- And welcome to Faith Nation.
I'm Jenna Browder.
- And I'm John Jessup.
Well the FBI is set towrap up its investigation
into the sexual assault allegations
against Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
- Ahead of that PresidentTrump is drawing criticism
for appearing to mock Kavanaugh's accuser
Dr. Christine Ford.
- CBN News White House Correspondent
Ben Kennedy joins us from the north lawn
to break down the details, Ben.
- Well Jenna and John President Trump
seems to be questioning the credibility
of the woman who could derailhis Supreme Court nominee.
Some say yes, he's making fun of Dr. Ford.
Others that he's pointingout the inconsistencies
in her testimony.
Either way his remarksare drawing criticism
across party lines.
- How did you get home?
I don't remember.
How'd you get there.
I don't remember.
Where is the place?
I don't remember.
- [Ben] Testifying before theSenate Judiciary Committee,
Dr. Christine Blasey Fordclaimed Judge Kavanaugh
sexually assaulted herat a high school party
in the 80s.
But she couldn't recallsome details of the night.
- Where's the house?
I don't know.
Upstairs, downstairs, where was it?
I don't know.
But I had one beer.
That's the only thing I remember.
- Was it appropriate for President Trump
to openly mock the accountof Christine Ford last night.
- I see that that is the lemming like word
you're all using.
- [Ben] The White House says the President
was simply highlighting theholes in Dr. Fords story.
- The President was stating the facts
and frankly facts that were included
in special prosecutorRachel Mitchell's report.
He was stating facts that were given
during Dr. Ford's testimony.
And the Senate has to make a decision
based on those facts.
- [Ben] Ford's attorneycalled Trumps remarks
vicious, vile, and asoulless attack on Dr. Ford.
The FBI is wrapping up its investigation
into what really happened that night.
And as lawmakers wait for the details,
Trump created more controversy
with this warning for men.
- It's a very scary timefor young men in America
when you can be guilty of something
that you may not be guilty of.
- Now Trump has insistedthat the FBI had free reign
to investigate any allegations
and insist he is notinterfering with the process.
That being said he continuesto stand by Kavanaugh
noting that this is theseventh FBI investigation
on his high court nominee.
Ben Kennedy, CBN News, the White House.
- All right thank you Ben.
Well as the FBI wrapsup their investigation
into Kavanaugh, Senatorsare preparing to vote
on his Supreme Court nomination.
Abigail Robertson joins usfrom Capitol Hill with more,
- Well Senators on both sides of the aisle
are not pleased with thePresident's comments yesterday.
Democrats say it was reprehensible
and that he owes Dr. Ford an apology.
And many Republicans say
they didn't like his comments either
including those threekey Republican Senators
that we've been following quite closely.
Senators Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski,
and Susan Collins.
Flake said there's no time andplace for remarks like that.
And Murkowski calledthem wholly inappropriate
and she added that she'staking everything into account
when deciding how she'll voteon Kavanaugh's nomination.
And here's what Collins had to say.
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- The President's commentswere just plain wrong.
- Ultimately though, it all comes down
to what these Senatorsthink of the FBIs findings
that are set out to come out
either today or tomorrow.
And not what they think ofthe President's actions.
- So Abi what comes afterthat investigation by the FBI?
What's the process gonna be tobring that vote to the floor?
- Well if Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
wants a vote this week onJudge Kavanaugh's nomination
which he has said repeatedly that he does.
He must file cloture by midnight tonight
to set up a vote foreither Friday or Saturday
depending on the if theyuse the whole 30 hours
for debate on this nomination.
Otherwise, if cloture is not filed today
we may not see the voteuntil Sunday at the earliest.
- And Abigail obviously this whole process
has been so contentious,
but you've spoke with some lawmakers
who have been relying on theirfaith through all of this.
- Yes, well I think many on both sides
will be happy to see this end.
Things are very tensehere on Capitol Hill.
But I talked with DemocraticSenator Chris Coons
earlier today who is onthe Judiciary Committee
and he's also co-chair ofthe National Prayer Breakfast
and he's a part of a bipartisangroup of Christian Senators.
They meet every Wednesdayand they pray together
and they study the word withSenate Chaplain Barry Black.
And he told me he was actually the speaker
at this morning's breakfast.
And he says that everyday he tries to pray
for the President and the Senate.
