperini's Path ToRedemption hits the big screen.
Plus, a sit down with aPulitzer prize winning author.
- The news cycle is for a moment.
History is forever.
- [Narrator] Scott Rosstalks with historian,
Jon Meacham about The Soul of America.
- Do you believe thatAmerica is now experiencing
a dark nighted soul?
- [Narrator] On today's 700 Club.
- Well, welcome to thisedition of The 700 Club.
Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh,
faces the U.S. Senate today,
kickstarts the confirmation process
and will no doubt bring high drama.
Democrats have beenwaiting and trying to delay
the confirmation and now,they'll try to trip him up
during his hearings.
- Well meanwhile, thejudge says he'll be neutral
In remarks released this morning,
he also says he's ready to bea part of the team of nine.
White House correspondentBen Kennedy reports.
- Today is the culminationof weeks of preparation.
The White House has beenhelping the nominee prepare
with mock hearings,prepping Kavanaugh with
rapid fire questions he will likely face.
Bottom line, they wanthim to be ready for what
could be a rough and tumble week.
Supreme Court nomineejudge, Brett Kavanaugh,
takes center stage on Capitol Hill today.
The judiciary committee willbegin the confirmation process
with opening statements followedby two days of questioning.
During that time, Kavanaughwill face lawmakers
who don't want him on the high court.
Many democrats evenrefuse to meet with him
and tried to delay the hearing.
- I am considering all thetools that are available
to delay this nomination.
I will not meet with Judge Kavanaugh.
- [Ben] But republicans putthe brakes on any effort
to push the hearing untilafter the mid terms.
- Let there be no misunderstandingthat there would be
any kind of delaying tacticthat would take us past
the first Tuesday of November.
- [Ben] President Trump'ssecond Supreme Court nominee
is expected to face avicious confirmation battle.
His stance on Roe v. Wade
has been a center point of contention.
- He said that he agreed withthat Justice Roberts said
at his nomination hearing in which he said
that is was settled law.
- [Ben] Many democrats want more than that
and plan to use their time to pick apart
a stance on abortion and other issues.
- How much more do theyneed to know to vote no?
And yet, they're reallypushing hard for everything.
- [Ben] Kavanaugh enters the ring
with respected credentials.
He earned a Yale law degree,
clerked for Justice Anthony Kennedy,
and has a vast judicial recordwith more than 300 opinions.
His confirmation couldinfluence the court for decades.
- I think as JudgeKavanaugh satisfying people
that he's going to bean independent person
that's gonna leave hispersonal views out of it,
that he's going to look at the law
and look at the facts of the case.
- Now, republicans hope toget Kavanaugh on the bench
by October 1st, the start ofthe next Supreme Court session.
The GOP has a razor thinmajority in the Senate
and will need every vote topush this nominee through.
Ben Kennedy, CBN News, the White House.
- Thanks Ben.
Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska is on
the Senate Judiciary Committee.
He joins us now.
Senator, we welcome you to The 700 Club.
- Good morning, thank you for the invite.
- Could I ask you, whatwould be your description
of an ideal Supreme Court judge?
- Somebody who knows why theyput a robe on every morning
and understands our Constitution.
So, in our system, we havethree branches of government
in the founders wisdomand we distinguish between
legislating, between executing those laws,
and between the role of judging.
Both legislators and the president
and vice president can be hired and fired
by the people everytwo, four, or six years.
But a judge, they havea lifetime appointment
and they put on this blackrobe to cloak their partisan
and policy preferencesand their personal views.
Underneath, they may havea red or a blue jersey
when they were nominated or they maybe had
political views in thepast, but on the court,
that's not their joband that's why they have
lifetime tenures, so we want somebody
who defends the Constitutionand the separation of powers
and doesn't try to be a superlegislator from the bench.
- We've had judicial activism before.
As a matter of fact, thereare many people who think
the Constitution isn'tsupposed to be interpreted
according to what was written,
but according to sociological trends.
How do you view that?
- Yeah, that's a veryconfused view of America.
So we're skeptical in America, of power,
because we know that themost important things in life
happen not by compulsion but by love.
Where you raise your kids,where you persuade people
to join your church, whereyou try to persuade somebody
to buy your new product ordesign a new app with you,
most of what matters inAmerica is volunteerism.
So, we want a limitedgovernment where power is really
hard to use and so, in our system,
government can't just growbecause a whole bunch of
elites in Washington DCwant it to get bigger.
If you wanna change the Constitution,
you have to formally amendit because the people have
that power, we don't wantjudges trying to decide
what the Americangovernment should grow to.
We want we the people to retain the power.
- What do you think themajor question is gonna be?
I think Justice Ginsburglaid down the rule
that they can't ask thejudge how he or she will vote
on any particular issue.
Is that still, that rulestill pertain today?
- I think it shouldand I think you'll hear
Judge Kavanaugh have alittle bit of a tension
in his soul a few times as he tries to
answer questions todaybecause he's a teacher, right?
He cares about passingon basic American civics
to the next generation.
He's been on the DCCircuit Court of Appeals
for 12 years, but he'salso been a law professor
at both Harvard and Yale and Ithink when he gets questions,
he's gonna wanna lay outall the ways that Americans
should think about these problems.
Yet, it's very importantfor a judge to not pre judge
cases that are gonna comebefore them in the future.
So, the Justice Ginsburgprecedent that you reference,
Reverend Robinson, he's gonna say,
"There are cases thatare gonna come before us
"and I can't opine on them,but let's back up a little bit
"and say, what would theConstitution have to say
"to this matter or whatare the major cases
"that have been decided in the past?"
He with Judge, now JusticeGorsuch, wrote a book
on Stare Decisis, whichis the principle about
past Supreme Court decisions.
And I think he'll talk a little bit
about that today as well.
- What about the argumentthat's being made
by the democrats, especiallythe minority leader
of the Senate, saying thereason why we ought to delay
What do you think?
How would you address that?
- Yeah, so leaderSchumer's not telling the
full truth on this matter,so let's get the few
facts out there.
Number one, this judge, Judge Kavanaugh,
has had more papers, moretotal documents submitted
from his record thanthe last five nominees
to the Supreme Court combined.
Judge Kavanaugh, morepapers submitted to our
judiciary committee than thelast five judicial nominees
to the Supreme Court combined.
All of his paper that'srelevant to what we're doing
has been rapidly cominginto the committee.
I think it's been 57 dayssince he was nominated.
So we're starting thishearing about a week later
than the last three justices
have had their hearings started.
What hasn't happenedis every single thought
that George W. Bush mayhave had as president
hasn't been submitted to thecommittee because it's not
relevant to this processand what the democrats
have been trying to do issay because Brett Kavanaugh,
at a point in his past,he spent about three years
as staff secretary of the White House,
which is essentially themain secretarial role
that serves the presidentwith all paper that comes
to the president or goesback out from the president
to the cabinet officials,
those are not Brett Kavanaugh's documents.
Those are George W. Bush's documents
and those documents werenot things that Kavanaugh
had a decision making role on.
So democrats are tryingto imply that there's been
obstruction because we don'thave every journal entry
George W. Bush ever wrote, but again,
there's more paper fromKavanaugh that's come in
than the last five nominees combined
and the guy has servedfor 12 straight years
on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.
He's authored more than 300 opinions.
More than 100 of them havebeen cited by his peers
or 200 other judges on federal courts.
That's a pretty good wayto get a sense of what his
judicial philosophy is.
- Lindsey Graham thinkshe'll pick up as many as
55 votes and at leastthree, maybe four democrats
who will vote for him.
What's your view on that?
You think he'll get that many?
- You know, I'm not sure.
Kavanaugh's a very impressive guy
and all the hyperventilatingthat we're seeing
on liberal media abouthow the world's gonna end
and water will always bedirty and he hates clean air
and he doesn't like women,children, or puppies.
It's all silly and peopleknow it isn't true.
So I think after this hearing, you may see
five, six, seven, eight democratsjoin with the Republicans,
but I don't think you're gonna see
any democrat be the 51st vote.
It's a 50 republican, 49democrat Senate right now
and I think it'll take everyone of the 50 republicans
being on record before thefirst few democrats join
but I think 55, 56, 57,that's a reasonable argument
that Lindsey made.
- Last question, assuminghe's on that court,
what impact do you think he,when you've got Dershowitz now
and Robertson, is that courtgonna turn dramatically
or will it just be aslight shift to the right?
- You know, I think he's gonnabe a very important addition
to the court.
I usually try to resistrepublican versus democrat
or right versus left views of the court
'cause I think what youand I both want is a court
that isn't trying toadvance policy preferences
but's trying to do themodest role of what a judge
is empowered to do and so,I think when Judge Kavanaugh
replaces Justice Kennedy on the bench,
then again, the SupremeCourt goes back into session
at the end of the 1st week of October
and we need him to be on the court by then
so they can start their work.
I think there are a numberof places where he's gonna be
in line with Kennedy.
Kennedy was a big first amendmentdefender and we need that.
We've seen that in theColorado case of the baker
trying to be compelled, for instance.
But I think in addition, you'regonna see Judge Kavanaugh
more resistant than Kennedywas to try and think about
the evolution of more A's in society.
I think that'll be areal welcome addition.
So I think your viewers should applaud
the president's nominationof Judge Kavanaugh
and I think we're gonna seehim on the court in a month.
- Senator, thank you.