But this week more than anything,
he's just been praying forhumility and for wisdom
from the Lord.
And one other interestingthing about that Bible study,
when I've talked toChaplain Black about it,
he says that he told methat they close each meeting
holding hands with one another in prayer
because they believe it's hard to then go
and stab someone in theback on the Senate floor
that you've just literallybeen holding hands
and praying with.
But he did add while it'shard, it's not impossible.
- Abi that's something youdon't hear anywhere else
so we appreciate that anecdotal story.
One last question for you.
You've been up there every day
for the last couple of weeks.
You have a finger on thepulse of what's happening
on Capitol Hill.
Can you give us a sense,
has there been anymovement when it comes to
where Senators lie whenit comes to this vote?
Do you think thatKavanaugh will be confirmed
or is it now even more so in question
as they wait for the FBI investigation?
- Well I think once again
really Kavanaugh's fate rests in those
three key Senators, Flake,Murkowski, and Collins.
They've really kept together as a group
during this process.
And I think that they are very eager
to see this FBI investigation.
Which I've learned only Senatorswill be able to see this.
They are going to keep that under wraps.
I've heard there will bejust one copy delivered
to the Senate.
And then Senators will be able to go look
at it themselves.
And only nine staff members I think
will be able to see it.
So when the FBI releasesthat investigation,
they're going to try and keep it
as secret as possible.
And then Senators willhave to make the decision
once those findings come out
on how they're going tovote on Judge Kavanaugh.
- Well Abigail Robertson will continue
our coverage of the confirmation vote
as the week goes on.
- Thank you.
- And Jennifer Wishon and Amber Strong
are here now to discuss the repercussions
of the Kavanaugh case.
Ladies thank you both for joining us.
Amber, I wanna start with you.
Let's talk about the midterm elections
and how this could really affect those.
- Well as we see alreadyon both sides of the aisle
this is definitely goingto be a rallying point.
Regardless of where you stand,
you see the GOP led byLindsay Graham saying look
this is the Democrats
and I hope you never get power.
Again because this is the kind of people
that you're going to be.
On the flip side yousee the me too movement
and women and Democrats who are gonna say
look this is how the GOP sees women,
this is how they value women.
It's interesting a poll came out recently.
This was an NPR PBS polllooking at suburban women.
So these are these samecollege educated suburban women
- [Jenna] Critical voting block.
- Critical voting block.
Those same women that tookdown Roy Moore in Alabama.
47% of them said if a candidatesupported Brett Kavanaugh,
they won't support them.
They're likely not to support them.
- That's a crucial votingblock for the Republican party.
- And this is and Amber you're right,
this is gonna affect everything
unless something else huge happens
between now and Novemberwhich could happen.
But I think another point that Republicans
need to take away from this
is we saw the Republican men
who run the Senate Judiciary Committee
having to import a womanto question Dr. Ford.
Republicans have to doa better job of one,
recruiting femalecandidates to run for office
and number two,
getting comfortabletalking about these issues.
These are husbands withdaughters and mothers.
They care about them at the core.
But they have to getcomfortable talking about
issues of sexual assaultand women's issues.
- Jennifer, Amber just hiton this theme about me too.
We're living in the me too era
and people are takingallegations more seriously
then ever before.
How did this me too moment play into
the Kavanaugh situation?
- Well I think it's meant everything.
I think you look no farther
than the way Anita Hill was treated,
the way Monica Lewinskywas treated by the nation.
Not just the media,
the nation treated them poorly.
But I think what we've seen
through the Kavanaugh hearings,
through these accusations is that me too
has become extremely muddy.
This is not about politics.
And if you're taking sides
when it comes to allegationsof sexual assault
and a person's right to defend themselves
then you're not on the side of justice.
And I think that me too is all about
women feeling comfortable coming forward,
sharing their experiences,
seeking justice for wrongsthat have been committed
and for men understanding that there are
certain ways you don't treat women,
and that's not okay.
But when politics enters this,
then I think that itjust becomes cheapened.
- Speaking of muddying the waters,
yesterday the President said,
let me make sure I have this quote right,
he said it's a very scarytime for young men in America.
And that was in responseto having a message
for men in America livingin the me too moment.
I think there is a little bit
of a muddled philosophy out there.