Very concise, very cozy, thank you so much
for being with us.
- Thank you, sir.
- Oh, that's a start momentarily, right?
- Amen, well, he's gonnabe one of those voting
in the judiciary committeeand I think they will
block any democrat efforts totry to embarrass Kavanaugh.
He is a pretty smart guyand they are briefing him
up to the limits right now
about how to answer these questions.
The biggest thing is don't get trapped,
don't get extreme.
Just take it easy and yaknow, I'm sorry Senator,
but I'm not able tocomment on that kinda thing
and just get on with it.
He's gonna get confirmed and the Senator,
October one and this is coming up.
We're in September.
But he'll be confirmed inthe next several weeks.
So, there's no question about it.
He's an extraordinarily confident man.
- Yeah, it would be hardnot to vote for him.
- You have to be kind ofa screwball on the left
to say this man
is not qualified.- Isn't qualified, yeah.
- He's as fine a judge asyou would hope to find.
You don't find anybodywith any better credentials
than Brett Kavanaugh, Terry.
- Well, coming up, meet awoman running a 24 hour,
seven day a week prayer line.
- I think that this is a time where
there's a unity that I've neverseen in the body of Christ.
- [Terry] See how she's standingon the wall for our country
when we return.
- Well, you know, the Bible tells us
we're to pray for our leaders.
That's a very important thing,
pray for those of authority.
With the mid term elections approaching,
Christians across thecountry are making their
voices heard where?
As CBN's Jenna Browder shows us,
they're praying for more thanjust our political leaders.
- [Jenna] Major moments.
- Today, we open the United States Embassy
in Jerusalem, Israel.
- [Jenna] American history in the making.
- [Woman] God, that you wouldopen his eyes and his heart
would be bound to your heart.
- [Jenna] And behind it all,a network of prayer warriors
interceding for leaders and country.
- So, we're seeing aunited prayer movement
that I've never seen.
- [Woman] So Father, wemove President Trump.
- [Jenna] Meet MaureenBravo, on the front lines
helping lead the charge.
- I'm 71 now.
I think I'm 28, but I'm 71.
But I think that this is atime where there's a unity
that I've never seenin the body of Christ.
- Maureen started a prayer call line
during the 2016 presidential election.
She says people would callin from all over the country
to intercede for God's will.
But once the election was over,
the prayer line went silent.
- I thought, how crazy am I?
I've dialed this code so many times.
How could I mess it up?
I got back on, there was nobody there.
I say down, I said,"What's going on, God?"
He said, "The election'sover, everybody left the wall.
"Get back on the wall."
- [Jenna] That's exactly what she did.
- Our 24/7 National StrategicPrayer Call was launched
on two days after the election.
- [Jenna] Just like itsname suggests, the line runs
24 hours a day, seven days a week
and is definitely strategic.
Volunteer facilitatorsstart each hour praying
for President Trumpand his administration.
From there, they move onto specific topics
like the mid term elections.
- We've launched the callto the wall to pray for the
mid term elections and we'rehaving major ministries
across the United States openingtheir conference call lines
and hosting calls prayingfor those that are coming in.
- Our nation, our president, revival.
- [Jenna] Stephanie Martinis another prayer warrior
on the wall.
Twice a week, at 5:30 in the morning,
she hops on a call tolead a group of about
15 in prayer.
- It is the most exciting.
It's like, we all say it'sthe best part of our week.
We can't wait to geton the phone and pray,
that we just feel the power of God
and we know that we are makinga difference in our country.
- [Jenna] She says President Trump's
Supreme Court nominationsand his decision to move the
U.S. Embassy in Israelare both answered prayers.
And they're hopeful forthe mid term elections too.
- You know, we just pray that anybody
who loves the Lord and whoseheart is to do ya know,
his will, we just pray for God to ya know,
get those votes out for him or her.
- Beyond November, Stephanie'sgroup is interceding
for revival in America,
like others we've seen breakout throughout history.
- The scripture says to be persistent
and not grow weary in well doing.
So we're gonna keep asking.
We're gonna keep praying.
We're gonna be relentlessuntil we see America,
the heart and soul of thisnation healed and changed.
- [Jenna] Maureen wants to seethat for our country as well.
- A lot of people wannasay this person's causing
the problems in our nationand somebody else is
causing them or it's apolitical party or a movement.
The problem with ournation is that the church
has been sleeping.
We are calling the church.
Wake up, wake up.
So, when we start to dowhat we're supposed to do,
everything else will fall into line.
I really believe that.
- [Jenna] As for the 24/7 prayer line,
she says she's not surewhere God takes it from here.
- He just said, "Get back on the wall."
It's like you're on a need to know basis.
What do you want us to do today?
Tomorrow will take careof itself, but right now,
we have a critical responsibility.
- [Jenna] That responsibility,to pray for Godly candidates
to win in November.
- Judge Gorsuch.
- [Jenna] And for all ofthose already in office.
In Washington, Jenna Browder, CBN News.
You know, there's so many yearsand I think over the years,
we have a timeline, my secretary gave me
about the times we've prayed
for the Supreme Court specifically.
I must say, those prayersare being answered.
They weren't answered right away.
They were answered yaknow, a few years later.
But they have definitely been answered
and right now, we're seeing adramatic shift in the court.
This is remarkable.
One more with Judge Kavanaugh going on.
You've got Gorsuch andKavanaugh and you've got
the other conservatives on there.
So now, you've got a fiveto four majority of judges
who are true to the meaningof the Constitution.
Then the lower court judges,the president has got
the opportunity to fill anynumber of appellate court seats,
district court seats, and it'sremarkable what's happening
and it'll have a profoundimpact on this nation,
not to mention the fact thatthere are gonna be many,
many, many legislative races coming up,
as well as congressional and Senate races.
God is moving.
We're getting another chance as a nation.
We're getting another chance.
Don't blow it.
So now's the chance to pray.
Alright, what ya got?
- Up next, the second part tothe story of an American hero.
See what happened to LouZamperini after Unbroken
when we come back.
In 2014, moviegoerssaw the inspiring story
of Louis Zamperini, anOlympic runner who became
a prisoner of war.
That film ended shortlyafter Louis returned home
Now, in the sequel to that movie,
tells the rest of his story.
Here's a sneak peak atUnbroken: Path To Redemption.
- Bless you Louis, welcome home.
All of Torrence was prayingfor your safe return.
- Miracles didn't save me, Padre.
Couple of the pilot palms did that.
- You're Louis Zamperini, aren't you?
- For what?
- For preserving the freeworld for silly girls like me.
- People from all overthe country want to know
if you're going to run in the Olympics.
- I don't run to run.
I run to win.
I just thought I'd beable to forget everything.
Figured I'm getting nightsweats or nightmares.
- You need help.
- Here tonight, there's a drowning man.
But there's a lifeline.
Just reach out.
- These men did terrible things to you.
What are you gonna say to them?
- Well joining us now is Will Graham,
one of the actors in Unbroken
and Will plays the partof Billy Graham who
just so happened to be Will's grandfather.
- Well thank you so much.
- Nice to have you here.
Was this your first acting?
- My first and probably my last.
- What was it like for you?
- It was real nerve wracking, I mean,
'cause I'm a preacher.
This is not something I went looking for.
- [Terry] It came to you.
- It came to me and Iprayed about it because
this is something, adecision that my granddaddy
had to make in 1949because the movie people
all came after him.
We want you to be in movies.
He said no.
Now, I'm actually was thinking about it
and I had to pray aboutit and Lord gave me
peace about it, so I madea decision to do the movie.
I'm grateful for the experiencebut it was nerve wracking.
- History repeating itself, huh?
- A little bit.
- Well, in the movie, we seeLouis returning from Japan.
What was life like for him after that?
It wasn't exactly happily ever after.
- No and that's wherethe first movie ends.
Everything looks good.
He hugs his mom, his dad,
his family.- Welcome home, right?
- Yeah, welcome home, andyou think everything's fine.
But what we know today is PTSD.
Louis started selfmedicating using alcohol
and that's how he's trying toget rid of these nightmares.
He had nightmares every night with a man
who tortured him whilehe was a prisoner of war.
His name was the bird, thatwas his nickname, the bird.
The bird would torture him and he'd had
all these nightmares,
but he was trying to get by with alcohol.
He thought maybe love was it.
He got married, married abeautiful lady from Florida.
They moved back to California.
They had a child together.
He was trying to get back into running,
but that came to an end.
His leg broke and hecouldn't do it anymore.
So, all this is compounding this problem.
So, his life was broken fullyand it was out of desperation
that he would go head my granddad.
- You know, my Dad foughtin the second World War
and I think you're right,that we didn't know PTSD
when these men returned from action
and many of them suffered the kinds
and not as deeply perhaps, as Louis did,
but just from the things that they saw
and society didn't always understand that.
In the movie, his wife, Cynthia,
is really kind of the heroine of that.
Tell us about her role.
- She is and she grew upwith a religious background
and Louis was more of a skeptic,
a cynic when it came to religion.
But her marriage was falling apart
and she was gonna divorce him.
She said, "I can't do this, Louis.
"I'm gonna seek for a divorce."
He didn't wanna divorce his wife,
but he realized deep downinside, he was the problem.
He didn't know how to fix the problem.
He didn't know how to fix himself,
so she went outta desperation to a friend.
Here's a real hero.
A friend said, "Come withus to hear Billy Graham."