We live in a systemwhere our justice system
says you're innocent until proven guilty.
But in the me too movement there does seem
to be a little bit of a shift
and that's been some of the arguments
for Kavanaugh supporters who say
this man is having to prove his innocence
rather than he's innocentuntil proven guilty.
Do you think even though that may be
a legitimate point.
Was the President perhaps the right person
to make that point giventhe role that he plays
in our me too moment as well?
- No, I don't think so.
I mean I think it's fine for the President
of the United States to make that point.
But I think it's clear that this President
does not have credibilitywhen it comes to this issue,
which is unfortunate.
But I think in terms ofinnocent until proven guilty,
we've seen Republicanstreat this as a trial.
They brought in a prosecutor
and they're really pushing
this innocence until proven guilty.
Democrats are treatingthis as a job interview.
And so we're seeing they'reanticipating perhaps
this FBI investigationis not going to come up
with the kind of dirtthat they want it to.
And so they're sayingwell he was too feisty.
It was not a good job interview.
So Republicans and Democrats are treating
the hearings in completely different ways.
- Framing it completely different ways.
- Last night if you werewatching President Trump
at this political rally,
you saw him more or less mocking Dr. Ford.
Amber and then you saw the crowd respond
What did you make of that?
- Here's the thing there are two groups
watching this, right.
So you have your die hardsupporters of the President
who say that's exactly how I feel.
He's not mocking her.
He is saying exactly how I feel
and he's just repeating her testimony.
On the other side,
you can bet your bottomdollar that a picture
or a video of him saying that
is gonna be paired with Dr. Christine Ford
on campaign ads across this country
all the way until November.
Because on the other side of that
you have a record number of women.
180 Democratic womenwho won their primaries,
who are going toward the midterms,
and they're gonna say lookthis is our President,
this is how he feels about women.
So that right there can be a talking point
for either side.
It's just about who buysinto it more at this point.
- I will say oftenAmericans look at Washington
and say Washington is the problem.
Washington is a reflection of the nation.
And Amber's exactly right.
If you look at socialmedia which this President
tends to do from time to time.
- [John] He's very good at it.
- He's very good at it.
You see Republicans,conservatives over and over again
looking at the gaps inDr. Ford's testimony,
looking at the timing asto when she came forward.
And the President was reflecting that.
- Jennifer I wanted to talk to you,
there's a lot of conversation about
kind of what John was touching on.
You know having to prove your innocence
rather than the presumptionthat you are innocent
until you're proven guilty.
You are the mother of a son.
A lot of mothers have come out and said
they're concerned thata precedent could be set
that their son could be wrongly accused.
What are your thoughts on that?
- I think it's a huge fearthat mothers across the nation
are experiencing right now.
How do they talk to their sons about this?
And the challenge with all of this is that
different women accept andinterpret things differently.
And so an advance by someone who you like,
is not the same as an advanceby someone you don't like.
And so determining that as a young man
I'm sure can be challenging.
But these are serious conversations
that I think families are having.
But you know what, Jenna, it's good
that families are havingthese conversations.
Because for too long, let's be honest,
for way too long whetherit's in the workplace,
whether it's on dates,
whether it's while takinga run in your neighborhod,
women have been mistreated.
And the fact that we'reeven talking about this
even though politics ismuddying it, is a good thing.
- Last question and maybeboth Amber and Jennifer
you can weigh in on this.
You had just mentioned contrasting this
with the Anita Hill hearings.
I wanna know whether Judge Kavanaugh
is confirmed or not we'llfind out later this week,
if that vote does indeed happen.
But can Judge Kavanaugh'scareer survive this?
- Will his career survive, definitely.
Especially if he is confirmedto the Supreme Court,
he'll be just fine, right.
Clarence Thomas is sitting onthe Supreme Court right now.
Will there always be a cloudaround his career, definitely.
You look at the comments hemade during his testimony.
Was he fired up and angry for sure.
But he also made comments
about the Clintons paying him back.
Whether or not he was angry aside,
every time he rules,
someone's gonna point back to that.
And say look we told you thathe was a little bit partisan.
So his career will never be the same
as far as his legal career is concerned.
- It's my understandingthat Harvard University
has already canceled a class
that he was going to be teaching.
He will never live this down.
You never hear a storyabout Clarence Thomas
without a reference back to Anita Hill.