You gotta remember, you say today,
"Well, everybody knows Billy Graham."
1949, nobody knew Billy Graham.
Billy Graham was a nobody.
So, she would go andgive her life to Christ
and she came back, said Louis,
I'm not gonna divorce ya.
He was so touched.
It softened his heartthat he was willing to go.
One of the next times that she would ask,
that he would say yes, I'll go.
- So is that how he andyour grandfather connected
with each other?
- Yes, it was in 1949 afterhe gave his life to Christ.
Now, there was thousandsof people that would end up
giving their life toChrist, but there was three
famous people that wouldcome to know Christ.
One was Stuart Hamblen.
Stuart Hamblen was kingof radio on the west coast
and he would come to know Christ.
A man named Jim Vaus.
Jim Vaus was the wiretapper for Mickey Cohen,
the mobster, LA mobster.
Jim Vaus would take mygranddaddy to meet Mickey Cohen,
trying to lead him to Christ.
Now, Mickey wouldn't cometo know Christ at that time.
But then, later on, we see that Jim,
Louis Zambrini would come to know Christ.
So it was a great story ofhow so many lives were changed
but in particular, those three people.
- Coming to Christ wasthe initial changing point
of Louis' life, but forgiveness was, whew.
- That was the bestpart of the whole movie.
- That's what gave him freedom.
- It did.
And Louis always said, hedidn't know what God did
in his life.
Now that was in 1949.
Later on, he would go to Sugamo Prison,
Sugamo Prison in Japanto face the same men
that had captured him and tortured him.
- [Terry] What was that like for him?
- So for him, this is a moment of test.
If I can forgive thesepeople, then I know that God's
truly forgiven me.
So, it was a God test.
'Cause he didn't knowif this was just emotion
that he'd been ridingon but this is gon' be
the real test of hisfaith if he could look at
those men that did allthese bad things to him.
If he could turn around andlove them and forgive them.
He said when he firstsaw em, his heart melted
and he said that he knew forsure what God did back in 1949,
changed his life.
So, that was kind of theproof in the pudding,
you might say, at what took place.
- So it wasn't justfreedom from the hatred
that he had felt or theanger that had been in him,
but really, freedom tounderstand how forgiving he was
- It was, I mean,- in the process.
- to me, it's the greateststory of forgiveness
outside of the Bible, it'sone of the greatest stories
of forgiveness and that'swhy I'm so grateful to
just have a small part in this film
and grateful for the story of how God used
Billy Graham and Louis Zambriniat one moment in history.
- [Terry] Why do you thinkforgiveness is so powerful?
- Well, there's so manypeople looking for it today.
I saw a study the otherday that people are,
one of the most,
I think it was at one ofthe Ivy league schools.
I wanna say Princeton,it may not be Princeton,
but one of these Ivy league schools.
The number one class, itwas a study on happiness,
trying to find happiness andso many people are looking for
happiness, joy in life, but yet,
they've got guilt in their life.
They don't know how toget rid of this guilt.
They want to experiencehappiness but they're not
because they're carrying aroundguilt and sin in their life.
Until they understand thatyou can get rid of sin
through the power of theblood of Jesus Christ,
and that's the only way.
That's what Louis found out.
It was only through, itwasn't through alcohol,
it wasn't through money or running.
It was through forgiveness,but Christ forgiving him,
that he was able to forgive others.
So that was one of the mostimportant lessons for Louis.
So many people in today's world too.
- You preach like a Graham.
(laughs)- A little bit.
- Well, you're Franklin'sson, your grandfather
was the famous Billy Graham.
Passed away not long ago.
How's your family doing?
- Well, I appreciate you asking.
You know, we miss him.
We miss my granddaddy andhe was a great staple.
We love him, we call him Daddy Bill.
That's his grandchildren,that's what we call him.
We miss Daddy Bill.
The world lost Billy Graham,but we lost our grandfather.
- [Terry] But he'll be forever with us.
He was a great legacy.- And we'll see him again.
- Amen, amen.
So wonderful to have you hereand to hear about the movie
that wets people'sappetite to go and see it.
We appreciate your being with us, Will.
- Thank you so much.
- Thank you so much.
Wanna mention to allof you that the movie,
Unbroken: Path To Redemption,
hits theaters all acrossAmerica on September the 14th.
It's rated PG-13.
So, make sure to check yourlocal listings for both time
and locations and Will, again,great to have you with us.
- I thank you.
- Bless you. Pat?
That story of what wasdone to Louis Zamperini
is just unbelievable andthat story of forgiveness
is even more unbelievable.
Still ahead, the fightfor the soul of America.
Author Jon Meacham tells us,takes us inside the pages
of his New York Times bestseller,
when he and Scott Ross come back.
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- Labor Day is theunofficial end of summer,
but here at CBN, Labor Dayis remembered differently.
50 plus years ago, even beforewe first went on the air,
our small staff gatheredtogether on Labor Day
for a special service.
The prayers that dayhad led to the ministry
that you see today and we havekept that tradition of having
a Labor Day prayer service ever since.
Here's some highlightsfrom yesterdays event.
- On Labor Day 1961, when weweren't sure we were gonna
be able to get on the air,
we had a deadline set.
We didn't have enough moneyand we were in a prayer meeting
on Labor Day and we werecrying out to the Lord
because it was the time of desperation.
We needed an open door to beginthe ministry that God had.
I want you to see, it's very true,
God answered every single prayer.
That Labor Day prayermeeting is what launched CBN
and so, from what I understand,from surveys that have
been taken, we haveseen somewhere in excess
of 100 million people cometo the Lord each year.
I think we should prayright now and just thank Him
for what He's done.
Father, we come beforeyou on this Labor Day
and we thank you.
Lord, let your presence andanointing be upon us this year,
in Jesus' name, amen!
- It's always such aspecial time when we gather
corporately and not onlyremember and reflect
on the things that Godhas done over the years
but taking communion togetheris such a meaningful thing.
- Terry, unless you werethere, you wouldn't understand
the desperation we had.
I mean, our engineer had said,
"I can't get this thing going in time."
We had this broken down old transmitter.
We didn't have enough moneyto pay what we had to pay.
We didn't have all the favor we needed.
There were so many thingsthat were impossible
and we were crying out toGod as I said in that time.
God answered every single prayer.
We laid it before him and that was,
that Labor Day prayermeeting was the start of CBN.
I know we have, Octoberthe 1st is our anniversary,
when we first went onthe air and so forth.
But this was Labor Day and that, to me,
that prayer meeting was so key.
So every year since that,we've had a prayer on Labor Day
and we gather the whole staff together.
As you noticed, it was,we were in the chapel
and the place was packedout with our staff.
We had a wonderful time andwe had communion together.
It was beautiful.
So, we honor God here and this ministry
was birthed in prayerand we continue to pray
and we believe in prayer.
The 700 Club was calleda program of quote,
"prayer and praise."
That was how we started.
We haven't stopped.
We understand it's Godthat's doing it, not us.
Well I wanna introduce you to a guy.
I think he may have gone to McCallie
where I went to prepschool a long time ago.
I believe so, but I don'twanna say something without,
I don't have a cue card in front of me.
But anyhow, John Meacham,is an author whose works
have earned him a Pulitzer prize.
In his latest book, The Soul of America,
Jon looks back at the troubling times
in our nation's historyand he told Scott Ross
where he's quote,"hopeful," for our future.
- I recently sat downwith bestselling author
and historian, Jon Meacham, to talk about
his newest book, The Soul of America:
The Battle for our Better Angels.
Now, this is the onewe're talking about today.
Define soul for me.
- In Hebrew and in Greek,it means breath or life.
When God breathes lifeinto man in Genesis,
it's the word soul.
My sense is that he soul of the country
is our essence in the sameway the individual has one
and it's capable of greatgood and sometimes great evil.
Every era is definedby the extent to which
the good crowds out the bad or vice versa.
- Saint John of the Crosswrote something called
The Dark Night of the Soul.
Do you believe thatAmerica is now experiencing
a dark night of the soul?
- I don't.
I think that the countryis divided and contentious,
dispirited and unhappy,
but I think that everyera has those elements.
And if you think of this historically
as opposed to just kind of falling prey
to the narcissism of the present,
if you look at this in context,
this is not like 1968.
I'd rather be dealingwith Twitter than with
the Ted offensive and so,
I think you will very rarelyhave found an American
in the last 242 years who would've said
everything is just right.
Everything is perfect.
- Politicians, should they reflect
the values of the people who elect them?
- Well, should they bea mirror or a molder?
- Or a what?
- Molder.- Yeah.
- They're far more oftenmirrors than they are molders.
We remember the moldersmore than the mirrors.
Look at Rushmore, for instance.
You have Washington,Lincoln, T.R., Jefferson.
It's the people who we write books about,
that we think about most,
are ones who didn't simplygive us what we wanted.
They taught us to want something more.
- Do you believe that politicians today,
they're compromising theirown personal integrity
for political expedience.
- Are politicians guiltyof political expedience?
That's the air they breathe.
So, what I think we haveto do is find a way to
make it safe for politicalleaders to take risks.
That's up to us.
Because they're gonnahear from both extremes.
They're gonna hear from thefar right and the far left.
It's this broad middlethat has such a hard time
What we have to make clear to them
and what I've tried to do in this book
and what I talk about, it is,
the news cycle is for a moment.
History is forever.
- Why is history important to us?