That was 27 years ago.
- Jennifer Wishon, Amber Strong,
thank you so much for joining us.
- Well although there is an open seat,
the Supreme Court beganhearing cases this week.
Two of the cases they took up focus
on private property rights in America.
Paul Strand reports from the court.
- Two of the first cases the Supreme Court
took up involve yourprivate property rights.
And could affect what happens
if government suddenly decides
it wants a piece of your land.
One case involves someprivate property in Louisiana
and the endangered Dusky Gopher Frog
which exists only in Mississippi.
The government's taking 1500 acres
of Edward Poitevent's timbergrowing land in Louisiana
because the endangeredfrog might have live there
many decades ago.
- This frog is critically endangered.
Just about 100 of them left.
And it used to be foundacross Louisiana, Alabama,
- [Paul] The PacificLegal Foundation lawyer
Mark Miller argues this land grab
will cost his client millions
on a gamble the frogcould maybe live there.
- He'd be looking at $34million in lost income.
But that doesn't matter to the government.
- It's over 1500 acres,
almost double the size ofCentral Park in New York.
- [Paul] Atkins says the landis perfect for the frogs.
Poitevant says it needs aton of money to prepare it.
- The ponds there are in an ideal state
and when they're not in the ponds
they live in stump holes.
And that land has the stump holes.
- And it will take millionsand millions and millions
of dollars to recreate that habitat.
- That's absolutely false.
- [Paul] Miller says thegovernment shouldn't be able
to just do this.
It'd be like ripping upManhattan skyscrapers
because deer used to wanderthere when it was forest.
- Let's declare Manhattanto be critical habitat
for that deer.
And then we'll just simplydo whatever we gotta do
to protect that endangereddeer in Manhattan.
- [Paul] The other caseinvolves Pennsylvanian
Rose Knick whose 90 acrefarm has been in her family
But Scott township has decidedsome stones on her land
may be gravestones.
And she has to fix up the area,
and leave it open to thepublic every day of the year
or be heavily fined
rather than compensated forthis taking of her land.
Attorney Christina Martin.
- And if she didn't do that
they would fine her $300 to $600 per day.
- Can you just imagine what it's like
to have people every day on your property?
- [Paul] Knick wants a federal court
to shoo the township away
but can't because of anold Supreme Court ruling
that says she must go through state courts
before going federal whenit comes to property rights.
Martin says property rightsshould be just as important
as your other Constitutional rights.
- If you have no way ofenforcing your rights,
then your rights are sort of meaningless.
It's just words on paper.
- [Paul] Paul Strand, CBNNews, The Supreme Court.
- Well the United Statesis pulling out of a treaty
we've had with Iran since the 1950s.
Secretary of State MikePompeo says the United States
is terminating a 1955 treaty with Iran.
That treaty regulatescommerce and diplomacy
with the foreign adversary.
CBN News National Security Correspondent
Erik Rosales has moreon the growing tensions
between the US and Iran.
- Secretary of State MikePompeo held nothing back
when he said the move to terminate
the 1955 Treaty of Amity was quote
39 years overdue.
- Iran has attempted to interfere
with the sovereign rightsof the United States
to take lawful actions necessary
to protect our national security.
And Iran is abusing the ICJ for political
and propaganda purposes.
- [Erik] Pompeo's announcement came after
the International Court of Justice
ordered the United Statesto lift some sanctions
affecting imports on humanitarian goods
and products to Iran.
Hours later, NationalSecurity Advisor John Bolton
announced the US is withdrawing from yet
another treaty with Iran
made before the United Nations Court.
A court which Bolton says is ineffective.
- It's closing doorsthat shouldn't be opened
to politicized abuse.
Which is what we'veconsistently seen in the ICJ.
- [Erik] Pompeo says the US will continue
to provide humanitarian assistance
to Iranian refugees.
But notes Iran continues touse its money on terrorism.
- The choices that are beingmade inside of Iran today
to use money to formentterror around the world
to launch ballistic missles
into airports throughout the Middle East,
to arm proxy militias in Iraq,and in Syria, and in Lebanon.
Those are dollars that
the Iranian leadership is squandering.
- It's a war of words right now.
It was a wise move.
The US should not let anythingimpact its sanctions power.