Well without history, wehave no capacity to determine
how significant something is.
Arthur Schlesinger once saidthat history is to a nation
as memory is to a person.
- Are you hopeful forour future, for America?
- I'm very hopeful.
The Constitution was writtenfor moments like this.
The Declaration ofIndependence, the Constitution,
that was all an embodimentof the idea that the mind
should play a significantrole as the heart and the gut
in how we act toward each other.
And if you wanna be totally true
to the founding principles of the country,
you have to evaluate eachstatement, each moment,
not on who's taking that stand,
but whether the stand is worth taking.
- So, we press on, Jon.
- Always, thank you.
- Thank you.
- Terrific, Jon Meacham's book is called
The Soul of America: TheBattle for our Better Angels.
Something we commend to you.
You can pick up a copywherever books are sold.
I have confirmationfrom our staff, indeed,
he did graduate fromMcCallie School where I went.
I think I was class of '46.
He may have been a little bit after me.
He's such a young guyand I'm such an old man,
but anyhow, we bothwent to the same school
and I think we learnedsome good things there.
I'm very grateful for that education.
The Soul of America, Jon Meacham.
- Well, still ahead, Pat's gonna tackle
the tough questions sentin from you, our viewers.
Carolyn asks, "Is it asin to buy a lotto ticket
"once a week?"
Get ready for anotherround of your questions
and some honest answers, that's next.
- I'm glad those people are responding.
It's called Miraculous Blessings.
Scott and I sat down togetherand had a wonderful time
talking about the source ofblessing, how you get blessing,
what hinders blessing, andwe've got this in a DVD
called Miraculous Blessing.
It'll be available--
- [Terry] Starting the 17th of this month.
- We're almost there.
- [Terry] We're almost there.
- Almost there.
- [Terry] Hold on.
- Get your track shoeson, get ready to go.
The starting gun will goon September the 17th.
- Well, in China, ayoung girl drew pictures.
She picked wildflowers and made wreaths
to celebrate the birthof her new baby brother.
Then, when he was born, allthe celebration stopped.
Suddenly, his familybecame desperate for help.
Chun Yu could hardly waitto meet her baby brother.
- [Translator] I pickedwildflowers in the mountains
and made a wreath he could wear
when he got home from the hospital
and I drew a picture of himlooking really handsome.
- [Terry] But sadly,Sun Song was born with
a cleft lip and palette.
- [Translator] He wasin critical condition
and looked like a tiny squirrel.
- [Terry] Mr. Gaul worriedhe wouldn't be able
to afford surgery for Sun Song,
because as a farmer, he onlymakes nine dollars a week.
His wife can't work becauseshe's almost completely deaf.
- [Translator] I just hoped for a miracle.
- [Terry] Sun Song's cleft lip and palette
made it hard for him to eat or drink.
- [Translator] It was so bad that I
couldn't get close to him.
I never gave him the gift I made him.
I threw away the wreath andjust ripped up the drawing.
- [Terry] Meanwhile, ChunYu came up with a plan.
- [Translator] I savedeverything I could for surgery
for Sun Song.
I never spent any money ondrinks, even on hot days.
But when my Dad said it wouldcost thousands of dollars,
- [Terry] Sun Song stayed inside
malnourished and dehydrated.
The few times he wentout, people laughed at him
and called him a monster.
- [Translator] I felt so sorryfor my poor little brother.
I wanted to protect him.
- [Terry] Then a flooddrowned the Gaul's crops,
draining their income.
All hope for surgery was lost.
- [Translator] I knelt down
and begged the doctors to helpSun Song, but they said no.
They didn't care aboutus because we were poor.
- [Terry] Shortly after this,
CBN came to Sun Song's village.
We told the Gaul's we'dbe happy to provide
cleft lip and palettesurgery free of charge.
- [Translator] It seemslike our world immediately
went from cloudy to sunny.
The surgery was so good, SunSong won't even have scars.
He's finally starting togrow and can go to school.
I know he'll have a good life.
- [Terry] Now, Sun Songloves to wear the wreaths
his sister makes and he looks as cute
as the pictures she draws.
- [Translator] Thank youfor helping my brother.
I know I have never seenyou, but you have shown me
what true love is.
Thank you for bringing us all hope.
May you be happy forever.
- An amazing result, isn't it?
I mean, that child'slife is forever changed.
First of all, just beingable to take nutrition now
and to gain weight, to be healthy,
to be able to speak asthe child grows older
and goes into school tobe socially accepted,
to be able to have a job one day.
All of that happenedbecause you cared enough
to make a difference, 700 Club members,
and we wanna say thank you.
On behalf of this wholefamily, you can see how
loved this little one is.
They simply couldn't afford to do it
on the income they have.