- [Erik] Iran policyexperts say this is just
another diplomatic fullcourt press by Iran
using the 1950s treatyto isolate the US today.
- If Iran upheld half of the things
that the previous government
prior to the revolution agreed to
with the US International Community
the country would be muchbetter off than it is today.
- I truly believe thatPompeo said it best.
He said that Iran is worriedabout the economic sanctions
that are gonna be coming against it.
So the Trump administrationplans to implement
those sanctions by November 4th.
And they also plan tobring those sanctions
against all oil sales as well.
- Right around the corner.
- That's right.
- Erik, Iran it considers this ruling
by the International Courtof Justice as a victory
and it kind of opens this toa Pandora's box in some ways.
- Yeah, you know the famouswords of Admiral Yamamoto
from Japan saying that they'vewoken the sleeping dog.
And yeah Iran has America'swide awake right now.
So Iran is really usingthe International Court
as more of a propaganda.
And that's what Bolton was trying to say.
It's like we're really going after that.
So we really need to takea closer look at that.
And then my sources are also saying that
we're gonna actually look atsome of the other agreements
that were made within that court as well.
So that could actuallyspell even more sanctions,
not just for Iran but formaybe other countries.
- Only about 30 seconds left.
First you had the Irandeal that we pulled out of
and now you have this.
It looks like Pompeo'sreally upping the pressure
on the alleged activity with Iran.
- Oh he is.
I mean we're tired of it.
And he already said that the United States
is not gonna sit by idle.
You know what we did waswe actually pulled out
our diplomats out of Iran out of Bahrain.
So we're gonna have to see exactly
what other type of pressurethat we can continue
to put on Iran.
But we are gonna go put in those sanctions
come November 4th.
- Erik Rosales, thank you as always.
- Thank you.
- [John] Coming up a sneakpeek at how a new surgery
saved the life of the Presidentof Liberty University.
- Jerry Falwell Jr sayshe's blessed to be alive.
- That's right Jenna.
In an exclusive interview
with CBN News Chief PoliticalAnalyst David Brody,
Falwell recalls the heart issue
that could've cost him his life.
- When I was at hisoffice and did the test
and it showed clearlythere was a large hole,
Tony Nobles the inventorof this process was there.
He texted Ben Carson.
Ben texted me right back and said,
Jerry this is one of those few times
when it's good to find outyou have a hole in your heart
because now you know what caused it.
Now we can fix it.
I called the President thenight before the procedure
11:30 at night he answers the phone.
And told him about it.
He called me a weeklater at 11:30 at night,
said Jerry I need you.
You gotta take care of yourself.
How'd it go?
And he said now Ben Carsontold you about this?
I said yeah.
He said then well thenI get the credit right?
I said yes, this is myreward for supporting you.
- Very nice.
What about the wave of the future here?
The future is now, Imean this is happening.
So where are we going with this procedure
in terms of what it means forpatients really worldwide?
Well it's a new technology.
We are the first center inthe US to use the NobleStitch
to close PFOs.
But in Europe it's alreadyspread like wildfire.
So it's gonna take time
but hopefully not too longto train other physicians
in the US and we expect this technology
to close holes in the heart with a stitch
rather than with a device
to really take over the market and help
a lot of patients out there.
- Not to make it an Oprah situation,
but when you got introducedon stage earlier.
There was a hug there.
I mean in other words,
this is a man thatreally came to your aid.
- He really did.
He and I are close to the same age.
We like the same kind of music.
- [David] 70s rock.
- 70s rock.
So we played that when Iwas on the operating table.
I was wide awake.
I could feel the devicecoming up through my chest
and I asked for a little more sedation.
But it was we really did hit it off
as did Tony Nobles and I.
And now my sister is gonna have,
she's a surgeon, been a surgeonin Richmond for 25 years.
She has the same condition.
She's gonna have the same procedure done.
- Well that 70s rock, butnot Stairway To Heaven
quite yet, right.
- Pink Floyd, Creedence Clearwater Revival
- Well David spoke with Falwell
and his doctor todayin Lynchburg, Virginia.
- And we will bring you the full story
right here tomorrow.
- You know they bonded over 70s rock.
For me it would be the Eagles.
- Me too.
- Hotel California.
- I love the Eagles, Desperado.
- Well that's gonna do itfor tonight's Faith Nation.
- Have a great evening.