So, if you're not a 700 Club member,
I want you to know, youcan change lives like this
every day of the weekright from the comfort
of your living room.
It's 65 cents a day, 20 dollars a month
to become a member of The 700 Club.
And you do it by goingto our toll free number
and calling 1-800-700-7000,just say you wanna join.
When you do, we wanna send you Pat's DVD
teaching on Angels: TheirPower, Purpose, and Presence
in our lives.
You're gonna love this.
It's filled with amazingtestimonies of people
who've experiencedangelic presence and also,
what the Bible has to say about it.
So, this is our gift toyou and our way of saying
thank you to you for caringabout the needs of other people.
We so appreciate it.
Again, our number is 1-800-700-7000.
By the way, I wanna tellyou what Kevin and Sally
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They said, "Angels was very well done.
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Give us a call.
Ready for some questions?
- Well I'll let ya knowafter you get the question.
- [Terry] Well that's too late.
Here comes the first onefrom Carolyn who says,
"Is it a sin to buy alotto ticket once a week?
"I'm not blowing the budgetsince I am only spending
"one dollar per week."
- Carolyn, I don't thinkit's a sin to put a dollar
onto the lotto, but the big thing is,
are you trusting God oryou think you're gonna,
if you think you're gonna get rich,
you know, it's just a shamehow many people there are
in the world who are just suckers.
These schemes make anenormous amount of money
on people like you throwing their money in
a dollar at a time, 10 dollars at a time,
scratching out something onthese state sponsored deals,
I might add.
The thing is, will youtrust God for your income
and your wealth instead of trusting it.
If your hope is in that, then it's a sin.
If your hope is in God,then you wanna just,
I'm just playing this andit's one more game, OK,
no problem, alright.
- OK, this is a viewer Pat who says,
"I heard Pat mention thatthere is a pouring out
"of the Holy Spirit all over the world,
"yet the United Statesseems to be going to hell
"in a hand basket.
"The Northeast and WestCoast are in desperate need.
"Why aren't evangelists doing more,
"crusades, festivals, revivals, et cetera,
"in the United States?"
"There seems to be so muchtime, money, and effort
"spent to save souls in othercountries but very little
"is done to save souls here.
"Why is that?"
- I think you'remisinterpreting the statistics.
We have more churches inAmerica than any country
probably in the world.
They're on every corner of every city,
they're church after church after church.
The fact that there aren'ta whole bunch of evangelists
running around with tents,that doesn't diminish the fact
that there are peoplewho are serving the Lord
and America is the sendingcountry for the huge
number of people whodo go around the world
and the money to do that has come from
Christians here in America.
There is a move of God in this country.
You just don't see it.
There are churches justfilled with people.
There are, ya know, myown granddaughter has a
prayer meeting once aweek with society ladies,
100 of em, it's called Hot and Heavy.
They're praying and they'rebeing filled with the spirit.
They're seeing miracles and so forth.
I mean, there's a move ofGod throughout this country.
If you're not seeing it,you're just going to the right
- This is Ken who says,"Christians claim that God
"can heal anyone.
"If so, then why did myChristian wife suffer
"and die from cancer?
"We prayed many times a day."
- I don't understand aboutcancer, but I'll tell you
one thing, the treatmentthey give for cancer
is called chemotherapy and chemotherapy
just destroys cells and itkills the will of somebody
I think we have within us an immune system
that if it's turned on properly,
it will kill the cancer cells,
but it isn't turned on so often
by the treatment that's being given.
People are looking andthey're trying to find
You say why does God do it?
God doesn't cause cancer.
Cancer comes from the lifestyle we live.
Is it because of the air?
Is it because of pollution in the water?
Is it the attitude of our mind?
I mean, what is causing cancer?
We don't really know, butto say God's doing it,
God does not cause cancer.
But we are havingtreatment, in my opinion,
that's hindering the natural immune system
of our bodies which will resist cancer.
- This is Marie who says,"Dear Pat, I get very confused
"Some say Christians dieand immediately go to heaven
"and see our loved ones.
"Others say we sleep til the rapture.
"Can you help me on whatis the correct answer?"
- Well, we have a spiritand Jesus told the thief
on the cross, "This day, youwill be with me in paradise."
Paul says I'm astray bychoice to whether to depart
and be with the Lord orto remain in the flesh.
So, from what weunderstand from scripture,
our spirits will goimmediately to either paradise
or a waiting place called Hades.
But we don't, the bodieswon't be resurrected
until the Lord comes back.
We leave you with today's power minute
in first Peter.
"Above all things havefervent love for one another,
"for love will cover a multitude of sins."
Tomorrow, we have got a fabulous program
you don't wanna miss.
A nation of criminals.
We're gonna see howordinary citizens have been
sent to jail.
You don't wanna miss it.
Thank you, bye bye.